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Ep. 32 - Does Bigfoot Have Rapture Technology? · Martyr's Row

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This week on Martyrs Row, did Bigfoot take Enoch?
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Rapture technology. Did Jesus already return?
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Rapture technology. Do we teleport to heaven
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or do we fly? Rapture technology. What? Rapture
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technology. Rapture technology? What? Three,
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two, one. Euphemia Among the blessed company
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of early martyrs was Euphemia of Chalcedon, a
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maiden trained from her youth in the fear of
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God, who, when commanded by rulers to sacrifice
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unto idols, boldly confessed Christ alone as
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Lord. Whereupon she was examined with flatteries,
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threatened with torments, and at length delivered
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to the wild beasts. Yet in all these trials stood
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constant and unshaken, so that the cruel purpose
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of her enemies became the crown of her victory,
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and being torn by the beasts, she ended her earthly
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course, not in defeat, but in triumph, sealing
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her faith with her blood and entering the everlasting
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rest prepared for them that overcome. What are
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you doing here? Happy New Year. Happy New Year,
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Paul. Happy New Year. So it's unusual that like
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as we started the podcast and as we've been going
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through it, you have no idea what I'm about to
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say. I'm trying to think. I've got a few ideas.
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I don't know where you're going. So we've there
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was a period of time where we were way ahead
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on recording. Yeah. This moment in time, we are
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not way ahead on recording. No. Did that sentence
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make sense? It doesn't matter. But the thing
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that I think is interesting about that is that
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this moment right now, this day today, is a couple
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days after the Jewish New Year. Oh, interesting.
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Rosh Hashanah. Yeah. And do you know that Rosh
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Hashanah is the Jewish New Year? I didn't know
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actually what it was. I just see it in my calendar.
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Yeah, so if you are an iPhone user? Yeah. Go
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back a couple of days and you'll see it. That's
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awesome. So this is just information on what
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Apple's trying to tell you. Do you know what
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Rosh Hashanah... Is there a deep conspiracy?
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Well, I mean, there could be one about Jewish
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people running everything. See, I wasn't playing...
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Why not state the obvious? That's true. That's
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what everyone's feeds look like these days. I'm
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not saying that that is what's happening. Yeah.
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But Rosh Hashanah. But Rosh Hashanah. Rosh Hashanah.
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Rosh Hashanah. Do you know what it means? New
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Year? I have no clue what it means. So Rosh Hashanah
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is the feast of trumpets. Oh. Which is the Jewish
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New Year. Okay. And actually according to the
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Mishnah, which is the foundational text of rabbinic
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Judaism. It's a written collection of oral tradition
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that interprets and applies the laws of the Hebrew
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Bible. So according to the Mishnah, this Rosh
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Hashanah is actually the anniversary of creation.
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Oh, fascinating. And it's also the time when
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God judges all creation, writing them in the
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Book of Life. or the book of death for the coming
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year. But Rosh Hashanah is the beginning of a
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10 -day period of reflection and repentance.
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So at the beginning of the Jewish New Year, they
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take 10 days and they reflect, which is interesting
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because typically that's like sitting Shiva.
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When somebody dies, they do the same thing. So
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Jewish people sit. in mourning for a 10 -day
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period. So, I'm pretty sure it's 10 days. It
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might be seven, but I think it's 10. But I think
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it's 10 because of this, specifically. Because
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Feast of Trumpets, that's where the priests would
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go and look for the sliver of the moon, right?
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And that's what would bring on the, that's how
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they would know? Oh, I don't know. Okay. Yeah,
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I don't know that part. I might be mixing up
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feasts, but I think it's the Feast of Trumpets.
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There's a lot of feasts. There are a lot of feasts.
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They like to feast. Same. But it's interesting
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because that means when this episode comes out,
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we will be in the Jewish New Year. That's cool.
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We'll also be in the 10 -day period. Oh. But
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the unusual thing about this one, which is not
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new, I guess, but there are several key people
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who are saying that... who have said that they've
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actually literally had visions of Jesus telling
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them that He will return on September 23rd or
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24th. Let's go! Which is the two -day period
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of the beginning of Rosh Hashanah. So if you're
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listening to this... Spoiler alert! So if you
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are hearing this, then you are, as we talked
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about on the last... You are a tribulation tank.
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We will wear your hats. And if we're far enough
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ahead on recording, tell us what we need to tell
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the... Tribulation takes oh Yeah, we'll stick
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around. Yeah, cuz we'll record ahead of time
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And then we'll schedule it or we'll just stick
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around. Oh, that's we'll be like on -the -ground
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reporters Well, I thought we were gonna get rapture
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Yeah, someone has to sit out for the tribulation,
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but I'm ready. That's it. Someone has to strip.
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Yeah. Yeah, it's fascinating Yeah, yeah, so like
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it's a good read. It's a good read Someone has
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to stick around for that. But the interesting
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thing is At the end of the ten days you have
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Yom Kippur. Yeah And on Yom Kippur, it's a day
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of fasting and it's like kind of purging everything,
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right? So there's a 10 day period of, you would
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call it like mourning and repentance. And that
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would be that process. And then on Yom Kippur,
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you fast and all of that stuff is done. And then
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you step into the new year. Okay. So the interesting
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thing about that is... If we celebrate the opposite
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In the American tradition. Yeah. Yeah ours is
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more like what if we stay up way too late Well,
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then I feel like our January 1 is Yom Kippur.
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Oh, yeah So it's like that gap between Christmas
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and New Year's is a little bit of our Rosh Hashanah.
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Yeah, but it's like everybody's like I regret
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everything about this last year. Yeah January
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1st for most people like Yeah, yeah, but anyway
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But the interesting thing is so yeah, there's
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been there's been past there's been at least
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a pastor who has said that they've had I'm not
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gonna name them because if you know, you know,
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if you don't look it up It's if you want it's
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honestly not that interesting because again there
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for years and years and years and decades and
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centuries people have been like Jesus is coming
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back tomorrow. He told me cool And then it's
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like well, he told all of us in the Bible that
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no one knows the day or the hour So like he actually
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told us that you're wrong, but I can know the
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month or maybe the minute I Don't know. He said
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twinkle of an eye. I know the twinkle, but whose
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eye Which I He's a glass. I he is the eye. Oh,
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no the apple We're the apple Appial I don't know
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but I just think that's interesting like Feast
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of Trumpets because There is a parallel to this
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hmm if we look as Christians. Yes, not as Jewish
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people. Yeah, which we are not because we are
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not ancient non -jews. We are Gentiles. Yeah.
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Yeah, I like it the way Non -ancient non -jews.
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Yeah for a minute. I thought you said non -asian
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Oh, well we're not Asian either. We're non -Asian,
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non -Asian, non -Jews. That blurs together so
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much. But looking ahead in Revelation, you look
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at Revelation 2 and verse 8 to the church in
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Smyrna, and I'll jump past the fact that it was
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an angel to the church in Smyrna, which is super
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interesting. We've talked about that before.
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But in verse 9 it says, I know your tribulation
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and your poverty, but you are rich and the slander
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of those who say that they are Jews and are not,
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but are a synagogue of Satan. Do not fear what
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you are about to suffer. Behold, the devil is
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about to throw some of you into prison that you
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may be tested and for 10 days you will have tribulation.
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Be faithful until death. And I will give you
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the crown of life. He who has an ear, let him
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hear what the Spirit says to the churches. The
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one who conquers will not be hurt by the second
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death." Hmm. So, interesting eschatology. Yeah.
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But also interesting parallel here, because as
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we know, the Bible references itself over and
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over again. Yes. It's unique right here that
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there's a 10 -day period of tribulation. That's
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fascinating. Which would coincide with the, especially
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when it's talking about the slander of those
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who say that they are Jews and are not, but are
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a synagogue of Satan. Yeah. And then being, and
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then referencing the 10 days of Rosh Hashanah,
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which is a tribulation time. And at the end of
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the tribulation time, if you last through death,
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Then at the tenth day you will be restored and
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I will give you the crown of life Yeah, which
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they believe after Yom Kippur. It's it's your
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your How do they how did they say it? It's a
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the book of life or the book of death that yeah
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The time it's the time when God judges all creatures
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writing them in the book of life or the book
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of death So it's this parallel of that's very
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fast if you go through this ten days of tribulation
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and you get to the other side, then in the second
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death, you will receive a crown of life, which
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is a parallel to being written in the book of
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life. Yeah, that's cool. So it's kinda cool.
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That's pretty cool. Because in Revelation, it's
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referencing this concept that we see in Leviticus.
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So yeah, so... in our conversations about end
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times and rapture theology and Israel and all
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of this stuff, you get this moment like this
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week where we're in this 10 day period and it's
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Rosh Hashanah and it's a time of tribulation.
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That's the reason why I think this pastor has
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talked about this vision, because it makes the
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most sense when it comes to eschatology that
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the rapture If the church is raptured, taken
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up before the tribulation, that it would happen
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at Rosh Hashanah. That's interesting. And then
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10 days later, as the 10 day process of, if you
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read it this way, that judgment would happen
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for 10 days, a time of tribulation, and then
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at the end of that. On Yom Kippur. On Yom Kippur,
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that everything would be. restored in the second
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death. That's interesting. Yeah, it's kind of
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interesting. Yeah, because it does paint that
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picture of either life or death. It's like, well,
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that sounds like judgment. It does. Yeah. Yeah.
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So you get this parallel here in Revelation to
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Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur. But Rosh Hashanah
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is not like Rosh Hashanah is actually second
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temple language as far as how they are describing
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it. or where that originates, because originally
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the holiday's roots go back to the Torah in Leviticus
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23 and then in Numbers 29. God commands Israel
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to observe a sacred day on the first day of the
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seventh month. It is called a day of rest, a
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sacred assembly commemorating with trumpet blasts,
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the shofar. So the Torah does not call it Rosh
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Hashanah, the head of the year, but refers to
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it as Yom Terah, day of blowing. Trumpets blast
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So the the Torah actually refers to it as the
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day of trumpets. Yeah The day of the trumpet
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blast. Yeah, which that's what we see like, I
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mean we need to come later clouds Yeah, the trumpet
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blasts It's the feast of trumpets. Yeah, so like
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there is Parallel yeah, that's fascinating, but
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it doesn't necessarily mean that's literally
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when it's gonna happen, right but what it's referencing
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is the beginning of tribulation, the beginning
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of judgment that will result in if you persevere
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to the end, to the second death, then on Yom
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Kippur, or once judgment is complete, then your
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name will either be written in the book of life
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or in the book of death. Yeah, and it sounds
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kind of like the way you're describing it is
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this figurative way of saying that if you run
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the race with endurance. Yes. Yeah, which is
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Paul's language. It's Paul's language, yeah.
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Paul's language. This Paul. But yeah, isn't that
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interesting? That's very interesting. So happy
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Rosh Hashanah. Hey. Actually. No, no, no. Sad
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Rosh Hashanah. Yeah. Good luck at Yom Kippur,
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by the way. Good luck. Good luck to you guys.
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Hope that you are crowned. Hey, my name means
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crowned one. Oh, that's right. I win already.
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Your face is shining. Thanks. Three, two, one.
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Out in the woods where the tall trees grow Shadow
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in the night but nobody knows Footprints heavy
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but the stories untold Chasing down the mystery
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the legend unfolds Where the faithful go Heaven
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writes the names only heaven knows New year rise
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and let the trumpet sound Mercy and forgiveness
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falling all around Sweet like honey, let the
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blessings flow Pages turning in the book, yeah
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the Spirit knows On martyrs row where the faithful
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go faithful go heaven writes the names only So
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far in the air Stories and the sacred you'll
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find it all here Bigfoot in the forest so far
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in the air Stories and the sacred you'll find
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it all here on Martyrs Row Where the faithful
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go yeah the faithful go Heaven writes the names
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only have Only heaven knows On martyr's row Through
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the highs and lows Life begins again When the
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trumpet blows When the trumpet blows The forest
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was quiet that morning. The fresh snow covered
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the ground, and the air was dry as Daniel crouched
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low, his breath fogging in the icy air, eyes
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fixed on the line of tracks disrupted the blanket
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of white. Each print was enormous, human -like,
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but wider and deeper, and a remnant of something,
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weighing far beyond the average human, had walked
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this way just minutes ago. His boots crunched
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softly as he followed, step by careful step,
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into the deeper woods. The smell of pine and
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frozen earth filled his nostrils. A faint wind
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stirred the branches, dropping clumps of snow
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like muffled drumbeats. The anticipation of what
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he might discover raced through his mind. Then
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the tracks just stopped. No scatter of broken
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branches, no drag marks, no disturbed snow, no
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running start, just one last massive print. And
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then nothing. It felt wrong, unnatural, as though
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the snow itself had decided to erase what had
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been there a moment ago. Daniel turned in a slow
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circle, scanning the clearing, heart beating
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faster in his chest. If it had climbed a tree,
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he'd see claw marks. If it had jumped, there'd
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be an impact, a slide, something. But there was
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only the stillness of the woods, the faint whistle
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of wind, and the silence that suddenly felt too
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heavy. It was as though something had been here,
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and then, in the blink of an eye, had been erased
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from the world. Rain pattered steadily on the
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forest floor, soaking into the ferns and fallen
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needles. Paul Friedman studied his camcorder,
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breath misting in the cold Washington air. There,
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movement. A hulking shape emerged from behind
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a cluster of redwoods, seven, maybe eight feet
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tall, broad with dark hair plastered to its body
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by the drizzle. It moved slowly, deliberately,
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as if unafraid. The lens shook as Paul zoomed
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in. The creature turned slightly, not quite facing
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him, but enough that Paul caught a glimpse of
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its massive chest, its swinging arms. Then it
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took two more steps and slipped behind the trunk
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of a giant redwood. Paul held his breath, waiting,
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but there was nothing. Confused, He edged closer,
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rain dripping off the bill of his cap. With each
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step, he inched closer to the tree. Every heartbeat
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pounded louder in his chest. What was hidden
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behind the tree? He was too close now to turn
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back. In one swift motion, he swung the camera
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around the trunk. Nothing. The forest seemed
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to hold its breath. No cracking branches. No
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running footsteps. No sound at all but the steady
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whisper of rain. The giant was gone, as if the
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redwood itself had swallowed it whole. The desert
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road ahead was empty, a silver ribbon under the
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fading light of dusk. John Bohannon gripped the
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wheel, driving slow as he passed the edge of
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the tree line near Three Rivers Campground in
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New Mexico. That's when he saw it. A figure,
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tall, thick -shouldered, walking upright across
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the road, about 100 feet ahead. It looked human,
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but much too large and far too hairy. A coppery
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sheen reflected in his headlights off the figure.
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John pressed his foot onto the brake, his pulse
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pounded. The creature turned slightly, just enough
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that he could make out his profile. A flat nose,
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deep brow, something inhuman. yet eerily familiar.
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Then, mid -step, it paused and vanished. Not
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behind a tree, not into the brush. It was simply
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gone. One moment there, solid as the road itself.
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The next, empty space. John now slammed the brakes,
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tires spitting gravel. He leapt out of the truck,
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air electric in his lungs. There was no sound
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but the engine cooling, and a lonely coyote cry
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somewhere off in the desert. The air smelled
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of dust and ozone. The road was empty, too empty.
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He swore the air shimmered where the creature
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had been, as though the heat was bending light.
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And then even that faded. Whatever it was had
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stepped somewhere he couldn't follow. Stephen?
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Does Bigfoot have Rapture technology? Huh? Three,
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two, one. Hey, Stephen. Hey, Paul. We had some
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stories today. I feel like you just asked me
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something. Yeah, I actually want to ask you again.
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OK. Just because I feel like it didn't really
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click. Yeah, I feel like for a moment my memory
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was erased. What? What? Could you refresh my
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memory on what your question was? Everyone's
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like, we just heard it. I need my memory refreshed.
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It's refreshed. It's been wiped. Does Bigfoot?
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Okay. Know him? The big hairy guy. You've met
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him. The guy with my hat? Actually, yes. That's
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him. Whoops. Whoopsies. It's almost like you
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knew. That's kind of wild, actually. Does Bigfoot,
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your friend, my guy, have Rapture technology?
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Oh, interesting. Yeah, and by that, it's like,
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well, according to Kirk Hammer, a lot of naked
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people in this guy, can he do that? Are you asking
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me if he leaves his clothes folded everywhere?
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And then just starts flying around the sky? Yeah.
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I mean, probably. I mean, he's not known for
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wearing clothes. Yeah. Also, he may not be the
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correct pronoun for him. Or her. Or her. Or it.
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True. The thing. The thing. The big foot. The
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great thing. How would you like if you just showed
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up somewhere and someone's like, we actually
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thought you were fake. And we called you Bigfoot,
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because your foot is huge. To be completely honest
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with you, I'd be like, so you're saying I'm a
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legend? Yeah. I think it'd be a great way to
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be. People actually wear costumes of you, pretending
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to be you. Also, a weird thing to just say right
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away. Bigfoot walks up and you go wait, you're
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not gonna believe this Like like no, how do you
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know? Just real quick, let me just tell you a
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story me in a second, but let me tell you he's
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like guys I know I was there. I know all the
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stories rapture technology Check it out. Don't
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look up rapture technology is interesting Because
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actually, the most interesting thing about it
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to me right away is that the rapture, what is
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happening in the rapture, would be considered
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technology. Yes. I like the proposition. It's
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kind of a funny question. Yeah, if you're wondering
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at this point in the episode, what in the world
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are they doing? This is not intentionally a Bible
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study episode. No. We are using way less scripture
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in this episode, unless Paul all of a sudden
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just starts quoting scripture. If he does, disclaimer,
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I don't know what's coming. I don't either. I
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don't know who we blame that on. I think like
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this one is more for me is more of like, let's
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ask the weird philosophical question. Yeah. Because
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it's like, I don't think it's like we can't be
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like, oh, yes, let's just turn to, you know,
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revelation. Right. There it is. Yeah. But it's
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kind of like, all right, let's follow that through.
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You mean there Bigfoot is? It's like, oh, that's
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Bigfoot. Yeah, there he is. And he's like, oh,
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yeah. He's got this technology. Is Bigfoot the
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whore of Babylon? Three, two. That's a different
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episode. I don't even know if we can do that
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in this episode. That's a mark throughout the
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park. after dark patreon .com If enough people
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want to support to hear that we will make But
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also I've got more questions Yeah, we'll make
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a patreon invite you on and then ask you the
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question and why did you pay for this? Yeah,
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exactly No, I think that that's an interesting
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concept. But yeah, it's like the idea that what
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is happening in the rapture what suppose the
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the Kurt Cameron formula for rapture. Yeah. That
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it would be a technology. Yeah. But it is the
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discussion around the idea that like one of the
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things we talk about all the time is like looking
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at Ephesians six and we don't wrestle with flesh
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and blood but powers and principalities of the
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air. It's that idea that like hey there are other
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there are different types of beings. You go like
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are there aliens in the Bible? Well if an alien
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is anything not born on the earth then yeah that's
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like That's kind of a dumb question. That's kind
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of what heaven's occupied by. Yeah. It's like,
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well, yeah, they're all over the place. Yeah.
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And then they invade and it's, it's now are,
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you know, it's the whole thing of like, are there,
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you know, actual like little green ET guys or
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I guess he was brown or gray. Yeah. Well, that's
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a whole different thing. That is something scary
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that I don't like to think about. ET was brown.
28:31
He had a weird finger. ET was brown. Um, and
28:35
like Reese's nevermind. We're not going to go
28:37
back to that. But. Like that concept and digging
28:42
into that space because there are things that
28:44
like Christians, non -Christians, Jew, Gentile,
28:48
like all of the above have had experiences with
28:52
things like a Bigfoot. Or people are at least
28:56
open to the idea that like, oh yeah, there's
28:59
this creature. We don't know if it's a man dressed
29:02
like a bear, weird type of bear. There's an animal.
29:06
There's all these different things and it's...
29:08
it's probably the closest interaction we have
29:12
to like, this is something we don't know about,
29:14
that people really seem convinced exists. So
29:18
then are there other beings? Which then would
29:21
bring me to a question that we're not asking,
29:23
but would be interesting would be, would Bigfoot
29:26
be an alien? Like if Bigfoot was from the dust
29:30
of the earth, then technically he's some type
29:34
of like offshoot of humanity. then would be a
29:38
potential abomination. Right. Which would go
29:42
into chimeric creatures. Yeah. Which we haven't
29:44
talked about at all. We haven't talked about
29:45
it. Word of the day. In the blending of like
29:49
humans, spiritual beings, animals. Yeah. Yeah.
29:55
Which is a bizarre can of worms. It is. But yeah,
29:59
I think like tying it into this, it's like the
30:02
question is like, okay, so There are all of these
30:07
stories that people tell right some of them are
30:11
would be in the category of like these are verified
30:13
stories Yeah, other ones like this person probably
30:15
made this up sure But so amongst the verified
30:19
stories quote -unquote. Yeah is verifying There's
30:24
a lot of them that talk about Bigfoot as some
30:26
of the stories we read today It's like that he
30:28
just like vanishes into thin air and I think
30:31
the most obvious one, the most compelling one
30:33
is the final one, the third one, where it's like,
30:36
oh, the guy sees him and then he's not there
30:38
anymore. And it's like, oh, that's interesting.
30:42
And one case, it's like, I think we're quick
30:45
to be like, okay, well, that's fake. And it's
30:47
like, okay, maybe. But also, what was just described
30:50
there is how we talk about the rapture. Yeah,
30:54
actually, good point. You know what I mean? So
30:55
it's like, wait, why are we so quick to dismiss?
30:57
But then we're like, yeah, the rapture's real
30:59
though. It's like, wait, but that's the same
31:00
thing. Yeah, and as part of the foundation. Not
31:02
quite the same thing, but. But maybe. But as
31:06
part of the foundation of this conversation.
31:08
If that is the same thing we got left behind.
31:11
Oh, you're saying Bigfoot is the only thing that
31:13
got raptured? It got raptured. So Bigfoot is
31:15
the only true Christian. That's hilarious. That
31:18
would actually be kind of a - Would that mean
31:20
that Bigfoot is the entirety of the church? Dang,
31:24
that's why his foot's so big. Of course he's
31:26
gonna crush the, he's gonna crush the servant's
31:29
head with his big stompers. Or he's only the
31:31
foot of the body. Oh no. You didn't need that,
31:35
right? Here's the, if you're just listening.
31:40
research device was dropped. We don't use it
31:45
anyway. Yeah, that doesn't help you if you're
31:47
only listening. But I think a foundational piece
31:52
is the idea that we actually mention all the
31:54
time, which is there's intellect and there's
31:57
conversations. There's even when you're doing
32:00
study versus meditation in the Bible. Yeah. There
32:05
is the study element of it is the heady piece.
32:08
But then we all like pretty much every person
32:12
that is a Christian also has this component of
32:16
experience. That is something that not even their
32:18
intellect can deny them. They would have to lie
32:20
to themselves in their own mind. We would have
32:23
to lie to ourselves in our own mind to discredit
32:26
an experience that we had. The same is true in
32:29
these experiences. Now, it could be pushed back
32:32
and especially in a material space. in a material
32:36
argument that, well, it's just your mind making
32:39
things up. And then we go, all right, well, do
32:41
we have evidence for that? Yeah, we actually
32:43
kind of do. Unless we don't. Unless the mind
32:48
making things up of what we see is actually a
32:51
glimpse into spiritual spaces, which we don't
32:53
have proof that it's not. So if someone goes,
32:56
well, you're just hallucinating. What if hallucination
32:58
is actually a glimpse into the spiritual space
33:01
that your eyes blur into another? You know what
33:05
I mean? Or like, the same thing would be true
33:08
of like people that say they've seen, not that
33:12
they had an interaction with a person that they
33:14
believed later was an angel, but instead, which
33:17
would be more like biblical, but instead that
33:21
they saw some type of aberration or some type
33:26
of non -material, like hallucinate, like, see
33:33
-through being that helped like a car not flip
33:37
over or something like that. And like that is
33:41
like a bit of a glimpse into the space or it's
33:43
a movement from one space to the other into the
33:46
material space in order to have material impact.
33:51
Like to stop a car from flipping. I think there's
33:55
even like there's even a side where it's like
33:56
okay what people experience and it's like actually
34:00
I just heard the story recently from someone
34:04
where they're living now in their parents' old
34:07
house. Is this everyone? No, it's just one person.
34:13
Not every single person. Everyone's living in
34:15
their old parents' house. Everyone under the
34:17
age of 30? Well, that's it. Different podcasts.
34:23
Your parents live in a different state. Yeah,
34:25
they do. You're also not under the age of 30.
34:27
That's sorry to out you like that. Do you guys
34:29
believe? We thought you're 40. What? So the story
34:37
that you're not over it either no, we're not
34:39
under it. No, I'm writing it with the beginning
34:43
stages I'm right in the middle of it. Yeah, I'm
34:46
not you are I'm way past it. Well, no, you're
34:50
You're still like the middle of the 30s Yeah,
34:53
I meant the actual age 30. Oh, yeah, I am past
34:57
that Anyway, I digress So, um one person lives
35:07
in their mom's basement Did you forget that's
35:10
what we were talking about? That's not what I
35:12
was talking about, but I'm gonna restate that
35:15
cuz that's what you took away from it I heard
35:19
the story. Okay And so she is now living, her
35:24
parents have died, so she's living in her parents'
35:26
house. In their old house. Way different. Yeah,
35:29
well, it was their house until they no longer
35:32
needed a home. Okay. And now it's her home. Am
35:34
I gonna have a hard time sleeping tonight after
35:35
this story? I hope not. Okay. Because it's like
35:37
nothing bad happens. Okay. Well, so she would
35:41
tell me that her dad... regularly okay um because
35:44
i asked i was like i'm already getting scared
35:46
oh i was like uh because she told me she told
35:49
me what what he would see and i was like did
35:51
this happen like once or twice she's like oh
35:53
it happened so often but he actually told me
35:55
i'm gonna stop telling you because it happened
35:58
so much. Whoa. There's no point in me continuing
36:00
to tell you this. Okay. Where he would wake up
36:03
in the middle of the night, because he would
36:04
be woken up. Still getting scared, Paul. By people
36:06
walking through, at the foot of his bed, walking
36:09
through his room. Yeah, I don't feel better.
36:11
Yeah, okay. And he's like, they wouldn't do anything.
36:14
He's like, sometimes they'd like look over and
36:15
wave. Weird. I was like, what? And like, they
36:19
wouldn't say anything. Did he do anything? Was
36:21
his house the haunted mansion? At Disney? Okay,
36:24
now that's starting to tie some things in for
36:27
me. Is she just a Disney employee? Is that what
36:30
we're talking about? No, she lives in Barton.
36:33
Oh, okay. Uh -oh. Thomas did say she was wearing
36:38
a Disney shirt, so I can no longer verify this.
36:43
That's a good point. We have a friend in the
36:48
studio, so we're going to hear them and we're
36:50
not going to discourage them from interjecting
36:52
because we want to hear it. And he'll probably
36:54
correct us. But we're going to not reveal who
36:57
it is. Just for fun. Oh, Rapture Technology.
37:06
I like that. Well, so let's get there. Let's
37:08
get there. What is it? What are magnets? Actually,
37:13
good point. Because what does that even mean?
37:17
Well, so it's kind of like the question... Wait,
37:19
wait. So did something happen with the girl?
37:22
Oh, so... Did she experience this? She hasn't
37:24
experienced it personally. Something her dad
37:26
saw. Did she get rid of her parents' furniture?
37:27
Does she sleep now in that bed? It's new furniture.
37:31
Yeah, I would do that. Yeah. Also, she said there
37:33
was like this weird... She called it a voodoo
37:36
doll, but it was just like a creepy doll that
37:38
lived in the closet. And she's like, yeah, I
37:40
got rid of that thing. I was like, good. That
37:42
sounds terrifying. Also like anything like invite
37:47
a priest over. Yeah. Like any of that stuff.
37:50
Yeah. And I'm working in this house. I'm like,
37:51
I'm praying like crazy because this is the room
37:52
I'm working in. Oh, OK. Yeah. And that's when
37:55
she decided to tell me. Yeah. I was like, oh,
37:57
thanks for that. Isn't that like client, patient
38:00
privilege? You shouldn't talk about that. Am
38:04
I going to hit with HIPAA? Maybe. Well, since
38:07
we're here, I might as well reveal the - Did
38:08
you take a painting oath? A painter never tells.
38:12
Bill, probably add that to my contract now. That's
38:16
awesome. Can you sign an NDA? That's kind of
38:18
a weird, that's a weird concept. Yeah, it's kind
38:20
of strange. But it's like, it's one of those
38:22
where you can hear the story - So you're gonna
38:24
go to your house at night and just walk - Bastard,
38:26
but no Actually, it's not a bad idea. I swear
38:30
it is a glowing white. No, no, it's a bad idea
38:32
It is bad idea and also cuz I won't be able to
38:34
get through the walls. Oh, you could be sleeping
38:36
with I just walked into the wall Look away This
38:43
isn't glamorous This is hard work, okay, just
38:48
ignore me Weird. But it's one of those where
38:53
you can hear the story and be like, huh, he's
38:56
crazy. Yeah. But it's like, wait, but he... No,
38:59
she's crazy. Well, she told me the story. She
39:01
didn't see it. You're talking about he, the person...
39:03
The person who witnessed it. Gotcha. The who
39:05
witnessed the people walking through. Her dad.
39:06
Yeah, her dad. Gotcha. Yeah. Painter patient
39:11
privilege. Painter patient privilege. That's
39:14
PPP. Yeah. That's our motto. Yeah, I like it.
39:19
But it's like you look at it. You could look
39:21
at it and say like, oh well, you know, he's crazy.
39:23
That's not real. True. It's like, except for
39:25
he experiences regularly. All the time. Yeah.
39:29
And it's like, there's nothing in that to tell
39:30
me he would have any reason to make this up.
39:33
Did he express fear? No. Okay. That's kind of
39:36
nice. Which is, yeah, which is nice. But I feel
39:38
like with stories like that, I feel like fear
39:41
is tangible or it's not. Yeah, so it's like it
39:44
becomes personified in a certain way where like
39:47
in those instances If you wake up and see something
39:50
that is otherworldly. Yeah, you typically it's
39:54
either like there's a blanket that There's just
39:57
like fear in the room. Yes, or there's not or
39:59
there's just like a piece there for some reason
40:01
Yeah, so like he would just experience because
40:04
I know he would get mad at them because he's
40:06
like I keep waking me up Like what are they noise?
40:11
That you just hear him walking But actual noise
40:14
of like footsteps. Yeah. But maybe his fear personified
40:19
his anger. I don't know. True. But it's so...
40:24
Or he just had a lot of spiritual interactions
40:26
and it wasn't... He's just kind of numb to it
40:28
now. They're like, we're just here, he's there.
40:31
Yeah. Like maybe he was like a seer. Which is
40:35
a whole other discussion. Yeah, that's fair.
40:37
But I guess, so the reason I bring that up, in
40:41
relation to everything we're talking about, is,
40:44
okay, so there's personal experiences, and then
40:48
there's how we interpret the world or how we
40:52
interpret scripture. Sure. And so the question
40:54
is kind of like, all right, can these things
40:56
kind of be harmonized or no? Right. Or it's like,
40:59
okay, where's the error in some ways? It's like,
41:02
okay, so we're going to discount it. That means
41:04
that this man just is crazy. Right. Or if we
41:10
can't discount it, What's happening? Yeah, or
41:13
at the very least. It's a modern myth. Yeah It's
41:17
supernatural mixed in with history. Yeah for
41:19
sure. So like it's hit, but it's his experience
41:22
Yeah, so yeah, I don't know that's weird and
41:25
so and in some ways I'll tell this story and
41:28
then we can get back to rapture. I kind of go
41:30
back into rapture technology what that even is.
41:32
Yeah men in black is I Wouldn't when it comes
41:36
to I guess I always think of Galileo Okay, often
41:39
think of Galileo. Often. He's my Roman Empire.
41:42
I understand. Yeah, he's a big nerd with a telescope.
41:45
That's a good coffee mug. Maybe not a shirt.
41:47
Galileo. Galileo is my Roman Empire. With a little
41:52
heart on it, though. It's like a valentine. High
41:55
heart, Galileo. Maybe you'll make that for yourself.
42:03
Yeah, a little treat. but when we look at like
42:07
the like a large heresy kiss sorry keep going
42:11
with Galileo on it yeah no no just like on the
42:14
mug for some reason because it won't fit inside
42:15
it's too big but you know i got nothing with
42:20
that so you often think of Galileo i do at least
42:23
in these situations okay because it's like okay
42:25
so with his story it's like so he's looking through
42:28
this telescope he's a nerd he's got nothing better
42:30
to do okay and he's like wait a second Everyone's
42:34
saying that everything revolves around the earth.
42:36
But from my telescope, it looks like the not
42:40
that. It looks like the not that. That's not
42:45
what I'm seeing. And so he goes to everyone and
42:48
says, hey, I think we messed up. True. And then
42:51
so the scientific community is like, no, you're
42:54
wrong. We're right. Right. And then the church
42:56
goes, yeah, you're wrong. And this Bible verse
43:00
says that you're wrong. Yeah. And so he's like,
43:03
yeah, but this is what I'm seeing with my two
43:06
eyes. Yeah, I'm experiencing this. Yeah. So it's
43:08
kind of that weird question of like, okay, is
43:11
what he's saying contrary to scripture or are
43:15
we misinterpreting scripture? Sure. Turns out
43:18
in that case we were misinterpreting scripture.
43:20
But it also is like the perfect allegory for
43:24
exactly what's happening now and what has always
43:27
happened. Yes. Which is... the majority believe
43:31
a certain thing and have for a while, and then
43:33
someone comes in and goes, I don't think it's
43:36
the way we think it is. And they're all like,
43:38
you're crazy, don't listen to this guy. Blacklist
43:42
him, take his funding, all that stuff. And you're
43:45
like, has this happened before? You ever heard
43:48
of a guy named Galileo? You know, Galileo Galilei.
43:51
And also everyone knows about Galileo. Yes. So
43:54
it's like, it's weird that like the scientific
43:56
community doesn't stop for a minute and go, hmm,
43:58
is this a Galileo situation? Are we repeating
44:00
history? Yeah. Have we not learned this lesson
44:03
yet? The answer is probably yes. Probably yes.
44:06
But so, I guess to make the question a little
44:08
more tangible, it's like, what do I mean when
44:09
I say rapture technology? Yeah, do that. Because
44:11
it's also kind of like assuming something when
44:14
you even ask the question. Sure. that it is a
44:16
technology. Right. And so it's like, well, when
44:19
we talk about the rapture, it's a thing that
44:22
happens, but it's for a specific purpose. Right.
44:25
It's the Lord calling people up. Yeah, yeah,
44:28
yeah. And so it's like that part of it. But it's
44:31
like, OK, but we talked about this in the last
44:32
episode. But what does that look like? I see
44:35
what you're saying. Because in the... What's
44:38
the... the medium that he chooses to do that,
44:41
the avenue. And it's that thing, like a technological
44:45
thing. Yeah, which kind of jumps into the discussion
44:48
of the two angels that came to meet with Lot.
44:53
Yeah. Right? In Sodom. Yes. And Gomorrah? No,
44:57
Sodom. I think it's just Sodom. They come to
44:59
meet with Lot, and it's like, well, they walk
45:01
up to his house. Yes. It doesn't tell us where
45:04
they come from, but... We don't necessarily need
45:08
to know where they come from, right? In the same
45:10
way that like when we discussed Israel and Jacob
45:15
becoming Israel and he wrestled with the angel,
45:17
the Lord. It's like he goes away from everybody
45:20
and then he wrestles with a man. You're like,
45:21
well, where did the man come from? You just showed
45:22
up. You just said he left everybody. You, me,
45:25
outside. Yeah. He just like, it literally says,
45:29
and then he leaves everybody behind. Next verse,
45:31
he's wrestling with a man. What happened? Where
45:34
is he? Where'd this guy come from? And then the
45:36
same thing here, we don't necessarily need to
45:39
know why the two men who are angels come up and
45:43
walk. But the discussion is like, well, they
45:46
are clearly material. They're clearly matter
45:49
standing in front of them. And they appear as
45:54
men, but they're not necessarily, they're not
45:58
embodying just like... It's not like one guy,
46:03
like shepherds in the field and all of a sudden
46:04
they're like, I'm an angel now. I'm an angel.
46:08
And then their soul just for some reason just
46:10
like on the ground. Just hangs out for a minute.
46:12
Kind of like folded clothes for the rapture.
46:14
I need your vehicle for police business real
46:16
quick. The angel takes the soul out and folds
46:19
it up and puts it on the ground. We'll be back
46:21
for you later. Fold it up neatly. That's where
46:27
Kurt Cameron got it from, I assume. But it's
46:30
that idea that there are these material break
46:34
-in spaces, these idea with the angels, and you
46:36
kind of go like, all right, well, did they just
46:39
appear? Did they come through a portal? Did the
46:42
space get thin and they walk through? Did they
46:45
take on another appearance? Or did they come
46:49
from the second heaven on a spacecraft? Yeah.
46:54
I don't know. It doesn't tell us. No, it doesn't.
46:57
But it also leaves all of that up to being an
47:00
option. Yeah. And it's not insane to think one
47:04
is crazier than the other. Yeah. Because these
47:06
are material beings that are standing in front
47:08
of Lot. Yeah. And it's like, well, why is it
47:12
crazy that they rode in on a spaceship? Because
47:14
it takes longer? I don't... How do you know it
47:18
takes longer? Well, I mean, even... jumping into
47:20
the idea, it's like, okay, well, we're like other
47:22
places in scripture, we see these people that
47:24
just kind of are here and then aren't here. Yeah.
47:27
I mean, one of them is like, the biggest thing
47:29
is the rapture, where it's like in the New Testament,
47:32
it says in the twinkling of an eye, it's like,
47:34
okay, so you're here, then you're not here. Yeah.
47:36
So it's like, okay, so you just vanished. Yeah.
47:39
And it's like, well, we see with Elijah, he's
47:42
carried up in a chariot of fire and through the
47:44
clouds. Or is it the twinkling of an eye? one
47:50
singular eye. Who's eye? Nevermind, let's not
47:52
get into that. Who's eye? Of one specific eye.
47:58
Or a third. His name is third. No, no, no, no,
48:03
no, no. Close that sucker. Yeah, we'll close
48:05
that. We'll leave that behind. Close that one
48:06
up. But that idea of like, all right, well, we
48:09
see these angels, they appear, they're material.
48:11
We have other instances where beings show up.
48:14
I mean, just like the angel appearing to Mary.
48:17
Yeah. and letting her know that she's gonna,
48:19
well, she's terrified and she's afraid. So this...
48:23
I would be too if someone just showed up in my
48:24
room. Well, but that's the thing is like, we
48:26
don't necessarily know if it was like, there's
48:28
this, you know, seven, eight foot, 10 foot, like
48:32
beautiful man just standing there all the sudden.
48:35
You know what I mean? It's like, beautiful guy.
48:39
The most beautiful guy in the whole galaxy. Wow,
48:41
look at you. Look at you. You're so tall. Beautiful.
48:46
But we don't know necessarily what that looked
48:48
like, but we do know the immediate appearance.
48:51
And we have witness of that in Jesus' resurrected
48:54
body, where he walks through a wall and material
48:57
changes and moves. So maybe that's what's happening.
49:00
But to me, that's what I think of when you start
49:03
talking about rapture technology, is there's
49:06
speculation on is there material moving material,
49:11
or is it... displacement of material that shifts
49:15
in and out of what we understand as the five
49:19
sense material space. So in that way it's like,
49:22
the same thing with like, Philip, supposedly.
49:26
I was just gonna bring that up in X. Yeah, so
49:28
like him supposedly transporting. Well it's like,
49:30
it's a good, it makes more sense that potentially
49:34
as he's going. there's a portal that opens and
49:38
then he appears on the other side. Right. It's
49:40
like the the folding of space -time or that type
49:43
of that to use like scientific language in that
49:46
way. Yeah and I think I think the one thing that's
49:48
important to say here too is because some people
49:50
are like well this is God and God can just do
49:52
stuff. It's like that's true but I think it's
49:55
more fun to talk about it though. Well I think
49:56
I think it's also important to look at it's like
49:58
well Everything that we exist in. Yes. It's like
50:02
God created that. He created laws of nature.
50:04
He created order. He created like things operate
50:07
a certain way. Right. And God likes what he created.
50:12
He said he called it good. And so God often uses
50:15
what he created. And so I don't think it's unrealistic
50:18
for us to say that whether it's Philip or it's
50:22
the rapture or it's Elijah, it's like he uses
50:24
these material avenues. Yeah. to do supernatural
50:29
things, these blendings between these two worlds.
50:32
Right. Because, I mean, when we look at Philip,
50:33
when we look at the rapture, or Elijah, or even
50:35
Enoch, it's like these are very supernatural
50:38
events. Right. Where someone's going from a material
50:40
space, and then they're transported to a spiritual
50:44
space, but their physical no longer exists. Right.
50:48
I mean, that was the big thing with Elisha, the
50:50
people coming to him and be like, oh, yeah, so
50:53
we know that Elijah, you said Elijah just kind
50:55
of... God took him up, but what if the spirit
50:57
pulled him up and then threw him down on a mountain?
50:59
So we're gonna go look for his bones. And Elisha's
51:01
like, you're not gonna find anything. Like, no,
51:04
no, no, we're gonna find his bones. He's like,
51:06
okay, fine, go do it. And then they're not able
51:09
to find anything. So it's like, okay, so something
51:11
happened here. This person got erased from the
51:14
physical existence. Yes. Yeah, or in the language
51:19
of taken up, which is rapture language. Yes.
51:23
So like that is the element where it's like,
51:26
all right, well things are moving. They're moving
51:28
from point A to point B. That's the thing that
51:30
is interesting like when you get into this because
51:33
even like we've talked about before in the creation
51:36
conversation that you've brought up is that idea
51:38
of like, God created it and He called it good.
51:42
Well, Him calling it good is synonymous with
51:46
Him calling it orderly. taking chaos and making
51:49
it in order. So if he's making things in order,
51:52
then there's a proper process to how creation
51:55
works. Now we don't know the whole process to
51:58
how creation works, and that's where our discussions
52:04
land. It's not explaining what those processes
52:06
are, but instead exploring what they could be.
52:09
So like this episode in particular is just a
52:14
fun... exploration of a potential what they could
52:17
be, not even close to assuming that they are.
52:20
So Rapture technology, in the instance that there
52:24
is an order and a process for all of the things
52:27
in creation to move from point A to point B.
52:30
So they're growing, they're moving, they have
52:32
purpose, they go from one place to the next and
52:35
they have a mission and there's a reason why
52:38
it's happening and there's a process for them
52:41
to move from one space to the next. is what they're
52:45
doing, is it technically technology? Right. You
52:49
know what I mean? Yeah. In how we would define
52:52
technology. Sure. Which maybe that would be my
52:54
question to you. That's an interesting question.
52:55
How would you define technology? Yeah, that's
52:58
actually a really good question. You could ask
53:00
Chad. Chad, what do you think? Hey, Chad. Okay,
53:04
that's your domain. Oh, no, not YouTube, Chad.
53:07
Not YouTube, Chad. Okay. So it sounds like, at
53:10
first I was like, it sounds like he's talking
53:12
about... Like teleportation and sounds like teleportation
53:16
and time travel. I'm trying to say this for the
53:18
listeners What you just described is rapture
53:22
seeming it seems like your definition is from
53:24
physical to spiritual or vice versa It sounds
53:28
like that's where you kind of landed. Oh, yeah.
53:30
Yeah, think about it the demonic and the angelic
53:33
have that ability and Technically speaking we
53:37
have rapture technology built into us, but we
53:39
only activate it under certain circumstance To
53:45
summarize what Thomas asked, you do that. Hey,
53:48
guys. Hey, chat. So the idea that it sounds like
53:54
originally we were going from the idea of teleportation,
53:57
going from point A on the Earth to point B on
54:01
the Earth. But then, yeah, we're kind of talking
54:04
about moving from point A on the Earth to point
54:06
B somewhere in the supernatural. And then what
54:09
was the last part of that you said? It's both
54:13
true of demonic and angelic both true of demonic
54:16
and angelic and we have rapture technology in
54:18
us But it's only activated under certain circumstances
54:23
So I guess I would say in a lot of ways like
54:28
yes And I think there's something that's unique
54:32
about what we see in Scripture. So I mean, so
54:35
even like a teleportation side, that's the axe
54:38
reference with Philip, where we know that he
54:40
was taken, another word for is teleported, where
54:45
he was here in one place, and then suddenly he
54:48
was 30 miles away. And it's like, okay, that's
54:52
teleportation. Yeah, so technology is the application
54:56
of scientific knowledge for practical purposes,
55:00
especially in industry. And then Technology is
55:04
the application of knowledge, tools, techniques,
55:06
and processes to solve problems, achieve goals,
55:09
or make tasks easier and more efficient. So basically
55:14
technology is knowledge of better and more efficient
55:25
ways to achieve goals. So technology is implementation
55:31
of knowledge. for better ways to achieve goals.
55:36
So if that's what technology is, then the knowledge
55:40
to achieve a goal is basically how God creates.
55:47
Do you know what I mean? So in that instance,
55:50
it's like the knowledge of God to implement a
55:55
process that achieves the goal, the desired outcome.
56:00
What he would be using in the goal achievement
56:05
would be considered technology by definition.
56:08
So what God does as process is his technology
56:13
of achieving the goal. Yeah. Yeah. That's a really...
56:19
Like big abstracts. Yeah. So in some ways, technology,
56:24
rapture technology would be the most efficient
56:27
process. or the application of the knowledge
56:33
of the most efficient process to leave this world
56:38
and actually not leave this world, but be lifted
56:42
from the ground to the air with Christ. So that's
56:47
the other thing, is the rapture is not lifted
56:50
off of the ground, the earth, up into heaven.
56:54
But it's lifted between. But it kind of is, if
56:57
you're talking about the first heaven. So into
56:59
the sky. Right. So in some ways, it raptures
57:03
being taken up into heaven, not the third heaven,
57:06
the throne room. Yeah. But instead to be up in
57:09
the air with Christ. Hmm. So when we're taken
57:11
to heaven in the rapture, we're stopping at heaven
57:15
one. We're in the clouds. You know what I mean?
57:18
Yeah. Because that's where Christ is. He's coming
57:20
on the clouds. Yeah. So if he's coming on the
57:23
clouds and we're going up in the air with him.
57:26
Yeah. Then we're being then. Yeah, that that
57:30
kind of opens up the conversation of like what
57:32
happens in the air is the battle fought in the
57:35
air And that's part of that question to the prince
57:37
of the air Mm -hmm, right? Yeah, and it's also
57:41
an interesting thing where we talk about could
57:43
we talk about these blending of worlds? Yeah
57:45
between the two in another words like the natural
57:49
in the immaterial Yeah, the material the immaterial
57:51
use that sure And it's interesting because even
57:54
with Ezekiel, that's something that we see with
57:56
him, where he says he's taken up between heaven
57:59
and earth. And then he's shown a vision of Jerusalem.
58:02
And it's like, oh, so he's pulled up into this
58:05
in -between space. He's like, I'm not in heaven,
58:07
but I'm not on earth. I'm kind of in between
58:10
the two of those things. Yeah, glimpsing into
58:12
the other space. Yeah. And it's like, OK, is
58:15
that what we're seeing in the rapture? We're
58:17
kind of pulled in between these things? Yeah.
58:20
I mean, that's a good question. Yeah. But I guess
58:23
like to overall it's like we've said the word
58:25
portals a lot But it's like in essence what we're
58:27
saying is like is the rapture just a thing that
58:30
the technology of it Do you use that same? Verb
58:34
is just like is it just the ability to open portals
58:37
Sure, I mean as a knowledge of how to I think
58:40
in this instance. I don't necessarily I Don't
58:43
I don't know that it reads the same way as Phillips
58:46
movement from one place to the other Yeah, because
58:49
in the blink of an eye is not the is not time
58:53
of how long it takes, it's the moment that it'll
58:57
happen. It will happen in a blink of an eye.
58:59
But the movement from ground to sky, as it being
59:05
that quick. But it is described as it happening
59:09
quickly. So yeah, there's a lot. Once it starts,
59:13
it just kinda happens. Right, and it's that idea
59:15
of the Rapture technology being, Maybe rapture
59:20
technology is simply salvation. Explain that
59:25
more. So if belief in Christ and confession of
59:30
Him being God incarnate, died on the cross for
59:34
our sins, rose again on the third day, if He
59:39
is the door to the Lord, to Yahweh, if how we
59:44
get to the Father is through the Son, if He is
59:46
the door, even echoing back to, which I was just
59:50
talking to a friend of mine about this, but the
59:54
expression of thinking about Noah's ark as when
59:57
the ark is all loaded up, God shuts the door.
1:00:01
And that idea that like the door, the pathway
1:00:05
out of the door is actually through Jesus. So
1:00:08
it's this concept that like, In some ways, Jesus
1:00:11
is the technology Yahweh creates for us to move
1:00:17
into relationship back with Yahweh. So what rapture
1:00:21
technology would be is, I guess, technically
1:00:25
Jesus. Because he is the process by which we
1:00:31
are reunited with Yahweh. So rapture technology
1:00:36
would be simply Jesus. the whole point of the
1:00:41
Bible. So it's for Him, by Him, and through Him.
1:00:46
So in the definition of knowledge being proper
1:00:49
process or developmental process to achieve the
1:00:54
goal, then that is necessarily Jesus. So Jesus
1:01:01
is the rapture technology. I've never thought
1:01:04
about that. That's really interesting also. Yeah,
1:01:06
no one has ever in my life asked me about rapture
1:01:09
technology So I blame that on you. Yeah, that's
1:01:12
that's my brain But I would say that that is
1:01:16
all -encompassing and yeah, and not in the way
1:01:19
that like a little kid in Sunday school class
1:01:22
But also potentially similar to that where the
1:01:25
teacher asked a question that Jesus God. Yeah,
1:01:28
Holy Spirit It's a Bible. Yeah, you just you
1:01:30
just throw those things out. But at the end of
1:01:31
the day those answers are always actually true,
1:01:35
because what does the teacher say to the kid?
1:01:37
Yeah, technically yes, but also there's a more
1:01:40
specific answer. And it's like, well, you can't
1:01:43
really get more specific than Jesus. It's kind
1:01:46
of a big deal. I wish the kid would say that,
1:01:48
like a little three -year -old. Um, actually,
1:01:52
Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. Everything
1:01:54
is made for him by him and through him. Yeah,
1:01:57
technically I get it kid. Well, I'm trying to
1:02:00
talk about Bigfoot But that is an interesting
1:02:10
concept though because then in that way though,
1:02:13
I guess the movement of the rapture So being
1:02:16
taken up. Yeah to the air. Does that happen through
1:02:19
Jesus? I think in some ways the answer is yes,
1:02:22
but Is there is there literal like how does that
1:02:28
happen? Right like and I Mean the shofar is probably
1:02:36
the technology well, and that's like and that's
1:02:39
part of things like for me it's like to add like
1:02:42
Another language to this idea. Like what is the
1:02:45
technology? It's like well, it seems like it's
1:02:47
just we're talking about portals Okay, why do
1:02:50
you keep going to that? Well, that's kind of
1:02:52
what I'm saying. It's like, so like, what's the
1:02:53
method? It's like, what is the technology? We
1:02:55
say it's the knowledge, but like, practically
1:02:57
speaking, it's like, isn't that what we're actually
1:02:59
talking about? Is what is that? What is the thing?
1:03:02
What's the the doorway that opens it up so we
1:03:05
can go into the next thing? Oh, you're saying
1:03:08
is Jesus the portal? Yeah. Well, yeah. It's like,
1:03:11
yeah, he is. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he's the door.
1:03:14
And so, yeah. So by that, it's like so. What
1:03:18
Jesus is doing, it's like, and this is a big
1:03:21
thing that we've talked about a lot. It's like
1:03:23
there's a difference between us doing something
1:03:25
in our strength and him doing it in his strength.
1:03:30
Well, I guess in his, yeah, of his will, all
1:03:33
by himself. Well, and that's the whole thing.
1:03:35
And so it's like, and there's a huge distinction
1:03:37
there, because there's some things that we're
1:03:38
told, hey, don't mess with that. It doesn't mean
1:03:40
that thing is necessarily like in and of itself
1:03:43
wrong, but it means like it's not for us to mess
1:03:45
with. But there are times that we see like in
1:03:49
scripture where it's like, well, people are brought
1:03:50
into those spaces. Right. I mean, even like the
1:03:53
idea of like a vision, it's like, well, someone
1:03:54
with Ezekiel, it's like, well, he's brought out
1:03:57
of the physical into the spiritual. And we're
1:03:59
told not to do that in our own strength. Yes.
1:04:03
But God's like, yeah, but I'm going to do that.
1:04:05
Can I try to develop a parable right now? Yeah,
1:04:07
please. So let me try and develop a parable in
1:04:09
real time. So I think that rapture technology
1:04:12
in light of what we're talking about might be
1:04:15
like this. Consider that there's a man who lives
1:04:19
in let's say Cleveland, Ohio And unfortunately,
1:04:30
he was born without the use of his legs, right?
1:04:34
Is that normal for people from Cleveland? I don't
1:04:38
know but that's up for you to decide But let's
1:04:45
say this individual desperately had to get to
1:04:50
Shanghai so he has to get to Shanghai and he
1:04:54
is both needed and needs to get to Shanghai but
1:04:58
he himself cannot actually get to Shanghai so
1:05:03
the people that are in Shanghai that are waiting
1:05:05
for him that need him to be there they send him
1:05:09
a plane then they send a driver to go and pick
1:05:13
him up, lift him up, put him in the car, take
1:05:16
him to the airport, get in the plane, drive over
1:05:18
to them in Shanghai. Now, the people in Shanghai
1:05:23
needed him so much that they did all of these
1:05:26
things. What did the man have to do to get to
1:05:30
Shanghai? He simply had to be ready to be picked
1:05:33
up. So, in that way, this was what Rapture technology
1:05:38
is? And this is therefore what we are called
1:05:44
to do as Christians is be ready to be picked
1:05:47
up. So in that way, rapture technology is not
1:05:51
anything that we can develop. In fact, if we
1:05:54
try to develop it, we will end up as the likes
1:05:58
of Nimrod in the Tower of Babel. We will end
1:06:01
up as those who tried to make their way up. to
1:06:05
do it in our own strength instead simply the
1:06:07
gospel message is yeah you need only to be ready
1:06:10
yeah and when you are ready i'll take care of
1:06:13
the rest i'll send the plane i'll send the car
1:06:15
i'll come pick you up put you in it take you
1:06:18
there yeah so like now is rapture technology
1:06:22
a plane in a car quite literally oh that's the
1:06:27
thing i don't know yeah well i mean yes i mean
1:06:29
that's a great that's a great point even there
1:06:31
and i think that's what's so funny about The
1:06:34
book of Revelation. Am I taking you really far
1:06:35
away from Bigfoot? He was just an avenue. You
1:06:38
forgot about him? He was a portal. Okay. He was
1:06:41
a portal. I love it. But it is that idea of like,
1:06:47
okay, so he gives us these end time signs. Yeah.
1:06:51
In prophecies. Right. But he's like, and also,
1:06:54
you're not going to figure it out. Don't even
1:06:56
try. Yeah. Just be ready because it's going to
1:06:58
happen. Yeah. And here are some things you can
1:07:00
look for. Yeah. But it's like... Yeah, all he
1:07:04
ever asked us is, hey, go, same, we've said this
1:07:07
before, be fruitful, multiply and fill the earth.
1:07:10
Yes. He just rephrased it and said, yeah, go
1:07:12
out and tell all the nations the good news of
1:07:15
who Christ is when he's done. Yes. And be ready
1:07:18
because the time where you're able to do that
1:07:21
is about to come to an end. Yeah. So be ready
1:07:23
for that. Don't stop doing that. Be ready for
1:07:26
this. And don't even bother trying to figure
1:07:28
this out because you're not going to. Sure. Yeah.
1:07:31
And we're like, hmm, I'm going to figure it out.
1:07:34
Because if I figure it out, then I can help make
1:07:37
it happen. Right. And it's like, well, no, you
1:07:39
don't have to do anything. Right. Yeah, true.
1:07:42
And there's nothing you can do. That's true.
1:07:44
Yeah. So then the question would be, does Bigfoot
1:07:47
have Rapture technology? And the simple answer
1:07:50
from what we've talked about is, unless he's
1:07:52
saved, no. Wait, how is that the simple answer?
1:07:57
Can Bigfoot be saved? No. So next time on Martyrs
1:08:03
Row, can Bigfoot be saved? Huh? Three, two, one.