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Dr.Marcel Petiot , The fake nazi killer of World War II · When Killers Get Caught with Brittany Ransom

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something that he found to become particularly creepy.
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This week, we're talking about news updates on America's most
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prolific serial killer then, dr. Marcel Pho.
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The French real killer most active during World War Two and
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America's most prolific serial killer has died.
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Only a couple days ago. Yeah that's one thing is covid.
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As of right now, they only know that it's he died of something
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in the hospital on December thirty, first, twenty twenty
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hours of December 30th 30th, December 30th.
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If you don't know who this person is, his name is Samuel
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little and he has 60. The victims so far because
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they're still finding connections to people.
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He murdered decades ago across the country.
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Yes, he's actually cleaned it killed 93.
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Yeah, and I guess that seems like such a small number
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because, you know, we have our Ted Bundy's and other people who
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claimed to have killed over 100 women but they claim, right?
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But they could never confirm those people here.
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We I've actually been collecting DNA DNA evidence over the years.
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And we know it was at least 60. Ya gotta love those DNA kits.
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And the ones that never get actually tested.
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Yes, I'm so jacked up but I don't know what else to say
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about this guy. He was a boxer and you were just
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telling me before we started recording that he had a thing
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for neck behenna, he had a thing for necks and early child.
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What do you do about that? What are your child?
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I don't know. Just keep him away from me.
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Yeah, I'm not entirely sure. He got a thing for next.
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He also had a thing for prostitutes.
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Those were the majority of his victims people who he thought
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nobody was going to be looking for.
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And since he was a boy, I guess a boxer I guess we're saying.
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He was some kind of a celebrity. I didn't really know anything
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about him. Did you know he's arrested 26
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times in 11 states? No, but what you did show me was
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the horrible ugly photos of the women that he killed heat.
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They drew pictures of them. In was in prison their horrific.
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I don't know. I just saw him and I will have
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nightmares tonight. If anybody's watching this on
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YouTube, I will definitely throw up these photos on the YouTube
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video because they're horrible. They're like, I don't know, some
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sort of abstract vision of women.
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He wanted to kill exactly. They're like children's crayon
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drawings of people who they know, but not really.
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Apparently, he spent half his life murdering People from 1970
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to 2005, which is wild because I feel like I don't remember
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hearing about him. I was only Just getting out of
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high school when this guy got. Yeah.
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When he got caught and I was in high school you're only here
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behind me you have else but yeah apparently that's so far
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California's state corrections have only said he just died from
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something in the hospital. I was like, did he die from
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covid? It has to be cool.
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What else? I don't smoke quarters.
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You know, there's no social justice.
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No, social distancing in prison? No, not at all.
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One thing we do know is that he did used to like knock out his
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victims like with a hard, like, right hook before he strangled
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them, which means that there weren't always obvious sign that
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the person had actually been murdered, which is why we didn't
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know so many of them were You know, and I guess the FBI
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finalized like in 2019 or that many of his confessions were
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actually the truth, really? Yeah.
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So my thought processes is, did he really actually kill all 93?
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Then I mean that's a really specific number.
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But I guess that's the biggest thing.
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And he didn't even get arrested, can't even get arrested for
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being a serial killer, you got a rest of her being a for drugs?
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Yeah. And they did a DNA test on him
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and that's why we need to do, all these DNA tests Across
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America. That's why 23andMe get the
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ancestry done. Know, that is why I won't get
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the ancestry DNA, 23, anything done?
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Because I don't like that. The government can just take
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your DNA. Okay, what a help.
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So I know that it's very conspiracy, but Didn't like
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that. The government will just request
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your DNA or something that people they don't like that.
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Of course not. I feel like your DNA, your body
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DNA should still be something that you have to use a request.
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I feel like if I ever get caught being a serial killer ever and
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it grew me doing my ancestry or 23andMe, oh, that's kind of
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cool. Okay, whatever they're not
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there. What we're going to do right now
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is we're going to move into the main segment which is that
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tonight I'm going to be leading you on a journey with we're
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going to learn about a Doctor by the name of Marcel Peach.
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Oh and he is a friend to your killer.
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He's also been called dr. Satan and he was charged with
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27, murders, convicted of 26, but he admitted to more than 60.
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The big thing that brought me to this guy is the way that he was
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caught and the fact that he insisted until his death that
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All of his victims were Germans or German sympathizers.
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Okay, great. So the thing is if he had
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actually done that if he and if he had actually done that he
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would have been one of those people we talked about in.
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All right, now he's not. Yeah, look at this guy.
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He killed all these Nazis. How cool glaze bastard shit.
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Yeah. Like those three women who used
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to lure Nazis into the woods and kill them like he would be one
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of those people but he's not, he's not, but we're going to
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start with the beginning of his life which is that he was born
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January, 17th 1897. Evan and like most serial
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killers, he had a lot of problems in his childhood.
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It starts out primary school. He has a lot of trouble with
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violence, inappropriate sexual behavior.
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And this one, this one was really so good.
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He's 11 years old. Okay.
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He brings his father's gun to school.
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Propositions, another 11 year old for sex and then shoots off
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the gun to tell her he's serious.
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Yes, but that doesn't get him in trouble.
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That is a teenager. He begins, small crimes, theft
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destruction of property, that sort of thing, he gets arrested,
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officially for the first time at 17 trying to rob a post office
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box. So wait, I don't know why you
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would do that. Did you see something?
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Like, I don't know. Like, can you imagine trying to
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like steal from a blue post office box in America?
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No, you can steal people's bills and Christmas cards.
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I mean, it's all my bills if you want to pay them, but either
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way, they recommend that he be evaluated by a psychiatrist and
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this will not be the first time this happened in this man's
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life. Then.
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He's did, they determine he suffering from some mental
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illness and they dropped the charges we're in its 1940.
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Now, he actually gets expelled so many times during his school
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career that they have to send him to a special Academy in
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Paris and he graduates in 1915. So despite B, all of this, he
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joined the French army and World War One answering service,
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January 16th. Now, during the Second Battle of
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n, he gets wounded and gassed. And he begins to show the
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symptoms of what they called, been a breakdown, which is
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post-traumatic stress disorder. It's the spring of 1917, so they
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mentally assess him again, and they said him in for treatment
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under psychological care. He gets arrested for theft this
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time for stealing blankets morphine wallets, photographs,
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and letters from other patients. They dropped the charges after
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diagnosing him with something called mental equilibrium,
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neurasthenia mental depression, Melancholia, obsessions and
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phobias. No, I had to look these up
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because I've never heard of these diagnosis before I just
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like Melancholia, I know race. So, neurasthenia is this old
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timey, medical condition where pretty much, you just get
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headaches, fatigue, you're irritable Disturbed.
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I feel like I have neurasthenia like everybody.
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I don't know why, this was a special term but the mental
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equilibrium is interesting. Now, this is a real thing right
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now. But back then what they
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considered mental, equilibrium was a condition where your
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mental state and the environment is off.
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So your brain is taking in stimulation from the world
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around you, but you are not interpreted, interpreting it
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correctly. So, pretty much he was having
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some sort of delusions and then Melancholia seems to be what we
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would. All major depressive disorder,
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okay example it was just super sadness is what they call it
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apparently Melancholia. You have been diagnosed with
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super sadness. I definitely have likewise
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likewise by Brendan. Okay.
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So however being given six different diagnosis, this does
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not stop you from being called back during the war because they
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sent him to the front lines of battle again in 1918.
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But this time, he's like, no, I'm done and shoots himself in
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the foot. Foot that's more everything.
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Okay, front lines. Know how many peel some potatoes
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or something or write? He could have done anything.
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He could have been a chef for the war.
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He could have been a radio, operator, know, something crazy
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guy, all crying. Yeah.
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So he gets put in a different regimens September and then they
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sent him for a psych evaluation again this time they discharged
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him with a disability and in fact on his military discharge
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papers, they recommend That he be committed to an asylum.
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This point this man is like only 20 years old but instead no, no
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no, they did not admit him into Asylum, they allowed him to join
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an accelerated education program for veterans and here he becomes
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a doctor. Okay.
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See this is your problem. This is there.
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You have all these signs in front of you and you just no,
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no, no. Push them aside already hit.
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I know. We've a lot of sides here, but
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we're not even at the craziest part of the story yet.
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So after the war he gets his credentials, he is now doctor
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and my son teach. Oh, he moves to the new sir, Ian
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and 1921 and he gets a lot of patience and he's considered to
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be a very Charming intelligent trusted doctor.
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In reality though, he's pretty corrupt and he's been purposely.
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Prescribing highly addictive drugs to his patients, while
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secretly applying for medical assistance for the patients, so
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he can get paid twice. By both the government of France
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and his patients who are paying out of pocket.
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He's also addicted to narcotics himself at this point and has
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gained a reputation for petty theft and Performing illegal
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abortions. Mmm, so now we talked about what
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is thought to be his first official murder.
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He has an affair with a patient's teenage daughter in
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1926. He's in his like late 20s.
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At this point, her name is Louise Louise, Della VA and
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Louise disappears in the May of 1926.
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The neighbors report seeing bucho put a very large trunk in
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his car. Exactly.
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The same kind of Trumps that they pull out of the Ian River.
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Just a few weeks later that just so happens to be full of women's
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body parts. So the neighbors report, this.
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Yeah, They did okay sweetie. Okay.
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And the French police say that it's a coincidence and Della
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Valle is officially logged as a runaway.
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What? No.
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Despite the Scandal he would run for mayor and he wins after he
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hires someone to Heckle his opponent during his speeches.
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So campaign interference. Yep.
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Yep. Yep.
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Campaign interference it is. Oh my goodness.
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And he still want whatever. That in 1928, he married your
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jet level ear, she's a 23 year, old daughter of a wealthy
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landowner and they have a son named Gerhard.
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Who's born in April of nineteen, Twenty Eight, but if you think
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his time to see mayor who's easy, aha, I was not.
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He's accused of killing and stealing taxpayer money.
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He's accused of stealing oil from the railroad apartment that
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one. He actually got convicted for
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and sentenced to three months in jail, but gets overturned in
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appeals. This he gets a suspension as
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mayor for Month. And he ends up staying there
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until 1931. Now, despite the constant
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complaints of fact in the office is Mayor, he wins a seat on the
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general counsel, which would make him the youngest man to do.
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So, and we'll news story on History, where he goes right
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back to government feeling. He gets charged with stealing
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power from the city. I don't even know how you do
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that. Well, first, you get like a very
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long extension cord and you just the city next city over just
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boy, you know who the energy from them, I don't know.
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I'm like, will teach us not paying the electric bills.
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Was he like cranking up the bill that the city was probably a
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charging? The building, having the money
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himself. He seems like someone who was,
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you know, pretty into fraud. So, I feel like this was right.
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A lot of embezzlement big issue with kleptomania this man.
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But he gets fined for stealing the power, and he loses, he's on
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his loses, his seat on the council.
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And this is what he decides. You know, what I should do.
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I'm gonna move to Paris, Okay, so here we are.
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It's Paris 1933. He's only killed one person so
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far in his career. This is not exactly serial
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killer Vibes. He's been growing at his medical
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practice and on the surface he is a doctor with an impeccable
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reputation. A reputation that he used fake
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credentials to get But the rumors start in Paris that he is
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making his patients addicts. He's performing illegal
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abortions again. So this goes on, for the next
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couple of years in 1936, he's appointed to What's called the
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medicine. They toss Seville, which is the
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person who has the authority to write death, certificates in the
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town, I guess that would be the equivalent of like are not
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medical examiner but the person above that person is the medical
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examiner but it's the person who's that has a the end.
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End of the chain decides exactly.
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Like they write everything on the death certificate in the
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corner. Yes.
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Like the coroner's reports. Yeah.
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That's kind of the job that he would get at this point.
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He still can't keep his kleptomania under control and
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he's arrested for both theft and assaulting a police officer.
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But this time when he's about evaluated, they say that he's
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insane, and they institutionalize him for a year.
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This would be the first time, he has been officially like
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institutionalized for a long period of time first time.
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The suggested that it was years ago, yeah they suggested it when
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he got out of the military and when he was in the military,
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they kept them in for a couple months but not enough.
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But he gets released and his doctors are very unsure.
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Whether he stable enough to be around Society, but that doesn't
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change the fact they let him out.
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Anyway, He commits tax fraud immediately and gets fine in
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charge for these crimes. So by the time, Germany invades
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France in 1939, this guy has a massive criminal record and a
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long list of psychiatric diagnosis.
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And the thing is, when the Germans first settle in France,
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he establishes himself as a member of the resistance and
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he's actually doing like really good things.
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He provides false medical records and disability
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certificates for people who are being forced into German labor
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camps. So essentially Really, he's
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creating these documents to say, like, oh, this person.
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Can't do hard labor, right? Right.
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He's having them out a little bit and the people who are
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workers, he treats them when they come back from the camps.
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But he can't stop over prescribing narcotics and he
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would get him convicted again in 1942, Jesus, fucking Christ,
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just stop, you're not there, you're not good.
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You keep getting caught. Yeah, stop it.
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After this, with the big narcotics candle of 1942.
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He A new name. He becomes dr.
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Eugene and sets up a false Escape Network for resistance
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Fighters. Now, this is kind of where I
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think this is probably the scummiest thing I would say this
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man does. So just kind of like in America
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during like slavery, times where the Underground Railroad.
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This was kind of the same thing. But for Jews and other people
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that the Gestapo were looking for, they created these kinds of
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networks that were underground, except he shows were all fake.
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He called it Fly talks and he told these people that he was
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connected with the Argentinian authorities and he could get
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people transported from France to South America.
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And he didn't do this out of the kindness of his heart, he
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charged 25,000 francs. So I looked this up and it's
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about 28 thousand US dollars, but that was in 1942 inflation,
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mix that over four hundred thousand US dollars, that he was
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taking from people. This was people's entire life
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savings just to get This the get out of whatever it will see,
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essentially people were giving their entire life savings with
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the opportunity to potentially, get away from France and WWII,
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right? Totally understandable.
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And I mean that, you know, I would, I would probably be ones
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who bought into it and get killed.
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Yeah, definitely. Also he offered it to criminals
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to and other members of the resistance, come on.
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But he had three accomplices role for are admin pins, hard
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and Renee. Gustavus.
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But it's nazan debt and their main job was to go and find
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people and direct them to dr. Eugene, so once you met the
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victims, he tell them that he needed to get them inoculated in
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order to travel, but instead he was injecting them with cyanide.
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He was still all their valuables, collect their money
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and dispose of the bodies. Now, this becomes a big business
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and he starts to spot disposing them first, by throwing them in
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the scene River, but that becomes too obvious.
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So he sets up a quick line basement and his backyard, but
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that's not doing it fast enough. So he starts trying to
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incinerate the bodies in the fire when you call that.
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Oh my goodness. It would be like a boiler room
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type situation and I'm not a regular house with this is the
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40th so I can't exactly remember what you put it.
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In. But, he's incinerating.
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These people in his basement. Oh, oh yeah, I wouldn't know
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what to call it. I can't remember - yeah, like,
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in the furnace in his basement, which is not logical at all,
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because a furnace does not get hot enough to completely destroy
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a body. Like bodies are cremated at
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2,000 to 3,000 degrees depending on the size of the person.
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But listen, this is what he's doing and this is all happening
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in this house that he bought in 1941.
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That's down the street, from the Arc de Triomphe.
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Do you know what that is? I have no idea.
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Okay, well if you go to Paris right now, the Arc de Triomphe,
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is those beautiful giant arches. Oh yes.
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One of the largest tourist, attractions both then.
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And now you knew it it was by looking at it because really
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beautiful arches. That's our country homes and I
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didn't know me, it's one of the biggest but it's one of the
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biggest tourist attractions in all of France outside of Oh my
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gosh. Yes the Eiffel Tower your big so
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silly. Yeah, yeah but outside of the
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Louvre and the Eiffel Tower, these are these are the places
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you go. When you go to visit Paris for
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the first time. So he's literally like a couple
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blocks away from the biggest tourist attraction in his City
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burning bodies and dumping them in the backyard.
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Oh my gosh, he's burning people. He's burning people.
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Right bye. Oh my goodness.
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Yes. Yes, there are people just
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walking around just like, what's that smell.
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Hmm. Well, here's the thing, though,
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this didn't exactly go on as long as he wanted it to our boy
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Marcel, really struggles with keeping a low profile and it
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isn't long before the Gestapo find out about him in this
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underground route. Now, they assume the doctor is a
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member of the resistance and they try and set up a sting
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operation. And they force a prisoner, whose
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name is Ivan Dreyfuss to go to the network and Dreyfuss just
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disappears. I'm assuming he gets murdered by
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dr. Kucho Ow, and they keep trying
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until someone actually makes it through.
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And then they arrest for ye pins hard and doesn't that.
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Now, after being tortured, they tell the Gestapo that Eugene is
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actually dr. Marcel bucho.
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And they pick him up too. So, they decide here to release
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nazan that. Because, I guess you must have
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been the one who turned first. They keep the others and Peach.
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Oh, and his wife In prison for, I believe eight months under
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suspicion of helping Jews escape.
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And they keep asking them, you know, who were the other members
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of the resistance, where are the resistance camps?
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But these people don't know, because they literally aren't
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working with the resistance. It's all fake.
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Okay. Look, let me break it down to
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you. Okay?
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Look, listen. It's big.
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They're like, we don't know anyone from the resistance, you
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just don't know, just using this to kill people.
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Okay, that's all we're doing. There's still people.
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They finally all get released January 1944.
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Now, two months later, March 11th, 1944 be shows, neighbors
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have had it up to here. They've made local complaints,
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you know, the neighborhood, watch, people talked about it,
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but finally, they're like, okay, there's this horrible smell
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coming from this man's house and giant, dark clouds of smoke are
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coming from the chimney. I can only assume that he must
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have been burning. The bodies may be in smaller
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pieces or in small amounts. And maybe in this instance, he
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was doing too many at once because kind of like when you
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burn a green Branch, it releases a different sort of smoke,
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right? Then something that's dry and
24:39
brittle. So this was giving off a
24:40
different sort of smoke than should normally be coming from a
24:43
chimney. So what you're saying is you
24:45
should we just grind the body cell.
24:46
Maybe maybe then it would have just been regular gray smoke but
24:50
for some reason, this thick dark black smoke is coming out of his
24:53
chimney and people are worried, so they call the police and the
24:57
police are like, oh that's probably a house fire.
24:59
So they call the fireman who walk into this guy's house and
25:03
stumble across ten bodies. In various states of
25:05
decomposition, they find bodies in the backyard and a quick lime
25:09
pit. And they also find body parts in
25:11
canvas bags. Then they find suitcases, and
25:13
Property of some of his victims. This is immediately
25:17
international news and it's in all of the papers reaching as
25:20
far as Switzerland and Belgium, The show goes into hiding.
25:26
He tells his friends at the Gestapo were after him for his
25:29
work with the resistance. Because he killed German
25:31
informants, he and Pam. Are you always lying?
25:37
Oh my God, stop in Lyon. I know I know he moves in one of
25:42
his patients named. George is redoubt and he lets
25:45
his beard grow out and he begins using many of the different
25:49
aliases that he has during this time but he settles on one.
25:54
Henry, the Larry. And those who feel, how was one
25:59
a Larry? Oh my gosh, what are you doing?
26:05
Dad jokes, but he changed his name to Henry, Valeri.
26:10
He grows. He grows up that mustache.
26:12
And he joins What's called the French's French forces of the
26:16
interior, which are French forces there, like slightly
26:21
different than regular French cops but regardless, he joins
26:25
and he's immediately very good at this job of being a cop and
26:29
he rises to the rank of Captain. Still quite quickly. so, That
26:38
ball a newspaper called resistance.
26:41
Runs a story about dr. Marcel, Pho, and accuses him of
26:45
being a German collaborator, Police begin searching for him
26:50
again this time, very seriously and they draft Captain Henry
26:55
Valeri to find this dangerous Fugitive.
26:59
Now, the show's biggest mistake here, in all of this, is that he
27:04
sends his attorney. A letter asking, the attorney to
27:08
tell the public, that the newspaper is full of lies.
27:13
This alerts, the police to the fact that the show is still in
27:16
Paris. Until then they thought that he
27:22
had left town a month later, October. 31st 1944.
27:29
He is recognized, and arrested in the Paris Metro which is
27:32
their Subway on him. He's got Thirty One Thousand
27:36
francs, a pistol and 50 different sets of false
27:40
identification. I don't know if he was deciding
27:43
to leave at this point, like he was trying to just get because
27:47
as we know, we said 28,000 was about 400.
27:50
The US Dollars. Yeah, so we're talking about
27:52
about 500k, he was ready to bail, he was ready to leave.
27:56
He was getting out there during, I mean, at this point, they take
28:00
them, they rip apart his house and they find roughly the
28:04
remains of about 26. Different bodies, 2627.
28:07
They're not quite sure if the trial is a big deal.
28:11
It's a huge spectacle and he swears that he is a member of
28:14
the resistance and that he only ever killed enemies of France.
28:20
He claims that he discovered the bodies in his home after he was
28:25
released from the Gestapo because he was in prison with
28:28
the Gestapo for eight months and he is so he's like, listen just
28:32
like you. They must have been the other
28:36
collaborators with me in the resistance must have left these
28:39
bodies in my house. I mean, I let people stay there
28:42
while I was gone. I have no idea what he's buying
28:45
came from officer, hmm. But the police check and he
28:48
actually doesn't have any friends.
28:50
In any of the major resistance camps, some of the groups that
28:53
he said he was a part of didn't even exist.
28:57
And coincidentally, when he originally was interrogated, he
29:01
admitted to killing 19, German collaborators between 1940 and
29:05
1945, but they decided to actually charge him with the
29:08
evidence. They found when they had pretty
29:11
much pulled apart of house. And like I said, if you're
29:13
watching Youtube, I am, there's loads of pictures.
29:16
I'm going to be throwing up here right now, they ripped his house
29:19
apart. There's loads of photos of him,
29:21
just like piles of stuff out in the streets.
29:24
Like they were, like, we're going to pull it apart.
29:26
I'm like that movie we watched the other night where there was
29:29
clearly a wall that need to be ripped down because there were
29:32
definitely body my God that wall wasn't last night.
29:35
Yes, yes. There were clearly bodies behind
29:38
that wall. The French police were not
29:40
having they were like, listen. There could be bodies in this
29:42
wall and we're going to break them down.
29:44
So ultimately they can only determine 26.
29:47
Different people from these remains.
29:50
He keeps saying that 19 were part of the 65 enemies.
29:55
He killed His lawyer tries, his best to portray him as a
29:59
resistance hero. But the jury and the judge are
30:03
just not impressed. Probably, because P show decided
30:06
to taunt the prosecution during his trial.
30:10
So not only is he like not exactly the smartest but he's
30:14
also real arrogant. He is Pope that Barrel quicker
30:17
like you're taking a good nap and here's the best part about
30:20
this. Not only is he found guilty of
30:21
murder for profit. They also charged him with 135
30:25
other crimes. And he is sentenced to execution
30:29
by way of the guillotine. His last words on March 25th,
30:32
1945 were gentlemen, I asked you not to look, this will not be
30:37
very pretty. And this ends one of the most
30:40
ridiculous and incredible criminal careers I have ever
30:43
read about in my entire life. Nice, nice.
30:50
Oh my goodness. Every time I kept looking up
30:53
information about this guy, it was just that's what I said to
30:56
you when I was telling you about this, that there were so many
30:59
opportunities in this person's life to direct the sun different
31:03
location to cut him off at the pass.
31:06
Like you could have stopped this way before all this happened and
31:12
let me just let this go and there you go.
31:16
Multiple people dead. I mean even a situation with the
31:20
teen girl who he was dating and I have my feelings about how
31:23
teenagers should not be dating people in their mid-20s, but
31:26
whatever, right. And we're not gonna talk about
31:30
that today, but just he puts a trunk, it is car and the
31:36
neighbors are like, hey, we saw him with a trunk like that, one
31:39
that you found in the river the other day and the police just go
31:44
nice. It's a coincidence, us nothing.
31:46
What yours? You're crazy.
31:48
What are you talking about? And I find that overwhelmingly.
31:53
I think these cases, especially in the past, didn't get like we
31:58
have so many unsolved cases and so many situations like this
32:02
because the police were just like What you gonna do?
32:06
I don't know, chime lady. Oh yeah.
32:11
Yes, we could spend hours discussing the police in the
32:14
jump and he Marie MC case and how they just didn't do
32:17
anything. Yes.
32:19
But knows that John Mulaney. We need to that one then, one
32:23
bit with the cops and it's like detectives from like the 50's
32:27
and he's like, and they're like, oh, That's a probably as a
32:32
puddle of blood girls, so a mop that up.
32:34
Anyway, back to my hunch, it's really accurate.
32:40
The belief in the past, just I don't know what police work was
32:44
back then. I don't know, I can't tell ya.
32:48
It was just I think it was just drawing guard said boards.
32:51
Oh yes, yes tea. Yes, that lets you know and you
32:54
have to okay from the pins, you put in the board, you have to
32:58
wrap a little yarn around it. Then draw a connection to
33:02
another spot. That's exactly.
33:06
What do you have an early day? Let's go.
33:09
All right. So this next part of our podcast
33:13
is part of the Creeps of Brian. I think that's what we're
33:17
calling it. We're calling it.
33:18
Something that's your at least your Tick Tock name.
33:20
There you go. Creeps are Brian.
33:22
Um goodness all you now, okay, so today I'll be telling the
33:29
story of jeans. Dean in his car is, 550, Porsche
33:38
Spyder little bastard. This is a big deal.
33:41
I think I've heard a little bit about this in the past.
33:43
I hope so. I didn't certain people have it
33:46
and bad things happen. Every person who owned it, that
33:49
some speculations. Yes.
33:50
Okay. There are some claims on this.
33:52
I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready for this.
33:55
All right, so for those of you who don't know Jean who don't
33:58
know who James E was he was an American actor.
34:02
His full name is James Byron Dean.
34:05
He was born February eat 1931 that day.
34:14
Correct. Oh okay.
34:18
And Mary young Indiana. But after the death of his
34:22
mother, he had moved to Fairmount Indiana.
34:26
What's his on it? Uncle Like I mentioned before,
34:30
James Dean was an actor. Some of those famous movies were
34:33
Rebel Without a Cause East of Eden and giant.
34:37
He's well known as being like one of the cultural icons teen
34:42
heartthrob. Oh yes.
34:43
Like he paid. He played that out in the fluffy
34:46
hair and the stair. Yes.
34:48
What was it? What was that?
34:49
There's a name for like how like the characters he played they
34:55
were just like oh okay I got us a bad guys wasn't Rebel Without
34:58
a Cause like they were the bad teen boy Rebels.
35:02
So yeah he played like the teen heartthrob he was a bad boy.
35:07
Very much like Johnny Depp in the beginning of his career with
35:10
like crybaby. Yes yeah definitely like this
35:12
like bad Sullen teenage heartthrob.
35:16
Absolutely. Let's see.
35:26
So, Rebel radicals, in giant, were both released after his
35:31
death. Oh oh wow, I didn't know that.
35:33
Yes yes. Yes, they were both released
35:35
after his death. That's like the big movie.
35:38
He's known for which one? Oh yeah.
35:41
Definitely I think of him. I think of that movie.
35:42
The Giant came out after that 1 1956.
35:47
Okay. Well when did he die them?
35:48
1955. Okay, Dean became the first
35:52
actor to receive a pose humorous Boomers.
35:55
As his humid heat posthumus, it's posthumous Academy Award
36:01
nomination for best actor, okay? And remains of you do the only
36:05
actor to receive to posthumus acting nominations.
36:10
Okay, did he win though? Not sure.
36:13
Probably not. If it's not, if you didn't
36:14
notice it in your reader know, it did not come up that you just
36:17
orders nomination. Like yeah, you got nominated for
36:19
Academy Award after he died but I We're not gonna give it to
36:22
him. Yeah, I mean, he got nominated.
36:25
That's, you know. Especially all that matters.
36:30
Just, like many people. He had more than one
36:32
passionately. Okay, good and evil actor and
36:35
well, I kind of an idea since the car is were such a big deal
36:39
here. Was he a driver or racing?
36:41
Yeah. Yeah, he's passionate was going
36:43
fast. Like, Ricky Bobby, I go.
36:45
Fast gotta go fast like Sonic the Hedgehog.
36:47
I was just about to say that great movie.
36:53
So he had a thing for Porsche has won.
36:55
His first course is was 356 super Speedster.
37:00
I couldn't tell you what that looks like, because I don't know
37:01
cars but I'm here listening, you're right.
37:04
So I don't know a lot about cars but I know like it was a Porsche
37:08
and it has the word super Speedster.
37:09
It, it must be good. It must be good.
37:12
Must be fast. It's a, it's the kind of car
37:14
that are really like, well-known Hollywood actor can buy right?
37:17
Yeah, that's what you know, gotta go fast.
37:21
So he had a tenant racing events before and after rubber Eva
37:26
calls having success in his races, with the super Speedster.
37:31
He sees another Porsche. This would be would be his 1955.
37:35
Porsche. 550 spider that he named little bastard.
37:40
Okay. So this is the car that everyone
37:42
wanted. Yes, is he be EA?
37:45
You difficult? Oh, oh, okay, it's fucked.
37:50
Okay, let me look it up. I want to see the little
37:52
bastard. I'm into old cars.
37:54
Like I'm not, I don't know a lot about cars, but like I said,
37:57
when I see an old car, I'm just like, okay, okay, I get it, I
38:01
get it. Yeah, when I see cars like
38:02
Downs, like, ooh, my heart thinks it's cute.
38:04
This is a cute car. Like I said, if you're watching
38:06
on YouTube, we will put up all of these cars that Rider
38:09
mentioning because some of us don't know, cars like that.
38:14
So he enters Salinas, the Salinas Road Race, which was
38:18
scattered on October 1st. I said California.
38:21
So yes to the second which he unfortunately, we're not make
38:27
Also, he didn't die in a race. You do not Diner.
38:29
He's okay. Ha ha ha, ha ha ha.
38:33
I don't know what about this? So I'm here for it.
38:36
All right, so now we get to that part.
38:37
So on September 30th 1955 as he's on his way to the event.
38:43
What is done is done? Queer coordinator, Bill Hickman,
38:47
he's the photographer for coners.
38:51
It's a national Illustrated. Magazine name is Sanford.
38:56
Roth. He's a, he's a photographer and
38:59
the German mechanic behind Dean spider things Roth.
39:05
Worcester Rich German names are very hard.
39:08
Yes, I can I get that? Okay, I apologize if I got that
39:11
wrong. I'm pretty sure I did a German
39:13
family. Let us know.
39:15
He hopes so Dean was driving little bastards breaking in
39:24
based on rules so so it was a new car.
39:28
It was a new car. He bought it a week before the
39:31
race. That is like a party Foul.
39:34
Yeah. So you know he had a he had a
39:36
breaking in with the rich who was who was a mechanic on the
39:40
car. He hit his suggestion Sedin to
39:43
breaking in, he'll just drive it too.
39:44
The race. So you know it's it's you know,
39:48
the gears turning. Yeah.
39:49
But I feel like if you're a racer, you need to have a
39:51
Mastery of your car, not like just breaking a little bit.
39:55
I mean it's a poor she's giving a horse before you know.
39:58
Listen I'm not really a huge Nascar fan, but I have gone to a
40:02
race before and I feel like those people have, not only
40:06
gotten their cars a week before the race.
40:08
This is true. They do.
40:10
They do practice. Thank you.
40:12
Thank you. So maybe this is this is like a
40:16
NASCAR kind of raised at their you're doing.
40:19
Yeah, I don't exactly know what sort of racing you were doing in
40:22
these sort of cars, either. This looks like a luxury
40:25
vehicle. It's not but it's a, it's a like
40:29
it's compared to his other horse.
40:31
This one's like the actual like actual race car.
40:34
Okay. Okay, actual go fast, go fast.
40:37
They didn't tell you why he called it little bastard.
40:42
Such an interesting name. I know I just wonder.
40:47
But yeah, this is okay. So okay, so Dean James Dean and
40:53
Musa Rich. They were driving in little
40:54
bastard, right? And the other two were driving
40:57
separately from it. So early today at I think it's
41:02
3:30 p.m. Dean has gotten a speeding
41:05
ticket on his while driving a little bastard.
41:09
Okay. It was 3:30.
41:11
So next part, wasn't that surprising expert.
41:13
That's coming up. Isn't that surprising?
41:15
Okay. So, your crew was on her way to
41:20
the event. Going down, Route, 46.
41:25
Another car was entering an intersection in front of Dean
41:29
pretty sure the car cut Dean off.
41:31
Like the cut record did not see Dean coming right.
41:35
Road, it was afford to door. Okay, now if you look it up
41:40
there's actually a nice car too. Okay.
41:43
Yeah, but that's the thing with him, not being a well you know,
41:46
seasoned racer. So compared to the Ford the
41:50
little bastard was a lot smaller like closes underground.
41:53
Yeah. So I can tell you, I can see how
41:58
the for didn't see the spider, the spider coming up, but
42:03
imagine being the person who killed like James Dean, oh, you
42:07
would feel so bad. It's like it's like in in the
42:11
other guys when Oh, what's his name?
42:14
Um, the Yankee Creek was, like, Yankee Clipper, have you not
42:19
seen? Oh, goodness.
42:22
Everybody who ever have seat has seen the other guys.
42:24
You know what I mean? Like, it's like the Yankee
42:27
Clipper. Basically, like you, you shot
42:30
Derek Jeter and his leg. You ruined their season.
42:33
Thanks a lot. So, the drivers afford, his name
42:42
was Donald turn up. Turn up the seed.
42:46
So Dean salsa for coming out in front of them.
42:50
So he started, he tried to slow down a little bit until you
42:52
start. I'll explain it later but you
42:56
try to slow down a little bit. Okay.
42:59
And he impacted with the passenger side of the Ford and
43:06
the spider was thrown across the highway, so like bounce across
43:09
the highway 80 across the pink. Yeah.
43:13
And we'll so rich. He was thrown from the car and
43:18
Dean was, unfortunately trapped inside the car.
43:21
Okay, he suffered from several lifetimes.
43:24
Threatening injuries including a broken neck.
43:27
Yeah, he made it to the hospital.
43:30
On the scene. Okay, I didn't think one could
43:34
survive through your neck breaking outside of like a
43:36
Grey's Anatomy. So so as like you he was fading,
43:44
he was fading about as I move him into the ambulance so but
43:48
they pronounced him DOA, okay? When he died, while he was in
43:52
the hospital, I think it was like as soon as you hit the, you
43:56
know that you never arrival when he got to the hospital at the
43:59
Apostle rolls warmer. Memorial hospital and I was at
44:02
6:20. Yeah.
44:06
Okay, so when do we get to the death car situation?
44:10
Most of it wasn't the with the car being destroyed.
44:12
How is it like this around? So the car was basically told by
44:16
the insurance company. Okay?
44:17
Children. That then his thing is totally
44:21
just means it'll cost more to fix this car than the value of
44:24
the car. Yeah, it cost more than they're
44:26
worth to fix that car. So, what's the rich?
44:30
He survived that car that crash. He had like a double fractured
44:34
jaw in a serious hip injury and fewer injuries.
44:38
Okay. Turnupseed the driver before he
44:42
only had minor injuries. And now, this is a quote
44:47
straight from Wiki. It says, and request into d a
44:52
request in the Deans death occurred, three days at the
44:56
council chambers and St. Louis of this is Luis Obispo.
45:01
Yeah, that that. Okay.
45:04
We're the sheriff Corners. Jerry delivered a verdict that
45:08
he was entirely at fault, due to speeding that Turnipseed was
45:12
innocent of any criminal act. However, according to an article
45:17
in the Los Angeles Times of October, To level 5 a former
45:21
California highway patrol officer who had to be called to
45:24
the scene. His name is Ron Nils nilsen.
45:28
Contradicted reports that Dean had been traveling at 90 mph. 90
45:34
miles per hours stating the wreckage and a position of
45:38
Dean's body indicated his speed at the time of the accident was
45:42
more like 55 mph. So they're trying to blame him
45:45
speeding based on a car that he was driving.
45:48
I think, okay? But here's the thing.
45:51
Okay, dialing back into that thing with, NASCAR, the thing
45:54
that I used to like about watching those races is that
45:57
there would be an accident, right?
46:00
It was makes me seem like, such a terrible person but like,
46:02
maybe one person was, like, hit the wall or something.
46:06
And then every other driver on the road would avoid them.
46:09
It was actually like masterful driving and that's what being a
46:13
skilled racer is like incredible, crashes, things
46:18
flipping all this stuff happening.
46:19
And Nobody's dead exactly. Like, it's incredible but a
46:22
person who doesn't know what they're doing driving at 90
46:25
miles per hour. You're gonna kill somebody but
46:27
he wasn't. That's what was it?
46:29
No, he wasn't. That's what the the officer that
46:31
came on the scene. He waits be contradicted.
46:35
The corner. Oh, is he on a scene?
46:37
He could tell how fast he was going.
46:39
Right? Right.
46:39
So he said he was going on. You Brett mph.
46:42
He's going like 55 mph. Okay.
46:43
That's so he has like, you could tell he has slowed down because
46:46
he sold the for coming out of the road out in front.
46:49
Of him and slow down enough. Find 55 mph.
46:53
I mean this still going like 60 on the highway, it's not that
46:57
slow. You need that 6, Carlos this is
46:59
true. Speaking of the one who doesn't
47:02
have a driver's license So yeah. So apparently he was trying to
47:07
slow down, but Obviously he just sold out enough to avoid
47:13
crashing into the side of the fort.
47:15
All right, we have a crash. So guys, tell me about little
47:19
bastard. Okay, so yeah, we're getting to
47:22
the whole apart so we're getting a little bastard.
47:24
So, as a disclaimer, let me just state that occurs a little
47:27
bastard. May just been made up by an
47:31
attention-seeking individual. He was Just just listen to this.
47:37
Okay, we'll get to himself, okay?
47:40
So September 23rd, this is a week before Dean's accident.
47:46
Okay, he admitted with a Brutus action, actor is a man's Alec
47:49
Guinness Guinness was superstitious person.
47:55
He told Dean that the sports car looks sinister.
47:59
It looked exhausted hungry, doing a little ill-tempered and
48:04
spite of Dean's. Kindness, that's how people talk
48:07
about their cars, though. Really.
48:09
Yes, it's a little temper. My one friend like talks about
48:13
his car and my baby and it's okay baby and I don't know.
48:18
Car people are a little weird like I'm here, but car people
48:21
are their own kind of weird. I'm so cold a little bit.
48:24
I mean, are you a weird car people look, I kind of say my
48:26
car's. My car is if he sometimes Mmm
48:31
call hurt. You caused it to her.
48:32
It's a, it's a guy. So, it's like, our, yes, a guy
48:35
called. I've been the guy, his name's
48:37
Jamel. Okay?
48:39
So you are a car people. Um, City, he, I heard myself
48:45
saying in a voice. I could hardly recognize as my
48:47
own. Please never get in it.
48:50
If you get in that car will be found dead in it.
48:52
By this next, next time this week So what happened next week?
48:58
He died, he does but I'm pumped So as after accident the car was
49:06
considered a total loss by the insurance company but it was
49:09
sold by a salvage yard in Burbank California to dr.
49:13
William F and I cannot pronounce his last name.
49:18
I was going to try my best at strauch are strict that stretch.
49:24
Yeah. Usually see it to the k sound
49:27
that's rich. Okay.
49:29
So who at he had raced before against Dean?
49:33
So he had salvage parts of the engine, okay?
49:36
And put them in his Lotus IX, race car.
49:40
Another another driver used parts a little faster as well as
49:44
thing was trade McHenry. Okay, so it was worth something.
49:47
Yes. Yes, the parts are required
49:49
because you know, yourself would some parts only wasn't
49:51
completely unsavable I guess at that point, okay?
49:56
So after salvaging, what he needed, he sold it.
50:00
This is s Rich ostrich, okay? That's rich.
50:05
I sold the chassis of the little bastard to an a man named George
50:09
Barris. Okay, who had customize, some of
50:14
the cars that were in Rebel Without a Cause.
50:17
Okay, and he's also the self-proclaimed king of
50:20
customizers. Oh okay.
50:22
Yes. Yes.
50:24
So A Pimp My Ride, Kind of guy basically, he's exhibit reckon
50:28
50s, okay? Or whoever it was that West
50:32
Coast Customs. Yeah.
50:33
Oh my God. Yeah, the guy who ran that thing
50:36
that couldn't my ride was about. Okay.
50:38
So only incident that happened that s Rich while using the
50:43
parts from Dean's car, okay? Was a minor shunt with another
50:47
driver. That was during the Hamona
50:51
sports car races. There's an October 21st 1956.
50:56
Okay so unfortunately McHenry who had also use parts of this
51:01
car, he was using the back swing arms, a little bastard.
51:06
Okay I know you don't know about cars.
51:08
I'm guessing it'll back bumpy things keep going.
51:14
Keep going. It's all right, so I'm going out
51:15
there. Listen to this knows what you're
51:16
talking about. They hold a route to rear end of
51:18
the car. Okay.
51:20
So I You're kind of, right? They I'm just looking at the
51:23
picture of the car and I'm like, this little bumps of will back
51:25
bumps back home but look okay. Oh goodness.
51:33
Okay, so he was in the same race as Estridge.
51:37
Um, that you got as far as got a little trunk with other razor.
51:41
So, but McHenry lost control of the car and struck a tree.
51:46
Okay? And he died in this is to be the
51:50
only actual death caused by parts of the car.
51:53
Okay? So I did all spooky that
51:56
something that's get to that, okay?
51:59
George Barris Like I said before, don't be haunted by
52:05
James T ha ha. No, that would actually be
52:08
Justice that but um like I said before, he a customized some
52:12
cars in a Rebel Without a Cause And self looping King customer
52:16
customizers. He had bought the wreck of the
52:19
chassis from Estridge. So he announced Bears, he
52:25
announces that, he's going to rebuild a little bastard but
52:31
that that, that that That was too much for him.
52:35
It was like, it was a freaking, it was a wreck, the chassis of
52:39
the pensive and time-consuming like no.
52:44
Like the chassis one is total and is like Crush.
52:47
Like that is like it has basically a says, it has no
52:50
Integra grow. Okay, strength.
52:53
So instead embarrass the site to weld and looms, cheats sheet
52:58
metal, over the cave in front fender and a cockpit area.
53:02
Okay. Okay, he proceeded to beat one,
53:03
aluminum panels with a two-by-four.
53:05
Let's try to simulate what would appear to be a compliment
53:09
collision damage, so kind of gross.
53:12
So he is, so he like tried led to try and rebuild it, but he
53:16
tried to rebuild it like, it looked like it was an accident.
53:20
Oh, that's kind of gross. Yeah, yeah, this is a, this is
53:25
pretty bad. He basically bought the car,
53:28
just the show it off and try to make money and get some This is
53:33
complicity from it. Yeah, I mean, can you imagine
53:36
what was the same Paul Walker? Somebody buying Paul Walker's
53:38
car? Like, I'm going to show you the
53:41
car exactly, as it looked when it hit the pole, that's really
53:45
kind of awful. That's messed up.
53:46
This is all messed up. So then he'll up the, he went to
53:49
cards to the Los Angeles, chapter of the national Safety
53:52
Council for a local Rod and Custom.
53:55
So during 1957 and 1959, the exhibit was toward and various
54:02
Raw. And custom car shows.
54:03
Okay? Movie, theaters, bowling alleys,
54:05
highway, safety, displays all throughout California.
54:10
So various is believed to be the creator of the Miss behind
54:15
little bastard. Okay, so they think he made this
54:17
up so the means to make money. Yes.
54:21
Well, that probably takes away some of the excitement of the
54:24
story. I know.
54:25
I'm sorry. But let me get to some of the
54:28
creepy tells that he's told in some of the creepy tales that
54:31
may or may not happen. Okay.
54:33
Okay so I got this information from comment over Hollywood.
54:40
So it says, Bears had two tires from The Spider and sodium, the
54:46
tires, apparently, both blew out simultaneously, sighing, you can
54:49
layer, I can I speak simultaneously.
54:52
There you go, words causing the new tire owners cards.
54:56
Turn off the road which isn't that crazy of a story because
55:01
they're older tires. Exactly.
55:05
That had been an accident. Okay.
55:06
See. This is so not a spook Brian.
55:11
It's it's a myth. Yes, I agree.
55:15
This is a mess. Let's see.
55:18
So bears are kept a Porsche and two, people try to steal Parts.
55:21
Bears said, one of the see the suspects arms, torn completely
55:26
open, trying to steal the steering wheel and the other was
55:29
injured trying to remove the blood staining tart own seat.
55:32
Okay, so now that feels a little Christina Yes, yes, I loved
55:37
Christine. That's why the car going.
55:40
I did the car thing because, you know, Christine, okay?
55:42
I don't think that Christina was like that me and yeah, they're
55:44
me get that. Um, and 1959 little bastard was
55:51
put on display by the California Highway Patrol for safety
55:54
exhibit supposably the patrol. Garage that house the Porsche
55:59
caught on fire, according to the death of James Dean by one
56:04
newton. Okay so book.
56:06
Yes. So wherever the cart was stored.
56:10
I guess the the warehouse caught on fire.
56:12
That was actually true. Okay.
56:15
Yeah. The the cause of the fire.
56:17
Oh no, that's cool. Yeah.
56:20
Okay. And supposedly the poor spider
56:25
was being transported when a driver of the truck and truck
56:28
that was Towing the Porsche lost control the driver, apparently
56:33
fell to truck. It was crushed by the Porsche
56:35
when it fell off the back of the car also fell all vehicles
56:39
during other transports so it would never stay still.
56:43
Okay. Yeah so none of these claims
56:45
have been corroborate except for the fact that every time it was
56:49
stored somewhere that place caught on fire, the fire and the
56:53
death of McHenry, okay? Those are only two otherwise
56:58
it's big we're speculating that maybe Bears head Maybe
57:03
exaggerated a little bit on his first car.
57:07
All right. And like I'm not going to get
57:11
too much into the Bears stuff but there's been some I guess,
57:18
blow back towards him. Of course there would be because
57:21
of this in just like, and he's like, you're so creepy.
57:25
Yes, exactly. Is it.
57:26
Okay, so is the car still around?
57:29
I believe. Okay, so this is another report.
57:34
Could you go and see it? I don't like gonna do a Google
57:40
Google it, but um, beerus is he's also stated that the car
57:44
has disappeared from him as well.
57:47
And some and has not been found. Hmm.
57:53
Okay, so it's not around. Yeah, I'll boo.
57:56
I know you can't go to a museum and see it or sealant or nothing
58:00
like that. I just thought maybe go to a
58:01
museum. Let's see, let's see Paul.
58:05
Walker's car know you're right. That is so awful.
58:12
But the the dark McCallum and yes I know know it's like going
58:17
to looks like okay there's that whole Titanic Museum that in
58:21
that boat and they have things that they got from the Titanic
58:25
which they shouldn't really have.
58:26
Because most of that stuff's supposed to be at the bottom of
58:28
the ocean still. But whatever that in a moment
58:32
Museum, the mummer's museums that was called in Philadelphia.
58:36
Oh you mean the the Museum of the College of Physicians The M,
58:41
what is it called? Mutter mutters matter Museum.
58:45
It's the first car Mummers. It's called the College of
58:48
Physicians of Philadelphia. That's the one that has the soap
58:52
lady. I love that.
58:54
Well yes, she's the lady who they found in the mass grave in
58:57
Philadelphia and her body turned into soap.
58:59
Yes, it was lovely. It's just a big blue blob.
59:04
I was so enamored with that when I was younger and I couldn't
59:07
wait to go to the Mutter Museum and I was just like, it's the
59:11
big blue but interestingly enough, they did an x-ray and an
59:14
x-ray MRI. Hmm.
59:16
Recently. And her skeleton is in there,
59:18
really? Yeah, it is overheating into
59:20
the, it's still there. They also used to have a, what's
59:25
that guy? Who's the Russian?
59:27
He was like, they thought he was a wizard.
59:30
Rasputin, yes, they had his penis for a while.
59:33
Really. Yep.
59:34
It's back in Russia. Now though.
59:36
It's still weird. That that's the thing that
59:37
people want to see, look and strangely.
59:40
I would like to see it if you got it, I want to see it.
59:44
It's just like, it's just a magical.
59:47
Yes, he's a wizard. You're a wizard Harry.
59:56
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