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Observations & Stats On Illegal Immigration · Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott

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  Our two the Morning Show with Preston Scot. Good morning. That's Jared running
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  dot com. Simple as that, and Scott Beacon joins us this morning.
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  Hello sir, Hello present. Great to be with you again. Always delighted
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  to see your emails. Although I will I will confess that sometimes I'm like,
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  oh my gosh, there is so much data here. I'm curious.
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  How do you decide where you're going to begin tackling a topic like illegal immigration?
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  Because it reminds me of when mom told me to clean my room when
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  I was a kid, I had no idea where to start. How do
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  you start? Well, a lot of time it's a factoid or a data
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  point that I find interesting, and then I kind of dig underneath the covers
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  there a little bit and find out a little more context to what's going on
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  on the issue. And yeah, one of the things, for example,
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  on ilegal immigration, I used to live in New Jersey and we had a
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  lot of friends come into visit us in Metro New York, and everyone wanted
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  to go to the Statue of Liberty and go to Ellis Island. And it
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  always amazed me how few number of immigrants actually came in in the sixty years
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  that Ellis Island was open. It was only about twelve million. And to
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  put that in context, that's about how many illegals have come in the last
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  three or four years. And we had that and that was considered the great
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  wave of immigration in the United States. So that's the kind of thing that
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  I find interesting and putting that in context, and then that's where you go
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  from there is to say, what is this going to be in the future,
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  the compound effects of illegal immigration. I don't think anyone really has an
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  idea with regard to what the compound effects of this mass amount of immigrants that
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  have come in illegally is going to mean to the country over the years into
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  the future. I think that that's the word that really stood out to me,
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  Scott, was the word compounding or compounded effects, as you just put
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  it there. Where do we start to kind of get our arms around this,
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  start to work through the information you uncovered. Well, I'm a finance
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  guy originally, and if we all look at compounding effects with regard to interest
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  rates, et cetera, but it has a lot of effects with regard to
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  life in general. You make good decisions and those things compound and great results.
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  You make bad decisions, and we know those compound of bad results,
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  right, and the same thing goes with other things in life, you know,
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  and illegal immigration when you look at it. I mean, we have
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  a generally pretty good idea in this country with regard to birth and death rates.
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  You know where things are going, and so that goes into a lot
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  of planning with regard to infrastructure, roads and the electric grid, and schools
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  and police forces. But when why do we have immigration laws? Is to
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  provide order so we don't have chaos. So when you bring in a bunch
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  of people that we're not expected to be here, it puts strains on everything
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  that you have in society. It disrupts the social order, and it puts
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  strain on everything in our society. Our water, our sewer system, our
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  roads, the electric grid, the infrastructure congested urban sprawl, the schools,
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  the health system of rents, housing costs, and law enforcement, the justice
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  system. I mean, it just goes on and on and on, and
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  these things compound over time and it gets to be more and more of a
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  problem for society. So that's the reason they put immigration laws in to begin
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  with, to provide some order for society. But when you disrupt that,
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  who knows what this brings over the long term. Two decades of doing morning
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  You'll be better for it. Trust me. Scott Beacon, the writer,
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  the author, the researcher, the data guy on all this, Scott,
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  I want to start picking off some of the things you put in this latest
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  blog. Let's start with that cost of transportation and care estimated at one hundred
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  and fifty one billion between federal and state costs. Yes, that's a number
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  reported in Newsweek. I was kind of curious to get back to where you
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  were saying, before, you know, how much was all this costing?
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  And I came up with a number. One hundred and fifty one billion was
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  reported in Newsweek. And to put that in context, and this is one
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  of the things that I find interesting. You know, progressives are all in
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  favor of open borders, et cetera. But when you look at the other
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  side of the coin, they're also concerned about sustainability and all of the things
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  with regard to illigalimmigration. Is against the staying ability because they're putting more pressure
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  on everything in our society. And to put that one hundred and fifty one
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  billion in context, that's more than we spent on Social Security disability payments this
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  past year. It's more than we spent on veterans programs, which is one
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  hundred and forty eight billion. It's more than the entire food Stamp program,
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  It's more than all of the new highway and street construction in the United States
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  in the past year, which was one hundred and thirty two billion. And
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  we talk a lot about student loans. The thing I find incredible, one
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  hundred and fifty one billion is more than all we spent on tel grants this
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  past year for lower and middle income students, which is about twenty five billion.
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  And all the new student loans provided in twenty twenty three were one hundred
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  and fourteen billion. So we talk about, you know, student loan debts
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  and cancelation, etc. We're spending more on I legal immigration in a year
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  and we're spending with regard to student loans and tel grants in a year.
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  It's incredible when you look at the cost. And that's another compound effect with
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  regard to what's going on here, because it takes away resources that we could
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  do for other useful and priority projects in the United States of America. Well,
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  that's what I wanted to touch on for just a quick second, Scott.
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  Not only are these numbers dwarfing, does this number dwarf the other numbers
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  that you mentioned, but you're talking about limited number, finite resources available to
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  people in need in this country that I think most of us would say,
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  there are some that have legitimate needs that we want to help. That said,
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  it's totally unfair to those people to run out of resources, which happens
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  routinely in states across the country, because those resources are going to people that
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  are here illegally exactly right, exactly right, and that people don't under understand
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  the second order effects because the pressure this puts on rents. For example,
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  when you bring twelve million people into this country in the course of three or
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  four years, have to be housed someplace, and the apartment runways we know
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  are going up substantially. Housing costs are going up. Part of that is
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  supply and demand. I mean, there's only so much construction you can have,
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  and a lot of those plans were made with regard to demographic trends,
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  not expecting another twelve million people to be here and to be housed. And
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  you have that same situation going on in New York City right now in hotels.
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  I was going to ask you, we got about a minute left in
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  this segment before we go to the next one, but just a snapshot compounding
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  effects of illegal immigration, the prices of hotels that are actually still allowed to
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  be hotels versus those that have been converted into basically migrant shelters and housing.
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  What's happened to the hotel prices in New York City. Well, twenty percent
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  of the hotel rooms in New York City right now are being used to house
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  illegal immigrants. Now we know what happens. Well, you take twenty percent
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  of the hotel rooms in a market off, it's going to increase prices for
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  everybody else. We've seen that in the prices of New York City hotels,
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  I mean anything in Midtown Manhattan. You're talking five six hundred dollars a night,
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  and that's before twenty percent taxes that you have in occupancy, et cetera.
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  It's pricing regular Americans who might want to go visit New York City out
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  of the market with regard to how do you go visit New York City.
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  It's killing the city from that standpoint, not only the cost of housing these
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  people, but it acts as a great deterrent for people to do business,
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  or tour or do anything else in New York City. Yeah, I was
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  just going to say, you're not just limiting hotels, you're limiting the compounding
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  effect to borrow your term of those people that are visiting the city and they're
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  using their discretionary money to buy tickets to Broadway to go on those tours to
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  visit the restaurants, they're not spending that money. So New York City's losing
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  again, right, Those people are supporting New York City and the illegal emigrant
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  dot blogspot dot com. Scott Beacon with us for one more segment, Scott,
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  of all the information you detailed in this report on the compounding effects of
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  illegal immigration, I don't know which one is the most important, because,
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  like you say, they all kind of feed off each other. But I
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  found the information on jobs and employment pretty telling. Well it is, and
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  I think that's the most troubling thing to me. And look that the data
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  as well. I've been following this for some time. I mean, if
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  you look at the last four or five years, there's been probably a net
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  increase in employment of non native born Americans of about four to five million jobs
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  have gone to non native born foreign born workers, whereas the native born it's
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  basically level. So in e fact, all the net new job growth in
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  the United States over the last four or five years have gone to foreign born
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  workers. Now, there's no question that we need foreign labor for some sectors
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  of the economy. But that's also a troubling thing with regard to this illegal
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  immigration, because we know that most of those people are low skills, and
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  as long as the economy is good, there are jobs out there and they
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  can fill those jobs. But the thing I'm concerned about on the compound effects
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  is what happens when we hit the inevitable reset, What happens when AI is
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  replacing a lot of these lower skilled jobs which we know is coming right,
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  and are we going to be are we going to be left with a permanent
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  underclass that are in need of services, social services, welfare, et cetera.
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  At the same time, if we have a recession, we have fewer
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  and fewer taxpayers and fewer people pulling the wagon, if you will, and
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  we're going to need the one hundred and fifty one billion dollars a year.
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  We've been sitting in illegal immigration to support all these people. And that's what
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  my biggest fear is right now, is where the compact effects go with regard
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  to the labor market and what that means for the future. And it's not
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  a good forecast when you look at where we've come from the last few years
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  and where we're going. Scott, I know that every now and then you
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  might get a chance to listen to a few minutes of the program thanks to
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  iHeartRadio. But the fact of the matter is I have asked this question to
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  members of Congress for the last several years, and they won't ever say it
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  on the record, But I'm going to ask you the question I've asked them.
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  I believe our country is being invaded from the southern border, and I
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  believe there's a purpose to it. I believe the current administration wants it that
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  way. And the question I've asked is if this is not intentional, what
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  is it. Where do you stand on the answer to that question, Well,
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  it has to be intentional. I mean, there's no other explanation for
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  it, because you know it's a violation of the law number one. I
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  mean, the laws are on the books. Now, maybe people don't like
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  the laws, but the laws have been on the books for a long time.
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  And you know, I really hold both parties accountable. I mean,
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  this illegal immigration thing should have been solved a long time ago. Agreed,
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  Yeah, there should be a guest worker program. In fact, I read
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  a blog probably ten years ago that you know, we all know about the
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  green card, but we need a red card. And my view was a
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  red card basically would allow someone to come in and work for that limited purpose
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  where we had specific skills needed. They would get a red card to come
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  in for a temporary time, allow them to go back to get no benefits,
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  et cetera. But they would have legal status to work. But in
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  order to do that, then you've got to enforce the border, because you
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  know, if you're going to have a system, you've got to have a
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  baseline. And if someone's not here legally, they have to they have to
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  go home. Unfortunately, I mean, that's just the way they has to
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  work. That's the only way you can have order in society. But I
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  think that it has to be a calculated plan by the Democrats to have a
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  permanent underclass. That's the only logical argument argument to have people here that they
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  can eventually get to be voters or et cetera and get the votes to maintain
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  a majority long term. That's the only explanation that you can come up with,
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  Scott. As always, I appreciate you carving out some time for us.
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  Look forward to our next visit. Always look forward to your email.
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  Thanks so very much. Okay, thank you so much, and enjoy the
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  time off. Thank you, sir. Scott Beacon with us this morning.
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