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Down at the MHSAA - MAAA Meetings in Biloxi! Listen in · The Jake Wimberly Podcast

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  Guys, pick As Jackson. Hey, what do you say we singing driving?
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  Soon? There's not gonna be any singing around here, just real sports.
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  The Afternoon Drive with Jake Quimberly. Yeah, this is gonna be sweets
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  Body Shop. I'm on the Missipi Gulf Coast today and tomorrow this we will
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  be broadcasting from the Beautiful ip Casino and Resort. For the MHSAA and the
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  the m Triple A Athletic Administrators Associations meeting Spring meetings, even though it doesn't
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  feel like spring is to kick off of the calendar year for the MHSA,
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  the MAC and the m Triple A and of course I want to say thanks
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  we appreciate them t and us up here as well. We'll have several guests
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  on today. Chris Landry will join us four to four thirty. We'll talk
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  at NFL playoffs. We'll get his thoughts on what's going on over in Alabama.
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  Steve robertson at five point fifteen he will join us as well, talking
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  to CBS football, a little basketball, and we may peek in on some
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  baseball. Bev, I assume that the Fista made it. And I know
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  when we left the other day our vehicles were frozen solid. But the Fista,
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  I guess, is okay. Now, yeah, yes, she lived.
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  That's good. That is a good thing. All right, let's get
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  started. We've got a lot to get into and catch up on. We
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  were off obviously yesterday because the roads were frozen solid, and Beaver and I
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  made an executive decision that we were not going to risk it. We love
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  you guys, but we've said we would lift to fight another day. A
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  lot of guys in the transfer portal. Still. Texas State quarterback TJ.
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  Finley has hit the transfer portal again. The former LSU Auburn signal caller through
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  for three and thirty nine yards and twenty four touchdowns for this past season.
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  Also, let's see here, former Oregon quarterback Robbie Ashford has officially committed to
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  South Carolina. So, you know, and I went over the weekend because
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  we had some time, especially yesterday, really churning through a ton of numbers
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  on quarterbacks and recruiting and coaching and all that stuff for the twenty twenty four
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  hour glass. Because there's just so much to do to punch a lot of
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  that stuff out, I said, let's just just take a look at it
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  and see what we got. And you know, Robbie Ashford looks like he
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  will be probably the starting quarterback for South Carolina, believe it or not.
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  If you go kind of look at what's going on. Spencer Ratler of course,
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  is on his way to I mean you would maybe he's going to get
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  a shot maybe at the National Football League, maybe a free agent contract.
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  We'll see where he's at. But you start looking at South Carolina, they
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  don't have a whole lot of a lot of guys coming back. Leonora Sellers
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  as a freshman quarterback that'll compete for that job, where Robbie Ashford is likely
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  going to be. Let's see here, either one of those work. Either
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  one of those work, but lot's like Robbie Ashford will be the guy,
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  possibly the starter there, excuse me for South Carolina. Also, you know,
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  if you've been following what's going on over in Alabama, the University of
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  Alabama and what their new head coach, coach Kaitlyn de Bor is doing.
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  Buffalo coach Maurice Linguist is leaving to become the an assistant in Alabama. First
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  reporter by Chris Lowe. In the past two days, Alabama has hired the
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  youngest head coaches in the Sun Belt and Kane Wamick from South Alabama and then
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  of course the m AC longust to be assistant. So Debor putting together what
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  looks to be a pretty solid staff to start his tenure there at Alabama.
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  Also, like what our friend Josh Pate had to say over the last twenty
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  four hours. Pate was talking about let me pull back over here, as
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  my laptop decided to there we go. Pate was talking about Alabama fans and
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  BAMA fans at thirty and under, and I would say more like thirty five
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  and under calling them and this is just not really taking a shot, but
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  I thought it was pretty funny trust Fund fans basically saying, hey, you've
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  had a lot of good stuff over the last seventeen years, most of your
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  childhood, most of your adulthood, it's been it's been fantastic. Nick Saban
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  has delivered. But now we'll see what that's going to look like and how
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  well they handle handle. College football preseason D one baseball rankings are out.
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  Wake Forest is number one in pre season baseball college baseball, Florida number two,
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  Arkansas number three. You've also got LSU at number four, So Florida
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  Arkansas, LSU out of the SEC, TCU at number five, Vanderbilt checks
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  in at number six, the Whistler and Vandy at six. Also Oregon State
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  at seven, Texas A and MA Tennessee nine, and Clemson ten. And
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  I do not see a Mississippi State are ole miss siding in the at least
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  in the D one baseball dot Com rankings. South Carolina checks in at twenty
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  five. Also, you've got to Alabama checking in at nineteen, Texas at
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  sixteen. I'll bring up Texas. Obviously they're not playing in the SEC this
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  year. This is their last year of Big twelve baseball, but they'll be
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  playing in the SEC next year. Also, I'll get Beef's thoughts on this
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  a little later on Shiloh and Shador Sanders. Let me get it right now,
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  Bev, did you see this out there on Shallow and Shador? No,
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  okay, I'm going to send you a picture of this, I promise
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  you. When I was cruising Twitter, I thought it was just them going
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  hunting, you know, cause the Sanders like to shoot guns and get out
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  and they're outdoorsmen like to hunt. Shalloh and Shador Sanders skipped Colorado's first team
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  meeting. Instead, they were in Paris for the fashion week modeling Louis Vatan's
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  men'swear collection. So I will send you these photos during the break so you
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  can have a good visualization of this. Also, I don't know if you
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  guys saw it or not. And you know, we bang on reporters a
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  lot when they need to be you know, kind of banged on and ragged
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  on. But a reporter, a female reporter, asked Todd Bowles of the
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  Tampa Bay Buccaneers how the Bucks are preparing for the weather in Detroit this weekend.
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  It was fascinating this exchange in the fact that he talked about, Well,
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  here's the thing. They play in a dome. They've played in a
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  dome forever for fifty years, so I think we're going to be okay with
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  a dome atmosphere. Also talking about the transfer Portal Alabama transfer cornerback Des Rix
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  has committed to Texas A and m Rix is a former five star recruit from
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  the class of twenty twenty three. And I want to get into this later
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  on about some of the exploratory work on recruiting and you know how we quantify
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  rankings. You know, I'm going to bring up Alabama and Georgia because I
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  found some fascinating stuff that nobody's really talking about as it pertains to rosters Alabama
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  and Georgia particularly, and it might give a little more insight to why Nick
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  Saban said it's seventy two. Hey, I'm done, I'm tired, I'm
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  over it, and I'm gonna let somebody else deal with this. I've done
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  enough. I've won more more championships than anybody else, and I'm out of
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  here. But Alabama having again some you know, some defection so to speak.
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  In the Transfer Portal twenty twenty four lines are already out FDS Sportsbook believe
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  it or not, courtesy of Brett McMurphy for a Week one games and some
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  other games as well. Florida State right now is a twelve and a half
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  point favorite if you want, if you want to play like all you hardcore
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  gamers can play this now. In Dublin, they're a twelve and a half
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  point favorite. Texas A and M is a one and a half point favorite
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  over noted and that's a Week one or Week two matchup for college football.
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  Georgia is a twelve and a half point favorite of a Clemson Atlanta and I
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  think that's fair even today. Texas is a one and a half point favorite
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  at Michigan. I think that is fair. LSU minus six against Vegas,
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  Yes, yeah, they'll be fine. LSU minus six versus USC in Vegas.
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  Georgia a two and a half point favorite at Bama. That'll be Calyn
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  de Wore's first SEC ballgame. Michigan eleven and a half point favorite at Washington.
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  Oregon is a point and a half favorite against Ohio State. Georgia a
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  three and a half point favorite right now on the road at ole Miss,
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  LSU a one and a half point favorite against Bama. Ohio State a six
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  point favorite against Michigan, and then Colorado is a seven and a half point
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  favorite over North Dakota State, and that's their first ballgame of the year.
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  And again you want to kind of circle that and keep an eye on that
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  because North Kota State is going to have a shot to win that ballgame.
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  Ole Miss announces wide receiver coach Derek Nixon is leaving to become Auburn's new offensive
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  of coordinators, so Nicks will head to the Planes to work with Hugh Freeze.
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  Also, Jim Harball has interviewed for his second job in the National Football
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  League, and the Atlanta Falcons have put this out there like the San Diego
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  Chargers did, so is we have interviewed Michigan head coach Jim Harball for a
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  head coaching opening. So Harball now with two interviews this week with the National
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  Football League one with the Atlanta Falcons and the other with the San Diego Chargers,
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  and then you look at what he did as far as some of the
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  requests from Michigan. He basically said, hey, look, I want to
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  be the head coach at Michigan. I'd like to do contract, but I
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  want immunity from everything that's gone on over the past year, which makes it
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  very, very tough. I don't know that they're going to be able to
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  offer him any kind of immunity as they move into the process. Six or
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  four thirty, Steve Robertson five to five point fifteen. We're down on the
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  get teed up with. Six or one, eight, five, three,
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  seven, seven six is the Cowboy Maloney's text line What's next for Alabama examining
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  what goes right, wrong and wrong when it replacing legendary coaches. We will
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  get into that courtesy of Brandon Marslo. The NCAA has denied Maryland transfer quarterback
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  to leea attacking waiver for an additional year. B and I were talking about
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  this a couple of weeks ago and just seeing, hey, where does he
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  go? What happens? But for some reason, even with support from Alabama,
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  this is Nick Saban and Alabama wrote a strong plea to the NCAA and
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  his support basically said, in un paraphrasing, hey, look, he played
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  just a few plays, a few snaps here, a few snaps there.
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  He was just over the deal. Give him a shot, and it was
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  like, Nope, not happening. So they are not going to allow that.
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  So he is off to the National Football League. Florida State has landed
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  five former Alabama players via the transfer portal. Running Back Roydale Williams is headed
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  to Florida State. Also, offensive lineman Terrence Ferguson headed to Florida State.
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  Malik Benson, wide receiver to Florida State. Defensive back Earl Little Junior and
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  linebacker Sean Murphy all headed to Florida State from Alabama. Also, former Oregon
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  State wide receiver Silas Bolden has committed to Texas to five eight, one hundred
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  and sixty five pound wide receiver total eighty catches for one thousand and seventy six
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  yards and four tds in his time with the Beavers, who have one year
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  of eligibility, and quietly Texas has put some really big, wider rests receivers
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  around their quarterback room as they come into the SEC next year. Also Alabama.
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  Speaking of Alabama, Alabama star defensive Caleb Downs is going into the transfer
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  portal. And just a few more notes here as I'm moving through the transfer
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  portal notes, Alabama offensive tackle Caden Proctor is headed into the transfer portal.
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  The former five star plus recruit started all fourteen games for the time this past
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  season, so there are definitely some deficiencies when it comes to what's going on
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  at the University of Alabama. Ohio State has hired Ross York as their new
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  athletics director. This was yesterday quote to be a part of the Buckeye Nation
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  along with its story, traditions, and long history of achievements, is a
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  tremendous honor and a welcome challenge for me and our family. I can't wait
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  to get started. Biever, did you have any thoughts of Ross York,
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  who tripped his way from Ole Miss to Texas A and M and now to
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  Ohio State being the athletics director at Ohio State the same as same as when
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  he went to Texas A and M. I don't fully understand how he keeps
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  getting these jobs. I mean this when I say this, he must interview
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  well, He really must interview extremely well. It is kind of baffling that
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  he is the athletics director at Ohio State, but congratulations to him. Also
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  congratulations to Britt Brennan. He is the new head football coach at Arizona because
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  Arizona's head football coach obviously he took the job at Washington, and now Washington
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  hires Brett Brennan as their new head football coach. Also speaking of coach,
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  as LSU is finalizing a deal to bring Corey Raymond back to Baton Rouge.
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  Raymond, of course, was the architect of DBU and is headed to coach
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  for the Tigers. So he is headed back as Brian Kelly is trying to
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  beef up that defensive side of the football. Let go the entire staff on
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  the defensive side. And now he's you know, obviously scourury to putting new
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  guys around it, bringing back some of the old guard. And again the
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  Falcons announced that they have interviewed Jim Harbaugh for their opening in the National Football
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  League. Dan Wetzel reports since losing the Rose Bowl, Alabama has seen the
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  following Nick Saban retire, twenty one players enter the transfer portal, including stars
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  Isaiah Bond and Caleb Downs. Six recruits from the class of twenty twenty four
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  twenty five have decommitted, and it's been a tough stretch for the Tide.
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  And John Talty also on this said to sum up Alabama's day so far.
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  Today, SEC Freshmen of the Year and star safety Caleb Downs expected into the
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  portal, starting left tackle Kate Proctor, five star goes into the portal.
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  Five star Zion Grady de Commits, welcome to the SEC, and twenty four
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  Kaylin de Boor. And so, you know, looking at this and when
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  you start looking at at talent, you know, and again the way that
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  we've always done this, and I say we as in the industry, whoever
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  likes to play with the numbers and likes to play with recruiting and all this
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  kind of stuff. Used to what you would do is you'd say, Okay,
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  look, we're gonna we're gonna rank this and all of it. There
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  is some legitimacy to it. You can't live on just talent. I mean,
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  obviously there's a lot of the factors to being successful in college football.
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  But when you look at it, it would say, okay, let's let's
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  look at a four year model. So you know, your freshman class ranked
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  number one in the country. Your second sophomore class was three, five and
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  seven. So you just average that up and okay, we've got a four
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  year average of you know, whatever that is. I have always used,
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  up until this year, a three year average, because the three year average
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  to me, seems a little a little more realistic because by the time a
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  class then, though this is prior to the transfer portal being as hot as
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  it is this year and even last year, your freshman class, the likelihood
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  of having you know, twenty five guys go from freshman year to senior year
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  and all twenty five or even twenty being there is. It is slim to
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  none, it really is. So you kind of fight on a three year
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  rolling average. Now with the transfer portal, you know, talking with Kelly
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  Ford, who'll be back on with us next week, I was talking to
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  him last night about this and talking to some other guys. How do you
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  quantify what's what's the best way to really start quantifying this, because if you
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  look at Alabama, for instance, they have the number two class this year
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  in recruiting. Last year in recruiting there is occurtesy of on three dot com
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  they had the number one class, and if you go back and look at
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  the prior to years, they're going to be at one or two. However,
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  when you start factoring in the transfer portal, and let me roll over
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  here and look at Alabama's numbers in the transfer portal over the last two years.
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  And we haven't really talked a lot about this as it terms, you
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  know, to Alabama and even Georgia to some degree. Alabama this year.
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  Now, again, not all transfer portal classes are created equal. For instance,
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  if you go to the top, you look at Louisville, they've had
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  twenty one guys out and twenty three guys in. But on three's rankings,
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  feel that the twenty three that are in is good enough. With the number
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  one portal class this year, even though they had twenty one out, they
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  had twenty three in Colorado the same way number two class seventeen out move twenty
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  two in. At least on paper, those twenty two guys give them ole
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  miss seventeen out fourteen in. So you kind of understand the math here.
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  But you go down here and you start looking at Alabama, they've had twenty
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  four guys out this year and three in. Okay, that's twenty four.
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  That's almost a full class that has gone out and only three in. And
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  if you go back and you start looking at last year's numbers, that nobody
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  really talked about it because I don't know that we were necessarily paying attention.
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  We see all these guys go into the transfer portal. But looking at it
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  from a collective, as far as a class is concerned, last year,
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  let me go past fifty, because it was they were right around that as
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  well. Is last year Alabama was sixty six. They had twenty two out
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  and five in. So you go twenty five and twenty four and twenty two.
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  That's forty six guys and only eight in. Alabama has a roster problem
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  that is starting to manifest itself. In the words of Aaron Rodgers. And
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  if you don't believe it, look no further than the National semi final against
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  Michigan where they had a problem at center and it snaps and everybody's going,
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  why don't they put somebody else in there? They didn't have anybody else.
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  He was the guy. He was the one guy. So what you're starting
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  to see is, well, Alabama doesn't have a talent problem. Auburn almost
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  beat them. There were other games where Alabama struggled. Yeah, they won
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  ten games, eleven games. They were able to ge get that far.
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  Their problems on that roster, and it's starting to really show. And now
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  we're seeing that even more. No longer does Alabama have the depth that they
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  normally had. And look, we can do this exercise with Georgia because Georgia's
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  got the same similar problems. We're starting to see, Well, Georgia didn't
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  have problems. They played some plu close ballgames. Auburn again almost beat them
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  this year. Some other teams played them really close. That's a depth issue.
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  They don't have the depth in Alabama and at Georgia that they had even
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  anything on your end we need to get to, we'll come back to Beaver
• 23:07
  on that I was talking about how the transfer portal, we're starting to see
• 23:12
  how it can really affect rosters, and I don't know that we have enough
• 23:17
  sample size yet to really really see how much is it going to button up
• 23:21
  rosters, how much is it going to pull rosters closer together, meaning forever
• 23:26
  Alabama was out in front, even Georgia out in front. And look,
• 23:30
  let's look at Georgia for instance. I mean Georgia, a team that has
• 23:33
  finished one or two in recruiting, won this year roster over roster. Last
• 23:38
  year, Georgia had fifteen guys hit the transfer portal and they had four guys
• 23:44
  come back in. That's not too bad, right, that's not too bad.
• 23:47
  I mean, you can get away with that. But you look this
• 23:51
  year so far for Georgia, and I want to find them because they're way
• 23:56
  on down this list this year as well. I mean LSU fifteen out six
• 24:02
  in the they can live without a year or two. And you know,
• 24:03
  we saw this with LSU a couple of years ago, several years ago,
• 24:07
  where they had a lot of guys go enter the NFL draft early, and
• 24:11
  that happened two three years in a row, and then you saw it catch
• 24:15
  them on the field. Georgia last of this year, twenty one guys in,
• 24:18
  twenty one guys out six in. When you start having years of twenty
• 24:23
  to twenty four guys out and you're only bringing in six seven, eight,
• 24:27
  excuse me, your depth is where it gets you. I mean, George
• 24:32
  is still gonna put as good a football team as anybody in the country on
• 24:33
  the field on a Saturday. They're starting twenty two Alabama rightfully so as well,
• 24:38
  it's just what does that depth look like in the fourth quarter? What
• 24:41
  does that depth look like in week four, Week seven, and down the
• 24:45
  road? And you know, I kind of carved through this and for me,
• 24:48
  I have not and will not pick a national champion until April or May
• 24:52
  when we go to a Maristar and do our future bets, just like we
• 24:56
  did with the Michigan this last year. I will tell you at least from
• 24:59
  ten one thousand foot fly over over the last few days, I have Georgia
• 25:03
  as the number one team in the country with a rating stamp. And again
• 25:06
  we'll put all this out at one forty eight point two eight. That's just
• 25:08
  that's their identifying number. I have Oregon, Oregon as the number two team
• 25:14
  right now in the country. And Oregon, what they have done, you
• 25:18
  know in the transfer portal picking up the quarterback that they have picked up.
• 25:21
  Their transfer portal work has done good. Their recruiting is good. One thirty
• 25:25
  eight point eight. I've got Alabama at number three right now, at one
• 25:27
  thirty seven point eight two. But there's some distance now that is happening between
• 25:34
  Georgia and Alabama, and it's it's starting to show, even though Alabama beat
• 25:37
  them this year on the field, it is starting to show. Ohio State,
• 25:41
  we talked about them. I have them at four, and again I
• 25:44
  didn't think Ohio State. You know, when you started looking at losing Kyle
• 25:48
  Accord and losing you know, guys to the NFL, you thought, wow,
• 25:51
  this is a roster that's going to have to it's going to take a
• 25:52
  step back. But you look at what they've done in the transfer portal recruiting,
• 25:56
  they have done a lot of good work there at number four, Texas
• 25:59
  number one, five one, twenty nine point five to one. So and
• 26:03
  these are teams that if they all played right now, Georgia, Oregon,
• 26:07
  Bama, Ohio State and Texas, I think, you know, you're looking
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  at lines between any of them from minus three to minus seven and a half.
• 26:15
  Penn State at number six, and I can't believe I just said that,
• 26:18
  but you look at what and I know Ole Miss ran them off the
• 26:21
  field. Penn State in their big games against Ohio State in Michigan again didn't
• 26:25
  show up. Penn State continues to do it the right way. They're sitting
• 26:30
  at number six. Ole Miss right behind them at number seven, and I
• 26:33
  know ole Mission State, but just work with me here. This is analytics
• 26:37
  driving this whole deal. For twenty twenty four, they're right there with Penn
• 26:41
  State, but ole Miss comes in at number seven, and I think when
• 26:42
  you start looking at the numbers, ole Miss is gonna fall anywhere from nine,
• 26:45
  eight, seven and six somewhere in there, six to nine on most
• 26:48
  people's top tens. Florida State at number eight one twenty one point six seven
• 26:53
  they're again working the transfer portal. When you look at what they've done,
• 26:56
  uh dju Angilay is going to be the quarterback there. They have done a
• 27:00
  great job again. Mike Norvelle, he understands a lot like Lane Kiff and
• 27:06
  how to navigate the system and how to you know it's it's a broken system.
• 27:10
  It's not the best system. But he does Notre Dame at number nine.
• 27:14
  There's Notre Dame. Chunk checks in at number nine. They get Riley
• 27:17
  Leonard moves over from Duke as their quarterback. They have quietly Marcus Freeman done
• 27:22
  a good job in the transfer portal. And I say quietly, because you
• 27:25
  take a school like Notre Dame with high academic standards, that's going to be
• 27:27
  higher than most people. That's going to be right there with your Duke's,
• 27:30
  Carolina's, Vanderbilts, Stanfords of the world, Northwesterns of the world. It's
• 27:36
  a higher academic standard to get in to a Notre Dame. But they're sitting
• 27:40
  there in Missouri at number ten. This Missouri thing is a real thing.
• 27:41
  Now what does that look like in a again, a big another season.
• 27:48
  Can they stay healthy? I think Old Misses, you know, if I'll
• 27:49
  miss the Missouri played today, I think Old miss is probably a four to
• 27:53
  five point favorite in the ballgame. But that's my way too early. Top
• 27:57
  ten. Just kind of looking at this, there's a lot long way to
• 28:00
  go to try to piece this thing together from a sports analytics side of things.
• 28:07
  Also, again Ross Buyorke to Texas A, I mean from Texas A
• 28:10
  and m to Ohio State. And then Jim Harbaugh has interviewed with two teams
• 28:17
  now this week, the Atlanta Falcons and the San Diego Chargers six ho one
• 28:21
  eight nine seven one zero five nine. That is the Malon Roofing call of
• 28:25
  line. Let me go over here to the NFL tab and look and see.
• 28:27
  You know when you start looking at the rest of the teams and we'll
• 28:30
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  builder as you move forward. All right, so you've got four ball games
• 28:42
  coming up this weekend. You got two on Saturday, and you got two
• 28:45
  on Sunday. You got the Houston Texans, almost said Houston, Houston.
• 28:51
  You got the Houston Texans at Baltimore. Raven's nine and a half point favorite
• 28:55
  against the Texans. This is a three thirty kick on Saturday. We'll visit
• 28:57
  with Ryefield as far as tomorrow to get his thought. It's Keith Hardy on
• 29:00
  Friday, Chris Landry coming up at four o'clock. Forty three and a half
• 29:04
  is the total for the Taxans and the Ravens. And again, the Ravens
• 29:07
  looked really really strong throughout the regular season. They've got rest to their healthy.
• 29:12
  We'll see if they can get back on that, you know, kind
• 29:15
  of that role that they run when they took everybody out. Packers at the
• 29:19
  forty nine Ers again nine and a half point favorite, forty nine Ers.
• 29:23
  You get a Packers team that really just did what they wanted against the Dallas
• 29:26
  Cowboys. That total is at fifty and a half. Then on Sunday you've
• 29:30
  got the Detroit Lions hosting the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Lions a six and a
• 29:36
  half point favorite and the totals at forty and a half. And then the
• 29:40
  Sunday afternoon game five point thirty kick that you got the Chiefs at the Bills.
• 29:44
  First time you may have seen this stat if not first time in Patrick
• 29:47
  Mahomes's life as an NFL quarterback that he will play a playoff game on the
• 29:49
  road. So the Chiefs head to the Bills Bills minus three total forty five
• 29:56
  and a half. And if I'm going here, give me the Ravens,
• 30:00
  the Texans likely cover, give me the forty nine Ers, and I think
• 30:02
  they probably cover. Give me the Lions, but the Bucks cover and give
• 30:06
  me the Bills. Can't believe I just said that, Yeah, give me
• 30:10
  the Bills and they cover. That's what. That's what I think is probably
• 30:12
  gonna happen. But we'll get more on that as we move along. Also,
• 30:18
  we'll be out of here today at five point thirty four Mississippi State basketball.
• 30:22
  And let me pull up over here, pull this real quick. Missippi
• 30:29
  State basketball out here at five thirty for pregame tip at six. You know,
• 30:33
  when you go over here to the Southeastern Conference and look at the basketball
• 30:37
  schedule for today, you got three games on tap today. Mississippi State at
• 30:41
  number eight Kentucky. That game will be televised on ESPN two. We'll have
• 30:45
  it right here on the zone one oh five nine ESPN Radio. That's at
• 30:52
  six o'clock. You got number twenty two old mess taken on LSU on the
• 30:55
  road down in Baton Rouge. Excuse me. And you got all Olburn number
• 31:00
  thirteen at Vanderbilt coming up uh tonight as well. So you got three games
• 31:04
  tonight on a Wednesday night, and then coming up Saturday, you got the
• 31:10
  full slate. South Carolina's at Arkansas that's on the SEC network, Alabama at
• 31:15
  number six, Tennessee, Vanderbilt at Mississippi State, Texas A and m at
• 31:18
  LSU. Georgia at Kentucky, Florida at Missouri and Ole, miss As at
• 31:25
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  college football and the National Football League. We're down on the Mississippi Gulf Coast
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  today. UH for the MAC and the m TRIPLEA Athletics Administrators Associations Conference courtesy
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  week as they have done so much for the state of Mississippi, and you
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  look around what they've done collegiately, wise sports facilities, Auburn at Omwamba Community
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  College, also the University of Mississippi at Ole, miss Middle Tennessee, Jackson
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  State, Heines Community College, Baylor University. I mean they have been everywhere
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  and continue to do so much, uh, not only for colleges and universities,
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  but for high schools and for playing surfaces and things in the UH,
• 33:07
  in the in the college world as as well. Be Eve anything on your
• 33:10
  end we need to get to before I move on. Yeah, let's get
• 33:14
  to some texts. First, Gate or Matt says. Rumor has it Scott
• 33:19
  Strickland is taking the A and M A D job. That's not good for
• 33:22
  Billy. No, if Scott Strickland, that would be interesting. If Scott
• 33:27
  Strickland left Florida to follow ros Byork, following the footsteps of ross byorke Res
• 33:32
  Dog says, nobody fails upward like it's b York. But I know this
• 33:40
  is not a typo. He did it on purpose, he said, But
• 33:43
  Dork, I have heard other people say that before and I don't. I
• 33:47
  mean, look, I can't fault the guy. I mean, obviously,
• 33:50
  like I said, he interviews well. Miko. Nick's being hired at Auburn
• 33:55
  spells trouble for these Mississippi schools being able to keep in state recruits. He's
• 34:00
  a great recruiter that's landed some big names in the past at Ole, miss
• 34:05
  He's one hundred percent correct. I mean, I mean, and look,
• 34:07
  Hugh Freeze is no dummy. I mean, he knows the talent that's in
• 34:12
  this state. Auburn has recruited in the state for years. Uh, they'll
• 34:15
  go grab you know, one, two, three guys out of the state
• 34:17
  and take them over there. And that just gives Huphreese in Auburn a different
• 34:22
  inn in the state. Moving forward, possum Nick, Joe says, thank
• 34:27
  you for doing a show today. Paul Fine Beam nauseates me, not nauseates
• 34:32
  me. Good God, that is Wimberle need the crap out of that one
• 34:37
  you did, Paul finding me Paul Fine Beam nauseates me. Yes, I
• 34:43
  said Beam on purpose. Joe. I'm glad we're here. I am glad
• 34:47
  to be back on Uh Jeremy be Jake. I finally found the source of
• 34:53
  the decline of MSU sports, especially baseball. Oh no, it's these State
• 35:00
  farm commercials with Jake Maingum saying he's a former bulldog. Come on, always
• 35:07
  a dog is eight? Is that a problem? Like if a sports guy
• 35:13
  says I'm a former because you like you're supposed to be once once and forever
• 35:16
  for all right, Yeah, it could be a problem. They want to
• 35:20
  recut that, and Rett hang on computer went nonsense, okay, etcetera says,
• 35:30
  does it matter that Hugh Freese is probably the best recruiter in the state
• 35:35
  of Alabama? Are out of state kids gonna cry war Eagle in a state
• 35:40
  without too much else? How long before the state of Alabama is home to
• 35:45
  a national champion again, Well, Hugh Freeze could be the best recruiter in
• 35:50
  that state. And don't think that you know Hugh Freeze. I know he
• 35:53
  loves Nick Saban. He spoke openly about how much him and his wife,
• 35:58
  you know, have a relationship with good relationship up and Nick Sabing and mis
• 36:00
  terry. But I guarantee you and I don't blame him. He's probably smiling
• 36:04
  that Nick Saban is no longer in that state as far as the football coach
• 36:07
  is concerned, how long until another champion in the state. I mean,
• 36:10
  look, things go right, Alabama could get one next year, but I
• 36:14
  still think it's gonna be a few years and one more. Here from Pug,
• 36:20
  he says, the delusion in Tee Town is heavy today. What are
• 36:22
  your thoughts on Bama coming back down to earth a bit? Have a wonderful
• 36:27
  day, thanks bug. Now define coming back down to earth as you as
• 36:32
  you move forward? Here is it? I mean back in the pack?
• 36:36
  I mean Alabama. I don't think it's gonna go on this run of Nick
• 36:38
  Saban championships, you know, three out of the next four, two out
• 36:42
  of the next four, or two out of the next three at least.
• 36:45
  I don't think that they're going to do that. But you know, back
• 36:47
  in the pack, it's gonna be tough. I mean for Alabama fans,
• 36:52
  I really think it is. It's gonna be You're gonna have to kind of
• 36:53
  come down off a kind of a detox, a college football detox, if
• 36:58
  that's if that's fair for that football program. Let's see here a lot going
• 37:05
  on in the National Football League. Alabama receives reality check after mass transfer portal
• 37:13
  exodus as rivals reveal they're paying yet and see this is kind of the big
• 37:15
  story. Nobody's really A lot of people aren't talking about today. That's why
• 37:19
  I was talking about it after looking at everything yesterday. The Alabama football program
• 37:23
  has been on top of the world over the last two decades. This kind
• 37:25
  of goes in the line with Retz text. After an unprecedented run by Nick
• 37:30
  Saban in his seventeen years run on the sidelines, the tied one at least
• 37:35
  ten games in all but one, but a new era's quickly approaching. Saban,
• 37:38
  of course, announced his retirement. While rivals reveled in the departure,
• 37:42
  Alabama supporters felt that if their hero had passed away, the university did its
• 37:47
  best to move on. Of course, Kaylen Debuer or Deboor as really really
• 37:52
  good. He'll do fine at Alabama. But the transfer portal nil dominate the
• 37:57
  new college football landscape, and now Alabama is on the other side. After
• 38:00
  reaping the benefits in the past, landing major prospects like Jamiir Gibbs and Jamison
• 38:07
  Williams. And remember this too, now, Nick Saban did a really good
• 38:10
  job working the portal early Jamiir Gibbs comes in from Georgia Tech, has a
• 38:16
  really good year off to the National Football League. Jamison Williams same way comes
• 38:22
  in, blows up. They just didn't get those guys over the last little
• 38:25
  bit. And as Marcello reports, twenty three players from Alabama and the Too
• 38:30
  Deep have entered the transfer portal or the NFL drafts. So, I mean
• 38:35
  you're talking about the too deep has you know that's what's happened for Alabama over
• 38:39
  the last over this year. So this is really going to this is really
• 38:45
  gonna hurt Alabama. Now does that mean that's going to push them back to
• 38:47
  six wins or seven wins? No? But as bud Ellie report's fine,
• 38:51
  one more, but I do have other stuff to do that it can't keep
• 38:53
  updating this guess eventually I'll run out of guys to cross off. So if
• 38:57
  you look he went through the too deep, there's just not a lot we're
• 39:00
  talking about the too deep. That's the first eleven and the second eleven.
• 39:05
  And when you look at it on the too deep in lines through everybody.
• 39:08
  The Alabama football team you saw this year that just played against Michigan is not
• 39:14
  going to be even close to the Alabama football team that plays here in twenty
• 39:19
  twenty four six one eighty eight to five three seven, seven six. If
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• 39:27
  four thirty Steve Robertson of Finot fifteen. We are going to pick up some
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  guests here at the m Triple A Athletic Administrators Association Conference will be here today
• 39:35
  and tomorrow, and of course we are brought to you by CDFL Sports Architects
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  Jackson and in Birmingham, covering the state of Mississippi, in the state of
• 39:49
  Alabama, and of course the Southern region doing a great job with sports facilities
• 39:52
  as well. A couple more notes here real quickly we will talk about this.
• 39:57
  Mike McCarthy's got a meeting coming up with Jerry Jones, and a lot
• 40:00
  are saying it's going to be a sales pitch to keep his job. Also,
• 40:04
  Kirby Smart flexes Georgia's wealth by pulling up to Alabama decommits high school and
• 40:08
  a helicopter, and Kentucky, the state of invites aliens to visit the state
• 40:15
  with a message beamed into space. I'm not sure what they're trying to do
• 40:19
  there on the Bluegrass State. And then we've got several other things we want
• 40:23
  to get into as we move along. Where was that Yeah, Guinness Book
• 40:32
  of World's Records investigation after World's Oldest Dog is now said to be a fraud.
• 40:38
  And of course we'll get more into this Ross Bork, New York story
• 40:42
  headed to Ohio State, and I do want to get more into this Alabama
• 40:45
  story. What's next for Alabama? Examining what goes right and possibly wrong in
• 40:52
  regards to following the legend, and several great examples here to get into from
• 40:57
  when you look at what happened after Florida State and Bobby Bowden, also l
• 41:00
  s u Les Miles, i'my Hurricanes, Butch Davis, Slarry Cocher Era,
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  Chris, Welcome in sar. How are you tick? Doing good? How
• 42:43
  about you good? I appreciate you moving around. I know Monday we had
• 42:45
  some playoff football. Yesterday we were for excuse me, frozen solid here in
• 42:49
  the state of Mississippi. So back at it today. Let's start college and
• 42:52
  of course we'll talk National Football League. I wanted to get your thoughts.
• 42:57
  We hadn't had a chance to really talk about it. At Kaylyn de Boor,
• 42:59
  Washington head football coach. He is now taking over for Nick Saban,
• 43:04
  and I've got several thoughts on this as far as the roster is concerned.
• 43:07
  But your your initial thoughts when you saw the Boor and then now what he's
• 43:09
  doing putting together his staff, pulling in a young coach from a sunbout out
• 43:14
  of South Alabama and a young coach from Buffalo out of the MAC Well,
• 43:19
  I know he's uh, you know, he's a very good coach and he's
• 43:22
  someone that is that Greg Byrne was familiar with Nick Saban last year had done
• 43:30
  a lot of research on particularly what Washington was doing on offenses. He was
• 43:36
  trying to hire Ryan Grubb, their offensive coordinator, before he ended up hiring
• 43:40
  Tommy Reeves. Ryan decided to stay at Washington, and ironically he's going to
• 43:45
  be there now and is part of the staff to replace him. But a
• 43:51
  good young coach. Obviously, Calnton around a while write that of personality,
• 43:55
  I think Tim Wtel. You know, I've always said, everyone always asked
• 44:00
  who's going to replace them? And how's it going to be. Look,
• 44:04
  it's a challenge. It's a challenge right now. I'm trying to keep that
• 44:07
  roster together. Is it's not going well. Everybody's coming after the players,
• 44:13
  and it'll be interesting to see. But you know, he's a good coach.
• 44:16
  We'll see how well he does and how well it works out. I
• 44:21
  just don't know until until the time comes. Chris Landry on your radio Wednesday
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  Yeah, yesterday, I was kind of coming through some transfer portal numbers
• 44:31
  and you know we've talked transfer portal, but we talk at it. Oh
• 44:35
  well, you know, Kayleb Williams Guss from Oklahoma to USC or you know
• 44:38
  at Florida State and Mike Norvell. They've done a great job in the transfer
• 44:40
  portal. But when you really look at what you're talking about, some deficiencies
• 44:44
  in the portal. This started last year. And this is unofficial numbers.
• 44:47
  I don't have it right in front of me, but Alabama last year like
• 44:50
  eight guys coming in twenty three going out. This year, four guys coming
• 44:54
  in twenty one going out, Chris. Those numbers are big, big numbers,
• 45:00
  even though Alabama finishes one to two every year. And recruiting, I
• 45:04
  think we started to see some of that take effect this year. You look
• 45:07
  at the National semifinal game against Michigan. I don't know that they had anybody
• 45:10
  else to replace the center that was watching the snaps or they would have played
• 45:13
  them. You look at Auburn really being able to be competitive in some other
• 45:16
  games, and you could say the same about Georgia. We don't know yet,
• 45:21
  but it looks like I mean, these transfer portal numbers, when you're
• 45:23
  upside down like that, it's going to make a difference. Well, it
• 45:27
  will, and I think the big thing that has had an impact on some
• 45:30
  places like the Alabama in recent years. We kind of touched on it last
• 45:35
  time. Was the depth. It's the fact that you know, it's it's
• 45:39
  maybe not you know, the frontline guys that are playing weren't leaving. It's
• 45:45
  the guys that maybe weren't getting as much playing time. Will those guys get
• 45:50
  poached and they go somewhere else? Now, those are guys in some cases
• 45:54
  you've maybe put one two years into developing and then they're gone. And then
• 46:00
  you've got a gap behind those guys. So when you've got younger guys that
• 46:05
  are not quite ready to play, and then you always they're going to be
• 46:08
  certain guys that just don't pan out for whatever reason in your recruiting class.
• 46:14
  And yeah, I think it has effective doubts. I think the biggest thing
• 46:16
  though, is what's different this year is the quality of guys. I mean,
• 46:22
  they're not losing backups now, they're losing starters. In fact, if
• 46:25
  you look at the starting you know, take the twenty two type guys,
• 46:31
  just twenty one of those guys off of last year's roster are gone either to
• 46:37
  the portal or you know, going to the drafts, graduating or or quite
• 46:42
  for the draft. So they're losing not just depths, they're losing the quality
• 46:45
  starters. This is the other thing that happens when you have a coaching hire.
• 46:51
  That happens at this point where you've got a thirty day window for those
• 46:55
  guys that can transfer. Those you know, everybody's portal picking are been picked
• 47:01
  clean. Now you know, like Alabama can go get guys, but you
• 47:07
  know, the guys that are there are not of the quality to replace the
• 47:12
  guys that they're losing because they're not open for you know, they're not enough
• 47:16
  of those guys the only guys that are available with the guys on their roster,
• 47:21
  and if they're not keeping them, it's having an effect. And you
• 47:23
  know programs like Texas, Georgia, Florida State, they have really cleaned up
• 47:29
  on a number of quality players off Alabama provis excuse me. And yet you
• 47:34
  know, you bring up Florida State and you know, you look at what
• 47:36
  happened to Florida State obviously, and we've gone back and forth and this will,
• 47:38
  but I guess always kind of be a debate. Should Florida State have
• 47:40
  been in over Alabama. I think the committee probably got it right, But
• 47:45
  you look at Mike Norvale gets signed to an extension regardless of what happens with
• 47:47
  the NCAA, a ten year deal. They have put in more work.
• 47:52
  We saw what the transfer portal did for them last year this past season with
• 47:55
  some of the big play, explosive receivers. Now you look with a quarterback
• 47:59
  in in dj u Agila Lay from Oregon State formerly of Clemson, and what
• 48:04
  they're doing in the portal. You look at what Texas is doing in the
• 48:07
  portal, Oregon's doing in the portal, ole Miss is doing in the portal
• 48:09
  where you know, that's the other side of it. You've got programs with
• 48:14
  coaches that are extremely aggressive with it. There's no question I think it is
• 48:20
  in the portal. We can't talk about the portal one. Why are they
• 48:23
  doing well? Well? It all still corresponds with the collectives and what you're
• 48:28
  willing to do. And EMA is putting a lot of money into collection of
• 48:30
  Texus and you mentioned someone Miami you know has done so. Yeah, it's
• 48:37
  teams like that are being very aggressive because you know, if you have the
• 48:42
  resources to do it, if you can't get the elite players in recruiting,
• 48:47
  and you get guys that have been developed pretty well. Uh, bringing them
• 48:52
  in is another way to go ahead and not just fill gaps but maybe help
• 48:55
  you. Look, if you lose guys or you make mistakes in recruit then
• 49:00
  you have gaps in your class, and so you got to fill in that.
• 49:04
  You know that twenty five each year, you know you lose eight or
• 49:07
  nine guys out of that year, out of the twenty five, Well you've
• 49:12
  got to replace that or else you're gonna go You're gonna have a year where
• 49:15
  you are just really bad. So you've got to fill in you know,
• 49:19
  six, seven, eight guys maybe in each class if you lose that many.
• 49:22
  So I still don't think that's the way to build a program, but
• 49:28
  it is a way to sufflement. Georgia doesn't do a whole lot of it,
• 49:31
  but they get some key guys. They don't lose many guys. So
• 49:35
  if you don't lose a lot of guys, and you recruit well and you
• 49:37
  develop well and you don't lose them, then you can only then you only
• 49:42
  have to add a few guys here there. But the ones that are trying
• 49:45
  to build a program and maybe have lost certain guys or for whatever reason,
• 49:51
  or not able to get elite recruiting classes. They are doing it. You
• 49:54
  mentioned Old Missus doing that. Florida State's doing that. Just to to mention,
• 49:59
  Texas is gonna tremendous dabb and recruiting. So they're just supplementing A and
• 50:02
  M got a new coach coming in. Look at LSU. We talked about
• 50:07
  Brian Kelly at LSU for the first two years, heavy in the portal.
• 50:10
  Doesn't want to really do that because she's trying to build through recruiting, but
• 50:15
  the roster left picked clean by when ed Orgeron left, it necessitates that.
• 50:22
  So I think this is going to be kind of a regular cycle, particularly
• 50:27
  if you lose a coach. You lose a coach. In this case,
• 50:30
  as we're talking about with Alabama, it's more about man, let's go in.
• 50:35
  The focus are literally circling now because they know they're a lot of good
• 50:38
  players and they know there's uncertainty, and they're getting a lot of those guys
• 50:43
  to say you'll come here because, let's call it what it is, those
• 50:47
  guys, in large part most kids they go to a school because of the
• 50:52
  head coach, and now they're going for with the head coach and with the
• 50:58
  staff and with the nil and can do for them, and if they can
• 51:01
  get better opportunities, they're gone. And in this case, they're looking at
• 51:06
  opportunities where they've got maybe more opportunity and more money, and that's why they're
• 51:10
  they're losing a lot of guys. So it is an interesting time, no
• 51:15
  question about it, Chris. Where we take our first time, I don't
• 51:17
  want to ask you about Kayleb Williams. From the NFL scouting side of things,
• 51:22
  we see and we saw this with somewhat with Eli Manning and some other
• 51:24
  guys as well, but Kayla Williams last year, his father came out and
• 51:28
  said, hey, you know, Carl Williams said, hey, look we're
• 51:30
  not going to go play for Arizona. Then we're not going to go play
• 51:34
  for Chicago here recently, and we want a percentage of an ownership. Blah
• 51:37
  blah blah. You know, down the road, a lot of demands.
• 51:38
  And you look at it, as you know, Joe public says, wow,
• 51:42
  that's that's pretty brazen. But now obviously he commits. He says,
• 51:45
  hey, I'm going to the NFL. I'm gonna go play for whoever.
• 51:49
  How does that those types of messaging resonate with front office people in the National
• 51:53
  Football League not very good. And I think it's just a matter of not
• 52:00
  just that, but if you look at the history with Caleb Williams, it's
• 52:05
  it's a lot of me, it's a lot of eye and I just I
• 52:08
  think it's the buyer. Beware. As talented as he is, you know,
• 52:13
  he may very well go number one. I've seen a lot of guys
• 52:16
  that are of that ill that never quite achieve up to their physical capabilities because
• 52:23
  of the fact that there's a lot of you know, me, me,
• 52:27
  me, Now. Look, I mean I know the Manning family very well
• 52:30
  and I wasn't all that impressed with how they handled it. But you know,
• 52:36
  that wasn't really who Eli was meaning. Once he got to campus,
• 52:39
  he was gonna work hard, he was going to do the things the right
• 52:43
  way. You know, when when when when he got into the NFL,
• 52:45
  of you know, for that is what I meant to say. So,
• 52:50
  you know, even though he looks, you know, Archie knew that the
• 52:54
  Fano family wasn't wasn't the best place for him, or at least in his
• 52:59
  minding, he had the chops to be able to maybe work things, and
• 53:02
  he went to in his eyes, a better play. But it wasn't you
• 53:07
  know, you didn't have any problems with Ei. In fact, there's just
• 53:09
  the opposite. Once he went went with the Giants, who was the ultimate
• 53:13
  team guy. I worry about this guy. I worry about a number of
• 53:15
  these guys that are just me, me, me I I. I've seen
• 53:19
  a lot of them over the years, Johnny Manziel, Kyler Murray, JaMarcus
• 53:25
  Russell, Matt Lionerd. I mean, you can go on and on and
• 53:30
  on the guys that were taken very very high that were not really good team
• 53:35
  guys or you know, hard workers. And I wonder, I just wonder
• 53:40
  if this guy might be another one we'll see. I don't want to jump
• 53:45
  to that yet, but it just sent up a red flag for me.
• 53:47
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  find him on Exit Landry Football. All right, Chris Jim Harball has interviewed
• 55:06
  twice now, once with the Atlanta Falcons, another time with the San Diego
• 55:08
  Chargers. And you know in the quote unquote negotiations with Michigan paraphrasing, wants
• 55:15
  immunity from anything that has happened. Is it just a foregone conclusion? Harball's
• 55:19
  gone to the NFL. It's just where I think. I don't I would
• 55:25
  not go as strong as that, I know everybody else is. I think
• 55:30
  he's gonna end up in the NFL. But you know, if if he
• 55:35
  gets what he wants at Michigan, and and I know people think it's like
• 55:39
  everything is done and it's written, it's it's not. It's you know,
• 55:45
  he's doing as much interviewing of the different teams as they're interviewing him. He
• 55:52
  finds the right situation he's comfortable with. Yes, he's gone, but if
• 55:57
  he doesn't, let's say they're only that that kind of interests him. But
• 56:01
  it's he's still got some issues. I don't think it's a done deal.
• 56:06
  I just think in the end it's probably gonna be that getting what he wants.
• 56:10
  But I do think the language in the Michigan deal is being discussed because
• 56:15
  he's got the leverage to do that. They may say no, and you
• 56:19
  know, he's in a situation where maybe he has to take less than an
• 56:22
  ideal situation in the NFL, you know what I mean. I think it's
• 56:25
  all part of negotiation. I think he's probably gone, but I don't think
• 56:30
  it's a definite thing, because you know, I've been through enough of these
• 56:35
  coaching search stuff that sometimes you think things are a perfect match and it just
• 56:40
  doesn't work out for whatever reason. So I would say he's gone, But
• 56:46
  I don't think that's it's a definite can with Michigan. I mean you you
• 56:52
  would think that they're doing their due diligence, I mean, be it,
• 56:54
  you know, whatever candidate that might replace Jim Harball. You think that,
• 57:00
  you know, from Brian Kelly to Sharon Moore, the offensive coordinator, they've
• 57:04
  already kind of done their homework on this, hadn't they. Yeah, Brian
• 57:07
  Kelly's not in the mix. Shiron Moore is going to be the guy.
• 57:12
  And so I think that's why their you know, their plan is going to
• 57:15
  be real simple. Now that's another scenario and it one that might they may
• 57:22
  not be And I'm if he does leave, I'm very curious to see because
• 57:25
  again, just for people to understand, I know you do. But so
• 57:30
  that would open up a thirty day window for those players. Yeah, now
• 57:34
  it complicates it because school has started on semester schools, so you know,
• 57:40
  but you've got a thirty day windle. But that only makes Sharon Moore,
• 57:45
  who's likely going to get the job anyway, all the more likely that he's
• 57:51
  going to get it. So I mean, if I were going to forecast
• 57:54
  who's going to get that job, if my Jim Lee's, I would put
• 57:59
  it as high as an eight percent that it's going to be Sharon Moore.
• 58:04
  That's going to be the best thing for them because of the job he's done
• 58:08
  and the creating of the continuity in that continuity is fine, but he's got
• 58:14
  to be the guy long term. And I think in that ironic that the
• 58:19
  suspensions and that everything that's going to likely be the reason why he leaves Michigan
• 58:25
  is the very reason why I think all the Michigan powers that be and the
• 58:30
  fan base and all the important people that are decision makers. I mean,
• 58:35
  if those things didn't happen to Jim Harbaugh, they wouldn't have nearly as much
• 58:38
  confidence in Taron Moore because the way he's led the team in Jim's absence has
• 58:45
  been exemplary. And I know people made fun of the prime and all that
• 58:49
  that wasn't maybe, but you know that. So I think that situation is
• 58:53
  set and the only thing would be maybe a couple of staff members might leave
• 59:00
  shift to this weekend NFL playoffs. You got four games. Baltimore taking on
• 59:04
  Houston, they're big favorite. San Francisco is a big favorite of the Packers.
• 59:07
  And then of course you got the Lions Bucks and Chiefs Bills. That
• 59:12
  Chiefs Bills game should be a four quarterball game. The Lions Bucks should be
• 59:15
  pretty close on Saturday, though. The two heavy hitters, the Ravens and
• 59:21
  the forty nine ers, any chance that they might get upset of me?
• 59:22
  You look at what Green Bay was able to do to Dallas. I think
• 59:25
  that shocked everybody. Yeah, I think a lot of people were surprised.
• 59:30
  Although you look at Matt Lafleur, Matt Lafloor, Mike Lafloor, Mike McDaniel,
• 59:35
  all of those guys were with Dan Quinn in Atlanta. Matt lafort knew
• 59:43
  how to attack Dallas's defense, Dan's defense, and look, call it what
• 59:49
  it is. You can run the football on Dallas. They're a front running
• 59:52
  type of team that's got to play with the lead, and green Bay did
• 59:55
  it. Are they going to be able to do that against San Francisco?
• 59:58
  That's going to be a different challenge, a bigger challenge, no doubt,
• 1:00:02
  but I do think that their receivers can get open if they can protect Love
• 1:00:07
  well, who's played phenomenally well. Green Bay's receivers, Jordan Love played very
• 1:00:15
  very well defensively, They've not been all that good for much of this year.
• 1:00:20
  Obviously, with the lead, it was completely different last week, played
• 1:00:22
  well, but I do think they've probably got a better chance. I'm a
• 1:00:27
  little bit surprised that the line was as high as it was. I think
• 1:00:30
  they'll keep it closer, but I certainly think San Francisco's got the big edge.
• 1:00:35
  And look, I think Houston's great game last week, but that's a
• 1:00:38
  defense that's built on speed and playing inside against Cleveland last week, utilizing that
• 1:00:45
  speed and the proud advantage is something that's gonna not be there when they play
• 1:00:50
  on the road in Baltimore against a very two dimensional offense that can run and
• 1:00:57
  pass with equal effectiveness, and obviously a great defense in very good special teams.
• 1:01:01
  That's going to be difficult. But see de strad is playing well.
• 1:01:06
  They're playing with house money, so I think they might make this game a
• 1:01:09
  little bit closer than people think. But I do like the two to one
• 1:01:13
  seeds on Patter and Chiefs going to Buffalo on Sunday afternoon and the Bills a
• 1:01:19
  three point favorite if for going by just looking at Vegas. Patrick Mahomes first
• 1:01:22
  time on the road in the playoffs, which is wild to even think about.
• 1:01:25
  Who do you like in this game to get to the AFC Championship.
• 1:01:30
  I like Kansas City because Buffalo is just banged up on defense, you know,
• 1:01:36
  I think to me, that's the biggest concern I would have. I
• 1:01:40
  certainly like the fact for Buffalo that they're at home. Josh Allen is playing
• 1:01:45
  well. I think Joe Brady's done a phenomenal job with them getting the running
• 1:01:49
  game go. I think unless there's a Tonnel win. I know we've got
• 1:01:53
  to be on weather Watch again in Buffalo this week, but it's all about
• 1:01:58
  the win you can throw in. Unless there's a lot of win, I
• 1:02:02
  think we're going to see both quarterbacks throw it and throw it well, and
• 1:02:07
  I think it should be a lot of fun. I think Kansas City is
• 1:02:09
  just more sound on defense and healthier on defense. Buffalo at home, so
• 1:02:15
  I think that neutralizes some of that. I think it should be a great
• 1:02:19
  one, but I you know, push comes to shove. I'm not going
• 1:02:21
  to be surprised either way, but I think Kansas City is better going in.
• 1:02:24
  And you know, I do think that Tampa has got a chance to
• 1:02:30
  have some success against Detroit moving the football. I think Detroit's defense is vulnerable,
• 1:02:37
  and I think Detroit wins it. But I'm wondering, and I don't
• 1:02:40
  think this is going to be the case, but I'm wondering emotionally. That
• 1:02:45
  was such a huge game last week. Is I know you watched it and
• 1:02:47
  thought, that's just such a big lift for them. That's the second,
• 1:02:52
  the second playoff win for that organization in sixty eight years. It almost is
• 1:02:59
  like that was their Fooert Ball last week, and there's so much more for
• 1:03:01
  this team. This is a game they should win. I think the offense
• 1:03:05
  will be too much, but they're gonna have to protect Jared Golf. They're
• 1:03:08
  gonna see a heavy blitch pressure from Todd Bowles, and if you prints Golf,
• 1:03:13
  it's a lot different games. So I think Detroit has to neutralize it
• 1:03:16
  again with the running game. So I do like Detroit, but I think
• 1:03:22
  Tampa has got a much better chance than I would have ever thought. Maybe
• 1:03:25
  going two to three weeks ago and then not because I think Tampa is all
• 1:03:30
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• 1:03:34
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• 1:05:17
  he steps away to the NFL, which it looks more and more likely,
• 1:05:21
  who's going to be the next head football coach at Michigan? And I do
• 1:05:25
  agree with with Chris Sharon Moore, Michigan offensive coordinator. I mean, you
• 1:05:30
  look at like, hey, you got to do an on site interview.
• 1:05:32
  He did that this year and he was four to o as acting head football
• 1:05:38
  coach. And you know, when you're talking about for a program that was
• 1:05:41
  a contender for the title, you know, in the season before they obviously
• 1:05:44
  won it going on the road playing Penn State. I mean everything that he
• 1:05:48
  did, I mean four and oh is an acting head coach. He was
• 1:05:53
  the guy pushing all the buttons, you know, pulling all the levers for
• 1:05:56
  Michigan and did a great job doing it. I think he would be the
• 1:05:59
  guy now. Obviously, Blake Krum, regardless of who's the head coach there,
• 1:06:02
  off to the National Football League. JJ McCarthy off to the National Football
• 1:06:08
  League. So there's a lot going on there with the Michigan I mean,
• 1:06:11
  I don't think that they're going to be nearly as good as they were this
• 1:06:14
  past year. That that means, so, you know, possibly a ten
• 1:06:15
  win team. Other guys that could be in the running for a Michigan head
• 1:06:19
  coach coaching Brian Kelly at LSU. Kelly, you know, Chris said it's
• 1:06:25
  not going to be Kelly, but his name has come open and up for
• 1:06:28
  you know a lot of this. Kelly hit the jackpot when he left,
• 1:06:31
  you know, went from Notre Dame to LSU. Excuse me, think of
• 1:06:34
  Michigan having a bigger jackpot. Excuse me. Michigan obviously has the resources to
• 1:06:39
  attract Kelly if they sow and indeed want to do so. Eleven point five
• 1:06:43
  million dollars per year is what Harball was in line for. I don't know
• 1:06:46
  that he's going to get that. Lance Leopold, who's a guy that has
• 1:06:51
  been a hot name. Kansas head football coach. Leopold couldn't be any hotter
• 1:06:57
  than he is with his fourth season going to the Jayhawks formerly I believe of
• 1:07:01
  Buffalo, but a lot has happened for him in a positive manner. Jesse
• 1:07:06
  mentor Michigan defensive coordinator, could be in line for that job as well.
• 1:07:11
  He is another guy on that staff that could be ready to go. You
• 1:07:15
  know, Matt Campbell's name keeps coming up for some of these. I just
• 1:07:19
  Iowa State head coach. I don't know that he has the same luster that
• 1:07:25
  he had five six years ago. Campbell's starr has dimmed eighteen and twenty in
• 1:07:30
  the last three seasons with the Cyclones. If you remember, at one point
• 1:07:33
  he was being mentioned as a possible replacement at Ohio State and some other places
• 1:07:39
  as well. He was in the mix at least my son for the Washington
• 1:07:44
  job. But I don't know. I don't think that he is a guy.
• 1:07:48
  Another other names that could be considered Chris climb in Kansas State, Mike
• 1:07:53
  Hart Michigan running backs coach, Todd Monkin Baltimore Ravens offensive coordinator. But I
• 1:07:59
  think at the end of the day, if Jim Harball walks away to the
• 1:08:03
  NFL, leaves it for the NFL, I think it's Sharon Moore's job,
• 1:08:08
  and I think that he's a guy that again the players know Chris reference.
• 1:08:12
  The transfer portal window would open at Michigan, but it would be a little
• 1:08:15
  more difficult because they are back in school, so to speak, so it'd
• 1:08:18
  be a little more difficult for them to players to opt out. And then,
• 1:08:21
  of course all the players know Sharon Moore and know about the job that
• 1:08:25
  he did because they were there in the four game absence of Jim Harball six
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  er one eight nine seven one zero five nine. That is the Malone roofing
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  CALLI line. When you look back at coaches and you know, you start
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  asking yourself, you know, just what kind of pressure is Kaitlyn de borr
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  under and I think we all know, and it's it's immense pressure. But
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  you go back to Florida State when Bobby Baden was there. Florida State is
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  what it is today because of Bobby Balden, the Hall of Famer turned the
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  Seminoles into a blue blood of sorts during his incredible thirty four seasons two national
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  titles at Florida State winning program in the nineteen nineties, the Seminoles also finished
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  in the top five of the AP Pole fourteen straight years. Think about that,
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  fourteen straight years. Time five won nine consecutive ACC titles and I think
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  when you look back at Jimbo Fisher in the run he had, there was
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  a lot of misses. Yes, he won a national title with Jamis Winston
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  in twenty thirteen, but nothing like what Bobby Balden was able to do.
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  Then the program regressed in the mid two thousands. The Seminoles lost four games
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  or more in seven of the final nine seasons, culminating in the alst of
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  two thousand and nine. Jimbo Fisher was the offensive coordinator at the time.
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  He was elevated to head coach. Led FSU to its first ten win seasons
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  season in seven years in year one. Then he led the Noles to a
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  national title in twenty three. A playoff appearance in twenty four. Ten seasons
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  followed twenty fifteen and sixteen, but the bottom fell out with one with a
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  six win record as Fisher left for Texas A and M before the bowl game
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  in twenty seventeen. Quote. In both cases, it was losing good assistant
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  coaches, failing to replace them with similar quality assistants, and then stubbornly refusing
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  to make changes to the coaching staff when it became clear that they had assembled
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  subpark groups, explains Bud Elliott, host of Cover three and the Nole Cast.
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  In both cases, the overwhelming majority of assistants who remained once both Bowden
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  and Fisher left were not working at the same level of college football. Following
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  the departures. In the year, Florida State of Course bounced back. Norvale
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  has got the program on solid footing. You look at LSU, they've had
• 1:10:41
  a lot of push and pull, tug and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:10:45
  Les Miles replaced NFL bound Nick Saban way back when and immediately found success at
• 1:10:50
  LSU. He won ten games or more seven times in nine years. This
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  run included a national title and two appearances in the National Championship Game. The
• 1:11:00
  regression began in twenty twelve despite winning ten games. He then fell short of
• 1:11:03
  double digit win totals in twenty fourteen and twenty fifteen. Now, if you
• 1:11:08
  go back to our one when I was talking about the deficiencies at Alabama due
• 1:11:12
  to the transfer portal and everything going on there, how that could affect the
• 1:11:15
  program moving forward, those were years that affected LSU because of guys leaving to
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  the NFL early a large departure year in and year out. It seemed like
• 1:11:25
  early guys, you know, underclassmen heading to the NFL, setting the stage
• 1:11:28
  for his firing in twenty sixteen. Quote and also as Glenn Gilbo, longtime
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  LSU beat reporter for outkicks, as Less got lazy, he also got lazy
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  hired the best man in his wedding, Cam Cameron, to be the offensive
• 1:11:44
  coordinator. The recruiting never really faltered, but it didn't evolve as offense has
• 1:11:47
  changed. Three years later, Edwards arn led LSU to the title with Joe
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  Burrow, a generational quarterback. So those are two cases, you know,
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  when you kind of look at what Debor's following was sabing to look at,
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  you go back to the eighties and nineties, the university of Miami. Miami
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  was flushed with talent during the Butch Davis years. This is following Jimmy Johnson,
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  and when Larry Coker took it over, the stage was set for the
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  Hurricanes to win the title. In two thousand and one, the Hurricanes did
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  just that. In Coker's first year as head coach, Miami went undefeated and
• 1:12:18
  won the Rose Bowl thirty seven to fourteen in a blowout of Nebraska. That
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  group in two thousand and one might be the best team in college football history,
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  winning games by an average of thirty two point nine points. We forget
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  that seventeen players from that incredible team were selected in the first round of the
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  NFL and the subsequent NFL drafts, including six players in two thousand and four.
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  Unsurprisingly, Miami lost three games in two thousand and four, its first
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  year in the ACC. Without the backbone of the incredible recruiting class, the
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  Hurricanes still won nine games, and the wheels of the cart started wabbling.
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  Sports Architects and Engineers and right now Newell Watkins President and Sports Specialists twenty three
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  years strong with CDFL is on your radio, Newel always good to visit when
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  you sair. How you doing doing great? How are you man? We're
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  doing good. I appreciate you guys teaching everybody up here, being a big
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  part of what's going on here with the Athletic Administrators Association. And you know,
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  you look around kind of the beating hall here. You know a lot
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  of great vendors from obviously you guys to Elite. You got Musco Lighting shows
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  the importance in you know, the Misispi high school athletics and sports has when
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  the state of Mississippi and you guys are right there as well. Absolutely,
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  we're really happy to be a part of it. Growing up in Mississippi,
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  of course, I was a high school sports athlete, and the work that
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  these coaches and administrators do is crucial to the development of these young men and
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  we just have to be a part of it and help support any way we
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  can. Let's talk a little bit about CDFL. What you guys have done
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  is nothing short of amazing here in the state of Mississippi. And Alabama and
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  other places, architects and engineers and you look at and we talked about this
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  with you guys before, but just to kind of regurgitate that message is,
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  you know, facilities aren't what they used to be. Facilities have always been
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  nice, but you guys have taken this to a different level, not just
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  collegiately, but you look down you know, smaller schools, high schools all
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  around the country. What you guys are doing is unbelievable. I really appreciate
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  that, and we definitely think the built environment has the impact on the quality
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  of life for these students. One of things it was a topic today was
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  mental health for students. There's a lot of pressure that's put on these students,
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  whether they're looking for scholarships or keeping their grades up or or nowadays looking
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  at the n al deals that are on the table for them. There's a
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  lot of pressure. And you know, so having a great place, great
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  facility where they can go and work out and have peace of mind and really
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  feel like they're growing in their their journey as athletes is uh. It's a
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  great thing that's order to be able to provide for them, and we're we're
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  happy to do that. Yeah, and you look, you know, just
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  looking through your brochure here and of course looking at a lot of your work
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  over the last several months, is you you reference the nil and the transfer
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  portal era and and some people, you know, just a common fan may
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  not think about it. But and I know I didn't think about it's as
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  I started looking. Is you got to catch these And I'm sure you guys
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  hear this from the administration side. When you have these meetings before planning these
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  facilities, Hey, we want to catch them when they come in the door,
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  right, I mean, it's really it's it's great to have and you
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  want to have great facilities to work out in and you know X number of
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  bays and areas, but we got to catch their eye. And it's up
• 1:16:40
  to you guys to help them do that. That's right and and something that
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  we we uh tay a little pride in. We don't want to we don't
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  want to claim anything that's not ours. But you know, we were very
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  involved in Old Miss Baseball and we finished their performance facility a few years four
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  or five years before they won a national championship, and I know that helped
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  and their recruiting and then Uh, Lane's at an amazing job at Old Men.
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  He's just really knocking out the park with recruiting. And you know,
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  we just finished the Manning Center. It's another project we're really proud of and
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  it looks great and I know those kids have to be sort of wild as
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  soon as they walk in. So you know, we just we're here to
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  sort of do our part and help these programs build for the future. Duel
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  Winkin's President and sports Specialists twenty three years running CDFL on your radio Wednesday edition
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  of the program, and you know, not to be outdone. Also Ole
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  Miss Golf, Herrington Golf Center practice facility. I mean when you look,
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  I mean you're kind of tee it up and you're hitting in a building,
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  hitting out on to the natural course. I mean, you guys are all
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  over the place. Also softball stadiums as well. We'll get to that in
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  a bit. But just the indoor slash outdoor Herrington Golf Center practice facility.
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  Yeah, really really neat facility from us we did a few years back where
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  they have I thinks track man, I'm not sure Matthew couldn't be here today.
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  He's actually at at the Air Force Academy pitching our master playing for their
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  baseball stadium. But it was one of his projects and they go that's where
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  they can go and practice hitting in bad weather. And so we were actually
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  finished up on another one of those for Mississippi College. So you know,
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  we do everything sports, golf, baseball, the diamond sports are probably our
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  sort of spot. But then we've done football. You know you talked about
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  Bama earlier. My guys down in South Alabama lost their coach to Alabama for
• 1:18:24
  the defensive coordinator. So I know South is gonna be looking for another head
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  coach and I've got a lot of confidence they'll find a great one. But
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  we're really proud of that facility down there we did for them, So you
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  know, we we we're sports fans and architects and designers also want to make
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  sure we get this out there. And of course we'll visit with you guys
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  again tomorrow. If you've got somebody that's listening that maybe is a shot caller
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  in a community of town, you guys do that too, YMCA Vicksburg.
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  I mean, you guys are working in conjunction with towns and cities to help
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  facilitate buildings and new new infrastructure for city complexes and more. Absolutely, and
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  we think that the sort of shifting landscape of sports. You know, there's
• 1:19:04
  now one of the things we talked about in AL, there's now in Al
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  money for younger athletes going into colleges, and that's going to put an emphasis
• 1:19:13
  on youth sports, high school sports, community sports. Sort of all it
• 1:19:17
  all moves down the line. And something that we're really interested in is helping
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  helping these communities and helping the young kids and these communities sort of find their
• 1:19:26
  way into these programs and help sort of fund their dreams and sort of you
• 1:19:31
  know, build a career basically in athletics. And it's moving. You know,
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  we see in the European model younger kids get to play sure semi pro
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  and that's kind of what's evolving here. So we think that's going to play
• 1:19:43
  a bigger part of one in the future. If you got somebody that's a
• 1:19:46
  school administrator that maybe not be here but not down here in this big group,
• 1:19:50
  but that might be interested in facility upgrades, learning more about what CDFL
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  does, How can they get touched together. Website's probably the easiest way CDFL
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  dot com or reach out and give us a phone call from the website,
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  so pretty easy to get ahole too, or we're on Twitter and Facebook,
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  LinkedIn and all that stuff, so we're out there. Just find us and
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  give us a shout. Noel Watkins, President Sports Specialist CDFL, Newell,
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  I appreciate your time and thank you so much for all that you guys do.
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  And look we'll do it again tomorrow. All right, thank you,
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  thanks so much. Newel Watkins on your radio CDFL here as we hit the
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  top of the hour, and of course we'll have Steve Robertson coming up here
• 1:20:29
  at five point fifteen. We'll talk Mississippi State sports and get his thoughts on
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  what's going on with the transfer portal with the Bulldogs. Also talk to him
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  a little basketball and baseball as well. Six er one eight nine seven one
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  quickly. Ross York is the new athletics director at Ohio State. And this
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  is courtesy of Ohio. Let's see this is OSU dot now I did see
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  I have to go over here and find it on Sports illustrated. Let's see,
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  somebody did a piece on Rosbuyork and I saw the headlines come across.
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  See if I can find this really really quickly, and it would be probably
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  under the NCAA football maybe. Yeah, the many steps of Ohio State's athletics
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  director Ross Bjork. It's just from Pat Forty. The Buckeyes boast one of
• 1:21:26
  the best athletic departments in the country, making this higher even more questionable.
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  We'll jump off into some of this, but Pat Forty does a good job
• 1:21:34
  kind of chalking through this. As he says, the Ohio State Buckeyes are
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  hiring Ross Biork as their athletics director effective July first. This is yet another
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  indication that the United States is a remarkable country where professional disasters great and small,
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  seemingly can be overcome with a strong jaw line and a firm handshake.
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  York is not without his merits, many of which the university documented in its
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  release announcing his hiring on Tuesday. Texas A and M, where he's been
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  the ad since twenty nineteen, has improved its overall academic profile for athletics.
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  He's fundraised to build some stuff, As Forty says, he's been involved in
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  name, image and likeness advancements at A and M. He made a few
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  good hires before that, he made some good He had some good moments as
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  athletics director at ole Miss, perhaps most importantly some university presidents. York looks
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  and talks like talks the part like a major college football athletics director should,
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  as if he was casting for some sort of a movie. He can deliver
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  buzzwords and jargon with you know, some smoothness to him and some you know,
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  some movement. But here's the rest of the resume for the omitted Ohio
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  State release that Ohio State didn't talk about. York presided over Hugh Freeze and
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  the scandal at ole Miss from twenty fourteen to twenty sixteen. The time period
• 1:22:57
  included major NCAA violations, Freeze other spectacular person personal scandal that cost him his
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  job, and organized this disinformation campaign about the n C double A investigation of
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  the rebels that led to the defamation suit. And we know the rest.
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  Moving forward. After the nc double A notice of allegations was put public in
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  May sixteenth, it became clear that Nutt was falsely escapegoaded because Houston Nutt was
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  in this at least you know in the documents and such. Also Byork replaced
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  Freeze as one of the one of assistants Matt Luke, and he also had
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  some other hiring snaffoos along the way at Ole Miss souh. They really lay
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  this out, Pat forty really lays the wood to ross bil York on what
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  down at the IP for the Athletic Administrators Association meetings. The m TRIPLEA a
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  part of the MHSA and the m a C. Steve Robertson will join us
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  coming up here. In the next segment, we'll talk Mississippi State sports.
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  We're out here at five point thirty four Missisippi State basketball. Marcaras Rodgers said
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  football coach Holmes County Central Standard of my left coach. Good to see you.
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  How are you man? Great to see you, Jake. I can't
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  complain. You know, we had that weather come through the last couple of
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  days. But other than that, man, glad to be here with some
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  of my colleagues, some of these professional guys. Yeah, I mean,
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  let's talk a little bit about that. We'll talk some football too. But
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  you know, I think a lot of times fans forget they see you guys
• 1:25:23
  on Friday and they say, oh, well there's coach. Well, coach
• 1:25:26
  does a lot coach right, So I mean you have ten places and the
• 1:25:30
  events like this for continuing education, to learn more. Take us through some
• 1:25:34
  of that. I mean obviously already. Will Hall was speaking earlier today.
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  A lot of you guys rolling in here. Some guys a little little light,
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  like I said, the weather kind of delayed some of that. But
• 1:25:43
  a great time here for the next two and a half days for you guys.
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  Oh yeah, no doubt, Jake, you hit it on the head.
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  So some of us, guys, we can't just show up on Friday
• 1:25:50
  nights and coach just through through the week. I'm actually the athletic director for
• 1:25:55
  the school district. So there's two junior highs, four elementaries and all the
• 1:26:00
  sports and activities. This athletic thing has evolved to activities. Now we've got
• 1:26:03
  de Beta Club, the chess club, you know, all of those things,
• 1:26:06
  debate and cheerleading and major ets, band choir, that type deal.
• 1:26:12
  You know. So, man, it's good to be down here with everyone.
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  Like you said, Coach Hall talked earlier, we got a chance BSN,
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  one of the vendors. They got a chance to talk to us about
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  just equipment in apparel, that type of deal. And we have guys like
• 1:26:28
  coach Shranman that stopped by and uh, just you know we're spongors. We're
• 1:26:32
  trying to grow in this profession and try to try to take this thing to
• 1:26:35
  the next level. Sure, no, absolutely, And you know when you
• 1:26:39
  talk about used to you guys, we're talking twenty years ago, it was
• 1:26:43
  just football coaches and you know they would have the athletic director attack and that's
• 1:26:45
  not taking a shot then. But it's evolved so much like you said them.
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  And you come down here and you look, you've got you know,
• 1:26:53
  fair play by translocks, you know, scoreboards, you've got field people,
• 1:26:57
  you got help. I'm talking to the helmet distributor that are or to my
• 1:27:00
  right hand side, CDFL that does facilities. I mean there's a lot of
• 1:27:03
  decisions that you have to make with budgets and I mean you guys are are
• 1:27:08
  athletics directors much like what athletic directors have to deal with in college, just
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  on a different scale. Uh you correct on that, Jake, as well
• 1:27:15
  as like you got missing sports medicine, you got to leave physical therapy people.
• 1:27:18
  Everybody that's in our business that that that that plays a part in that
• 1:27:25
  role of athletics and activities is here today. You know, vendors, whether
• 1:27:30
  it's the turf machine that paints the field by itself as a robot. They
• 1:27:33
  told me it couse eleven thousand dollars. It paints the field and you just
• 1:27:36
  hit a button and it does it all. No more assistant coaches doing it.
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  Uh, that's the turf tank, you know. So they got like
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  you said, the helmets and from from the from the floor to the top
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  of your head, they got stuff covered. Everything is covered here at this
• 1:27:51
  convention, at its conference. And plus I mean to step on you that
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  we're risually when Marcus Rogers, head football coach at Homes County Center, also
• 1:27:58
  athletics director for these school districts in Holmes County talking with us about this cevent
• 1:28:02
  here today, you know, talking a lot of coaches. What they'll tell
• 1:28:06
  me too is, hey, look, this gives us an opportunity to not
• 1:28:09
  only you know, see people you don't get a chance to see a whole
• 1:28:11
  lot, but also you know, you're talking about small schools are representatire some
• 1:28:15
  bigger schools, and you guys can talk about issues that maybe h a one
• 1:28:19
  a school that you could help that maybe you don't have those problems, but
• 1:28:23
  then maybe there's some problems you have that they can help you with. You
• 1:28:26
  hit that on the head, Jake, fundraising, uh, myself, bouncing
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  ideas off oxfors athletic director, trying to get more school student involvement. How
• 1:28:36
  can we uh uh market the games better and get just say a crowd like
• 1:28:42
  a Brandon and apparel. Sure you know that type of deal that that those
• 1:28:45
  are goals. Uh. Meeting with architecture people about facilities. Uh, that
• 1:28:50
  that's the biggest deal. And then and then and it grows your program and
• 1:28:54
  gets it going to the next level. Let's talk a little football. Tell
• 1:28:58
  us a little bit about what's coming back our Holmes County Central. I mean,
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  you guys had a fantastic run and just have really been right there putting
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  guys, you know, in the SEC, putting guys in college, doing
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  the things that need to be done for these young men. Just to wait
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  too early, look before spring practice for you guys. Well, I'll tell
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  you what, Jake, anytime you return to your trigger man quarterback through for
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  twenty eight touchdowns, only three interceptions, about twenty eight hundred yards. He
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  ran for nine hundred yards and ran for another nine touchdowns. So anytime you
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  returning a guy like Garrison Davis, you just give him the keys and keep
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  the car running and let him go with it. We got skilled guys all
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  over the field. Now we've got to replace some offensive linemen that we hadn't
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  had that problem within years. But defensively, we're going to be stout as
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  strong as usual up front. Offensively, like I said, offensive line wise,
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  we got some plug and play guys we're trying to get in there.
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  We played a lot of guys. So hopefully with the development and the strength
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  of conditioning program we got going on this spring and our football one on one
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  class that we do with them as well as getting on their chalkboard, gets
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  our team back to where we were and even better because our goal is not
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  to lose in the second round. Our goal is to get that goal football
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  and hopefully you can interview me in December. There you go. That's right,
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  and that's that's easier said to done. I tell people that all the
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  time is it is hard to win championships. I mean, you can be
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  really good and it's still really hard to win them because you got to be
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  at your best every week and then if you have a night where you know
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  maybe you're off here or a play here or play there. It matters.
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  And let me ask you this talking about Garrison Davis coming back, is you
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  know you talked to a lot of coaches. They'll tell you and sometimes people
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  are surprised to hear this. Well, yeah, I just I let him.
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  He's a coach. This kid is regardless of get he's coach on the
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  field. We let him run the offense as long as you know he's not
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  getting stupid. But to have a guy that's an upper classman say, hey,
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  look, if you see that, if you see a play, if
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  you see a coverage, you want to check out a play and chick into
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  a play, that's big for a head coach that that's that's a big deal.
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  Uh. And we've been meeting since the end of November. Uh and
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  trying to get him on the same page as myself and Malik Deer, who
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  is my offensive coordinator. But ultimately everything's gonna run through me. Uh.
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  But but just getting him on the same page, uh, and thinking like
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  we think and what we see with the box. Okay, if they gonna
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  condense the box, then we're gonna do this. They're gonna spread the box
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  out then we're gonna do this and I and we need him thinking like us.
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  And uh so far so good man. And that's that's that's gonna afford
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  us the opportunity to go real fast and uh hopefully get some guys missaligned and
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  and and execute a lot better and a lot faster this season. Forget you
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  out of here. What was your thoughts of Nick Saban retiring? Now?
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  You sent guys to the SEC. You've got a son that plays SEC football,
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  and you've been around these guys when you heard Nick Saban retired. I'll
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  tell you what coach been doing a long time. When I started coaching,
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  coach was at l s U. Uh you know so, Uh, my
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  ass off the coach. He's been the perfect model of sustainability, uh,
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  inconsistency. Uh and and he did it his way. Uh. But uh
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  it's a time now and I know a lot of people saying the nil deal
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  thing. Now. He adapted with every age, whether like he said when
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  he did the interview with Reached Davis, whether he adapted with the with the
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  with with the fast offenses and not so big linebackers and big d D linen
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  like he used to have. He he adapted well with the n IL deal
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  too, because he never had any issues with it. I just think,
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  like he said in that interview, some nights he would get tired and he
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  couldn't get the same energy. And he's one of those guys that want to
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  keep bringing energy, whether he's going to sleep at two o'clock in the morning
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  waking back up at five. He said he couldn't continue to do that.
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  So my hat's off to coach Saving. He did a great job, and
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  like I said, he's the perfect mark of consistency and sustainability in our game.
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  Yeah, I mean, would you know to replace a guy like that.
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  I don't know that Kaylin the board will ever replace him. I don't
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  know anybody well, but you look at what he did for college football,
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  and you know, again, really you look at Steve Spurrier did it in
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  the SEC, then Urban Meyer, and then of course Nick Saban really took
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  it to a different level. I don't know that the Southeastern Conference is where
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  it is today without him. You're right, You're right about this, Jay,
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  Like you said, Spurry and them, they they would do it in
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  spurts, but he had dynasties, you know, they kind of says John
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  Woodnish, you know, and we didn't we didn't think that would ever happen
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  again. Uh. We we thought they couldn't replace Burt Blant, Burb Bryant.
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  But I see they came with Nick Saban. So I don't know if
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  it's gonna be able to be uh copied. Uh, but I tell you
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  what, I'm just happy I was here to witness it, able to meet
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  the man, and uh was able to go to some clinics and and and
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  learn some things from him, you know. So uh like I said,
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  salute to Nick Saban uh and his family, and he's he's going on.
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  He going away on his own and he's still healthy. So you know that
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  this always good peace of mind is everything. Marcus Rodgers, head football coach
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  Holmes County Central, also athletics director for Holmes County as well. Coach,
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  I appreciate your time as always. It's great to visit when he was always
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  thank you, jac and I appreciate you. Man. Absolutely gotta take a
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  Robertson, who is next for Missippi State basketball pregame? And then TIMP at
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  six Steve, welcome in. How are you sir? Well, I'm getting
• 1:35:21
  a little cabin fever. You know, I'm ready for all this to be
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  done, and of course it'll be done soon. But you know, we
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  we we boys in the South, We're not really built for this, you
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  know, so oh a whole But I'm ready I'm ready to get it going.
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  Yeah, I agree with you one hundred percent. Stee. We're not
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  built for this. It's it's get out move and luckily, you know,
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  hopefully you guys will be out of that pretty quickly. We had just a
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  little bit of that down here in central Mississippi. All let's talk a little
• 1:35:48
  football and then we'll get some basketball. Let's update on some of the transfer
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  portal action for Mississippi State. You know, a lot of the attention has
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  been made, you know, just some of the bigger programs Florida State and
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  some others on the Oregon, Texas and the transfer portal even Ole Miss in
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  this state. But when you look at what Jeff Levy has done now fifteen
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  transfers, you know, some guys that look like can help change this program
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  pretty quickly. You know, from wide receivers to linebackers, excuse me,
• 1:36:14
  defensive linemen. Let's talk about some of these. Jacobe Jackson, offensive tackle
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  from Texas Tech, Wilkie Denald from a defensive lineman from Auburn. Jeff Levy
• 1:36:24
  and his staff have kind of run the gauntlet as far as positional need and
• 1:36:28
  the transfer portal looks like, yeah, I feel a whole lot better about
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  the offensive side. I think you got some real playmakers on offense. On
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  the defensive side, you know, for the most part, it's just kind
• 1:36:40
  of depth pieces, you know, and you need some depth. But I
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  don't know that States will have gotten a lot of difference makers. I'm excited
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  about Stone, you know, but Stone's two years into this thing, and
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  I think that's the guy that I really enjoy wearing a uniform, obviously because
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  he grew up a bulldog. But yeah, State still needs an edge Rosher,
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  probably needs another defensive back or two. But you know, I think
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  at this point the portal was pretty much depleted, which makes this whole scenario
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  with Alabama so interesting. With almost thirty guys in the portal and then a
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  bunch of guys going pro and you've got to go out here and build a
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  roster on what's left in the portal. That makes it a little interesting.
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  Yah. But yeah, State still got a couple of spots to feel and
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  they may just wait do it in April once the portal window opens at the
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  end of spring semester. Steve robertson Jean's page dot Com scout, Steve are
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  on ex get the podcast. Find I'm on social media platforms like Facebook and
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  more. Yeah, Steve, I was talking to Chris Landry about this last
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  hour with Landry Football, and I was looking through some numbers yesterday kind of
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  frozen in at the house and transfer portal specific and you know, you look
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  at Alabama. What is your take on this is? You know, we
• 1:37:43
  we quantify and half forever, you know, four year recruiting rankings, three
• 1:37:46
  year recruiting rankings, and that's you know, based on obviously rankings from two,
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  four to seven and others. And but then say, okay, well
• 1:37:53
  the rosters look like you know, A, B and C. But this
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  one's really strong, this one's mediocre, this one's not. But when you
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  look at Alabama and into some degree Georgia, some of the numbers that are
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  out there, I mean twenty, you know, unofficially twenty to twenty five
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  players this year for Alabama out four or five in you reference the guys going
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  to the National Football League last year eighteen to twenty one out seven or eight
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  m. I think at some point you're going to see this take effective not
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  only Alabama but other teams. And I don't know that we can officially say
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  this, but is the transfer portal going to close that gap between not necessarily
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  the have and the have nots, but from the mediocre to the to the
• 1:38:29
  really good teams? Well, it depends on how long they're going to let
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  nil compensation be tide to all this, you know. I mean that's not
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  within the spirit of the rule. But nobody's abiden by the rule, right,
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  I mean, you know, and so I think until they get a
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  national policy in place. And you know, we just saw Florida State get
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  put on probation for two years for some NIL issues, and yeah, is
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  that just a you know, is that a warning shot or is that how
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  we're going to do things? Because if you look at those sanctions, people
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  like, oh, it's a slap on the wrist, No, it wasn't.
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  You look at that compared to the you know, the crime itself,
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  and look at what they hit them with. That's not insignificant at all.
• 1:39:06
  I mean, even what the collective gets disassociated for a year. I mean,
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  come on now, I mean that's in this day and time that we're
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  in now, things are changing and the NCB has got to change with it.
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  But you know, I think when you look at the Alabama thing.
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  I cannot begin to imagine being a brand new coach with a brand new staff
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  and you've got to go get about half of your roster with a depleted transfer
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  portal, and you never know what's going to be in there come April,
• 1:39:30
  and you're having some of your recent commitments to be committed. It's going to
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  be a trial by fire in year one for Caitlin Devorda. I think it's
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  I think they come back to the pack rather considerably here in the years ahead,
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  staveless shift gears to basketball real quickly. Mississippi State will tip here in
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  less than the bout forty minutes. I like Seaton Kentucky taking all the Kentucky
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  Wildcats. You know, it's a place where you know, Lexington's very tough
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  to play. Mississi State has played there a lot. Your thoughts of this
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  basketball team, you know, getting a win against Tennessee last week, dropping
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  a game, you know, an eight point game to Alabama and Startville now
• 1:40:05
  on the road at Kentucky before coming home to take on Vanderbilt, well not
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  to Man and then Kentucky drops a tough game at a and M you know,
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  I mean, so I think with the State went over Tennessee and then,
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  of course, playing as well as they have in Alabama currently leads the
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  Southeastern Conference at a foreign a record. I think State is comfortable to most
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  of their contemporaries, and I think on any given night, State could beat
• 1:40:29
  anybody in this conference. Can they beat Kentucky? They can, not expecting
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  it if it ends up being a five on five games, and I think
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  State has a chance to go out there and can play some perimeter defense if
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  it turns into an eight on five game, and you know the other three
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  I'm talking about, which is traditionally the case and rough Arena, It's going
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  to be a long night. But Christians always has a great defensive game plan,
• 1:40:50
  and I think State has the personnel to execute that. It's got to
• 1:40:54
  make some shots, and that's kind of what happened against Alabama is like,
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  you know, State would get a stop and you just couldn't convert on the
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  other end. But I still think this is an absolutely NCAA tournament team.
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  I think the schedule kind of eases up a little bit after this ball game
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  tonight, but you know, State's got to bring your best effort, got
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  to bring a Tennessee caliber effort in a very hostile environment. Probably, you
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  know, eighteen nineteen thousand people there tonight, arguably one of the best home
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  court advantages in all of college sports. Steven got just a few minutes here
• 1:41:26
  Missippi State baseball where one month away air Force comes in on a three game
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  set February sixteenth, seventeenth, and eighteenth. Any baseball news to throw out
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  there, Yeah, I mean baseball. I expect them to be better.
• 1:41:36
  You know, how much better is going to depend on you know, justin
• 1:41:40
  Parker. You know, justin Parker. You talk to the pitchers, you
• 1:41:43
  talk to everybody affiliate. It said that he has really changed the mindset,
• 1:41:45
  you know about movement, and there's some exercises and things that he's done to
• 1:41:49
  make them more athletic on the mound. And it's fall that the guys are
• 1:41:54
  really good. There's always some up and down, right, But I think
• 1:41:57
  this is going to be a tournament team. They a hosting team. I
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  don't know that I'm willing to go that far. I think they're a solid
• 1:42:02
  number two on the road right now. That's the obviously step in the right
• 1:42:06
  direction. But you know, this is a program. It's very proud you
• 1:42:10
  got to win here. You can't stay here, you know. And you
• 1:42:13
  go back and look historically Mississippi State, you just you haven't had to deal
• 1:42:16
  with coaching teams very often. It's because of the fact you've had Ron Polk
• 1:42:20
  and you had Paul Gregory and Dude Noble, and those guys were there,
• 1:42:24
  you know, for decades, you know, and so it's a difficult circumstance.
• 1:42:28
  But I think Lamana's and the staff's done a great job. I kind
• 1:42:30
  of retooling the roster. They're going to have one of the best offenses in
• 1:42:32
  the country and don't go as far as this pitching can take them. But
• 1:42:35
  I'll tell you that the thing that jumped out to me in the fall is
• 1:42:40
  how much better they were defensively. They're a ton better on that left side
• 1:42:44
  with Logan Cole were coming in from Memphis, and David Marshawan and Dylan Koppo.
• 1:42:47
  They're both kind of trading some reps. But this is a team.
• 1:42:50
  When you get a ground ball to the left hand side, you're not going
• 1:42:54
  to have to hold your breath anymore. These guys can make the play.
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  ahead and knocked that one out, Steven, get to another one. Yeah,
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