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- 0:00[Music] welcome to multiple
- 0:03nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
- 0:07Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
- 0:13Things nerdy I'm starting to get more and more
- 0:19annoyed about disco alium not being available in Australia the Final Cut You
- 0:24gagging for it you want to play it sort of yes and sort of no I think I'm going
- 0:29to have to play it I agree but I don't know I just think that their reason for
- 0:34rejecting it just seems a bit weird to me are they clarified on it it's it's
- 0:39about the fact he's an alcoholic and the drug use and that type of stuff but from
- 0:42what you've explained from the game that's not a positive thing but yeah
- 0:45it's not a positive thing no like it's not saying alcoholism is
- 0:50good um I mean you could play it that way I guess if you wanted to you could
- 0:56but no I don't say that then we won't get it I definitely don't think the
- 1:01message is alcoholism is great I've heard you can still buy it on Steam and
- 1:07when you buy it it's still available on Steam you get the updated version so
- 1:11it's just the boxed copy that's not going to be for sale yeah who buys that
- 1:16anyway oh and on consoles oh oh man that's a shame that's all right I'll
- 1:22just get it shipped over look if Luke wanted to play it to just enjoy it he
- 1:27can go right ahead that's not why he wants to play that's not why he plays
- 1:30games to have fun I need to also get achievements while doing it he's got two
- 1:35jobs one of them is the Xbox achievements but yeah so once it does
- 1:40get released on the Xbox I'm just going to get it shipped in all right by me oh
- 1:44I can probably just order directly online oh fine don't need me then but if
- 1:48you want to send it to me I tell them to send it in uh nondescript brown paper
- 1:52packaging yeah look I've been playing a bit of this I know you've been playing a
- 1:56bit too Matt I've been busy and I don't want to rush it so I've put it on hold
- 2:00for a couple of days pretty impressed by the full voice acting that's been added
- 2:05to it with one
- 2:08exception my favorite voice is gone I'm
- 2:13talking about Kuno completely gone
- 2:18revoiced by someone new is it someone new or is it the same guy turning it
- 2:23down I couldn't figure that out I think it might just be another guy with like a
- 2:27cockney accent cuz his original voice is
- 2:30fantastic but also I can't I like how would you deliver so much dialogue in
- 2:37that voice cuz he he only really said Snippets like the [ __ ] does kuna care he
- 2:42never actually said all the words like I imagine it would be quite wants me to
- 2:46touch his dick yeah can't imagine trying to deliver all of that dialogue in that
- 2:53voice so yeah maybe they were like does he have a lot more oh yeah yeah yeah hit
- 2:59him in the dick Kuno you can have a full conversation with him again and again
- 3:05and every line is voiced now so I mean several convers she's like a main
- 3:09character basically yeah yeah so yeah maybe they tried it and they were like
- 3:14this is people are going to [ __ ] go death listen to this little [ __ ] it's
- 3:19fine by me he so good you're just having a look and it does look like it's just
- 3:24by the same person okay so he has just toned it down okay interesting he voiced
- 3:28two people in it who's the other one uh Jean
- 3:33viim VI is that the one of the old men
- 3:38who plays could be yeah I have no idea
- 3:42I'm just IMDb with the cannon balls yes exactly there's one guy who voiced a lot
- 3:48of the characters probably someone who works for the studio I found the narration to be a
- 3:55little offputting at first just because I played it without it for so long
- 4:00and I I tend like I read it at my own pace in fact even now with I think I
- 4:05said to you guys I've turned off read slow yeah I think I said to you guys
- 4:09I've turned it off and then I I did put it back on because I was like well I'll
- 4:12get used to it I'm sure and I kind of did but I actually kind of skip it
- 4:17sometimes I'll just if I've read ahead for where he's at I'll skip it and I
- 4:22find he emphasizes the sentences in a way that I
- 4:27feel doesn't do them Justice in some cases cuz the writing is very good and
- 4:32it's very clever and I think I think having him read it takes something away
- 4:37from it I would agree I also think there's an English as a second language
- 4:40issue going on but no correct yeah well he has an accent right he does so I
- 4:47think he just doesn't quite understand the Nuance of some of the dialogue yeah
- 4:52but he should be directed to yeah like there should be pauses in spots where
- 4:55there's no pauses that I I like when I read it I pause and it makes and and I
- 5:01laugh because I'm like that sentence is very funny but then when he says it I'm
- 5:03like oh he doesn't say it very funny like MH I don't know it's hard to
- 5:08explain look I I will say this though it's an absolute miracle that a game
- 5:13with so little voice acting was so popular to begin with yeah like they got
- 5:19away with a text Adventure essentially mhm and now there's even more I've
- 5:24already hit bits where I'm like oh this is new I think
- 5:30different quite found anything too new yet I've from having um you have played
- 5:37it through uh three or four times though haven't you done yes this is my fourth
- 5:41place probably done that's what kind that's what kind of was beautiful about
- 5:44it is that cuz my character this time I sent you some screenshots I've really
- 5:47gone in for my my character is going to be insane he I've put a lot of um points
- 5:52into his Inland Empire which is kind of
- 5:55his Madness is his inner voice and so
- 5:59I'm getting a lot of dialogue related to that that I've never seen before which
- 6:04is and it's fantastic yeah and then the whole sequence occurred where I mean
- 6:08this is not a spoiler where I was walking along and then it kind of panned
- 6:12out to this whole big view of of all of riversa and he had this internal
- 6:17dialogue with him like just with myself about what's like what's up north what's
- 6:22down south like not when you ask somebody about it with himself and then
- 6:26he remembered thought about it he remembered his old
- 6:30uh police station briefly and and he was like what is what was that like I don't
- 6:36remember that happening originally so either it's new or it's just because
- 6:40I've got different spe the other thing is that there's certain options that are
- 6:45only available if you fail at other options yeah okay so here's here's
- 6:51another example and I'll try not to give too much away there's a woman who you're
- 6:54trying to get information of and there's two ways that she'll talk to you you can
- 6:57show her your badge to prove your a which is difficult because you don't
- 7:01have your badge MH for reasons or yeah for reasons or you can go and figure out
- 7:08who's been running drugs through the harbor mhm and uh the first time I
- 7:14didn't have my badge I had no idea where it was so I had to go and find who was
- 7:18[ __ ] running drugs so I did this whole [ __ ] thing came back to her she
- 7:21gave me the information the second time I played through I knew where my badge
- 7:24was so I completed that part of the quest quickly and I didn't get any of
- 7:29the other stuff didn't even get an option didn't even mention it yeah the
- 7:33the drug running stuff was just not part of the game anymore just wasn't part of
- 7:37it because I succeeded too early with something else yeah I told her I didn't
- 7:41have a badge the first time and she was like what she was like what that's that's very
- 7:47bad you've lost your badge and then Kim was like uh he's joking he's joking he
- 7:53has a bad so good the first time I played
- 7:56through I masturbated in front of Kim
- 8:01I'm going to convince Kim that there's a sexy secret to this mystery there that
- 8:06dialogue option I'm going I'm like I'm going to that's what I'm doing this time
- 8:09I'm going to get my Inland Empire up high enough to convince him that there's
- 8:12a sexy mystery going on there's um I I I got so horny that I needed to masturbate
- 8:17and I was losing morale until until I just agreed to do
- 8:22it l the vo in my head this is going to sound like
- 8:27insanity to anybody listening who hasn't cuz it's like what are you talking about
- 8:31how is there a game like how does that even make sense you got to play this
- 8:34there's nothing like it yeah man I've heard there's there's one bit of action
- 8:40right luk there's one it's it's a shootout right happens two3 the way into
- 8:45the game I've heard if Kim dies during that shootout I know what you going to
- 8:49say Kuno becomes your partner yeah so is that now your goal
- 8:55yes to have Kim killed yes get to just
- 8:59be so LAX that Kim is shot and
- 9:03killed you Kuno mhm he's going to blow
- 9:09he's gonna blow
- 9:11Kuno so good Pig's talking about
- 9:17genitals what a game hurry up and finish recording this podcast so I can go back
- 9:22and play it oh I just got it's summer it's coming out in summer maybe we yeah
- 9:28I know that Xbox One got sort of pushed back but don't worry I will get around
- 9:34to playing it I think you said this playing through it again is um is great
- 9:38when you know what's coming cuz you really do pick up on other things like I
- 9:43I messaged you last night I never noticed before like Kim's got a camera
- 9:48but he's only got two shots on the camera they actually mentioned that very
- 9:52early on and I i' never thought like last time I was just kind of took it for
- 9:57granted that he had it but and so now I'm wondering
- 9:59can you waste those I bet you can yeah I bet you can you cuz it seems weird to
- 10:06mention that like hey he's only got two so yeah cuz there's the thing that you
- 10:11would want it for later but but also I guess you wouldn't it's not necessary
- 10:15it's just a really great moment later on that I guess maybe that doesn't happen
- 10:19if he if he uses the camera again yeah
- 10:22mhm yeah anyway great game interesting we being too vague I guess we should
- 10:28probably uh yeah just just play it listeners play it I know I've heard from listeners who
- 10:34have played it and and really enjoyed it so I know some of the some of the
- 10:36listeners are playing it right now yeah and I it's it's a tough sell cuz I also
- 10:43know people who who didn't like it when when we said play it it's not for
- 10:47everyone but it's it's just so good if if it's one of these games that we would
- 10:51have loved when if it came out like 20 years ago like more people will have
- 10:55enjoyed it then but now when people want think of I'm going to play a game they
- 10:59what am I going to shoot well it's even even like I I love this game but when I
- 11:03sat down when this came out and I sat down one evening and I was like I'm
- 11:07going to play this I was like ah it took me it took me a little bit to just to
- 11:11get get into it but then once you're in you're in it's hooked mhm I think it
- 11:16also comes down to the fact that like with this you cuz this is more of a you
- 11:21it's a story yeah oh yeah like there's no action things but with that it means
- 11:26you have to pay more attention and to what's oh you really do yeah and it
- 11:30rewards you if you remember dialog then you're going to go well what the hell am
- 11:35I doing the dialogue's the point like don't play it if you do that well I mean
- 11:38you get achievement there's only the dialogue yeah yeah exactly not you're
- 11:42skipping everything oh yeah the music yeah as soon as the game loaded I was
- 11:47like oh I'm back yeah that's right and the art [ __ ] me it's it's it's like a
- 11:53painting it's like it's like controlling a painting with this mees mizing music
- 12:00playing and just a surre just losing touch with reality like the bit where
- 12:06you can interact with the intercom and it's not really related to anything but
- 12:10you can like like you know what I mean there's a whole sequence where you just
- 12:13start hitting but you can hit buttons on this intercom at a building and just
- 12:16interact with it and it's like yeah it's
- 12:19so bizarre but like awesome yeah yeah the kids in the tent there was a whole
- 12:26playthrough where I never even spoke to them my my play through huh had no
- 12:31bearing on what I did in my investigation okay if if you play it
- 12:36that way if you don't need them yeah but I mean you can and it does integrate in
- 12:41but it's up to you I'm hoping that when I do get the play I will like it cuz
- 12:46I've just seen that they they're also releasing some clothes SP and a jacket
- 12:52that I really want is it green does it say on it it's
- 12:57orange oh
- 13:00jacket oh like a bomber jacket yeah
- 13:05ah oh God all right let's just a set of rubber gloves let a look at what I will
- 13:11be I paste a link for you does only like three jackets s right neeker I only need
- 13:16three there you go this is actually done
- 13:19under segments oh okay yeah yeah okay
- 13:24wow that [ __ ] death cloak one yeah
- 13:29Jesus I've also seen that I don't know if it's official but I've seen that as a
- 13:35like a spandex long sleeve tea pretty cool anyway great game great
- 13:41new version of a great game uh more accessible if you don't like reading and oh
- 13:48hello did he get in here it is more accessible me if wait is your dog
- 13:55wearing in Australia is your dog wearing a multiple nerdgasm hoodie I think he
- 14:01[Music] is I think he's wearing one of our ey summon
- 14:07shirts either he's figured out how to open a turn a door handle or I didn't
- 14:11shut the door properly did he also support us on patreon when we did our ey
- 14:17summon mhm yeah uhuh yeah nice of you for context listeners my dog is wearing
- 14:24a multiple n gasm t-shirt it's actually to stop him from from getting at his but
- 14:29he got bitten by another dog and pretty cute wearing it though oh
- 14:35yeah it looks great on him yeah yeah yeah we didn't want to put a cone on him
- 14:38cuz that would just his morale is already low yeah they don't they don't
- 14:43like the cones yeah he doesn't really need it so anyway he's fine the uh the
- 14:48orange the orange bomber jacket's pretty cool I must say and it kind of annoys me
- 14:53that Luke is probably the only one of us that could really pull this off know I
- 14:57couldn't wear it um and he doesn't deserve it so very easily make that
- 15:02jacket work you really could I'm only going to get it if I like the game there
- 15:08are some other jackets uh that he wears that I would probably buy and wear so
- 15:13you know just his disco Blazer yeah
- 15:16there only three on official it's all
- 15:20you get to choose from I finished I finished another game this week finally
- 15:26oh go on what were you playing I'll look you know what it is you've already seen
- 15:30the achievement pop up I'm sure I don't I I finally did something I bit the
- 15:35bullet and I and I finished the main
- 15:39story line in cyber Punk oh and I
- 15:43[ __ ] loved it yeah and it makes me so sad that people had a bad bad experience
- 15:50with this game I [ __ ] loved it mhm so have you
- 15:55loved an updated version of this or you loved the original game I I loved it the
- 16:01whole time this is this is honestly one of my I I had a fantastic time with this
- 16:05game I I loved it so even at the beginning when it came out but I on the
- 16:10series X we had way less issues the yeah apparently it was unplayable on on the
- 16:15old day Xbox which sucks like yeah for the bugs I was getting where playing was
- 16:19nothing gamebreaking it was more so the vehicles were a bit yeah there were a
- 16:25couple of times where I had to save and reload just to reset the environment to
- 16:29get P some one or two times where I'm going go here to complete the mission I
- 16:34get there and there's guy in front of me and we're just staring at each other and
- 16:38we're going to talk or yeah but then if you just save and load then it fixes it
- 16:42so but but I mean you don't have but that's all sorted now the the latest
- 16:45update 1.2 that just came out is [ __ ] enormous patch and it fixes tons of
- 16:49stuff and I saw a bunch of people on Twitter going why couldn't you have
- 16:52released the game like this cuz you didn't want to wait your Pricks they
- 16:55would you remember when you were telling them to go kill themselves
- 17:00ruin for everyone that's why they didn't have those fixes in it when it came out
- 17:04all right but there's still a long way off from it being Perfection fixed for
- 17:10everywhere yeah but I think on on your Xbox Dan I think if you want to play it
- 17:16now I think you'd be fine yeah right the only thing is it doesn't have the Next
- 17:22Gen update yet which is so now now I'm now I'm done with it it next you're not
- 17:28yeah be next year now cuz the they were looking at the end of this year for it
- 17:32but then with a hack that pushed everything back one thing that's come
- 17:36out though they're saying we're not going to talk about games as early
- 17:40anymore MH yeah probably best yeah other companies too they they going on the
- 17:45Bethesda route where it's like okay people care too much about this [ __ ] and
- 17:49we're actually letting them down by telling them things too early and
- 17:53they're not delivering everybody suffers cuz remember everyone was going crazy
- 17:58over for this game for a long time when all there was to begin with was just
- 18:03sort of one sort of picture really to go off at the very start yeah there that
- 18:08was the girl with the the Mantis blades and everyone was
- 18:13like that was all the information we had but everyone was going crazy going we
- 18:17want this now and that was it's going to have this it's going to have this it's
- 18:21going to have well hey whoa years away he said it's going to
- 18:25have it's here's a picture stop reading into stuff so it's going to be more like you know
- 18:31like when um Fallout 4 was announced and then all of a sudden you could buy it
- 18:34it's going to be like that I think which but that's fine cuz that was amazing
- 18:38well that's what we keep that's what Luke keeps saying he wants yeah so just
- 18:43do an announcement go hey you can buy it now I don't think you need to do the
- 18:47marketing as much as you used to not with these big games that everyone wants
- 18:51let's do that with films too yeah it gives you the ability to fail a bit
- 18:56without having to be stressful like you know like whole thing could have been
- 18:59avoided if I mean I'm sure this is exactly why they're doing it but if they
- 19:02had just not told everybody about cyberp Punk yet it wouldn't have been this
- 19:06[ __ ] pressure on them I I Still Honest think if they had not announced
- 19:10so long ago they probably wouldn't have announced it cuz they they you could
- 19:15they had to announce it comeing to Xbox one and PlayStation 4 back at the time
- 19:19so long ago they could have just if they didn't announce it back then and
- 19:22announced a few years later they just go this is just nextg mhm and they could
- 19:27have focused on that and half of the bad feedback and the
- 19:31problems they have go away cuz a lot of it is on that old generation of consoles
- 19:36yeah there were other bugs in it sure but yeah but I I didn't have anything
- 19:41gamebreaking at all just little Oddities nothing that and nothing that detracted
- 19:46from my enjoyment of I [ __ ] loved it but I'd love to see someone like
- 19:50Rockstar or something just to be uh cuz everyone's dying to know when are we
- 19:53getting the next GTA 6 and some stuff just to be a complete silence until the
- 19:59week off go by the way we have been working on this and you can buy it now
- 20:04yeah like apple do when they announce [ __ ] here's the new iPod iPod that's not
- 20:10that doesn't happen here's the new iPhone uh order it now cuz remember GTA
- 20:145 I think they spent like a like $300 million on marketing for that Christ
- 20:20that was surprising and it's but I don't understand why oh because people buy it anyway is
- 20:26that what you mean yeah well like who who are you really marketing to I don't
- 20:31know I feel like that's a game it does help it must otherwise they wouldn't do
- 20:35it I don't know I I think if you just go out
- 20:39to the influencers get a few copies out to people who are going to stream it
- 20:44play it get people talking about that way and just a month or two beforehand
- 20:50that's still marketing man Ian I mean pay these influencers a million bucks a
- 20:54piece to play these games yeah no no but yeah screw giving it to the big
- 21:00ones give to hey would you play this for us online for nothing game give him free
- 21:06games that's what he's saying yeah L Luke's saying I'm about to drop down to
- 21:10a 4 day week to have a games day
- 21:13twitch.tv/ 4 is that your Twitch triple 4 no my twitch is multiple nerdgasm oh
- 21:20of course it is twitch.tv/ multiple nerdgasm sorry mhm [ __ ] deck would
- 21:25have known that if he was here he I've kicked him out of the room again is a
- 21:28real fan that's right but yeah I don't know I think some of them are just too
- 21:32afraid to make a plunge like that because if it goes
- 21:37wrong you can lose quite a bit of money but I don't think you would yeah hey
- 21:44work for Beyonce like I don't need to see a a poster on the side of a building
- 21:49talking about a game yeah I don't go outside I'm not going to see it I'm too
- 21:54busy playing games Gamers aren't out there we're in here I had a thought when
- 21:59I finished this right because I the ending really got me actually I really
- 22:03liked it and it and you married keu reefs there's one thing I don't like
- 22:08about the ending I got to the end and then you know like you kind of play
- 22:12there's like sort of an epilogue kind of thing and then the credits were rolling
- 22:15and I was just kind of sitting there absorbing everything and I just had this
- 22:18thought that was like I bet at this point Luke was already considering
- 22:23reloading to do things differently cuz I'm not going to do that like my V his
- 22:28story is played out now so if I want you can never play again no well if I want
- 22:32to do it again I got to do it as a different character like it's just not I
- 22:35can't I can't just game it to to to see I'm I'm not going to feel right doing
- 22:40that's it's going to mess with me cuz I'm I don't know my V story is complete
- 22:44now and but like but the thing about it is it just once you finish that epilog
- 22:50crit everything it just takes you back to just before you started that last
- 22:55mission yes and that's why I don't like the ending cuz there's what's an ending
- 23:02it's but it's also not it well I mean it is it literally is like it's like if do
- 23:07you want to keep playing well you got to go you got to reload an earlier game
- 23:10basically but no what I mean is um it's I'm not looking forward to the DLC for
- 23:15it though I wonder that too actually the DLC won't follow off from your ending
- 23:20because no yeah they can't make a DLC for each of those to be fair I I the
- 23:27reason I like that is because I feel like if the game was like we want it so
- 23:31that you can just keep playing afterwards well then it would have to be
- 23:34too wishy-washy whereas in this like there there were decisions where it's
- 23:38like all right you got to make some decisions and I was like oh [ __ ] don't
- 23:41let me choose that like don't what what and there's some tough decisions that's
- 23:46what exactly that's what it was the ending really got me and I was like [ __ ]
- 23:51so I'm kind of glad because if it was just like all right and then actually
- 23:54you know what the world nothing nothing matters it's all keep playing like I'm
- 23:58I'm with the DLC they're working I'm wondering if it's going to be still in
- 24:03that same story or maybe you're going to be like a side story that was happening
- 24:07during the game somehow but then I thought of that would s the outter
- 24:12Worlds the DLC for that M you have to replay basically to get it because the
- 24:18DLC takes place at different points in the timeline like yeah I was just lucky
- 24:24for the DLC for that that I had a save point earlier yeah but if you'd finished
- 24:29the game and you only had that one save you'd been working on you'd Sav after
- 24:33point you have to restart the entire game which is crap like I just explained
- 24:37to you that I I don't play games that way like I've played out the story of
- 24:40the outer worlds now and so now I've got the DLC and I'm like I've got to play
- 24:45the whole game again to get to it yeah you know what I mean so that's I like
- 24:49what they did with Fallout 3 like there was the ending you died and then they
- 24:52went o we're going to make some DLC and now you're magically alive again don't
- 24:57worry about the you're sacrificing yourself yeah you joke but that was one
- 25:03of the happiest moments of my life when you came back oh no I when they rejigged
- 25:09that so you sacrificed yourself in the in that radiation chamber and just got
- 25:15really sick not too sick but it's sort of good cuz at the S
- 25:22you still were sacrificing yourself to end that story so it wasn't like you
- 25:25were going into it thinking oh I'm going to be back later you gave your life to
- 25:29save the Wasteland the Super Mutant who could easily have done it was like no I
- 25:34can't do anything for you mate you've going to have to do you got to do this
- 25:36yourself I can't be doing favors for you all the time above my cor pay grade mate
- 25:42yeah I'd love to but I've I've actually I've just checked and I've done too much
- 25:46for you yeah who's playing this game oh God I'd love to play Fallout 3 again
- 25:52yeah just not in the tunnels for days
- 25:58and days and days hunting Ghoulies did uh last year or maybe the
- 26:04year before I actually managed to get uh cuz on the the Windows Virtual a games
- 26:09for Windows things uh games I actually also had achievements on it I actually
- 26:14got it on Steam was I to unlock it get the achievements played it uh got a
- 26:19refund but also got all the achievements I don't know I don't feel
- 26:24wrong for this though well you should you should Luke yeah because in in the
- 26:30windows ver the game you can unlock the achievements just using console command
- 26:34achievement one achievement two achiev and just go through and unlock so you
- 26:37cheated sorry what it's what Dan and I would call cheating is what you would
- 26:41callely what any reasonable person would call cheating Matt I don't have to it's
- 26:46the way the game shipped I didn't have to make any adjustments to that's the
- 26:49game so that's fine that's the game that's how they intended you to play it
- 26:53it was just type words in your console and win wasn't what my plan was to do
- 26:58was to play through the game in its entirety like getting playing through
- 27:02enjoying it again and then just going through if I missed an achievement
- 27:05mopping up cuz remember there's the Megaton ones where destroy or save MH so
- 27:11but the problem was is on the steam ver
- 27:13it kept crashing on me oh so I just
- 27:19went because it keeps crashing and they gone yes but before I did that I made
- 27:23sure to unlock all the achievements I I did plan to do the
- 27:29right thing trust me Bethesda gets enough of my money that's true we've all
- 27:34bought Skyrim multiple times yes that's true
- 27:39[ __ ] in an instant now I want to play Fallout 3 again I prefer New Vegas New Vegas as
- 27:46well New Vegas is great I feel New Vegas is the best Fallout game in my opinion
- 27:51how how also would it be with packs coming up this in June July the packs
- 27:56online if that they sort of come out and go hey we've we've redone Fallout 3 and
- 28:01New Vegas for new consoles and it releases today well that's that's the
- 28:06new the news is PAX East was supposed to be on uh in June I think but they've
- 28:13cancelled that and we've got packs online again but you guys are still
- 28:16getting packs Australia maybe we still got packs Australia depending on we have
- 28:21no new cases yeah I thought for paxes they were
- 28:26being a little cocky he thinking that was going to go ahead very I think it
- 28:30was fair of them to say we'll see what happens uh cuz and then you kind of have
- 28:34to I guess logistically if you're going to do it you kind of have to tell people
- 28:37pretty far in advance yeah and then so I think the way they did it was okay but I
- 28:42didn't I was under no illusions of it was actually going to happen no it
- 28:46became pretty clear a couple months ago that it probably wasn't
- 28:50so yeah p p e was going to be in June but we get packs on lining in which I
- 28:54didn't mind no it was all right it's not the same but it's better than nothing
- 28:58the same I'm hoping that with the second time around it may be a little bit
- 29:02better with stuff that they've learned from the first time cuz there are a few
- 29:05times I went on to hey I'm going to watch this concert yeah there got guy
- 29:09playing the piano playing like uh marble blast or whatever it is yeah marble this
- 29:15marble B the streaming quality was just terrible he could the second he started
- 29:19playing could not Ed just freeze and then he'd stop and then he'd start
- 29:23talking and then it go back to normal second he started playing so maybe
- 29:27they've learned from that or maybe that's his gimmick and he has stumbled upon a
- 29:33genius way to make people think he's a musician when he
- 29:37is I don't know cuz I did hear a few few notes going in and you start to hear
- 29:42that Marble Madness music again and you it got me
- 29:46excited got to admit I was a little hard oo Marble Madness was good I got to say
- 29:53p online as a thing is kind of timely in the I've got another factor that might
- 29:59prevent me from going to packs yeah yeah or or comp certainly complicate that
- 30:04we're not going to be doing packs the way we used to that's for sure cuz I'm
- 30:06going to have a baby by the time there another one and in fact by the time PX
- 30:11is on I will also have a baby yeah so um but Dan I have checked with your wife M
- 30:17you're allowed to come to Pax Australia okay yep where am I spoke she just
- 30:23leaving the baby with her for a few days going down to Melbourne she also did
- 30:28inquire if the baby could go as well eating oysters getting drunk with you but I've
- 30:34already asked permission and she said yes so that's great cuz we've got pack
- 30:39unplugged packs unplugged is still planned in I think probably still in
- 30:44Philly that's the one that really probably shouldn't go ahead really
- 30:49because everyone's sitting in little circles oh you know what that's a good
- 30:52point handing cards around breathing on each other good point yeah maybe but
- 30:58we're supposed to all be vaccinated by then and then but until there's another
- 31:01strain or something that well anyway let's hope that let's just hope that
- 31:04doesn't happen but but yes hopefully this also by this time next year we'll
- 31:10also have the Pack o unplugged as well yeah and hopefully so that was something
- 31:15I'm looking at for this year I'll be able to come visit at some point we can
- 31:19all go to packs yeah and we can cosplay
- 31:22with your babies oh yeah oh yeah Master Blaster little y outfit on the the back
- 31:28backpack away you go yeah Master Blaster last Too Short
- 31:33cos yeah crang am I do
- 31:40crang baby oh what's the guy from Total Recall to yeah that's one I was just
- 31:45trying to think of um yeah what's his name I can't remember doesn't matter
- 31:52Basket Case Basket Case yeah yep which one's
- 31:57Basket Case remember Basket Case guy like a brother in a basket he's like
- 32:02head in a b side oh I don't know this but it kills people it's a horror movie
- 32:07one of those old cheesy sounds great' 70s horror movie I think 70s 8s there's
- 32:13like three of them or something I'm I'm amazed you haven't heard of it amazed as
- 32:18well it's like a twin brother who's like only a head or something and he's in a
- 32:22basket he's not just a head he's got he's got some sort of Limbs he's got
- 32:26he's got an arm and then basally the brother's off having fun like trying to
- 32:30get lead a normal life meets a girl and then the brother in the basket gets
- 32:34jealous and starts murdering people yeah as a head with an arm I'm going to have
- 32:39to go watch this again now that's that's my homework for this
- 32:43week the head in the basket I'm looking
- 32:46now uh looks like bib Fortuna yeah
- 32:51yes like a lot does it looks a lot like big Fortuna yeah I want to watch this
- 32:57what that a traa movie was it a traa movie I don't think so Return of the
- 33:02Jedi no no it wasn't I watched uh I watched a bunch of movies and okay I
- 33:07watched a couple of movies as well I'll be brief because even though I watched
- 33:11probably 12 hours of things fighting each other uh they're all quite similar
- 33:17I watched it started as just a oh you know Godzilla versus Kong is out I'd
- 33:22like to watch that I haven't seen Kong Sky Island though and all godilla King
- 33:27great and so we're like we're like why don't we just watch all of them so we
- 33:31did we watched Kong Skull Island Godzilla the Gareth Edwards one Godzilla
- 33:37king of monsters and then we watched Godzilla versus Kong wow how is that one
- 33:42that's a that's a lot of really syy movies backto back Matt I got to say I
- 33:47[ __ ] loved them all of them in their own way I think Godzilla king of
- 33:51monsters is the weakest of them mhm Godzilla versus Kong is the insanest of
- 33:57of them I really appreciate that they were just like [ __ ] it don't worry about
- 34:04it like we know this makes no sense and it's just [ __ ] ridiculous yeah the
- 34:09Earth's Hollow and we're going down there like that's great I it um because
- 34:15if you recall the the Gareth Edwards one was fairly grounded yeah yeah yeah he
- 34:21tried to find some truth in the story yeah and then Kong Skull Island was not
- 34:25but it was great kind of because it just Embrace that SCH [ __ ] amazing yeah
- 34:29yeah and Kong is [ __ ] enormous in that I was like oh okay he's [ __ ]
- 34:34yeah cuz I was like how's how's he going to fight Godzilla yeah because even
- 34:38Peter Jackson Peter Jackson made him just a really big gorilla you know yeah
- 34:42CU I was like how is he going to fight Godzilla but then even in that's even in
- 34:46that he wasn't he still wasn't big enough but then there's just at the
- 34:49beginning of con like Godzilla ver is Kong someone says oh yeah he's gotten
- 34:54bigger that's and that's it done and he's got a beard now which I
- 34:59[ __ ] he has a beard he's old man K that's how you know that he's like
- 35:04taking a serious turn in his life I was seeing though that people are upset
- 35:09about the new one because there's no is monsters fighting each other that
- 35:13there's no real it's got It's got you'll see actors names in the opening credits
- 35:17and you'll be like oh he's in this and he's got one line and you're like what
- 35:21the [ __ ] and then the the director was like Yeah we actually basically just cut
- 35:24out all the humans cuz no one gives a [ __ ] that was the weakest part of all
- 35:29the others was the remember when they were trying to force on us feeling
- 35:33feeling something for this family that were trying to get back to each other
- 35:36did not care about them I want to see Godzilla wreck stuff king of monsters
- 35:39with Miley Bobby Brown's family and all that kind of stuff get rid of it right
- 35:43and then this one they did and it's [ __ ] perfect it's just it's monsters
- 35:48hitting each other excellent I'm going to have to watch it cuz I do enjoy that
- 35:52just ridiculous over the top stff like I still like the Pacific Rim movies yeah
- 35:56yeah I know I like that too specific Rim specific Rim Yeah no you but you've
- 36:03got to turn your brain off whose Rim is this like the stuff that it's they they
- 36:10just say it and then you have to go okay okay why don't don't they it it just is
- 36:16Just go with it if you ask questions and try and read into it you're not going to
- 36:19enjoy it just it's [ __ ] dumb accept it just go with it if they say it it's
- 36:25true basically and I think think if more people did that with a lot of other
- 36:29movies they more people would enjoy stuff instead of going this doesn't fit
- 36:33what I thought it should be and like they never explain how the military has
- 36:40like you've got this the the the Earth is hollow they got this crackpot guy
- 36:45played by Alexander Skarsgard who's apparently a [ __ ]
- 36:48Professor which just makes me laugh why not and then he's a crackpot Professor
- 36:53you've got this crackpot billionaire and then all of a sudden the military is
- 36:57helping them and they're taking Kong some to to it's just you just have to go
- 37:03worry it yeah like why do they have all these battleships just shut up and go
- 37:06with it like where did they come from Just sh sh look at the look at the
- 37:12monkey punch the lizard like but there's some fantastic visual
- 37:18stuff like just really great gags during the fights there's a bit where like Kong
- 37:24cuz he's [ __ ] jumping across ships and stuff in the ocean cuz I was like
- 37:27how's Kong going to fight Godzilla in the ocean oh that's why the battleships
- 37:30are there and he he lands on aircraft carrier and he picks up a plane and he
- 37:35throws the plane at Godzilla and then he cuts to the puv or the pilot in the
- 37:38plane and he's like [ __ ] and he pulls the ejector cord and he [ __ ] ejects
- 37:43and then the plane hits Godzilla it's fantastic [ __ ] yeah that's what the
- 37:47movie I'm going to go for my homework now I'm going to go see that yeah just
- 37:52turn your brain off I'm going to leave the house and go to the movies and then
- 37:56Jenna said is this going to be like Batman vers Superman and then they're
- 38:01going to be like fighting and then one of them's going to go Mothra
- 38:08mo why are you saying that name we should do a whole series of them
- 38:14right cuz I got one too that's brilliant but we also need to do one you know that
- 38:18scene at the very very end of uh Justice League Zack Snider's Justice League I
- 38:24mean only 30% of people will know what I'm talking about but we get that later
- 38:29the ending yeah well when uh mar mar see I'm about to my own when Martian
- 38:36Manhunter comes down and starts talking to Bruce Wayne and he says my name is
- 38:40Martian Manhunter I want to dub over him with going Marsha man
- 38:46H my mother's name is Mara's no no no
- 38:50Maran Mar Martian Martian from
- 38:56Mars Mar and Manhunter because they should have got Mike Tyson to play Mar Manhunter Mar
- 39:02Manhunter um Matt have you seen if you if you're a fan of Mike Tyson's acting
- 39:08um there's uh there's a series of Cantonese films um called the ipman
- 39:15series with Don Yen Donny Yen yeah yeah
- 39:18first one amazing movie really good
- 39:23seven seel all garbage absolute garbage right in the third third one Mike Tyson
- 39:29is in it oh God and I went to see it uh
- 39:34and he speaks Chinese Jesus all right I've heard a rumor about Mike Tyson
- 39:40being in movies before and they've had to shoot it in
- 39:46sequence cuz he doesn't understand that they already done that
- 39:52bit yeah no no this is the next bit in this script for me no we're going to
- 39:56film this part now but no I haven't done this yet Jesus so yeah I have to do it
- 40:01that way it's a rumor I don't know how true it is probably I like to believe it
- 40:05it's true yeah probably so I watched a couple of movies on the weekend go on
- 40:10what did you watch so Disney plus now
- 40:14has vintage Star Wars oh there God and
- 40:19they had is that what they call it Ewok yes H vintage Star Wars what is included
- 40:24in vintage Star Wars you get Star Wars Caravan of Courage battle for Endor I watched both
- 40:31of them still enjoy Caravan of Courage
- 40:35but my God the acting is bad really bad and then I watched the
- 40:41sequel which that's okay it still makes no sense in the Star Wars Universe
- 40:46either because a woman can turn herself into a crow and that's fine oh huh um
- 40:53the other thing they've got on there at the moment is the Clone wall
- 40:58the Animated Series but there was before the Clone Wars animated series actually
- 41:02came about there was actually another one yeah the cartoon cartoon yeah so not
- 41:07the went for seven season the 2D white yeah the Dexter laboratory guy right
- 41:11it's that very Samurai Jack yes a bit of
- 41:16the Star Wars holiday special is on there bit of it just a bit the cartoon
- 41:22where're introduced to Boba Fett right um the other one is Ewok cartoon is on
- 41:28there oh yeah my God watch the intro to that it is is it just gummy bears God
- 41:34they were on drugs back then there's also another cartoon series
- 41:39that's coming later this month I believe that I'm looking forward to and that's
- 41:42droids I love Dro I loved droids I'm going to I'm looking forward
- 41:48that cuz I want to see if I still like it cuz I remember like youon you won't
- 41:52you won't at all yeah maybe don't maybe just remember liked it look we're about
- 41:555 years old when that was on and we were a Target demo for it it is a it is for
- 42:00babies for little babies I'm still going to watch it yeah I'd like to watch it
- 42:05too but I like how I now have I don't have to get my DVD out of Caravan of
- 42:09courage to watch it now a when are they going to put the unsp special editions
- 42:15on Disney plus that's what I want to know um I don't know if they will maybe
- 42:20never maybe never to me I think what they're honestly better to do is not
- 42:24release that on their Channel but just to go here you can buy the Blu-ray
- 42:27version of it they did for a bit you could get the DVDs that had The
- 42:31Originals on the second disc I've got those somewhere not very good prints of
- 42:36them though no it's rips of the laser discs so yeah it's basically they go
- 42:40look if you want the original we'll give it to you but we're not doing anything
- 42:44we'll give it to you so it looks [ __ ] so you won't want to watch it I was talking
- 42:47to someone about this this week uh about how like some of the stows movies have
- 42:51aged and the one that's aged the worst out of like the Star Wars the prequels
- 42:57all the side things is actually episode one fanty Manis yeah yeah yeah yeah
- 43:02because I don't know if it's aged badly or if it was just always garbage I mean
- 43:06if if it's a sliding scale about how much you enjoyed it then versus now I
- 43:10still enjoyed it the same the same amount I'm not talking about how much
- 43:13enjoy I'm talking about just the how it looks yeah it's awful it's disgusting I
- 43:19enjoyed it a lot when I first saw it because it was new Star Wars it was a
- 43:23new Star Wars movie and I hadn't had one of those ever
- 43:27since the original ones since I've been I definitely enjoy it a lot less now
- 43:32than I did the first time I watched it I heard a staggering statistic the other
- 43:36day M more time has passed between
- 43:41episode one coming out and now then had passed between the end of the Star Wars saga
- 43:48and the start of episode one yeah cuz it was what 15 years something like that 84
- 43:55to 99 or something like that right mhm mhm yeah it's not even that long not I
- 44:00mean it was most of our life at that point like we weren't that it was stuff
- 44:05that came out before we were born and then when we were very young yeah and
- 44:09then the rest we had to wait for and we thought but and for I think also because
- 44:13for so long he kept saying no there will never be anymore MH mhm and we believed
- 44:19him that was the that was the start of his life we trusted him we trusted there
- 44:23is and yet there's another director who keeps saying there will be more Star
- 44:27Wars movies a Trilogy of them yeah well I don't know Luke I think it's been
- 44:32confirmed this week that Ryan Johnson has in fact got a Trilogy yeah it's just
- 44:37not a Star Wars Trilogy I I didn't mind knives out I've got to watch it I guess
- 44:43I've not seen it maybe I'll watch it again I didn't like it but oh really
- 44:47okay yeah it's in the genre that I like I just I just that's why I was like maybe I like
- 44:52it I I didn't mind it wasn't terrible wasn't great it was was it was a movie
- 44:58not selling what I think what I think did better which came out roughly the
- 45:02same time was the PUO reboots oh thean Express and all that yeah yeah there's
- 45:09new one of them new one of them coming soon so I I would watch that before you
- 45:12watch this honestly I'm happy Netflix have come out and gone Ryan here we'll
- 45:16give you money go make more of this and so maybe he'll stop talking about these
- 45:20Star Wars Trilogy that's not going to happen cuz I still don't think anyone
- 45:27else has mentioned it since it was first discussed I mean he's he said he's
- 45:32working on it they've not announced that officially oh I don't doubt he's still
- 45:37taking notes down for it cuz yet no one's picked up the phone
- 45:41to tell him it's not happening but they're also not picking up the phone
- 45:45they go hey we're sending over a contract for you right yeah speaking of
- 45:50things that are and aren't on Disney plus right just a little bit of follow
- 45:55up on Gina Carano news right oh yeah yeah we we talked about how everyone was
- 46:00saying she was fired from Star Wars and then we kind of corrected and said well
- 46:04she wasn't really fired she just wasn't renewed yeah um but there is also the
- 46:09argument that she was slated to appear in more shows I mean that's that kind of
- 46:14is being fired when you're an actor I guess yeah and and especially if you're
- 46:18meant to be in a show and then you're told you're no long You' being written
- 46:21out of that it is and it isn't I guess it's not the same thing but it's I guess
- 46:24it's of but just in case you didn't think Disney would taking a stance
- 46:28across the board there's there's evidently even an episode of The Bear
- 46:33Grills Adventure show that she guest start on that is on uh NATO which is a
- 46:39Disney property that has now been caned you can't it's not on Disney plus yeah
- 46:44they've deleted her entirely from their platform that's
- 46:49interesting not only that but this week
- 46:53Twitter decided to put the provocative
- 46:57content filter over uh over her Twitter
- 47:01so essentially she's kind of had a soft ban put on her Twitter as well
- 47:07interesting do you can you look at them if you want to or is how does that work
- 47:12like does it say I don't know I'm not on Twitter so I don't really know how
- 47:16Twitter Works to Twitter I go I mean I
- 47:20kind of understand but how do I log into
- 47:25it is a shadow B a move isn't it Shadow attempt to address bad faith actors who intend to
- 47:30manipulate or detract from healthy conversation okay so they're just kind
- 47:35of ranking her stuff lower they're not filtering her tweets or anything but you
- 47:41she's just not going to show up if you search for you know facts about covid-19
- 47:46or something is that I don't know I found a account it also affects house
- 47:51will show up in the search too right it wait is there actual evidence of this
- 47:54cuz this article says it as if it's fact but it's saying Twitter has locked her
- 47:59account behind a sensitive content filter but what is is there actual
- 48:04evidence that that's a thing I don't know I just looked up on her Twitter
- 48:07feed found it right away and I can see everything yeah oh no no well all right
- 48:14I got a warning it says oh I get a warning too caution this profile may
- 48:18include potentially sensitive sensitive content well wonder why I didn't get
- 48:22that all right so they have done that so that's I remember when um patreon did
- 48:29this to us new's tweet is just hash sensitive
- 48:33content remember patreon did this to us because I guess their their system
- 48:39picked up on the fact that we use a lot of I guess uh
- 48:44innuendo in the show notes and in the titles and they basically thought we we
- 48:48were adult content they said yeah they flagged as adult content which when I
- 48:53read the the what that means as far as patri goes we're not that cuz we what
- 48:59they mean is the you know the nudity if I was getting my if I was taking my
- 49:02shirt off more and selling those photos yeah they thought maybe our podcast was
- 49:07a little bit sexy and we assured them it wasn't but we were we were blocked from
- 49:12showing up in their search results and from Google if you Googled we would have
- 49:17been blocked from showing our patreon uh because of that so I guess this is the
- 49:21same thing that they've done to her I mean h
- 49:27I know the one the one the thing I'm just finding weird is the removing her
- 49:31from that be Grill's episode removing that be Grill's episode that's yeah and
- 49:37and yeah I I'm not saying this is the same thing because Jina K is not posting
- 49:40nudes or anything there's perfectly reasonable to to do that because you
- 49:44know what maybe she is Matt maybe she is who knows we'll never know let's well
- 49:49let's find out but this is a little different her tweets are political in
- 49:53nature that's why this becomes a bit of a a bit of a no that's what I'm saying that it's a
- 49:59gray area but it's actually not a gray area she she's posting stuff that's not
- 50:03true like that's not really just political that's just she's just
- 50:07perpetuating nonsense the problem is now that apparently your opinion about
- 50:12science is just as valid as the science you know yeah yeah feelings are worth
- 50:18more than facts so right so I don't know yeah I just yeah the moving of the
- 50:24episode that's the what part I'm not liking about it like that's it's there
- 50:30why why remove that did they announce that they'd done that or did they just
- 50:34quietly Do It Disney and uh that J have
- 50:38both just any announcement theyve just
- 50:42that episode off yeah right it's like um they did that with Always Sunny they
- 50:48didn't announce they were getting rid of the the episodes with blackface they
- 50:52just got rid of them and then people noticed and then it was like oh yep yeah
- 50:55we we did do that did yeah like what do you what do you think what do you think
- 50:59we were going to do yeah exactly I mean yeah you could argue You
- 51:05could argue that those episodes are trying to say something they're not
- 51:12trying to you know but it doesn't matter it doesn't matter does matter you can't
- 51:17make a comment on blackface by doing blackace ironically you're still doing
- 51:22black yeah absolutely but uh Australian listeners might remember hey hey it's
- 51:28Saturday yes uh an old variety show from the ' 80s and 90s Luke has reminded us
- 51:34on this podcast before that Australia didn't realize blackface was not okay
- 51:39until uh that's not how Luke says it Luke say it was okay until it wasn't
- 51:45well it almost was because um there's a
- 51:49Malaysian Indian Australian singer called Kamal right oh yeah mhm yeah he
- 51:55was a very nice I've met him I've been in his house he's lovely sorry I'll just
- 51:59pick up that name I just dropped um but he was a regular guest on hey hey at
- 52:04Saturday back in the ' 80s and he's recently come out and said uh they
- 52:08didn't treat me very well they humiliated me and people have dug out
- 52:12the clips and [ __ ] me they're racist really so the the first time he's
- 52:19sitting there you know and sitting on the stool with the mic the lights are
- 52:23off he's waiting to be announced right so okay ladies and gentlemen our special
- 52:28guest Kamal his light doesn't come on a light comes up on Daryl H Daryl Hannah
- 52:34darl summers in blackace oh God yeah
- 52:39really that's one right so that Happ and he didn't know they were going to do
- 52:42that no he did not know they were going to do that Jesus and he was Furious he
- 52:45was Furious right yeah a year later they convinced him to come back on and he was
- 52:50like I'm not coming on if you're gonna do blackf face and [ __ ] they're like no
- 52:52no no we're not goingon to do that we're not gonna do that he's like if you
- 52:55announce to be me I want to be [ __ ] me and I want to sing my song yeah right
- 53:01okay ladies and gentlemen Cal light comes on kamal's there he starts to sing
- 53:08[ __ ] cast run in with white paint start [ __ ] painting him white oh God
- 53:14yeah a few people sort of C tried to call me out go why didn't you do this
- 53:19speak up about this at the time and he's sort of like I was a black man in the80s
- 53:26yeah I can't if I speak up about this
- 53:29who was I GNA tell yeah it's listen to where when stuff gets pulled up it's
- 53:35yeah do you remember the hugely popular Footy Show character mahat mot mahat
- 53:41Mandi yeah no M yeah it was fatty vorton a very white
- 53:48man doing an Indian character and it was hugely popular in Australia like he had
- 53:54[ __ ] ad deals he was everywhere like in the '90s that happened yeah and
- 54:00ask any man on the street he would have told you nothing wrong with it now I
- 54:05would have I thought even you know like people say oh yeah Aussies are a bit
- 54:08casually racist I was like what are you talking about mate and now I'm like
- 54:12baffled that I ever thought that we weren't like you're telling me this
- 54:15about hey Saturday like yeah mhm just how did I not cuz it was just everywhere
- 54:22we and I think what the issue is a lot of people go oh what's the problem is
- 54:25it's only only a joke it's not but making those it's not only a joke but
- 54:31making those little jokes and everything people then start to get comfortable and
- 54:35then that people go too far um also let people do horrible [ __ ] and then go ah
- 54:42it's just a joke I'm just joking I fire him as a joke like yeah like if the joke
- 54:48is just you set a word that you're not meant to say yeah it's not a joke but
- 54:53also even even beyond that I mean Cal should just be able to get through a
- 54:59day without people pointing out that he's black yeah you know like that' be
- 55:03nice wouldn't it probably yeah who knows cuz it hasn't happened
- 55:09yet did he know you were in his house Dan or you just sne the time he did yeah
- 55:13the time he did all right he spotted you sneaking in yeah he saw me in black face
- 55:20he has got you to in order to get from his front door to his living room you go
- 55:24down a long corriddor I It's Not Unusual House people know what a house is right
- 55:28so um we've seen a house Den yeah yeah [ __ ] lining one wall is just Gold
- 55:34Records oh yeah and lining the other wall is just photos of him with famous
- 55:39people and I'm talking real famous Bill Clinton Prince Charles like [ __ ]
- 55:45Sultan of brunai yeah that'd be right just just normal stuff yeah other than that it's a
- 55:52pretty normal house like it's a nice house but it's not like a super rich
- 55:55person house he's down to earth he's just not as rich as you think he
- 55:59probably would yeah well and I think a lot of people like assume just all
- 56:04actors the second of been anything are now millionaires and are set for life
- 56:08that's Ron pman I mentioned the other week he was talking about that he's got
- 56:12a book basically that's about that it's about how he's yeah he's very famous but
- 56:16he's I'd love to read that he's not as rich as you think he is famous doesn't
- 56:19mean Rich yeah he's fine but he doesn't have five houses like and that's on the
- 56:25podcast where was like yeah yeah he's just got the two houses just the two
- 56:29just the just the one in the Hollywood Hills and the one in Hawaii Matt Matt
- 56:33you have two houses mate yeah all right fine yeah Ron come live with me mate
- 56:40I've got a house you can borrow houses yeah yeah I wanted to talk briefly about
- 56:43a show that I watched because Dan you sizzled this a couple times when I
- 56:48mentioned that I only watched the first episode of it I've watched all of
- 56:51Chernobyl now mhm and it's it's just [ __ ] amazing yeah I don't I can't say
- 56:57enough good things about it except it's a tough recommendation cuz it's dire
- 57:03[ __ ] horrible like you will feel miserable at the end of it it is just an
- 57:08onslaught of like you didn't watch it with Jenna did you no I didn't good no
- 57:15pregnant women should avoid this and just from from the point of
- 57:22view of just I thought I knew I mean I did I did KN I know what happened at
- 57:26Chernobyl but just the extent of it the extent of the lies and negligence and
- 57:32the the [ __ ] onion of just incompetence and and and lies yeah is
- 57:38mindboggling like they almost destroyed Europe and nobody and they didn't tell
- 57:43they wouldn't tell anyone they're like no no what's it gorbachov says in it um
- 57:47uh our power comes from the appearance of our power no one can know about this
- 57:53like [ __ ] man like they almost killed millions of people just just through
- 57:59negligence yeah and in thousands yeah
- 58:03it's NE negligence in the first instance and then just [ __ ] and then lies
- 58:09about the negligence yeah like the whole thing comes from just people being
- 58:14negligent but thinking oh it's fine because we've got these fallbacks but
- 58:17then those people were negligent and lied about it and then the people before
- 58:20that one NE just just like layers of it just until we get get the point where a
- 58:24[ __ ] nuclear reactor explodes and then they lie about it and they go
- 58:28no it didn't explode it [ __ ] did like even the staff there are lying to each
- 58:32other the boss is like it didn't explode it [ __ ] look at the window mate it's
- 58:36[ __ ] explode no they can't explode like oh God yeah unfortunately instead
- 58:42of just like owning up to go hey this has happened and bad trying to hide it
- 58:46and it just means the repercussions are worse well there's a really great scene
- 58:51that like sums it up where they're trying to they got to clear all the
- 58:53graphite off the roof and they they get like the [ __ ] Soviet Luna Lander to
- 58:59try and push it and the radiation just fries everything and then they borrow
- 59:02this robot from Germany cuz the Germans say yeah yeah it'll work so they get
- 59:06this robot in and they're like yeah and then it just dies and it turns out it's
- 59:11cuz the Soviet government lied to Germany about the level of radiation and
- 59:15it like it was never going to work and you just the look on all their faces are
- 59:19like like [ __ ] Jared Harris is [ __ ] brilliant he's amazing yeah but
- 59:26amazing man he just keeps getting better and better I tipped him in Mad Men years
- 59:29ago but then then he did the terror which was great he did this which was
- 59:33great he's in the expanse yeah but you're right there's just so many lines
- 59:38of dialogue in this show that are just oh right as dream this he was it Craig
- 59:45Mason Craig Mason and he's doing the last of us next that's his next big
- 59:49project yeah right it's just beautifully written M like that scene where the the
- 59:54D the human cost of it like
- 1:00:56but it's they not a lot of money oh just a that [ __ ] about just so many like the
- 1:01:01the the doer meters they have only go up to like 3600 rocking rocking and they're
- 1:01:05like oh yeah that's not so bad and then the guys are like but you can't question
- 1:01:09authority so the guys like I think that's just what the meter goes up to no
- 1:01:13no it's fine it's maxed that number that number's fine like no but that's the no
- 1:01:17it's fine get in there like all right all dead whereas if they had have been
- 1:01:22like one of the things if they had have been honest at the start they probably
- 1:01:25would have got more money and funding and help well and but they can't ask the
- 1:01:29Americans that's that's one of the big themes is like maybe the Americans have
- 1:01:32something and he's like don't be stupid we ask the West can't even know about
- 1:01:36this like so they lie about it like there there's 48 hours there where they
- 1:01:42think it's going to blow up and take out all of Europe and they're like well
- 1:01:45don't tell anyone like we can't tell them it's going to happen like we've
- 1:01:48just got to try and fix it before it happens like I can understand not
- 1:01:54publicly telling people but no but they lie making governments aware one of the
- 1:01:59big themes is just it's just lies so crazy that's one of things like if
- 1:02:04something like that is going to happen telling the public and causing mass
- 1:02:08panic isn't actually going to help anything mhm and then yeah the fireman
- 1:02:13they just that that was really upsetting actually cuz that's not a nice way to
- 1:02:17die and they really sold that like [ __ ] horrific radiation poisoning at
- 1:02:23that level Christ yeah to shock you both I'm not going to watch
- 1:02:29this I don't think you should it's got some moments of levity
- 1:02:34like there's some funny moments but they're actually not that funny it's
- 1:02:38just that they're just so nice with everything that's going on
- 1:02:43like it's a bit where Boris was after the German robot and he smashes the
- 1:02:47phone cuz he finds out the government lied to the German government about the
- 1:02:51level of radiation that's why they get so he gets M he smashes the [ __ ]
- 1:02:54phone and he like drags the out of the office and he's yelling at everybody and
- 1:02:57then he looks at one guy and he goes I need a new phone and I laughed just
- 1:03:01because it was just like this little moment it's not that funny but it really
- 1:03:06was at that moment cuz I was the scene was just so intense anyway yeah loved it
- 1:03:12Welcome to our comedy podcast and his explanation in court of how it how it
- 1:03:17happened is fantastic yes what a great
- 1:03:22scene yeah Chernobyl hilarious uh I think I will give it a
- 1:03:27I'd have to read that would or I no no no no no no actually that's my head it's
- 1:03:33it's they gave people they're all British accents because they didn't want
- 1:03:36it to sound American but they also realized that if they had people
- 1:03:39speaking like Ukrainian and Russian the audience would be severely limited so
- 1:03:45yeah but it works because they kind of
- 1:03:50like the the working class have working class British accesss yeah you [ __ ]
- 1:03:55miners are so fantastic the miners are [ __ ]
- 1:04:00amazing they they the guy in the suit and they all walk past and they give him
- 1:04:04give him a pat and he's just all covered in cold dust and [ __ ] it's such it's
- 1:04:08really great Luke but don't watch it yeah [ __ ] hell it's Bleak it's true
- 1:04:14if these masks worked you'd be wearing them I'm going to shock the both of you
- 1:04:19what I'm about to say next mhm mhm I am
- 1:04:23considering reading a book oh any B in particular or are you just considering
- 1:04:29trying it out it's not Dione is it no I'm not I'm thinking about reading a
- 1:04:34book and but what I'm going to stay away from the books I used to read so I used
- 1:04:39to like read Star Wars um no interest in them anymore eh okay it's not no
- 1:04:44interest Star Wars there was another series of books I quite liked um like
- 1:04:48the Halo novels and stuff but I realized going into any of those novels that I
- 1:04:54need to have a lot of knowledge to really get the full out so I'm thinking
- 1:04:58about just words book at random yeah just reading a book and read book yeah
- 1:05:04reading a good book try it because um just thinking about those kind of
- 1:05:10franchise books a book will give you the information you need to read it as you
- 1:05:16read it's amazing sometimes well I tell you what I'm reading right now I'm I'm
- 1:05:21currently reading um a book called truly like lightning which is written by a
- 1:05:26novelist by the name of David davney oh and it started out pretty promising I'm
- 1:05:32about halfway through and I'm really struggling to find reasons to pick it
- 1:05:36up but uh all right you whatever really the latest David dukov is not
- 1:05:43good actually his Pros is quite good it's just I kind of he's I just I I
- 1:05:50always forget and I just remembered because you said his name that he plays
- 1:05:52that trans FBI agent in Twin Peaks I always forget that that's a thing David
- 1:05:57doovy played the um forgot her name but yeah I always forget that was him I
- 1:06:03forgot about him in general so you don't even know what you're going to read
- 1:06:07you're just going to read something no I'm just thinking about reading a book
- 1:06:11okay what kind of B recommendations Matt I yeah Matt and I read enough books that
- 1:06:15I think between we could recog I like science fiction okay yeah I read a great
- 1:06:21science fiction book a couple of months ago called roadside picnic
- 1:06:26which is what stalker is based on ah
- 1:06:31Chernobyl mhm I can recommend a good science fiction book it's called only
- 1:06:36forward that's a good one I can recommend one mhm uh no I can't you
- 1:06:43recommend it to yourself and you've forgotten I've forgotten it American
- 1:06:46Gods is in all seriousness anything by Ura Lin it's one of my favorite books I
- 1:06:52can't remember the name of it that's um Starship Troopers by Robert E heand oh
- 1:06:58yeah no it's I do love that book it is great it is don't read the road by comic
- 1:07:05McCarthy you won't like it no unless you want to kill yourself yeah and then go
- 1:07:10for it read it I read that recently I can't remember Jesus the songs of
- 1:07:14distant Earth okay oh I don't know I haven't read that you can tell us about
- 1:07:18that but first mat have you I don't remember it um it's a cour m McCarthy
- 1:07:23book about a a woman who gets pregnant by her brother
- 1:07:28and then oh he puts the baby out in the woods somebody steals it and then she
- 1:07:33goes psycho so he has to track down the baby for her I don't remember the name
- 1:07:36of it either I haven't read it I know I know that it exists I've got uhon does
- 1:07:41this thing right where you buy a Kindle you buy one Kindle book by an author and
- 1:07:44then they send you yeah yeah it really wants you to do you want the rest of
- 1:07:47them for like $2 each and I was like well I I do actually so I've got a kind
- 1:07:52of a queue of kic McCarthy ready to go and that's one of them
- 1:07:56if you if you don't want to kill yourself um just don't read that one
- 1:08:02just don't read that one just don't read that's kind of his thing isn't it yeah
- 1:08:06man it is it is so [ __ ] Bleak he keeps raising the bar on
- 1:08:12himself or lowering the bar really does yeah yeah yeah that's the other thing it needs to
- 1:08:18be cheerful cheerful I think only four
- 1:08:22is a good one okay I will look into only forward then so what was yours luk what
- 1:08:28were you recommending to yourself um after Clark novel there's
- 1:08:33songs of distant Earth was one and there's another one I'm just trying to
- 1:08:37remember um ah child childhood's end
- 1:08:42Luke if you want the most fun sci-fi book
- 1:08:47ever snow crash by Neil Stevenson snow crash is good yeah snow crash is great
- 1:08:53it's long it's thick snow crash uh in the future it's about a pizza
- 1:08:59delivery boy um delivering pizzas is so dangerous that they have to be elite
- 1:09:04ninjas so he has a samurai sword that he carries with him samurai sword and a
- 1:09:09Lamborghini um okay he it's really good trying to think what it's actually about
- 1:09:15it's it's about it's about a drug a digital drug that you can only take
- 1:09:20while you're in the internet but it kills you in real life y why would
- 1:09:24someone take that uh you got to read the book many reasons many reasons that you
- 1:09:29should uh you should look into it's got a guy with a nuclear
- 1:09:33bike yes y it's great oh he's a great character too all right well first thing
- 1:09:39I have to do is find my Kindle it's called out of dark Matt avoid it delete
- 1:09:43it from your Kindle right now okay all right I will going to go find mine
- 1:09:49charge it and then probably think about it a little bit more decide if you
- 1:09:54really want to read a book and what that says about you if you do you're going to
- 1:09:59be one of those people like Dan and I readers yeah filthy readers I I did used
- 1:10:05to read and I read quite a lot I'd read like one or two books a week yeah but
- 1:10:10that's when I was living in Sydney and catching your train to and from
- 1:10:13work now I don't know reading to me you have to stop what you're doing and read
- 1:10:18especially on your way to work do you ride a motorbike to work yeah but yeah I
- 1:10:22could be playing a game or watching television or playing a game and
- 1:10:26watching television why would I stop and read a book that's the thing I mean
- 1:10:30that's just one more thing you could be doing yeah but I don't think I can pay
- 1:10:35attention to three things at once no no no well four things cuz I've got
- 1:10:40achievement guides up television show and Xbox I wouldn't try and read and and
- 1:10:46do something else but I wouldn't try and do any of those things and do something
- 1:10:49else at the same time but I don't know I get distracted L yeah audio book
- 1:10:56go to the gym no that's all for this week thank you for listening and we hope
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