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- 0:00Welcome to unspoken career truths.
- 0:02I'm Cara Wood. And I'm Lauren Levac Gilbert.
- 0:05And we're here to be the coworkers you can trust.
- 0:09Today we're going to talk about leadership, specifically servant
- 0:12leadership. There's so many different types
- 0:15of leadership styles, but this is one that I was introduced to
- 0:17early in my career and it really resonated with me.
- 0:21Cara was that it's. Funny, servant leadership was
- 0:24the first style of leadership that anyone told me about.
- 0:28Me too. That's funny.
- 0:30Yeah, same here. So let's define it because if
- 0:32you don't know what it is, what is servant leadership?
- 0:34It is a philosophy that was actually coined by Robert K
- 0:37Greenleaf, where a leader's primary goal is to serve
- 0:41employees and prioritize their needs, growth, and well-being.
- 0:44Servant leaders share power, they foster trust, they remove
- 0:48obstacles, ultimately aiming to empower individuals to reach
- 0:52their highest potential. Is that how you understand it,
- 0:55Cara? Yeah, the prioritizing
- 0:57well-being sticks out to me. I've always just acquainted
- 1:01servant leadership with a very specific you're getting
- 1:05roadblocks out of people's way and you are there to help them
- 1:08grow. But I love that idea of
- 1:11prioritizing well-being and fostering trust.
- 1:13I feel like really aligns with a lot of the best workplaces right
- 1:17now. And focusing on the whole human,
- 1:20I think, is really important, right?
- 1:21Because we have so many elements of things that happen outside
- 1:23and inside the workplace. And so it's really important to
- 1:27think about that. Yeah.
- 1:28Early in my career, I was aspiring to be a servant leader.
- 1:32And then about I think maybe 10 years and I had this pivot
- 1:37because I was exposed to another kind of leadership that is
- 1:40called authentic leadership. And you're still doing a lot of
- 1:43this stuff where you're thinking about well-being, but instead of
- 1:48always prioritizing the people that are on your team, you're
- 1:52prioritizing truth and betterment.
- 1:55And that isn't necessarily always what the individual
- 1:59needs. It might be what's best for the
- 2:01larger team, and it also needs to be authentic to you and.
- 2:05I think it's important to state like this doesn't have to be a,
- 2:08I'm only a servant leader, I'm only an authentic leader, right?
- 2:11These are just different types of styles and it's kind of like
- 2:13a menu of options, like pick the pieces of it that you like and
- 2:17how you want to employ them for your team.
- 2:19It doesn't mean you have to kind of stay in a bucket.
- 2:21Yeah, we talked last week about how leadership's a journey, and
- 2:24so it's really important for you to just understand the different
- 2:26styles. I've got some good good stats
- 2:28about servant leadership. Managers are the biggest and
- 2:31engagement. It's super important to be
- 2:33connected to your manager, to feel like have your back.
- 2:35Gallup says managers account for 70% of the variance in team
- 2:39engagement, which makes leadership style a major
- 2:42business variable. I read another study the other
- 2:45day that said that having a good manager was the number one
- 2:49indicator of success at work. Oh yeah.
- 2:52I mean, what do they say? That people don't leave bad
- 2:55jobs, they leave bad bosses. This person is responsible a lot
- 2:59of the time for your workload and for just the environment in
- 3:02which you work. Speaking of environment, Gallup
- 3:04also found that when employees strongly agree they've had
- 3:07opportunities to provide honest feedback about their
- 3:10organization, they're 7.4 times as likely to have confidence in
- 3:14their leaders at managing new challenges that pop up.
- 3:17And that's a really important thing because things are
- 3:19changing and you want your team members to feel like you're able
- 3:23to help them navigate and help them and their careers.
- 3:27That speaks to the strength of the servant leadership type.
- 3:29This is already set up to be the kind of leader who's always
- 3:33asking for feedback and always making space for people to share
- 3:37what they're thinking and what's going on.
- 3:38Totally agree. So let's talk a bit about the
- 3:41key principles of servant leadership, emphasizing personal
- 3:45growth and well-being, focusing on the whole human things like
- 3:48active listening, empathy, self-awareness, making sure that
- 3:53you're understanding how your energy is impacting the broader
- 3:56team. Empowerment is another really
- 3:58big one. Fostering A collaborative
- 4:00environment, encouraging team members to participate, bringing
- 4:05them into the decision making stewardship, so taking
- 4:09responsibility for the team, acting as stewards to support
- 4:13the broader organization. I think of that as the business
- 4:17owner mindset. How can you make sure that what
- 4:20you're doing is also connected to the broader mission and
- 4:22focus? And some of the core values are
- 4:25really kind of humility, trust, high ethics, a lot of respect.
- 4:30Car. Did I miss anything?
- 4:31You know, I think this is great and I think it aligns, but I
- 4:33want to posit something which is, which is just that this
- 4:37sounds like an amazing manager to work for, but is it an
- 4:41amazing manager to manage? This behavior is fantastic when
- 4:46you're reporting up, when I think servant leadership
- 4:49neglects is all of the managing up that also has to take place.
- 4:52So I'm not saying that any of this is bad, but there's more
- 4:56skills. There's so much to leadership.
- 4:59I think that's a great point. And there's another element of
- 5:02it that this sounds like the manager is giving, right?
- 5:05Like a lot of giving of themselves.
- 5:07And that doesn't mean that you should get to burnout.
- 5:11Like empathy without boundaries leads to burnout.
- 5:15You can care deeply without having to carry everyone's
- 5:18emotions. You can still be compassionate
- 5:21and have boundaries. You can still be supportive, and
- 5:23you can say no. So this is also a delicate
- 5:25balance. And as we're talking about it, I
- 5:27want to make sure that that is very specifically called out.
- 5:30Yeah. And I think there's a lot of
- 5:31people out there who, and I, because I think this is
- 5:33increasingly happening where you're a manager of a team, but
- 5:37you're also an individual contributor.
- 5:38And so to your point about burnout, you have to decide or
- 5:42set boundaries around what kind of servant leader you can be.
- 5:46And this is also going to depend on which kind of organization
- 5:49you're in. Is everyone on the organization
- 5:51on board with servant leadership?
- 5:53That's going to be a different organization to work with than
- 5:56one that isn't. So let's talk about some
- 5:59examples of how you can act as a servant leader.
- 6:02One of my favorites is removing roadblocks.
- 6:06Take all of the organizational issues that are coming to you,
- 6:10provide a safety net and only provide the kind of necessary
- 6:14information and make sure that everyone feels comfortable with
- 6:17it and they're understanding how it's connected to the broader
- 6:20organization. Once I was in an elevator and I
- 6:25made an offhanded comment to another Co worker that a manager
- 6:29who was a skip manager. So 2 managers above me overheard
- 6:33and that person immediately said hey I want to talk to you
- 6:39because the comment was about being overwhelmed with the
- 6:42workload and that was happening at the company.
- 6:45They took me aside and walked me through the next six months of
- 6:49plans that would alleviate that. Was it very?
- 6:52Yeah, it was awesome 'cause they immediately recognized this
- 6:56signal of frustration that was very valid.
- 7:00And they were like, hey, I hear you, it's valid, here's what I'm
- 7:03doing. What is your input back to me?
- 7:05The prioritization of I see this and I know what it could mean
- 7:10and I want to address it right away.
- 7:12Was so powerful for me that as an example of servant leadership
- 7:16that you again are so attuned to what could be going on already,
- 7:21like anticipating what needs to be done.
- 7:23Hey I see your problem and here's what I'm doing to solve
- 7:26it. That validation element is so,
- 7:29so important. Like it makes such a difference.
- 7:31If someone feels validated in how they feel, a lot of that is
- 7:34like mentorship, like coaching and mentoring and helping to
- 7:37understand how to develop their skills or think through
- 7:41problems. Mentorship is a really big part
- 7:44of servant leadership, and I've seen that a lot throughout my
- 7:48career. Yeah.
- 7:49The other thing about serving leadership is that there is a
- 7:51humility to it that recognizes that the people around you are
- 7:56also leaders or potential leaders.
- 7:58You're managing their performance so that they can
- 8:01reach their own personal goals and goals for the company.
- 8:03It's not about you at all. 100% And I think from a servant
- 8:09leadership perspective, you serve and you lead.
- 8:12I think that's an important distinction.
- 8:14You have to make sure that it's not just passive and you're not
- 8:17just receiving all of the emotions and the feelings and
- 8:19everything that's happening. And there's some good questions.
- 8:23I like that kind of help you think through being a servant
- 8:27leadership on your team. And one of them is what does my
- 8:30team need to do their best work or what do they need in order to
- 8:34do that? And that could be an environment
- 8:37change, that could be more information, that could be more
- 8:39flexibility. Yes, there was one time when I
- 8:43answered that question with Fudge.
- 8:46I. Love to just have fudge.
- 8:48It's Fridays. It was like, there's fudge and
- 8:51it's Friday and we're at the end of our week and I would get to
- 8:54collect all of the stories that had happened but also distribute
- 8:58fudge. But that's a great example
- 9:00because it can be simple. The other question I really like
- 9:02what obstacles can I remove? And as a servant leader, you
- 9:06want to focus on what are those things that I can get out of the
- 9:10way of my team so they can do their best work?
- 9:13Yeah, and I think one of the most the trickiest ones.
- 9:15Sometimes the answer is something you're doing,
- 9:18recognizing when it might be a process or a request or
- 9:23something that the team has grown out of that they don't
- 9:25need any more, and either recognizing that or being open
- 9:28enough to to hear it. Being open enough to hear it.
- 9:31That's a really excellent point. Another good question.
- 9:34I really like how do I create clarity, trust, and
- 9:36accountability? You can't just take everything
- 9:39on from everyone. There still needs to be
- 9:41accountability on the team. So how can you create that?
- 9:44And how can you empower your team to go and execute on the
- 9:48things that they need to? And you're there to help block
- 9:51barriers, you're there to coach, but you're not giving them the
- 9:55answers. Yeah, and honestly, who wants
- 9:58that out of a job? Do you want some pride in the
- 10:01job you're doing? You want ownership?
- 10:02So if you're the kind of person that's gravitating towards
- 10:05servant leadership cuz you're like I wanna do for other
- 10:07people, just remember part of doing for them is giving them
- 10:10the space to do their work and assign them things they can
- 10:14totally own. 100% servant leadership is very different
- 10:18from just avoiding hard conversations or doing the job
- 10:22for them, saying yes to everything or absorbing other
- 10:25people's stress. That's not what we're talking
- 10:27about here. And I think if you're early on
- 10:29in your career journey and you want to be a servant leader and
- 10:32you're thinking through this, some of those things can
- 10:34naturally just happen because you want to be a good leader.
- 10:37You want people to like you, you want your team to feel great.
- 10:40But it's important to take a step back, ask some of those
- 10:42questions and make sure you're separating a serving and
- 10:45leading. Yeah.
- 10:49So the best servant leaders really create more leaders, and
- 10:53the goal is not to be indispensable.
- 10:55I think that's another thing about leadership that's really
- 10:57hard. If your team is doing amazing
- 10:59work, you don't necessarily get the credit for it.
- 11:02You're spotlighting your team members.
- 11:04It's not as visible as recognition when you were maybe
- 11:08an individual contributor, and that can be a hard adjustment.
- 11:11Yeah, one of the best things, I think about it all the time.
- 11:14I had a team of three and for a year, two of them won awards.
- 11:18I didn't win any awards that year, but you know what?
- 11:20Two of the three people on my team did and I was like, this is
- 11:23a secret win for me. Obviously we celebrated them.
- 11:25It's a win for them, but I was like secret win for me.
- 11:28Yes, 100%. It's very, very natural.
- 11:31That's what it means to be a servant leader.
- 11:33It means you're doing the right thing and you're doing a good
- 11:34job. I have a question, Lauren, since
- 11:36we're talking about how amazing servant leaders are, how do you
- 11:40determine that you are about to join the team of a servant
- 11:43leader or that your boss might be 1?
- 11:45What's your tells of that? Someone might be a servant
- 11:48leader? That was an excellent question
- 11:52for me. It would be they ask about me as
- 11:54a human. They want to get to know me
- 11:57versus just like what I've done in my job and every servant
- 12:01leader I've ever had talked about me and my career and what
- 12:04I wanted and what I've learned. They were trying to understand
- 12:06me as a human. And they were the ones that
- 12:10helped me in my career and helped me get these roles that I
- 12:12never would have thought of. And it was something that when I
- 12:16was early in my career in those one on ones, I was like, this is
- 12:19kind of weird. Why aren't we talking about my
- 12:21projects? But.
- 12:22I am with you. That freaks me out so much.
- 12:24I still like second guess it, but you're absolutely right.
- 12:27It's like a perfect tell that someone actually cares about
- 12:30you. I think we're sort of trained to
- 12:32iguana. OK, let me prove myself or let's
- 12:35talk about all this business stuff.
- 12:37But you're right, that's a huge tell is when someone cares just
- 12:40about what's going on in your week.
- 12:42And as a manager, when you have that information, it actually
- 12:46helps so much. To understand.
- 12:48Where the person's coming from and what is going to really
- 12:51light them up. Do you have a different tell
- 12:53Cara? For me, whenever I hear someone
- 12:57telling a story of a project and they can reference the
- 13:01individual contributions of multiple people by name, just as
- 13:05soon as someone is sharing credit and really highlighting
- 13:08not just thanks to the whole team, but specifics and
- 13:12sometimes specific roadblocks. Like someone struggles with this
- 13:15and they put in this amount of hours and they got it solved.
- 13:19And whenever I hear someone tell a story like that, I I think
- 13:21that is a that's a servant leader who really recognizes the
- 13:24contribution of each individual. And then another one, just a
- 13:27trait, is often patience. When someone is that's a.
- 13:31Good one. Willing to just take another
- 13:34couple of beats on something that to me also indicates that
- 13:37the person is not necessarily, but often is a servant leader.
- 13:42Patience is something I definitely had to learn and it
- 13:46has been a journey for me, but it's definitely super impactful,
- 13:50yeah. It's a really tough one.
- 13:51I just was at an event this morning and everyone was talking
- 13:54about that drive for the results and how we can all just be so
- 13:58focused on that and miss out on nuance and build really genuine
- 14:03authenticity that comes when you're focused on one-on-one
- 14:07relationships. The person was talking about
- 14:09growing her small business and how actually understanding one
- 14:12client helped translate across multiple clients, but had to
- 14:16happen on that one client by one client moment.
- 14:19And that's slow. That feels slow when you're
- 14:21trying to grow. But it's a learning experience
- 14:23and everything's a journey, right Cara?
- 14:25Totally, that seems to be the theme of Leadership month if you
- 14:30are on a leadership journey. For your whole life, yeah.
- 14:35So to wrap it up, servant leadership is really about
- 14:37leading in a way that helps people thrive, help teams
- 14:40perform, help them grow, while still setting boundaries.
- 14:44You do not have to choose between being supportive and
- 14:46being ambitious. Servant leadership is really
- 14:49about empowering others, and the best leaders really make space
- 14:53for others to grow while owning their own value as well.
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