Latest / Kennel Talk Podcast / EP 165 Squaddin n Poddin
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- 0:00What's up, What's up? Welcome to another episode of
- 0:02Kenneth Hall podcast Your boy cadet, the bolegged assassin and
- 0:06we got a guest podcast the members of Squadron and Potter
- 0:10man, brand new podcast on the scene.
- 0:13What's going on? What's up with y'all man?
- 0:17How y'all living bro man? We good.
- 0:20You want us to tell us about our week?
- 0:22Man, go ahead, man. Shit.
- 0:25What's what's y'all *** had going on?
- 0:27What's y'all had going on today? How about that?
- 0:30Hey man, we was just having a great conversation with Kennel
- 0:33Talk and the host cadet. He so kindly invited us as it
- 0:38invited us into his space and we're just happy to be here,
- 0:41man. Word I got Lou.
- 0:43Lou been on the podcast before. Got his little Big Brother Dre.
- 0:47You feel me? Yes, Sir.
- 0:49And the man with the plan we here Louis V Lou Hack man here
- 0:54we live. Word I ain't got Kid G on here,
- 0:57man. Sorry brother, it's probably
- 0:58going to be the third episode. He ain't been on the podcast.
- 1:02It was 1 episode with some ladies.
- 1:04I had to kick him off because I know he was going to be flirting
- 1:06the whole time. So I'm like sorry.
- 1:10Sorry, Sir. That's funny.
- 1:12I'm going to give the pause first, but we need your head in
- 1:14a little more. On which one?
- 1:18The laptop, yeah. Oh God, see, I can't even see
- 1:21that joint. Hold on.
- 1:23Yeah, just tilt it down a little bit and you'll be good.
- 1:26Yeah, There you go. That's good.
- 1:28Yo, what the fuck is going on bro?
- 1:31All right. Pat.
- 1:32You know, all right. Hey, so I wanted to get y'all on
- 1:39the episode. You feel me?
- 1:40Want to talk about fatherhood real quick, man, I know, Pat.
- 1:44You got two that. Hey, what?
- 1:45That 2 just came out of nowhere. You know, Dre, you got one.
- 1:49And then we got Uncle Lou in the building.
- 1:50I'm gonna get. I'm gonna get your perspective
- 1:52as well as Uncle Lou. So the the first topic I want to
- 1:57talk about was like, what was your first thoughts after
- 1:59hearing that your your lady was pregnant?
- 2:02Who wants to go first? I'll go.
- 2:06Yeah. I think I'm the longest father
- 2:08on here. Yeah.
- 2:09How old is your daughter? She is 9.
- 2:12OK, yeah, you definitely got it. She.
- 2:14Is 9. So for me, my wife had a dream a
- 2:24few days before. She actually told me, but she
- 2:26had a dream saying, oh, yeah, hey, I had a dream that I was
- 2:29pregnant. And I was like, you're crazy.
- 2:32You're not pregnant. Like, what are you talking
- 2:33about? Why are you saying that?
- 2:36And so then a few days later, I came home from work and she had
- 2:41like a little gift bag on the bed.
- 2:43Then it's just a random day. I'm like, why is this gift bag
- 2:45here? I pick up the gift bag.
- 2:46It felt light. It felt like it was empty.
- 2:49She's like giggling. I'm like, OK, what's going on
- 2:52here? Then I reach in and there's a, a
- 2:55test, a pregnancy test in there. I look at it and it said
- 3:00pregnant. And immediately I, I don't, you
- 3:03know, honestly, I don't know what my immediate thoughts were,
- 3:06but I was just really, I like, like, are you for real?
- 3:09Like this is real. And she's like, yeah, this is, I
- 3:11took the test today and, and it's pregnant.
- 3:13And so I, I think my, I think my immediate thought was like,
- 3:21like, I'm not ready for this. Like what do we like, what, what
- 3:24do we do? What's the next?
- 3:25How old were you? 2520.
- 3:28Five, OK. 25 S young, younger, younger father than obviously
- 3:35everybody here since since, you know, I did first, but it I
- 3:38think my first thought was like, what do I do next?
- 3:42Like how do I prepare for this? I'm a person that likes being
- 3:47prepared, so I mean, obviously there's some excitement too,
- 3:51like you're going to be a dad, but it is more fear than
- 3:54excitement for me. 25. Yeah, 25 is a little different.
- 4:01I don't think I was. 25 I'd be panicking.
- 4:04Yeah, 'cause I'm like, I was. Mine's a little different
- 4:08situation. How was you?
- 4:12How was it 2023 or 26? I was like 32.
- 4:16So I'm I'm cool at that point. You feel me?
- 4:19The first child, yeah, because she got, she got pregnant 2022.
- 4:24We got our baby in 2023. So yeah, the fear of side of
- 4:27things wasn't there. It was more excitement than
- 4:30anything. I can't even say I remember like
- 4:33the whole situation. I just know I was just like
- 4:35excited. Like I was excited to find out
- 4:37the sex. I wasn't trying to do the
- 4:38waiting bullshit like, Nah, I want to know, you feel me?
- 4:42And I was very excited as a girl because I got a niece and she
- 4:45kind of changed my perspective on that.
- 4:47But that's another topic we'll get into.
- 4:50What about you, Packed? How did you feel the first time
- 4:52you heard that your lady was pregnant?
- 4:55Wait, did you say your baby was born in 23?
- 4:57Yeah. What month?
- 4:59February, Valentine's Day. February.
- 5:03I hope, yeah. That makes.
- 5:05She bought to be 3. Astrology shit.
- 5:10She Aquarius. My daughter's an aquarium bro.
- 5:15She's an asshole just like me, bro.
- 5:19I don't even judge her. OK, OK, OK Don't even judge her,
- 5:22bro. I ain't even gonna care.
- 5:23I. Can't 'cause I don't even know
- 5:24what to do with that information.
- 5:26Sometimes I just ask to see if it's one of the ones that I
- 5:28actually know shit about. I know about aquariuses and
- 5:31sagges. I know sagges ain't shit.
- 5:34And that's all I know. Yeah.
- 5:36And then my wife is a Libra. You feel me?
- 5:38I I I know. I vibe with libras.
- 5:41That's it. That's funny.
- 5:45Yeah, when I found out it was, it was just so perfect.
- 5:48I mean, everything happened so fast.
- 5:50I literally met my wife in the middle of June 2023.
- 5:56And then she was telling me by September here, September, she
- 5:59told me she was pregnant. I think it was.
- 6:00Yeah, September. So it was what, like, what's
- 6:03that? Three months.
- 6:05OK it. Was quick, it was fast and
- 6:06planned. Like I remember when we fucked
- 6:11we literally said let's have a baby.
- 6:14She wanted mines I wanted her to have it and then we had sex to
- 6:17have it one for one show and she told me yes.
- 6:22Like, I left Montreal and then when I think I was on the road,
- 6:25she showed me the pregnancy thing and she was like, wow,
- 6:29we're pregnant. You said within three months.
- 6:31She three months after I met her, Yeah.
- 6:33Bro, what, what kind of vibe she had to do that?
- 6:36That's, that's, that's crazy. What type of what, what, what
- 6:38type of vibe? Like, what was her vibe that
- 6:42made you get to that point where you're just like, yeah.
- 6:46Oh well, I just got out of something.
- 6:54What do you mean? I ain't asking you no shit about
- 6:57that, *** Oh my goodness it. Was literally like I was just in
- 7:20something for five years. When I met my wife, it was six
- 7:25months after the five year relationship was for sure done.
- 7:30Like the year before it was for sure done.
- 7:32It was just kind of like that Gray area break, not sure trying
- 7:36to see, but six months after. So when she met me, I was like
- 7:39actually outside and I had no plans to be with nobody.
- 7:44That's how that's how it happens.
- 7:46That's how it happens like that. This was my hot boys summer.
- 7:49I was ready and I also knew what I wanted in a girl.
- 7:55I wasn't even thinking wife, like next girl's going to be my
- 7:57wife. I just knew what type of girl I
- 7:59would tolerate. And when I met her, she was just
- 8:03checking boxes off fast and we would talk every day.
- 8:06Like she's in Montreal, I'm in the truck.
- 8:08So there's a lot of Facetiming going on and we talked, we, I
- 8:12mean, we talked a lot for like one week and just that one week
- 8:15was just like, all right, I'm going to come see you in like 2
- 8:17weeks. All right, bet.
- 8:20And then all it all, it really took from that point to when I
- 8:23saw her with all the conversations we had, I already
- 8:26knew I really liked her and I really wanted to fuck her.
- 8:29I knew that. So at this point all I needed to
- 8:35know is how she looked right in front of me and the sex got to
- 8:39be good. That's the only things I need.
- 8:42So I met her seen her look just as good as she did on FaceTime.
- 8:45Everything was checking out sex, mid sex we just stopped.
- 8:48Like in the middle fuck we just stopped and we were staring at
- 8:50each other and in that moment of staring at I just remember
- 8:54thinking in my head like. Fuck, she put that shit on that
- 8:57*** I love this girl shit. So I knew I loved her.
- 9:03So you had the emotional connection already there.
- 9:05That's what it sounded like. Yeah, everything was there.
- 9:07We just needed to check off the physical.
- 9:09And then once that was checked off, then it was just like,
- 9:11damn. So then one thing led to
- 9:15another, like maybe a couple months later after seeing each
- 9:18other, she was the first one to bring up like, I want to have
- 9:21your babies. And it didn't scare me at all.
- 9:24It was just kind of like, yeah, you for sure can let's do it.
- 9:29And. We just did it.
- 9:31She got pregnant right away and it was just like, yo what I
- 9:33have? A baby.
- 9:34This is crazy catch you just you reminded me of a situation and
- 9:38and Lou noticed this girl this this from college this girl we
- 9:42was having sex one time and I knew she wanted to get pregnant,
- 9:45but then I was playing around one time when we fucking we
- 9:47fucking I'm like off in the bus and I felt her grip get tighter.
- 9:52I say yeah right *** psyche. He got 5 more minutes bro hell
- 9:57no. And you know how to talk about
- 10:00model model type. You remember her shot of Herman?
- 10:04Great woman, great woman. Respectfully.
- 10:07Yeah, respectfully because she married with her situation,
- 10:10there's a lot of people have disrespect on it, but not her.
- 10:13So, Luke. But I also want to add to.
- 10:15That OK, motherfucker, go ahead. I I find there's a difference in
- 10:20feeling. When I found out about my first,
- 10:24then my second, now the second was planned that we would do
- 10:31that this September, September 2026, we're going to go forward
- 10:35and have a second. So to find out my wife was
- 10:38pregnant last April. When we both find out it was
- 10:42just kind of like oh fuck want to have another kid but damn
- 10:47this is mad. Soon like she just started
- 10:49working out again, started feeling herself like we're back
- 10:52to just being us again. We got my mom watching the baby.
- 10:55It's like yo we're back it's us. And then she found out again.
- 10:58It was like, damn, we just got out of that.
- 11:01I want to talk about that. Feeling was different.
- 11:03Let's remember that the conversation about the the
- 11:05physique of the woman. OK, but I'm gonna let Lube.
- 11:08This is 1 aspect we never talk about.
- 11:10Like the brothers, the siblings, the family members when they
- 11:13find out, you know the person they grew up with is now having
- 11:15a child. So how was it for you?
- 11:17Like hearing that you were becoming an uncle.
- 11:21I don't really have a long story.
- 11:23I was happy, I was happy. I was ready to support where I
- 11:28drove down to Gainesville to see the baby.
- 11:30Amelia is a different case. She was, she was premature.
- 11:33OK, so she was. Yeah, she was early.
- 11:37She was premature. So I drove down all supportive.
- 11:40I've always been there. Oh, Dre, you in Gainesville now?
- 11:42I was. Just happy for him when I found
- 11:44out. Nah, bro, that's a that's a
- 11:46story. She was born in Gainesville, but
- 11:49we we lived in Central Florida. OK, Yeah, OK.
- 11:52Well, that's the whole story. Yeah.
- 11:54We, we got to get to. It's all good, man.
- 11:57Yeah, alright, 'cause you know, I have my cousins 'cause I, I
- 12:00think I still got videos of like when I told my cousins, like one
- 12:03of my cousin I grew up with since diapers, like he's really
- 12:05my brother and like dumb boys was like excited.
- 12:08I'm talking about like jumping up and down with me as if like I
- 12:10won the lottery type shit. But you kind of glanced
- 12:15something that I didn't, I didn't have as a topic, but it
- 12:18is something I I was thinking about right is like, do you OK?
- 12:23This probably goes more to the pack.
- 12:24Do you feel guilty bro? Like the second baby, like
- 12:28you're hijacking this woman's body, bro.
- 12:30Like, 'cause my wife, she got pregnant.
- 12:33We, I got her pregnant. Thanksgiving of like, what was
- 12:36this, 2024, right? I remember when that shit
- 12:39happened cause the food was busting and I had to bust.
- 12:41So I remember what happened and I just remember like feeling
- 12:48guilty, 'cause she was back in her swing of like working out.
- 12:51And she's always been used to her body being a certain way.
- 12:54But we all know what happens, you know, babies change things
- 12:57or whatever. So I always had that in my back
- 12:58of my head. I'm just like damn, like I don't
- 13:01know how *** be out here just getting girls pregnant.
- 13:03You busting 7 babies out of them.
- 13:05Like you just said, fuck what they want.
- 13:09Yeah. Damn that's a good ass question
- 13:12because it's definitely something I dealt with.
- 13:16Not only did I feel guilty for what you're saying as far as
- 13:20taking her out of getting back to herself and she was really
- 13:25like when she was working out, like I felt guilty because I
- 13:29wasn't working out like she was. I'm like, man, you really like
- 13:32putting it, putting work in. And I mean, granted, I was busy
- 13:35like working, but I wasn't working out like she was.
- 13:39And I was proud of her and she was proud of herself.
- 13:41And I could see her glow and her feeling herself And then like us
- 13:44having drinks and like hanging out like we was like back.
- 13:47I'm like, yo, we're back. And then when she found out, and
- 13:49when we found out, it slowly turned into a guilt because at
- 13:53first it was like, Oh no, damn, way too early.
- 13:56Fuck. And then it turned into like,
- 13:58well, well, you'll be done sooner or will be done sooner.
- 14:03This is. A good thing.
- 14:04And a lot of people can't get pregnant.
- 14:06This is a blessing. So then we started looking at
- 14:08the positive. But I think on top of the fact
- 14:12that I'm away from home all the time and then I'm having to see
- 14:15her on FaceTime and phone calls, like as the months go by, her
- 14:19struggling as she gets bigger and I'm still not there.
- 14:21She's. Like trying to deal with our
- 14:24baby and my stepson and. It's a lot just.
- 14:28It was just a lot and I'm just like, damn, none of this would
- 14:32have happened if it wasn't for me.
- 14:33I'm I'm the reason why this is happening.
- 14:36I feel you, I feel you. It's.
- 14:37Hard. It's definitely hard.
- 14:39Even right now, it's hard. It's like, I feel like a lot of
- 14:42a lot of guys don't really think about that aspect, man.
- 14:44Because me personally, I love my wife is like in that mode where
- 14:47she's like motivated. She's in the gym, like working
- 14:50out. Like I like, 'cause that's the
- 14:52person that I married, like the motivated, disciplined person,
- 14:55you know what I'm saying? Like, and you know, that that
- 14:58aspect of things as well as like that postpartum, that's a
- 15:01different aspect that, you know, that we as men got to deal with
- 15:04too, 'cause we got to be the rock for them.
- 15:06And their moment of like, you know, feeling like, you know,
- 15:09they're, they're weak or whatever it may be at the time.
- 15:11But yeah, I felt guilty. And then for me with the second
- 15:17baby, like I wasn't as excited as the first one.
- 15:19I was excited, but not as excited.
- 15:21And for her, she felt like I wasn't happy.
- 15:23And I'm just like, no, I'm cool. I'm just, I've been here
- 15:27already, you know, I mean, like, this is not new.
- 15:30Just got to make sure the baby's healthy, take care of you, make
- 15:32sure you, you eat what you want to eat, but at the same time not
- 15:36eat what you want to eat 'cause we remember what happened the
- 15:37first time, you know, I mean, like, gotta be a little more
- 15:40careful what we intaking, but yeah.
- 15:43I think that goes back to what we were talking earlier with men
- 15:46emotions versus women emotions, especially like a mother.
- 15:50I think when they're pregnant again, it's their first time
- 15:54with this baby where I feel like, oh, it's just like another
- 15:58one. And now because you've already
- 16:01been through it, it's like, all right, we do this, we do that,
- 16:02we do this, we do that. And it's another one.
- 16:04It's just another one. But it's the first this one.
- 16:08For her. And she feels it all.
- 16:10I'm still, I'm still not even connected to my second child
- 16:14yet. Like I, unlike the first one, I
- 16:18got to stay home for like a month and 1/2 after she was
- 16:21born. So I'm shirtless.
- 16:23I got the baby in her diaper. We're doing skin to skin every
- 16:26day for a month and a half versus this one's born and I was
- 16:30gone like within seven days. So right now it's almost a month
- 16:35since I seen the the newborn and I'm still like I'm I'm still
- 16:41processing that I have one like the.
- 16:43First one. Like she's now calling me daddy
- 16:44and it's like she's growing up. She's getting to that place that
- 16:47I always thought about. Like I can't wait till she calls
- 16:49me daddy. And she will walk and get play.
- 16:51Yeah. So we're.
- 16:52There now. And now we're starting over with
- 16:54another one that I need to like, introduce myself to.
- 16:57She don't even know me for him. Yeah, those face times go a long
- 17:01way because I'm, I'm pretty much, I mean, I ain't in the
- 17:03same situation as you, but I've been gone for like about two
- 17:06months since the newborn, but I was able to be home for like,
- 17:11wow, like 3-4 months. I was, I was in Florida, but
- 17:15then I had to come back to Canada 'cause we got a wedding
- 17:18money flying from Canada to Florida.
- 17:21But just know I'll fuck with you if I do that for you, boy,
- 17:23'cause God damn, that shit is not cheap, bro.
- 17:26But shout to Randy. Yeah, yeah, the second baby is
- 17:34for sure. Like you kind of don't stress
- 17:37things the same way you stressed the first one.
- 17:40Like where you like, bro, don't nobody come around my baby.
- 17:43But what's crazy is our second baby, she had what they said was
- 17:48a slight heart murmur. So we had to like monitor her
- 17:50for like a month or whatever. So like, you know, me and wife,
- 17:54are we nervous? And we're just like, yeah, ain't
- 17:55no visits, ain't nobody coming over or none of that shit.
- 17:58You feel me? And people, some people took it
- 18:00personal. It's just like, bro, just just
- 18:03chill. We don't, we ain't trying to put
- 18:04it our information in our business out there.
- 18:06But you know, it's a good reason behind it.
- 18:08Just relax, right? But she's all good.
- 18:10Heart murmur was you know what is it a hole?
- 18:13It's supposed to close like damn near right away.
- 18:14But whatever reason, I'm still open.
- 18:17But she's good. All right, let's go to the next
- 18:21topic here. So with with both of you guys
- 18:24having daughters and you pack being in the same, same place as
- 18:29me, two daughters, has it changed how you look at treating
- 18:33women or even in general just how you look at women period?
- 18:42And that goes to you too, Lucas. Now you got a niece.
- 18:45Treating women, I don't think it's, I don't think it's changed
- 18:52anything for me in, in that trying to think in that aspect.
- 18:59Nah, I don't think it's it's changed anything.
- 19:02Have obviously having a daughter it it it's I feel like it
- 19:07obviously I don't know exactly how it feels, but I I imagine
- 19:09it's different from having a son, but I never.
- 19:17You weren't a you weren't an asshole.
- 19:18Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
- 19:20That's what I'm looking at, the group of people that I'm talking
- 19:22to. And I'm like, yeah, now you feel
- 19:25me? Like I don't think we, we have
- 19:26anybody that could be like, yeah, Lewis or Packer Cadet was
- 19:29like a asshole. Like, Oh my God, he was, you
- 19:32know what I'm saying? Like.
- 19:33Yeah, so I don't think it it ever.
- 19:36It never made me change how I feel about women or how how I
- 19:39look about women with my daughter.
- 19:42I just, you know, I, I, I know she's a girl, but I, I do try to
- 19:47play rough with her a little bit.
- 19:49More than. That's why we're here.
- 19:51Both. Yeah, you know, so get her ready
- 19:53for that. But as far as how I view women
- 19:56or how I look at women or how I treat women, I I've always been
- 20:00a respectful person, whether it be man or woman.
- 20:03So it didn't, it didn't change any of that.
- 20:06Now when she gets into those teenage years and those things
- 20:09start happening, that might make me change.
- 20:13My thought process on that, that because now I'm, I actually have
- 20:16to raise someone going through, you know, hormonal changes and
- 20:21all that that might make me appreciate certain things.
- 20:23I'm scared of that shit. So yeah, As for right now, Nah,
- 20:27nothing, nothing much has changed.
- 20:32I say OK, so how does it work? I think I'll root more for women
- 20:38I always like, you know, I've never been against women like,
- 20:41you know, I want, I want to shit on you, but I definitely feel
- 20:43like I root a lot more for women to win in situations, you know,
- 20:47I mean, like, why not? That's a good one.
- 20:49You know. What was the girl recently?
- 20:51Osaka. Is that her name?
- 20:54Naomi. Naomi, I guess, I guess a little
- 20:56crybaby tennis player. I'm like, yeah, beat that girl
- 20:59at Brownie. I don't even want her to be
- 21:00humble. Don't be humble.
- 21:01Talk your shit bro. Like fuck she mad at tennis is 1
- 21:05sport like you can't blame nobody but yourself.
- 21:07Like I don't want to hear none of those excuses bro you ain't
- 21:10got time for that. But with the world I don't you
- 21:14know how some people were like a lot of guys will be like y'all
- 21:16don't want no daughter man shit me I want a daughter I want
- 21:21y'all *** to be scared when when this girl pop up with this last
- 21:24name y'all know y'all can't play with her cuz her daddy is crazy
- 21:27and he won't go to prison and with a smile on his face.
- 21:30Bro, talk to your kids, make sure they treat women right,
- 21:33bro. Like, oh, oh, her last name
- 21:36Dufresne. Oh, shit.
- 21:37Yeah. Hey, man Leader.
- 21:39That's what I want. Shit.
- 21:40Me I ain't. Yeah, the world, I ain't really.
- 21:43The world is fucked up, man. It's gonna be fucked up
- 21:45regardless of. I kind of feel like if it was a
- 21:49boy, I think I'll be probably a little more fearful than a girl
- 21:56to a certain extent 'cause it's like with girls, I just feel
- 22:01like sometimes you can still get away with certain things as a
- 22:04woman, but like as a dude bro, especially a black man like you,
- 22:07come on, They ain't giving you too much leeway in this, in this
- 22:10world, at least in America. I don't know, I can't speak for
- 22:13every other country, but we don't get a lot of leeway to be
- 22:17boys and kids and shit like that.
- 22:23I'm gonna say something I've never I've never heard I never
- 22:29heard this side of having daughters and psych and
- 22:34psychology and how it may make you view women.
- 22:38But cadet, I mean Dre, either one of y'all could say maybe
- 22:44y'all haven't felt this way. The only thing that comes to my
- 22:48mind that has me has my viewpoint changed when I see
- 22:54women and specifically women in porn?
- 22:58What? The fuck?
- 23:02Listen, it's weird, but I think I've changed my daughter's
- 23:06diaper so many times and seeing like a baby's a baby naked and
- 23:12then returning to just like my regular life and like just
- 23:15seeing porn or whatever. It changes the way I view just
- 23:18the woman's anatomy and the women in sex work where I'm
- 23:22like, you was like a little baby getting white.
- 23:24Like you go too deep, you go too deep, I'm.
- 23:30Like you was getting white and like he's not.
- 23:35Judging her? At all.
- 23:36Oh shit, I can see her as. A back thinking about her
- 23:39father. Bro wow the back is.
- 23:43Trying to save the porn stars bro.
- 23:45He's the guy that goes to the strip club and tries to save the
- 23:48girl. You know I can take you out of
- 23:49here. You.
- 23:51As a baby. Now.
- 23:55This is. Crazy man, I mean.
- 23:58I've never had that. Thought, Nah, hell no, I ain't
- 24:01never had that either. But in all honesty, was was your
- 24:07daughter's the first like girl baby that you ever changed?
- 24:09Because I've never changed a girl like ever in life.
- 24:12First like girl baby pussy. Yeah, damn *** vagina.
- 24:18That's what you feel like. Those two words don't, don't.
- 24:20They don't mix. That's what you're saying though
- 24:23first. Girl baby pussy.
- 24:25A a first girl vagina ever being changed cause I've never
- 24:28changed. No girl.
- 24:29I always change boys, my little brother and shit like that.
- 24:31Yeah, I've ever seen the vagina. At that like that small.
- 24:36I would hope so. God damn it.
- 24:37Shit, I got. A lot of girl.
- 24:41Cousins. I just never, I never changed.
- 24:43Like, yeah, I got a little cousin like we used to
- 24:45babysitter, but we never changed her.
- 24:46You feel like me and my older or not older but me and my cousin.
- 24:50But yeah, I was nervous about that.
- 24:51I don't know about y'all, 'cause you know, with boys, bro, make
- 24:53sure that his Ding Ling balls is clean, booty clean.
- 24:56You're cool. But like with women, you got to
- 24:58do front to back. It's a technique to shit, you
- 25:00feel me like? And I'll be using mad wax 'cause
- 25:03I don't want her to be dirty or no type of nothing.
- 25:05You know what I'm saying? Like I'll use about 7-8 wax.
- 25:08Let her do the one herself. Boys about to be 15 in that
- 25:10bitch. Yeah, we ain't paying that.
- 25:17So, OK, so for Dre Pack, I know there comes a different
- 25:24motivation, right? Do you guys think having your
- 25:27daughters or being married lit the fire?
- 25:29And then for Lou bro, like seeing your brother, you know,
- 25:32married and and child and all that stuff, do you feel like
- 25:35it's a it's a pressure on you either for yourself or from your
- 25:37parents? Haitian.
- 25:40Household. No.
- 25:41You want to go first. Lou.
- 25:43Yeah. Let Lou go first, bro.
- 25:44I haven't talked in a little. Yeah, no.
- 25:46I don't cause me and my brothers, we grew up in a two
- 25:49parent household. Our parents been married over 30
- 25:51years. They're like the pillar of a
- 25:53good marriage. They like they sometimes go on
- 25:57dates. Their anniversary was not too
- 25:59long ago when they went on a movie date.
- 26:01OK, and it's one of the nice movies where you can order food.
- 26:04Yeah, I don't hear about old Haitians going on movie dates,
- 26:07that that's a first. Yeah, Haitians on a movie day.
- 26:11Yeah, I let him. I told him about this movie.
- 26:13Yeah. But so I had that.
- 26:16That was like my, my parents are my role models.
- 26:18So I had that growing up. So then Andre, it's just more
- 26:22motivation out there. But me, I'm just very picky.
- 26:26So I'm going to be picky and be single, then be not picky and
- 26:30pick someone I don't really really want and get a divorce,
- 26:34get whatever and just hate it. So I'm OK with being single
- 26:37forever and having no child. What's your what's your ideal
- 26:40man? You you, you don't discriminate
- 26:41or you like 1 sided like Mr. Steve.
- 26:43Shout out to Steve man. What'd you say?
- 26:46No, that's not. Yeah.
- 26:51I only I only date black women. OK, I guess.
- 26:56Steve has been on the podcast too.
- 26:57Boy he had a lot of hate after that episode.
- 26:59Boy he needed some backup. What, They hated that *** Steve
- 27:06needed some backup. I need him to come back, do
- 27:10another one. Oh man, I don't think he does
- 27:13do. It again he's not pod in so I
- 27:15don't think no he. Would come back.
- 27:19Hey, so Lou, Lou. All right, so what's the longest
- 27:24relationship you've been in, bro?
- 27:27Wait, what is this? Yeah, we trying to.
- 27:28We trying to fill you up. Hey, man, how tall are you?
- 27:31How tall are you, bro? You 62.
- 27:33What's going on? You 6.
- 27:34Two, what you said. No, we trying to sell you at
- 27:37this point, man. Pause.
- 27:38My bad, sorry. You 62, you 62.
- 27:40What else? What else you got going on for
- 27:42yourself? Yeah, I'm 62.
- 27:43My longest relationship is about 8 months. *** *** he probably
- 27:50should have left that alone. God damn *** what you say?
- 27:538 months is crazy bro what the fuck.
- 27:55Yeah, I mean, I'm being honest, I'm not going to lie, but.
- 27:58Yeah, he's 6/2. He has a full beard, ladies man.
- 28:02Can I be ready to leave now? I've been single for what like
- 28:082-3 years now? So anything that's like not
- 28:13worth the hassle? Why would I be here?
- 28:16Like it's not worth it. You know it gets worse as you
- 28:18get older, right? Like that.
- 28:19That patience level for bullshit that I've been hearing in the
- 28:22dating scene is just going to get worse bro.
- 28:25Yeah, I got to work on that. I've been working on it.
- 28:28I've been working on. It is it really on you or is it
- 28:30on the women though, like to be honest, you know, I mean like.
- 28:34I want I don't want to blame others so I always blame myself.
- 28:37So I would say it's more me. Damn, they said.
- 28:40If you make it to nine months, you got to marry the girl.
- 28:42Other people. Whoever makes it to nine months,
- 28:44you have to marry her. I mean, you're not wrong, miss
- 28:48them. You're not wrong.
- 28:49Now that's a fact, cause me, I had like a curse with two year
- 28:52mark, bro. Like it's either before two
- 28:54years or right at two years. I'm we're breaking up about two
- 28:57years. It's something about it bro.
- 28:59And then wifey shit we've been locked in about officially since
- 29:032019. That's.
- 29:06Amazing. Yeah, fire.
- 29:08All right, so back to you gentlemen.
- 29:13Did your daughters or being married light a different fire
- 29:18and like your motivation to get to it?
- 29:22For me, this is like I've I've asked, I don't know if I've
- 29:27asked packed this, but I've asked multiple fathers of of my
- 29:30age. I, I, I always say like before
- 29:33having a kid, right? If someone were to ask me, do
- 29:37you think you could murder somebody?
- 29:39My answer would be no, I don't. I don't think I could.
- 29:44Yeah. After having a child, yes,
- 29:47without hesitation. Mama, somebody.
- 29:51Something clicks. Something changed.
- 29:53It's like, yeah, if someone did, yes, without hesitation to
- 29:58defend my family, what I have, it would take nothing.
- 30:01So there's definitely some kind of innate thing that just turns
- 30:08on I, I, I imagine if, if you want to be a father, if you want
- 30:10to be a president father. Obviously a.
- 30:12Nation is out there that don't care, but if you want to be a
- 30:15president father, a president husband, I feel like there is
- 30:18something that that that turns on.
- 30:20It just makes you want to do better and not just for
- 30:23yourself, but obviously for them and and you know, it just makes
- 30:27you want to get to it, whatever it takes.
- 30:30I agree with that. How about you, Clack?
- 30:32Yeah, and I agree with everything Jay said.
- 30:35I think before having a wife and kids, if I ever wanted to get
- 30:41better or I always want to get better, but it would always be
- 30:45for myself, right? And there's also times where I'd
- 30:50be like God, like I promise I'm, I'm going to be better now I'm
- 30:53I'm going to do better. So it'd be like either me
- 30:55talking to me or me talking to God.
- 30:57I never really cared too much about being better in a sense,
- 31:00in a way for like friends or family.
- 31:03I felt like I always showed up for friends and family and it
- 31:05wasn't something I ever felt like, how can I be a better
- 31:07friend or family member, which I feel like we always have room to
- 31:10improve. But I think having the wife and
- 31:14kids, because I really wanted them once I got them and then it
- 31:19was like, yeah, all right. I can't do certain things.
- 31:22Like like I can't just if, if trucking is hard, I can't just
- 31:26quit and just go home and be like, yeah, I'm going to figure
- 31:29something else out. Yeah, there's no like I, I guess
- 31:33I'm just going to figure it out. It's like, no, whatever the
- 31:35problem is, I have to, I have to figure it out now.
- 31:38People depending on you, depending on me.
- 31:41Yeah, and I and I asked for it. It's not like a shock.
- 31:45It's like, yo, I want to be the leader.
- 31:47I want to provide, So what do I got to do to do that?
- 31:50And what do I got to do to keep this role?
- 31:52Because that's what I want. So I agree with that.
- 31:56There's there's no losing now. I can't.
- 31:59I've said that a lot, Like, you gotta want to be a husband and a
- 32:03father, bro, 'cause it's a lot of stuff where you just gotta
- 32:06suck it up, bro. Yeah.
- 32:07And like, if you're not, you're not volunteering to be these two
- 32:11things. Like, bro, you're you're gonna
- 32:13quit, to be honest. Like you got to have that
- 32:16self-discipline, like you said, like before, it's just like, all
- 32:18right, I'm doing this for myself or I'm, I'm a, you know, wake up
- 32:21early to go to this job for myself or I'm gonna go work out
- 32:23for myself. But now it's like I, I want to
- 32:25work out because I want to be around for my child.
- 32:27Like, I want to be able to put some money on their head if they
- 32:30disrespect my family. You know what I'm saying?
- 32:32Like different motivations, right?
- 32:34Yeah, Yeah. But even even I've said like the
- 32:41whole process of of giving birth, like I don't understand
- 32:45how people will get to the point of having a baby with someone
- 32:51like that. They don't even know their
- 32:53favorite color. Like, you know, I'm saying like,
- 32:56like you know absolutely nothing about this person and you're
- 32:59taking this big ass risk and like I'm feeling I will have a
- 33:03baby. Like and then the person is not
- 33:05even present in this crazy and wild situation.
- 33:07Like Rob was right there with my wife.
- 33:10Like bro everything after the stitches, wiping and flushing
- 33:13shit, all types of craziness. Real quick cadet.
- 33:15What's up? Could we get more?
- 33:17Could we get more body? Oh you know I got bad posture
- 33:22man Yo hey why you say shit like that bro?
- 33:24All these paws were in the ass. Fucking lazy saying shit bro Can
- 33:29we get more? Body is crazy, dawg.
- 33:33Crazy because my shit is straight auditory.
- 33:35Like yo, that's crazy. For the people that listen to
- 33:41kennel talk, we, we got video going and, and you know, a
- 33:45little bit these *** I can't see the laptop.
- 33:48One on camera. Hold on, I'm really not bro,
- 33:50I'll just be in the zone can y'all see me?
- 33:54Yeah, that's much better if you could stay right there all.
- 33:57Right, but let me tilt it down. That's good.
- 34:01That's good. That's really packed it.
- 34:03While in the whole damn episode, bro.
- 34:08Flag on the play dog. Oh, shit, man.
- 34:14Hey, man. Alright, so I'm I'm gonna end it
- 34:16with this. Yeah.
- 34:18I'm gonna ask Lou first, though. So if or when you get to that
- 34:22point, would you want like a boy or a girl first?
- 34:24Or you, You don't even matter. I would want a healthy baby
- 34:31first and foremost, but. Good answer Sir, good answer.
- 34:34But having a niece, my niece is pretty cool.
- 34:38I guess I'm lucky to have a cool niece.
- 34:41Pretty cool. I wouldn't mind.
- 34:42Like I said, just healthy, healthy baby.
- 34:44Yeah, yeah, for sure. How many?
- 34:47I guess the leaning towards boy, but it doesn't matter how many.
- 34:54How many babies? How many?
- 34:56I'm old, I already know I don't have the.
- 34:59Patience for multiple kids. One kid yo Miss Sam.
- 35:03Chill with the twins. Chill with the twins one.
- 35:05Kid twins, whatever God blesses me with.
- 35:07You know, Lou, you might fuck around and get like quad, what
- 35:12is it? Quadruplets or whatever.
- 35:13How the fuck you say? Oh gosh.
- 35:15I don't know how they do it man. I thought I was going to get
- 35:18twins, man, because on my mama's side there's a bunch of sets of
- 35:21twins. I'd have been cool one and done.
- 35:24You worried about? That too.
- 35:26Oh yeah, your side of your. Wife's side, OK, there's there's
- 35:30twins and supposedly it skips a generation or something and we
- 35:33were worried, but Nah, just one. So.
- 35:37So your daughter's a sage, bro. You gonna let me talk shit about
- 35:40sage and your daughter's a sage? That's news to me.
- 35:44I don't know nothing about that. He said he don't care about
- 35:48that. She's my daughter and I'm gonna
- 35:50stand beside her like I don't know nothing else.
- 35:52December. 20th whatever that means.
- 35:58Yeah, so she, I, she's she's she's close to some other shit.
- 36:01She I, she cool, She good had. More than one kid.
- 36:06I think it would change how much I like Lou as a friend.
- 36:11I feel like he would suck. I feel like Lou might be a great
- 36:14father, but I just feel like you would be so like like just a
- 36:19mopper and complainer about the kids like 2-3, four.
- 36:23I feel like you would just always be like bro man like.
- 36:27They won't shut the fuck up. I don't think I would.
- 36:31I can see it. I can see it.
- 36:33Low key, bro. 3-4 kids. Lou.
- 36:36Yeah. 3-4 kids is why. It's fuck.
- 36:40It's fuck. You would you would be like bro
- 36:43man. Bro no, but that's my doing
- 36:47unless it's triplet. Oh damn.
- 36:49If I they say you a soft uncle Lou, what happened?
- 36:54They say you a soft uncle bro. I'm a soft uncle.
- 36:58Yeah. Wait, Louis says uncle is funny.
- 37:01He's trying to be tough. I mean, no, I just might.
- 37:03As a uncle, I just annoy Amelia. I play around with her and I
- 37:08annoy her. I try to bother her.
- 37:09I have videos of me annoying. Her.
- 37:11Yeah, that's me as a dad too. I know.
- 37:13What I do, I think that's like an uncle's job and she's the
- 37:16girl, so I try to toughen her up a little bit.
- 37:19I feel you on that, But I feel you, man.
- 37:23I don't think I'll be. Complaining about if I had a
- 37:25bunch of kids, I'll be happy to have kids.
- 37:28I don't even see myself having kids because I don't see myself
- 37:30with a girl right now. So it's like.
- 37:33Go. I I 100% will get a vasectomy.
- 37:37I will get a vasectomy vasectomy tomorrow if I could because I
- 37:40ain't having no more damn kids. Bro.
- 37:43I've seen you can. I'm straight like I can't what?
- 37:48He said you can't have a vasectomy.
- 37:51Let me tell you something, I don't seen these these families
- 37:54walking through this airport with like 5 girls chasing that
- 37:57boy. I'm good, I'm good.
- 38:00This second one definitely kicked my ass.
- 38:02You going to find out Tupac when you get back home?
- 38:05It's a different fatigue on that second one.
- 38:06That first one, at least for me, my first one was cool little
- 38:10smooth. Oh no, the first one for us was
- 38:13tough. Really.
- 38:14OK, so it was. Like it can't get worse.
- 38:16This one is not as. Bad as Nah.
- 38:19See, there you go, complete opposite our first one.
- 38:21She cried maybe the first couple days being home and then after
- 38:24that she was sleeping through the night.
- 38:27She ain't whine or fuss. This second one. *** I used to
- 38:32wake up and go jogging because I was just so fucking frustrated
- 38:38and I needed to get my mind off of being frustrated from being
- 38:41sleep deprived. So I'm like, fuck it, let me go
- 38:44run, get tired and crash when I get because you know, you got to
- 38:47take the shifts like one night is mine.
- 38:50She was smooth with my wife, but when it came to me, God, I swear
- 38:55I woke up like every hour one night, like 11:00, twelve
- 38:58o'clock 1:00, yeah. That's how Romy was.
- 39:02Romy was that night after night after night.
- 39:05And I just remember like every night it would just be like, I
- 39:07put my head down and the the whole routine was really I, I
- 39:12get the baby and change the baby, then give the baby to my
- 39:16wife to feed the baby. I was like.
- 39:18The whole thing. So I just remember like putting
- 39:21my head down as soon as I put my head down, if I didn't hear the
- 39:24baby, maybe I would hear my wife like Steph and I'm like.
- 39:29Yeah, you already sleep deprived bro.
- 39:35Yeah, man. That's funny.
- 39:38See, my, my experience is so different.
- 39:41Like our, our, I don't want to call it a curse, but our, our
- 39:46daughter was in the ICU for 20 days.
- 39:49OK, I want to say 20 days. So obviously we had
- 39:53complications, all that stuff. She was born early, she was 3
- 39:56lbs, five oz, seven weeks early. All these that would be
- 40:00attributed to negative things, but she was in the NICU.
- 40:03So yeah, NICU newborn ICU for for 20 days.
- 40:07So in those twenty days they, they developed the routine.
- 40:13So all we had to do when we got her home was follow the routine.
- 40:17And so I ain't gonna say I'm lucky, but I.
- 40:22Yeah, because she was in the ICU in the hospital for 20 days with
- 40:25the nurses. Different place.
- 40:27Completely separate, like we would have to go down.
- 40:30Waiting. Nah, they just looking through
- 40:32the window, right? Like we had to.
- 40:34There was a point we left the hospital and came home and she
- 40:37was still in the hospital. Like, we're home in Orlando and
- 40:41she's in the hospital in Gainesville.
- 40:42Oh shit. Damn, yeah.
- 40:46Granted, we tried to stay up there as much of those 20 days
- 40:49as we could, but you know, it's got to got to work and things
- 40:54like that. So yeah, they were able to,
- 40:57well, yeah, plus my wife was in the ICU on another level anyway.
- 41:01But so yeah, they, they did the work of the routine and getting
- 41:04her on the whatever, 4 hour feeding schedule and whatever.
- 41:08Like, so one week once we brought her home, we were just
- 41:12like, all right, so we got their schedule.
- 41:14We just transferred the same thing and on top of that my wife
- 41:18was the stressor and she would be the one like sleeping when
- 41:21one eye open. I was.
- 41:23I was. Out Hey between both of these
- 41:28pictures there's pictures with both of them with them knocked
- 41:30out on my chest and I'm CKO. Swaddle her up, get her all
- 41:37bundled up, throw her in the thing and go to bed.
- 41:40Yeah, I'm a swaddler. When When When the second one
- 41:44wasn't swallowed. She's moving and kicking and
- 41:46fighting and tighten this thing off.
- 41:50Yeah. Yeah, tie you up, go to sleep.
- 41:53Pressure. Yeah, yeah, it's funny.
- 41:54Do y'all think y'all y'all still want a boy?
- 41:58Would y'all try for? Definitely I, Amelia asked me
- 42:01the other day. I said, Amelia, I wanted a boy.
- 42:04I'm not gonna lie to you. I wanted.
- 42:06I wanted. But.
- 42:07I have you now and you know, that's, that's just, that's what
- 42:10it is. I'm happy, but I definitely
- 42:12wanted a boy for sure. But I'm saying, do you want one
- 42:16now? Would you still like go after
- 42:18that? Oh well, we can't, but if we
- 42:21could, I would. Oh, OK.
- 42:23And what about you, Pat? Would you still chase after the
- 42:25boy? No.
- 42:30Now my stepson is going to be my like actual boy experience.
- 42:35With my. First daughter, I call her the
- 42:38son I never had. She's very much all boy
- 42:41qualities. As far as?
- 42:42What I would see in a little boy, She's just a girl.
- 42:45So I'm I'm. I'm.
- 42:47Super Gucci. Yeah.
- 42:48For my mother. For my mother, I was the closest
- 42:51she was going to get to a girl, for sure.
- 42:53I do all the cooking and cleaning and type shit, you feel
- 42:55me? But I'm still a *** Shout out to
- 42:58my stepdad. Stepdad stepped in just in time.
- 43:01Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right when it was crucial.
- 43:04In common question for you stepdad.
- 43:08Yeah. Yeah, I was going to ask
- 43:09question for you with your stepdad situation, your
- 43:13biological dad ever met him? What happened with that whole
- 43:16thing? That *** around, I don't fuck
- 43:19with him. That's a that that's, you know,
- 43:21that's the episode I've been wanting to do for like damn near
- 43:242 years. But I just, it's one of them
- 43:28episodes. Like I not to go too deep into
- 43:32it, but I realized he wasn't shit.
- 43:35Like the week of my wedding, that's when everybody,
- 43:38everything hit me like this *** really ain't been shit and I
- 43:42ain't gonna kiss your ass like I'm a grown ass man with my
- 43:44camera on. Riverside turned off.
- 43:47It shows you're still in here, but your cameras are.
- 43:49My phone's probably about to die.
- 43:51Oh yeah, he got some he off, but yeah, your.
- 43:57Stepdad is, you know him, he's around.
- 44:00Yeah, yeah, My stepdad, he, I've known him since not.
- 44:02Not your stepdad, my dad. My bad.
- 44:03My biological. Yeah, I know.
- 44:05I know who he is my whole life. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 44:10But he ain't, he ain't, he ain't active or not like that.
- 44:12You feeling like he lives in Jersey?
- 44:15Yeah, yeah, I've seen him like it's so it's a it's a weird
- 44:19situation. So he lives in Jersey, like I
- 44:20was born in Jersey. So I would go to Jersey every
- 44:23summer, but I would always be with my uncles.
- 44:25I would see him and he'll pull up, hey, how you doing?
- 44:28Give me like a little bread. And then that pretty much be our
- 44:31interaction, bro. Like legit, I can only think of,
- 44:34yeah, my mother's side shouting them.
- 44:35They really like, do you know the epitome of what I'm like,
- 44:39alright, this how I'm supposed to be taking care of my family.
- 44:42Feel like they really set the tone.
- 44:44But yeah, as far as him, like I can only remember him buying me
- 44:47a Big Mac meal my whole life and I'm 35, about to be 36 in like 7
- 44:52days. So it is what it is.
- 44:55That's why I really don't care to have a boy because I don't
- 44:57really care to keep the last name.
- 44:58Going to be honest, you know, a lot of people feel like, oh, I
- 45:01want to keep the name. I don't give a fuck.
- 45:04That's chicken. Die with me.
- 45:08So you feel like he let you down and you're like growing up years
- 45:15and your stepdad being there wasn't like, I don't need him.
- 45:18I got him. It was like, I still want my
- 45:20dad. Nah.
- 45:22So honestly speaking, I wasn't one of those people were like,
- 45:25I'm just like, Oh my God, I wish my dad was he.
- 45:28I'd never felt like that. My mom was cool, like, you know
- 45:31what I'm saying? Like I never, I've always been
- 45:33like kind of sort of independent to a certain extent.
- 45:36But with my stepdad, I wouldn't say he was super active, but he
- 45:38was just like he showed me like as a man, OK, you cut the grass,
- 45:44you take care of the car, you do these things.
- 45:46Like he gave me the example. I wouldn't say like he was super
- 45:49active. Like hey son, like I never
- 45:51called him dad or nothing like that.
- 45:52I called him by his first name to this day I wouldn't say he
- 45:54was super active but. So he was a great husband, more
- 45:58so. I wouldn't even say that he
- 45:59Haitian. You know how Haitian ***
- 46:01sometimes he *** *** don't be shit, bro.
- 46:05He he, he was the most active to go around, bro.
- 46:07Like, you know, he married my mother shot him, but you know.
- 46:11They still married. Yeah, yeah, they still married.
- 46:13Yeah, ain't no disrespect to him, but not like that was just
- 46:16like what? What I OK, so This is why this
- 46:19also, not to go on topic, but like when people use the absence
- 46:24of people as an excuse to why you ain't shit, I can never
- 46:27respect it. You know what I'm saying, 'cause
- 46:29like my biological dad wasn't active.
- 46:32This *** got a bunch of kids, couple different baby Mamas, you
- 46:36know what I'm saying? Like I'm married once and I got,
- 46:38you know, all my kids with one person, so I made sure that I
- 46:41didn't want to go down that path.
- 46:43So when people would be like, well, my daddy wasn't man, shut
- 46:46the fuck up, *** man the fuck up.
- 46:48Like you knew right but and wrong.
- 46:50You know what I'm saying? So I can't never excuse it.
- 46:52And I can only say that because I went through it like we were
- 46:56saying in y'all in y'all episode where you were saying like, you
- 47:00can't dismiss someone's feelings, right?
- 47:03But I've been in a situation where, OK, my dad had a bunch of
- 47:06women and a bunch of kids and I'm like, I don't want to be
- 47:09like that. So I'm not going to be like
- 47:11that. You know what I'm saying?
- 47:12So you don't want to repeat the trauma.
- 47:14Why? Why?
- 47:14You know, that's it. That's just how I feel.
- 47:17But yeah, I'm gonna do the episode one of these days.
- 47:20But that's, that's a deep 1. I don't know if I want to go
- 47:22down that route. Yeah, that that's that's one of
- 47:26mine. Did you know yours?
- 47:29No, I didn't know my biological dad, but I didn't know I had a
- 47:33biological dad. It wasn't until I was 17, got
- 47:35kicked out and I had like little ideas throughout my high school
- 47:39years because we needed a physical form for football and
- 47:44there's no dad in my birth certificate.
- 47:46So I used to joke with my mom like, yo, where's daddy?
- 47:48Like he was late to the hospital and shoot.
- 47:52And one time, one one of the times, one of the years when I
- 47:55made a joke, she was like 7 stop.
- 47:57And I just remember it kind of like was in the back of my head,
- 48:00like she doesn't want to talk about it.
- 48:02And I was just like, whatever. But when I got kicked out, there
- 48:06was like a one-on-one moment my mom and I had at a park when she
- 48:10was trying to convince me to move back at the house.
- 48:13And she just started breaking down crying.
- 48:16And she's like, what do you want to know?
- 48:18And when she asked that question, that was the first
- 48:20thing that came to my mind. I was like, so is my dad my dad
- 48:23or no? And she was like, no, he's not.
- 48:27You have your dad. And I didn't want to tell you
- 48:28because I didn't want you to leave.
- 48:31And I felt like that moment was definitely great to have, but I
- 48:36felt like it bared more weight on her than me and she probably
- 48:40thought it would have meant more to me, or like that it would
- 48:43have hurt to hear something. Like that but I'm so.
- 48:46Used to my stepdad that to hear that news, I was just more so
- 48:50sad that my mom was crying about it versus like, well you didn't
- 48:53tell me I had a dad. Then when I turn 18 I get a
- 48:56random Facebook request from my biological dad.
- 48:59I find out it's him and then I met him in person when I like
- 49:04around the time I got my first car.
- 49:06I want to say I was probably like 20 or something, I don't
- 49:10even remember, but I met him in person and I just remember being
- 49:14kind of like awkward like this is my dad I guess like it is.
- 49:18But I don't really know you. But whatever, you're down to pay
- 49:20for my car. I really need it.
- 49:24And you don't seem crazy or something.
- 49:26So I'm here to hear you. And at this point in my life,
- 49:29like I'll send him pictures of my my daughter and we talked
- 49:34like very randomly, but I don't have no hard feelings.
- 49:38I I just have a whole bunch of curiosity, but I.
- 49:41Don't. Hold no weight or like no anger
- 49:43towards any my mom or him. Or.
- 49:45Because thankfully I grew up with a stepdad that held it down
- 49:49and he was a Haitian dad, so. It's not like.
- 49:51He gave me what I thought I needed because I remember crying
- 49:54about like seeing stuff on TV like white white kids playing
- 49:57catch with their. Dad playing.
- 49:59Baseball, I'm like, I'll never get to play catch with my dad,
- 50:02but that's like typical Haitian shit.
- 50:05I ain't think about none of that though.
- 50:06That's the crazy part bro. Like I just.
- 50:08Well, not my bio, but my stepdad.
- 50:09No. For your stepdad, yeah, I just,
- 50:11I just went through life, bro. I ain't really too much like
- 50:14think about that stuff. You knew he was your stepfather.
- 50:19Who, me? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I knew.
- 50:21He's my stepfather for sure. That's the big difference.
- 50:24No, but I'm saying the yearning part because even when you got a
- 50:27stepfather, you could still be like, damn, I wish I had my real
- 50:29dad to, you know, go to my games and just down the third.
- 50:32But like for me, I really didn't care.
- 50:34Like I was just like, whatever, it is what it is, you know,
- 50:36saying. That's why I say it was, it
- 50:38wasn't until like, when did I get married?
- 50:402021, So I was like 31. It wasn't until then I was just
- 50:43like, damn, this *** really ain't shit.
- 50:45Like, you know, he ain't go to my high school graduation, He
- 50:48ain't go to my military graduation, he ain't go to my
- 50:50Academy. Like, you know what I'm saying?
- 50:52Like, and now you, because of your pride, you don't go to my
- 50:54wedding. And now what?
- 50:56Really like set me over the edge to where I was like, yeah, I
- 50:59can't be around this *** unless he apologizes 'cause I'll
- 51:01definitely put my hands on him. Is the disrespect to my wife,
- 51:06'cause now it's like, oh God, you disrespecting me, *** I'm
- 51:09used to you ain't being shit. But like now you're
- 51:11disrespecting my wife and like, I don't give a fuck who you is.
- 51:14You're not disrespecting my wife and you 'cause she tried to
- 51:17reach out to him. She tried to reach out to him
- 51:20when the whole situation happened 'cause my mother had
- 51:23told him. Mind you, my mother was never
- 51:24one of those people that's like bashing him or anything.
- 51:27Like, that never happened throughout my years.
- 51:30Yeah. But on the way to the wedding,
- 51:33she, she brought up the fact that, you know, he was in
- 51:35Jersey, like trying to like dirty my name.
- 51:38And I'm just like, what? What you mean he basically
- 51:41saying like, you didn't invite him to the wedding and did.
- 51:43I'm like, what? Like bro, he want me to like
- 51:47kiss his ass and like Loki beg him to come to a wedding.
- 51:49Like bro, you should feel so honored that I'm even giving you
- 51:53an invitation. And what's crazy is I'm cool
- 51:55with all my siblings. Like all like literally all my
- 51:57siblings was there except for one cause like she had just had
- 52:00a baby type shit. Outside of that, all my siblings
- 52:03was front and center and these Louis, Louis was there.
- 52:07Louis there, he. Women.
- 52:09You say that again. These are his kids with.
- 52:11Other with other women, even his, even his wife is like she
- 52:15loves me to death. You feel me like I've never been
- 52:17a disrespectful kid, nothing like that.
- 52:19You know what I'm saying? Never no situations where you
- 52:22would feel like ashamed or anything like that.
- 52:24You know what I'm saying? So that's why I'm just like ***
- 52:26it ain't me *** it's whatever you got going on within
- 52:29yourself. That's how I look at it like I'm
- 52:31cool, I have my family, I have my loved ones, I got support,
- 52:34I'm cool. I'm not going out of my way to
- 52:37look for an apology either. So like it's cool on my side but
- 52:41fuck all that. Do y'all feel like as girl dads
- 52:45y'all feel like y'all have gotten a little more emotional?
- 52:47Like with certain things that you might watch that includes
- 52:49girls like babies, child's or whatever child's children.
- 52:59When it comes to. Like well yours is 9 bro you're
- 53:02like outside of that room. Have you ever?
- 53:04Yeah, yeah, I watching movies and stuff.
- 53:08I've never been the emotional type watching movies.
- 53:10I'm more, I think I've told the guys on The Pop before.
- 53:12I'm more so get emotional. Like if I'm watching like let's
- 53:16say America's Got Talent or something and it's a real person
- 53:21given their real story, that kind of stuff will make, you
- 53:25know, make me a bit emotional, but not from not due to my
- 53:29daughter. I don't think that has OK has
- 53:34done anything. Nah.
- 53:38What about you, Pat? For sure, yeah.
- 53:40Yeah. Yeah, and not even just as a
- 53:44dad, but even as a husband. I think whenever there's
- 53:47anything where I could just I, I could just feel that person like
- 53:52whether they're about to lose their wife or their kid is sick
- 53:56or just died and the the two people like recently actually I
- 54:01I got, I felt a way I don't know if y'all seen his and hers.
- 54:04I ain't fully watched. It hasn't like caught my
- 54:06attention like that. I can't get past the second
- 54:08episode. OK.
- 54:12Without telling too much. Yeah, without telling too much,
- 54:15there's 2 characters in there who lost the kid in the past.
- 54:18Right. And full circle, they get a
- 54:21moment to talk about that moment.
- 54:23And like, she's kind of getting on him about like after that
- 54:31happened, because she, she left and disappeared for like a year.
- 54:35So he's like, you just left me. Like after that happened, you
- 54:38just left me. Yeah.
- 54:40And I needed you. And yeah.
- 54:42And you, you just disappeared. And all I wanted to do was
- 54:45comfort you. I wanted to be there for you.
- 54:47I just wanted to tell you things were OK.
- 54:49And she's like, I, I, I didn't leave or just disappear.
- 54:55You kept trying to make me forget about it.
- 54:57And that memory of my child was all I had.
- 55:02It was all I had. And you were trying to take that
- 55:04from me. And like when she's like
- 55:06breaking up crying, I, I, I feeling, I'm like, I could feel
- 55:10like me trying to console my wife about some shit like that.
- 55:14And if we were to lose our kid in the thought of losing a kid,
- 55:17just like, oh man, we'd be sick, we'd be hurt.
- 55:21So I I feel for scenario. I don't think I could watch John
- 55:24Q now, as a father actually going, actually going to turn me
- 55:29up. The hell no.
- 55:31Yeah, yeah, it would hit harder. Now bro, I've gotten super
- 55:35emotional with like situations as involving kids and like, you
- 55:39know what I'm saying? Like especially those like
- 55:41realistic type of movies or shows.
- 55:44But shit, yeah, I'm off of that. That should be blind.
- 55:47Even have you ever heard J Cole's song She's Mine?
- 55:52Maybe you might have heard it, but you.
- 55:54You listen to Nicole. Yeah, I do listen to Nicole.
- 55:58He's got a song called She's Mine.
- 56:00Yeah, I think it's on For Your Eyes Only, I think.
- 56:03But she's got a He's got a song called She's Mine Part 1 and
- 56:05She's Mine Part 2. And one of the parts is about
- 56:10him having his wife. But the other part was about him
- 56:13having a daughter or his his child.
- 56:16I don't know if it's a boy or girl.
- 56:19And anytime I hear that one about a kid, I cry every single
- 56:22time I hear that. Like he just be saying like damn
- 56:25it feel good to have you. Damn it feel good to have you.
- 56:29You hear the? Baby crying in the back and
- 56:32she's. Like, oh wait, I gotta listen to
- 56:33that. That's going to make me
- 56:34emotional. Bro, he's like everything he
- 56:37says just hits and he's just like, I want to cry, 'cause now
- 56:40you're here and I can finally be right by your side.
- 56:43And then he says I don't want to die, 'cause now you're here.
- 56:47Oh, my Mama, I ain't want to bring that up, but when my first
- 56:51one was born, that crossed my mind.
- 56:54I got sad bro, 'cause I'm like, fuck, I'm gonna have to leave
- 56:56this earth one day, bro. Yeah, And I, I'm like, do ***
- 57:00think about this shit, bro? Like fuck dog.
- 57:02Like she ain't even been a month.
- 57:03When I thought that I was like, damn, I love the hell out of
- 57:06them babies, bro. I could be having a shitty day.
- 57:08I see them little faces on FaceTime, bro.
- 57:10I'm hey baby, hey baby, hey Dada baby, you know what I'm saying?
- 57:13Like I'm up, bro. I know that's it.
- 57:18I'll. Be trying to divide my energy
- 57:20and give my give my still try to give my wife the me.
- 57:23That she needs. But sometimes I think because
- 57:27we're both adults, we're more transparent with the fact that
- 57:32we may be tired or stressed. But I could I feel guilty
- 57:37sometimes because sometimes she'll FaceTime me and it's me
- 57:39and her and then she'll hold on. Your daughter wants to talk to
- 57:42you. But while me and her were
- 57:42talking I'm just like. Yeah, she.
- 57:45Put the. Baby on.
- 57:46I'm guilty. I'm guilty.
- 57:49That's fact. It's not even you don't even do
- 57:53it on purpose bro. It's just a different energy
- 57:56they bring out of you bro. Like, I don't know, but yeah,
- 57:59man. All right man, I'm gonna go
- 58:00ahead and end it like this, bro. I appreciate y'all for coming
- 58:03on, man. But before I end the podcast, I
- 58:05always give the guests the opportunity to plug whatever
- 58:07they got going on squatting and potting.
- 58:10What else y'all got going on, man?
- 58:11Y'all could do your personal pages if y'all want to.
- 58:14It's all about the squad right now.
- 58:16Squatting and. Potting and pot is.
- 58:18All y'all need to. Know for sure y'all spell it out
- 58:20for them. Pack.
- 58:21Spell it out. SQUADDIN, that's squatting.
- 58:26No G and pardon, no GPODDIN. Yeah, everywhere.
- 58:34I'm gonna put it all in descriptions.
- 58:35On all platforms, Yeah, officially on all platforms.
- 58:40Y'all in the TikTok chat, we on our, we on everything now,
- 58:43Spotify, Apple Podcasts, all that good stuff.
- 58:45We are officially everywhere. Oh yeah.
- 58:47Oh yeah. So.
- 58:48Part and that's all we got to. Say appreciate y'all boys man.
- 58:50I don't fuck around open. Try to open up a Band-Aid on my
- 58:53black ass with a daddy conversation.
- 58:56Yeah, I'll be the moderator for that one if y'all want it.
- 58:59I mean I I got some questions. I'll say less now we can do that
- 59:03because that's the part too. I'm like, do I want to do a solo
- 59:05or do I want somebody to like, you know what I'm saying?
- 59:07Like, yeah, I'll do that. I could do that.
- 59:10That's gonna be a that's gonna be a motherfucker.
- 59:15As always, man. You boycotted the Bowlegged
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