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It is hour three of our Tuesday morning.
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It's brought to you by the McPherson Financial Group.
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And as always on a Tuesday, hour 3 belongs to Dave Bowman and
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Dave does history as he joins us from Silverdale, WA.
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We've got links for you. Today's Dave's work with the
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Dave Bowman Show, What the Frock and Dave does history all on the
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show page today at billmc.com. That page entitled A Fool and
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His Money. We talked about that closing
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hour number two, and if you want to weigh in on the WMNB or Bill
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Mclaugh Facebook pages, you're more than welcome to do that.
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Dave, where are we going on this?
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Dave? Does history in in this hour.
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History's strange, it's alien, and it won't give us what we
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would like to have. Which on occasion means that
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history is all about sticking a paper fish on the back of your
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friend's shirt and yelling Poisson de Afriel.
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Happy Boskin Day. I've already got you confused.
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Today we're going to peel back the layers on the most unserious
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day of the year, and we're going to find out the disturbing truth
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about what we mistakenly call April Fool's Day.
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And the truth is that nobody knows why we have it.
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We think we do. And the reason we think we do is
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because, well, history's strange and it's alien.
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And Once Upon a time, a history professor decided that this AP
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reporter who's interviewing me can't possibly be this stupid,
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and then proceeded to prove that, in fact, that AP reporter
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was, well, just that stupid. We pick it up in one minute.
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Glad you're with us on a Tuesday on Bill Mick Live.
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Dave Bowman digging into the history of April Fool's Day.
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Not my favorite of all the made-up recognition days that we
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have. And they produce calendars for
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like music radio that tell you what every day is.
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National Donut Day, National Dog Walking Day, whatever it might
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be. How does April Fool's Day catch
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on as one that everybody recognizes and plays along with?
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I don't get it. And how long has it been going
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on though? God, who knows?
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If you had to guess what would be the start date for April
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Fool's Day year wise, if you just had to pull pull a number
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out of your butt, what would that number be?
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19121392 OK, we'll go with that one.
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Jeffrey Chaucer, who by the way, I love Chaucer.
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He's Once Upon a time I went to Westminster Abbey.
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I visited Chaucer's grave at Westminster Abbey.
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It was quite an adventure for me and story for another day.
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But Jeffrey Chaucer, I loved it when we did The Canterbury Tales
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in high school. It was it was great reading,
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enjoyable stuff. It's also where we get our first
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indication of April Fool's Day bill.
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How that happens shows you didn't really remember it.
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So in, in, in the nuns. Or maybe April Fool's Day wasn't
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covered. Maybe they didn't cover that.
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In the nuns priest's tale, there is a cocky rooster named
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Chanticleer who gets fooled by a fox.
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Now, I'm not going to tell you the whole story, but the
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important thing is that the story that Chaucer is telling
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takes place by his, by his language, March since March
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began 30 days +2, which if you're, you know, doing the math
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here, would put it smack dab on April 1st, April Fool's Day.
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But the problem is, of course, Chaucer didn't write in what we
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would call English today. He wrote in the English of that
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era, and they didn't have printing presses, they didn't
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have computers, they didn't have word processors.
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And so it's very possible, in fact highly probable, that there
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is an error that the scribes made when they were transmitting
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all that, you know, recopying it, recopying it.
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It's very possible that they just messed that up.
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And he actually meant May 2nd, not April first.
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If that's true, it's kind of the literary equivalent of, well,
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AGPS glitch. You ever get one of those where
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your GPS tells you here in the middle of the water?
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It's calculating, it's close enough, it gets you excited, but
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it's the totally wrong destination.
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But there are a lot of people who, if you were to say, OK,
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where did April first get it start?
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Where did April Fool's Day get it start?
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They'll go to Chaucer. And I don't have a problem with
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that because again, I love Chaucer and you know, it's, it's
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part of the English language, the beauty of the English
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language. If you go forward a few 100
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years or a couple 100 years to 1561, there is a Flemish poet.
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Now, Flemish would mean, you know, that area of Belgium,
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northern France, Netherlands, that area, Fleming by the name
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of Edward Dedean. And he writes a ridiculous poem
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about a nobleman who sends his servant on a series of
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ridiculous, pointless errands. Think Hercules.
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And his 7th is is tasks that he's got to perform and that
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kind of thing, only more so just because he could.
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He was being cruel to the servant, but he does it on April
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1st. It's clearly a prank and I mean
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he sends this guy off on on ridiculous errands there.
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The the things that he's having him do.
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It reminds me a lot of when we were on the submarine or in the
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Navy. You send somebody, hey, I need
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AI need a can of relative bearing grease.
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Can you go ask the machinist mates for a can of relative
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bearing grease or you know, you always get the guy who will who
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will man the male buoy. That's one of our favorite
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pranks. You know, you, you're going to
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go up and stand in the in the, in the Hatch and wait for the
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male buoy to flow by and you're going to grab it and bring it in
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so we can get the mail, right? Yeah.
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We had guys in umpiring that would our bat boys were
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generally kind of young, you know, 1213 years old.
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They would send them outside to get the keys to the batter's box
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and the umpire's game face, right.
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So there you go. And and yet there's always
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somebody that'll fall for it. And that's the, that's the
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amazing part is that even though you have these clearly
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ridiculous things going on, there are people who will fall
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for it. And this servant falls for these
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prank jobs that this, this guy, this, this Duke or whatever was
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sends his, his servant on on April 1st, makes him go out and
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do all this ridiculous stuff and it'll happen today.
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Bill, I'm, I'm very cautious about social media today
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because, Oh yeah, you will see stories that initially you'll
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go, well, that seems weird or that seems crazy or that seems
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ridiculous, but you're you until you actually hit the share
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button, you won't go, oh, wait, today's April 1st.
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And as soon as you share it, you'll go, oh, wait, today's
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April first. I've just been, I've just been
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had, boy, Santia for real. I've been had, as the French
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will say, and you'll look ridiculous.
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So is that where it started then in 1561 with this, with this
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ridiculous poem that I'll be honest, I've, I've not read the
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whole poem. I just read the list of tasks
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that he sent him on because I didn't care.
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But then there's this theory that in 1564, Charles the 9th of
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France issued an edict known as the Edict of Rusol, moving the
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new year from late March and April to January 1st.
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Now keep in mind that our calendar today is not the
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calendar that you know, has historically been used and New
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Year's Day. That's why I don't, I
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personally, you don't like April first, I don't like New Year's
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Day because New Year's Day is ridiculous.
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It's been moved around so many times.
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There's so many different New Year's, there's so many
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different things with it. It's just a meaningless date on
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the calendar, but people will, you know, make their resolutions
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and everything else. So there's this rumor that in
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1564, Charles the 9th issued this edict that moved New Year
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from late March to January 1st. Now the story goes that
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pranksters started mocking the farmers who who ignored the
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edict and making fun of them, sending joke invitations to non
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existent New Year's parties, keeping it going.
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And, you know, typical French humor by fart in your general
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direction kind of thing. Yeah, exactly.
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But. And your mom smells of
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elderberries. Father of hamster.
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The problem is, of course, there's no actual evidence of
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this happening. Now it feels good.
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It's it's a funny story. It feels like it's true, but
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it's not. Which of course is it?
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It makes it the perfect April Fool's origin story.
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It's plausible, it's popular and probably fake.
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But at the same time it's the kind of thing that you can, you
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know, stick a stick a paper fish on the back of some of your
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friends and say gotcha, which is a very French thing to do.
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So all of this, they still practice that today.
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They do. They'll like I drew a fish just
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to just to put on the back of you just to put on your
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metaphorical back and say poison de Avril.
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So you've been you've been bad with my paper, Fitch.
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But along Kim's this idea that history might should be able to
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solve all these problems. So in 1983, an enterprising AP
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reporter contacted a historian by the name of Joseph Boskin and
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said, hey, tell me the story of what happened with April Fools
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Day. How did it happen to come about?
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And Boskin said to him, well, nobody really knows.
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And the AP reporter, instead of taking him at his word, said,
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no, come on, man, you're a historic history professor.
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You have to know. And so Boskin said, OK, I'm
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going to tell you the true story of April Fool's Day.
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Oh, so we're going to get the scanning when we continue on
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Bill Mick live or will we? Well, that's what we're here to
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do. Dave does history on Bill Mick
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live as we continue in moments on WMMB Our.
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Weekly dive into history. Dave Bowman joins us on Bill
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Mick Live. The McPherson Financial Group,
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this hour's sponsor is Dave's taking us into the history.
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What we little we know of it, if we can trust it today, Dave does
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history, History of April, the 1st April Fool's Day.
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So you're telling us about this Professor Dave Joseph Boskin And
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we're, we're bouncing all the way in from starting with
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Chaucer, Chaucer in 1392 to 1983.
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Well, this happens in 1983, but it's really about what happens
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under Charlemagne, the the great French or Holy Roman Emperor
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back in the 1890s in that era. So Joseph Boskin is a history
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professor at Boston University back in 1983.
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And his phone rings one day. He, by the way, happens to be in
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California. He's on sabbatical or something.
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And he gets a call from the BU press office.
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And the press officer says, hey, there's a guy from the AP who
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wants to, he's doing a story about April Fool's Day.
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And you're a history professor. You know about that right now,
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Boskin? Because, Bill, nobody has
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studied the history of April Fool's Day, right?
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Says. Well, yeah, I've been studying
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it for years because the number one characteristic of a history
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professor, as we all know, is our sarcastic humor.
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Uh huh. So the problem is that now that
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he said that, of course the BU reporter passes on his number to
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the AP reporter and the AP reporter calls him.
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Now I happen to have in my hands the actual article that ran on
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April 1st. Friday, April 1st, 1983.
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The AP ran this article across the country, headlined Today's
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the day You can Give in to Foolishness, and it starts like
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this. As a student of humor, Joseph
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Boskin says Americans don't take April Fool's Day seriously
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enough. I think we have to resurrect it,
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said Boskin, a social historian who tries to discern the deeper
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meaning of elephant jokes and other bits of folk humor.
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It gives everybody a chance to be foolish without getting in
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trouble. Now, if that is all he had to
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say, you know, you kind of go, well, OK, but he's got this AP
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reporter on the hook. And like most fishermen, you got
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to see how far you can reel him in.
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This is going to be fun. So he's got this AP reporter,
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Professor Boskin on the hook and he's going to play with the fish
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a little bit before he reels him in, I take it.
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Well, you know, push song to Alfreal.
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You've got to play with the fish, right?
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It's it's what paper fools all about.
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He, he realizes that this, he, he, he literally, he will say
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later, can't believe that this reporter is, is falling for
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this, right? He figures it's April 1st and
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might as well go along with it, right?
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So he informs this reporter that back in the days of the Emperor
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Constantine, there were always you, you're familiar with the
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court jesters and the, the, the fools that kings and emperors
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would have. And he informs the AP reporter
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that the Emperor Constantine has a group of fools who come to him
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and say, hey, you know what? Any one of us could rule this
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Kingdom better than you can. We're we're better at this than
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you can. And so Constantine is bemused by
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the clan. Constantine, of course, a very
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wise ruler, those kinds of things.
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And he picks one of his gestures to rule for the day.
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And the gestures name. Now keep in mind, Boskin is from
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New York. He's he's he's very familiar
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with the culture in that area. And so he picks a name out of
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thin air for this jester. He calls him Kugel and says, OK,
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Kugel, you're in charge for the day.
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Run things the way you think they could be ready.
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Run better. And of course, Kugel, which for
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those of you who don't get the joke, is a a very popular
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pudding type dish in New York amongst the Jewish community, is
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named king for the day and immediately passes a law that
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only the absurdity thing, only absurd things can happen on this
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day that I'm in charge, which happens to be April first.
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Then Boskin tells him in a in a way, it's a very serious thing.
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In those times, fools were really wise men.
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It was the role of the gestures to put things in perspective
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with humor. And he tells the reporter this
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custom's stuck. It becomes a yearly event.
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And on April 1st, Boskin says that Constantine allows foolish
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behavior one day of year because it has therapeutic value by
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allowing people to act out of character.
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Now, if you were a good AP reporter, what do you do next?
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You go for historic documents to back it up, right?
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You go ask somebody else. But instead, this reporter is
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just writing away on his pad, typing away in his, getting all
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this information down. And on Friday, April 1st, 1983,
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you can You can find it. This brilliant article appears
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in newspapers across the country in which Boskin closes the
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article. He closes the AP article by
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saying Boskin, in a serious tone, suggests one way of
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resurrecting April Fool's Day would be to persuade the Soviet
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Union to hold their own April Fool's Day.
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Then we'd have to do it, too. We'll have a bigger and better
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April Fool's Day than the Soviets will, because, you know,
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it's, it's an April Fool's gap. Perhaps the president then could
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even go to Congress for special funds to help celebrate the day.
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This article actually appeared in newspapers across the country
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under the AP Byline on Friday, April 1st, 1983.
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And So what happened with him when this gets out there, what,
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how, what's the reaction? Well, it's interesting because
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if you, if you look at it today, there are many people who, if
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you, if you say to them, well, how did April Fool's Day get
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their start? They'll tell you, well, it was
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Constantine and his full Kugel, who, you know, he allowed him to
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run the Kingdom. And, and it all comes back to
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this article in the AP, which comes from an interview with a
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history professor who said this is what happened.
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And because it comes from a history professor, well, it
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can't be a paper fish stuck on your back, right?
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It has to be reality. The problem is that, of course,
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Boskin still has to teach classes.
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And as he's teaching one of his classes, weeks later, not a day
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later, not a week weeks later, one of the students who happens
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to be the editor and the chief of the school newspaper says,
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hey, wait a minute about this story.
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I can't find anything that supports this.
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And Boskin has to say to the student reporter, that's because
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I made it all up. That could be the best April
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Fool's prank ever, Dave. I mean, national publicity and
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everything that goes with it. Guess what's on the front page
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of the school newspaper the next day?
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Professor lies. We're back with more of the
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story in moments. All bill now 321-768-1240.
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So catch those as you can. So, Dave, we're talking about
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Professor Boskin at Boston University and the student paper
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saying we can't find any evidence that this Charlemagne
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April Fool's Day story is true. And he says, well, it's all
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made-up. What happened after that?
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So of course the reporter and it's Constantine.
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So it's actually a Roman not sorry, not Charlemagne.
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I think I said Charlemagne too, but it's, it's actually
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Constantine. Anyway, the, the all hell breaks
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loose, of course, because the, the Boston University student
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paper runs this article front page that history professor lies
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to the AP makes up this whole story for April Fools and AP
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runs with it. And were they laughing about it
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or were they ticked? Well, see, here's the thing.
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You'd think they would be laughing about it.
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You'd think they'd go, uh huh, you got me cha ching.
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But no, no, the AP is absolutely livid.
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They want Boskin's skin nailed to the door of the AP office
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there. And they, they're the reporter
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is in tears. They want him fired.
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There's investigations Boskin he he's he keeps his job because
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because the reporter didn't finish doing his job.
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Well, apparently it was her job. But yeah, that's OK, whatever.
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But the the point is he has tenure.
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And no matter how you slice this, it's still kind of funny
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because he suggested that we suggest that the Soviet Union
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have April Fool's Day so that we can have an April Fool's race
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race with the Soviet Union. And the reporters still didn't
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catch it. He keeps his job because he's
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tenured. And in the world of April Fool's
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jokes, in the world of April Fool's history, now we really
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have a starting point. But even that isn't the complete
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story of it, because of course now we've got the media involved
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and they got to get Roland. In 1957, the BBC, the Beeb
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broadcasts footage of Swiss villagers harvesting spaghetti
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from trees because the spaghetti Weevil had finally at last been
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eradicated and phones were people were calling the BBC
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asking where they could get spaghetti plants to grow their
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own spaghetti. That's probably the inspiration
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for Monty Python, you know, I'm sure, I'm sure it has a lot to
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do with it. 1996, Of course, you may remember this.
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I don't remember it clearly, but I kind of.
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Taco Bell announced multi page full page ads in all the papers
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stating that they had purchased the Liberty Bell.
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Renamed it the Taco Liberty Bell to help pay down the national
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debt. This one gets so out of hand
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that the National Park Service has to call a press conference
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to deny that Taco Bell has has purchased this.
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Now supposedly Americans are furious about this, but as it
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turns out, they were also hungry because Taco Bell sold a hell of
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a lot of tacos that week. That's funny.
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That's good 1998. I definitely remember this one.
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Burger King announced the left-handed Whopper, specially
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engineered for left-handed people.
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Thousands of people went to Burger King and asked for the
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left-handed wafer. Nobody seemed to notice that it
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was the same one, just rotated around.
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But to prove that Professor Boskin was, I guess, at long
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last forgiven and at long last people started to say, well,
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maybe there's something to this, that we should just sort of go
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with the day being a day for silliness in 1992.
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National Public Radio, NPR, the thing that conservatives today
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want to defund because, you know, people announced that
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Richard Nixon, yes, Richard Milhouse Nixon was in fact
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running for president again, saying, quote, I never did
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anything wrong and I won't do it again.
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He promises. This actually runs on NPR.
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It's an actor. Of course, nobody kept.
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But NPR listeners don't catch on to the fact that it's a joke on
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April 1st there. There's a reason for that.
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It's because they're NPR listeners.
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But anyway, go ahead. Well, they swamped the NPR
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switchboards with complaints. There are Congress people
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getting calls about what are you going to do to stop this?
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Nixon can't be president to get Plus, you know, there's that
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22nd Amendment thing. But I wonder if anybody said,
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well, what if he's not elected to president?
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What if he's just running for president, but he's not elected,
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but somehow ends up there anyway?
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Who knows what would have happened?
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But the bottom line is now the media is playing jokes on the
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American people, which just goes to prove that Professor Boskin,
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we shouldn't call it April Fool's Day.
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We should call it Boskin Day. And we're back in 30 seconds
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with your calls on WMNB 321-768-1240.
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Let you in here as we talk April Fool's Day on this.
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Dave does history hour the program line one.
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You're up on Bill Mick live. Good morning.
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Good. Morning.
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Yes, Scott. I am Dave.
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You've outdone yourself. This story was great, but you
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know what, unbeknownst to you, you did hit on a really salient
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point because you just described the birth of modern day
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journalism. Because they went to an academic
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to get a story and they printed anything, any lie that the
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academic told them. And so now we believe that men
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can switch to be girls and playing girls sports and we can
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believe all this other crap that modern media is telling us.
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Oh, that's funny, Scott, that is.
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Let's go to line to you're up on Bill Mick live.
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Good morning. Yep, Now I remember that term
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very, very well. Dave, what are you?
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What are you thinking about how this all came about now?
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Well, the problem that you have now as you go through the rest
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of your Boskin day today, the problem that you have is you
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know, us historians, we're sarcastic and we have a sense of
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humor and we like to mess with people.
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So while this has been a great story, is it true?
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When to leave us questioning you?
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Aren't you other places around the world?
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We've talked about France and their Poisson Diafrio, the fish
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that we can stick on your back and and make you make you feel
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foolish. In Scotland they get 2 days, I
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don't know if you knew this or not.
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They get hump The gawk day is April first where you send your
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victim on ridiculous errands, go get some relative bearing grease
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and then on April 2nd you type a tape, a sign that says kick me
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to their backsides and you get to kick them in the backside.
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Boy the Scottish sound fun don't they?
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Yes, they do. In Iran, they have what they
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call Sis da Bedar. This dates all the way back to
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536 BCE, which is on the Persian New Year.
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People head outsides for picnics and for pranks, and it's
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probably the world's oldest ongoing prank tradition.
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And of course, in Ukraine, you wear clowns, costumes, parades,
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fake news, satire, silliness. All of this is on in in full
29:06
swing across Ukraine today, which means they'll probably ask
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us for more money. Well, isn't that the truth.
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Back to the phones line one you're up on bill make live.
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Good morning. Good morning.
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Who's this? Where you calling from?
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This is rich in satellite beach. Yeah, Rich.
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So, hi, good morning. So I've been on Google and this
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guy Boskin does not exist. This is this is all nonsense.
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This is made-up. Good job, Dave.
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Hi, Dave, your response to that, Are you sure?
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Line 2, you're on Bill Mick live.
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Good morning. Hey, good morning.
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It's Randy from In the Atlantic. Yeah.
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Randy. Dave is lying, there is a
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left-handed whopper and I order them all the time.
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You know, the rapper is open the open to the left-handed person
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and and they always take care of me there.
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Well, I'm glad that they do. That's good.
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That's good. From mid the Atlantic April
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Fools. Exactly.
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I hate this day. I, I, I did test this day.
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Well, and the problem is because it's April first, some things
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may happen and you don't know. For example, in 1984, Marvin
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Gaye, the the announcement that he had been shot and killed was
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was announced on April 1st, but most people just thought it was
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a prank. But of course it wasn't.
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In 2004, Google announced that they were going to give you a 1
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gigabyte e-mail service. Remember this?
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And and nobody believed it because it was a GB.
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Who's giving out a GB and it's April first.
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Well, it turned out to be true. So I guess the biggest warning
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for today is it's Boston Day, so take nothing for granted.
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Trust but verify, as Reagan said.
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And at the end of the day, enjoy yourself, relax, take a deep
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breath and have fun. Oh, and kick your best friend in
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the butt. Yeah, why not?
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I mean, that's with a fish. With a fish stuck on their back.
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I can't wait to do that if done. I am weirdly susceptible to
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these kind of things because I'm not generally serious.
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Now look, I've got a very sarcastic sense of humor.
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I, I, I am attuned to AI believe levity helps you get through a
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lot of things. But doing what we've done for a
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living, Dave, it's like you're always in serious mode when it
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comes to things relating to the news and the like.
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And it can be very easy to pull somebody off on a sidetrack and,
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and, and, and fool them on a day like the day it, it can be very
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easy to do. It can be, you can do it any day
31:57
of the week. You don't necessarily need it to
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be April Fool's Day. But but yeah, it's, and that's
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one of the things that that I enjoy.
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And these sort of these sort of trips down weird, weird
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directions in history are always interesting to me.
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I, I enjoy it. I can't imagine true or not.
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And see, now you don't know you're going to spend the rest
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of the day wondering, did they just make that whole story up or
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is that real? Now where do I care?
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Because it's been fun and we've enjoyed the conversation and,
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and I'm good with that. And, and if we can't stop and
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laugh a little bit every now and then, especially on a day where
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we've got people spending hundreds of thousands of dollars
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to try to win this 30, $30,000 a year job, which makes it really
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April Fool's Day. Question is, if somebody asks
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you today, what's the history of April Fool's Day, what are you
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going to tell them? Nobody knows.
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It's like, how many licks does it take to get to the center of
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a Tootsie Roll Pop 3? The world may never know.
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No, I'm pretty sure it's three. OK.
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Without a bite, then. It's how many we told?
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It's three, I'm sure. Yeah.
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You were told by now, Dave. A cartoon owl told you that?
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Well, I saw it on TV. It must be true.
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Next week we'll do the promiscuous Puritans that Dave
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was talking about. Or last week.
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I still think that could be a fun story.
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It could be. But the McPherson Financial
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That way we're there when you're ready for us.
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And we'll see you tomorrow for election results and wide open
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Wednesday.