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Ghoulish Gary Interview - Behind the Blood! · Beyond The Blood: A Horror Movie Commentary Podcast

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  Speaker 3: Hello, Welcome back to a brand new episode of the
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  Speaker 3: Beyond the Blood Podcast. My name is Chris Higgins. I
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  Speaker 3: go by the Bearded Film Guy online. As always, I'm
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  Speaker 3: joined by my beautiful co host down here, Steve After
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  Speaker 3: Hours Video. How are you man?
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  Speaker 4: Wonderful?
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  Speaker 3: Happy to be here, dude, we have something a little
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  Speaker 3: different today. It's been a while since we've done an
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  Speaker 3: interview one here. We've been just so busy tearing into
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  Speaker 3: commentary tracks and doing expert analysis, you know, leading the
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  Speaker 3: way and film criticism and conversation. Give ourselves some credit here,
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  Speaker 3: doing pretty good. But today we have a little interview,
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  Speaker 3: a little hangout with graphic designer, illustrator artists. I'll add,
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  Speaker 3: gooulish Gary. How are you, man? Thank you for joining us?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, thanks man, thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, of course, I think I was telling you
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  Speaker 3: the other day that a couple months ago, I was
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  Speaker 3: walking through the aisles of Barnes and Noble with my
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  Speaker 3: wife somewhere where we frequent way way too often more
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  Speaker 3: than we should, and came across a whole end cap
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  Speaker 3: full of your new covers for I think it was
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  Speaker 3: what five Stephen King titles, right, Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think it was five and total. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: That's awesome, Man's that's so cool to hear that they
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  Speaker 6: were displayed that way.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Did you go to like any of your local stores
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  Speaker 3: and find them in the wild.
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  Speaker 5: Or I did?
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  Speaker 6: I saw it in the most unexpected place. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: we have something called Shoppers drug Mark here. It's like
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  Speaker 6: a well Greens and they have a book section, but
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  Speaker 6: they also have a post office and that's where I
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  Speaker 6: take on my mail and my orders over too. And yeah,
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  Speaker 6: they were right on the shelf there, like at least three.
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  Speaker 5: Of them anyway.
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  Speaker 6: I did not all of them, but a couple of
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  Speaker 6: them anyway, and I was like, whoa, you know, it's
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  Speaker 6: kind of a trip literally right down the road for me,
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  Speaker 6: you know, seeing your artwork and uh, I guess like
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  Speaker 6: a mainstream store like that was kind of a trip.
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  Speaker 6: And then the first place I saw it was in
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  Speaker 6: Target and I was at horrorund weekend maybe the year
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  Speaker 6: first came out, maybe a couple of years ago now,
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  Speaker 6: and uh down there in Ohio, and I was just,
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  Speaker 6: you know, we always end up going to uh, you know,
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  Speaker 6: a Target ticket supplies when we're at conventions, and there
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  Speaker 6: they were in the book section, and you know, that
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  Speaker 6: was really really cool to see.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I was like, well, this ship, this is
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  Speaker 5: this is pretty cool.
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  Speaker 4: It's gotta be so surreal.
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  Speaker 6: It was, yes, definitely, And yeah it was you know,
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  Speaker 6: you don't you know, we do a lot of like, uh,
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  Speaker 6: you know, boutique things or like a lot of uh,
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  Speaker 6: you know, I guess like I've got a lot of
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  Speaker 6: artwork on on like you know, I guess smaller scale.
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  Speaker 5: Right like uh, I don't want to diminish that anything.
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  Speaker 6: But you know, with a book like that, like a
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  Speaker 6: Mainstrea book, I've never had anything distributed that far and
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  Speaker 6: that that many copies of my artwork being printed, I
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  Speaker 6: guess if you want to look at it that way.
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  Speaker 6: And that's been a total total trip and something very cool,
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  Speaker 6: and I was I'm blessed to have worked with Random
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  Speaker 6: House and and the people there, the art director and
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  Speaker 6: the marketing people there, they're amazing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's incredible.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I came across so there. This is incredibly random.
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  Speaker 3: But I live right near the Jersey Shore. I'm about
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  Speaker 3: an hour and a half away, okay, on the Wildwood Boardwalk.
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  Speaker 3: There's like a little gimmicky like rock shop they call it.
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  Speaker 3: It's like a trendy you know. They sell like Deftones
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  Speaker 3: records and think for over expensive. It's like one hundred
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  Speaker 3: dollars they want for a thirty dollars record, right and right.
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  Speaker 3: They have this little tiny soundtrack section that I always
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  Speaker 3: go to because I always find like out of print
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  Speaker 3: Waxwork records releases there and I was going through one
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  Speaker 3: day and I remember I was I was already like
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  Speaker 3: high on life because I found the Killer Clowns for
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  Speaker 3: Matter Space like reissue, Yeah, grab that, And right behind
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  Speaker 3: it is Friday the thirteenth Part three, the three D
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  Speaker 3: art that you did with the lenticular art, and then
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  Speaker 3: behind that was the Creep Show.
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, right on yeaheah. There was the huge titles
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  Speaker 6: that I got to do with Waxwork. And again, like
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  Speaker 6: you know, when they approached me with these type of
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  Speaker 6: things and little Expert said, hey, do you want to
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  Speaker 6: do the you know, when you want to do Creep Show?
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely, I'm in a huge Romero fan, you know. And
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  Speaker 5: then and then you know.
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  Speaker 6: With the Try thirteen Part three, they said do you
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  Speaker 6: want to do part three with like can we do
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  Speaker 6: something lenticular? Like they had this idea to kind of
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  Speaker 6: make it, you know, do that, and I was like, well,
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  Speaker 6: I've never done that before, but just tell me what
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  Speaker 6: your printer needs, like how do I set how do
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  Speaker 6: I do my file? How do I prepare my my
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  Speaker 6: illustration and my files? And it was actually not that difficult.
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  Speaker 6: I just to make sure every weapon was on its
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  Speaker 6: own layer, and you know you can move that around
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  Speaker 6: and and and just make sure that you could they
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  Speaker 6: could print things separately to make that effect. And it
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  Speaker 6: was so cool when it turned out. You know, it's
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  Speaker 6: it's amazing when you can do like these these printing tricks,
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  Speaker 6: and you know, I don't know what you call them,
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  Speaker 6: you know, like just like extras, you know. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 6: so yeah, Wax for those those two, you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: they've been they've been reprinted many times, so they haven't readone.
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  Speaker 5: The artwork, so I think they're they're still happy with.
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  Speaker 4: Themsel How did that relationship first come about? I was
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  Speaker 4: going to ask because I was going through, you know,
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  Speaker 4: some of your art and going back and looking at
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  Speaker 4: like part six for Jason Lives, and that's like one
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  Speaker 4: of the standouts for me as far as out of
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  Speaker 4: the pieces you've done. How did that initially come to be?
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  Speaker 5: Well, it was maybe about two thousand, I want to
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  Speaker 5: say two thousand and fourteen, I don't know, around there
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  Speaker 5: twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, where I, you know, waxwork first
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  Speaker 5: began and I did their flagship release, which was the
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  Speaker 5: re Animator. Richard band re Animator soundtrack, and.
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  Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean I was I was working with
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  Speaker 6: a couple of other labels already, and you know, Waxborg
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  Speaker 6: have heard me, and they even out of nowhere and
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  Speaker 6: just said, hey, we were launching with the soundtrack and
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  Speaker 6: I love Reanimator, I mean you know, and so I
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  Speaker 6: was like, yeah, like I would love to do that.
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  Speaker 6: So yeah, we did that together, and that just kind
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  Speaker 6: of started the ball rolling. And you know, they've come
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  Speaker 6: to me with a lot of the Slash eighty Slasher
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  Speaker 6: stuff or like some of the seventies stuff, and that's
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  Speaker 6: my pocket.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I'm I'm happy to to get those titles.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm always happy to work with Waxwork anytime they
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  Speaker 5: want to, they want to work together, I'm down, you know. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: And are you They've got they're amazing.
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  Speaker 3: Are you a collector, like a physical media collector? Do
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  Speaker 3: you collect four K's blue rays all that stuff?
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  Speaker 5: I do? Uh?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yourshell like it looked like mine behind me, you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I definitely I've done the whole thing. You know, I'm
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  Speaker 6: old enough to where it was like I was doing
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  Speaker 6: the VHS when I was a teenager and in my twenties,
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  Speaker 6: and then I sold all those for college money and
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  Speaker 6: mostly beer money probably, And then records. I had so
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  Speaker 6: many old metal records that were like classics, and at
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  Speaker 6: one time I sold a lot of those when CDs
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  Speaker 6: came out. And then I've done the whole media's physical
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  Speaker 6: media surf, you know, Like, but there's certain movies that
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  Speaker 6: like now I have a four careport K player, and
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  Speaker 6: I'm read buying certain movies that you know, you have
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  Speaker 6: to you have to have, like the new.
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  Speaker 5: Extras on them. Presentations are different on some them. Uh
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  Speaker 5: some I I believe that doesn't need a four K
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  Speaker 5: probably not, but you.
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  Speaker 6: Know some some deserve it. Right But you know again, yeah, no,
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  Speaker 6: I am a physical records. It's always records, uh blu
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  Speaker 6: rays movies, you know. I I you know, I love
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  Speaker 6: what Del Toro said about you know, uh, you know
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  Speaker 6: streaming could go away, so you have to be a
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  Speaker 6: curator of your own you know, you know, your own
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  Speaker 6: uh you know collection. You have to be a curator
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  Speaker 6: in your own love of movies, right, So and I
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  Speaker 6: love I love that he said that because it's true.
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  Speaker 6: That's what we're doing here, like that's you know, and
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  Speaker 6: we want to have. I want the artwork, I want
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  Speaker 6: the special features, you know, I want to I want
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  Speaker 6: to own it.
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  Speaker 5: I want to make sure that I have it. And
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  Speaker 5: with yes, and and toys to uh there's there's some
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  Speaker 5: toys too that I've been getting back into, like eighties
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  Speaker 5: toys and you know, just like like just sort of
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  Speaker 5: like you know, but the odd thing here and there,
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  Speaker 5: but nothing crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I just tore into the h the Ignite film's
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  Speaker 3: Bride of re Animator four K. I watched, watched the
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  Speaker 3: movie a couple of times. I watched a few of
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  Speaker 3: the commentaries, dove into the new there's a great like
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  Speaker 3: hour long new documentary on it that's that's really really good.
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  Speaker 3: And uh, I was I was telling a friend of
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  Speaker 3: mine recently, how much like I've come around to that
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  Speaker 3: movie because I love re Animator, one of my favorites
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  Speaker 3: of all time, absolutely yeah, and I've really grown to
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  Speaker 3: I think with this release, love Bride almost just as much.
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  Speaker 3: The only thing that drives me nuts, yeah yeah, And
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  Speaker 3: the only thing that drives me nuts is that Richard
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  Speaker 3: Band had to go switch to a electronic score and
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  Speaker 3: it just does not have the same hit as the
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  Speaker 3: orchestral score from the first movie does, and it bis
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  Speaker 3: me because you can hear how much it lacks in
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  Speaker 3: like that depth over the you know, or castro One.
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  Speaker 3: So it's just like one of those things. I was like,
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  Speaker 3: if I have to be picky about a movie, that's
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  Speaker 3: what I want to be picky about, you know.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well that's cool.
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  Speaker 6: I mean that's why, as as you know, film fans,
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  Speaker 6: that's what we do. You know, it's like in our
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  Speaker 6: blood to be you know, critical, and you know, hopefully
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  Speaker 6: it's constructive, but at the same time it's you know,
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  Speaker 6: we're judging based.
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  Speaker 5: On what we're seeing. Man, So absolutely I'll do it,
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  Speaker 5: you know. So yep.
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  Speaker 4: Well, another collaboration I kind of wanted to ask you
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  Speaker 4: about was like Mondo. Mondo was another that's another company
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  Speaker 4: I know you've done some work with. Specifically, the one
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  Speaker 4: that always stands out to me is with Halloween four.
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  Speaker 4: How did you initially build that connection as opposed to Waxwork?
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  Speaker 4: Was that beforehand or after You've been doing some work
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  Speaker 4: with Waxwork Records.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, the Mondo connection is kind of funny because I
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  Speaker 5: actually kind of have a double connection there because back
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  Speaker 5: in the early days, like two thousand and nine.
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  Speaker 6: When they first started, they were working out of the
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  Speaker 6: Ritz Alamo draft House in Austin, in the basement, and
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  Speaker 6: you know, it's just like three or four of the guys,
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  Speaker 6: you know, like you know, And so they had they
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  Speaker 6: were doing a screening of Street Trash. So they had
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  Speaker 6: seen Realmwork magazine, which is the magazine that I used
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  Speaker 6: to work for, the horror magazine out of Toronto, Canada,
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  Speaker 6: and and so I was their art director, the original
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  Speaker 6: art director there for a number of years. And so
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  Speaker 6: they had seen my stuff and they said, Hey, do
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  Speaker 6: you want to do a Street Trash poster? And I
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  Speaker 6: said absolutely, But I literally had no outside time and
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  Speaker 6: I cranked this thing out and I got it delivered
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  Speaker 6: in time. But you know, I mean it was my
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  Speaker 6: first screen print as well, so I was really like, oh,
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  Speaker 6: it's got to be I gotta do the color steps
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  Speaker 6: on this too. So that was like my first, like
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  Speaker 6: I guess, real Mondo poster. It was an Alamo draft House,
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  Speaker 6: you know, poster.
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  Speaker 5: And then.
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  Speaker 6: A couple of years went by and I wasn't doing
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  Speaker 6: much work outside of the magazine really. I would just
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  Speaker 6: take the odd thing on and so a couple of
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  Speaker 6: years come by, and then they want another poster and
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  Speaker 6: it was for I think it was White Zombie. The
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  Speaker 6: go see White Zombie and so yeah, and I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 6: you know what, I was still at the mag but
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  Speaker 6: I you know, I I you know, you can't say
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  Speaker 6: notice certain things. And Aero Video two was another early connection.
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  Speaker 6: But anyway, with Mondo, you know, I was so blessed
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  Speaker 6: to be part of that wave of like, you know, gig.
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  Speaker 5: Posters for movies and oh my god, and the whole.
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  Speaker 6: Silk screen thing and and and the Mondo cons We
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  Speaker 6: went to every one of them.
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  Speaker 5: I was invited to every one of them, and I
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  Speaker 5: went to all of them. And yeah, I made some
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  Speaker 5: lifelong friends there and and you know, it's it's good
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  Speaker 5: to see that. You know, things have changed within the
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  Speaker 5: poster bubble, and you know, but people adapt, you know,
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  Speaker 5: people have adapted since you know, the old Mondo is
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  Speaker 5: no more, and you know, it's uh, you know, it's
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  Speaker 5: just something different now. Things.
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  Speaker 6: There's there's other companies that came out of it that
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  Speaker 6: all the artists that worked for the old Mondo are
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  Speaker 6: working with so and and and some people are still
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  Speaker 6: working with the new Mondo too, And that's great too.
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  Speaker 3: So if your do you know if your street trash
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  Speaker 3: poster is in the Art of Mondo book that they
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  Speaker 3: put out.
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  Speaker 5: Because I you know, I don't know if it made it.
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  Speaker 5: That's a good question. I know that my.
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  Speaker 6: I know that my Vertico, my Vertigo one did the
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  Speaker 6: orange one, and then might having another one.
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  Speaker 3: I'll check when we're done recording. I'll flip do it
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  Speaker 3: and check, because I I just randomly flipped through that book.
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  Speaker 3: It's one of the ones that that's always on the
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  Speaker 3: top of the pile on our table. So yeah, and
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  Speaker 3: see if that's.
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  Speaker 6: You know, I'd be surprised if it was, to be honest,
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  Speaker 6: because you know, it was like it was sort of
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  Speaker 6: there's only seventy five eight of them, which was funny too.
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  Speaker 6: But I will I will say this and it's and
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  Speaker 6: it's uh and it's it's defense as as my first poster.
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  Speaker 6: Jason Eisner told me one time years ago when I
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  Speaker 6: met him for the first time, he said, that's been
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  Speaker 6: my favorite Mondo poster for a long time because I
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  Speaker 6: would go to the Ritz and see.
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  Speaker 5: It on the wall.
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  Speaker 6: And that's cool, that's pretty that's pretty nice to hear
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  Speaker 6: something like that. So I was like, okay, right on,
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  Speaker 6: right on street trash, you know, and I love street trash.
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  Speaker 5: It's just I dog on it because it's my.
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  Speaker 6: First poster, right, I'm always gonna look at it and
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  Speaker 6: be like I you know, you're always gonna look at
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  Speaker 6: your old work.
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  Speaker 4: And oh, of course and judge it.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Have you ever, Chris, did you ever collect Mondo posters
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  Speaker 4: at all?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 3: You know, I didn't really get into posters, uh, not
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  Speaker 3: even until like we've bought a few more. But it
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  Speaker 3: was one of those things where like I never really
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  Speaker 3: had like the wall space to put a lot of them,
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  Speaker 3: and they would just kind of get stored away. And
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  Speaker 3: then the problem with that is like you run such
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  Speaker 3: a risk of them getting ruined.
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  Speaker 5: Now you more of a flat file, you know, drawers
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  Speaker 5: and yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and now with like there's I have a couple
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  Speaker 3: like theatrical posters hanging in here. We have actually right
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  Speaker 3: behind the computer here, Buddy Cooper sent us Steve and
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  Speaker 3: I signed original one sheets for the mutilator, so like
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  Speaker 3: I'll have that stuff up. But great, great, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I know to get like one of those frames that
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  Speaker 3: you can switch out the poster from the front without
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  Speaker 3: taking it from the wall because in our dude, in
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  Speaker 3: our apartment, there's like fifty layers of paint on these walls, you.
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  Speaker 6: Know, right, Yeah, yeah, we we switch out like season
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  Speaker 6: only will my wife and I will switch out posters,
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  Speaker 6: you know, every everyon We'll try to, like, you know, Halloween,
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  Speaker 6: we have all of our Halloween three was up this year,
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  Speaker 6: you know, all the specifically Halloween three.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you know that kind of thing. It's fun
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: and then Christmas time will throw out the odd one.
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: But yeah, it's uh, it's fun. Yeah, and again it's
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: you know, it's posters count as physical media, absolutely, right,
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: So I've slowed down on my I would definitely say
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: I've slowed down on buying posters.
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: Like, but.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: Do you have any favorite like one sheets in your
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: collection or I guess hung up throughout your place?
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: Sure, I do? You know? The one that comes to
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: mind is a Maniac by Ken Taylor. M hmm.
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: It's uh, it's just like the stoic portrait of Oh,
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: come on, jes this is what happens when maniac what's
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: his name? Guy in Maniac?
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Oh, Joe, thank.
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: You Spinel, let's headed this now, Joe the red one, right, Yes.
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: The red one.
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, if you can find that one, it's it's pretty,
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: it's it's just so like it's just so like creepy
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: and cool that Yeah, and we have that one hanging up.
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: There's there's been a few down the line. I'm for sure,
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: you know, like.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: I was, you know, lucky again to like, you know,
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: have access to to a lot. I would. I would
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: go to the art shows to at Austin Gallery.
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: They would have their own they have their own gallery
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: there for a long time, so they would do like
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: original art shows, scream prints and originals. So I was
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: doing some of that with them too, which is great.
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: I went to a couple of art shows. Jason Emmonston,
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: who you guys may have heard of, does a lot
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: of physical media stuff too. He uh, he was down
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: there on his art shows and we would just go
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: and just to support.
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: It was such a cool, you know thing. But yeah, anyway,
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: that was a long answer.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: No, it's good.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's all good.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: This is kind of off the cuff, but I wanted
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: to bring this up because we were we were very
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: excited at the Arrow announcements for the Friday the thirteenth films,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: the remake. Jason x Jason Goes to Hell. We had
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Adam Marcus on the show. Oh cool, and I think
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: we were all sort of flooding, I feel like, yeah,
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: flooding the internet waiting for those posters to be turned
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: into a Freddi versus Jason poster and uh oh yeah,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: I hope you drew one up just for on, just
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: to see.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: You please we need it.
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you know, maybe I'll just do one because
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: you're right. I hey, if I get the call, I'm down,
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: you know, like I would love to push off.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: It's funny how things happen in a series sometimes, Like
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: they had those three titles. It started with the two
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: thousand and nine remake, and they just say, can you
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: do something with the two masks, and yeah, just kind
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: of figured out a way to split them without just
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: an interesting way of splitting them with the newspaper type thing,
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: and then it went from there. But those were fun,
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: you know, I like those movies. It's been really fun
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: revisiting them again. Like I had seen, you know, I'd
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: seen them numerous times over the years, but like it
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: had been a minute for.
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: Jason Goes to Hell, and it had been a long
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: time for the remake Jason X. I've probably seen more
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: than a couple of times in there.
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: But it was cool to see that all three of
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: those got the you know, this massive love for Marrow.
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: I mean, you know, they really gave it the royal treatment,
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: and you know it's I think they're those sequels are worthy.
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: Of it, you know, I don't know, it's fun to
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: see them again. And yeah, it was again.
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: It was amazing to be able to contribute to to
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: those films, you know that way?
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: Did you did you have a favorite out of those
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: three pieces that you did.
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: I think the two thousand and nine remake one is
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: my favorite out of the three, and then I don't know.
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: I like the Jason X one is pretty cool too.
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: I like the the one in the so when you
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: open the book, inside is a foreigners report of like
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: the part nine one of Jason Hell And uh, I'm
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: just making this stuff up, like I'm I'm watching them
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: taking it from the movie, but I'm.
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: Just making all this stuff up, right, and I'm just
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: kind of having fun, and and I'm presenting it to Arrow,
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: and I'm sure they're present. Well, I know they presented
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: it to Adam because Adam came up to me Texas
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: Fright Mare was it last year? Then maybe the year
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: before last year when we first came out, because they
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: had him signing him down his copies down at their
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: booth and so Arrow was there. They were the sponsor
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: for the show, and so Arrow brings over Adam and
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: you know, I get to meet at him and he's like, dude.
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: I love He's like, I love this. I love that.
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: I was like, dude, thank you so much.
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: Man.
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: It's this pleasure meeting and all this stuff, you know,
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: thank you. I had so much fun.
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: And I was like, you know, all that stuff in
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: the Corners report, it's all it's all bs right, and.
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: He's just like, I know, but I love it. I
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: totally get it. I totally get it. I'm like, right
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: on man, right on it, because I'm just like, you know,
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: just having my own fun with it, you know. And
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: then you know, sometimes you feel like when you are
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: doing posters, you feel like, okay, you are trying to
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: build the world, right, like you're trying to build on
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: their world a little bit, and then sometimes you're just
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: trying to have a little fun with it too and
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: see what you can get away with. I just love
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: doing that.
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: Stuff like just coming up with like these infographic type
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: stuff that I've done for some other things too, where
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: it's like kind of break things down in a sort
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: of a fun fan way, like what makes this movie?
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: What what little nuggets in this movie? Can I highlight
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: in these you know, peripheral illustrations that need to be done?
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: Oh? Absolutely?
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: Lets and stuff like that, and records and you know,
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: I love doing the center labels and you know what
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: can I do for a center label for you know,
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: whatever whatever.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: My my favorite of the three, just because of the
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: colors was Jason Goes to Hell. I love the orange
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: in that, but also that's a movie that I just
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: have always loved. It's been one of my favorite. In
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: the right that they're enfranchised, that's yeah, I mean it
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: in four K is like it was. It feels unreal
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: because I remember having to hunt down an unrated D
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: to watch the fool ten you know kill sequence.
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: Right and right things we had to do back then
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: to like oh my god, uncut scene.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and then now now being able to own
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: on disc like a remastered sharper than ever, better colors
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: than ever, with that full and it's it's kind of unreal.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: You like, I don't get I don't get nostalgic for it.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: I'm just sort of in like a disbelief like how
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: did this go from?
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: This?
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: This so cool? Right? It seems like yeah, like now
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: I'm now sorry what was that? Oh?
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, there was so much love
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: put into each one of these releaks.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right, and it is.
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: It is a trip because now it's like, well, I'm
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: holding onto like the uncut version of this movie.
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: I never thought i'd see that. I never thought that
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: this would get released. I remember.
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: In Ontario we had our own little video Nasty Era
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: in the area eighty. You know, our censorship boards here
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: were going crazy and they were, you know, censoring all
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: kinds of you know. I remember Freddy's Nightmares was heavily
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: censored on TV and that was upsetting. When I was
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: like sixteen, you know, you know, all the Friday movies
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: were getting censored. The very first time I watched Day
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: of the Dead was a rental copy probably from well
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: it was from Jumbo Video. Probably wore a blockbuster, but
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: it was heavily censored, like it was like half a
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: gunshot would go off and maybe on to the next scene.
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: You wouldn't see the whip, you wouldn't see the zombie
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: fall off the ladder, you wouldn't see the shovel push
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: off and the head half the head push off with it.
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: You wouldn't see him, you know, just maybe him getting up,
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: but you wouldn't see the full spill of the zombie.
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: All that stuff was gone, and it was like, whoa
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: what happened here? Like and I remember Zombie the full
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: t movie was censored. Oh, dead alive that whole lot.
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: I'm overseeen totally.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: How do you end about how do you do the
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: third act of that movie without that?
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: I mean I think I think I think maybe they
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: do show like, you know, him using it a bit,
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: but like it's yeah, you.
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: Know what, that's like a what a six minute scene
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: or something like that. It's like turned down in like
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: four seconds maybe a minute anyway, So it was like, yeah,
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: so everything was like, oh TCM two Texas chancel too
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: completely censored. Oh I remember seeing pictures in the magazine
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: is going, uh, like I shot here, but I saw
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: this effect scene, but I'm not seeing it in the movie,
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: And that was frustrating. And then it wasn't until like
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: Anchor Bay and like the early the late nineties, nineties,
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: maybe ninety nine, two thousands, Anchor Bay came around and
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: started to release those clamshell cases of movies DVDs and
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: and they were releasing that stuff on cut, And that
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: was the first time, like maybe in like the early
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: you know, I don't know whatever, early two thousands when
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: I finally got to see Day of the Dead uncut,
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: I finally got to see Texas chanceaw uncut, because yeah,
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: they're different movies.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: When oh, yeah, yeah, I was gonna ask what's it
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: like to watch I mean, if you can remember, what's
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: it like watching The Day of the Dead for the
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: first time uncut and realizing that you missed literally every
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: Tom Savini's masterpiece. You've missed everything.
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: It was heavily, heavily censored. So yeah, no, it was
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: a different experience. I remember being just like, well, it's done,
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: and the Dead is still my favorite. I just remember
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: thinking that. But when you watch Day of the Dead
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: again and all those scenes are put back in, and
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: you know, it's like and and and you're seeing everything
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: you're meant to see.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: It's a kick ass sequel.
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: Too, Like there was a time where I'm thinking Day,
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: Like you know what I mean, Like there was a
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: time where Day was all of a sudden my favorite
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: you know, so you know, but yeah, I mean it's
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: just supposed to show that, like you can take out Gore. Yeah,
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: and I get it it. It can be gratuitous, but
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: it can also move the story too. And if you
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: cut everything out, well then it's really gonna, you know,
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: really gonna effect your movie big time.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: I think that's what's crazy, because this is going live
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: on a Monday. If you're listening to this on Day
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: one tomorrow, Grindhouse Releasing is putting up their pre order
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: for Cannibal Holocaust on four K I one of my
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: favorite movies of all time.
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, right on, Yeah, it's it's it's it's got
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: it's got teeth for sure, Dude.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: I had no idea there was like a never before
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: seen cut of this movie. Like this is the first
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: time ever this cut is coming out.
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: It's like, oh really, I didn't know that either.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Still in twenty twenty six, we're discovering footage from
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: a movies that what I thought have already been put out,
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: And I believe it's like six or seven minutes of
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: extra footage. But you know, Bob Morowsky and his team
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Movie Grindhouse found it and they're gonna be putting it out,
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: and that's it's incredible that that that's the current climate
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: we live in for the genre and for physical media,
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: that that's happening.
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: No, that's I mean, you know, if they keep finding stuff,
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: you know, horror fans are gonna want to see everything.
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: If it's one of your favorite movies, we're gonna want
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: to see every everything that you know is you know
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: behind it, right, So that's awesome.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: When animal stuff out. Keep the animal.
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: Correct, but you know, you gotta.
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: I've always I've always had a lot of respect for
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: Cannibal Holocaust because it's a movie that you know it uh,
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: it shook the foundations, right, and I think films are
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: supposed to do that, you know, they're they are supposed
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: to do that in yeah ways, they are supposed to
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: be taboo, you know. I felt I feel that way
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: about the original Texas Chainsaw. I feel you know, yeah,
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: there's certain you know, monarch, you know, movies like you know,
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: and Cannibal Holocaust. You know, you got to give it respect.
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: You know, because of what they did, what they accomplished,
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: the you know, the environment they were in and everything. Right, Yeah, yeah,
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: Tuesday kind of it's it's filmmak. It's it's you know,
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: it's filmmaking, gorilla filmmaking.
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well Tuesday shaping out to be like a monumental
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: day in my life. We have that pre order going up,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: and then I'm seeing Texas Chainsaw Masker in theaters for yeah.
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: I would like to see that.
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: I mean, I also am really interested in that animated
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: version that the guy from Skinner Darkly is.
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's really cool.
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: Actually, I'm it's it's I think it's pretty much a
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: frame by frame, you know, interpretation. But I love animation,
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: old school animation, and they are saying it's hand drawn,
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: and that's nice to see these days too, right, So
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: I definitely they you know, Texas Chansaw just keeps speaking.
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: That movie just keeps like going number one of course,
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: but like just the way they've handled their anniversaries and
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: the way they've handled the licensing, it just keeps my
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: interest peaked all the time, Like I'm always looking forward
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: to like what have they got coming out?
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: Now? It's this animated movie just sounds awesome.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, did you see the Night of the Animated Dead?
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: They came out a couple of years ago, the animation
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: of Night Living Dead.
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: I gotta be honest, I think I saw a little
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: bit of it, but I don't know if I stuck
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: with it.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I never watched it. I just like
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: you mentioned animation, so I figured you probably checked it
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: out at that point.
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: You know. Yeah, yeah, maybe I didn't. I don't know.
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: I don't remember watching the whole thing, but uh, I.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Did have I remember, I remember like picking it up.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: I was in a store and saw the blu ray
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: of it, and I was like, this looks like a
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: like a nineties Nickelodeon version of it more than like
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: a hand you know.
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: I think the way it was presented in this style
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: of animation, my mind just blossed over it.
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: I don't know, like I don't know, I don't know.
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: I don't want to knock anything, but you know, it is,
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: it is.
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: It is cool to see, like, you know, animated movies
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: come out, like you know, these these ips that we love,
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: you know, like you know, sometimes you know, there's these
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: these satellite things that come out that are just.
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: Really cool, and that's one of them.
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: Like, you know, uh, it's such an iconic movie, it
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: makes sense to draw it. Yeah, it makes sense to
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: turn it into a drawing if I just could put
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: it so simply, like, you know, so I can't wait
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: to see to see that, Garry.
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: I was gonna ask because you're you're from Ontario, correct,
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: mm hmm okay. So like growing up, like when you
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: were getting into horror, was David Cronenberg pretty prominent, like
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: as far as the films at the time you were
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: really getting into horror.
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely.
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: The Fly okay, at if I'm gonna if I'm gonna
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: think like in Scanners was another one I saw when
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: I was young. And you know, when I was like,
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: you know, twelve or thirteen, I mean I was buying
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: all the monster magazines and I was buying Mad Magazine.
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: I was buying you know, Fango Deep Red. I was
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: really trying to learn everything I could about horror movies.
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: And then you know, we couldn't get a lot of
• 34:40
  Speaker 6: the European stuff, but that's what I wanted to see.
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: I was sort of like, okay, I loved I love
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: like I guess the Freddie and Jason, and I loved
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: all the Universal monsters, and I loved American horror films.
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: But when I was like, I guess, am I late
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: maybe mid teens and really trying to figure out, well,
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: who's Luccio Pucci, Who's Dario or Jen to like what
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: are they doing over there? And like, you know, they're
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: doing some pretty crazy stuff, amazing stuff over there. And
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: I was pretty young watching Zombie. I remember being very
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: young watching Zombie and and House by the Cemetery and
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: and getting on that wave and Chess ballin who was
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: a journalist for you know, I guess gore Zone was
• 35:20
  Speaker 6: another magazine that I absolutely loved, So I was always
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: reading that and he had a piece in that you
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: had to call him in that, so I was always
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: following what he.
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: Was doing and talking about and highlighting.
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: Even I didn't agree with everything, but you know, that's
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: that's what it's about, right.
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: But for the most part though, he was sort of
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: like the Hunter S. Thompson of you know, a horror
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: back then, and I just loved his reviews. So I
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: was kind of getting my education there and and just
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: you know, worked in a video store and but they
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: didn't have titles that you know, It wasn't until I
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: moved to Toronto where I could really find like Ring
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: Goo or or like you know, really like European stuff,
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: you know, like hard to find stuff until I went there.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: And anyway, were you able to get a little bit
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: more into the Italian horror like at that point then,
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: or to tap into some of those movies?
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean once once I found a video
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: store where like they had all the all the Baba's,
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: all the fool Cheese, all the Gento's. Yeah. I would
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: just go through the catalog, you know, and yeah, and.
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: There's standouts, right, I mean, you know, like The Beyond
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: is always a big one for me, is always a
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: big movie for me.
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: I've always loved it.
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: I saw it, like you know, screening years and years
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: ago in Toronto, and it just you know, cemented myself
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: as a horror fan, you know.
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: And yeah, like when you see some of these movies
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: in the.
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: Theater with like like minded people, you know, know, you
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: know you'll never forget some of those nights. You know
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: that there's some of these movies become life changers because
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: you know, you you start to follow that movie or
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: the people, the fans of that movie or the people
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: that actually make that movie you might meet at these conventions. Yeah,
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: and uh, and then you know, and if you're like,
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: if you're a writer, you could be writing for that movie,
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: where you could be drawing for that movie.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: You know, like I keep yeah, stick with stuff, be passionate.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: I think that's like it's I always I always fall
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: into like a weird pocket where I want to really
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: be like I I obviously always want to be expressive
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: about something that I love that I feel like not
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: a lot of people do. Like I went through a
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: whole run where I got into like genre lo on,
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: like fascination and recue for a Vampire and all this stuff.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: And I remember going to, uh, there's a convention right
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: near me, Monster Media and the best. Yeah. Yeah, it
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: just actually today was the last day of it for
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: this this month. Paul Bear Press was there setting up
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: and they were selling shirts.
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah they're great.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're incredible, man. And I always end up spending
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: like one hundred dollars with them and I thought a
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: fascination T shirt from them, and they're like, dude, we
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: brought this shirt here every year for the last like
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: five years, and nobody's ever asked for it. They're like,
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: it's awesome to hear somebody and yeah, I went on
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: for an hour about genre lo on and you know,
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: like and it was it was so cool, and it
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: made me want to come home and use my platform
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: to talk about it more to hopefully inspire some other
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: people to check it out and get it.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely, And yeah he did Grapes of Death too, right,
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: did he not?
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, Grapes of Death.
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's one of my favorites by him.
• 38:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, a bunch of stuff.
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the conventions are the best, like, you know, for
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: that you're gonna find those obscure items or you're gonna
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: find people that are into that, you know, like.
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: Like minded individuals.
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: I love that movie too, and you know, it's it's
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: it's a lot of fun to.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: To meet other people and you know, to to keep
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: doing this stuff. It's just been amazing.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, It's it's funny because I always, like, I get it.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: As a vendor, you want to put your most popular,
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: like mainstream stuff to the front, because that's what most
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: people are gonna grab and buy. But I've kind of
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: made it like my mission too. When I go to booths.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: I try to find the one thing that like nobody
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: else will point out for the day, like oh yeah,
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Like it'll be like a painter and I'll try to
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: find the most obscure piece. And every single time, usually
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: at least once or twice at a convention, somebody will
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: tell my wife or I like, you know, nobody's ever
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: pointed that out, like nobody's ever interested in that. We
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: try to do that, you know what I mean.
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: And you just made that, you made their day. You know,
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: that's that's that's what it is right there.
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: I mean I've got prints in my my book where
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: it's like, am I gonna spell you know, a mausoleum
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: print at this show? I think I will, or there
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: might be a show where I don't think I will sell,
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: you know.
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: A Spooky's print at this show. You know that kind
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: of thing, right.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: I'll buy a mausoleum print. Yeah that's good.
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: But you know it's one of those things where you know,
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: all that obscure stuff, like you know, I have a
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: range of stuff I love, so like you know, when
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: I'm at a con like I'll love like the vinegar
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: syndrome stuff that's like, you know, the bottom of the barrel,
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: like no budget stuff to like the big budget stuff,
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: you know. But I think as a horror fan, I
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: definitely lean more towards eighties seventies stuff, and totally that's
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: the stuff that I kind of focus on more or less.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: Well, you talked about The Fly a little bit ago,
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: and my wife and I just watch that for two nights,
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: dude it And I was telling my wife first of all,
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: that Howard Shore score is, Oh yeah, that. I think.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: What I admire most about Kroniberg is the guy wastes
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: no time. That movie starts and ends with zero. It
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: just goes. And you have to admire a director who
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: doesn't need to set anything up, just start here we
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: are and then just end on the lowest point of
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: the movie.
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: And it's such a drag the ending, but it's such
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: a powerful ending. I mean, it's it's with you, so
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: Like you really like that ending just lingers, Yeah, you know,
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: it's it's you know, you feel so so so sorry
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: for him, you know, but it's a crushing, crushing ending,
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: you know. But uh, it's an excellent movie. It's it's
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: one of Cronerberg's best. And I remember like just being
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: a young horror fan and and you know that movie
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: was everywhere when it was, you know, being released back then,
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: and just seeing all the articles on it and just like, wow,
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: I can't wait to see this thing.
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: And it lived up.
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: Like it's a movie that lives up to the hype,
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: you know, like it lives up all I've always heard
• 42:14
  Speaker 6: about this movie. If you haven't seen The Fly, you know,
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: it's such a treat to it would be it would
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: be such a treat to watch for the first time.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, Yeah, Steve, have you ever seen the
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: original of The Fly?
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: It's been a long time.
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: I was just gonna say, yeah, the original excellent. I mean,
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: it's great on its own, it is, right, I mean
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: it's dry. I want to say that, but it's like,
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: you know, it's it's uh, it's a fifties you know, uh,
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: can't be movie, but it's I always I love the original.
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: I love all three of them really well.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Revenge of the Fly is my favorite of the three.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: I think Curse got a little do you know, but yeah, Revenge.
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's you know, it's such an oddball sequel,
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: but I love it.
• 43:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: And that's also I think I don't know about the
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: third one.
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: I think it is, but I know the first two
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: are shot in Montreal, Canada, which makes.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they steve. The thing that's so cool about
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: the original Fly is that they I saw Cronenbergs first,
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: so when you go back, obviously you know it's not
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: going to be the same. But yeah, of course it
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: was really cool how effective it was by showing so little,
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: because most of the time he had something covering, like
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: his head and stuff, so you only see like the
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: arm and stuff. But then you get to that final
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: like three minutes of the movie when it's revealed you know,
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: the web and stuck into it, and it is like
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: such a shocker of an ending, and it's it's it's
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: another one that ends on a bit of a downer,
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: you know, yeah.
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: Oh absolutely yeah, and it's it's yeah, it's a shocking
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: ending for like the fifties.
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: Would be you know, it would be so cool to
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: see that. But yeah, again, like, yeah, cronemberg I've always
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: loved his movies. I'm just trying to think of some
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: of the other eighties, like you know, stuff Stupart Gordon.
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: We kind of touched on him, but he was always
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: a big director for me. John Carpenter. Yeah yeah, Christine.
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: Is one of my favorite movies by him.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, oh my god, somebody's finally on my way here.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: We've got.
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: It's so badass. I I love that movie. Yeah, you know,
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: I mean, I you know, I love the Thing, of course,
• 44:24
  Speaker 6: Like the Thing is, like, you know, arguably arguably his
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: best you know, I mean, Halloween is arguably his best.
• 44:32
  Speaker 6: I mean, he's got a lot of bangers, you know, so,
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: but yeah.
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: Carpenter's consistent. You know, there's a pocket consistency there.
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: There's enough there, right, Like he's got an amazing career
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: there where you could just revisit his films forever.
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: And I was gonna say, because you more recently did
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: the piece for in the Mouth of Madness, right for
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: Terror Vision. Yeah, yeah, oh so good.
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: Oh thanks, yeah again like getting to do like I
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: love doing soundtracks, like I love love doing the artwork
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: for movies and for scores rather and and so yeah,
• 45:22
  Speaker 6: when they came to me with that, I was like,
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: you know, it was amazing. I was like, yeah, of course,
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: I can't. I can't say no to that one. I
• 45:29
  Speaker 6: watched the movie again. I said, yeah, this is again
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: like a movie I hadn't seen a little bit, and
• 45:34
  Speaker 6: you know, reading up on the score, it had me
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: really you know interested. Again, it was like I didn't know,
• 45:40
  Speaker 6: or at least i'd forgotten or I didn't know that
• 45:42
  Speaker 6: he was inspired by Metallica's Enter Sandman for that. So
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: that movie came out around that time, and so if
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: you listen to the soundtrack, it's kind of a heavier
• 45:55
  Speaker 6: Carpenter score. So he was iro Metallica, which I thought
• 45:59
  Speaker 6: was cool. And and yeah, again you get to do
• 46:03
  Speaker 6: some fun stuff with like the just when you work
• 46:06
  Speaker 6: with packaging, you get to do you know, there's a
• 46:08
  Speaker 6: lot of artwork that needs to be done, the gatefolds
• 46:12
  Speaker 6: and the back covers and the labels, and I just
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: love doing it all and and trying to kind of
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: tie in again nuggets of stuff from the movies, little
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: fan favorite things. What can I sneak in here that's
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: going to be something unique and new to the movie
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: and that fans of the movie are gonna go, oh,
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: that's a cool take.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I'm sure that one feels special as well,
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: especially with the recent passing of Sam Neil.
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And it's it's so sad to see
• 46:45
  Speaker 6: so many people you know, from our generation of filmmakers,
• 46:51
  Speaker 6: you know, leaving us right and actors and directors, and
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: it's it's, you know, time is just going on and
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: we're just gonna I don't know. To me, it's like, uh,
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: they're gonna live forever in in pop culture, they're gonna
• 47:08
  Speaker 6: live forever.
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: And you know, these these horror movies are gonna live
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: on their history.
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, so we can always appreciate the people
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: that we're in them and and you know, in the
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: in the in the movies themselves, the art themselves, we
• 47:22
  Speaker 6: can always appreciate you.
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, well I was I was gonna ask speaking
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: of like creating artwork for a film. Uh, like, when
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: you you like have a commission, what's the first thing
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: you typically do. Do you go back and rewatch the
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: movie or do some sort of research or do reference
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: any like specific artwork for inspiration.
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I'll definitely watch a movie again if
• 47:47
  Speaker 6: it's one that maybe I need to revisit, because yeah,
• 47:51
  Speaker 6: when you're doing a poster or a soundtrack design for
• 47:55
  Speaker 6: for something, you know, you're listening with you know, New
• 47:59
  Speaker 6: Year's watching with new eyes and you're watching it differently
• 48:02
  Speaker 6: because now I have to interpret this thing with a
• 48:07
  Speaker 6: piece of artwork. So I love doing that lovery visiting things.
• 48:13
  Speaker 6: And yeah, I'll do that. And I'll just do some
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: quick thumbnails and you know, I'll just sort of like
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: get some concepts together, get some ideas down, and you know,
• 48:24
  Speaker 6: I'll present anywhere between three to six ideas totally different,
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: you know, totally different sketches pretty quick black and white.
• 48:35
  Speaker 6: I don't want to spend too much time at this
• 48:36
  Speaker 6: stage because you know, it's napkin sketches basically, but they're
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: a little better than that, you know, but enough to
• 48:45
  Speaker 6: show that this is what I'm thinking, this is what
• 48:47
  Speaker 6: I'm thinking, and and yeah, oftentimes i'll reference other Okay,
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: maybe I want like a Basio go Gos type lighting here,
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: you know, like a famous monster's lighting, or like I
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: don't know, or like Stuart Gordon I remember working on Reanimator, going,
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: this thing is just going to be green, Reanimator green all.
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: The way, like you know, it seems appropriate, you know.
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: And you just to me, it's like I'll pick a
• 49:13
  Speaker 6: color from the movie. If there's a predominant color from
• 49:15
  Speaker 6: a movie, I'll pick that and go with it. Or
• 49:19
  Speaker 6: if there's like old marketing material, I'll look at like
• 49:22
  Speaker 6: say like I love.
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: I love love love. H. G.
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: Lewis is herschel Gordon Lewis's marketing from back in the day,
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: like and Wizard of Gore and all that stuff. It's black,
• 49:36
  Speaker 6: all of it's black and white and red. It's all
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: very simple, stark, but you know, just just you know, screams, exploitation,
• 49:46
  Speaker 6: you know it streams, you know taboo, you know it's
• 49:53
  Speaker 6: it's it's just it isn't doing exactly what it needs
• 49:55
  Speaker 6: to do. It's reeling you in and saying you need
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: to come and watch this if you dare right, that
• 50:01
  Speaker 6: type of stuff, And I love I love that kind
• 50:04
  Speaker 6: of stuff, and so I kind of work kind of
• 50:08
  Speaker 6: have that in the back of my mind as I'm
• 50:09
  Speaker 6: working to the old marketing stuff. I did a soundtrack
• 50:13
  Speaker 6: for uh Monster Squad once with Mondo and it's death
• 50:19
  Speaker 6: Waltz became Mondo, but it was Mondo and and it
• 50:23
  Speaker 6: was all based on like the old uh you know
• 50:26
  Speaker 6: uh ads in the back of a comic book, and
• 50:29
  Speaker 6: so it was like taking the Monster Squad but putting
• 50:32
  Speaker 6: them in that kind of classified ad world.
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: Of like, well, what could you buy from like the
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: clubhouse like kind.
• 50:39
  Speaker 6: Of my kind of vibe and just kind of made
• 50:43
  Speaker 6: it something unique and interesting. And I try to kind
• 50:46
  Speaker 6: of come up with these little hooks to sort of
• 50:50
  Speaker 6: you know, to sort of like grab onto and and
• 50:54
  Speaker 6: and and you know, what can I do with like
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: this this theme? What can I do with like this
• 50:59
  Speaker 6: uh this object? You know, what's what's this? What's this
• 51:02
  Speaker 6: crazy idea I can shoehorn into this movie?
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you mentioned Herschel Gordon Lewis and his I mean
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: the original work, the black and white ones that you
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: can talk about with the splash of red I love,
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: but I I love once once his distribution started with
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: something weird or like some of the Wizard at Home
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: Video ones where they started like really colorizing them, like
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: the Wizard of Gore poster. I will never forget the
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: red with the like I used to love how they
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: did the titles at the top, and oh my god,
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: I love.
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: Them right now.
• 51:31
  Speaker 6: I'm so inspired by movie titles. Actually do do get
• 51:35
  Speaker 6: to do some sometimes. I've done some movie titles and
• 51:38
  Speaker 6: some credit designs. I would love to do more. I mean,
• 51:41
  Speaker 6: you know, I would love to like animate an intro.
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: For a cool series, you know, or yeah, or or
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: like you know, sort of handle the design on some
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: of that stuff. Who knows.
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: I mean I've done I've done a lot of really
• 51:55
  Speaker 6: cool like movie titles that have. You know, I love
• 51:59
  Speaker 6: doing hand and type, you know, I love doing all that.
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: It's all.
• 52:02
  Speaker 6: It all comes from those those old posters, like those
• 52:05
  Speaker 6: old those old adverts and those old marketing materials. You know,
• 52:10
  Speaker 6: they weren't even considered art back then, you know, they
• 52:13
  Speaker 6: you know, they weren't. They were just like you You
• 52:15
  Speaker 6: never knew who drew them, You never knew where they
• 52:18
  Speaker 6: were done. They were just like they would appear and
• 52:20
  Speaker 6: be thrown in the garbage when the movies were done.
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: They're run right.
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: And but now it's like, as you know, people appreciate
• 52:31
  Speaker 6: that mat now more than ever.
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: Now now poster artists are being recognized for their work.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: And well, who was it, I don't know if it
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: was Drews, Drew Zander, who was it that started hiding
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: the signature in the art work.
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: I think it was John Alvin.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: John Alvin right started like hiding like tucking it in places.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: You had to find it.
• 52:50
  Speaker 6: You had to find it and I always thought that
• 52:52
  Speaker 6: was clever, right, Like, you know, it's like I'm gonna
• 52:54
  Speaker 6: get in there and I'm gonna hide my signature on
• 52:57
  Speaker 6: this thing.
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but do you like that?
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: It was that?
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: What was that?
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: It was that documentary that came out about posters. It
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: was what was it called not two.
• 53:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, twenty four x thirty six? Absolutely, yeah. My friend
• 53:11
  Speaker 6: Kevin Burke directed.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: It, and yeah, that was an incredible document I had
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: never never heard of it. I stumbled across it, like
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: I think on like two B and H blitz through
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: it in a night, and it was incredibly fascinating. I
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: think actually, honestly, I probably bought more posters after watching
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: that documentary than ever before in my life. It kind
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: of kind of unlocked something.
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: It was.
• 53:32
  Speaker 6: It was cool to sort of see him like I was,
• 53:34
  Speaker 6: you know, right there with him as he was making it.
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: You know, we had a booth at Mondo Con and
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: he came down one year and he had to interview
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: the Mono Con guys and we he came down with
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: Nicole and I one year and yeah, we did that
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: and then he got all the interviews he needed in
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: Austin and kind of seeing him put this thing together
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: and being a part of it was amazing. And you
• 53:57
  Speaker 5: know some of my peers are in there too, like
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: Matt Ryan Tobin and Sarah Deck and Creative Justin and Page.
• 54:06
  Speaker 6: You know, they're in there. Jason Emison's in there, Like
• 54:09
  Speaker 6: the whole Canadian crew was in there.
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: And then you know they went down and he talked.
• 54:13
  Speaker 8: To like the big guys in the US, you know,
• 54:16
  Speaker 8: the post artists there, Rob Jones and Mondo and anyway,
• 54:20
  Speaker 8: it was a fun documentary to be a part of
• 54:22
  Speaker 8: because it was sort of like came out around the
• 54:25
  Speaker 8: time when you know, Blu ray covers, you know.
• 54:28
  Speaker 6: Weren't so great, and sort of like I think it was.
• 54:33
  Speaker 6: I think the spirit of that movie was, Yes, it
• 54:36
  Speaker 6: was about silkscreen posters and alternative movie posters, but I
• 54:41
  Speaker 6: also think that that mini boom was also an answer
• 54:44
  Speaker 6: to the really terrible floating head artwork that was coming
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: out of really bad amateur photoshop jobs that were becoming posters.
• 54:54
  Speaker 6: And you know, I think I think that movie sort
• 54:59
  Speaker 6: of was also a mini commentary on that as well,
• 55:02
  Speaker 6: and that you know, you can have better, You can
• 55:06
  Speaker 6: even if it has even has to be a photograph,
• 55:08
  Speaker 6: you can still be better if you look at like,
• 55:10
  Speaker 6: you know, Dustin Hoffman's you know, dog Day Night posters,
• 55:14
  Speaker 6: you know those seventies photograph posters are incredible, right so.
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well it's like and I do a series
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: on my Instagram through like reels called the Art of
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: Physical Media, And the other day I did one on
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: because I think it's like one of my favorite pieces
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: that come out alone time on Matt Ryan's X trilogy
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: that he did for the novelizations. Yes, yeah, with the
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: book absolutely incredible, Like the artwork on those are phenomenal,
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: and to think that they're just on these little mass
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: market paperbacks, like, yeah, I was staring at them one
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: day and I'm like, these are like I'm literally holding
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: works of art. Like the detail is incredible, The cohesion
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: between the three books is stunning. Yeah, yeah, like that's
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: and it's cool for a company like A twenty four
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: to hire somebody to do for this little, tiny like
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: book that fits in my back pocket. You know, It's
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: it's incredible to see and we have to we have
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: to find ways, you know, through social media, to continue
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: talking about this stuff and showing it off the best
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: we can. Because I got messages from people, right when
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: that video went live, that were like, dude, I've never
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: seen these. I just went on Barnes and Noble and
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: Bottom like it's people are still discovering them.
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: No, that's great. Yeah, I know, you know that's good.
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: You know, I mean, it's I was happy to see
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: that too. You know.
• 56:33
  Speaker 6: It's it's really cool that you know, we get to
• 56:37
  Speaker 6: do some of these really cool projects, and you know,
• 56:39
  Speaker 6: we get to work with like these publishers that you know,
• 56:43
  Speaker 6: your artwork's getting out there, like those books are everywhere. Right,
• 56:47
  Speaker 6: it's great to see, you know, it's it's that's what,
• 56:51
  Speaker 6: that's what, That's what.
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: My goal is.
• 56:52
  Speaker 6: I guess my goal is to to get my artwork
• 56:54
  Speaker 6: in front of as many horror fans as I can.
• 56:56
  Speaker 6: And that's kind of the the mantra that I've been
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: kind of and you know, yeah, since I started doing freelance,
• 57:05
  Speaker 6: and it was like, you know, I just want to
• 57:07
  Speaker 6: keep keep getting my artwork in front of as many
• 57:10
  Speaker 6: horror fans as I can.
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: That's really all. That's really all I can do.
• 57:13
  Speaker 6: And I love doing it, and I love doing conventions, and.
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: You know, it's just been kind of part of part
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: of what I do and I love it. Well, I was.
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: I was gonna mention speaking, I know we were touching
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: on horror in Canada, but you also did the piece
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: for In a Violent.
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: Nature correct, Yes, yeah, yeah again a really cool Canadian
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: Canadian movie.
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: Oh big fan.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we covered that movie on here. I think we've
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: done what two episodes with the kind of like a
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: round and of on the nature, right, Steve, Yeah.
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I love that story behind that was I So
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: I did that piece of art work with made.
• 57:59
  Speaker 6: By Mutant, which was like some of the old Mondo
• 58:02
  Speaker 6: directors that started Mutant, and you know, I was like.
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: Hey there, I I was you know, asked them if
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: I could do it, basically because I said, hey, look
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: I'm Canadian. I know the filmmaker Chris Nash. Chris Nash story.
• 58:18
  Speaker 6: Uh, he did some short films way back in like
• 58:23
  Speaker 6: the magazine days that I thought were amazing and always
• 58:26
  Speaker 6: kind of like, you know, would see him around and
• 58:28
  Speaker 6: then he's doing this slasher and it's like holy shit,
• 58:30
  Speaker 6: you know, like some of my other friends too, and
• 58:33
  Speaker 6: your producer there, and just to see them like you know,
• 58:37
  Speaker 6: at film festivals and now they've got like this amazing movie.
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: It just felt like it came out of nowhere for
• 58:43
  Speaker 6: me because I talked to them in a little while,
• 58:46
  Speaker 6: and then I really kind of fought to do that
• 58:49
  Speaker 6: poster because I just really wanted to to do it
• 58:53
  Speaker 6: to support the Canadian horror films and and and support
• 58:58
  Speaker 6: my friends, and and I just kind of like thought that,
• 59:02
  Speaker 6: you know, what they were doing was something totally unique
• 59:04
  Speaker 6: that no other horror film is done, and it's been
• 59:07
  Speaker 6: a pretty divisive horror film, you know.
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: So which I love.
• 59:12
  Speaker 6: I think I think horror movie should be divisive, and
• 59:15
  Speaker 6: so you know, absolutely wanted to do that. And so yeah,
• 59:20
  Speaker 6: became the Steel book cover, which is great, and then
• 59:22
  Speaker 6: we did a screenprint and we did a very secret
• 59:26
  Speaker 6: poster with Shutter too. It's kind of looks like the
• 59:30
  Speaker 6: Frive thirteenth Part two one sheet where it's just the
• 59:32
  Speaker 6: type and so there's a third variant out there too
• 59:36
  Speaker 6: that we did and we did it just for the
• 59:39
  Speaker 6: Shutter employees.
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: So that was kind of fun. And so I always
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: make sure to bring some of those with me when
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: I'm at shows because you know, there's there's actually a
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: lot of fans that I meet for that movie. For
• 59:51
  Speaker 5: in a Violent Nature, Actually.
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: No, I was you canna say we had. We interviewed
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: Lauren Marie Taylor, and I think both of us were
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: like chomping into bits to get to where we could
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: talk about environment nature. It was more than Thirteenth Part two,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: you know, yeah.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 6: Of course, of course, yeah, yeah, right, So, I mean,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 6: I don't know, I can't wait to see the sequel,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 6: you know, I know that's.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 5: Very excited right now. Yeah, it's it's great, you know.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 6: So that was again another another fun project that I
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 6: got to contribute to.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm not gonna lie. I had to buy the
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: movie twice because I initially got a Blu ray and
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: then I saw that the four case steel book had
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: your art on it. I was like, I got to
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: add that to the collection. It's just, you know, I
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: feel like that captures the essence of this movie.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: Oh, thanks so much. I appreciate it. That's awesome. Yeah,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: I I hope to maybe do a poster for the sequel.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 5: I guess I'm if anyone's listening, I'd love to do
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: a poster for the sequel.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: Very excited for that was I was gonna ask. So,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: I mean, with boutique labels or you know, anyone you're
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: collaborating with like how much creative freedom do they give
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: you or does it kind of vary by project?
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 6: Then it it can depend I mean it does depend
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 6: on the project. Sometimes if if I'm hired by, say
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 6: a marketing team, they usually have something in mind that
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 6: they want, if it's say, like for an alternative movie,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 6: print for an older movie, licensers or whatever. They'll come
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 6: to me and just kind of let me do my
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 6: thing and I'll present ideas, and that's you know nice.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 6: I like to kind of just with older movies especially,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 6: you know, kind of reinterpret them somehow, and so that's
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 6: always fun. Sometimes they'll have a suggestion that they want
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 6: to see for sure. You know, it really does depend
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 6: on the project. Other times, you know, uh, it's yeah,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 6: show us what you've gotten. I'll just I'll show six
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 6: four to six ideas, three to six ideas. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 6: I try to. I try to, like, you know, just
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 6: sort of show a variety of directions so that I'm
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 6: covering my bases and and and and sometimes it is
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 6: a bit of a mind reading trick. You have to
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 6: sort of know your clients and what they're looking for
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 6: and what kind of type of artwork they want or
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 6: sometimes you have to sort of like a chameleon sometimes
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 6: like cop a style, like sometimes they want it to
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 6: look like a stile a certain era.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: They want. They want something to look like a seventies
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: poster looks different than an eighties poster, that type of thing,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: you know, So you have to kind of I I
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: feel like I have to be able to adapt to
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: a lot of different styles sometimes to to get my
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: thing across.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: Well, you guys, do you like I know you do
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: a lot of the freelance stuff, But how much how much,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: like let's say, in like a monthly basis, are you
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: doing just on your own?
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 5: You know?
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: Just Hey, I'm going to sit down and you know,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: I have an idea for an alternate, you know, poster
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: for this. Are you doing a lot of that?
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 6: I do a little bit of a I do very
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 6: little of that, but I do sometimes because I I
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 6: gotta be honest, Like, I don't idle.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 5: I'm always I I don't like to sit around. I
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 5: if I'm if I'm.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 6: Waiting in between approvals, I'll start up printing for myself
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 6: for sure, because I have conventions that you know, I
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 6: do and I need to pay for and I have
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 6: you know, stuff that I want to do. We you know,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 6: so if I've always word I'm always working in between
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 6: freelance work, I'm always working always.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: You have to, you have to.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's like I've always considered myself like
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: a creative person, whether it's through writing or through videography
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: or photography. And you know, now it's kind of like, uh,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: gotten to the point where I do kind of feel
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: like social media is a little bit of a like
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: a job and I have to do part of it. Yeah,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: And there's there's so much too that I that I
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: am constantly playing without side of whatever you know it's
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: happening on social media because I I it's almost like
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you've ever seen James Gunn Suicide
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: Squad with Polka Dot Man where he just gets so
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: pent up then he's got to blow the Poka dots out.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: It's kind of like that, like like once a day,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: I have to do something creative that's not for anything.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: It's just me hmm doing something.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: And it can be tough to like, you know, have
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: the energy for that some days, right, and but you know.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 6: You just got to keep to me. It is like,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 6: you know, like freelance. No matter what type of freelance
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 6: you're doing, if you're working for yourself, it's a hustle.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 6: It's a it's a daily hustle. And and you're always
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 6: working towards just working towards something bigger than what you're
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 6: doing yesterday. Right, You're just working towards something you know,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 6: you know, hopefully bigger and better.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: And and and and and.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 6: And I just try to stay focused on the job
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 6: that I have at hand. And and I have some
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 6: ideas that I want to get too as well. I
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 6: can't wait to get to this idea that I have
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 6: in my head.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: And then if I have a lull in between freelance,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: I'll fire that idea and uh, I'll get that done
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: for something, you know.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you had to, Steve, I know you have
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: a question, but I have to ask this real quick.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: If you had absolute freedom to do like a hardcover
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: deluxe artwork for any king material, which could you choose?
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 5: Oh? You know what?
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 6: I I loved pet cemetery. Yeah, I loved pet cemetery.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 6: When I grew up, that one, that one messed me up.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 5: I also really liked that. I also really liked the
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: shining as well, that was another book that I really
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 5: I thought was scarier than the movie. Mm hm, I
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 5: felt the book was scarier than I love the movie.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 5: I'm not not in the movie, and uh, you know
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: we know that even King wasn't a fan of Kuberg's movie.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I felt like scenes the the room two
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 5: three seven scene, which I think is two seventeen in
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: the book. Yeah, terrifying, way more scared, way way more
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: scary in the book.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 6: Like I I remember, I was pretty young when I
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 6: read it, and uh, like thirteen fourteen, you know, you
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 6: start to get into like, you know, maybe a little older,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 6: but like, I just remember not being able to go
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 6: to sleep that night after reading that chapter A career
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 6: in the bathtub and shit.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: I didn't want to go to the washroom. I didn't
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 5: want to go to the washing bathtub.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: Oh nightmare.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 5: It was totally nightmare. Fuel and his books is when
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 5: I was, you know, when I was consuming all this
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 5: stuff and still am I was. I was loving it
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: like I wanted.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 6: I wanted that thriller being scared, I want like I
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 6: loved HP love Craft too.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: I was reading into stuff. I was reading a little
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 5: bit of po Uh, I was reading a little, a
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 5: couple of Coon's books.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 6: I read a couple of Kot's books. But my my,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 6: my mom was a big reader and she was reading
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 6: Stephen King and she would, you know, have all these
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 6: books in the house. And the Stephen King once jumped
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 6: right out of me because of the covers.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: And those covers, I will also say, inspired me as
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: much as a VHS movie cover would. Oh, I'm dripping.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 6: Around the VHS stiles and I'm looking at all this stuff.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 6: And then I'm going to the record stores and I'm
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 6: looking at all the Maiden covers and all that great artwork,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 6: and you know, and then I'm reading cool book covers
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 6: like I'm reading book you know these book covers, like
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 6: you know, the Shining one really jumped out of me.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 6: It's a graphic design one. It's just really simple. It's
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 6: a little it's all black and gray and it's just
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 6: it's just Danny's head. It's just really super graphic.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 5: I don't know if you've seen it, it's like, yeah,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 5: it's if I were to design that, it might just
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 5: take It looks like it took someone five minutes, but
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: it didn't. But it looks so simple, but it's so
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 5: eerie and cool that I think that's that's the kind
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 5: of stuff I hang my hat on. I love that
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 5: kind of design.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: That was the paperback one, right, Yes, the we have that,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: and then I also have I think my wife and
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: I also have an addition of John Russo's Night of
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: the Living Dead that's sort of that same effect. It's
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: a black cover and it has the little girl in
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: the front with like it almost like a silver foil.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 5: Sure over, yeah, look at that. It could be inspired
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 5: by that cover, right.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: I think it's very hard. Oh okay, so it's not
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: exactly the same, but it's uh kind of got like this.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 5: Oh I've seen that. Yeah, that's that's yeah, not.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: Not as not as plain as the shining one. But
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: I remember looking at this and kind of getting the
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: same mm hmm from it, you know.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: And and you know when we were doing those Stephen
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: King book covers, that's what they when they when they
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: it was random House that found me and the art
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 5: director there, Mark uh Abraham's great, great art director.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 6: You know he does all their titles and he's in
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 6: charge of all their titles right anyway, so.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: You know, they they they contacted me and said we
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: want like an eighties style poster looked to like this
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: new line of his vintage books. Now they only have
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: up until.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 6: The Shining, like they only have up until the Shining, right,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 6: they don't have Kujo or pet Cemetery a whole other
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 6: publisher that homes.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 5: But my goal would be to do those one day,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 6: But luckily I've been working with Random House and I
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 6: got to work on the original books that made him,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 6: you know, the author that he is and the horror
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 6: icon that he is. And those those first five books
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 6: are those are his bangers, right, like those are his
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 6: greatest hits.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: It's gotta be special for sure.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And I I, you know, I I just yeah,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 6: there's times where you're just like wow, I kind of
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 6: look at them and go, I can't believe I did those,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 6: you know, like that was such a you know, and
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 6: and you know, uh, there was a little bit of pressure.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 6: You know, there was a little bit of a little
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 6: bit of pressure. And it's like when you get like
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 6: these big clients like Mad Magazine. I've done a few
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 6: covers for for Mad Magazine and they're based aut l
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 6: A now and they're they're owned by d C Comics,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 6: And this is d C Comics, Right, these are our
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 6: directors that work with d C Comics, and and and
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 6: and you know, so they they they worked with like
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 6: huge artists, big, you know.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: And I just remember the pressure for my first Mad
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 5: Magazine cover was a mets.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 6: I like, wow, I've got to tap into like, uh,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 6: Norman Rockwell, Americana pop culture, pretty Newman pop culture illustration,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 6: fifties illustration style, you know what I mean. Like it was,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 6: you know, I I I painted it in in photoshop
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 6: and you know, on you know, by hand, and uh
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 6: you know, I you know, I did it. But it
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 6: was it was that first cover was a real challenge.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 6: Second one was easier, and third one was easier.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Man magazine, Wow crazy, Yeah, I was gonna, I
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: was gonna.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: Have you ever had like director or filmmaker personally react
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: to one of your pieces before in the past?
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 5: I I have, Yes, Yeah, And uh sometimes it's like
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 5: an email, Okay, Sometimes it's an email.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 6: Sometimes it's in person, like if you're at a convention,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 6: like like I had a Marcus came up and said, I,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 6: you know.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 5: I love this artwork. Yeah, you know, he signed my
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 5: He signed my thing right then and there, and you know,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 5: and then and then but we became in some friends,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 5: right like it's like you know, and so that was
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 5: one occasion. But one one of the one of the
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 5: funniest times, or at least one of the best times
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 5: for anything like that, was I was at Horrorhound weekend
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 5: and I they had a reanimator.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 6: Cast reunion, okay and uh and so Stewart was was
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 6: alive back then. This is around twenty sixteen, maybe I
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 6: want to say it was a few years after the.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 5: Record the Charles Richard banda the Waxwork record came.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 6: Out, and I had, you know whatever I I you know,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 6: I was at had my boot there and I, you know,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 6: I've been doing Horrorhound every year for so long. Anyway,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 6: So I'm there and this guy walks up to me.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 6: He's like, hey, by the way, uh, Jeffrey Combs really
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 6: wants to talk to you. He wants to meet you
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 6: because he loves that artwork that he did for Waxford Records.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 5: And I said, oh, awesome, I.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 6: Got to save one here and then I'll get them
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 6: to sign one, right, And so I was gonna go
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 6: at some point, but you know, you're busy at your booth.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 6: It's hard just to kind of take.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 5: Off at anything totally. All of a sudden, I see
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 5: Jeffrey Combs walking towards me and he's like, you're the guy.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 5: You're the guy, and I'm like, I'm the guy. You're
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 5: the guy that did this artwork. And I was like yes, yes,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 5: and he's like, we love this.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 6: Artwork and I was like, oh, thanks so much, like yeah,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 6: I love the movie and he's like, follow me, and
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 6: I was follow Jeffrey Combs into the next room over.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 5: That's when I dumped my booth. I just dumped it right.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: There, you have to.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 6: And then I, you know, I followed him and he's like, everybody,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 6: this is Gary. He did the poster, he did the
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 6: artwork that we've been signing at the convention, and it
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 6: was Barbara was there and Stuart and Daniel his co star,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 6: you know, the writer was there and they all took
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 6: a photo with me with it and they all signed
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 6: my poster and I couldn't.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: Believe it, Like I was like surreal, that.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 5: Was really surreal.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 6: That Yeah, that was a moment where I was like
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 6: this is why I do this, or at least you know,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 6: that was something that I never would have imagined when
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 6: I was a kid watching Reanimator and your parents are
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 6: upstairs and you're watching your Animator, that I was gonna,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 6: you know, get to meet, you know, anyone to do
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 6: with the film or anything, because back then we're just
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 6: watching the movies. We're just we're not like, oh, we.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 5: Get to go to this convention and you ask them
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 5: a question and I want to know this, and I
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 5: want to know that, and I'm learning the ins and
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 5: outs of all this stuff and I'm I'm learning the
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 5: mechanics behind it. Now. You know, when you're you know.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 6: At that impressionable age, you're just that that that horror
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 6: fan just watching these things for the first time, and
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 6: then you're gonna, if you love it enough, you watch
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 6: it a billion times.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 5: And that feeling doesn't go away. No, not at all,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 5: not not not for some of.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 6: These movies, that feeling doesn't go away. And that's that's
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 6: kind of what keeps me, kind of keeps me going
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 6: some on this stuff.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Steve, I don't know if there's a better place
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: for us to wrap up than with that story.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: Man, that is I think that's it. I don't think
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: you can top that.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, Well, Gary, is there anything I mean, obviously,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: I know you can't talk about a lot of stuff
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: that you're working on, but anything that's been announced or
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: anything that we should be looking forward to from you? Anything?
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 6: Oh man, it's it's it's always everything's so top see
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 6: it right, Like it's like I worked for the Cages
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 6: or something, right, But yeah, No, Like I was trying
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 6: to think before, like what can I What can I?
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 6: Because I it does come up, but it's like, what
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 6: am I working on that I can actually tell somebody?
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 6: You know, everything's just an approval land right now, and
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 6: I'm just waiting and waiting on some some cool announcements.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 6: I can't say that I'm doing more with Terror Vision.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 5: You know. I've been working with those guys a lot.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 5: Got some more soundtrack designs coming out with them Exit
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 5: uh Aero video.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 6: I just finished something with them that like, I just
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 6: love this movie. It's for me an untapped eighties movie
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 6: that uh is it untapped? I don't know, I'm saying,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 6: you know, it's a movie that I I hadn't seen
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 6: it a long time and everyone knows it. It's like
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 6: one of those right under the nose movies that it's
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 6: like Oh yeah, that movie's cool. Yeah, so that I
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 6: got to do the four K for that, and I
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 6: can't wait because it's gonna have, you know, all the
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 6: special features, and you know, I can't.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 5: I can't wait for that. I'm trying to think of
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 5: I can. Actually it's like I'm lying.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: I'm just I'm waiting for the Freddy vrus Chason.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah right right, yeah, just more fucking cool stuff.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 6: You know, I don't know, I'm a great I'm pretty
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 6: lucky to be able to work with some pretty amazing
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 6: companies and and and uh.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 5: And just be like this, this horror fan that likes
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 5: to draw. Oh yeah, yeah, I just kind of love
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 5: doing it.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 4: Hopefully we'll be able to catch you at a convention
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 4: in the near future.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 5: What once you guys you said monster Mania? Is that
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 5: the one you mentioned earlier?
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: So that once you guys too, that's near me here
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: in Jersey, well Jersey, Philip Philly they do one as well.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: And then I think, Steve, you have a couple near you, right.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 4: I go to I have been to Horror how down Cincinnati.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 4: Sometimes, I I'll usually yearly, I'll try to go down
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: to Scarefest on Lexington Kentucky.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 5: Of her Scarefest. Yeah, yes, I.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 4: Feel like you would really dig that. That has gotten
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 4: so big over the last couple of years. So those
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 4: are like the two main ones I'll go to. Unfortunately,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 4: Michigan doesn't have like real big conventions like that, so
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 4: usually I'm willing to go the distance for one if
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 4: it's worth it.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a great thing about the US is that
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 6: there are so many horror conventions. Like I feel like
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 6: every state has one or three, you know, at any time.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 6: And you know, I've in Canada, there's there's a there's
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 6: a couple of cool ones for sure, but just nothing.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 5: Like the US.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 6: Uh Yeah, I just think because a lot of actors
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 6: live in the US and you know, movie you know,
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 6: you know, Canada has a long sorted history of you know,
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 6: like Canadian movies that I'm proud of, but like, you know,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 6: the movie influence definitely has come from the US. So
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 6: I feel like that's why conventions are just more popular
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 6: down there.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 5: But I am going to be doing a couple of
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 5: conventions coming up. There's the mass Mini Con It's in Boston, Massachusetts,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 5: and that is since I think it's like Friday, the
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 5: September eleventh to like the thirteenth, and a horror panel
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 5: which is gonna be a lot of fun. They asked
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 5: me to do a panel, and it's gonna be with
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 5: my friend Sarah Deck, who's an amazing horror illustrator movie
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 5: poster artist. You should check her out. And Steven and Andraid.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 5: He's another amazing horror inspired artist that does like alternative
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 5: movie poster style stuff and a lot of verry. He's
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 5: got a really great culpi kind of feel. Again, there's
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 5: two amazing artists that I get to go on stage
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 5: with them talk about poor art with And that's gonna
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 5: be at Maas Mini Con, so you know that's gonna
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 5: be something fun.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 6: And then I'm gonna be in Winnipeg, Canada for Winnipeg
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 6: Comic Con and they always have a couple of cool
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 6: horror guests there. They've got like a They've got like
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 6: Michael Ironside there and they're.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 5: Doing like a They've got Jake Bucy and they're doing
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 5: like a Starship Troopers thing. I got a scary space
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 5: theme and but I work with those guys and do
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 5: some artwork with those guys.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 6: So and they've been you know, bringing me into shows
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 6: too in Canada, like they I went to Montreal Montreal
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 6: Comic Con with them and bringing me in as a guest,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 6: which is nice because I don't seem to do a
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 6: lot of conventions up in Canada and I'm trying to
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 6: do more so and they've been great to work.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm hoping we can get out to more.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: I mean the show over the last two years we've
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: been doing this has been growing and we are part
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: of the Someone's Favorite Productions podcast network who I'm not
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: sure if you follow Disconnected he does like a now
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: physical media announcement stuff. He's one of the owners of
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: Antenna Releasing. Now they're opening in partnership with def Crocodile,
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: a physical media store and microcinema in Missouri. So we're
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: hoping to get out there sometimes, you know, it's exciting
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: get out a little bit more and try to Monster
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: Mania is literally like I could. It takes me five
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: minutes to walk to the venue.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 5: It's at here in Jersey, right in your backyard. Yeah,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 5: it's beautiful. So I mean, I go ahead, and.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, we're hoping to get out more
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 3: and over the next couple of years, do a lot
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: more of that.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, there's there's ones I would like to hit up,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 6: like right now, the ones that kind of I've always
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 6: sort of stuck with or at least.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 5: Are on the radar right now.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 6: I'm doing Monster Palooza again next year. Uh Texas fright Mare.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 6: I always do every year. They've been amazing, and so
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 6: is Monster Lose It too. Like all these conventions, like
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 6: they just all incredible, you know, organizations and companies and
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 6: people and families.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 5: You know, like yeah, and you know.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 6: Uh so I get to I get to set up
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 6: and do my thing, you know. Yeah, those two are
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 6: always on my radar. Horror on Weekend is in March. Yeah,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 6: it's always a blast. I try to do that one,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 6: and uh, you know there's always one. This Mass Mini
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 6: con is great too. You know, it's more dialed into
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 6: like the poster uh scene. It's not a horror convention.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 6: It's like pop culture and physical media. But it's like
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 6: more like the old Mondo con. It's like a movie
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 6: poster convention more or less. It's opened up to other things.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 5: Uh but you know, uh, but again physical media and artwork, right,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: like you know, hand hand drawn artwork. Yeah, you know, yeah,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 5: so that kind of thing. So, but yeah, I mean
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 5: there's there's always so so many cons I want to try,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 5: you know, there's there's there's a lot in the States
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 5: especially that i'd like to check out.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well the.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 5: One you mentioned, there's Monster Mania's always on the kind
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 5: of kind of on the list to maybe check that
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 5: one out one days.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: A lot of fun.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so much fun. But I'll make sure they
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: have links blow to your website to obviously your platforms
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: as well, so that'll all be down below. I'm trying
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: to think of what else is uh, what else is
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: going on with us? We have Steve, what do we
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: have going on? We're doing? Uh yeah, yeah, we're gonna
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: talk about that from Celluloid Dreams. We're gonna be diving
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: into both of those commentary tracks for next week's episode.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: And it's it's a movie that I'm I've watched I
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: think twice in the last week, and I have I
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: have some notes. So love that movie to death, but
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: it's like one of those movies that I'm so fascinated with.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: I need to organize my thoughts more than I usually
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: do to make sure I sound cohesive and understandable.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 5: To be honest, I haven't seen it, but it sounds
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 5: like a gallo. Yeah? Is it? Is it? Our gento?
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 5: Is it?
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 5: Ba? Who did it? No?
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: It's what's his name? Uh? He did night Train murders?
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: And why am I blinking on the name?
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah? Okay?
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: You ever see you ever watch the Nightmares and Dreamscapes
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: show on T n T back in the day for
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: the Stephen King short stories.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 6: I don't know if we I don't know, okay, just
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 6: being in Canada, I don't know if, like, uh, we
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 6: probably got it.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: But he One of the stories that they that they
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: did for that TV show was a story called Autopsy,
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: and it's a story of a guy who's bit by
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 3: a snake on a golf course and the venom from
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: the snake lowers his blood pressure and his pulse to
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: a point where they think he's dead. And the entire
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: time we're hearing this inner monologue where he's basically about
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: to be cut open for an autopsy, and things keep
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  Speaker 3: happening to distract and along the autopsy and I think
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  Speaker 3: short Night of Glass Dolls is very much was very
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  Speaker 3: much on the mind of somebody when constructing that story
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  Speaker 3: because it has an incredibly similar presence running through it.
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  Speaker 3: That's way too identical to be strictly coincidence, I think, so.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah right, yeah, a lot of these new movies they
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  Speaker 5: pull from old especially the old Italian there's still a
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  Speaker 5: scare from like shock or something right.
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  Speaker 4: Like yeah, yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 5: M but hey, you know it's uh imitation is the
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  Speaker 5: what is it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, Well, Gary, thank you so much for your time.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you so much for hanging out with us. Man.
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  Speaker 3: We're we're a huge fans of what you do. And uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, hopefully in the next couple of years we'll
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  Speaker 3: get you on again and we'll be talking about some
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  Speaker 3: more artwork you know that you got.
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  Speaker 5: I appreciate it. Yeah, thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 6: And yeah, hopefully we'll see you guys on the morsh.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, of course. All right, guys, we'll hear you.
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  Speaker 3: We'll catch you on the next episode.
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