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Full Show Podcast: 16 April 2026 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
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Speaker 1: early edition with Spark for business technology that keeps business
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Speaker 1: moving news talks.
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Speaker 2: That'd be good.
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Speaker 3: Morning at Thursday. Great to have your company six after
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Speaker 3: five you can do more at the pharmacy, less at
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Speaker 3: the doctor will look at that before six. Mitch McCann
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Speaker 3: state side. For us, we've got our first billion dollar apple.
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Speaker 3: Why future fuel shipments are being kept secret from us?
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Speaker 3: And like a drunk wanting more booze, the IRD wants
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Speaker 3: more tax. The agenda Thursday to sixteen to April. Run's
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Speaker 3: getting a bit touchy with the blockade. They're saying, if
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Speaker 3: you keep doing this, we will block ships in the Golf,
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Speaker 3: in the Red Sea and in the Gulf of Amman.
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Speaker 3: So when's this thing over?
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Speaker 1: Trump?
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Speaker 4: Well, you keep saying, wise, is this war over?
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Speaker 5: I think it's close to over here. I mean I
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Speaker 5: view it as very close to over. You know what,
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Speaker 5: if I pulled up stakes right now, it would take
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Speaker 5: them twenty years to rebuild that country. And we're not finished.
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Speaker 3: Now. He's threatening to rip up the trade deal. You know,
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Speaker 3: he just signed this trade deal between the US and
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Speaker 3: the UK. Allys visual relationship. That one is now saying
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Speaker 3: I'll rip it up because you didn't help us out.
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Speaker 6: It's the relationship where when we asked them for help,
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Speaker 6: they were not there when we needed them. They were
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Speaker 6: not there when we didn't need them. They were not
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Speaker 6: there and they still aren't there. Sounds like it's very
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Speaker 6: bad in that case. I put it to him and
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Speaker 6: with that he had a threat. Well, it's been better,
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Speaker 6: but it's sad, and we gave them a good trade
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Speaker 6: deal better than I had to, which can always be changed.
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Speaker 3: I mean, these are just tweets. You've got to ignore
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Speaker 3: them at some point, don't you. A bit of an
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Speaker 3: uproar though. In PMQ's in the UK.
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Speaker 7: To speaker in a phone call with sky News last
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Speaker 7: night preasident, Trump has threatened to rip up his trade
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Speaker 7: deal with the UK as punishment for US not joining
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Speaker 7: his idiotic war in Iran. The speaker, this must be
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Speaker 7: the last rule. Surely the Prime Minister can't send al
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Speaker 7: Qi to meet a man who treats our country like
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Speaker 7: a mafia boss running a protection racking.
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Speaker 3: Yes, so the King is going there. More on that, surely,
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Speaker 3: here's Starmer's reaction.
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Speaker 7: Not going to change my mind.
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Speaker 6: I'm not going to yield.
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Speaker 7: It's not in our national interest to join the floor
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Speaker 7: and we will not do so.
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Speaker 3: I know where I stand. Finally, this morning, and speaking
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Speaker 3: of royal tourst Megan Markel is going to appear as
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Speaker 3: a guest judge on the new season of Mastership Australia.
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Speaker 3: This is feathering her nest with the commercial deals while
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Speaker 3: they're on a visit to the lucky country.
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Speaker 8: Please welcome to Mastershof Australia.
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Speaker 6: The duchess are Sussex.
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Speaker 3: For Meghan, then you have to hit the applause button
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Speaker 3: quite hard for that one, don't you. According to the
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Speaker 3: network ten, Meghan filmed the episode in Melbourne on Wednesday.
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Speaker 3: Shows eighteenth season are set to air this weekend.
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Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day Early
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Speaker 1: Edition with Ryan Bridge and Spark for Business Technology that
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Speaker 1: keeps Business Moving News Talk z'b.
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Speaker 3: Fine is nine after five nine two nine two is
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Speaker 3: the number to text. Would love to hear from you
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Speaker 3: this morning as always. Now, I told you that Karne
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Speaker 3: would get a majority in the House of Commons and
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Speaker 3: he got it because of the by elections. One of
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Speaker 3: the more popular leaders in the world right now, you
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Speaker 3: would have to say, in fact, probably one of the
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Speaker 3: only popular leaders of a democracy in the world right now.
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Speaker 3: Nothing stops the Carney train, and one of his first
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Speaker 3: things he's done is gone and cut the fuel tax
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Speaker 3: there because of the war in Iran.
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Speaker 9: To be clear, today's cut to the fuel axize tax
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Speaker 9: is a responsible, temporary measure, consistent with what it takes
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Speaker 9: to build a stronger economy.
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Speaker 3: All singing from the same song sheet. Really, same as
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Speaker 3: Nicola willis, same as the way that what's his name,
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Speaker 3: Albanize he's been framing his in Australia. Carney's is three
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Speaker 3: billion bucks and the Conservatives there were actually saying cut more,
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Speaker 3: cut harder, go further until the end of the year,
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Speaker 3: and he said, no, it's the timely temporary thing. So
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Speaker 3: he's keeping five percent GST on there. It's only going
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Speaker 3: to last five months. But what's really interesting, and this
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Speaker 3: is a message to lay in New Zealand I reckon,
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Speaker 3: is you've got Carne coming out and saying that the
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Speaker 3: government is going to now invest in infrastructure specifically to
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Speaker 3: boost oil and gas production. Now, why would you do
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Speaker 3: something like that when we've got a climate crisis. It's
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Speaker 3: because you're protecting your domestic audience, right, you're protecting your
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Speaker 3: domestic citizens and consumers. So that's what he's doing. He
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Speaker 3: is literally going out there and throwing money at oil
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Speaker 3: and gas production. And as I told you earlier in
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Speaker 3: the week, Albanese is doing the same. He is trying
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Speaker 3: to pump up oil and gas production because they need
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Speaker 3: more for demits and they don't want to run around
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Speaker 3: the world cap in hand as Albanese is having to
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Speaker 3: do now. So they're all singing from the same song
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Speaker 3: sheet Starmer, different kettle of fish, you know. Trump's saying,
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Speaker 3: go to the North Sea and drill, baby, drill and
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Speaker 3: starm is a different kettle of fish. But look at Carne,
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Speaker 3: look at Albanesi, and then look at Pipkins. Why is
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Speaker 3: he the old one out? Ryan Bridge, time is eleven
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Speaker 3: after five. Next they want more tax, of course they
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Speaker 3: do from us hard working Kiwis. We'll get them to
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Speaker 3: justify that.
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Speaker 1: Next on your radio and online on iheard Radio Belly
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Speaker 1: Edition with Ryan Bridge and Spark for Business Technology that
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Speaker 1: keeps business moving News Talk z'b five thirteen.
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Speaker 3: Good morning to you, Auckland. The population of the city
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Speaker 3: has doubled since the early nineteen eighties, now one point
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Speaker 3: eight two million people, and they reckon that'll hit two
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Speaker 3: million by twenty thirty three. There's a new numbers out
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Speaker 3: yesterday from stats n Z, So within seven years we'll
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Speaker 3: have two million people. All things going to plan. Now,
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Speaker 3: forty two percent of auckland Is are now born offshore.
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Speaker 3: Auckland is like a funnel to the provinces because basically
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Speaker 3: people come in here from offshore settle in Auckland and
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Speaker 3: then every year a lot of people move out of
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Speaker 3: Auckland and go to the provinces. So it's the sort
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Speaker 3: of grow, disperse and replace really is what it is.
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Speaker 3: And they come large from India and China, unless you're
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Speaker 3: a rich American Trump Hazer, and then you go straight
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Speaker 3: to Queenstown, Bryan Bridge. Inland Revenue reckons we're not paying
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Speaker 3: enough tax. Well, actually Treasury reckons we're not paying enough tax.
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Speaker 3: And then Inland Revenue has set out some ways that
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Speaker 3: we might get more of it, floating higher GST in
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Speaker 3: capital gains tax. This is their latest long term insights briefing.
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Speaker 3: Jeff Nightingale, independent tax expert, with me this morning.
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Speaker 10: Hey Jeff, good morning Ryan.
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Speaker 3: How much more tax are they going to take us
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Speaker 3: off us?
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Speaker 10: Potentially a lot.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 10: I mean what Inland Revenue is doing to set out
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Speaker 10: options to raise higher tax revenues in the future, it's
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Speaker 10: not necessarily recommending them. It's just saying, if you need
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Speaker 10: more tax revenue, this is what you might do. But
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Speaker 10: it's doing that in the face of our long term
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Speaker 10: fiscal forecasts, which is structural deficits. The government's spending more
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Speaker 10: money than it's actually raising and so that's that's the
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Speaker 10: thing that's responding.
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Speaker 3: To, how what can we not cut our way out
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Speaker 3: of this problem?
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Speaker 10: Yes we can. Yeah. So if a government stands more
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Speaker 10: than it takes in and revenue, it's got a deficit.
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Speaker 10: And that deficit can only be filled in three ways really,
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Speaker 10: and there's only three tools you can borrow, which is
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Speaker 10: what we're doing at the moment, and that, of course
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Speaker 10: is not sustainable. We end up with huge debt. You
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Speaker 10: can cut expenditure or you can raise taxes. Al most
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Speaker 10: likely you need a combination of two of those things,
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Speaker 10: cutting extendits and raising taxes and inland revenues. Looking at
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Speaker 10: the raising taxes side of that equations.
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Speaker 3: It's interesting when they look at the income tax rate.
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Speaker 3: You know that top income tax rate thirty nine percent,
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Speaker 3: and then you've got your company tax rate, which is
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Speaker 3: twenty eight percent, and you've got people who are funneling
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Speaker 3: what should be personal income into a company because you
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Speaker 3: get the lower rate. But you can't really avoid that,
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Speaker 3: can you.
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Speaker 10: No, that is a phenomenon, and there's an even greater
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Speaker 10: phenomenon that they point out, and perhaps that's people funneling
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Speaker 10: income or converting income into tax capital gains. So going
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Speaker 10: from thirty nine to effectively zero, but that's a very
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Speaker 10: hard thing to solve unless you've got a flat tax
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Speaker 10: rate and unless you use a pretty high number, the
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Speaker 10: flat tax rate doesn't raise enough revenue.
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Speaker 3: So what would what would it need to be Jeff
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Speaker 3: if we did go with that stream of a flat
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Speaker 3: tax rate?
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean with a flat tax rate, what you
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Speaker 10: do is reduce the top personal rate and you increase
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Speaker 10: other rates, and it probably needs to be about thirty
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Speaker 10: thirty five percent. And the problem with a company tax
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Speaker 10: rate at that level is we rapidly become competitive internationally
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Speaker 10: and so that turns off international investments. So these are
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Speaker 10: the things that everyone's in, everyone's trying to balance. They
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Speaker 10: do acknowledge and their insights. We we think that you know,
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Speaker 10: all taxes impose the cost on economies when you raise them,
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Speaker 10: so simply raising more taxes as damaging to economic growth,
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Speaker 10: and so they do acknowledge that trade off.
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Speaker 3: Nightingale Tax expert Independent tax expert Good Tavy on the
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Speaker 3: show as always. By the way, so our company tax
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Speaker 3: rate twenty eight percent. The OECD average is twenty four.
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Speaker 3: So that's why you can't do I mean, if you
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Speaker 3: had a flat tax rate at thirty something, you would
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Speaker 3: be one of the least competitive business environments in the
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Speaker 3: entire world. Seventeen after five.
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Speaker 1: News and Views You Trust to start your day. It's
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Speaker 1: early edition with Ryan Bridge and Spark for business Technology
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Speaker 1: that keeps the business moving.
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Speaker 3: Hus Talks they'd be whose talks they'd be Nineteen after five.
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Speaker 3: It's interesting what's happening with the fuel stocks because the
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Speaker 3: government's running essentially a high trust model where they're saying,
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Speaker 3: don't worry trust us. We've got confidential private company information
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Speaker 3: that gives us confidence that we're not going to run
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Speaker 3: out of this stuff. And actually, if you look at
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Speaker 3: the petrol pumps, people aren't freaking out and filling up
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Speaker 3: jerry cans like they are of in Australia, so actually
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Speaker 3: they must trust the government also.
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Speaker 11: Really reassured and confident because we have our fuel importers
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Speaker 11: can provid giding us with our sense of commercial information
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Speaker 11: that gives us confidence that those orders are confirmed outstand
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Speaker 11: of May and then planned quite well into show.
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Speaker 3: So basically we're being told about the next three weeks
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Speaker 3: beyond that, your forward shipping schedules. The companies, your z's,
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Speaker 3: your mobiles, they want to keep that information private and
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Speaker 3: the government has agreed to do so that's why we're
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Speaker 3: not being told about it, right and bread Rich Another
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Speaker 3: Kivy business success story for you this morning. The Envy
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Speaker 3: Apple has cracked a billion dollars in global sales, a
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Speaker 3: first for a New Zealand Apple brand, humble beginnings in
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Speaker 3: the eighties, now ground in thirteen countries, sold in more
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Speaker 3: than fifty markets. Shane Kingston, Turners and Growers Apples managing
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Speaker 3: director with us this morning. Get a Shane, good morning, Ryan,
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Speaker 3: Good to have you on the show. So you tell
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Speaker 3: us what it tastes.
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Speaker 12: Like in these un parallels, So due for looking up
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Speaker 12: but then really really strong fresher role mar and then
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Speaker 12: to buy. It's got to balance sweetness and a really
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Speaker 12: satisfying crunch, so it's quite again sample so it's quite
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Speaker 12: fulfilling to eat as well, so really quite unparalleled as
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Speaker 12: an apple.
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Speaker 3: How was it breed?
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Speaker 12: Yeah, so was developed by the Bioeconomy science since two
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Speaker 12: back in nineteen eighty five. It is a cross between
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Speaker 12: Bravern and Royal Gala and it was really developed with
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Speaker 12: the intent of meeting and unnet consumer need globally at
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Speaker 12: that point in time, but also to have attributes which
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Speaker 12: enabled it to be grown in a variety of different
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Speaker 12: conditions globally. So from the outset the intent was really
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Speaker 12: ambitious and then overtime tng in the commercialized and we've
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Speaker 12: developed a very strong into end global system which we
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Speaker 12: participate in but many others do, which then drives real
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Speaker 12: consistency of how we bring that apple to the world,
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Speaker 12: as like you said in your intro, from thirteen growing
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Speaker 12: regions to fifty five markets and there's a very consistent
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Speaker 12: attribut driven system that supports.
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Speaker 3: That who loves it shan.
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Speaker 12: Everybody actually, So when we look at our consumer profile
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Speaker 12: across the world and we get some really rich data
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Speaker 12: on this, we see everyone from kids right the way
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Speaker 12: through to elderly folks. So again it's an apple that
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Speaker 12: it's taste profile is very you know, it's got broad reach.
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Speaker 12: But also as an apple, it's a satisfying eat given
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Speaker 12: its size, et cetera. So it's got a wild wide reach.
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Speaker 12: Give you an example in North America. Over the last
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Speaker 12: two years, we've grown our household penetration, so one hundred
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Speaker 12: and thirty two million households in North America. We've grown
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Speaker 12: from just under ten percent to almost fourteen percent. And
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Speaker 12: that's a broad prospectrum of shoppers and profile and shopper
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Speaker 12: profiles that are that are participating in that.
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Speaker 3: Of the one billion, what proportion is grown offshore?
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Speaker 12: About seventy percent now, so New Zealand accunts for thirty
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Speaker 12: thirty one percent of our global crop, so seventy percent
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Speaker 12: is grown offshore. The majority of that is split between
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Speaker 12: North America and Europe.
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Speaker 3: Who grows how do we How do local growers benefit
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Speaker 3: from that or do we not?
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Speaker 12: Oh? Absolutely, so We've got over a hundred growers here
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Speaker 12: in New Zealand. We as TMNG, are one of those. Look,
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Speaker 12: the biggest benefit for growers globally, but particularly here in
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Speaker 12: New Zealand, the returns that they get so yes, there's
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Speaker 12: more effort because there's a very codified system that we
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Speaker 12: expect to support. But the three yield and market returns
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Speaker 12: per hectare drive upwards of one hundred and thirty eight
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Speaker 12: thousand perctor return, you know, versus seventy thousand from your
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Speaker 12: traditional apple variety. That's a significant upside. So that's the
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Speaker 12: biggest benefit. In last year we paid out one hundred
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Speaker 12: and seventy two million to New Zealand growers alone, which
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Speaker 12: was twenty five percent up on the previous year. So
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Speaker 12: and we've a strong outlook to grow on that this year.
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Speaker 3: Billion dollars is good, But what's your goal.
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Speaker 12: Oh, look, we fundamentally believe, given our participation in markets
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Speaker 12: across the world that we can go easily to two
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Speaker 12: times that, and if we really get some strong performance
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Speaker 12: in our execution and partnerships globally, we can go beyond
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Speaker 12: that doubling position over the next couple of years.
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Speaker 3: Shane Kingston, T and G Managing Direct, appreciate your time
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Speaker 3: this morning, Thanks for being with me. Twenty four minutes
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Speaker 3: after five. A couple of little updates for you when
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Speaker 3: we come back. One on not just a RAN but
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Speaker 3: China and the oil and the blockade. I mean, they're
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Speaker 3: obviously not happy, but there's a couple of interesting reasons
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Speaker 3: why you're on News Talk. CREB will be stateside before
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Speaker 3: quarter to six this morning, as well.
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Speaker 3: very special good morning to all the redheads listening to
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Speaker 3: the show this morning. Lovely to have you tuning in.
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Speaker 3: There's a new Harvard research come out about human evolution
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Speaker 3: and it mentions you quite specifically, so I'll come back
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Speaker 3: to that in a second. I'll come back to you
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Speaker 3: in a second. But conventional wisdom says that Homo sapiens,
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Speaker 3: that's us. We've been round for about three hundred thousand years. Basically,
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Speaker 3: we stopped evolving as soon as we came into being.
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Speaker 3: We reached pete human and then we let's give up
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Speaker 3: tools down, go home. We don't need to evolve anymore.
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Speaker 3: It took us about seven million years to evolve from
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Speaker 3: looking more like apes. It took us four million years
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Speaker 3: to walk on two legs, which is one of the
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Speaker 3: things that makes humans humans. And more recently we learned
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Speaker 3: how to use tools and language. That took a while.
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Speaker 3: Some of us still not that great at it. But
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Speaker 3: once we stopped hunter gathering, you know, roaming around looking
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Speaker 3: for food, and settled down to farm our own food
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Speaker 3: and build cities and build civilizations and all that good stuff,
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Speaker 3: natural selection wasn't such a big deal. But that is
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Speaker 3: not true. They looked at DNA this study from sixteen
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Speaker 3: thousand people over ten thousand years, some from ancient burial sites,
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Speaker 3: some from modern DNA banks like the UK Biobank. So
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Speaker 3: we used to think natural selection was changing just a
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Speaker 3: dozen genes. Now they reckon it's hundreds of genes in
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Speaker 3: modern times. You know, Celiac disease that's now more common,
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Speaker 3: And you might think, why, who doesn't love pasta and oats, right,
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Speaker 3: you'd think ever would edit out something like Celiac disease.
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Speaker 3: But no, because the gene actually increases your resistance to
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Speaker 3: a whole bunch of germs and bacteria, so you're less
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Speaker 3: likely to die, You're more likely to live longer, and
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Speaker 3: the longer you live, the more likely you are to
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Speaker 3: pass that gene onto your kids. That's how natural selection works.
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Speaker 3: The gene for narrow wastes has become more common. This is,
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Speaker 3: according to the research, because we didn't need to store
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Speaker 3: as much fat. You know, when we were hunting gathering,
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Speaker 3: we had to store a lot of fat because we
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Speaker 3: don't know when the next meal was coming. Now we're farming,
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Speaker 3: we don't need to do it. Although you wouldn't know
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Speaker 3: that walking around the supermarket and checking out people's bellies,
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Speaker 3: would you. Redheads, it's your time to shine. The redhead gene,
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Speaker 3: the MC one R. It's become more common in recent history.
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Speaker 3: It's popular more gingers than ever before, more Gingers than
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Speaker 3: you can shake a stick out. Congratulations. The only risk
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Speaker 3: mystery in this whole story is why there is no
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Speaker 3: obvious survival advantage to being a ginger, other then I
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Speaker 3: suppose looking fabulous. Ryan Bridge talkb Faraja has given some
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Speaker 3: staged advice to Starmer on how to deal with Trump.
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Speaker 13: Trump is not an easy man, and right at the
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Speaker 13: minute he's furious with Starmer because we've denied them the
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Speaker 13: use of the basis right at the start of the war.
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Speaker 13: Then we changed our minds, let things settle down. We
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Speaker 13: can have a good negotiation of that. I've got no doubt.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Ti Hoe don't listen to the tweets your on
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Speaker 1: Next, Ryan Bridge on early edition with Spark for Business
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Speaker 3: Away from the six year on News Talk ZIBB. Coming up,
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Speaker 3: we'll hear to the US Trump's moving on from the war.
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Speaker 3: The White House briefing underway right now. It's all about
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Speaker 3: tax cuts. And here in New Ze forget the doctor,
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Speaker 3: get a pharmacist. We'll talk about that before six to two.
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Speaker 3: Ryan stops spending as much on welfare. Remember Chippy blew
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Speaker 3: us apart. The texta flooding in on this idea. Well,
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Speaker 3: how you might get more tax? So Treasury says we
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Speaker 3: need more tax. Also they said we need more cuts,
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Speaker 3: but we need more tax. Government needs more tax and irdcs.
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Speaker 3: This is how you could do it. One of them's
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Speaker 3: capital gains tax, one of them's up in DGST, A
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Speaker 3: whole bunch of stuff. Ryan. Ultimately, what these numbers tell us,
18:28
Speaker 3: says Matt, is that we're living beyond our means. It's
18:30
Speaker 3: pretty plain that we just need to cut fiddling around
18:34
Speaker 3: with taxes. Ain't going to solve the problem. In fact,
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Speaker 3: we'll just drive more productive people off shore. Matt. Hard
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Speaker 3: to argue with that, Ryan, Why doesn't the government just
18:41
Speaker 3: live within its means, says Chris. Look at the cost blowouts,
18:45
Speaker 3: look at the increases in salaries for the top bosses
18:48
Speaker 3: and the public service. It is out of control. Twenty
18:50
Speaker 3: three away from six, Ryan breed. She's got to have
18:53
Speaker 3: reporters around the country, Callum and to need more than
18:55
Speaker 3: callum morning, Ryan, you got de Cinder in town?
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Speaker 14: We do, and she's in demand as well. She's speaking
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Speaker 14: tonight at a sold out Regent theater. Former Prime Minister
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Speaker 14: back here for a rare public appearance in the South Island,
19:10
Speaker 14: just into return taking the stage as part of the
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Speaker 14: Dunedan Writers and Readers Festival, and she'll be speaking at
19:16
Speaker 14: the regions alongside former colleague and Otaga University Vice Chancellor
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Speaker 14: Grant Robertson. The people discuss their memoirs, reflecting on their
19:24
Speaker 14: time leading the country together. Festival organizers have built the
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Speaker 14: event as a once in a lifetime occasion and it's tonight.
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Speaker 14: Indoneda and An's also scheduled to appear at next month's
19:35
Speaker 14: Auckland Writers.
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Speaker 3: Festival right, how much were tickets do you know? Out
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Speaker 3: of an unsure unsure probably put a few people in debt.
19:43
Speaker 3: I to mention. How's your weather?
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Speaker 14: Showers possibly heavy today, Ryan clearing this afternoon. We've got
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Speaker 14: a strong wind watch as well. Sou west gusts of
19:51
Speaker 14: one hundred k's easing this afternoon fourteen the height.
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Speaker 3: Yes, come and thank you clear than christ this morning, clear,
19:56
Speaker 3: good morning. What's going on with this emergency hub and Selwyn?
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Speaker 12: Yeah?
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Speaker 15: Basically, the Salwyn District Council has spent the past three
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Speaker 15: years working with Police, Fire and Emergency and Saint John
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Speaker 15: on this idea of having a shared campus for Selwyn.
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Speaker 15: Of course, it's the country's fastest growing district that had
20:11
Speaker 15: population growth of almost thirty percent between twenty eighteen and
20:15
Speaker 15: twenty twenty three. The councilors, though, have voted to abandon
20:19
Speaker 15: this plan for the campus at Rolliston, with the land
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Speaker 15: instead Eirmunk for housing. It's future use, though hasn't yet
20:26
Speaker 15: been decided. Councilor Sarah Barnsley says the need for an
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Speaker 15: emergency services campus hasn't changed, but it's not necessarily the
20:34
Speaker 15: best location for the hub, being a quite high residential area.
20:38
Speaker 15: She says, with a bit more time, central government may
20:40
Speaker 15: consider how much of an asset hub would be for
20:43
Speaker 15: the bustling district, and they much have been.
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Speaker 3: How's your weather clip?
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Speaker 16: The odd morning.
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Speaker 15: Shower about but otherwise clearing to fire before some heavy
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Speaker 15: showers for Banks Peninsula later westerly strong this afternoon and
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Speaker 15: a high nineteen.
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Speaker 3: I thank you clear to besss in Wellington. H bess
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Speaker 3: Hey is a redheat.
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Speaker 2: I appreciate you. Welcome this morning.
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Speaker 3: Ah, there's always one, lovely. I'm glad that you're so
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Speaker 3: proud about it too.
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Speaker 2: This morning always loud and proud.
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Speaker 3: Hey, tell us about this? Are you going to get
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Speaker 3: wasted this weekend or what at this boozy event?
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Speaker 2: Well, if you like Gin, get down to Wellington because
21:17
Speaker 2: the inaugural Gin Trails underway. So this is thirty venues
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Speaker 2: offering up what they're calling bespoke Gin Experiences. It's a
21:24
Speaker 2: self guided tour, so you use your Gin passport and
21:28
Speaker 2: pick where you visit. Its similar to that of Wellington
21:30
Speaker 2: on a plate. There's a bit of everything, from full
21:33
Speaker 2: on tasting menus and workshops, some funky drinks as well,
21:36
Speaker 2: including a rhubab custard pie cocktail and one with a
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Speaker 2: passion fruits and avocado. Organizer Brett McCall says the event
21:44
Speaker 2: costs around ten thousand dollars and it's designed to support
21:47
Speaker 2: the local hospitality industry. He says the venues are all
21:50
Speaker 2: in and the only missing piece now is getting Wellingtonians
21:54
Speaker 2: out on the trail.
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Speaker 3: Plodding the gin and ginger to bes. Thank you, how's
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Speaker 3: your weather?
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Speaker 2: Wesley's are strong and exposed places today. You're seventeen the
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Speaker 2: high in Wellington.
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Speaker 3: Thanks here and neivas an not good morning Neva.
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Speaker 8: It's the only drink I don't like gin gin.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not a gin drinker. I go for the
22:10
Speaker 3: vod Karain No, not vodka either. What are you drinking?
22:14
Speaker 15: Red wine?
22:15
Speaker 8: That's it old person's.
22:17
Speaker 3: Drink with and then a sherry to finish. What's going
22:21
Speaker 3: on with the busway?
22:22
Speaker 8: Well? Can I tell you this? There's about six hundred
22:25
Speaker 8: properties they will be impacted. This is by the Airport
22:28
Speaker 8: to Botany busway project and many may be forcibly acquired.
22:34
Speaker 8: So the residential, commercial coming or order Auckland Council, crown
22:38
Speaker 8: Land properties, they're all included. People will have notifications edited
22:42
Speaker 8: to their property reports. Obviously, some are fearing this is
22:45
Speaker 8: going to affect their resale value. Auckland Transport says full
22:49
Speaker 8: and fear compensation will be given to those whose land
22:51
Speaker 8: is required. Now, this is an eighteen kilometer bus way.
22:55
Speaker 8: It's still years away. It's expected to cost billions of dollars.
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Speaker 3: Weather Neva partly.
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Speaker 8: Cloudy isolated shower is doing to rain for a time
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Speaker 8: this morning could be heavy.
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Speaker 6: Twenty is high.
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Speaker 3: Brilliant, Thank you very much. It is nineteen minutes away
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Speaker 3: from six. By the way, Bob's just texted on Callum's
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Speaker 3: update from DNED and run an evening with Jacinda billed
23:15
Speaker 3: as a once in a lifetime experience. Bob says, so
23:18
Speaker 3: as death rain bridge, right, let's get to China. So
23:24
Speaker 3: China obviously looking to do something in Taiwan. That's what
23:27
Speaker 3: all the geopolitical experts tell you, and you don't have
23:31
Speaker 3: to look. I mean, it doesn't take a rocket scientist
23:33
Speaker 3: to put one and two together. So what happens with
23:36
Speaker 3: the oil. This is the interesting part about China's dependence
23:38
Speaker 3: on a run for oil because it's not massive. So
23:41
Speaker 3: oil accounts for less than a fifth of China's total
23:43
Speaker 3: energy mix, however, and Iran imports. Iranian imports make up
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Speaker 3: about twelve percent of what they import, so it's not massive.
23:53
Speaker 3: I mean it's significant, but not massive. However, they have
23:57
Speaker 3: a much higher reliance on these imports for transportation and aviation,
24:04
Speaker 3: and transportation and aviation are very important for the military.
24:08
Speaker 3: So if China is buying eighty percent of Iran's oil
24:12
Speaker 3: and that oil is supporting the military planes and the
24:16
Speaker 3: ships and the stuff that you might need to take Taiwan,
24:20
Speaker 3: then is this a smart move from Trump? A two birds,
24:23
Speaker 3: one stone situation. You had to run, you hit China,
24:26
Speaker 3: and maybe you protect Taiwan in the process. I mean,
24:28
Speaker 3: this is why people say, yeah, he's mad, he's crazy,
24:31
Speaker 3: he does dumb stuff, But then every now and then
24:33
Speaker 3: there's sort of a glimmer of genius in there, you
24:35
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Seventeen to six, Mitch mccannon stateside
24:39
Speaker 3: next News Talk CB, it is quarter to six. We'll
24:42
Speaker 3: get to Mitch mccannon just a second. But I first
24:44
Speaker 3: wanted to share with you this little story. So Donald
24:46
Speaker 3: Trump Junior has a podcast it's called Triggered. And in
24:49
Speaker 3: that podcast, Dr Ozippead, you know, doctor Ozie he's always
24:53
Speaker 3: on Fox News, and he now actually heads these centers
24:56
Speaker 3: for Medicare and Medicaid services because Trump gave him a job. Anyway,
25:00
Speaker 3: on the podcast, he says that Donald Trump, who loves
25:03
Speaker 3: a diet soda, loves a coke zero. He presses a
25:07
Speaker 3: red button in the Oval office and a diet soft
25:09
Speaker 3: drink is brought to him during meetings. He apparently told
25:13
Speaker 3: Doctor Oz after he won the election back in twenty twenty,
25:17
Speaker 3: sorry twenty sixteen. He said to Dr Oz that because
25:21
Speaker 3: when you pour soda coke on grass, it kills the grass.
25:26
Speaker 3: Therefore it must kill cancer cells inside the body. Anyway,
25:29
Speaker 3: Carolyn Livitt's been asked about it.
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Speaker 17: Look, as we all know in this room, I think
25:33
Speaker 17: you know the President has a very good sense of humor.
25:35
Speaker 17: It's one of his most underreported characteristics. I would say
25:39
Speaker 17: I have heard him tell this joke before. I think
25:41
Speaker 17: the Wall Street Journal should get a better.
25:43
Speaker 5: Sense of humor.
25:46
Speaker 3: Fourteen minutes away from.
25:47
Speaker 1: Six International correspondence with ends and eye Insurance, Peace of
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Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.
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Speaker 3: Rich pretends stateside for US Mitch Schide, welcome to the program.
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Speaker 3: Just listening to that press conference A lot of focus
26:04
Speaker 3: on tax cuts. He's sort of moving on from the
26:06
Speaker 3: war a bit, isn't he.
26:07
Speaker 18: Yeah, Well, look, he seems to be optimistic that this
26:09
Speaker 18: war's going to come to an end in a couple
26:11
Speaker 18: of days. But Ryan, he's been saying that for the
26:13
Speaker 18: last six weeks. Iran actually today has come out and
26:17
Speaker 18: said they will decide if there's going to be secondary
26:19
Speaker 18: talks or negotiations in the coming week or so, after
26:23
Speaker 18: meeting a Pakistani delegation that's gone out to Iran today
26:26
Speaker 18: to talk to them. One of the areas that the
26:28
Speaker 18: countries apparently cannot agree on is on uranium enrichment. It's
26:32
Speaker 18: emerged that the US is asking for an enrichment suspension
26:36
Speaker 18: of around twenty years, and the Iranians are not happy
26:39
Speaker 18: with that, although Donald Trump has then come out earlier
26:41
Speaker 18: today and said twenty years is not good enough. So
26:44
Speaker 18: some mixed messages from the White House. When it comes
26:47
Speaker 18: to the Strait of Hormuz, the US is still blocking
26:50
Speaker 18: ships coming and going from Iranian ports, so that's a
26:53
Speaker 18: massive financial cost to Iran. But it's also been reported
26:56
Speaker 18: today that Iran is said if they continue to do this,
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Speaker 18: going to try and cut off imports and exports throughout
27:03
Speaker 18: the Middle East, not just in the Strait of Hormoves,
27:05
Speaker 18: which would have massive implications elsewhere. So it remains to
27:08
Speaker 18: be seen if they actually have the power to do that,
27:10
Speaker 18: or the Navy to do that. But a lot of
27:12
Speaker 18: changing parts.
27:13
Speaker 3: And he's scrapping with Jerome Powell again.
27:16
Speaker 18: Yeah, he's got big beef with Jerome Powell, as he
27:19
Speaker 18: has for some time because Jerome Powell refuses to cut
27:21
Speaker 18: interest rates at the rate that Donald Trump wants him to.
27:25
Speaker 3: He says that.
27:25
Speaker 18: If Jerome Powell intends to stay on as one of
27:28
Speaker 18: the Board of Governors when he finishes his term as
27:30
Speaker 18: chair of the Federal Reserve, he's going to have to
27:33
Speaker 18: fire him. He says he's wanted to fire him for
27:35
Speaker 18: a while, but he hates to be controversial, so we'll
27:37
Speaker 18: have to see if he goes through with that threat.
27:40
Speaker 3: Mitch, thank you. Mitch McCann, our US correspondent with US
27:43
Speaker 3: this morning. Time is twelve minutes away from six Brian Bridge.
27:47
Speaker 3: Pharmacists have been given more powers. This is to help
27:49
Speaker 3: take the pressure off GP. So you're about to do
27:51
Speaker 3: more at the pharmacy that you don't need to do
27:53
Speaker 3: with your doctor. They'll be able to hand out more
27:55
Speaker 3: meds over the counter. This is your kid's cold and
27:57
Speaker 3: flu medicine, your antibiotics, treatment for gabies. Even Lanny Wang
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Speaker 3: is director of Lanny Wang forgive me as director of
28:05
Speaker 3: mung of Phi Pharmacy joins me this morning and a
28:06
Speaker 3: good morning.
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Speaker 12: Good morning.
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Speaker 3: Is what will this do to a workload for a
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Speaker 3: pharmacy or is it a good part a good problem
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Speaker 3: to have.
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Speaker 4: Yes, there is definitely a good problem to have. Yes,
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Speaker 4: certainly it will be something that will increase our workload. However,
28:23
Speaker 4: in saying that all the condition that was announced yesterday
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Speaker 4: are things that pharmacy pharmacists already do, so you know,
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Speaker 4: it means it's nothing new for us. It's just business
28:34
Speaker 4: as usual. However, I think we anticipate demand will probably
28:37
Speaker 4: increase if the message get out that people can access
28:41
Speaker 4: these service for free from the pharmacy and access medicine
28:45
Speaker 4: for free, that that will be a huge help for
28:47
Speaker 4: some family.
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Speaker 3: So if I do parents just come to you with
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Speaker 3: their sick kids anyway and say what do I do?
28:53
Speaker 4: Yeah, they actually do. Like you know, all the condition
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Speaker 4: that was announced, like you know, pain and fever for
28:59
Speaker 4: children or rehydration, fluid, scabies, headline, conjunct biders, all those
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Speaker 4: things parents already come in. Especially, you know, scavy is
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Speaker 4: probably one that's really really handy to really access that
29:09
Speaker 4: in the fancy. For example, you know, if if there's
29:12
Speaker 4: a scavy outbreak, it tends to impact a lot of people.
29:15
Speaker 4: Like you know, even if you don't have the condition,
29:17
Speaker 4: you're supposed to treat yourself for it and treat the
29:20
Speaker 4: entire family to make sure you can eradicate the whole thing.
29:23
Speaker 4: So being able to access that conveniently from a pharmacy
29:27
Speaker 4: is actually very helpful for that type of condition because.
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Speaker 3: This is the real changes and that it's not so
29:31
Speaker 3: much that people are coming to you with new things,
29:34
Speaker 3: it's that you'll be able to directly give them the
29:36
Speaker 3: funded medicines.
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Speaker 4: That's absolutely correct. Yeah, you know, like the one that
29:41
Speaker 4: uncomplicated UTI. That's one that's always been a bad bug
29:44
Speaker 4: of mine because you know, I have to charge for
29:46
Speaker 4: my service. It's not a free service. And over the years,
29:49
Speaker 4: you know that i've been providing the service, I've had
29:52
Speaker 4: plenty of women cright in front of me because they
29:54
Speaker 4: couldn't afford the fee and things like that. So This
29:58
Speaker 4: will be a real game changer for women women's health,
30:01
Speaker 4: and it means they can access this at a funded
30:04
Speaker 4: rate that what they'll get from a GP. But you
30:07
Speaker 4: know it's a game changer for mom and dad as well.
30:09
Speaker 4: You know a lot of mom and dad do bypass
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Speaker 4: the pharmacy and go straight to GP because they can
30:13
Speaker 4: bring your children to see the GP for free, and
30:15
Speaker 4: then when they get their prescription, they can collect it
30:17
Speaker 4: for free, so all of that can happen in the
30:20
Speaker 4: commune pharmacy. Conjunct dividers is another one. You know, if
30:24
Speaker 4: you've ever been called home by your daycare because your
30:27
Speaker 4: child's got conjunct dividers, you know that's that's another. If
30:30
Speaker 4: you can't afford to pay for the medicine, then that's
30:33
Speaker 4: what parents do. They take them to the GP because
30:36
Speaker 4: it's free to see the GP, and then when they.
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Speaker 12: Get the description is free. You know, the prescription is free.
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Speaker 4: But if you go straight to a pharmacy, that's not
30:43
Speaker 4: the case at the moment.
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Speaker 3: How do you how do you guys make most of
30:46
Speaker 3: your money Is it from selling makeup and sunscreen and stuff?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we make we make our money from dispensing and yes,
30:54
Speaker 4: all the other products help. You know, you know, pharmacy
30:59
Speaker 4: is a unique place. We do have the rights to
31:01
Speaker 4: sell medicine. So yeah, if I had to say what
31:05
Speaker 4: we make most of money is that we do. We
31:07
Speaker 4: do sell products and that's how we make money. And
31:11
Speaker 4: that is, I guess, you know, a privilege that all
31:14
Speaker 4: pharmacy have that you know, and that's why you see
31:17
Speaker 4: pharmacy and you know the most remote places of New
31:20
Speaker 4: Zealand like Pakia Tour, you know like it's it's it's
31:24
Speaker 4: the only way you know, you can get health services
31:28
Speaker 4: to an area, to a rare remote area that service
31:32
Speaker 4: the community.
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Speaker 12: Because you know, we we you know, we do.
31:35
Speaker 4: We do realize that we have the privilege to sell
31:37
Speaker 4: products that other people couldn't and you know, in some
31:41
Speaker 4: ways it's a it's a system that you know, allow
31:43
Speaker 4: health service to exist and in places that it's very
31:47
Speaker 4: challenging to learning.
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Speaker 3: Woe among five pharmacy. Appreciate your time this morning, and
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Speaker 3: that's why you won't get your big chemist warehouse going
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Speaker 3: the price for those tickets to go. You know if
32:14
Speaker 3: you are' well it's sold out anyway, so you can't go.
32:16
Speaker 3: But the price to go see Jacinda and Grant speaking
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Speaker 3: Dunedin tonight fifty nine anywhere from fifty nine to seventy
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Speaker 3: nine dollars seventy nine presumably gets your upfront with all
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Speaker 3: the goods by Ryan Sex Morning Mike.
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Speaker 16: They running merch.
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Speaker 3: What would they have like a little a debt calculator.
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Speaker 16: Books?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, there'll be books. It's a writer's festival, so
32:38
Speaker 3: I t shirts I mentioned, there'll be books, coasters, blank checks,
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Speaker 3: drink bottles. Do you see I'm reading about Megan?
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Speaker 12: Yeah?
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Speaker 16: So yeah, I heard you say the master Chief thing.
32:51
Speaker 16: That's that was cringe enough. So what she does all
32:54
Speaker 16: this stuff, I mean it does a lot of stars
32:56
Speaker 16: do it already. But so what she's wearing on the
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Speaker 16: Australian tour straight to a website in California and so
33:02
Speaker 16: you click on that.
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Speaker 3: Have you been on the site you can get. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 3: I had a look on there. This is a couple
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Speaker 3: of months ago when I learned about it. Everything's very expensive.
33:11
Speaker 3: It is expensive. Well, it depends what you mean by expensive.
33:15
Speaker 3: Eighty dollars for a candle.
33:17
Speaker 16: Well, certainly for a candle, but mind you, having said that,
33:19
Speaker 16: I've spent more on a candle. It depends on the
33:21
Speaker 16: oil content of the candle to be fed.
33:23
Speaker 3: There are mic prices and then there are the rest
33:25
Speaker 3: of US prices.
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Speaker 16: But I thought, I thought her dressed the other day
33:28
Speaker 16: when she arrived, which was a deep blue with gold buttons,
33:31
Speaker 16: was quite nice. And that wasn't it. That was twelve
33:34
Speaker 16: hundred dollars, which for some people is expensive. But as
33:37
Speaker 16: you know, for a nice design address.
33:44
Speaker 3: Sometimes I just haven't catching mid sentence and I'm like,
33:47
Speaker 3: who is this man? You never know with me, Ryan,
33:52
Speaker 3: Do you never know? Anyway?
33:54
Speaker 16: Do you know what a VLCC is? No, a very
33:56
Speaker 16: large crude carrier. And they carried.
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Speaker 3: Two million barrels by nine of.
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Speaker 16: Them got out yesterday. So we'll talk about that this morning.
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Speaker 3: The tray, the tree's opening up, she's opening up.
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Speaker 16: I think I think it's all going to work out.
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Speaker 3: Well, great, Day run cent tomorrow
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