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Monday Mini: SMNTY Plays a Game · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: Stephane never told your prolection of iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: And welcome to another edition of Monday Mini where we
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  Speaker 2: talk about random things. And today's random thing, Annie, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: you're making so many faces at me.
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  Speaker 3: My laptop almost fell but everything was averted.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, so many faces happening. I was like, you're really
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  Speaker 2: into this or you're really scared of this. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what's happening. Yes, Today's Monday Mini is me talking
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  Speaker 2: about mobile games again because I am thoroughly caught up
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  Speaker 2: in one and I wanted to talk about kind of
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  Speaker 2: the whole.
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  Speaker 4: I think they've got me.
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  Speaker 2: Mobile games has got me, and one is the one
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing right now is I'm not going to mention
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  Speaker 2: the game because it's a big company. It's a big
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  Speaker 2: gaming company, so it's not like the small companies, which
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  Speaker 2: you know we've talked before. I was like, oh, this
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  Speaker 2: is nice to say. They definitely have diverse things. This
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  Speaker 2: has none of that. This is essentially a board game
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  Speaker 2: that's turned into a video game that is making money,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm part of that reason. And I'm very ashamed
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  Speaker 2: to say this because I swore I would never do
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  Speaker 2: such a thing. I would rather watch all the ten
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  Speaker 2: thousand ads. But they were smart and they do not
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  Speaker 2: have this. They even have a Discord, and yes, this
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  Speaker 2: made me join Discord. I am very confused by the
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  Speaker 2: good Discord. I can't understand what's happening on Discord. It
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  Speaker 2: seems like a lot of foreign languages because all it
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  Speaker 2: is is like signs and just letters and just emojis,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, what the hell does this mean?
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  Speaker 4: So it makes me feel very old.
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  Speaker 2: But on top of that, I've become the boomer level
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  Speaker 2: where I have used using Facebook.
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  Speaker 4: As a part of this gaming.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and I laugh because I have gotten so caught up.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not laughing. I'm kind of disappointed. I guess with
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  Speaker 2: myself because the other day I was in a fight
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  Speaker 2: with a woman named Deborah, who is obviously my senior,
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, this woman, I'm gonna come get
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  Speaker 2: her because you could attack each other on these games.
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  Speaker 2: I was unhappy because she attacked me like ten times
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  Speaker 2: in a row. I was like, girl, you picked the
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  Speaker 2: wrong one. So I was honibly yelling at my phone
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  Speaker 2: over a mobile game while my partner is sitting next
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  Speaker 2: to me and has now come to the boy where
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  Speaker 2: it's like, are you attacking Deborah again? Are you fighting
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  Speaker 2: with Debora still? I was like, I will find her
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  Speaker 2: and I will take down all her buildings. Okay, but
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  Speaker 2: I decided, I was like, you know what, we need
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  Speaker 2: to have an update anyway. Because I bought a lot
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  Speaker 2: of games for my switch, I have not played anything, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because I really want to do the cozy gaming, but
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  Speaker 2: I get caught up into like doing the beginning part,
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  Speaker 2: and then when it gets I'm like, why, I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to do this anymore because apparently my meager brain
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  Speaker 2: practices wants to just put blocks together and then attack
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  Speaker 2: people and make money off of things that's not real money.
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  Speaker 2: And it's really disheartening because a part of the Facebook group,
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  Speaker 2: the reason you join is you trade things so you
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  Speaker 2: can complete card sets or sticker sets and such. It
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  Speaker 2: feels really like, as I'm talking about this out loud, yes,
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  Speaker 2: I realize how ridiculous this sounds, but there's five point
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  Speaker 2: five million people on this one Facebook group, and then
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  Speaker 2: the and then there's like offsets, and then the amount
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  Speaker 2: of people that's on discord.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how to look that up. So, but
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot. I'll say it that way. There's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: But it's really disheartening because people want like minimal things
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  Speaker 2: for fifty times what it's worth, and You're like, what
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  Speaker 2: is happening? People are scamming people like taking things, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, what is this? And I guess technically, by
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  Speaker 2: the name of the game, it makes sense and it's
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  Speaker 2: exactly doing what you think is supposed to be doing.
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  Speaker 2: But you want to see better people. So I'm the
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  Speaker 2: one giving stuff away because I'm like, come on, be nice.
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  Speaker 2: What's wrong with all of you? You are the worst people.
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  Speaker 2: This is where I've become. And I have actually spent
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  Speaker 2: money on this game, which I was like, wow, my
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  Speaker 2: rationale was at least I'm spending in this way and
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  Speaker 2: I'm not buying the Switch Game Switch. I already did that,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, like this is just the equal to
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  Speaker 2: that because I don't do the big big and you
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  Speaker 2: can spend up to one hundred dollars on it, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, who does this?
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god, who does this?
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  Speaker 2: And Andy apparently in twenty twenty one, I think we
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  Speaker 2: already talked about it once, but it's like one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and sixteen billion dollars. People spend one hundred and six
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  Speaker 2: not not just like earning in ads, people spend one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and sixteen billion dollars for these mobile games. And
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  Speaker 2: it says on CNBC that and oh no, this can't
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  Speaker 2: be right because this was from twenty fifteen, so this
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  Speaker 2: is really outdated. That it was forty four percent male
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  Speaker 2: and fifty six percent female who were her buying these
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  Speaker 2: But that was again very outdated, gey like uh information,
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know what it is today. It does
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  Speaker 2: say that some of the oh, as of twenty eighteen,
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  Speaker 2: it was seventy nine percent more likely to do in
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  Speaker 2: at purchases. So more and more women seemingly are the
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  Speaker 2: ones who are spending money because they want to keep
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  Speaker 2: playing these games or they need more material to collect
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  Speaker 2: these things. And BT dubs Pokemon is one of the
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  Speaker 2: highest grossing ones. But what out does that candy Crush?
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  Speaker 3: That does not surprise me?
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  Speaker 2: Does it not surprise me? I assumed candy Crush would
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  Speaker 2: not be the highest. The highest is something called the
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  Speaker 2: Honor of Kings.
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  Speaker 4: Do you know what this is?
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  Speaker 1: I don't, but I feel like I've seen, I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I have an idea of what it is, and
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  Speaker 1: I've seen ats sort of a like fighting almost like
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  Speaker 1: World of Warcraft Katar okay sort of thing.
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  Speaker 2: It outstrips everything else. So it made in twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: three so far eight hundred and sixty four million. But
• 6:17
  Speaker 2: then like the second one, which is called pob Mobile PUBG.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it's the brand I don't know, which set six
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  Speaker 2: hundred and thirty six million, So it's like a two
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  Speaker 2: hundred million dollar difference from that to this. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what if someone knows what honor of kings, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not doing it because I'm I'm scared now I'm scared.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like that's a cut too. You're opening yourself
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  Speaker 1: to a situation.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: Not well, the games that I like, the number one, two, three, four, five,
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  Speaker 2: sixty seven highest grossing is one of the ones that
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  Speaker 2: I plays, Royal Match, which is just the matching.
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  Speaker 4: And it's really easy. They do it. They're smart.
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  Speaker 2: They do have a level of easy medium hard type
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  Speaker 2: of thing, but they make sure to all such so
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  Speaker 2: you're not so frustrated that you quit, Like when they
• 7:01
  Speaker 2: get so hard that you're like, Okay, this is so frustrating.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to do this anymore.
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  Speaker 2: They're very smart about it, right, And I have caught
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  Speaker 2: up on two of my games now that I've loved,
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  Speaker 2: including uh, the Love of Pies one that I mentioned previously,
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  Speaker 2: where I have caught up so quickly to it that
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  Speaker 2: they have to do side quests because they're uploading new
• 7:23
  Speaker 2: areas to like renovate or whatever add up to. So
• 7:27
  Speaker 2: that's where I which I'm like, oh wow, oh wow,
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  Speaker 2: Like they are still updating to get new material, so
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  Speaker 2: they're doing side quests that it's just like an easy
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  Speaker 2: OHM Like I love that too. Let's go, y'all, it's
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  Speaker 2: the whole thing. And like this amount of money, I billions,
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  Speaker 2: billions of dollars because all you do is like they
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  Speaker 2: get these deals, it's like ninety nine cents and you're like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: let's let me do that. And that's the average that
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  Speaker 2: most people are like in that average of spending from
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  Speaker 2: ninety nine cents to ten dollars a month, and that's
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  Speaker 2: enough and that's not that's also including a lot of
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  Speaker 2: them have the ads, right, so uh, Love of Flies brilliant.
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  Speaker 2: You get extra things by watching thirty second ads, and
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  Speaker 2: I have repeatedly watched all these ads. I don't need
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  Speaker 2: people's judgment, but yes, like it's an interesting, interesting conversation,
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  Speaker 2: like about who's playing what and how I'm caught up.
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  Speaker 2: And then this level of like if you're lonely the
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  Speaker 2: one the game that I'm like, this makes sense because
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  Speaker 2: you again communicate with people. I've seen people like just
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  Speaker 2: talking on these things and begging for like again to trade,
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  Speaker 2: but also they're like, thank you so much and then
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  Speaker 2: coming onto each other's site to help build these different things.
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  Speaker 3: Y'all.
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  Speaker 2: I know I am aging myself when I call these
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  Speaker 2: conversations about what I'm doing in life, like because I'm
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  Speaker 2: not reading books anymore. I'm now playing phone games. But
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  Speaker 2: it's such an interesting way of building money and interacting
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  Speaker 2: that it's no longer just like.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, we're on chat rooms. What's again? Date myself I
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  Speaker 4: just made myself said.
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  Speaker 3: Yea, it's fine. I'm fine, everything's fine.
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  Speaker 2: But this whole idea of this micro transactions where you
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  Speaker 2: can make money geniusly off of getting people to play
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  Speaker 2: for additional whatever LIFs or coins or stickers or whatever whatnot,
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  Speaker 2: and the fact that they are making money tons of
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  Speaker 2: that game Garden Scapes, which got really dreamed out for
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  Speaker 2: false advertising.
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  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 2: It is one of the top five grossing of the
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  Speaker 2: year with hundreds of millions of dollars.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's big business.
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: I saw that ad that Pedro Pascal and Yes, and
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: I was like, we saw it in movie theater and
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: I was like, what movie is this?
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  Speaker 2: And you were like, no, that's okay, that's the one
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: Grandma game that I was like, that's not how that
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  Speaker 2: because they had Kathy Bates in it too. But then
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  Speaker 2: Pedro Pascal, well, after now Last of Us pops up,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, what the what's happening? I thought it was
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  Speaker 2: like a legit, Like the way they.
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  Speaker 4: Set it up, it was going to be like a ten.
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  Speaker 1: Dollar episode series of a murder mystery or something. I
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  Speaker 1: have a question for you, because I'm interested. When when
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  Speaker 1: is the breaking point when you offer, when you're like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'll pay for this. Is it like I can't play
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  Speaker 1: any more unless I do yes, Or.
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  Speaker 2: Is it it's more of like, oh, that's a good deal,
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  Speaker 2: or there's a goal that I have and they have
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  Speaker 2: a time limit, so it's like it's only for and
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  Speaker 2: they have so many quests that you have, like twenty
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  Speaker 2: four hours to try to complete. And then if you're
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: so close, like if I'm nowhere near clothes, I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I don't care, but if I'm so close that I
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: could break it, then I'm likelihood and like, I'm likely
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  Speaker 2: to buy it. But if there's also a good deal
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: and I do, I'm like, Okay, how many of these
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  Speaker 2: materials will I get for this amount? Oh, that's not bad, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: that makes sense. I don't And then the rational I
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: don't play games like this. I don't like do computer
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  Speaker 2: games where you pay ninety nine dollars for whatever, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: or a monthly subscription of whatever, and then you spend
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  Speaker 2: like and then I looked at my amount of like
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  Speaker 2: and it's still not outrageous. It's still it goes out
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  Speaker 2: to be one computer game. But the computer games are
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  Speaker 2: like ninety nine dollars unless you gets on sell or
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: sixty nine dollars, like, but you can play it constantly
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  Speaker 2: unless it gets broken or taken away whatever, as where
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  Speaker 2: this is like, yeah, no, you just bought material for
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: this one random amount. But instead, you know what I've done,
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  Speaker 2: what I've taken my partner's old phone that he doesn't
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  Speaker 2: use and put the game on that and play it
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  Speaker 2: as a second player.
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  Speaker 1: Oh nice, but you are the first player. The second
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  Speaker 1: player is of course yea. And also just like if
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  Speaker 1: I have to pause. But the other parts of that
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  Speaker 1: is I've seen the reason I got that idea. Someone
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: else was like, I have six like they have iPads
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  Speaker 1: and all these things.
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  Speaker 4: I was like what.
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  Speaker 2: And they helped each other. They help themselves trades that
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  Speaker 2: like trade the things, and I was like.
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  Speaker 4: What is okay? I can do that?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, except I think they like even set up like
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  Speaker 2: fake like Facebook accounts in order to help with it,
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  Speaker 2: like cause you get extra things by joining social media.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that would be so funny. I want
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  Speaker 1: to see like the sixty minutes where they're like.
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  Speaker 2: But like the thing, it's actually like I'm talking because
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  Speaker 2: I've realized I've traded things. And you may have to
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  Speaker 2: make friends. They have to join in friends, but you
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  Speaker 2: also attack each other and take money from each other.
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  Speaker 2: So I feel bad someone who helped me out. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: oh sorry, I just took twenty million.
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  Speaker 4: Dollars from you.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's the amount some of them bank of you.
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  Speaker 2: Some of them like like you're just like what is this?
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  Speaker 2: And then I feel bad unless it's Deborah, then I'm
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  Speaker 2: coming at you.
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  Speaker 4: Deborah.
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  Speaker 3: Is Deborah still doing well?
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  Speaker 4: She's stop. I think she figured out.
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  Speaker 2: I figured out and I was coming after her, so
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  Speaker 2: I think she's left me alone. But I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what you're doing, but we're fighting.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, Deborah.
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  Speaker 4: Every Deborah is like, what.
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  Speaker 3: Is it me? Are you listening? You're listening.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think she listens. I'm coming for you. That's
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  Speaker 2: the game I'm playing right now, on top of a
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  Speaker 2: few others. I find it fascinating because it got me like, eventually,
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna get you like to the point that you
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  Speaker 2: like it enough that you want And I feel bad
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  Speaker 2: because this company is too rich to be doing this,
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  Speaker 2: and the other at the very least, the other ones
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  Speaker 2: are like independent companies or haven't been bought out yet,
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  Speaker 2: or at least small enough that I don't feel like,
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm adding fuel of the fire, although they
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: are not on this list at all, so maybe I'm
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  Speaker 2: not making it as much as I thought.
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  Speaker 1: I will say, I know what game you're talking about,
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  Speaker 1: and I feel like some listeners can guess. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: saw some people playing it.
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  Speaker 3: Young.
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  Speaker 2: Young people have kids. It makes me feel creepy. Oh
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  Speaker 2: really there's kids like you can tell about teenagers and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I don't want to I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to hit your stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I saw them playing it when I was waiting in line,
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  Speaker 1: uh at Disney World. Really yeah, they were playing it
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  Speaker 1: on their phones, and I was kind I was perplexed
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  Speaker 1: because I hadn't talked to you about this yet, so
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know this whole thing. But I was like,
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: people still play that, huh.
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  Speaker 3: And now I've learned a lot. There you go.
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  Speaker 2: It's a whole different twist because that doesn't quite make
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: as much sense because I've learned some things, like because
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: I'm friends with myself, I've had to like still from
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: myself as where like because the newer game version is
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: get a lot less, you know, we have to build
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: up to the bigger numbers. But I was like, oh,
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: it says I stole twenty thousand on mine, it says
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  Speaker 2: it stole twenty million.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, what what I did?
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  Speaker 2: I definitely don't have that money. Why are you taking
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  Speaker 2: that much money? And then my partner was like, that's
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  Speaker 2: the whole thing. They take more and it actually in
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: order to regenerate for the game company to make you
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: get more money, like make you try to get more money,
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: even though it's not going to them, it's going to
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  Speaker 2: like in order to take away from you.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, what, that's so unfair.
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  Speaker 3: That's unfair.
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  Speaker 4: Why are you so mean?
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  Speaker 2: I know you're a game about capitalism, but why I
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: think I just Okay, if you didn't know, you don't
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  Speaker 2: know now, but like it's an interesting idea, because man, Annie,
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: we need to make a bus stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Mom've never told you mobile game.
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  Speaker 1: We did talk about doing that, not specifically like that,
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  Speaker 1: but we did talk about having what would kind of be,
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: I hope a tongue in cheek fun but also kind
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: of depressing like can you survive feminism? Yeah, or like
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: like I choose your own adventure type thing.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: But yeah, we could we need to do something. We
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  Speaker 2: could think on this getcause like Muble game apparently is
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  Speaker 2: the way to go.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it does seem that way.
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  Speaker 2: It seems to be the way to go, and then
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  Speaker 2: have some good advertising.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, no, I have another follow up question because
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  Speaker 1: I actually don't play that many mobile games.
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  Speaker 3: When I do, I do, I get it. I totally
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  Speaker 3: get it. I'm gonna make you play. No, you're Deborah. No,
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  Speaker 3: I can never attack you.
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  Speaker 4: I'm so sorry. Because you can choose not to hit them.
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  Speaker 3: I can't do it. I can't.
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  Speaker 1: So no, I would not become your Deborah, but I
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: would get trounced because I couldn't do it. When you play,
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: is it like I'm only going to play for this
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: amount of time and then something happens, You're like, I'm
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: gonna play a little bit more, like how and if
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: you don't want to answer, it's all right. How long
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: are your sessions? Like how long are you?
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: So for this, you are really limited unless you keep
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: paying money because there's a risk factor two. So you
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: can times five so like or times a mountain. So
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: if you have a certain amount of turns, let's say
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: you have five hundred turns, you can do like ten
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: times that. So does like like takes ten of the
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: turns away at a time to give you more spending
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: more cash back because like it gives you rewards back
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: to that amount, so you can have I've seen people
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: who have like twenty thousand turns.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: But because but you can do like five hundred times
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: that max per so you can be done in like
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: twenty minutes, or for me, it's usually the high second
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: goes twenty. But then they have like these special things
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: where you use higher they're smart. Yeah, but it gives
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: you more spending, but it gives you less time, or
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: it gives you more rewards but gives you less time.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: So it's very mothers know what they're doing. This is
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: the math they understood. Yeah, absolutely, so you can only
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: be playing five minutes. But yeah, and then you have
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: to wait, or you and you have to buy more,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: or you wait for eight hours.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Right now, because honestly, I just want to I want
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: to talk more about this later, but.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Because I'm so curious about your experience.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: But I throughout this time, I've been thinking about, like
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: so many things you're mentioning are newer, like discord and
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: going on Facebook.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: When I was growing up, you would buy the like
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: the FAQ, the walkthrough.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: You would find like these old web pages where people
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: were talking about things, and and even arcade games to
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: an extent where oh you're out of a life and
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: you're gonna put it in another quarter. Right, this seems
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: like it's just the evolution of that. It really is
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: phone like with mobile games with phones and credit cards exactly,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: and it's so easy to be like if your credit
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: card information is already saved, to be like okay, yeah,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: I'll go, I'll keep going.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, and like not a sponsor. Google Play and
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: all the little play things on the phone are smart
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: because they're taking a small amount because they also do
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: the advertising for them. Like it's I think genius and evil.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah it is, but I it's I am so fair.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: I even told you I wanted to talk about. I
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: wanted to talk about kind of the world of the gaming,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: like on the outside, the periphery of the discords and
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: the Facebook groups and all that stuff, and to see
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: how what it's like, uh, for women out there, because
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, I do that too, and I for fan
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: fiction that is a huge thing. That is a huge thing.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: The Discord group, which I got invited to when I'm
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: too scared to.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Join again, like I'm doing this and I don't understand
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: what's happening. Aie, I think we actually have a discord
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: We do. Yeah, Oh, my partner set it up for
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: us because he really thinks that we should do it,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm kind of scared. Oh, we technically
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: have a discord that we can try to set up
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know listeners. If you are interested, let us know,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: because yes.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Please let me.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: We would do it for you, won't do it for
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: anybody else other than this game. Here's something I just
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: read and I'm finding fascinating. It says what percentage of
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: people pay for mobile games? Only about five percent of
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: players spend money on in at purchases. Mobile game is
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: an industry where twenty two billion out of fifty billion
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: comes from five percent of players.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Wow, WHOA.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: What? I don't know how old this article is, but
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: that's that's not mathing to me.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: I wonder wow seriously.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: And I'm one of those.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, but I bet there's some people who spend
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: a time. I bet there's like an outlier group that
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: spends a bunch. It's like people who go to Vegas.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Most people aren't betting, like maybe the huge amounts, but
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: the people who are kind of skewing the numbers. That
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: could be totally wrong, But I bet there's people who
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: spend a lot more than your average person and they're
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: kind of moving the numbers that way.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: True.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Again, there's things that you can buy for ninety nine dollars.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: You know, like that is a thing that is the
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: thing in I believe games like World of Warcraft had that.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: It's like I will pay you real money if you
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: will give me this sword. And I'd never play that,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: so don't yell at me, but you know, essentially like
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I will pay real money for this virtual item I
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: can use in the game.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Actually, yes, my partner played Elderring, Yeah, Elder elder Ring Yeah,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: and they were buying things from people, like literal money
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: from people like what how would you do this? And
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: apparently on this game, I've seen people talking but people
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: have paid cash yeah for things, and I was like,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: why why would you do this? That's so scammy?
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: I both agree with you and get it, like, again,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: this could be a really funny cut too moment. I
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: don't think I would ever do it, but if you
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: like really, because there are some items that just take
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: a ridiculous amount of time to get and if you
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: really want that item but you don't want to put
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: in the time, I can get paying someone if they're like, okay,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: I'll give you this item. But it is a really
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: interesting marketplace. And I know someone I won't tell the story,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: but I know someone who has a really tragic story
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: of losing all of that.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Stuff that he paid actual money for.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Oh no, so it can go wrong, and always.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Be careful what you're doing interacting this way. But I
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: do get it. I don't think I would ever do it,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: but I do get it. Y'all. Y'all, y'all. I'm just
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: saying y'all in this.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: But enough of all of that, because I'm still like
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: shame withly I guess admitting these to you.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: Are you playing any.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Games and that doesn't have to be phone games? Are
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: you still on your Last of US playthroughs?
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: I finished, I finished that recently, and I laid out
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: on the Foreign crid as you know usual, I did
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: just finish that. I finished. I actually this again should
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: probably be a separate episode. I have the same problem
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: we've talked about before, Samantha about like we rewatched the
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: same things.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Over and over again.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I feel that with games, and I have a backlog
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: of like forty games. I know this is a video
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: gamers joke, like in your backlog is forty and you're
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: playing the same game again. I really want to play
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Last Signals again, which I talked about. Is this kind
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: of like Stranger things eighties creepy time travel thing, and
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I really enjoy it.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: I played it on steam Deck.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: None of the things we're talking about are currently sponsors,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: by the way, And I loved it and it's really
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: pretty and I like it.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: It's it's it's.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Kind of a bubble text bas like you choose with
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: like three text bubble things. So it's simple and mechanics
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: and it's nice to look at it and it's fun.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: I like the story.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: But my problem is like I want to play the
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: same games over and over again, so I'm never getting
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: into these other games that I know I would love
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: and also want to play over again. But so I'm
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: sort of in a holding pattern where I'm like, should
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I play that again? Or should I play something else
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: that I've never played before. But for me, the thing
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: is I get I love story based games, so I
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: get wound up in the story.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: So if I start a game, I can't stop.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I will, I will stay up all night, and even
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: if I don't finish it, I just get like, I
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: gotta know what happens next. So that's kind of my
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: version of the I just have to know what happens
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: in the story. I do have some in my lists
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: that have come up on this show that I really
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: want to play, like cat Lady and Catherine, which are
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: disturbing games about women, but I want to play them.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: They're disturbing in the sense of like horror movies are.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: They're not right, but so if anyone has a suggestion,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: I do feel like I need to start chipping away
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: at my library. I did play because I've been traveling
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: more than I have traveled in a while. And I
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: bought my switch and I was playing Animal Crossing and
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: I did get some jokes aimed my way. But my
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Halloween party went great, so and I blame you, me,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: yes you. I did buy Spider Man two on a
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: on a whim, I think because I saw an ad
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: for it.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: I don't want to say, oh yeah, all right, I
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: gotta get it.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I can't wait for the holidays, even though I probably won't.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Play it all right.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I just feel like I do this all the time,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: or like I have to get it and then I
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: will never play it for like a year.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: But I've heard great things. So I've heard great things.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: H me too. Actually, yeah, well the ad was great.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Obviously it worked.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: This is how they get us.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: This is how they get us.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, help us, y'all, or'll be my friend on this
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: game if you're on that game and then give me things.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Yes, or if you have any suggestions. Oh yes, I
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: love this. I loved this so much. I can't wait
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: to talk to you off Mike more about it. Yes,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: but in the meantime, Yes, listeners, if you're playing anything,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: if you have any recommendations, Betty, thoughts about this, If
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: you're Deborah, come on, Deborah.
• 27:05
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