Latest / Beyond the Paw - Clemson Athletics / Ep. 54 - Cats, Conklin Field, and Building Clemson Lacrosse with Natalie Shurtleff
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- 0:03Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, Welcome back to another episode of Beyon the Pod.
- 0:06Speaker 1: Today we have a very special guest. We are joined
- 0:09Speaker 1: by junior midfielder Natalie shirt Left, a two time All
- 0:13Speaker 1: acc selection and one of the top players in the country.
- 0:16Speaker 1: Last season, she earned IWLCA second Team All American honors
- 0:20Speaker 1: along with All America thirteen recognition from both USA Lacrosse
- 0:24Speaker 1: Magazine and Nike Lacrosse Media, and was named to the
- 0:27Speaker 1: IWLCA All Regent South First Team. Welcome Natalie, Hi, happy
- 0:33Speaker 1: to be here.
- 0:34Speaker 2: There was a long list of accomplishments.
- 0:36Speaker 3: I know, how do you feel hearing it?
- 0:39Speaker 2: That's one of the first times I have so very nice.
- 0:41Speaker 1: In what You're a june junior junior.
- 0:44Speaker 2: Ye, but I'm graduating this year, so congratulations, thank you.
- 0:49Speaker 2: I'm getting it in April, I think April fourteenth, so
- 0:53Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to exciting. Yeah, I know. Do you
- 0:55Speaker 2: guys both have yours?
- 0:56Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a ride of passage. I feel like
- 0:58Speaker 1: you definitely have to get has to get it. I
- 1:00Speaker 1: got my master's just to get the ring.
- 1:02Speaker 2: Really, yes, okay, I feel like you wanted to be
- 1:05Speaker 2: a part of the Clemson All people come to Clemson
- 1:08Speaker 2: for the rink. Yeah, it's crazy in selling factor for me.
- 1:12Speaker 1: Yeah, and people like will recognize it in an airport.
- 1:15Speaker 1: I have like people come up to me and they're like,
- 1:16Speaker 1: oh my gosh, when did you graduate? You went to Clemson,
- 1:19Speaker 1: like so did I and they'll be wearing their ring too. Yeah,
- 1:21Speaker 1: it's actually crazy.
- 1:22Speaker 4: I guess such a cool connection network like tool pretty much.
- 1:27Speaker 2: Then I'm very excited to get it. Yeah, yeah, I
- 1:30Speaker 2: know I got the gold. Did you guys have silver
- 1:32Speaker 2: or gold?
- 1:33Speaker 3: Gold? Gold? Okay?
- 1:34Speaker 2: Antique finish Okay, I think that's what I got. So perfect.
- 1:37Speaker 2: Glad that we're on the same page.
- 1:38Speaker 1: Did you get it engraved with anything?
- 1:40Speaker 2: I think I did. I did my numbers and then
- 1:44Speaker 2: my number, so I love that. I'm excited and you're
- 1:46Speaker 2: number twenty seven. Is there any significance behind it? Not
- 1:51Speaker 2: at all?
- 1:51Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:51Speaker 2: No, I was thirteen growing up, and then I was like,
- 1:55Speaker 2: I want to two digit number odd and it was
- 1:58Speaker 2: the only one left.
- 1:59Speaker 3: So I was like, okay, and you got to Clemson.
- 2:01Speaker 1: H And what was now for thirteen when you were younger?
- 2:05Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 2:06Speaker 2: I mean I wasn't really a big Taylor Swift fan.
- 2:08Speaker 3: I am now.
- 2:10Speaker 2: Like everyone I went to an all girls school, so
- 2:12Speaker 2: I had to be a Taylor Swift fan. But it
- 2:15Speaker 2: was just my number, and I was like, okay, that's
- 2:17Speaker 2: what I am for everything now and until now, that's
- 2:22Speaker 2: what I really I love number thirteen. I would have
- 2:25Speaker 2: picked it at Clemson, but it was taken for Taylor
- 2:27Speaker 2: Swift or just no.
- 2:28Speaker 4: Well, my mom was thirteen where she played ball, so
- 2:31Speaker 4: that was like I wanted to follow her. And then
- 2:33Speaker 4: it was just like unlucky number thirteen, but like make
- 2:36Speaker 4: it lucky.
- 2:37Speaker 2: I don't know better reason than my changed the stigma
- 2:41Speaker 2: around the night. Right, That's what my thought was.
- 2:44Speaker 1: You said you went to an all girls private school
- 2:47Speaker 1: or yeah.
- 2:47Speaker 3: I did.
- 2:48Speaker 2: For high school, it was definitely interesting. Taylor Swift played often.
- 2:52Speaker 2: We had a lot of dance competitions, nice a good amount,
- 2:55Speaker 2: a lot of choreographed dancing, and it was awesome. I
- 2:59Speaker 2: loved it. It was only like ninety girls in my class.
- 3:01Speaker 2: I would go back if I goad. It was just
- 3:03Speaker 2: great just being in like small classrooms and everything.
- 3:06Speaker 1: But and you grew up in Maryland, correct, Yep, what's
- 3:09Speaker 1: the town called.
- 3:11Speaker 2: I live in Cockeysville now, but I used to grow
- 3:13Speaker 2: up in Howard County. I moved up there for high
- 3:15Speaker 2: school actually because I used to live like an hour
- 3:17Speaker 2: away from the high school I went to. And then
- 3:19Speaker 2: when my sister, of course went we decided, okay, well
- 3:21Speaker 2: now it's the time to move and we moved up
- 3:23Speaker 2: to Cockeysville and we've been there for I think four
- 3:25Speaker 2: years now. So nice.
- 3:27Speaker 4: Yeah, And Maryland is like the biggest lacrosse state ever, right,
- 3:31Speaker 4: Like that's like where the legacy forms.
- 3:34Speaker 2: It's a crazy place to grow up. I mean it's
- 3:36Speaker 2: very lacrosse focused, yeah, especially compared to down here. Just
- 3:40Speaker 2: I mean, anyone I talked to, they're like, we don't
- 3:42Speaker 2: understand anything going on out there. But we loved to
- 3:44Speaker 2: come out and support versus there. I think we probably
- 3:48Speaker 2: got as much as, if not more than football games
- 3:51Speaker 2: at my high school. So we had a boys school
- 3:53Speaker 2: right next to it, and I mean people just loved it.
- 3:56Speaker 2: It's such a big thing of the culture in Maryland.
- 3:59Speaker 1: Lacrosse is definitely an East Coast sport. I for sure,
- 4:02Speaker 1: I had not really heard much about it growing up
- 4:05Speaker 1: in West California.
- 4:07Speaker 6: Same in Midwest. Yeah, all have you enjoyed bringing it
- 4:10Speaker 6: down to the South, Yeah, I have it's really cute.
- 4:13Speaker 6: The little girls who play it.
- 4:14Speaker 2: It's just like such a niche sport, I guess down here,
- 4:16Speaker 2: so they really care about it. So it's nice seeing
- 4:19Speaker 2: how much they love it versus like in Maryland, it's like, Okay,
- 4:22Speaker 2: everyone plays, it's fine, but they have a different appreciation
- 4:25Speaker 2: for it down here, which is nice.
- 4:27Speaker 3: What age did you start playing?
- 4:29Speaker 2: I think six or seven, but my sister was laughing.
- 4:35Speaker 2: I'm not laughing My sister started playing at like five.
- 4:39Speaker 2: A lot of people like you started as soon as
- 4:41Speaker 2: you can walk and stuff. You just kind of are
- 4:42Speaker 2: playing for fun. Yeah, it's an intense environment. So you
- 4:47Speaker 2: said you have a sorry younger sister. Yeah, one younger sister.
- 4:50Speaker 2: She goes to Colby College. It's up in Maine, so
- 4:54Speaker 2: she really loves it up there. She's a freshman right
- 4:56Speaker 2: now and she plays lacrosse there too, so growing up
- 5:00Speaker 2: she's very competitive. I mean, you would think she's the
- 5:03Speaker 2: older sister by the way she acts. She's taller than me,
- 5:06Speaker 2: has dark hair. She Yeah, she's very confident. She scares
- 5:11Speaker 2: me sometimes, honestly, like I been to her will She's
- 5:14Speaker 2: like Natalie, I need this. When she she had MPFL surgery.
- 5:18Speaker 2: She had a bell in her room, a Natalie bell,
- 5:20Speaker 2: and I would run on in and get her whatever
- 5:21Speaker 2: she needed. No, yeah, she's a force of nature.
- 5:23Speaker 1: But so she doesn't ask you for any words of
- 5:27Speaker 1: wisdom or words of advice.
- 5:29Speaker 2: Honestly, no, I ask her more. Really, she's she's always
- 5:33Speaker 2: just been very mature. Even when she was a kid,
- 5:36Speaker 2: she grew early, she was very she's awesome.
- 5:39Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fun. Is it just the two of you,
- 5:41Speaker 3: just the.
- 5:42Speaker 2: Two of us? Yeah, and my parents, So it's nice.
- 5:44Speaker 2: Did your parents play any sports? My mom played basketball
- 5:50Speaker 2: and soccer and lacrosse, I think all of it. Like
- 5:53Speaker 2: a D three school in Maryland called College of Notre
- 5:58Speaker 2: Dame of Maryland, like an all women's school, so she
- 6:01Speaker 2: played there. And then my dad didn't play sports. But
- 6:03Speaker 2: they both really love working out, Like every time my
- 6:06Speaker 2: dad comes down here, he likes to do a nice
- 6:07Speaker 2: trail run. Loves his trail runs. And yeah, they've been great.
- 6:13Speaker 2: Are you a big runner?
- 6:14Speaker 4: I feel like lacrosse, you're like always moving around, kind
- 6:16Speaker 4: of like soccer. Similarly, do you like to run?
- 6:20Speaker 2: I wouldn't say I like to run, but if I
- 6:23Speaker 2: had to choose something, it would be running. I mean,
- 6:25Speaker 2: I don't really get the runners high as much anymore,
- 6:28Speaker 2: so it kind of takes a while, but I think
- 6:31Speaker 2: that's what I'm gonna do postgrad. What are you guys
- 6:33Speaker 2: gonna do for it? Like your post grad workouts?
- 6:35Speaker 1: Honestly, like, I've been really contemplating this question a while now.
- 6:40Speaker 1: I've been thinking about like crazy things like kickboxing I
- 6:43Speaker 1: heard is really good for cardio, so I wanted to
- 6:46Speaker 1: try that. I'm not a runner at all either, and
- 6:50Speaker 1: I don't I've never gotten a runners high, so I
- 6:53Speaker 1: have no I have no idea what that even feels like.
- 6:57Speaker 2: It's nice, Yeah, hopefully you get it kicked. Boxing, Yeah,
- 7:01Speaker 2: maybe boxing high.
- 7:02Speaker 1: Pilates to shout out Palate Social.
- 7:07Speaker 4: At that it's are so good at it because you
- 7:10Speaker 4: guys like Pike, like you're just so like naturally flexible
- 7:14Speaker 4: that like, yeah, just you make it look so easy.
- 7:16Speaker 1: I think the flexibility helps a lot, but still, don't
- 7:20Speaker 1: get it wrong, was really really hard. We did like
- 7:23Speaker 1: a tester class at Plate Social and I was able
- 7:27Speaker 1: to bring my team and they made it was supposed
- 7:31Speaker 1: to be a beginner class, but apparently they made the
- 7:33Speaker 1: class so much harder because they knew we were a
- 7:35Speaker 1: little bit more advanced than than normal beginner and I
- 7:39Speaker 1: was sweating.
- 7:40Speaker 2: So for like two weeks afterwards.
- 7:42Speaker 1: I don't know what I did, but it was, it
- 7:44Speaker 1: was it was very hard, so maybe that maybe you'll
- 7:47Speaker 1: get it? What about youumya?
- 7:48Speaker 2: I also really like plates.
- 7:50Speaker 4: I thought the same thing with reformer plates, like it's hard,
- 7:53Speaker 4: just like using different muscles than what you normally would.
- 7:56Speaker 4: And then I tried mat plates, which is like ten
- 7:58Speaker 4: times harder because it really a body weight. Yeah, like
- 8:01Speaker 4: you're just holding yourself up, you know, like on the
- 8:03Speaker 4: reformer you can like press on that.
- 8:05Speaker 2: Yeah, but like I don't know, it's just a.
- 8:07Speaker 4: Lot harder in my opinion. But I also like hot workouts,
- 8:11Speaker 4: so I like to sweat.
- 8:13Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that's my bad. What about you?
- 8:16Speaker 6: I mean it took me a long time. I feel
- 8:18Speaker 6: like still trying to adjust and figure out. And I'm
- 8:21Speaker 6: ten years out. But I went through hot yoga that
- 8:24Speaker 6: I went through like orange theory that I just now
- 8:27Speaker 6: got back into a regular weight room and I wanted
- 8:30Speaker 6: nothing to do with like a free weight room for
- 8:32Speaker 6: a long time, and you teach yoga.
- 8:34Speaker 3: I did.
- 8:34Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I did a class with you once.
- 8:37Speaker 1: Your voice is really smooth, snoothing. Thank you, Socome.
- 8:40Speaker 2: You do have a soothing voice. I've always thought that.
- 8:42Speaker 3: I enjoyed teaching it and it was fun to do
- 8:44Speaker 3: that too.
- 8:44Speaker 2: You never did a marathon, Absolutely not. I could have
- 8:47Speaker 2: seen you doing one.
- 8:47Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever ran more than three miles.
- 8:50Speaker 1: I want to try a marathon. Can't you walk it?
- 8:53Speaker 3: I don't. I like my knees.
- 8:55Speaker 1: Yeah, don't walk it.
- 8:56Speaker 2: I feel like that would make me actually break.
- 8:59Speaker 6: I think it's to all that people can do it,
- 9:00Speaker 6: and I want to be a runner. Like I've set
- 9:03Speaker 6: out and said I was going to do it and
- 9:05Speaker 6: then I just.
- 9:07Speaker 1: Couldn't. Yeah, I don't blame you. It's hard to get
- 9:09Speaker 1: yourself going. I feel like once you're there, then it
- 9:12Speaker 1: makes it so much easier. But it's hard to get started.
- 9:14Speaker 2: Now easier when you have a friend. I just need
- 9:16Speaker 2: to be distracted.
- 9:18Speaker 6: Like if you're running, you're just thinking about running, and
- 9:20Speaker 6: it's the same thing, and it's just you and your
- 9:22Speaker 6: thoughts or whatever's playing you and your thoughts heard.
- 9:25Speaker 4: If he's talking on the phone, Like when you run,
- 9:28Speaker 4: like it helps a lot because it helps I.
- 9:30Speaker 2: Want to listen and popping on the phone or podcasts.
- 9:35Speaker 2: I have a friend, Susan, she's on our team. She
- 9:37Speaker 2: does like ten mile runs for fun, half marathon like
- 9:40Speaker 2: mid season or not mid season and winter but she yeah,
- 9:45Speaker 2: she's insane.
- 9:47Speaker 1: Different to be on the paw right.
- 9:49Speaker 3: What a podcast to listen to on your friend?
- 9:52Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell her she's going to watch it. She
- 9:54Speaker 2: already does.
- 9:54Speaker 3: Probably good.
- 9:55Speaker 4: Yeah, So you're a midfielder, can you kind of explain,
- 9:58Speaker 4: you know, like you're still offensive, but kind of what
- 10:00Speaker 4: that means, you know, on the field.
- 10:02Speaker 2: So I'm a midfielder in the sense that I do
- 10:05Speaker 2: more attack wise that it used to originally be everyone
- 10:10Speaker 2: like a midfielder played attack and d but lately they
- 10:13Speaker 2: have run like run on players. So you come out,
- 10:16Speaker 2: a defender comes down, attacker comes on, and it's kind
- 10:19Speaker 2: of like you only play one side of the ball.
- 10:21Speaker 2: But you're a MIDI so I switched over more to
- 10:24Speaker 2: that role. I do the circle, which is where you know,
- 10:28Speaker 2: the ball goes up in the air and you try
- 10:29Speaker 2: and get it, and then I do attack and then occasionally,
- 10:33Speaker 2: if someone's tired, I go run over and do defense.
- 10:36Speaker 2: What does attacking entail in lacrosse. I dodge, which is,
- 10:43Speaker 2: you know, a little a little move, but I mainly
- 10:47Speaker 2: do like cutting and stuff. So I kind of just
- 10:49Speaker 2: run around in the middle and wait for everyone to
- 10:50Speaker 2: get distracted, and then I run to where I'm supposed
- 10:52Speaker 2: to be or where I want to be. But I
- 10:55Speaker 2: kind of just wander throughout the middle and just have fun.
- 10:57Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, you left me, Oh well, now you're here,
- 11:00Speaker 2: and then and.
- 11:01Speaker 3: Then you score.
- 11:02Speaker 2: I try to, yeah, to the lost of my ability.
- 11:04Speaker 2: Yes you do, not as much as some people do,
- 11:06Speaker 2: but I try my best. But there's like a lot
- 11:08Speaker 2: of strategy into like positioning. Then I guess, yeah, I
- 11:13Speaker 2: feel like most of the reason why I am able
- 11:15Speaker 2: to score is like the strategy part of it. I mean,
- 11:18Speaker 2: there's some girls who are just like so fast, and
- 11:19Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, insane, but yeah, I don't have that
- 11:24Speaker 2: exactly to the same ability. But it's a lot of
- 11:27Speaker 2: just like we have a lot of different sets. So
- 11:28Speaker 2: we have maybe three people high, three people low, and
- 11:31Speaker 2: you're gonna move this way, You're gonna do all these
- 11:33Speaker 2: different type of cuts and everything, and then it's it's
- 11:37Speaker 2: so much I can't even correctly explain it. It's it's
- 11:41Speaker 2: a lot. I feel like.
- 11:42Speaker 3: Lacrosse is so complex.
- 11:44Speaker 6: Yeah, like there's so many lines on the field, there's rules.
- 11:47Speaker 6: I've heard it's a combination of like basketball and soccer.
- 11:53Speaker 2: I mean I like to kind of just think of
- 11:54Speaker 2: it as hockey, especially in the sense of like how
- 11:57Speaker 2: like they like weave and stuff. But it's like hockey
- 12:01Speaker 2: plus soccer. Yeah, I think of it as hockey, but
- 12:05Speaker 2: like a lot of people.
- 12:06Speaker 1: So you can like shove people.
- 12:08Speaker 2: You can more in men's I get it easy. I
- 12:11Speaker 2: don't get quite as had as all of them do,
- 12:14Speaker 2: but yeah, you can definitely shove.
- 12:16Speaker 1: That's crazy. I was saying earlier. I feel like lacrosse
- 12:19Speaker 1: is like a gladiator sport. I feel like Natalie came
- 12:22Speaker 1: in with like a bruise on her arm a stick
- 12:25Speaker 1: what is that called a stickburn?
- 12:27Speaker 4: Oh?
- 12:27Speaker 2: Stickburn? I don't know if you know the correct term.
- 12:29Speaker 2: But yeah, like a girl happen. Yeah that's super fun.
- 12:33Speaker 2: It will heal up in a few days hopefully, so
- 12:35Speaker 2: it should be fun.
- 12:36Speaker 1: But yeah, what do all of like the lines on
- 12:38Speaker 1: the field mean.
- 12:40Speaker 2: Okay, so we have a little circle. You can't go
- 12:43Speaker 2: in that one for the goalies. We have the little
- 12:46Speaker 2: net in there. Then there's a huge box around the field,
- 12:49Speaker 2: not supposed to go outside of that one like in soccer.
- 12:52Speaker 2: And then we have another fun circle in the middle,
- 12:54Speaker 2: but it's a bigger circle, and that's for one purpose,
- 12:57Speaker 2: nothing else but that. It's just for the drawl for
- 12:59Speaker 2: the beginning of the game. Gotcha throw it up in
- 13:01Speaker 2: the air and you know, go get it, Yeah, go
- 13:04Speaker 2: get it. Gladiator sport. And then there's these restraining lines
- 13:09Speaker 2: similar to I guess what is the sport with the
- 13:15Speaker 2: restraining lines like US? Yeah, US sport. I guess it's
- 13:21Speaker 2: like half court and basketball. You're not supposed to go
- 13:25Speaker 2: over it once you go back, but for us it's
- 13:27Speaker 2: you're not supposed to go over it at all. So
- 13:29Speaker 2: you have two restraining lines, and then you have well
- 13:31Speaker 2: it's a lot now that I'm realizing, Okay, And then
- 13:33Speaker 2: you have an eight meter, and not only do you
- 13:35Speaker 2: have an eight meter, you have a twelve meter and
- 13:38Speaker 2: I don't even know why we have the twelve meter,
- 13:40Speaker 2: but it's there. And then the eight meter is the
- 13:43Speaker 2: one where if you get fouled, you get to set
- 13:45Speaker 2: up on it and get a free shot. But it's
- 13:47Speaker 2: not really a free shot. They're actually very hard to
- 13:49Speaker 2: make it.
- 13:50Speaker 1: Yeah, not like basketball, But can you walk me through
- 13:53Speaker 1: the mindset of how you get the ball in the
- 13:55Speaker 1: draw and do you call it a ball?
- 13:58Speaker 2: Yes, it is the ball. It's kind of so basically
- 14:02Speaker 2: you have the draw girls and the whole idea is
- 14:03Speaker 2: that they dig their sticks so like they have to
- 14:06Speaker 2: go under the ball first, and then they're chucking it
- 14:08Speaker 2: in the air as fast as they as they can,
- 14:10Speaker 2: so it's very like quick hand movement for them. And
- 14:13Speaker 2: then the girls on the circle. There's all these different
- 14:14Speaker 2: strategies and calls based off of where you are. So
- 14:17Speaker 2: like let's say we know the girl probably will go here,
- 14:20Speaker 2: like that's her favorite drawl to go to. Maybe we'll
- 14:22Speaker 2: set up there and we'll set up where our favorite
- 14:25Speaker 2: girl's draws or like something like that. And then it
- 14:28Speaker 2: goes up in the air and you're pretty much just
- 14:30Speaker 2: the first thing is you want to box out the
- 14:31Speaker 2: girl near you, so you just kind of hit her
- 14:33Speaker 2: around the way so you can be the first to
- 14:35Speaker 2: get to the ball and then kind of just lucky
- 14:38Speaker 2: the drawer if it bounces your way or not. I mean,
- 14:40Speaker 2: you can't really control much on the drawer besides trying
- 14:43Speaker 2: to get in the best position you can.
- 14:44Speaker 1: So who is the team that's throwing the ball? Can
- 14:47Speaker 1: you decide?
- 14:48Speaker 2: Whereas for us, like the girl who's like throwing it
- 14:50Speaker 2: in there, we have Kara baylists, so she does it.
- 14:53Speaker 2: We have a draw specialist, so she does every drawer
- 14:56Speaker 2: and she pretty much is just like she runs out there,
- 14:58Speaker 2: does the draw and then heads off the field and
- 15:01Speaker 2: does it every single time. And it's a lot of work.
- 15:03Speaker 2: She like all of us are playing, she's over on
- 15:05Speaker 2: the sidelines doing like hand strengthening drills and stuff. Oh wow,
- 15:08Speaker 2: that's cool. I feel like that'd be really hard. Yeah, Like,
- 15:11Speaker 2: i'munn't do it. I was gonna have to be taught
- 15:13Speaker 2: if we didn't find more draw takers. My I think
- 15:16Speaker 2: freshman year so very thankful because I didn't know what
- 15:21Speaker 2: to do.
- 15:22Speaker 3: Why didn't you want to do it.
- 15:24Speaker 2: It's already a lot doing the defense and the attack
- 15:27Speaker 2: and all that. I don't know if I could add
- 15:28Speaker 2: another thing to learn. Yeah, it's a little bit too
- 15:33Speaker 2: much for me. But it's like a new skill, you know,
- 15:36Speaker 2: not my not my four session.
- 15:39Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 15:39Speaker 4: Yeah, So then she would run off the field and
- 15:42Speaker 4: then that's.
- 15:43Speaker 2: Like that's her position. That's her position right now.
- 15:45Speaker 3: So cool.
- 15:46Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't originally have it as a position when
- 15:48Speaker 2: I started playing, they kind of it became a position
- 15:50Speaker 2: I would say, in like the that past five years
- 15:52Speaker 2: because it was the thing in the men's side. And
- 15:54Speaker 2: then now we have phocos, which is like I don't
- 15:56Speaker 2: even actually know what it means.
- 15:57Speaker 1: But is actually the only position that she plays.
- 16:01Speaker 2: M A lot of them do two ways, and Kira
- 16:03Speaker 2: sometimes does two ways too, but just because it's such
- 16:06Speaker 2: like a it's like you want to protect your quarterback,
- 16:08Speaker 2: like you don't want them doing anything else, Like you
- 16:09Speaker 2: just have them do the draw because it's such an
- 16:12Speaker 2: important part of the game. Yeah, we protect your practice
- 16:15Speaker 2: like a different stick than too.
- 16:17Speaker 1: There's such like a question the game. You would never
- 16:19Speaker 1: think that there's like a specific player for that specific
- 16:22Speaker 1: job and they only do that job yecause it's so quick.
- 16:25Speaker 2: No, it's very fast, and it's all like based off
- 16:27Speaker 2: of reflexes and stuff, and she's so fast so it's
- 16:29Speaker 2: easy for her. But yeah, she practices that all the time.
- 16:32Speaker 2: And then we have special sticks that are strong a
- 16:34Speaker 2: different way for it, and it's kind of like throughout
- 16:37Speaker 2: all of the woman's lacrosse. They've spread, like I don't
- 16:40Speaker 2: know they I'm not even gonna try to explain it.
- 16:43Speaker 2: They have different like pockets, but yeah, it's nice.
- 16:47Speaker 1: Do you guys have like sticky stuff that you can
- 16:50Speaker 1: use to like hold the sticks?
- 16:53Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe what if you like.
- 16:56Speaker 1: Let go of one of the sticks one time, well.
- 16:58Speaker 2: When it's kind of wet, sometimes you can. Usually what
- 17:01Speaker 2: people do is they tape their stick. You'll just like
- 17:03Speaker 2: put tape on it just so you have the friction
- 17:05Speaker 2: stuff on your hand. But I actually don't know if
- 17:08Speaker 2: we can use like anything. Is that what you guys
- 17:12Speaker 2: do to hold the bars?
- 17:13Speaker 1: No, not or like bars, but like when you use
- 17:15Speaker 1: it on the un vault vault okay, yeah, we use
- 17:18Speaker 1: this thing called like attack ten and it's like basically
- 17:20Speaker 1: I don't know, it's almost like honey filled or honey
- 17:24Speaker 1: instilled within the mat or something, and so it just
- 17:28Speaker 1: makes us makes our hands stick to the ball rather
- 17:31Speaker 1: than like slip, and it's like okay, yeah, it's leather,
- 17:35Speaker 1: so it's yeah, and if you're sweaty, you can.
- 17:37Speaker 2: You know, it's the same thing for us, like some
- 17:39Speaker 2: girls use like tennis tape on the top of their
- 17:41Speaker 2: stick to their drawl takers to like help it go
- 17:43Speaker 2: up so they don't lose grip, and then tape is
- 17:46Speaker 2: the most common one. People just use that.
- 17:48Speaker 1: So it's like kind of like a tennis racket. Yeah,
- 17:50Speaker 1: pretty much like a tennis racket.
- 17:51Speaker 2: We're just stealing from other sports at this point, it's
- 17:53Speaker 2: not really it's a very unique combo.
- 17:56Speaker 1: Gotcha. So you were here in twenty twenty three. How
- 17:59Speaker 1: has it been starting a new team, a new lacrosse team.
- 18:03Speaker 2: It's been interesting. I mean, for sure, I didn't really know.
- 18:07Speaker 2: I just was like, oh, cool school, very fun, and
- 18:09Speaker 2: then coming in, like we practiced at a different facility
- 18:12Speaker 2: in my freshman year and that was weird, and you
- 18:14Speaker 2: don't think it's weird, but once you compare your experiences
- 18:17Speaker 2: to other people who were like, wow, I had such
- 18:19Speaker 2: a different experience. But it's been really nice. I love
- 18:21Speaker 2: all the coaches, they're great, and I loved getting to
- 18:25Speaker 2: build it with my teammates and just kind of very
- 18:27Speaker 2: much like building my own life here because there really
- 18:30Speaker 2: isn't any precedent, so it's like I get to choose
- 18:32Speaker 2: what I want to do, what I think would be
- 18:34Speaker 2: a good idea and there's a lot of great leadership
- 18:38Speaker 2: qualities coming from it. I mean, you're learning a lot
- 18:41Speaker 2: just by dealing with so many different people who all
- 18:42Speaker 2: don't know each other, especially when it was a ton
- 18:46Speaker 2: of transfers. Yeah, it was just like, Wow, these are
- 18:49Speaker 2: thirty girls I've never met before, and now we're all
- 18:52Speaker 2: going to be best friends. So it's gonna be fun. Yeah.
- 18:55Speaker 1: What was the number one thing that stuck out to
- 18:57Speaker 1: you about playing for Alison and your coaching staff?
- 19:01Speaker 2: I think for me, I just wanted someone who's calm.
- 19:03Speaker 2: I really don't like being yelled at. So when we
- 19:06Speaker 2: were getting recruited, everyone said she was calm. She has
- 19:09Speaker 2: a very monotone voice, she's very you know, just together
- 19:14Speaker 2: all the time. So that's kind of what for me
- 19:17Speaker 2: stock out. And then she also was just very nice
- 19:19Speaker 2: and had it together.
- 19:20Speaker 6: So yeah, what else about Clemson made you want to
- 19:23Speaker 6: come here? Because you didn't have the facility at the time?
- 19:26Speaker 2: No, I mean, honestly, it wasn't really even the facility.
- 19:29Speaker 3: For me.
- 19:29Speaker 2: Part of what stuck out was I had gone to
- 19:32Speaker 2: other places, and I'd gone to one school and basically
- 19:36Speaker 2: it was like this huge, nice stadium and when my
- 19:39Speaker 2: dad said to me, it was like, well, like just
- 19:41Speaker 2: so you know, like it's not gonna be full, like
- 19:43Speaker 2: we're in I'm not gonna say the place, but like
- 19:46Speaker 2: people aren't gonna come to the games. And then versus
- 19:48Speaker 2: when I came here and it was kind of like
- 19:50Speaker 2: I knew the stands would be full, there'd be people watching,
- 19:54Speaker 2: there'd be people who actually cared about it. So for me,
- 19:57Speaker 2: that was one thing that really stood out for Clemson
- 19:59Speaker 2: cause I think it's just o rare, like lacrosse is
- 20:01Speaker 2: not the most known sport in the world to have
- 20:04Speaker 2: and especially as a woman sport, to have that come
- 20:07Speaker 2: up and just be able to have such an environment.
- 20:09Speaker 2: So that for me was something that stuck out.
- 20:11Speaker 3: But yeah, gets so cool.
- 20:14Speaker 1: Yeah, fans will definitely be there, ye sports.
- 20:17Speaker 6: Even just knowing like how full you're I mean all
- 20:20Speaker 6: three of you, like Gerby gets packed, Gymnastics your stadium,
- 20:24Speaker 6: and then when I'll watch you all play online like
- 20:27Speaker 6: at another place, I'm like, oh wait, it's not the same.
- 20:30Speaker 6: Especially at gymnastics meetings, I'm like where is everyone at
- 20:32Speaker 6: these other pieces?
- 20:34Speaker 1: It's so packed And it's crazy too because some of
- 20:36Speaker 1: these schools are so highly ranked, and you would expect
- 20:39Speaker 1: them to have fans that come out and support them,
- 20:42Speaker 1: like a lot of fans like we do have here
- 20:44Speaker 1: at Clemson, and it's just empty.
- 20:46Speaker 3: Yeah, so special at Clemson.
- 20:49Speaker 4: Yeah, so you've been pretty much a starter since your
- 20:52Speaker 4: freshman year you got here, you kind of took on
- 20:54Speaker 4: that leadership role immediately. What has it been like to,
- 20:57Speaker 4: you know, build the program and build the culture, like
- 21:00Speaker 4: there was no tradition before you got to start from scratch.
- 21:03Speaker 5: Yep.
- 21:04Speaker 2: Well, I mean there had been one year before, so
- 21:06Speaker 2: they kind of had some stuff set. But I think
- 21:09Speaker 2: from like a field sense of like being on the field,
- 21:11Speaker 2: it was very interesting being a freshman and having to
- 21:15Speaker 2: take on such a role and take on big moments.
- 21:18Speaker 2: It's just very stressful. So I think having a lot
- 21:21Speaker 2: of empathy now for the freshmen who are going through
- 21:23Speaker 2: it as we speak, like all of them are getting
- 21:26Speaker 2: the brunt of it. But it was nice. I mean,
- 21:29Speaker 2: we had a lot of support as a freshman class.
- 21:31Speaker 2: There was a lot of us playing, so it wasn't
- 21:33Speaker 2: like it was really just one of us. So I
- 21:35Speaker 2: think we all were able to set the precedent of
- 21:37Speaker 2: just having not really age based you have to do this.
- 21:42Speaker 2: You have to do that in terms of like on
- 21:43Speaker 2: the field on stuff because very much like everyone's going
- 21:46Speaker 2: to communicate with each other, everyone wants us to win.
- 21:48Speaker 2: Kind of just having an open dialogue on the field
- 21:50Speaker 2: was really helpful.
- 21:51Speaker 4: That's so cool and so important because like the worst
- 21:55Speaker 4: is when it's like seniors making freshmen, you know, getting
- 21:59Speaker 4: on them own. But like when it's a team full
- 22:01Speaker 4: of leaders and like you all want the same thing,
- 22:03Speaker 4: you're all on the same page. I feel like that's
- 22:05Speaker 4: what makes a great team in great culture.
- 22:08Speaker 3: That's really cool.
- 22:10Speaker 6: What do you think are some of the traditions that
- 22:11Speaker 6: you all have started because you came in, I mean
- 22:14Speaker 6: one year in, but nothing was really set. You can
- 22:17Speaker 6: kind of set the culture set what it means to
- 22:19Speaker 6: be Clemson lacross.
- 22:20Speaker 2: Well, we do letters, which is something we all write
- 22:23Speaker 2: each other game day, like hype up letters. So you
- 22:25Speaker 2: get every game secret Psych. Yeah, for every game.
- 22:27Speaker 3: That's cool.
- 22:28Speaker 1: Do you get like assigned a person or it's to
- 22:30Speaker 1: whoever you are.
- 22:30Speaker 2: Yeah, CALLI and Cam. I don't know if you seen that.
- 22:33Speaker 2: They take care of it. Yeah, secret Psych.
- 22:34Speaker 3: I love that.
- 22:35Speaker 2: Yeah, you get some fun little letters you never know
- 22:37Speaker 2: who you're gonna get. Everyone ends up like saying who
- 22:39Speaker 2: they got obviously because we can't keep a secret a
- 22:43Speaker 2: thirty two women. But yeah, it's fun. And then we
- 22:46Speaker 2: do scavenger hunt. We all like do that around town.
- 22:49Speaker 2: It's really super fun. And we have little dance parties
- 22:53Speaker 2: ahead of the games, which is super fun, and we
- 22:56Speaker 2: all just have fun together. I don't know if you
- 22:58Speaker 2: guys do that for your sports, you do right, like
- 23:01Speaker 2: damm it in the locker room. Yeah, I know. We
- 23:02Speaker 2: didn't really do that as much my freshman year, so
- 23:05Speaker 2: like to see it kind of flourish from then. And
- 23:07Speaker 2: we've had a lot of people from other schools bring
- 23:09Speaker 2: a lot of great things to the program, so it's
- 23:11Speaker 2: not like we're just like, Okay, a bunch of freshmen
- 23:13Speaker 2: being like this would sound like a good idea. We
- 23:15Speaker 2: have people coming from other places like Cornell especially, like
- 23:18Speaker 2: they had a lot of great traditions and we're able
- 23:20Speaker 2: to like kind of steal some of those. So it's nice, awesome.
- 23:23Speaker 2: It's like a melting pot. Yeah, like the sport comeson
- 23:26Speaker 2: is a melting pot. It's great.
- 23:28Speaker 4: Yeah, So you're like halfway would you say, halfway through
- 23:31Speaker 4: your season or a little bit under, a little bit over,
- 23:33Speaker 4: actually over. Okay, so you guys played Watford last night,
- 23:37Speaker 4: got the win.
- 23:38Speaker 3: Yep, it was good.
- 23:39Speaker 4: How do you feel like this season as a whole
- 23:41Speaker 4: is going so far? I think it's going good.
- 23:43Speaker 2: We started out really strong in terms of the teams
- 23:45Speaker 2: we were playing a lot of like every team we
- 23:48Speaker 2: played for the first few weeks was top ten.
- 23:50Speaker 4: Yeah, well accs, Yeah, the ACC is crazy for lacrosse.
- 23:54Speaker 2: We had a big opening day in Stanford. I thought
- 23:57Speaker 2: we did really well there, and then since then we've
- 23:59Speaker 2: kind of just been trying to find our footing. We
- 24:01Speaker 2: had a lot of away games and a lot of
- 24:02Speaker 2: things back and forth and I think get really tiring.
- 24:05Speaker 2: So I think we kind of in the past few
- 24:08Speaker 2: weeks have come to sort of like a Okay, we
- 24:11Speaker 2: got to rise above this. And I think in the
- 24:13Speaker 2: past week or so, I've seen a lot of positive
- 24:15Speaker 2: change on the team. I think we're all very much
- 24:18Speaker 2: ready for like, let's get these next few games, let's
- 24:21Speaker 2: beat the teams who need to beat upcoming, and then
- 24:23Speaker 2: get into postseason play.
- 24:24Speaker 1: So you don't want to be to speak in the
- 24:26Speaker 1: middle of season. You want to peak in ac.
- 24:29Speaker 2: I think hopefully we're on the track to peak postseason,
- 24:32Speaker 2: so fingers crossed.
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- 25:04Speaker 3: Now back to the show.
- 25:06Speaker 1: Can you walk me through that game against Notre Dame
- 25:10Speaker 1: top ten team? Going against them? How did you guys
- 25:13Speaker 1: feel going into it? Obviously the outcome was amazing and
- 25:17Speaker 1: you guys won, congratulations, But just walked me through that
- 25:20Speaker 1: process for you.
- 25:22Speaker 2: Let's see. So we definitely prepped for it as much
- 25:24Speaker 2: as we possibly could. We had I think five whole
- 25:27Speaker 2: days of prep for that one, which was nice. So
- 25:30Speaker 2: scout team did an amazing job. They really prepped us.
- 25:33Speaker 2: We have like the best scout team in the world.
- 25:35Speaker 2: They do so well. So they all learned their offense,
- 25:38Speaker 2: learned their defense for us, and then did it, and
- 25:41Speaker 2: then I think we just really knew we wanted to
- 25:43Speaker 2: go in winning. Anyone who's been there since my freshman
- 25:47Speaker 2: year remembers when they came here and played us and
- 25:49Speaker 2: it was like a rain and out game and we
- 25:51Speaker 2: ended up losing and I think second overtime. So we
- 25:54Speaker 2: definitely have a one we really want to win every
- 25:58Speaker 2: time we play them, because that was a painful and
- 26:00Speaker 2: then we were able to beat him next year. I
- 26:02Speaker 2: think it was our first big win of last year,
- 26:04Speaker 2: at least to my memory, and so we always are
- 26:07Speaker 2: really excited to play them. It's a competitive game. I
- 26:09Speaker 2: feel like we match up really well against them, and
- 26:11Speaker 2: they're really great. So yeah, we just prepped all week
- 26:14Speaker 2: and we all were really excited and it was Saint
- 26:16Speaker 2: Patrick's day.
- 26:20Speaker 1: Fighting Irish on Saint Patrick's Day.
- 26:22Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah, I think so. So, yeah, yeah, that's amazing.
- 26:27Speaker 1: Talk to me about like a game going into overtime.
- 26:30Speaker 1: What does that entail? Because you guys went into overtime
- 26:32Speaker 1: against Pitt, right, I think.
- 26:35Speaker 2: Not against Pitt. My freshman year, we went to overtime
- 26:37Speaker 2: against Pitt. I don't know.
- 26:40Speaker 3: Who.
- 26:40Speaker 2: I don't know if we went into overtime this year yet,
- 26:42Speaker 2: hopefully like your freshman year talk about Okay, so freshman year,
- 26:46Speaker 2: it was so you pretty much you're both tied at
- 26:48Speaker 2: the end of the game, and then you restart with
- 26:50Speaker 2: a drawl. It's two minds of play pretty much kind
- 26:53Speaker 2: of like soccer type of like thing, and it's first
- 26:57Speaker 2: to score.
- 26:59Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no like set amount of time.
- 27:02Speaker 2: Two minutes. Yeah, two minutes to score, and then if
- 27:04Speaker 2: you don't, then you go again, and you go again
- 27:07Speaker 2: and again and again. It's like the longest overtime you've
- 27:10Speaker 2: gone or I think is they're a cap you shually.
- 27:14Speaker 2: I think it's I don't know. Actually, wait, I might
- 27:17Speaker 2: be wrong. We've last time. Okay, we scored two minutes in.
- 27:21Speaker 2: It's ten minutes. Okay everyone everyone, Yeah, no, that was
- 27:24Speaker 2: my bad overtime. We scored two minutes in and it
- 27:27Speaker 2: was a big deal. But yes, it's ten minutes overtime. Yeah,
- 27:31Speaker 2: my bad on the sport, I'm really bad with this.
- 27:34Speaker 2: I just out there, Yeah, I just go out there
- 27:36Speaker 2: and play.
- 27:36Speaker 1: Yeah, I yeah, what happened? If you go past the
- 27:40Speaker 1: ten minutes and no one has scored, you go again.
- 27:43Speaker 6: Yes, oh wow, but after you scored in two minutes,
- 27:45Speaker 6: it was just over because you scored.
- 27:46Speaker 2: Well, that was toking me. The second overtime against pet
- 27:49Speaker 2: I think, gosh, my memory is so bad. I honestly
- 27:53Speaker 2: to be. You don't ask me about lacrosse when I'm playing.
- 27:55Speaker 2: I bought it, like I be there.
- 27:57Speaker 1: I did ask you a question from your freshman year.
- 27:59Speaker 2: No, you could ask me about Notre Dame this year.
- 28:02Speaker 2: I was just out there running around. I kind of
- 28:05Speaker 2: it's like where I just kind of don't. I don't
- 28:08Speaker 2: think at all when I'm out there, so I like that.
- 28:10Speaker 3: But it's free.
- 28:10Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nice.
- 28:12Speaker 1: Talk to us about your facility too, and what's in there.
- 28:17Speaker 2: Well, it's very nice. It's woman's only, woman's only facility,
- 28:21Speaker 2: which is really great, not having to share it with anyone.
- 28:24Speaker 2: And we have our locker room just beautiful.
- 28:28Speaker 1: I see like videos on my TikTok of you guys
- 28:30Speaker 1: like doing tiktoks in the locker room or even in
- 28:32Speaker 1: the lobby with like the lights the ways.
- 28:35Speaker 2: Yeah, it's huge, it's huge. It's way too big. I
- 28:38Speaker 2: mean it feels more homie the more I've been in it.
- 28:41Speaker 2: But I still remember the first time I walked in
- 28:43Speaker 2: and I was like, oh my gosh, how are we
- 28:45Speaker 2: how are we affording this? But we are and it's beautiful.
- 28:49Speaker 2: We have our own kitchen, our own lounge area, and
- 28:52Speaker 2: then the training room's amazing. I manic our athletic trainer
- 28:56Speaker 2: keeps it very clean and nice, so we all love it.
- 28:58Speaker 3: In the views, yeah, yeah, that's anything.
- 29:02Speaker 2: No, it's awesome. And we're right next to the arc too,
- 29:04Speaker 2: so yeah, the athlete Recovery Center, so we get to
- 29:06Speaker 2: like go over there all the.
- 29:07Speaker 4: Time, and you can go on the dikes, go to
- 29:10Speaker 4: the lake, like it's literally everything right there.
- 29:12Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 29:12Speaker 2: I know you guys have the same luck. Your facility
- 29:16Speaker 2: is cooler, though.
- 29:16Speaker 1: You have to Why do you say that.
- 29:19Speaker 2: You have like a pit you can jump into? Yeah,
- 29:22Speaker 2: that is true.
- 29:23Speaker 1: You have a trampoline going into a pit.
- 29:26Speaker 3: Is that as fun for you as other people would think.
- 29:28Speaker 1: You not at all? Because things get lost in the
- 29:32Speaker 1: pit when you go in the pit, Like if you
- 29:34Speaker 1: have socks on, they're gone. You lose things very easy.
- 29:38Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 29:39Speaker 1: It's very hard to get out of the pit too,
- 29:41Speaker 1: because the way that we flip, it's with so much
- 29:44Speaker 1: force and so much energy, So we go a lot
- 29:47Speaker 1: deeper than like the average person in the dip too,
- 29:49Speaker 1: so that means you have a lot more to climb
- 29:51Speaker 1: out of. And it's a workout in and of itself
- 29:55Speaker 1: getting out of the pit. Like sometimes I'll have one
- 29:57Speaker 1: of my coaches, Luke, like, hand me a stick, a
- 30:00Speaker 1: long stick, so pull me out, because it's harder than
- 30:05Speaker 1: the skill we're doing itself to get out of the pit.
- 30:07Speaker 2: So and you're sore, you're tired, you're like, please give
- 30:10Speaker 2: me out.
- 30:10Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fun for like other people to come experience
- 30:13Speaker 1: it and like watch them experience it and watch them
- 30:15Speaker 1: see how hard it is to get out.
- 30:18Speaker 2: But I mean I went in it once and it
- 30:20Speaker 2: was really fun. I really liked it. We practiced charges
- 30:23Speaker 2: in there. Yeah that's awesome, practice heading into each other
- 30:28Speaker 2: and falling. I remember seeing a video of that. Yes,
- 30:30Speaker 2: it was amazing.
- 30:31Speaker 1: And you guys, we have spin bikes in our gym too.
- 30:35Speaker 2: Less fun, yeah, not falling into sure we share though, yeah,
- 30:42Speaker 2: yeah you can keep them. Yeah we don't need them.
- 30:45Speaker 1: And then your field was just renamed to Conklin Field
- 30:50Speaker 1: right by Dep Conklin. Thank you Clempson alumni. But she
- 30:56Speaker 1: made like a one gift. So she gave two point
- 30:59Speaker 1: five million to women's sports and then two point five
- 31:02Speaker 1: million to Clemson alumni.
- 31:05Speaker 3: Too, So incredible.
- 31:06Speaker 1: That's insane the investment in women's sports. Let's talk about it.
- 31:10Speaker 3: Let's good.
- 31:10Speaker 2: I know, great timing, march dep conre. She's really representing
- 31:14Speaker 2: we have. We're actually getting to all meter this Friday
- 31:17Speaker 2: at the ceremony for the field, so I'm really excited
- 31:21Speaker 2: we all get to say thanks, because it's really big
- 31:23Speaker 2: that she's helping us out. We're excited. Yeah, it's a huge,
- 31:27Speaker 2: huge thing, huge deal.
- 31:28Speaker 1: And something that I feel is very special to Clemson.
- 31:32Speaker 1: I don't see a lot of people investing in women's
- 31:34Speaker 1: sports at other universities, so it's very cool.
- 31:38Speaker 2: We're all very lucky, so cool.
- 31:40Speaker 3: So I just think it's so cool too.
- 31:41Speaker 6: I mean want deb Conklin to be able to make
- 31:43Speaker 6: that gift, but to invest it in Clemson in women's sports,
- 31:46Speaker 6: but also have a facility and see the person that
- 31:50Speaker 6: it's named after.
- 31:51Speaker 3: Now you're calling it, you know, Conklin Field, and.
- 31:53Speaker 6: I just there's so many sporting venues that have a
- 31:56Speaker 6: name that you don't always know the history or you're
- 31:58Speaker 6: not really sure who the person is. Cool that we
- 32:00Speaker 6: get to see it in real time and there's this
- 32:02Speaker 6: real person that's investing.
- 32:04Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 32:04Speaker 2: I've never known any of the facilities I've played on
- 32:07Speaker 2: except this one. Yeah, conklin Field's so I'm excited. Yeah,
- 32:11Speaker 2: and we have a big ceremony I think for Virginia
- 32:13Speaker 2: Tech too. So if you guys want to come this Saturday,
- 32:18Speaker 2: This Saturday, is it?
- 32:21Speaker 1: There's there's a spring game this Saturday too.
- 32:23Speaker 2: Yes, but there's also conklin Field. Yeah, well Clemson will
- 32:27Speaker 2: be busy.
- 32:28Speaker 6: Yeah, you can just have your own say in the
- 32:30Speaker 6: spring is the best? Can just come to campus and
- 32:33Speaker 6: there's like three in sports.
- 32:35Speaker 3: All right here.
- 32:36Speaker 2: It's like you could go to softball, baseball, across football.
- 32:41Speaker 3: So cool.
- 32:41Speaker 1: Are you guys able to hit up any other Clemson
- 32:43Speaker 1: sports during the spring or two?
- 32:46Speaker 2: We are, but honestly not as much as we would like.
- 32:50Speaker 2: I feel like rowing is very hard to make it
- 32:52Speaker 2: out too. I've been to I think one baseball game,
- 32:56Speaker 2: But honestly, I'm not really a big sports person. Do
- 32:59Speaker 2: you play I do? I do play a sport. I
- 33:01Speaker 2: don't really love watching sports, okay, I kind of you know,
- 33:05Speaker 2: I don't even like watching the cross. Really, I just
- 33:07Speaker 2: do it to play it. I just play it. I'm
- 33:09Speaker 2: not really good at sitting still and just like doing
- 33:11Speaker 2: something like I have to be.
- 33:12Speaker 3: Like taking it.
- 33:13Speaker 2: Yeah, I play it.
- 33:14Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 33:14Speaker 2: It stresses me out too much because like I can
- 33:16Speaker 2: relate to it, Like if I'm watching football or something,
- 33:18Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my gosh, I have to hold on
- 33:20Speaker 2: to someone. It's just it's bad I can't watch sports.
- 33:23Speaker 3: What do you like to do that in your free time?
- 33:26Speaker 2: I like, I like to do other work for school.
- 33:29Speaker 2: I like I like reading. I like spending time with
- 33:31Speaker 2: my cat. I love my cat. I do his name,
- 33:34Speaker 2: cat's name. His name is Theodore.
- 33:36Speaker 3: I have to be the like number one pet in
- 33:40Speaker 3: this podcast.
- 33:41Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to givince you to get one.
- 33:42Speaker 3: It's not gonna happen, but I support the cat.
- 33:46Speaker 2: Well, tell your husband what I told you.
- 33:48Speaker 4: I mean, seriously, cats are awesome if you don't have
- 33:52Speaker 4: time to like walk.
- 33:53Speaker 2: A dog or like, they're just so easy that you can.
- 33:57Speaker 2: I know, he's super priflege. Yeah, I give him porch time.
- 34:00Speaker 2: He loves his porch outside cat or inside cat inside.
- 34:04Speaker 2: Obviously outside's very dangerous world. He's not allowed out there. No,
- 34:09Speaker 2: he escaped one time. I about had a heart attack.
- 34:11Speaker 3: It.
- 34:11Speaker 2: It's terrible. Never again, I told him he's never allowed outside.
- 34:15Speaker 2: He's gonna be like for Punzel in the castle. He'll
- 34:17Speaker 2: he'll live the rest of his days inside. And he's
- 34:19Speaker 2: content with that.
- 34:20Speaker 1: But I wonder about like stray counts and cats and
- 34:23Speaker 1: like outside cats.
- 34:24Speaker 2: Oh, I feed them all the time.
- 34:26Speaker 1: Yeah, but they survive.
- 34:27Speaker 3: I don't know how.
- 34:29Speaker 2: I really don't because of good Smaritan's like me, yeah.
- 34:33Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, but you are a really good student, and
- 34:38Speaker 6: you want to be someone that makes a big difference
- 34:40Speaker 6: in the world through healthcare.
- 34:43Speaker 3: Talk to us about that.
- 34:44Speaker 2: Well, I really want to be a physician, hopefully going
- 34:48Speaker 2: to something with pain management and stuff. I do a
- 34:50Speaker 2: lot of work in the addiction space right now, which
- 34:52Speaker 2: I really enjoy. It's just a population that of people
- 34:56Speaker 2: who very much are in need of that, but also
- 35:00Speaker 2: need someone who would listen and stuff. So it really
- 35:02Speaker 2: combines a lot of the things I enjoy hearing people's stories.
- 35:06Speaker 2: And then I took my own cat. Actually two days
- 35:09Speaker 2: after I lost my cat, and it was I about
- 35:11Speaker 2: I almost canceled it. Honestly, when I lost him, but yeah, Theodore,
- 35:16Speaker 2: it was panicky. But I applied this spring for medical
- 35:21Speaker 2: school and now next year I'm doing a master's in
- 35:24Speaker 2: health research. So I'm really excited. Cool congratulation. Yeah, yeah,
- 35:28Speaker 2: I'm really excited. I'm lucky Clemson let me take my major,
- 35:31Speaker 2: because a lot of schools, at least a lot of
- 35:34Speaker 2: the better schools, don't let you actually take the majors
- 35:37Speaker 2: you want, like you can't have labs. So it's nice
- 35:39Speaker 2: that I got to do that.
- 35:40Speaker 3: What is your major?
- 35:41Speaker 2: Health Science? Yeah, it's fun. I really like it.
- 35:45Speaker 1: What is the difference between why or why did you
- 35:48Speaker 1: choose health science rather than like a biology or a
- 35:52Speaker 1: chemistry or like something like that.
- 35:54Speaker 2: I think I much more in like being involved with people.
- 35:58Speaker 2: Health science is much more public health based and like
- 36:02Speaker 2: into hearing people's stories helping larger populations. So for me,
- 36:06Speaker 2: I love my major and I love being able to
- 36:08Speaker 2: work with people and hear their stories. And it just
- 36:10Speaker 2: combines a lot of the science of what you know
- 36:13Speaker 2: and stuff with also like anecdotal stories, so it's like
- 36:17Speaker 2: a lot of like quantitative research, but then you also
- 36:19Speaker 2: get to back it up with qualitative like hearing people
- 36:21Speaker 2: what they're saying and stuff. So it just offers a
- 36:24Speaker 2: lot of depth into what you're doing. And I feel
- 36:27Speaker 2: like it just adds a different approach to understanding people
- 36:30Speaker 2: and understanding healthcare. That is nice. I like it a lot.
- 36:33Speaker 6: Yeah, what would your dream path be? So obviously get
- 36:36Speaker 6: your masters playing, go to med school? What does that
- 36:40Speaker 6: look like?
- 36:40Speaker 3: And then what comes after med school?
- 36:42Speaker 2: Well, it's a long path, yes, lots of school. Yeah,
- 36:46Speaker 2: hopefully I will get into a medical school. I think
- 36:50Speaker 2: hopefully in the East Coast, maybe near Boston, which is
- 36:53Speaker 2: where we're going for the power trip this year. Yeah,
- 36:56Speaker 2: and then after that it would be a four year
- 37:00Speaker 2: STIJA residency and then a one year addiction or a
- 37:06Speaker 2: one year pain management fellowship, depending on which path I
- 37:09Speaker 2: go into.
- 37:10Speaker 1: So you know what's been coming on my feed recently?
- 37:14Speaker 1: Is the match day?
- 37:16Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it just happened everywhere.
- 37:18Speaker 1: It's everywhere. People are opening up these letters. They have
- 37:21Speaker 1: no idea where they're going to be placed for the
- 37:23Speaker 1: next what three to seven years?
- 37:25Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like that. I think it's kind of crazy.
- 37:27Speaker 1: Isn't that insane?
- 37:29Speaker 2: I mean, I just yeah, it is insane. I actually
- 37:32Speaker 2: don't know why we're still doing that.
- 37:33Speaker 1: But I heard you get to like choose you rank.
- 37:36Speaker 2: Your tip, they rank you.
- 37:38Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 37:38Speaker 2: When you get mated, yeah, I know, and you get
- 37:40Speaker 2: like an email one day before they're like, hey, you
- 37:42Speaker 2: did actually match because some people don't match and you Yeah,
- 37:46Speaker 2: it's stressful.
- 37:47Speaker 3: Yeah you're gonna be.
- 37:49Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope so you will be. I mean, we
- 37:51Speaker 2: got to get through medical school first and graduate and
- 37:54Speaker 2: do all that. But long ways away.
- 37:56Speaker 1: Yeah, so, but I am so excited for the day
- 37:59Speaker 1: that you get matched. I would be looking out for
- 38:01Speaker 1: the video.
- 38:02Speaker 2: Five years, five years away. So have you ever thought
- 38:07Speaker 2: of playing pro?
- 38:09Speaker 3: I have.
- 38:10Speaker 2: I would love to if I had the opportunity to
- 38:12Speaker 2: do it, Like on the side of medical school, it
- 38:14Speaker 2: just would depend on if I had the time, because
- 38:18Speaker 2: that would obviously have to be my number one priority,
- 38:20Speaker 2: which so much schooling. But yeah, I would like to.
- 38:23Speaker 2: The leagues that they have now are fun, and I
- 38:25Speaker 2: like the idea of playing short sided, which is what
- 38:28Speaker 2: they do now. It's like very much exactly like basketball,
- 38:31Speaker 2: and it's what's going to be in the Olympics. So
- 38:33Speaker 2: I would like that. It would be fun.
- 38:35Speaker 3: How is it different?
- 38:36Speaker 2: So instead I don't even know the length actually, but
- 38:38Speaker 2: it's like I would say the with whys of the
- 38:43Speaker 2: field is a smaller field. So it's like a smaller
- 38:46Speaker 2: field you after you get shot on, the goalie clears
- 38:49Speaker 2: the ball and you just keep going back and forth
- 38:51Speaker 2: the whole time. So the drawl it is completely taken
- 38:54Speaker 2: out and everyone's playing tag, everyone's playing defense. So it's
- 38:56Speaker 2: like a midi's sport almost, which I like, so be fun.
- 39:00Speaker 2: Does it like make it like quicker? Like is that
- 39:02Speaker 2: like that so much?
- 39:02Speaker 1: Quicker?
- 39:03Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah, I think it's what they're going to eventually
- 39:05Speaker 2: shift to. I mean, it's what they're doing for the Olympics. Yeah,
- 39:07Speaker 2: because a lot of teams cannot feel it a huge
- 39:10Speaker 2: team of girls so.
- 39:11Speaker 3: And lacrosse hasn't been in the Olympics.
- 39:13Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's the first year. So it's really exciting
- 39:15Speaker 2: that one. I will watch that eight yeah mm hmm. Yeah,
- 39:19Speaker 2: that's so cool. Yeah, I'm excited to watch. I think
- 39:21Speaker 2: they have a great team put together. I mean, I
- 39:23Speaker 2: don't know if they're fully set with it yet, but
- 39:25Speaker 2: it should be nice.
- 39:26Speaker 1: Were there any lacrosse players that you looked up to
- 39:28Speaker 1: growing up?
- 39:29Speaker 2: Honestly, there was this woman. Her name is Gentile. She
- 39:35Speaker 2: didn't end up going pro or anything, and it was
- 39:37Speaker 2: a long time ago, but she grew up in the
- 39:39Speaker 2: same area as I did, and as like a kid,
- 39:42Speaker 2: I always used to look up to her. She went
- 39:43Speaker 2: to Maryland and stuff. She was really good. Yeah, but
- 39:47Speaker 2: I actually don't know where she is now, but she's awesome. Yeah,
- 39:49Speaker 2: she was great when I was a kid, and that's
- 39:50Speaker 2: the only one I've ever really looked up to. I again,
- 39:54Speaker 2: didn't love watching sports that much, so she was nice
- 39:56Speaker 2: to me. I think once at a camp and I
- 39:58Speaker 2: was like, Okay, you're the one one that I'm gonna love.
- 40:00Speaker 3: So this is may We've talked about that so much.
- 40:02Speaker 6: But your interactions, especially with young kids, can make her
- 40:05Speaker 6: break their whole experience with.
- 40:07Speaker 3: The sport or with the school or how they feel
- 40:09Speaker 3: about it.
- 40:10Speaker 6: So how cool that you had someone that and for
- 40:12Speaker 6: her she probably has no idea.
- 40:15Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, definitely not.
- 40:16Speaker 3: It was really cool.
- 40:17Speaker 2: Yeah, but she was great. That was such a good memory.
- 40:20Speaker 2: I forgot about that.
- 40:22Speaker 1: I feel like, that's so awesome. I feel like when
- 40:24Speaker 1: I asked that question, like a lot of people think
- 40:26Speaker 1: of like, oh, like Lebron James, or like for gymnastics,
- 40:30Speaker 1: like Simone Biles. But there are a lot of people
- 40:32Speaker 1: like in college growing up that I looked looked up to,
- 40:36Speaker 1: like a lot like being able to affect that too
- 40:39Speaker 1: with the younger generation. That's insane.
- 40:42Speaker 2: Who was yours?
- 40:44Speaker 1: This This UCLA gymnast called called her name was Lachelle Wong,
- 40:50Speaker 1: And I grew up in Los Angeles, so UCLA was
- 40:53Speaker 1: very close and I was able to go to a
- 40:55Speaker 1: lot of those meets. There's Lachelle Wong, Vanessa Zamaipa and
- 40:59Speaker 1: I I loved her because the way the announcer would
- 41:03Speaker 1: pronounce her name would be Vanessa somebody ba like it
- 41:09Speaker 1: would just be so fun. And then just all of
- 41:13Speaker 1: the UCLA gymnasts too, like their Florentines. One girl had
- 41:16Speaker 1: like a cell phone call in the middle of her Floraentine,
- 41:18Speaker 1: so like she kind of joked with the fans that
- 41:21Speaker 1: people someone was actually calling her and she was like,
- 41:23Speaker 1: are you calling me? Like they were so creative with
- 41:26Speaker 1: their floor and their gymnastics. But all of those girls
- 41:30Speaker 1: for sure made me want to do gymnastics in college.
- 41:34Speaker 3: That's cool.
- 41:35Speaker 1: What about Umiya?
- 41:37Speaker 4: I feel like, honestly it was my mom, Like she
- 41:39Speaker 4: played like when I was growing up, like she it
- 41:42Speaker 4: was like a league, like a rec league, but I
- 41:45Speaker 4: thought it was like the coolest, saying like could not
- 41:47Speaker 4: wait to join a volleyball team one day. So yeah,
- 41:51Speaker 4: she definitely like really helped with like just wanting to
- 41:55Speaker 4: play volleyball.
- 41:57Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy, just like watching someone want like when
- 42:00Speaker 1: you're younger and being like I want to do that. Yeah,
- 42:04Speaker 1: you know, And it's crazy now that we're here. It's
- 42:06Speaker 1: like you have that power too, to like impact someone.
- 42:09Speaker 2: It's cool.
- 42:11Speaker 4: Do you feel like you like the way you approach
- 42:13Speaker 4: the cross like when you were younger is similar to
- 42:16Speaker 4: how you approach it.
- 42:17Speaker 2: Now or do you feel like it's different. I think
- 42:20Speaker 2: very different.
- 42:21Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 42:21Speaker 2: I was really serious when I was a kid. I
- 42:23Speaker 2: like needed to control everything, so playing a team sport
- 42:27Speaker 2: was very difficult because you can't just move people around
- 42:30Speaker 2: like chess pieces. But yeah, I was very rigid with it.
- 42:34Speaker 2: I was very serious, and I like didn't really have
- 42:37Speaker 2: that much fun with it, honestly. Growing up that's kind
- 42:39Speaker 2: of more just something I was good at. And then
- 42:43Speaker 2: now I've been finding a lot more joy in it,
- 42:44Speaker 2: which is nice, kind of letting go of it because
- 42:47Speaker 2: you just play so many games and realizing one game
- 42:51Speaker 2: really isn't going to do that much, and one mistake
- 42:53Speaker 2: isn't going to do anything. It's a team sport and
- 42:55Speaker 2: there's so many things going on and kind of just
- 42:58Speaker 2: going with the ebb and flow of the game instead
- 42:59Speaker 2: of I mean, that's why I don't remember anything now,
- 43:02Speaker 2: because I'm just like, okay, here I go to say here,
- 43:04Speaker 2: I go that way, and it's a lot more fun
- 43:06Speaker 2: to play that way, and finding more joy and realizing that,
- 43:09Speaker 2: like the reason that I play is because of my teammates,
- 43:11Speaker 2: not because of liking scoring or liking doing any of
- 43:16Speaker 2: that stuff, because I mean, it's fun, but you know,
- 43:20Speaker 2: I have more fun just hanging out.
- 43:23Speaker 1: So I feel like that's such a unique experience though, too,
- 43:26Speaker 1: because usually I feel like sometimes people say when they
- 43:29Speaker 1: start a sport, they started it because it was fun,
- 43:31Speaker 1: and then they got serious, and then they start getting
- 43:34Speaker 1: in their head when they're older or they come to college,
- 43:37Speaker 1: and then they can't find their identity. But you saying
- 43:39Speaker 1: it's the opposite way for you, I feel like it's
- 43:41Speaker 1: so much cooler to experience it, definitely healthier.
- 43:45Speaker 6: Yeah, well, it seems like your identity is not wrapped
- 43:48Speaker 6: up in your sport, right.
- 43:49Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's definitely not. I mean it's more wrapped
- 43:52Speaker 2: up than my cat than my sport. I feel it.
- 43:55Speaker 2: You have a cat to I do every wanting to ask. Yeah,
- 44:00Speaker 2: I love her. She's like, I don't know.
- 44:02Speaker 4: I like I've said this many times, Like never thought
- 44:04Speaker 4: I was a cat person, but like, once you find
- 44:08Speaker 4: your cat, just like, I don't know, it's awesome.
- 44:13Speaker 2: Roosevelt and then Theodore Roosevelt. There you go.
- 44:16Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a norrible They need to have a playdate.
- 44:19Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, THEO doesn't like other cats.
- 44:22Speaker 3: Theo's not leaving the house. Yeah, and on his castle.
- 44:26Speaker 2: Theo's in his castle.
- 44:26Speaker 3: And THEO does not like other girl friends.
- 44:28Speaker 2: He doesn't like anyone really that's not like approved by me,
- 44:32Speaker 2: and least of all cats. He got into it with
- 44:34Speaker 2: a cat in the neighborhood from his balcony. I just
- 44:38Speaker 2: not feeding the cat because of that.
- 44:39Speaker 3: It was terrible.
- 44:41Speaker 1: Yeah, my cat is fourteen years old, and I became
- 44:46Speaker 1: allergic to her after I got her, or I found
- 44:49Speaker 1: out I was allergic to her after I got her.
- 44:52Speaker 1: So it's really sad story. I can't pet her that much.
- 44:55Speaker 3: Is she with you hair.
- 44:56Speaker 1: No, okay, But whenever I go home and I see her,
- 45:00Speaker 1: I'm like, Hi, Maxie, shoo.
- 45:04Speaker 3: Love you from a distance.
- 45:06Speaker 2: Sorry, it's your turn, Okay, I'll get you.
- 45:12Speaker 1: So you're a part of Power m hm. Tell me
- 45:15Speaker 1: what that's been like in the multiple sessions that you've
- 45:18Speaker 1: gone through this semester and this year.
- 45:21Speaker 2: Well, Power is a group of women and we kind
- 45:24Speaker 2: of come together. It's built of athletes from all different
- 45:28Speaker 2: sports and we pretty much just focus on leadership and
- 45:31Speaker 2: finding yourself within the larger scheme of pastor sport. Recently,
- 45:37Speaker 2: we did a fun little session on LinkedIn, and working
- 45:40Speaker 2: through that, I improved my LinkedIn. We had one girl
- 45:44Speaker 2: make her LinkedIn, which was amazing, and overall, I would say,
- 45:48Speaker 2: just like to sum up the sessions, it's been very
- 45:50Speaker 2: much focused on me and how I can best market
- 45:55Speaker 2: myself to others, finding my own strengths and realizing I
- 45:59Speaker 2: don't need to be good at everything. I just need
- 46:01Speaker 2: to really come within what I am already good at
- 46:04Speaker 2: and then grow from there. So it's been nice. Yeah,
- 46:07Speaker 2: thank you Toy group effort.
- 46:09Speaker 1: Yeah, talk to us about like the selection process for
- 46:13Speaker 1: Power too. I heard you guys had to go through interviews, right,
- 46:16Speaker 1: was that a unique experience for someone who I don't
- 46:19Speaker 1: know if you've had a job at yet, but for
- 46:21Speaker 1: a lot of our student athletes, their first interview type
- 46:24Speaker 1: process and it could be scary and daunting.
- 46:27Speaker 2: So well, I'll say that Clemson Athletics has very much
- 46:29Speaker 2: prepared me for it. I've done a few different interviews.
- 46:33Speaker 2: It was my first video interview that I've done, so
- 46:36Speaker 2: that was fun.
- 46:38Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I got the shivers.
- 46:40Speaker 2: No, I didn't. I didn't hate it. It was nice.
- 46:42Speaker 2: I tried to make mine very me. It was nice.
- 46:46Speaker 3: I liked it.
- 46:46Speaker 2: I got to chat about some of the things that
- 46:49Speaker 2: I like to do, and it was very casual, just
- 46:52Speaker 2: because I feel like I know you guys. So it
- 46:55Speaker 2: was nice. And I think throughout the interviews that I've
- 46:57Speaker 2: done for different things at Clemson, it's really prepped me
- 47:01Speaker 2: because I also had to interview for like research positions
- 47:03Speaker 2: and stuff, and I feel like going into those I've
- 47:06Speaker 2: been very comfortable. And this is my first podcast and
- 47:08Speaker 2: I feel comfortable. Next will be easier.
- 47:11Speaker 3: So that's awesome.
- 47:12Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great. Shout out you development. Yeah, very developed.
- 47:17Speaker 4: So you're also in sack too, How do you feel
- 47:20Speaker 4: like you know you're doing those things in Sack for leadership,
- 47:24Speaker 4: like has help you, like on the field and just
- 47:26Speaker 4: in life in general.
- 47:28Speaker 2: I think, honestly, the main thing I've gotten out of
- 47:30Speaker 2: Sack has been just being used to being with so
- 47:34Speaker 2: many people in space and kind of just being like,
- 47:35Speaker 2: okay with Okay, I'm going to talk about this, I'm
- 47:38Speaker 2: going to talk about that, because I mean, as a kid,
- 47:40Speaker 2: I had really bad social anxiety and I did not
- 47:42Speaker 2: like public speaking at all. So I barely spoke like
- 47:45Speaker 2: my freshman's sophomore year of high school and kind of
- 47:48Speaker 2: coming out on my shell. The more I've been at
- 47:50Speaker 2: Clemson has been really nice. I mean, I'm very talkative now.
- 47:53Speaker 2: I was not. Back in the day.
- 47:54Speaker 3: I would have never guessed that you were.
- 47:55Speaker 2: Oh, I was very quiet. Yeah. I go to one
- 47:59Speaker 2: of the girls on my tea, she went to high
- 48:00Speaker 2: school with me. She was two years older, and she
- 48:03Speaker 2: barely heard me speak, and now she said it was
- 48:06Speaker 2: a shock. I was like, yes, well, shock for me too.
- 48:11Speaker 2: But yeah, it's been a lot of work kind of
- 48:12Speaker 2: getting over that, just kind of putting yourself in uncomfortable situations,
- 48:16Speaker 2: and slowly it's become easier. Yeah, but now I love
- 48:19Speaker 2: being alone. I live alone, I have cat. It's awesome time.
- 48:23Speaker 1: Yeah, but then you yap it up to your teammates.
- 48:25Speaker 2: Yes, I yap very frequently, especially with Tori. She's used
- 48:28Speaker 2: to it.
- 48:28Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want the Clemson fans to
- 48:31Speaker 1: know about you, about Clemson lacrosse, about your journey with
- 48:36Speaker 1: taking the m cat, anything, Well.
- 48:39Speaker 2: For the m CAT, it's a long process. So if
- 48:42Speaker 2: anyone is taking it, just don't put pressure on yourself.
- 48:46Speaker 2: And then for everything else that comes to lacrosse again,
- 48:50Speaker 2: it's the same thing. Just don't take it. I'd like
- 48:53Speaker 2: to think, don't take things too seriously because there's so
- 48:56Speaker 2: much to do, and the happier you are or fun
- 49:00Speaker 2: it is so Yeah.
- 49:01Speaker 3: True, good advice.
- 49:02Speaker 2: Yeah, where can people find you on social media? Well,
- 49:06Speaker 2: I don't actually have social media. I bet you have
- 49:09Speaker 2: a LinkedIn, But I have a LinkedIn, Yes, not suret
- 49:14Speaker 2: left I believe is my Instagram, but I go on
- 49:16Speaker 2: it twice a month to check to make sure I'm
- 49:18Speaker 2: not ignoring people. So yeah, I love that.
- 49:22Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 49:22Speaker 1: Yeah, you seem like the person in the world.
- 49:25Speaker 2: Well, I'm trying to be.
- 49:26Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of work media. I'm like, yeah, I had.
- 49:29Speaker 2: Facebook for a while because I was looking for a
- 49:31Speaker 2: couch on Facebook marketplace, but I recently deleted everything because Yeah,
- 49:35Speaker 2: so the airplane thing. I found about that about like
- 49:38Speaker 2: an hour or two ago from one of my friends.
- 49:39Speaker 2: She was like, what do you mean you haven't heard
- 49:41Speaker 2: about that? Yeah, airplane thing, all the airports, airport. Yeah,
- 49:46Speaker 2: and apparently there was a crash somewhere. Yeah. I had
- 49:49Speaker 2: no clue, so very much offline. You really have to not.
- 49:53Speaker 1: We did see that like a couple of days ago. Maybe, Yeah,
- 49:56Speaker 1: I found out.
- 49:56Speaker 2: About it today, So good for you to just not.
- 49:59Speaker 3: I love social media.
- 50:00Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lag, but it's worth it.
- 50:02Speaker 5: M H.
- 50:03Speaker 2: It's sort of like self restraint too, like wanting to like, yeah,
- 50:06Speaker 2: I started during my MCAT and now it's just so easy.
- 50:09Speaker 2: I just want your day a lot more timing. It's
- 50:11Speaker 2: crazy y. Yeah, Natalie, thank you, thank you so much.
- 50:16Speaker 2: Thank you