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Interview With the Vampire (1994) & Interview With the Vampire/The Vampire Lestat (2022-Present) · Scenes From The Screen

• 0:03
  Sean: Welcome once again to Scenes From the Screen, where we talk about all types of films: obscure, forgotten, prestigious, rotten...
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• 0:14
  Sean: My name is Sean, and I'll be your host.
• 0:16
  Sean: I am back with my favorite guest and favorite person in the world, Hollie.
• 0:21
  Hollie: Hello, everyone.
• 0:22
  Sean: Hello again to you.
• 0:24
  Sean: This week we have decided to do it's kind of going to be kind of like a little different in a way.
• 0:29
  Sean: Yes, we are doing a movie.
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  Sean: We're doing Interview With the Vampire from 1994 with Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt, but we're also going to talk about the television show because we do watch Interview with the Vampire, which is now Vampire Lestat.
• 0:43
  Hollie: Right.
• 0:43
  Hollie: Both are awesome.
• 0:45
  Sean: Yes, both are awesome.
• 0:46
  Sean: So I mean, we're we're now I haven't seen the movie since it came out at the theater in 1994.
• 0:51
  Sean: How about how about you?
• 0:52
  Sean: I don't know if you've seen it since then.
• 0:53
  Hollie: Maybe once or twice since then because of all the people in it.
• 0:57
  Sean: Right. And it was, you know, it and looking looking at it now, and I have the same feelings I I basically did before.
• 1:04
  Sean: I I mean I think it's very well done.
• 1:05
  Sean: Anne Rice wrote the screenplay.
• 1:07
  Sean: I didn't really know that that she had done that.
• 1:09
  Hollie: Oh, I didn't know she wrote the screenplay.
• 1:10
  Sean: Yeah, she wrote the screenplay, and I forgot Neil Jordan directed it.
• 1:13
  Sean: He was on a hot streak there.
• 1:14
  Sean: That was sandwiched right in between The Crying Game and Michael Collins, I believe.
• 1:19
  Sean: And remember the big controversy was Tom Cruise as Lestat.
• 1:24
  Hollie: Right.
• 1:25
  Sean: Which...
• 1:26
  Hollie: He actually did uh did really well.
• 1:28
  Hollie: I wasn't when I I read the book.
• 1:31
  Sean: I did too.
• 1:32
  Hollie: And I think I read the book before I saw the movie.
• 1:36
  Sean: I definitely did.
• 1:37
  Hollie: And I did not, I was very disappointed.
• 1:39
  Hollie: I figured I thought Brad Pitt would have been the better Lestat because of his features, because Lestat was blonde.
• 1:45
  Hollie: Just his his description in the book.
• 1:48
  Hollie: And I was like, there's no way Tom Cruise can pull that off.
• 1:52
  Hollie: But he was really good as Lestat.
• 1:54
  Sean: He actually was really good.
• 1:55
  Sean: Uh yeah, I had my doubts too, because you know, I'm not one of those people who like, you know, every movie that comes along, you know, like Michael Keaton as Batman.
• 2:02
  Sean: Oh, there's an uproar over that and that was before the internet.
• 2:04
  Sean: Can't even imagine what that would be like now.
• 2:06
  Sean: But yeah, I mean Tom Cruise, Lestat.
• 2:08
  Sean: But he did a really good job.
• 2:10
  Sean: And watching it again, except for the accent, obviously.
• 2:13
  Sean: I mean, there...
• 2:14
  Hollie: Neither one of them had an accent that was believable.
• 2:16
  Sean: No, they didn't.
• 2:17
  Sean: But I mean, you you know, you look at it to get it made, and you know, for Tom Cruise actually took ...wanting to make that...
• 2:23
  Hollie: Right.
• 2:23
  Hollie: If you think about the book too, those characters are not typical for Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise to play because there's a lot of uh homo erotica in it.
• 2:34
  Sean: Right, right.
• 2:35
  Sean: An underlying in the books more than...
• 2:38
  Hollie: Right in the books more more than in the movie but if you I was trying to watch the movie to see if they did show any of that, because back when I would have watched it, I probably wouldn't have noticed that they were also lovers.
• 2:53
  Sean: No, well the movie really doesn't...
• 2:55
  Hollie: It doesn't get into that, but if you see sometimes how close they get and how they how do you they do bring that...
• 3:01
  Sean: A little bit, a little bit...
• 3:02
  Hollie: ...a little bit which I thought was pretty cool.
• 3:04
  Sean: Yeah, I mean I agree.
• 3:04
  Sean: It was because watching the show is obviously we're gonna get on to that a little bit later, but yes, I was surprised they went kind of as far as they did for the time, and it was a pretty faithful adaptation, as I can recall.
• 3:17
  Sean: Um now I know that uh you know I I remember in the end, obviously, as Christian Slater.
• 3:22
  Sean: Well, I'm sorry, the beginning and the end.
• 3:24
  Sean: Christian Slater as Malloy, who's the interviewer, and it was supposed to be River Phoenix, but River Phoenix had died, and then and I think Christian Slater did it free of charge in his honor, something like that.
• 3:32
  Sean: So Malloy is not that big of a character...
• 3:35
  Hollie: Not in the in the...
• 3:36
  Sean: ...not in the at least in the first book and and the second book.
• 3:38
  Sean: I know I think a little bit later in the book series, and that's probably after I gave up...
• 3:42
  Hollie: Right.
• 3:42
  Sean: ...on it, which I think was the I stopped with the beginning of Tale of the Body Thief, which was the fourth one.
• 3:47
  Hollie: Right.
• 3:47
  Hollie: Yeah, I did too.
• 3:48
  Hollie: I well, I didn't, I don't think I finished all of Queen of the Damned.
• 3:51
  Sean: I did finish that one.
• 3:52
  Hollie: I might have.
• 3:53
  Sean: But yeah, but the movie I was uh like I said I was I was really shocked at but I you know my feeling is I love Tom Cruise.
• 3:59
  Sean: I think I and I wish he would he would do more things like this, you know, expand his horizons a little bit.
• 4:05
  Sean: I get tired of seeing him in Mission Impossible 27.
• 4:07
  Sean: You know, I know he does it to kind of prove a point.
• 4:09
  Sean: No, he's you know he's still vigorous at his age, and I get it, man.
• 4:13
  Sean: But you know, he's played some of the most memorable characters, and I as to why he hasn't won an Oscar, I mean...
• 4:18
  Hollie: Didn't he win for um Born on the Fourth of July?
• 4:20
  Sean: No, he didn't.
• 4:20
  Sean: Nope.
• 4:20
  Sean: Yeah, and I mean he was nominated for that.
• 4:22
  Sean: He should have been nominated for Rain Man for I think honestly over Dustin Hoffman.
• 4:26
  Sean: You watch it again, he's he's the stronger role.
• 4:28
  Hollie: Right, it's easier to play the Dustin Hoffman...
• 4:30
  Sean: The savant.
• 4:31
  Hollie: ...character than it is to play it straight.
• 4:33
  Sean: Exactly.
• 4:33
  Sean: But yeah, I mean he like I said, he's been...
• 4:35
  Sean: watching it again, I was really disappointed in Brad Pitt, and maybe it's just the character, but he's very flat in this.
• 4:41
  Hollie: Yeah, he didn't like Louis wasn't as I don't know, Louis.
• 4:44
  Hollie: I guess I think if we wouldn't have watched the TV series, because the actor who plays Louis in the TV series is one of our...we enjoy him.
• 4:53
  Hollie: So you know, in the back of our minds, I think maybe that the way he portrays Louis...
• 4:57
  Sean: I probably do.
• 4:58
  Sean: It's a little distorted from the series...
• 5:00
  Hollie: Yeah it's different than Brad Pitt because Louis really, I mean, he was very depressed most of his life.
• 5:04
  Sean: Yes.
• 5:05
  Sean: He wanted to die, and then so he was always flat and depressed.
• 5:09
  Sean: And and in the book, Louis was kind of flat and depressed.
• 5:13
  Sean: I mean, Louis was he was a depressed character, and he was never really the only time he enjoyed himself is when he was with Lestat, really.
• 5:20
  Sean: Yeah, and like I said, you know, he it was good, it was a serviceable movie, and it was some of the special effects for that time were amazing.
• 5:28
  Sean: I mean, you know, the I was thinking about some of the towards the end when Louis kind of murders the all the other vampires and he cuts Stephen Rea's character, Santiago, in half.
• 5:40
  Sean: I mean, that was great.
• 5:41
  Hollie: I did like that. I think Kirsten Dunst, when she tries to cut her hair and then her hair grows back, I thought that was really cool...
• 5:48
  Sean: That was.
• 5:49
  Hollie: ...cool scene.
• 5:49
  Sean: Yeah, and her fangs grew.
• 5:51
  Hollie: And like I like...
• 5:52
  Sean: The only the only part I noticed, which was a little, and I and I get it, that's it's very difficult to do even at that time.
• 5:57
  Sean: But when Louie met Santiago for the first time and they're in that little tunnel, and Santiago goes to dance on the tunnel, it dances on the ceiling basically.
• 6:06
  Sean: And I you could see it shift a little bit, you could see the tilt of it.
• 6:10
  Sean: So it's I mean, that kind of took me out of it, but but otherwise, I thought it was I mean, for the time and for what it was, I it was a really well-done adaptation.
• 6:19
  Hollie: Right, it it was really good.
• 6:20
  Hollie: I uh like I said, I read the book first, and I was really big into Anne Rice for a very long time and was very invested in those characters.
• 6:29
  Hollie: Like Lestat was such a cool character to read.
• 6:33
  Hollie: And then like I said, when Tom when they Tom Cruise was playing, I was like, Oh my god, that's not Lestat.
• 6:39
  Hollie: And he he pulled it off, he carried it very well.
• 6:41
  Sean: He did, yeah.
• 6:42
  Sean: I mean, you you know, now obviously when we start to talk about the show, touch upon that a little bit, it's gonna be a little bit different, but but yeah, he he he really did a fantastic job.
• 6:52
  Hollie: So much better than the and this bothers me too.
• 6:56
  Hollie: They went from they did the Interview With the Vampire, and then someone did Queen of the Damned.
• 7:00
  Hollie: Why didn't they do...
• 7:01
  Sean: The Vampire Lestat.
• 7:02
  Hollie: ...the vampire Lestat...
• 7:03
  Sean: Which is to me the best book.
• 7:04
  Hollie: That's the best story.
• 7:05
  Sean: It is, it is the best story.
• 7:06
  Hollie: And that's what I mean.
• 7:07
  Hollie: Queen of the Damned had a little bit in it.
• 7:09
  Hollie: I do remember vaguely the beginning of it.
• 7:11
  Hollie: I know I just really hated that movie, and the guy who played Lestat was just not the caliber of anyone that should play a character like Lestat.
• 7:20
  Sean: Right.
• 7:20
  Sean: I didn't see Queen of the Damned because I again I I didn't I didn't love the book.
• 7:25
  Hollie: I just don't understand why you wouldn't do the most interesting book, and maybe she didn't let anyone, maybe you know...
• 7:30
  Sean: Yeah.
• 7:30
  Sean: I mean, but the first movie did well.
• 7:32
  Sean: I mean, Interview With the Vampire did very well at the box office.
• 7:35
  Sean: It was very, it was actually pretty well critically received.
• 7:38
  Sean: You know, it wasn't uh, you know, oh my we have to this is a classic for all time.
• 7:43
  Hollie: But I think money-wise, it had to make a lot of money.
• 7:45
  Sean: It did make a lot of money...
• 7:46
  Hollie: You had Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt.
• 7:47
  Sean: I want to say where I read 60 million dollars budget, and it made like 200 some million at the time, which is I mean, at the time it was a lot.
• 7:55
  Hollie: You had Antonio Banderas, Christian Slater, Kirsten Dunst...
• 7:55
  Sean: Stephen Rea.
• 7:56
  Hollie: Stephen Rea, and then I I wouldn't necessarily call it a cameo, but a character that we didn't really a actress that we didn't know was in it was Thandie Newton, who I really like, but you're not so much.
• 8:06
  Sean: I'm not, yeah.
• 8:06
  Sean: I mean, I'm not that yeah, that big of a fan of Thandie Newton.
• 8:09
  Hollie: Yeah, she was cool to see in it.
• 8:11
  Sean: I don't actively dislike her or won't watch anything she's in, but it's you know, she it's not about to seek out Thandie Newton films.
• 8:16
  Hollie: No, I just I I think I like her.
• 8:18
  Sean: I don't even know that's how how her name is pronounced.
• 8:20
  Sean: I think it's a little bit different.
• 8:21
  Hollie: Thandiwe?
• 8:22
  Sean: Yeah Thandiwe.
• 8:22
  Sean: Okay.
• 8:24
  Hollie: Okay.
• 8:24
  Sean: But then maybe they call her Thandie.
• 8:25
  Sean: I don't know.
• 8:26
  Hollie: She used to be just Thandie.
• 8:27
  Sean: Yes.
• 8:27
  Hollie: Now she's Thandiwe.
• 8:28
  Sean: Right.
• 8:29
  Sean: But but yeah, like I said, I I would highly recommend going back and watching Interview With the Vampire if you if you haven't seen it...
• 8:35
  Hollie: It holds up.
• 8:35
  Hollie: I you know, it's not like...
• 8:36
  Sean: It does!
• 8:37
  Hollie: ...the best horror movie.
• 8:39
  Hollie: I mean, you have to remember it's not it there's horror, but it's not like complete horror...
• 8:42
  Sean: It's more of a gothic type of type of horror...
• 8:45
  Hollie: ...but it does it does hold up fairly well.
• 8:46
  Hollie: I was surprised, I was afraid I would be disappointed watching it again now with you know...
• 8:52
  Sean: Same.
• 8:53
  Hollie: ...mindset.
• 8:54
  Sean: After we've seen the show, yeah, I thought, okay, and again, it's it's tough to compare the two.
• 8:58
  Sean: And because, and we'll go into the show now because so the show debuted in what 2022 stars let's see...
• 9:06
  Hollie: Sam Reid!
• 9:06
  Sean: ...Sam Reid as Lestat, and I believe is it Jacob Anderson...
• 9:09
  Hollie: I believe that's his name as well.
• 9:10
  Hollie: Gray Worm.
• 9:11
  Sean: ...as Louie, and he was Gray Worm in Game of Thrones.
• 9:13
  Sean: So we already knew him coming in.
• 9:15
  Sean: Obviously, uh Daniel Malloy is Daniel Malloy's character was changed a little bit for this.
• 9:20
  Sean: He's not as young, he is kind of an older investigative reporter...
• 9:23
  Sean: he's played by Eric Bogosian, who always reminded me, and we just talked about this not too long ago, reminded me of Anthony Bourdain.
• 9:29
  Sean: Why they never put Eric Bogosian in an Anthony Bourdain movie I as his biopic, I'll never know. But anyway...
• 9:35
  Hollie: And the the actor who plays Armand, I love him.
• 9:38
  Hollie: I don't know how to Assad Zaman.
• 9:42
  Sean: I don't know how to pronounce his name correctly.
• 9:42
  Hollie: I don't know, I'm not sure how to pronounce this last name, but I really like him as Armand.
• 9:46
  Sean: I think I think the casting for the show...
• 9:48
  Hollie: Is phenomenal.
• 9:49
  Sean: ...it is phenomenal.
• 9:49
  Sean: And so here was something I was thinking about too.
• 9:52
  Sean: So I mean it it I can't say it does a faithful adaptation of the book because they do change Louis's character quite a bit...
• 9:57
  Hollie: Quite a bit.
• 9:58
  Sean: ...which which is good because again, you mentioned the fact that he was morose pretty much in the novel, and he's pretty vibrant character before he becomes a vampire in this.
• 10:08
  Sean: I mean, he's not you're not you're all gloom and doom totally.
• 10:11
  Hollie: But he's he's the reason he does struggle is not because his wife and child die, he struggles because he's he's gay in Louisiana at that time...
• 10:21
  Sean: And a black man.
• 10:23
  Hollie: ...and a black man trying to have a business and he's kind of a criminal, but he he's a really cool character.
• 10:28
  Hollie: And Jacob Anderson, the accent, the southern accent he does is just it it just keeps you there.
• 10:34
  Sean: And is and he's is he he's British?
• 10:36
  Hollie: Yes.
• 10:36
  Sean: Isn't that correct?
• 10:36
  Sean: How come how come all the everyone from overseas can do a better American accent than some Americans could do?
• 10:41
  Hollie: They I don't know.
• 10:42
  Sean: I I that that baffles me, and they're because they're all great at it.
• 10:44
  Sean: I've only I've only seen a few people who could pull off a really good English accent that were American.
• 10:49
  Hollie: Is Sam Sam Reid is oh, Sam Reid is Australian, the guy who plays Lestat...
• 10:52
  Sean: Right Australian, yeah.
• 10:53
  Hollie: ...so he does the French accent.
• 10:55
  Hollie: I I read about him a little bit, and some people said that he does a French accent, it's it comes and goes.
• 11:00
  Hollie: People who really understand that French, but then they said that character could do that because...
• 11:06
  Sean: He's lived so many place.
• 11:07
  Hollie: ...lived so many places, and he's lived so long that he might have lost some parts of it. So that's ok.
• 11:11
  Sean: And he's just adapting as yeah, so that that's a good explanation for it too.
• 11:15
  Hollie: I I wish this actor would do so much more.
• 11:18
  Hollie: I need to see Jacob Anderson and Sam Reed in more things.
• 11:22
  Hollie: I just love them.
• 11:22
  Sean: Yeah, I mean I'd watch them read like the back of a salad dressing bottle because they're so they're really their chemistry is good.
• 11:27
  Hollie: They're charismatic.
• 11:27
  Sean: The whole cast is is extremely well done.
• 11:32
  Hollie: The little girl who played Claudia, I loved her too.
• 11:34
  Sean: Well, she she is not back, but the actress is, if you've noticed.
• 11:38
  Sean: So I want to see kind of what they do with that.
• 11:40
  Sean: That that's that's an interesting take.
• 11:42
  Sean: Uh so the first two seasons were Interview With the Vampire.
• 11:45
  Hollie: Pretty much.
• 11:46
  Sean: And now this this season is Interview With the Vampire: The Vampire Lestat.
• 11:49
  Sean: So it does focus more on, and I know I uh Louie wasn't in the second book as much, Vampire Lestat, barely.
• 11:54
  Sean: I mean, they might have mentioned...
• 11:56
  Hollie: I think they just barely mentioned because Vampire Lestat, the book, was about how Lestat became a vampire.
• 12:01
  Hollie: It was his...
• 12:03
  Sean: His journey.
• 12:03
  Hollie: No, what's the word they say when we talked a lot about his master, not master, his maker, his maker and his maker's maker, like it really talked about the...
• 12:13
  Sean: The history and the lineage.
• 12:14
  Hollie: ...the lineage of the vampires, which I really thought was very cool.
• 12:16
  Hollie: And we're we're not getting we're getting a little bit of that, but not a lot.
• 12:20
  Sean: Well, they and they have to you have to save some stuff, you know, which...
• 12:23
  Hollie: I thought this was the last season.
• 12:25
  Sean: I it might be, I don't know.
• 12:26
  Sean: I mean, I I I hope not, but I mean I hope there's a you can do more with it, they can go...
• 12:32
  Sean: so you look at it this way.
• 12:33
  Sean: I mean, the show that we really love, The Leftovers on HBO, the first season was the book.
• 12:39
  Sean: Because I read the book even before the TV show was planned.
• 12:42
  Sean: I just thought it was a cool premise.
• 12:44
  Sean: And then after that first season, where was it gonna go?
• 12:47
  Sean: But it actually got better.
• 12:49
  Hollie: I did like the second season.
• 12:50
  Sean: And even the third was really well...second season was probably my favorite, but uh the third was good.
• 12:54
  Sean: So, anyway...
• 12:55
  Sean: Back to The Vampire Lestat and Interview With the Vampire.
• 12:58
  Sean: Um, I digress a little bit because I you know uh but one thing is I did want to mention about this is that so AMC is doing this, and I I was a little reluctant to even think about how good it was going to be because they kind of dropped the ball with Preacher.
• 13:12
  Hollie: Yes, they seriously because that I did read.
• 13:15
  Sean: Yes.
• 13:15
  Hollie: So they really dropped a lot ...
• 13:17
  Sean: And I did too, and I because I I showed it to you.
• 13:19
  Sean: I said, Oh, this is what got me back into comics after a decade or so away.
• 13:24
  Hollie: Such a great graphic novel.
• 13:24
  Sean: That was it was an amazing tale, and and...
• 13:27
  Hollie: So bloody and gross.
• 13:28
  Sean: They they they re strained on on AMC.
• 13:31
  Sean: Well, Interview With the Vampire does not.
• 13:33
  Hollie: No, not at all.
• 13:34
  Sean: In fact, it goes further...
• 13:35
  Hollie: Way farther.
• 13:36
  Sean: And maybe that's to make up for I'm like, oh, we we fucked up with Preacher.
• 13:39
  Sean: We better do you know it justice for for Interview With the Vampire because it is a lot bloodier than you would think.
• 13:46
  Hollie: But the story Vampire Lestat is just a cool story because he's because of the book, Interview With the Vampire that the Eric Bogosian...
• 13:57
  Sean: Yes, well Daniel Molloy.
• 13:58
  Hollie: ...Daniel Molloy wrote, people like actually believe in vampires, kind of like not everyone, but there's a vampire's a subset of society that really believes in vampires, and he's out.
• 14:07
  Hollie: I guess that's the best way you can say it.
• 14:10
  Hollie: He's an out vampire.
• 14:11
  Hollie: He acts, he plays one in his rock band, but at the same time, he doesn't hide that he's one.
• 14:18
  Hollie: So he's just being himself.
• 14:19
  Sean: But nobody, some people don't believe him.
• 14:20
  Hollie: Right.
• 14:21
  Hollie: Some people don't believe it, they believe it's a show, and other people think he's a real vampire.
• 14:24
  Hollie: So it's it's really cool and how in how they talk about there's vampires everywhere, you just don't know them, you know, like the all the little mini-groups of vampires that they come into contact with, which is is super cool.
• 14:35
  Sean: Yeah, and I also like what they did with Daniel Malloy's character, again, Eric Bogosian, because in the book he's a younger interviewer.
• 14:41
  Sean: But this one, this is actually when the Interview With the Vampire the TV show starts.
• 14:44
  Sean: That's actually his second time speaking with him.
• 14:46
  Sean: Remember, he spoke with him back in like the 1970s in San Fran, which is Interview With the Vampire the book.
• 14:53
  Hollie: Book, right.
• 14:53
  Sean: So uh he's he's kind of going over it.
• 14:55
  Sean: He's did I did I not remember things correctly?
• 14:57
  Sean: Did I do it?
• 14:58
  Sean: Um so he he's actually like another interview, and that's...
• 15:01
  Hollie: That was a neat connection that they made.
• 15:02
  Hollie: It's almost like they wanted to keep the the history of the true movie, of the first movie in the book, by saying he talked to them at that time, and then brought it to the very modern age.
• 15:12
  Hollie: Because it's not the present time in the in the TV show is now or even slightly in the future, it's not in the 80s and you know, which is really cool because like they talked about like money and cryptocurrency and Dubai and like all those things and and keep it really you know timely and and right now.
• 15:32
  Sean: Yeah, I mean it's uh you know, uh, because Armand is wealthy.
• 15:36
  Sean: So he has this penthouse that has the the glass that obviously is the sun does right, the sun doesn't come through so he can see everything.
• 15:44
  Hollie: But Armand, I thought he was supposed to be able to walk in the sun.
• 15:47
  Sean: Yeah, I honestly can't remember whether it was in the book or not.
• 15:48
  Hollie: I thought it was Armand was the only vampire that could walk in the sun, or or was that just the queen?
• 15:53
  Hollie: I don't know.
• 15:53
  Hollie: There is a there is a character, and I I'd probably have to look this up that can walk in the sun, and I thought it was Armand because his maker was really super powerful.
• 16:03
  Sean: Isn't that Marius, or was that um...
• 16:05
  Hollie: Magnus.
• 16:05
  Sean: Magnus.
• 16:06
  Sean: Okay, because there's a Marius as well.
• 16:07
  Sean: Yeah, I always get those confused because it's been yeah decades since...
• 16:11
  Hollie: I had to look this up.
• 16:12
  Sean: Literally before I I saw the 1994 Interview With the Vampire is when I read all the books.
• 16:17
  Hollie: Yeah, I didn't remember all this.
• 16:18
  Hollie: I had to look it up, but I think his because Armand is a is a stronger vampire than Lestat, and Lestat's a pretty strong vampire because his maker was really strong...
• 16:29
  Sean: And he's been around for a long time, stole many a man's soul and face.
• 16:32
  Hollie: Yes, but Armand is definitely out of all of them the most powerful, but they're all very wealthy.
• 16:38
  Sean: Yeah, well, they've had time to amass those fortunes.
• 16:40
  Hollie: When you when you're a vampire, you can you can do whatever you want, you can make people give you money.
• 16:43
  Hollie: I mean, you just...
• 16:44
  Sean: Right you glamour them.
• 16:45
  Hollie: Glamour them, yes.
• 16:46
  Sean: Another fancy word they use for hypnotize, not in the show...
• 16:49
  Hollie: No, but that's that's a vampire word, though.
• 16:51
  Sean: But yeah, I'm I'm very impressed with what the show, does and I I really I really look forward to watching it every week.
• 16:58
  Hollie: I do too.
• 16:58
  Hollie: And and if you're questioning whether or not you should watch it, you know, of course you should watch season one and two first, but then season three, the tone changes, which is really cool.
• 17:09
  Hollie: Like even the opening credits.
• 17:11
  Sean: I love the opening credits.
• 17:12
  Hollie: I do too.
• 17:12
  Hollie: And it's so flashy and it's so rock and rolly because Lestat is a rock star now.
• 17:17
  Hollie: And well, not a star yet, but kind of...
• 17:20
  Hollie: but and Sam Reid doing his own vocals, like you hear Lestat singing at the opening credits, and it it sounds like the character you know as Lestat, which is it's even better, like the how they found an actor that could also carry the musical side.
• 17:33
  Sean: It's it's gonna be tough because he's now this these performances is gonna be tough for me to see them in anything else because they're so good in this show.
• 17:39
  Sean: I I I think more I think more Sam uh...
• 17:41
  Hollie: Sam Reid.
• 17:42
  Sean: ...Sam Reid than uh than Jacob Anderson because we've seen Jacob Anderson already, but Sam Reid I've never seen...
• 17:48
  Hollie: But Jacob Anderson, and I don't know, the the poor guy could be like 75 years old, and in a movie I'm still gonna call him Gray Worm.
• 17:54
  Hollie: So I you know maybe...
• 17:56
  Sean: He'll always be Gray Worm.
• 17:56
  Hollie: ...he'll always be gray worm to me because uh again, that was one of my favorite shows of all time and then...
• 18:01
  Sean: Up to like halfway through the last season, and then just...
• 18:04
  Hollie: but Sam Reid, I'm just I'm in awe of him.
• 18:06
  Hollie: He's just his talent is amazing.
• 18:09
  Sean: Well, and I know it's gonna turn some people off because they they do it's more explicit in the show of their...
• 18:14
  Hollie: Their homosexuality.
• 18:15
  Sean: Their homosexuality, yes.
• 18:16
  Hollie: But vampires aren't aren't...
• 18:18
  Hollie: they're sexual beings...
• 18:19
  Sean: Right, they're not...
• 18:19
  Hollie: ...they're not hetero or homosexual.
• 18:21
  Sean: Exactly.
• 18:21
  Hollie: They're they're just...
• 18:22
  Sean: They just exist, yeah.
• 18:23
  Hollie: ...you know, they have sex with who they find attractive and they love who they love.
• 18:28
  Hollie: For right now, with the the way the world is, it's it's very the way people are and the way it should be, you know, fall in love with who you fall in love with.
• 18:36
  Hollie: And I like that of it.
• 18:38
  Sean: Yeah, and I'm I'm glad that they aren't afraid.
• 18:40
  Sean: In fact, that goes that pushes the envelope a lot further than either the book or the movie.
• 18:43
  Hollie: Yes, well...
• 18:43
  Sean: Which I I'm I mean it's I'm fine with it because it's it it lends more dimensions to their characters.
• 18:49
  Hollie: But in the book, didn't in the Interview With the Vampire, didn't Lestat and Louie sleep in the same coffin?
• 18:55
  Sean: They did, but it didn't really go as explicit as as it does in...
• 18:59
  Hollie: She went pretty close.
• 19:00
  Sean: She did, but not believe me, it's not anywhere near I don't I don't as I recall as much as they go through in the show because they again it's updated, so I think they're the audience now is a little bit more.
• 19:11
  Sean: Well, you want to say they're a little bit more adult.
• 19:13
  Hollie: Well, yeah, it's...
• 19:14
  Sean: But there are some that aren't.
• 19:15
  Hollie: There are there are yeah, there are themes that people can accept more now.
• 19:20
  Sean: Yes, they're more widely accepted, let's just put it that way.
• 19:23
  Sean: But I mean, even people who who really don't care for that, don't let it deter you because it is it's a great show, it's a really well-written show.
• 19:30
  Hollie: But that's not the only part that's kind of push ing the envelope, if you think about it.
• 19:33
  Hollie: There's also another issue that comes up.
• 19:36
  Sean: What's that?
• 19:36
  Hollie: I can't think of the word.
• 19:38
  Hollie: Mom and son.
• 19:40
  Sean: Oh, the incest.
• 19:41
  Sean: Well, that's in Vampire Lestat, yeah.
• 19:43
  Sean: That's and they're just starting to touch on that.
• 19:45
  Hollie: Was that in the book?
• 19:46
  Sean: I believe it was, but again, I don't I don't know if to that extent, I can't say.
• 19:49
  Hollie: I can't remember if he because that's interesting, dichotomy, him and his him and his mother.
• 19:53
  Sean: That is, and I I looked up the actress because I'm like, boy, she looks familiar, but she's actually Rosemary Harris's daughter, and you may know Rosemary Harris as she was, I believe, Aunt May in the first set of Spider-Man films with um Toby Maguire.
• 20:08
  Hollie: Can't remember that.
• 20:09
  Sean: I when I when I saw that it was that was her mother, I go, Oh, uh, yeah, of course she played Aunt May.
• 20:14
  Sean: Um, I want to say it's Toby McGuire McGuire's you know, his his trilogy, but...
• 20:18
  Hollie: Jennifer...
• 20:19
  Sean: Is it Elle or Ehle?
• 20:20
  Hollie: E H L E.
• 20:22
  Hollie: I could not pronounce that one.
• 20:23
  Sean: Yeah, she's very good in it.
• 20:24
  Sean: I told you she reminds me of Mary Mary McConnell a little bit.
• 20:28
  Sean: The face-wise, she really she really does, and she has that kind of just look about her.
• 20:31
  Hollie: I like how she portrays the character though.
• 20:33
  Hollie: It's really cool.
• 20:34
  Hollie: Yeah, and like I said, I didn't remember a lot about that, and I kind of don't want to read about it because I want to be surprised all over again.
• 20:39
  Sean: Yeah, but now I want to read the books again.
• 20:41
  Sean: At least the first two.
• 20:42
  Sean: I did after that, Queen of the Damned, I really yeah.
• 20:43
  Sean: I mean, I you know, and again, they could I just want to see you know if they if they want to go further with this.
• 20:50
  Sean: You can you can expand...
• 20:52
  Hollie: You can do a lot with these characters.
• 20:53
  Sean: There is absolutely a lot you can do to to a room full of talented writers, as they have on this show.
• 20:58
  Sean: Yeah, they're using source material, but they are going a lot further than what Anne Rice wrote.
• 21:02
  Hollie: Right.
• 21:02
  Hollie: There's there's so much that the characters do that have nothing to do with the book, like Louis right now, like he has nothing really to do with Vampire Lestat in the book, and now he's like he's not it the definitely the first two seasons really focused more on Louie, which so does the book.
• 21:19
  Hollie: But then this this this season is all Lestat.
• 21:23
  Hollie: I mean, Jacob Anderson does come into play and he and they do show him, and I really like what they do with him, but that's all creative.
• 21:30
  Hollie: That's that has nothing to do with anything.
• 21:32
  Sean: And they do drop a lot about the uh the Talamasca.
• 21:35
  Sean: Well, here and there.
• 21:35
  Sean: There are a couple things in references, which we didn't watch.
• 21:38
  Hollie: I didn't know it really had any relationship.
• 21:40
  Sean: It I mean, it kind of does like I guess a larger universe type of thing, but maybe now we'll have to go back and watch it.
• 21:45
  Sean: There is there is vampires in it, another you know, it's more of like supernatural.
• 21:49
  Sean: I think it's more of like a they track down these supernatural beings, but uh again, I don't know much about it.
• 21:56
  Hollie: Vampires are the coolest ones, though. Like my favorite things have always been vampires, like um True Blood, I love that was vampires.
• 22:01
  Hollie: Like vampires just have that that I don't know.
• 22:04
  Sean: True Blood had a great premise, and it had like one good season towards the end, but I didn't really care for the show that much.
• 22:11
  Sean: I thought it was a little over the top and goofy.
• 22:14
  Hollie: No, I loved True Blood.
• 22:16
  Sean: So you know I mean that's one of those shows where you know it's it's like well they have to make everybody some kind of creature where you know you like the superhero shows.
• 22:23
  Sean: Everyone has to have a power by the by season five.
• 22:26
  Sean: I don't care.
• 22:27
  Sean: I don't want anybody to have a power.
• 22:28
  Sean: Uh yeah, but I get it, but this is a good writing, at least, so...
• 22:31
  Hollie: Right, it is very good writing, yeah, and amazing acting.
• 22:34
  Hollie: So I uh very highly recommend it.
• 22:36
  Hollie: And I I would like to read the books again, and I probably after this season, after we're done, I might want to watch all three again.
• 22:44
  Sean: Yeah, I would I wouldn't mind doing that...
• 22:46
  Hollie: Not right away, but just to kind of get everything in again.
• 22:48
  Sean: Because it's uh like I because I do forget you know a little bit about because it's it's sometimes a year before well it it is uh before the next season comes on, but at least we don't have to wait, we haven't had to wait that long for overall for three seasons.
• 23:01
  Sean: I mean, sometimes you know you look at some of these shows, it's well, five years later, here comes season two.
• 23:05
  Sean: Like I what I don't remember anything about it, but yeah, I would definitely highly recommend it.
• 23:10
  Sean: And this is again, this is the first foray we've made into still Scenes From the Screen, and we said big and small, and this one covers big and small.
• 23:17
  Sean: So in the future, I think we're gonna try, we'll do a couple more small screen ones.
• 23:21
  Hollie: I do like to compare and contrast things, like um, either in the same genre or the same characters, or like this, the same story done two different ways and two different visions for it.
• 23:32
  Hollie: I think is kind of neat.
• 23:33
  Sean: Yeah, I I completely agree.
• 23:34
  Sean: You know, I mean, when we do we can also do well, we did the book, the movie, and the TV series in this one.
• 23:39
  Sean: Sometimes it's like they do with Stephen King.
• 23:41
  Sean: Oh, we'll compare all of his movies to his writing, and sometimes it's a little bit different.
• 23:45
  Sean: You take licenses, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
• 23:48
  Sean: But this this definitely works.
• 23:50
  Hollie: This is working.
• 23:50
  Sean: Yeah.
• 23:50
  Hollie: Just the the...
• 23:51
  Sean: I mean it's not an Exit to Eden.
• 23:53
  Sean: You remember that?
• 23:53
  Sean: And the book was great.
• 23:54
  Hollie: The book was awesome! The movie had nothing to do with it.
• 23:55
  Sean: And then you made that movie with Rosie O'Donnell and like bumbling cops, and it had nothing to do with that.
• 24:02
  Hollie: It was so bad. The characters were from the book, and that's...
• 24:04
  Sean: And they weren't even focused on that much.
• 24:06
  Hollie: But everything else was so terrible.
• 24:07
  Sean: It was a little bit too racy.
• 24:08
  Sean: I don't know why they decided to...
• 24:10
  Hollie: Why would you do that Anne Rice?
• 24:11
  Sean: I don't understand.
• 24:11
  Hollie: That's like trying to do one of the beauty books.
• 24:13
  Hollie: You can't do any of that.
• 24:14
  Sean: No, you would.
• 24:14
  Sean: I mean, you would be able to do it now, I think, on on a I think on uh maybe on like a I'm not saying Paramount...Showtime.
• 24:22
  Sean: Maybe a Showtime, maybe an HBO.
• 24:24
  Hollie: To try not to get an NC17 on that would almost be impossible.
• 24:28
  Sean: But it can happen.
• 24:28
  Hollie: So if you like reading Anne Rice prior to her going religious, when she wrote these very sexual, horror, real creative characters.
• 24:39
  Hollie: Her writing, I I read, I'm a slow reader and I could read through her stuff so fast, and I was so invested in the characters too.
• 24:47
  Hollie: The beauty books were amazing.
• 24:48
  Sean: I think I read one or how many are I I know I read one.
• 24:51
  Hollie: I think there's four.
• 24:51
  Sean: Oh, yeah.
• 24:52
  Hollie: I read them all, I know that.
• 24:54
  Sean: And not they weren't good.
• 24:55
  Sean: I just for some reason you kind of you know you get away from things, you forget about it.
• 24:58
  Sean: But yeah, I mean, I was really into a lot of Anne Rice back then, and yeah, since it's it's tough even to read anymore...
• 25:05
  Sean: to find time.
• 25:06
  Hollie: Yeah, but her her stories and her characters are very well developed.
• 25:10
  Sean: Yes, I agree.
• 25:11
  Hollie: So the if you could take an Anne Rice and run with it.
• 25:15
  Sean: So the movie Interview With the Vampire in 1994, are you glued to the set when it comes on?
• 25:20
  Sean: Are you scrolling and maybe taking a peek?
• 25:22
  Hollie: Because I've seen it a few times now, I would probably leave it on and scroll a little bit at the same time.
• 25:27
  Sean: I I would too.
• 25:28
  Hollie: Only because Brad Pitt is one of my favorites, he's on my list, and to see him so young, he's just so freaking cute, he's so young, and it it's one of those movies that I'll I will leave on for Christian Slater too, because you know that's my 80s, that's my 80s guys.
• 25:43
  Sean: And definitely the show, because we already talked about re-watching it.
• 25:45
  Sean: So the show is definitely rewatchable.
• 25:47
  Sean: That would take a lot more effort, but I mean that would it does suck you in.
• 25:50
  Sean: It's it's that good of a show.
• 25:52
  Hollie: The movie did watching it again, they did stuff, the characters weren't as well developed as what we know of them.
• 25:59
  Hollie: So if you're really into wanting to watch this, I would recommend watching the TV show just because the development of the characters, and you have more time, and they have more time, obviously.
• 26:07
  Sean: And that's what I do like about it.
• 26:08
  Sean: Yeah, sometimes a TV show lends itself to uh you know a books because you have more time to develop the characters.
• 26:14
  Hollie: Although Stephen Rea is great, but then we never said who else was in this one.
• 26:17
  Hollie: Who plays Stephen Rea's character in the TV show?
• 26:21
  Sean: Who does play...
• 26:22
  Hollie: Ben Daniels.
• 26:23
  Sean: Oh, that's right, yeah.
• 26:23
  Sean: Ben Daniels, oh, from the Exorcist TV series, which we're we're gonna talk about that some point in the future because uh we're not gonna let that slide by.
• 26:31
  Hollie: His name I can remember, don't ask me why.
• 26:33
  Sean: Yeah, and that and he played um Judas in Jesus Christ Superstar.
• 26:37
  Hollie: Yes.
• 26:37
  Sean: On...
• 26:37
  Sean: when they showed it on TV.
• 26:38
  Sean: All right, so that is about all we have for today.
• 26:41
  Sean: Thank you for being here again.
• 26:43
  Hollie: You're welcome.
• 26:44
  Hollie: Highly recommend watch Interview With the Vampire, watch anything Sam Reid is in.
• 26:48
  Sean: Yes, yes, I agree.
• 26:50
  Hollie: And Jacob Anderson.
• 26:50
  Sean: All right, well, we'll be back soon with something.
• 26:53
  Hollie: Maybe.
• 26:53
  Sean: Maybe.
• 26:54
  Hollie: You gotta start paying me.
• 26:55
  Sean: I will.
• 26:56
  Hollie: Okay.
• 26:56
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• 27:06
  Speaker: For Scenes From the Screen, I'm Sean, and thanks for listening.