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55KRC Tuesday Show - Ken Kober, Steve Goodin, Tom Z, Deep Dive · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Five O five fifty five k r C detalk station.
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  Speaker 1: Happy Tuesday, some VA and that's the way the news go.
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  Speaker 1: Yes it is. Brian Thomas started here glad to be hope.
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  Speaker 1: You are having a decent morning. Hope, so anyway you
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  Speaker 1: can turn it into a decent day if you try, so.
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  Speaker 1: Wish you the best on that one coming up stick
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  Speaker 1: around all morning. FLP President Can Coverer is going to
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  Speaker 1: join the show. Perfect timing. Joe Strecker, thank you very
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  Speaker 1: much for reaching out to Can Cover because police are
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  Speaker 1: facing a six point six million dollar cut in their budget. Joe,
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  Speaker 1: wasn't it? Last week the SINCINNTI Council passed the resolution
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  Speaker 1: approving eight million dollars for a new music venue, that
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  Speaker 1: River Bend thing that the sins A Symphony orchis is doing,
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  Speaker 1: that they had financing for and funding for even without
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  Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati's resources period. End of story. And
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  Speaker 1: then along came the City of Cincinnati throwing eight million
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  Speaker 1: dollars at it. Now the police are facing a six
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  Speaker 1: point six million dollar budget cut amid a twenty nine
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  Speaker 1: million dollar budget deficit. So I remembered that correctly, didn't I? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: just checking curious do elections have consequences? Where's Christopher Smithman
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  Speaker 1: when you need him to double down on a spleen
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  Speaker 1: that anyhow, FLb president can cover six thirty on the
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  Speaker 1: budget cuts and can we afford a budget cut for
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  Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati. Guess where the money is going
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  Speaker 1: to come from? Right, not filling position vacancies, meaning the
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  Speaker 1: continued of police officers is probably going to be down
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  Speaker 1: on into the future. We'll get details on that in
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  Speaker 1: just a moment. Doubling down on that and following through
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  Speaker 1: with the balance of it. So they got six point
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  Speaker 1: six million dollars in cuts with the police department alone.
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  Speaker 1: That's ken Kober's topic at six point thirty, followed by
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  Speaker 1: Steve Gooden, former councilman. Steve Gooden and our uh, well,
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  Speaker 1: I like to say resident, he's not living here anymore,
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  Speaker 1: but our legal expert Steve Gooden, former countsman, he's going
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  Speaker 1: to talk about the other cuts that are going to
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  Speaker 1: have to take place for the twenty nine and a
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  Speaker 1: half million dollar budget deficit. He'll be on at seven
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  Speaker 1: oh five, followed by Tom Zawistowski from We the People
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  Speaker 1: Convention dot org. Apparently viveg Ramaswam. He's got a plan
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  Speaker 1: for property taxes. Tom's going to talk about that. That's
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  Speaker 1: a big topic in the state of Ohio, considering the
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  Speaker 1: I guess that petition to eradicate property taxes. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if it's still swirling around out there, but we
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  Speaker 1: got a real major problem spe obviously stating the obvious
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  Speaker 1: here with property taxes in Ohio. How are your taxes?
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  Speaker 1: Inside Scoop It is Tuesday, every Tuesday at eight oh
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  Speaker 1: five The Inside Scoop Today the return of the immigration
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  Speaker 1: editor John Bender. National media ignoring the illegals committing crimes
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  Speaker 1: against citizens. Yes they are, Daniel Davis deep dive. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: we'll be talking about the Iranians. I noted that Spain, hey,
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  Speaker 1: NATO ALI ally Ali NATO ally, is now refusing the
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  Speaker 1: United States any use of their airspace at all in
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  Speaker 1: connection with the war with Iran period, end of story.
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  Speaker 1: They have a rather leftist socialist administration there and they
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  Speaker 1: hate Donald Trump, so doubling down on the hatred for
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump by depriving us the access to the airspace
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  Speaker 1: for the military bases that quite literally are in Spain.
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  Speaker 1: I presume to provide Spain with military defense in the
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  Speaker 1: event someone goes after Spain. There's that whole defense agreement
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  Speaker 1: we have with NATO allies who are not in a
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  Speaker 1: position to defend us under mutual defense obligation should we
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  Speaker 1: get attacked by a foreign enemy. Okay, complicated. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: there's our lineup for this morning. That's uh and I
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  Speaker 1: love hearing from you. Maybe you got to comment five
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  Speaker 1: one three, seven, four nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred
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  Speaker 1: and eight to two three talk goth pound five fifty
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  Speaker 1: if you got an ATA T phone. Starting with the
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  Speaker 1: broader problem, the City of Cincinnati projected and twenty nine
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  Speaker 1: and a half million dollar budget deficit. Okay, five hundred
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  Speaker 1: and forty eight million general fund budget for next fiscal year.
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  Speaker 1: Got a problem with that? Twenty nine and a half
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  Speaker 1: a little short, Seth Walsh, and I'll give Scott Wartman
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  Speaker 1: at the inquiring credit for at least talking to people
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  Speaker 1: about this. Not a whole lot of local reporting on
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  Speaker 1: really anything sky Seth Walsh said he's hopeful the city
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  Speaker 1: will avoid any noticeable cuts to service to the services
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  Speaker 1: residents have rated as the most important. What are the
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  Speaker 1: most important? At least acording the reporting from Scott Whartman,
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  Speaker 1: as relayed by Seth Walsh, roads, snow removal, police and fire. Joe,
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  Speaker 1: there's no solar array projects on this, there's no green
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  Speaker 1: energy products that did city since Sinnati not prioritize those
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  Speaker 1: the reparations. You're right, they aren't listed either as a
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  Speaker 1: number one priority or even a top five priority for
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  Speaker 1: the residents of the City of Cincinnati. That's weird, Welsh. Basically,
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  Speaker 1: I would be incredibly disappointed if it came across that
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  Speaker 1: everyone got a five percent cut. In other words, some
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  Speaker 1: areas of city government spending will be cut, and perhaps
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  Speaker 1: they got time to sort of hammer this out. Perhaps roads,
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  Speaker 1: snow removal, police and fire will not be cut. I
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  Speaker 1: think that's a suggestion from Scott, from Seth Walsh, and oh,
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  Speaker 1: let's all blame John cas it Is because he cut
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  Speaker 1: off the funding from the state. This was fifteen years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Fifteen years ago, and they're still complaining about it. City
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  Speaker 1: lost more than three hundred million dollars of state funds
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  Speaker 1: over the past fifteen years. Back in twenty eleven, way
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  Speaker 1: back got forty million dollars from this. I guess the
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  Speaker 1: state making eleven percent of the general fund budget, what
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  Speaker 1: would you do without that? And then the federal dollars
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  Speaker 1: had dried up as well. Yeah, there's no more COVID
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  Speaker 1: money coming in. What do we do Before COVID money
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  Speaker 1: came to the rescue It's noted in Morton's reporting the
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  Speaker 1: city won't have the federal pandemic money that helped it
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  Speaker 1: over the past five years. In twenty twenty five, the
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  Speaker 1: city got twenty five million dollars in one time emergency
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  Speaker 1: funding from the American Rescue Plan Act. And I pause,
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  Speaker 1: and I think about that, you know, going into COVID
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  Speaker 1: nineteen and maybe one of the swirling conspiracy theories or
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  Speaker 1: pattern observations, Marien, have you thought about this one that
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  Speaker 1: cross this great land of ours, democratic cities were a
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  Speaker 1: wash in debt up to their eyeballs in debt, kind
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  Speaker 1: of like the city is right now, maybe, you know,
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  Speaker 1: deficit spending, and along came COVID, and along came built
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  Speaker 1: and I'm sorry, trillions of dollars in federal aid, washing
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  Speaker 1: over cities and giving them the desperately needed money that
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  Speaker 1: they otherwise would have had to dealt with with appropriate
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  Speaker 1: financial planning cuts, perhaps to their unbelievably ridiculous overspending and
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  Speaker 1: the rapacious taxation. Baby, government can't provide everything under the
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  Speaker 1: sun for quote unquote free close quote Oh, here comes
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  Speaker 1: COVID money. We don't have to worry about our budgets anymore.
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  Speaker 1: That's pretty much the size of it. And then back
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  Speaker 1: in twenty eleven, Governor Kasik, remember that slash the local
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  Speaker 1: governments share of the state income tax? Boy or whaling
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  Speaker 1: gnashing of teeth. Hey, we're going back fifteen years. Have
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  Speaker 1: you gotten used to the reality that you're not going
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  Speaker 1: to get that money? Have you baked that into the
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  Speaker 1: budgetary cake yet? Are you still thinking somewhere down the
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  Speaker 1: road someone's going to turn that ship around the opposite direction.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't count on it. According to Kramating, a city
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  Speaker 1: avoided layoffs and major cuts that fell other cities in
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  Speaker 1: township by using money meant for infrastructure to bolster the budget.
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  Speaker 1: In other words, after the government share state income task
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  Speaker 1: had dried up fifteen years ago, what did they do? Well?
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  Speaker 1: They took all that money apparently that was going to
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  Speaker 1: be used to patch the potholes in the roads, which
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  Speaker 1: problem has been growing for literally decades, and rather than
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  Speaker 1: cut government spending in maybe all the areas of the
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  Speaker 1: City of Cincinnati funds. All these NGOs Todd Zenzers identified
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  Speaker 1: multiple recipients of millions and millions of dollars of money
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  Speaker 1: coming out of the City of Cincinnati. Apparently we know
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  Speaker 1: accountability about what they're doing with the money. Maybe that
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  Speaker 1: was an area that could have been cut, but no,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't do any of that. They just I guess
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  Speaker 1: ignored the roads infrastructure, and Cramer Day was pretty honest
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  Speaker 1: with it. We never had that hard conversation in the
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  Speaker 1: City of Cincinnati for a long while. We were playing
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  Speaker 1: games with our capital budget. That's very candid of him.
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  Speaker 1: So City Manager American have to present their recommendation for
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  Speaker 1: budget to Council May by May twenty first, and then
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  Speaker 1: council has till the end of June to pass the
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  Speaker 1: final budget. So in the meantime they'll be entertaining proposals.
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  Speaker 1: Going back to Kramating, I thought this was a rather
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  Speaker 1: interesting and telling statement. Well, he doesn't expect cuts to
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  Speaker 1: be as large as five percent. We'll see the budget
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  Speaker 1: will be leaner. Quote. I think we're looking at cuts.
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  Speaker 1: I think moving forward year after year, that will be
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  Speaker 1: the new reality. Well, I guess he doesn't see this
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  Speaker 1: hole in the budget going away anytime soon. The new
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  Speaker 1: reality perhaps is less coming from the City of Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 1: Really will that impact any human being within the city
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  Speaker 1: limits other than the NGOs? I'm hoping that is the
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  Speaker 1: first area of cuts.
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  Speaker 2: HM.
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  Speaker 1: No, well, lean times, call for action, in appropriate action.
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  Speaker 1: What's the most important thing for the residents of the
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  Speaker 1: city of Citi today? Roads? Nor remove a police and fire. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: let's start with leaving those alone and then cut everything
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  Speaker 1: else over to the over one of the most important
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  Speaker 1: things for the residents of the City of Cincinnati the
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  Speaker 1: aforementioned police, and of course ken Kober's going to be
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  Speaker 1: talking about this. At six point thirty. Interim police Chief
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  Speaker 1: Henny has to deal with a six point scen six
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  Speaker 1: point six million dollar proposed reduction in the department's budget.
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  Speaker 1: How's he going to do it? Accord to the reporting,
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  Speaker 1: ninety percent of the department city a police department's budget
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  Speaker 1: is for personnel, ten percent for operations. So with that
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  Speaker 1: fun fact, Henny said, we were able to provide this
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  Speaker 1: committee with an ability for us to come up with
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  Speaker 1: roughly about six point six million dollar bugs reduction including
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  Speaker 1: here's here's great not filling our position vacancy's allowance that
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  Speaker 1: would cover a three point eight million he said. We
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  Speaker 1: have about two hundred and fifty thousand dollars in miscellaneous
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  Speaker 1: cuts beyond that. The only other way we would be
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  Speaker 1: able to get the other four point three million dollars,
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  Speaker 1: he said, is either by no longer filling the unfilled
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  Speaker 1: positions in our sworn unsworn positions and then also making
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  Speaker 1: other personnel changes. As it relates to that word word word,
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  Speaker 1: word word, I think one of the things that was
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  Speaker 1: suggested was was kicking the cost of the current recruit class.
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  Speaker 1: This is what Henny said, pushed the current recruit recruit
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  Speaker 1: class to the budget for fiscal year twenty twenty eight,
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  Speaker 1: which apparently would give them two point six million dollars
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  Speaker 1: and wiggle room. But then I have to go back
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  Speaker 1: to the crammerting statement that we are going to be
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  Speaker 1: facing this type of hole in the budget moving forward
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  Speaker 1: year after year after years, since that apparently is the
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  Speaker 1: new reality. So by kicking the cost of the current
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  Speaker 1: recruit class into next year's budget doesn't really solve the problem, then,
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  Speaker 1: does it. Five one, three, seven, four nine fifty five hundred,
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  Speaker 1: on those topics this morning. I'm looking forward to getting
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  Speaker 1: their expertise coming up. I hope you can stick around
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  Speaker 1: following Michigan politics. US Senate seat. Michigan Democrat running for
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  Speaker 1: that Senate seat revealed to well for who he actually
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  Speaker 1: is and also revealing a Democratic strategy. Leaked audio showing
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  Speaker 1: him explaining why he shouldn't take a position on the
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  Speaker 1: death of Supreme Leader Kamani. Remember when we blew him up.
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  Speaker 1: They were on Supreme Leader Kamane just recently, fairly recently
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  Speaker 1: a progressive Democrat, is how he's described his name. Abdul
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  Speaker 1: l saied. Yes, we are in the United States. This
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  Speaker 1: is a US election. Parenthetically recorded in his staff meeting
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  Speaker 1: strategizing about how to address the Iranian leader's death following
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  Speaker 1: us killing him. So he is strategizing with his people
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  Speaker 1: about press reporters asking tough questions. He's heard saying, if
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  Speaker 1: pressed by a reporter on the death of former Supreme
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  Speaker 1: Leader Commanie quote, I'm just gonna go straight to pedophilia. Frankly,
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  Speaker 1: I'll just be like pedophile. President decides that he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: like the front page News. So he decides to take
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  Speaker 1: us into another war, and that I believe sums things
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  Speaker 1: up quite nicely, doesn't it. First off, Joe, do you
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  Speaker 1: have any idea where this whole idea Donald Trump's a
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  Speaker 1: pedophile came from. I know it's a talking point, but
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  Speaker 1: there's no factual predicate behind it. I know nothing Epstein pedophile.
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  Speaker 1: Epstein files no information about Trump, and there in fact,
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  Speaker 1: Trump was determined to be one of the first people
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  Speaker 1: that ever dropped the dropped the dime onto the police
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  Speaker 1: department about Epstein's being a pervert pedophile Trump. I've heard
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  Speaker 1: that so many times. There's your talking point, period, end
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  Speaker 1: of story. The word goes out. Just always refer Donald
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  Speaker 1: Trump as a pedophile. Don't have to explain it because
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  Speaker 1: I as a press reporter. First off, you didn't ask
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  Speaker 1: the question about how you feel about the death of
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  Speaker 1: the former Supreme Leader of Iran. What does pedophile president
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  Speaker 1: have to do with that? Okay, let's concede you're nonsensical.
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  Speaker 1: I was going to say bs and actually say it
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  Speaker 1: out loud. I had to catch myself there. It's tough
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  Speaker 1: to do sometimes your nonsensical argument, but you didn't ask
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  Speaker 1: what your response was to the death of the Iranian president.
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  Speaker 1: So can you get to that? If you want to
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and talk about President Trump being a pedophile,
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  Speaker 1: I can ask more elaborate questions about how you reach
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  Speaker 1: that conclusion beyond just turning to your Democrat prepared talking
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  Speaker 1: points and reciting them. See this, to me is a
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  Speaker 1: plain illustration that sort of I'm going to go with
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  Speaker 1: pedophile President. That's the default that exists in so many
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  Speaker 1: of their eyes or minds. If they say it enough times,
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  Speaker 1: the idiot public will believe it. It's a sad reflection
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  Speaker 1: of how dumb they presume we all are. They are
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  Speaker 1: using useful idiots. You're helping them pedophile President Trump. If
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  Speaker 1: you say that, you're like, what, You're part of the problem.
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  Speaker 1: Look behind the venear of the statements you're uttering. But
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  Speaker 1: then he went on, we're talking about the former Supreme Leader.
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  Speaker 1: I ron. I also want to remind you guy, he
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  Speaker 1: says him talking to his folks in the room. I
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  Speaker 1: also want to remind you guys that there are a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people in Deerborn who are sad today. So like,
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  Speaker 1: I just don't want to comment on Kamanee at all,
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  Speaker 1: Like I don't think it's worth even touching that. Here
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  Speaker 1: we are in the United States of America, we have
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  Speaker 1: a COMMI candidate abil El sayed, appealing to citizens of
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  Speaker 1: the United States of America through his strategizing, he won't
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  Speaker 1: mention Kamane's death because they are sad someone who would
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  Speaker 1: like nothing more than to see the United States eradicated
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  Speaker 1: from the face of the map. That's what the constituents
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  Speaker 1: Spence five thirty coming up at five thirty one. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I was right, Maureene was paying attention to my comments
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  Speaker 1: about COVID money bailing out otherwise underwater cities, which also
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  Speaker 1: pointed out to money laundering, election fraud, mail and voting.
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  Speaker 1: I could go on and on, she points out. I know, Maureen,
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  Speaker 1: now you convinced me. After all these years you've been
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  Speaker 1: correcked on the conspiracy theory, it turns out you were
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  Speaker 1: just observing patterns. I've won three seven four nine fifty
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  Speaker 1: going on here in local stories. Of course, the big story,
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  Speaker 1: which we're going to be talking about a lot more
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  Speaker 1: later in the program with FOP President Ken Cobra and
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  Speaker 1: Steve Gooden. The twenty nine and a half million dollar
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  Speaker 1: city budget deficit and the proposed cut of six point
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  Speaker 1: six million dollars to our friends in the Cincinni Police Department.
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  Speaker 1: I just am still wondering if the eight million dollars
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  Speaker 1: allocated to the Riverbend music venue that they're building now
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  Speaker 1: with us, since they sinef any orchestra that's going to
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  Speaker 1: go by the wayside too. Priorities, priorities. I think this
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  Speaker 1: one's a bad idea banning large scale data centers in Ohio.
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  Speaker 1: It's up maybe up to you. According to the the
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  Speaker 1: the ballot measure that is being circulated and just approve
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  Speaker 1: by Ohio Attorney Dental Jay Attorney General Dave Yost, who
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  Speaker 1: verified the request for this ballot measure, Ohio Residence for
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  Speaker 1: Responsible Development seeking to bang this ban on the ballot.
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  Speaker 1: It would ban data centers using more than twenty five
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  Speaker 1: megawatts per month. The restriction, they say would eliminate most
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  Speaker 1: of the large scale projects that are already proposed in
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  Speaker 1: the Tri state area, including developments at old power plant
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  Speaker 1: sites in Adams County. According to Ali Kramer WCPO doing
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  Speaker 1: the reporting, Thank you, Ali your self has verified the
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  Speaker 1: re for the ballot measure over the last Friday. To
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  Speaker 1: get the issue on the ballot, they need upwards of
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  Speaker 1: seven hundred thousand voter signatures by July first. That's a
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: bit of a Sisaphian challenge right there. Anyway. A guy
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: named Ben Murray interviewed is building a home in Adams County,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: works for an organization Food and Water Watch. Says this
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: group is also called for a more time on the
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: data center, saying this is not economic development in the
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: traditional sense because we're not talking about bringing jobs back
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: in a meaningful way. AI being rolled out through replace
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: jobs and a lot of parts of the economy. So
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I just want to make sure if people want this
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: to happen here, people understand the pros and cons of it. Well,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: you know, the world is ever changing. No, we're not
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: talking about bringing jobs back in the traditional sense. AI
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: is new. It's cutting edge. The world is going in
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: that direction, like it or not. We're stuck with it.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Question is do you want to be a part of
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: it and share in whatever wealth it might bring about,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: or do you want to sit by the wayside and
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: watch everybody else move forward with the reality of modern times.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I think you can still have some control over whether
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: or not you approve a data center in your county.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: That's what county commissioners are about, and that's what count
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: councils are about, and that's what citizen activism is all about.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: But I'm sure there are counties, as evidence by the
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: projects that are moving forward already, that want the development there.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: So anyway, this guy warned the public to be wary
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: attacks in cent is being offered at local and state
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: level for the projects. Well, of course you should, so
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: broadbrush effort to kill data centers they think probably a
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: bad idea. Go to the city of sin say two
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: people hospitalize after separate shootings and over the Rhine cord
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: to since a police happened Saturday ten minutes happened within
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: ten minutes Saturday of each other, one shooting inside a
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: home a forced fourteen East mcmickinn Avenue, of the other
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: one thirty six East Clinton. Please say both people taking
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: a UC Medical center with non life threatening injuries. Polease
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: say they do not know if the two shootings are connected.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: No suspects identify, Please still investigating. I'll just go ahead
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: and offer three five two thirty forty five point three
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: three five two thirty forty if you have any information
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: about at Crime Stoppers is probably a great number to call.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: And thank you Joe Strekker for reminding the listeners that
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: the UH impacted areas here and over the Rhine went
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent roughly for aftab Provoll and the current
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: makeup of council, which are busily handling the deficit they're
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: facing now and getting ready to cut six point six
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: million dollars from the police budget. Need I remind you
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: the police on the top of the list of things
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati residents actually want five thirty five
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: fifty five kosit. The talk station, Oh look, stack is stupid.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Let's go down that road coming back or your phone calls,
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  Speaker 2: This is fifty five KRC, an iHeartRadio station.
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• 23:11
  Speaker 1: It is five forty on a Tuesday. I hope you're
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: having a decent one got a stack of stupid in
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  Speaker 1: front of me. Hey, Joe, what's the most money you'd
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: ever pay for a bottle of wine? Standard bottle seven
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty milllion later twenty bucks. Well, right here
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: on top of the stack of stupid, which I placed
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: on top of the stack of stupid. Some idiot paid
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: eight hundred and twelve thousand, five hundred dollars for a
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: single bottle of seven hundred fifty milli liter bottle of wine.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I just have to observe that, you know, covetousness, greed,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: and envy the source of all problems in the world,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: of course, the predicate behind Marxism, communism, and socialism. Well,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: this is the kind of fodder Marxist used to make
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: an argument for wealth redistribution. Yep, it was at an
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: auction eight hundred and twelve thousand, five hundred dollars for
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: a bottle of Domain de Romany County. Apparently this is
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: a hot wine. Nineteen forty five vintage had previously in
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: twenty eighteen had the original record selling for five hundred
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: and fifty eight thousand dollars, So it's gone up by
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: about fifty percent At least in an auction I just
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: have to question whether someone would drink it. Apparently yes.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: The chairman of the auction house that sold it had
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: this to say, in part, I've had the privilege of
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: tasting in nineteen forty five or Romany County just three
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: times in my life. And that's enough of the quote.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: H New Jersey guide now behind bars for groping the
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Easter Bunny at a Pennsylvania shopping center. What the hell,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: please say? Shiva Krishna Barra, who's thirty six in the
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: South Hills Village Mall in Pittsburgh on Monday, When he
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: approached the area where a woman dressed as an Easter
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: money was posing for photos, please say, Bara began questioning
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: the costume character, who directed his inquiries to her assistant.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: At one point, the assistant told police Bara asked about
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: who was inside the costume, saying is it a boy
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: or a girl? According to the criminal complaint, Bara then
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: began touching the costume woman's arm and chest and grabbed
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: her breast. Also allegedly shoved his fingers into the nose
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: and mouth of the Easter bunny's costume head. What subsequently
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: arrested inside a movie theater near the mall. When questioned
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: by officers about the incident, Bara reportedly asked, quote, it's
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: a doll right close. Quote When told a person was
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: inside the costume, he said, oh, my mistake, my hand
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: touched her. If it's a lady charged with n decent
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: assault and harassment locked up on a ten thousand dollars
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: baill in advance of his preliminary hearing on the second
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: of April. It's called the Bunny Photo Experience at the mall.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Think you signed up for that? Hazard is paid?
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Did you?
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: A trailer with four sheep, including an all white baby,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: was reportedly stolen from the Holiday Inn on the northwest
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: side of Indianapolis. Happened over the weekend. Indianapolis Metropolitan Police
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: report said about eight o'clock in the morning, a truck
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: carrying a livestock trailer containing four sheep reportedly stolen from
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: the Holiday Inn. Online posts from the possible owner states
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: of the truck had been recovered, but the trailer and
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: all four sheep were still missing. Trailer described as a
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: silver Cimarron Show Star trailer, estimated is sixty five thousand
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: dollars value, with the sheep being worth around thirty eight
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: hundred dollars for four sheep. They do have callers identifying
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: them and their numbers are listed in the news reporting,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: which I will not list the sheep, encouraging anybody familiar
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: with the incident called nine to one one immediately. What
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: is this comment about Pappis? Just got back from Indie coincidence.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: There's no flag for us.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: That's your writing, isn't it, Joe Pappis who you referred to?
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: You wouldn't mean former Anderson Township trustee Drew Pappas when
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: you wrote that? Would you just asking for for Drew?
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Here's an odd one. Got a Louisiana man and census
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: thirty sentence thirty years in prison for killing and dismembering
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: his girlfriend, whose headless torso was found stuffed in a
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: freezer inside an old bus on his property. Distre Court
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Judge Benedict Willard ordered Benjamin Beale thirty eight, to serve
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: the sentence in a state correctional facility for killing Julia
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Darter handed down the sentence after Bill, who had initially
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: been charged with murder, reached the deal with prosecutors, pleading
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: guilty to manslaughter. Reportedly been facing a maximum sentence of
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: forty years initially reported. She was initially reported missing by
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: family members in December of twenty one. The following month,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: authorities executor to search were on on Bill's home. Investigators
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: coming through the property found an old blue bus secured
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: with a padlock, parked in the backyard of the home.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: According to the AFFIDAVI, investigators utilized the key to unlock
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: the padlock and made entry into the bus. Upon opening
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: the lid of the freezer, investigators deserved the headless torso
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: of what appeared to be an adult human female, a
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: deep linear cut visible along the left shoulder upper arm area,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: which appeared to have been inflicted post mortem.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Do what the hell?
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: That ice chest and the property also contained a reciprocating
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: saw that authorities said appeared to have bits of flesh
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: and fluid on the blade. After the search. In Orleans,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: NBC affidavit WDSU local news report of the victim was
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: the female who had been completely severed. Station also said
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: that Darter and bel had been dating, but we're having
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: relationship problems when she went missing. Thank you Joe. He
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: also found a hidden meth lab inside Bill's home after
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: finding her remains, kerosene glass dishes, white powder, pro pane,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: a Coleman grill, and acid tone. Arrested in transport of
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: the New Orleans Police Department headquarters. Reportedly refused to cooperate
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: with investigators, provide a statement, or answer any questions about
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: the body or the alleged drug lab. Booked into the
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: New Orleans Parish jail schedule to go to trial for
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: her murder in August by forty six. Sorry about that.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: That would be my coffee buck stick around. More stupid
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: coming up after I mentioned the talk station. It's five
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: point fifty one fifty five KERSD talk station. Happy Tuesday.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Sack of stupid Going to Maine where seventy one year
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: old man has been accused of killing his best friend,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: allegedly stabbing this sixty four year old man several times
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: and leaving his body lying just a few feet from
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: where he was watching TV inside his apartment when the
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: police showed up. Gary Brinson facing one kind of intentional
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: or knowing murder in the twenty twenty four slaying of
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Lee Rona. Both men described as combat veterans, living the
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: same apartment and regularly getting together to drink alcohol and
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: forget about their PTSD Portland, Spring based local news there
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: reporting that both men reportedly split more than a gallon
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: of bourbon and more than twenty beers before Rona was killed.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Holy crap. He reportedly called nine to one one, telling
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: me the dispatcher, I got a dead guy laying on
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: my bed. Asked by the dispatcher if he killed Rona,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Brinson reportedly denied and saying why would I kill my
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: best friend. One of the first responding officers testify in
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: court that when he entered the home, Brinson was sitting
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: in a chair, holding a bottle of bourbon and watching television.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Quote within arm's reach close quote of the friend's corpse
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: officer speaking with the court. There's blood everywhere in the apartment,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: on the floor, over on the bed, the bed sheath,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: the walls, and he was just sitting there watching TV
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: like nothing was wrong. Autopsy conducted by the examiner reportedly
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: found Rona suffered nearly one hundred and fifty shallow skin
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: level puncture rooms five deeper stab wounds in the back.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Do what the hell? Also revealed a fractured spine and
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: several fractured ribs. Medical examiner determined rose manner of death
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: be homicide and the cause of death to be multiple
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: sharp and blunt force injuries. Brinson at the police department
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: and told investigators he would have been better off and
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: if he had just thrown the body in the dumpster.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: His words, Police said Brinson was clearly intoxicated. Next day,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Brinton reportedly spoke to detectives and a hope in his
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: hotel room, made several statements, including quote, They've got me,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I've done it. I'm going to jail. Hotel room where
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: he was staying at the time, had been paid for
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: by the department because brinson home was being processed as
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: a crime scene. If they don't have a lock up,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Brinson levely said a stepdaughter a test message text message
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: saying he quote beat the S word out of my lee,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: apologizing to her before adding a side I thought was
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: over with his back, huh this he's got some demons
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: running around his head. Defense attorney argued that Berinston likely
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: so drunk he would have been unable to act in
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: an intentional manner that is a critical component of the
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: intentional murder charge. Defense attorney said, we expect you to
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: learn that intoxication may create reasonable doubt that a defendant
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: is acting in an intentional or no intentional or knowing way.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: You may find out that the defendant's level of intoxication
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: undermined the state's ability to establish beyond reasonable doubt. Prosecutors
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: assert that alcohol only stoked the anger, since an attorney said,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: with the evidence taken all together, compels one conclusion in
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: an alcohol fueled rage, Benson beat his drinking buddy to death,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: and you should find him guilty of intentional and knowing murder.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: A gallon of bourbon and twenty beers. It doesn't say
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: over what period of time, but I mean, how many
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: weeks would that last the normal person? Five fifty five?
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Fifty five cares? That's just stack is stupid. What can
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: I say? Fifty five cares? The detalk station don't go
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: away because after the top of the airnews we got
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: some time before we get to the bottom of the
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: r FOP President Ken Kober. Can the police handle a
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: six point six million dollar cut in the budget that's
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: coming their way? Steve Gooden on the budget as well.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: He'll be on at seven oh five about the twenty
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: nine and a half million dollar hole the city finds
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: itself in. Plus Tom Zawastowski in the seven o'clock hour
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: as well. Stick around be right back after the news
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  Speaker 1: talkstation six six to fifty five Karasee the talkstation, Happy Tuesday.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: If you can see it, listen to lunch tomorrow. Liberty
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Collective is where we're going to be, Liberty Township. Great place.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Lisa sounds like I'm looking forward to trying for the
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: first time a whole bunch of different restaurants and options
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: for food and thirty beers which you can self serve.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: I like you bringing that up because I think it's
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: a good idea. That'll be tomorrow about eleven thirty Liberty
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Collective and just search for Liberty. I think the website
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: is Liberty dash Collective dot com. But if you just
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: seen Liberty Collective restaurants, you'll find it. Liberty Township, Ohio.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Coming out bottom of the our FLP President Kencobe apparently
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: the City of Sin Saint's facing a massive budget deficit
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: which is going to go on into the future. According
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: to Jeff cramert encouncement. Karramitting says this is the norm
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: from now on his not his words, mind, twenty nine
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: point five million dollar budget deficit and they're talking about
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: potential across the board five percent cuts, which ment infested
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: itself in a specific cut. Turning to the police department
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: specifically six point six million dollar budget cut potential inner
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Police Chief Adam Hanny proposed somewhere these cuts might come from,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: and FLP President Ken Cobra at bottom of the hour
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: is going to react to that and find out can
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: the police department cut? This is one thing the police
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: actually are. Something the residents of the City of Cincinnati want,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: which was acknowledged in yesterday's council meeting. Nobody wants a
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: solar panel. Let me just emphasize that nobody except after
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: have purval apparently, and he gets what he wants. And
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: I guess maybe that eight million dollars that they had
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: already allocated or at least approved by way of resolution
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: for the new music venue, maybe that's going to go
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: the way of the DODO too, because I'd rather have
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: six point six million dollars stay with the police department
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: than go to a new music venue that didn't expect
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati's cash when they propose the thing
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: in the first place. Er do elections have consequences? A
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: rhetorical question, So Ken Cobra coming to bottom of the hour,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: followed by Steve good In an hour seven oh five
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: with Steve, he will talk about the rest of the
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: twenty nine and a half million dollar deficit. But I
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: guess the interesting component that emerged about that was the
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: comment from the statement from Cramerton speaking with Scott Wartman
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: over the Inquirer. I think we're looking at cuts, he said.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: I think moving forward year after year, that will be
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: the new reality. So I don't know that cuts the
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: city services are desperate measure, but maybe this is this
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: desperate times will force well more educated, logical prioritization when
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: it comes to where they want to allocate the money. Again,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Seth Walsh, talking to the Inquirer said, rhoads, snow removal,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: and police and fire are what residents want. They have
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: been raided by residents as the most important. Nothing in
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: there that green policies, nothing in there about an extension
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: of the streetcar line. We could go on and on
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: and on and on. Seven Tom z Awastowski after Steve
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Goodin departs, we'll get Tom z Awastowski from we the
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Preeopleconvention dot Org about vvig Ramaswam. He's planned for property taxes,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: which I guess is still a thing going on about there.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: There was just an article belief it was Yester Yeah,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: yesterday credit to Fox eight about the statewide ballot initiative
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: that's being circulated. Apparently needs four hundred thousand signatures. This
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: is the constitutional amendment to eradicate property tax in the
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: state of Ohio. The person behind the organization gout named Massy,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: not Thomas Massey anyway, He's pointed out he needs abot
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: four one thousand six ers on the petition to get
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: it on the ballot November, but he has not disclosed
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: how many this organization has collected, saying, quote, I'm the
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: only person in the state of Ohio that knows how
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: many signatures we have, and I'm not telling anyone. So
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: still being circulated, I guess you still have the opportunity
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: to sign on to it. But then what do we
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: do in the absence of property taxes? A bit of
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: a sticky wick it for our elected officials in Cleveland,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: and I know some out there may start screaming about fraud, waste,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: and abuse, and we're going to be doing without the
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: alleged twenty four billion dollars that take the state takes in,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: or collectively we take in in the state of Ohio
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: and property taxes. That money's going to have to come
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: from somewhere. The complicating issue in all the property tax
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: eradication efforts, where will that money come from? Maybe maybe
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: if you walk through this going back to that desperate
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: times call for desperate measures, maybe this challenge that our
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: senators and our representatives here in Ohio will be facing
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: if the property tax amendment goes through and they are eradicated,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: maybe it require responsible cuts to government programs and spending,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: because I think collectively we can all generally acknowledge that
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: we have a spending problem on our hands at the
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: federal level, state level, and at a local level here
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: in the City of Cincinnati as well. Coming up an
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: eight oh five Inside Scoop with Bright Barton is today
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: we get the immigration editor, the return of John Bender,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: to talk about the national media ignoring the murders and
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: other crimes committed by illegal illegal residents in this country
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: against citizens. Murders, rapes, child molestation. A day does not
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: go by where we don't come up with a find
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: another illegal immigrant committing some heinous crime. Daniel Davis deep dive.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Of course he'll be talking about the Iranians and the
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: most recent development is Spain saying you can't use our
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: airspace anymore. Let's go to the phones. Who a Mississippi
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  Speaker 1: James got today?
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: James.
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  Speaker 1: Always good to hear from you, my friend. Welcome back
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  Speaker 1: to the morning show.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, good morning doctor Brian, and I'm back in your
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: fine not so fine city.
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  Speaker 1: Istic Oh, welcome back man. If you can make it
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  Speaker 1: to lunch, you know, I love seeing you and your
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: beautiful bride when you come to listen to lunch Liberty Collectives.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: The place will be tomorrow if you can make it.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: No pressure.
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  Speaker 3: Now, is there a certain location out there? Is that
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: a large complex?
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: That's what it's called. No, it's one big built or
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: one big call it. Let's say if you looked at
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: a restaurant, a free standing restaurant, there it is. That's
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: kind of what it is. Except inside it's like a
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: food court where you've got a whole bunch of different
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: restaurants and coffee shops. And I think there's a doughnut
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: place and a bar or a couple of bars, so you
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: get to pick which food you want. There's an Asian
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: spot and a barbecue spot, burgers and all that. Pick
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: what you want, bring your food out into the center
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: of the court and sit down with the listeners and
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: enjoy the fellowship at listener lunch.
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  Speaker 3: Sounds good, we'll be.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: There, great, great, great great. That's great news. Man, So
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: you didn't call to talk about listener lunch. What's on
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: your mind today, James, That's.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: What I did. I'm taking a light.
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: I'm just selling back in, so won't get into too
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: much heavy.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: That's okay with me, man, So listener Lunch. It's Liberty
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Dash collective dot com located at sixty seven thirty five
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Lakota Lane, Liberty Township. Looks like it's really easy to
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: get to them. Choking and looking at a map right now.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: So if you look at the selections there, the Caldaisy
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Bourbon and Wine Bar, the Caldaisy Island Coffee Company, something
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: called Collective Poor and that's where you get to experience
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: thirty taps of rotating beers in Liberty Township's first self
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Poor Wall. Mosey on up to the bar and get
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: your own beer. They also have a main bar. It's
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: the place for craft cocktails and bruise moving past that
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: there's also a mezzanine bar. They've got plenty of alcohol there,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: that's for sure. Roberto and Miguel's authentic Guatemalon inspired tacos
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: and burritos with fresh homemade sides. Rice Life described it
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: as putting a unique spin on Teppanyaki traditions, flavor infused
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Hibachi style entrees crafted with expert technique. We go to Lulu's,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: taking pride in crafting the finest French macaroons in town,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: along with other sweets, cookies and crispies and things missus
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Lee Lee's or Lili's not sure, handcrafted breaded chicken tenders,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: handcut fries, onion rings, fresh healthy sounds, bristols where you
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: can get looks like a barbecue selection award winning wings,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: double decker cheeseburger, smokes barbecue or spicy Italian beef, and
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: finally Ramundo Pizza Familia. They say it's paying homage to
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Italian roots, family and tradition. So see, you got a
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: whole bunch of things to choose from Tomorrow eleven thirty
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: about the time Liberty Dash collective dot com and they're
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: really excited about having us out there. Debbie the woman
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: who lines up the spots for a listener lunch. So
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: they're looking forward to seeing us out there, So I
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: hope we have a really good turnout. I can't remember
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: the last time we were in Liberty Township area for
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: a listener lunch. So that's on the agenda for tomorrow.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: All right, stick around, I take more phone calls. I'd
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: like to hear from someone in the next segment. We
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: got a little bit more to talk about, of course,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: before we get to Fresident Ken Kobra, which should be
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: a rather interesting conversation considering that the contingent of police
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: officers is still down. We are fighting what seems to
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: be even more crime. We have this national phenomenon of
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: youth outbreaks. They circulate on social media that they're going
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: to do a takeover, and they well pretty much make
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: good on their aims. They take over, and the police
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: get overwhelmed, and you and I struggle mightily in dealing
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: with it. It's a growing phenomenon. So is it the
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: great time for us to cut six and a half
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: million dollars out of the police budget. No, I don't
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: think so, And I gotta imagine Ken kober agrees with
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: me on that ultimate point we'll hear from Ken coming
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: up at the bottom of this hour. Peter Sbrig caught
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: the station fifty ker City Talk station. Good morning, Christopher SMITHAM,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: and he's out there listening. He just chimed in on
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: the budget deficit five dollars. He was just reminding me
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: five million dollars per year to operate the street car.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: He mentioned Iris Rolli's six hundred and fifty thousand dollars contract.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you're looking for places to cut wondered
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: out loud, if you think the city, residents of the
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: city would really miss the street car if it wasn't
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: there anymore. My suggestion, no, they wouldn't. Good points, Christopher,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: As always Smith event from Monday fifty five cars dot Com.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: What saie, Jim? Weird?
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: Jim?
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: I was thinking about you a minute before you called in,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: wondering where in the hell you've been. How come you
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: don't call anymore? And how come you don't show up
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: but listen to lunch anymore? I miss seeing you and
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: hearing from you.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: It seems like every month, my damn voctor, excuse my language.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: He has me on Wednesdays, and if I get out
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: of there, if he kicks me out before eleven o'clock tomorrow,
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: I will definitely be there. But I even tell him
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: make it another day.
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: And he goes, that's the day you're scheduled for. Well,
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: I got to do what the doctor tells me.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: You know. You know how that one goes in terms
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: of prioritization. You are making the right choice, Jim. I'm
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: just telling you personally, I miss having you around it,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: listening to lunch and hearing from you.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: So that's all I understand.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Expression. It's expression of love.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: U.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Other than that, I don't want to call because my
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: blood pressure has been okay.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: Lately, and you know, I read and hear this crap.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: But I want to say something that you will.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Probably remember about maybe five, six, seven years ago whatever,
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Quinn living in Qualls. We're out there peaching, preaching and
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: speaking about the fact that they wanted the cops down
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: to three hundred or seven hundred and fifty six officers.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Well they're getting their ish because it's getting to the
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: point where the defunding the cops are going to keep
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: going and going and going. And for some reason it
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: gets talked about with Cannill probably attests to this. The
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: recruit classes are getting smaller if they can find anybody to.
• 45:46
  Speaker 6: Get into the recruit class.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: And the fact that they just they find a reason
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: not to have people in the police classes. So you
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: know they're down. And I know the government money was
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: supposedly under anything under a thousand officers, they were supposed
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: to give money back. Well, I don't know if that
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: thing still holds it on, but they're they're getting their wish.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, Quinn Living was out of it about this
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: for that and the city that sings.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: So it's no longer driven by police bad evil. We
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: need to get rid of them as an out loud statement.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Now it's defunding the police by saying, oh, this is
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: a matter of urgency and necessity. We're out of money.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: We need to cut them just because we don't have
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: the dollars rolling in, not because they spend too much
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: money and a whod bunch of different programs and things
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: that nobody wants. Christopher Smithman acknowledge street car five million
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: dollars annually. But they're using the argument of a bad
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: budget to defund the police without saying the purpose is
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: to defund the police.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: Correct a music.
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  Speaker 2: Venue, I mean eight million dollars and skateboard you know,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: yeh you, Oh my god, we can go back and forth.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: We need in mister, mister brilliant Zinser in there to
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: yeah men, I'm thinking to Ken Kober, I'm sorry.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: Ten minutes ago.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Sorry.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: You know, he would get in there with a sharp
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: pencil and you know, cut these things and we would
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: end up with more cops and more firemen and things
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: like this, and we wouldn't have stupid things like venue
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: music venues. Sorry for being so early, that's okay.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I wanted to get It's good to hear from you, Jim.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I'm glad and yes we all agree cancer sucks. We
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: have time for a real quick break. Joe from uh
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: real quick Cleveland, Al got to get your call in
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: here for the break. You got a minute, okay, it's
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: very quick.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: I think this slipped out of your lips before you
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: even thought about it. But you actually moved the state
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: government from Columbus to Cleveland, and I just wanted to say,
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: our political stench up here is enough. We don't need
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: the rhinos up here too.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: I have wonderful thanks Cleveland out appreciate you. Tenning in
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: from Cleveland, I'm sorry, for this suggestion that I was
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: gonna move state government to Cleveland. Unlike Rush Limba, I
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: have never in my life said that I am perfect
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: and never make a mistake. Happy that I have listeners
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: the student enough to call me out on it, I
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: do appreciate it. Stick around here, fifty five Cars Decalk Station,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: or a happy Tuesday to you, except when you're talking
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: about the City of Cincinnati's budget, which is not a
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: happy subject matter with a twenty nine and a half
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: million dollar budget deficit and the demands on the Cincinni
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Police Department increasing seemingly almost every single day. Thank you
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: for returning the fifty five Cars Morning show to talk
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: about the proposed six point six million dollar budget cut
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: for the police department. FOP President Ken Kober, thank you
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: for joining us this morning. Now I Ken here, your morning, Brian.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: How are you.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: I'm doing fine. I'm just scratching my head over this
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: budget deficit. Apparently they can't live without federal and state dollars.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: They've been dealing with this problem for years and years
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: and years. And thank god for COVID because apparently would
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: have facing massive deficits over the past five or so years.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Plugged holes thanks to COVID money. But Jeff Cramerting said
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: it straightforward in the reporting he was talking to Scott
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Wortman from the Inquire regarding this twenty nine and a
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: half million dollar deficit. He said, I think we're looking
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: at cuts. I think moving forward year after year, that
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: will be the new reality. So looking on into the future,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: that looks like gloom and doom for the budget. Pivoting
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: over yesterday, Interim police Chief Adam Henny's looking into cuts,
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: talking about a six point six million dollar budget cut
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: for the police department, and it looked to me from
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: the reporting from Fox nineteen he's struggling to find places
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: where he can cut because the vast majority of the
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: budget for the police department is for police officers, which
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: he suggested might include cuts of not filling the vacancies
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: that exist. Ken Cober, your reaction to this, please.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: Well, it's not surprising. I mean you look at how
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Mismanner's money has been in this city. It does not
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: surprise me. And they're right there should be cut, but
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: it should be cuts of spending, not cuts of workforce,
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: not cuts of police, not fire, not public works. But
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: until they decide that they're going to prioritize, you know,
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: the things that are really truly important. We're going to
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: continue to be in the same place. You know, they
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: can continue, like you said, throw throw more stuff on
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: the police. You know, we're about one hundred officer short.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: They expect the police to be at every single thing.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: If you want those things where you're gonna have to
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: pay for it, And that's the reality of it. I
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: guess we'll see what decisions they decide to make, but
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: they won't spending money on music venues and reparations. We
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: probably wouldn't be in this position.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Well, and I'm glad you wrote the music venue. But
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: I saw the headline yesterday afternoon, like six point six
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: million dollars budget cut for the police. When all of
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: this is going on, crime is a dominant topic topic
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: of of what's going on the city of Cincinnati, obviously
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: with the riots, the beatdowns, opening day, Holly getting punched
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: in the face, people getting stabbed and murdered, little children
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: getting shot in parks. Everybody wants more police, it seems,
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: and in fact, uh, someone admitted it yesterday about priorities
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: in city government. Seth Walsh talking to Scott Wortman residents
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: have rated the most important things for the city to
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: spend money on roads now, removal, police and fire. There's
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: nothing in there about the eight million dollars that they
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: that the resolution last week approved for the new music
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: venue over where the swimming pool and the river bend
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: used to be. What in the hell's with that?
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it just it just shows you that I
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: don't think, by and large, uh, there's even any thought
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: as to what the citizens actually want. That's whatever they
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: think is best, what they think is best, instead of going, hey,
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: let me let me see what's going on. Whether you know,
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: they just did this survey and they talked about those
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: very things. You know, we want roads, and we want
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: we want safe neighborhoods. No where does it say that
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: we want a music venue out on kell Kellogg Avenue.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: You know the eight zo point two million dollars that
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: they just spent on protesters or what's call what they
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: were rioters from twenty twenty. But yet here we are
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: and their solutions they're going to come up with is
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: this is going to be a surprise to you. Well,
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: we're just going to raise taxes. That way, we'll we'll
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: have more income coming in but that just means they're
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: going more income to spend on things that aren't priorities.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: I guess they haven't gotten the memo Ken, because I
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: tell you what, every single I mean, it's almost every
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: single day, if not certainly every single week. I keep
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: reading about well Democrats trying to increase taxes and actually
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: succeeding in increasing taxes, whether it's on a state or
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: local level, which has the obvious effect of wake up
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: people moving and leaving the high tax area. Do you
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: think raising the taxes in downtown Cincinnati is going to
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: result in growth or expansion or more people wanting to
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: move into the city.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: Can No, of course not.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: And ironically enough, talking last night to my adult son
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: is he's getting ready to be a homeowner himself and
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: is trying to figure out where should I move? Where
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: shouldn't I move? I go, well, you look, first of all,
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: you know what crime looks like in the neighborhood, and
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: then you look and see what taxes are you going
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: to pay? How expensive is it to live in any
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: particular place? Is said, Those are things that have to
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: be considered, and certainly one place that I'm not suggesting
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: that he comes to live is in Cincinnati or Hamilton
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: County for that matter, because taxes are just absolutely out.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: Of control, you know what. And there was just an article,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: I believe it was in the Inquire Redded Life several
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: days ago about they were tracking growth in the surrounding
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: counties and Hamilton County only group point six percent, while
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Brown and Claremont and Warren and the other surrounding counties
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: all grew by sizeably larger margins. Duh, helping yoursel me.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: This isn't surprising, I know.
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: Police.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: Hold on, Ken, We're going to talk a little bit
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: more about this insanity six point six million dollars budget
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: cut for the police. I don't think so. You're going
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: to get it anyway. Probably the talk station fifty five
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: KRCD talk station trying to make it a happy Tuesday.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: Brand Tim was the FOP president. Ken Kober representing the
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: Cincinny Police Departments Union, pivoting over to Chief Adam Henny.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: We're talking about these six point six million dollars in
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: proposed cuts for the police department because the city's got
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: no money either out that's a twenty nine point five
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: million dollar budget deficit. Figuring out ways they can cut
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: across the board, although they apparently at least some of
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: the council people realize that the residents like the police
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: and the fire and roads and snow removal, so those
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: are the most important things for the residents. So why
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: would you go after the cuts and or why would
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: you go after the police department? Which is and please
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: confirm ken cover for me and my listening audience, you're
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: still not operating under a full contingency of police officers. Correct, No,
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: that's correct.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: I mean we're still still trying to get there. I
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: do at least appreciate the fact that well until maybe
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: now that has been funded, but it's still struggle. Trying
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: to get people to want to take these jobs is difficult.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: That we're just going to.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: Continue pressing on until we get back to a full compliment.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: What they realizes that we have a you know, an
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: aging police deportent that's seeing retirements every day. Is an
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: officer stopped by yesterday to turn his paperwork in because
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: he's retiring as well. I mean, this is every week
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: we're running into these things, sometimes two or three people
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: a week. So we're sitting there literally chasing our tail,
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: trying to make up for the people that are leaving,
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: and you know, with these budget cuts certainly aren't going
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: to help anything. I mean, I saw what chief, and
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: he said, I mean the reality is six six and
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: a half million dollars that could be in it. That
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: could be a recruit class. Yeah, I guess we'll see
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: what happens.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: It could be a recruit class. So two things at
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: issue here. One the idea that they're they're potentially cutting
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: six point six million dollars, which certainly could impact the
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: cost of a recruit class. But pivoting over to the
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: other point you kind of made there, I just want
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: to double down on it. Getting people to want to
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: become a police officer remains a challenge. So if you
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: have a recruit class, filling the spots in the recruit
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: class remains problematic and you can't fill them.
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  Speaker 2: Ken, Well, yeah, and now let's look at somebody, a
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: potential recruit that pays attention to your news and what's
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: going on in Cincinnati and s said, well, there are
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: budget cuts, and well the police chief said that we
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: might have to cut recruit classes. So are you going
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: to come here not knowing whether or not you're going
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: to have a stable you know, stable or steady income
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: where you might come here and then be laid off
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: because because of budget cuts. I mean, that's only going
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: to make trying to recruit people, trying to retain people
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: that much harder.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: It certainly is. And then you know the other growing phenomenon,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: and we experienced this with Opening Day, are these roving
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: gangs of lawless youths who use you know, their their
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: instant messaging and their social media profiles to promote street
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: takeovers and basically events designed to ruin the lives of
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: everybody who lives in a neighborhood. I have to imagine
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: that dealing with those and dealing with the idea of it.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: If you're thinking about being a police officer and you
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: see the future, this stuff seemingly only going to get worse.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: And who wants to deal with that kind of thing,
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: especially with this city council and administration that is extraordinarily
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: soft on youth crime.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, without a doubt.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they're certainly not making it very appealing to
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: want to come here, and it does make efforts to
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: recruit that much more difficult. To tell people, Hey, looks,
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: the reality is you might have to deal with thousands
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: of people gathering and you know, just complete disorder, and
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: by the way, you might have to deal with what
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: every weekend. It certainly does become a challenge to recruit
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: people who want to come here.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Well, one other point that Hanny Maade the other day
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: innered police Chief Henny, he suggested that the city needs
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: to spend some money by investing in software, as explained
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: by local media again going back to the Fox nineteen's
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: reporting software that puts all the police departments technology to
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: one place to make it more efficient and allow the
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: city to save money over time, you know, spend money
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: to save money kind of concept. Are you familiar with
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: the type of tech technology he's referring to and what
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: that might mean in reality?
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, our records management system has been a mess forever.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: I mean as long as as long as I've been here,
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: and it's only been twenty six years, but it's always
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: been difficult or to try trying to complete reports and
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: doing it in systems that are just not user friendly.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: So the thought is, of course, if we make something
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: that's user friendly, we have this, it's going to be
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: less time than officers are going to have to spend
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: doing reports and instead they can be out in the
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: communities where of course the public wants them. But it's
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: been a challenge forever, and I mean, who knows how
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: soon it's actually going to be fixed, but it's always
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: been a challenge. And then you switch from one system
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: to another, while you've got to teach these cops to
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: use this new system, and it just becomes it's become
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: something that is very labor intensive, frustrating for officers, and
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: they've got to find a way to make the reporting
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: system to where it's a lot more user friendly.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Well on behalf of my entire listening audience, Ken Kober,
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: thank you for what you're doing, not just for your
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: fellow officers, but as an officer the law on the
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati Police, we truly appreciate it. We along with apparently
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: the residents of the city of Cincinnati, largely love what
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: you're doing and prioritize what you the fire and the
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: road repair crews are doing. So to the City of Council,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: let's get your ducks in a row, Let's get your
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: priorities straight. Let's not cut the police department. Let's do
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: everything we can to improve the reputation the police department
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: and get more recruits in there. Ken Cober, God bless you, sir.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Anytime you want to come on the program, let's talk
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: about these issues. I appreciate your willingness to do it. Man.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Sure well, yeah, well, thank you not only to you,
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: but your listeners as well for your support. We appreciate it.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: We've all got your back. Man, I assure you of that.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Have a good one man, Stay safe six forty six,
• 59:58
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• 1:00:17
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• 1:00:20
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• 1:00:23
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• 1:00:29
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• 1:00:30
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• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: whatever he's talking about is important to what's going on
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: in the city of Cincinnati or maybe matters legal. Steve
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: Gooden from the law firm Orporter Right, our legal expert
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: and of course former counselmen, putting him in a great
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: position to talk about the two or twenty nine point
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: five million dollar budget deficit of the City of Cincinnati,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: along with FOP President Ken Kober's comments on the corollary
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: six point six million dollar cut to the police Apartment.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Steve Good and welcome back, man. It's always great having
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: you on the show.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great to be here. Wish well I didn't
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: have to talk about this. Good to be here.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: B Well, it'd be good if you're a city council person,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: because then you could make arguments in favor of what
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: should be cut and what shouldn't be cut. And I'm
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: sure having served as a Cincinnati councilman for a period
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: of time, you probably have some ideas on that. And
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: I guess I just I actually laughed, literally laughed out
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: loud when I saw the headline about the cuts to
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: the police department, because it was just a week ago
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: that the council approved the resolution for eight million dollars
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: for that music venue over at Riverbend, and I was
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: wondering out loud on that one we talked about here
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: on the morning show. I mean, they hadn't even been
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: asked for money for that one. Originally it was all
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: since a symphony orchestras moving forward with that was one
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: hundred and sixty million dollar project, no city money involved
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: in it. Like, where did this eight million dollar ask
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: come for? And why did the city council prove it?
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: Fast forward a week. They get eight million dollars from
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: music venue, at least they seem to, and now they're
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: going to cut money from the police department, which is
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: desperately needed. Steve, where are we on this? And you know,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: maybe what would a cooler, clearer headed person like you
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: have done or would do in this situation?
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  Speaker 3: Well, well, if I'm the cooler, palmer person, we're all
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: in a bad spot. But I'll tell you. I mean,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: it's just a terrible, terrible thing that's going on with
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: the city right now. I mean, first, let's just pull
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: it all away. It's been an open secret for weeks,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: if not months, that we were heading forward to nearly
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: thirty million dollar budget deficits. I mean, these numbers aren't new.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: The tax or seats have been coming in where they
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: have been quarterly for some time. So the idea that
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: somehow the eight million dollars for the River Bend Center,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: which is going to a ticketed event where we are
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: for higher ends things where people with their disposal income
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: go rather than into law enforcement. Everyone knew when they
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: voted for that eight million that the budget deficit was
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: going to be where it was. Almost all of them
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: they knew or should have known. So it's even worse
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: than it seems on the surface. It's not like they
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: went on a spending spree and then learned that credit
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: card was maxed out because they hadn't been checking their
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: credit card app They knew what was coming. And like
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: the eight million really points to the key problem down
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: there is, you know, these our foot whenever a city
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: council members are talking about stakeholders quote end quote or
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: community partners, what they really mean are the rich people
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: who sit on these nonprofit boards or who sit on
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: the board or something like many that owns River Bend
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: and who they want to impress and who they want
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: to get campaign contributions from. It's not a direct quod
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: bro Quow corruption, like you said with TV sitting feld
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: than others, but it is a kind of soft corruption
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: where they're trying to impruss them with taxpayer dollars. But
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, I just off the top of my head,
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  Speaker 3: if they took that eight million plus the four point
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: five million they spent on this like public safety initiative
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: last year, where they didn't even they had zero results.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: You know, they opened these perfew centers where they only
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: had four kids. The report if they took the three
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: million that they used for the political stunt on medical
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: debt relief that they did right and only in certain
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: neighborhoods right before the election, and they took Irish rolls
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: one million dollar contract. I mean, I just got fourteen million,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: and I haven't even really looked at the budget. So
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: I think it's really you know, just really we're halfway
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: there before we've even sharpened our pencils and looked at
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: the individual departments. So you know, what jo and what
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: they're doing here is really terrible. They're of course going
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: back and blaming you know, blaming Republicans for everything basically.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, they're going over shocking development. Could you believe it?
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: It's not their fault, you know, hey, they're saying that
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: I was.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to ask, how many decades has it
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: been since we had a Republican mayor of the City
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: of Cincinnati. How many how many years has it been
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: since we had you know, a Republican dominated city council.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: So Republicans are at fault, even though the Democrats have
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: been running the city since any for forty years.
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  Speaker 3: That's correct, and I mean it took some creativity to
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: get there, but I mean, I guess council and Jeff Cramertons,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: you know, made this very dire speech yesterday and also
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: said this and the press thing, well, you know, the
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: state has cut the local government fund and that's really
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: put us in a bad spot. Yeah, it was twenty eleven,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: John Kasik, you know who's now a trivia question was
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: the governor And they did, and every other municipality in
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: Ohio sort of adjusted. They needed to cut back some
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: of the state income tax that's maybe going away anyway,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: and give it to the local cities. And then finally,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: I think case it got to a point where the
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: state budget was out of whack the money, there was
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: zero accountability to hero it was meant, so they cut
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: it fifteen years ago. And then I guess they blamed
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: the Trump administration for not renewing the American Rescue Plan money.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: The city's been sort of running year to year off
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: of some of the COVID relief dollars. But of course,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: you know that was designed specifically to replace you know,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: income tact revenue caused by office closing downtown, which it
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: was needed at the time. I don't know that we
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: needed to close all those offices in retrospect, but the
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: money was needed to offset the revenue for operating purposes.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: And now that's gone. So rather than look at the
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: budget and incredibly within your means, you know, there is
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: always pointing to either Columbus or DC as the cause
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: of their problems. It's ab third. There has been a
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: Republican council number now in almost four years. So but
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: yet it is someone else's.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: Fault, always someone else's fault. You know, I didn't see
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: on the list from the survey that the City Cincinnati
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: does every two years or the summary of what's important.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: Seth Walsh said it out loud yesterday and talking to
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: the enquire that the residents have raided roads, snow removal,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: police and fire as most important. Steve Good no one
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: has ever said out loud that it's important for the
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: City of Cincinnati to own and operate, build, own and
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: operate its own solar farm green. How much money is
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: the green agenda? That? I mean, as if the City
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: of Cincinnati's carbon dioxide output is going to have a
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: remote impact on the globe. I mean, that is just insane.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: Steve Gooden, Yeah, it's almost like that they were virtue
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: signaling for runs for future runs for higher office by
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: spending your tax dollars on things might play well in
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: the Democratic primary at some point. I mean, that's all
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: that was. And it's an open secret as all was.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: I think it's out in Brown County or Highland County somewhere,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: and you know, one day, theoretically it's going to provide
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: something to offset some of the bread here instance. I mean,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know. The whole thing is a nonsense to me.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: I know they went out and did a photo op
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: on a cornfield somewhere with some solar panels, and I
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: forget what that one costs, but I think that was
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: upward a sidleion dollars. We're also, as I recall, still
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: subsidizing the street park in nearly ten million a year,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: you know, for free rides that run in a circle,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: for something that is still being built nominally to the public,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: is being funded by and supported by charitable interests in
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: downtown interest. The city's still on the hook for the
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: service contract which is roughly siddally in a year. We're
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: also paying almost that we have so much data city
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: now that if I read the Kaffir correctly, we are
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: paying close to a million dollars a week in interest.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: So that's I mean, that's that's how out of wax
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: things are at this point. And that's just on the
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: operating side. So, I mean, we have a whole capital
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: budget and these restricted funds that are that run the
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: water works and the city's part of the MSD and
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: other things are that natures that are also you know,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: challenged in their own way. But but there's so many
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: things that there's so much money that has gone out
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: the door on pet projects, you know that it's really
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: it's truly absurd. It's really frightening, and that to me
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: is one of the reasons why the railroad keeps coming up,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: you know, like a bad ten here, because even though
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: those funds are restricted and have to go by state
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: laws through two road projects and things of that nature,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: they're clearly the plan is to use those funds. Doesn't
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: excuse to cut back on what they would normally put
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: into the capitol budget and use the cast for yet
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: more pet projects. They're going to use it as an offset,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: not an additive, and that's and that's what I think
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: it's starting to starting to dawn on people. Even a
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: lot of very good, soulful Democrats in the city are saying,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: I'm going to wait, wait a minute here, do we
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: get kind of scammed. The money's restricted, but they're using
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: it as an offset, not an additive, and that's really
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: really disgusting.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: Steve Goodin, I want to hold you over because I
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: want to talk about proposals to resolve this problem, one
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: of which includes maybe increasing the income tax uh and
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: what your perception of how that might work out will
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: mean for the City of Cincinnati. But another thing, this
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: has been an ongoing problem, these budget deficits, going way
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: back before the pandemic. So clearly we have a historic problem.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: And I will chime in again, maybe you need some
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: more Democrats on council and perhaps in the mayor's role
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: more with Steve Gooden at seven fifteen right now fifty
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: five kercdtalk station. Chimney can see the talk station at
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: seven twenty fifty five krc DE talk station. Tom Zawastowski
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: coming up next on v dight Ramaswami's plan for property taxes.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: We the People Convention dot orgs Tom. In the meantime,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: we are talking with Steve Good, and we got Steve
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: Good in the line right now, former council member. He
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: is and going through this budget. Apparently this has been
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: going on a long time. It's reported that prior to
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: COVID nineteen, the city regularly faced deficits of twenty million
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: dollars or more. They say the most dire one showed
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: up in the Great Recession at twenty nine and ten.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: Then city Manager Milton Dahony proposed laying off three hundred
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: employees and one hundred plus police officers. But they didn't
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: have to do that because apparently the unions agreed to
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: defer some benefits. And then they imposed the new trash
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: collection fee that year and cut some other areas, so
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: new fees and that lets me pivot over to the
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: proposal that's going around and swirl around council. Now, Well,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: we're short on deficits, Jeff Kramerting said of the Inquirer yesterday.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: I think moving forward year after year, that will be
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: the new reality, these big cuts and these budget deficits.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: So let's raise the income tax, Steve, how's that for
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: an idea?
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, I'll tell you that's that's everywhere right now.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: And that's been talked about for some time. And what's
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: kind of amazing to me, And I think one of
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: the stories that's not being talked about here when it
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: comes to the income tax is where the business community
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: seems to be. And it's puzzling to me because there's
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: this thing called the Cincinnati Futree Commission Report, which is
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: you know, really a lot of folks that you know,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: it's a lot of CEOs and different people, you know,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: Procter and Gable CEO and others served on this thing,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: and it was nominally designed to fix the city's finances.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: There was a bunch of suggestions by by business people
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: and actually they favored and suggested raising the earning attack.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: They won't, of course set aside the money, as I recall,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: for some sort of housing boondoggle. But it was kind
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: of amazing to me that it typically would be the
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: business community pushing back saying, no, you know, we don't
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: need a higher earning tack. It's a disincentive for people
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: to work in the Senate city. We don't need it,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: But for whatever reason, the business community does seem for
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: at least a lot of the business community seems fine
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: to go along with this thing. So I have a
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: bad feeling it's going to happen. I'm afraid it's just
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: more money that's going to go into into this kind
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: of plus fun kind of scenario. The only way I
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: would ever even cut contemplate going along with something like
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: that is if the money were really set aside for
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: public safety. What happens every time, This is what happened
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: back in two thousand and eight and nine with Milton
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: to Hooney a new reference. Then they were threatening to
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: cut firefighter. This time they're threatening to cut police. You know,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: they couldn't get all departments, but they put the police
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: seep out yesterday. If he's a good so stud of
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: talking about what these touch would look like to his
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: departments and now what would probably mean deferring an entire
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: recruit class with it's badly needed. I mean the police
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: department at least one hundred and fifty officers understrings arguably
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: more so you know that it would you know, the
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: only way I would ever even think of something like
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: that is if you could have depoliticize the police department
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: by having their own stream of income identified. But no,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: I think they're going to do it. I think there's
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: there's some you know, there is support to do it
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: across the board, and I think that's one of the
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: things that's really unfortunate here. There's a lot of folks
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: in the business community, a lot of folks in the
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: same for commerce, who have gone along with what this
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: whole Democratic Council is doing, you know, because it's in
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: their best interest to you know, but to do their
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: development projects and other things of that nature. They have
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: a friendly audience for that, and it really looks like
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: the tax burden on their workers, and it looks like
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: what's going on with public safety has become a secondary
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: concern of that. So, you know, you can count on
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: that going on the ballot. I think you're can also
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: count on organized opposition to it, particularly if it is
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: it's going to be going into the general fund where
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: these guys can spend it at will.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: Well, it's an easy thing to say, we can generate
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: more tax revenue by increasing income taxes, and of course
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: it stands to reason that might happen. But fortunately people
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: in this country have the ability to pack up their
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: bags and move, which is happening across this country article
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: after article after article on a state level. On a
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: local level, if you make things terrible by way of
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: not dealing with crime, homelessness, drug abuse, or you defund
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: the police, crime runs a buck. You have wolp prosecutors
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: who aren't putting people in jail, things deteriorate. People tend
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: to leave. And also, if you put an open and
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: welcome to do business sign on the city of Cincinnati,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: what business and it's right mind is going to choose
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: within the city limits to operate a business when they
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: can just jump outside of the city limits or maybe
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: even outside of Hamilton County and choose one of the
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: more attractive counties or cities to set up shop in.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: We're in competition. Increase in income tax is not good
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: for residents moving into the area. I would guess.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: No, I think it's terrible, and I'll tell you what
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: we and I think you just put your finger on why.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: A lot of the business community of business leaders don't
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: really cares. A lot of their employees now can work
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: from home. Yes, you know our competition. Everyone's thinking like,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: oh my god, our competition is Indianapolis or Columbus or
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: whatever for this business. No, our competitions Madeira and Green
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: Township and you know, Marymont and these these you know,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: self sustaining municipalities where life's pretty good, Sycamore townsip, you
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: know where if you totally work from home using your
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: laptop and do not have a an actual office downtown,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: you no longer have to stay the city or in
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: text even though your employer is downtown. There are workarounds.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, you can thanks to Microsoft teams Zoom and
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: a really in a nice Internet connect and a lot
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: of white collar workers who are highly compensated and who
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: pay the bulk of this tax can work from home.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: So you know, that is a new reality, and I don't.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: We have not actually had an income tax increase during
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: this work from home era, and I think they may
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: be in for a very rude awakening. It might not
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: lead to the level of increased tractor sees that they
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: are anticipating. And it also goes to the prime issue
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: because people are looking to get out of downtown right now.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: I mean they are. I mean I hear an anecdotally,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: I've got real estate clients downtown. You know, just these
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: these viral images of these fights like an Opening Day
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: or you know on the Fourth Street brawl last year.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, no matter what people how they try to
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: recharacterize them, they hear the living daylights out of a
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: lot of people who don't have to be downtown every day,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: but who's used to be. So it's a problem too.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: That's a great thing about America. You have choices on
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: where you live, where you want to, you know, pay
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: tax dollars. Let's have a good return on invent which
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: apparently the city's not delivering on. Steve Gooden, I wish
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: you were still on council because you're a voice of
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: reason and common sense and we certainly miss one on
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: Cincinna City Council, pointing out again elections have significant consequences,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: and well you deal with you lay in the bed
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: you made by voting. Steve will I hope you get
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: to join the program again real soon. You always are
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: on for really important subject matters, and I appreciate your
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: willingness to spend time with my listeners and me.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: Sir, got it. It's an ampoaloon, honor Brian, You take
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: care of Thank for having me on.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: You do the same. Steve Gooden Porter Wright is the
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: firm seven twenty seven right now for seven thirty two
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: fifty five care City Talk station. Find them online. We
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: either people Convention dot Org. Who is he? He's Tom's
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: Awastowski if we the People Convention dot or He's got
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: a new podcast there every week which you can follow.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: Welcome back, Tom, It's always nice having you on the show.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: Well, it's great, you know, to be on with you.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: And I'm listening to this conversation you're having about the
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: city of Cincinnati and Bryan.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: It just doesn't make any sense. I mean, it makes
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: no sense.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: They've got a two billion dollar budget and they're acting like,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: you know, to cut twelve million dollars, we got to
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: cut six million from the police force. I mean, I mean,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: it's what's twelve million dollars out of two billion. It's
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: like less than one percent. How long will it take
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: you and your wife to figure out how to cut
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: one percent and your spending for the rest of this
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: year if you went home today now, I.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: Could figure that out in my thoughts in the back
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: of my head right now, already did.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: It right now, right. So here's the problem. This is
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: nuts look at their budgets for the last three years.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: Okay in twenty twenty four. I'm using my handy AI,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: so these may not be totally accurate. But in twenty
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: twenty four their budget was one point eight billion, and
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: it was a change of sixteen percent increase from the
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: year before, when inflation was three point four. In twenty
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: twenty five that went up to one point nine to
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: five billion, which is another eight point three percent increase.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: Inflation was three percent. This year they're at two point
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: sixty seven billion, which is a six percent increase. Inflation
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: is two point five. What are you talking about, how
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: there's no controls on their spending. It's real simple. I
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: raise the income taxes.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, get out of here, shut up.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: Cut suspending.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: You're just spending like drug and sailors.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: Well, you know you ran about the city budget. We'll
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: dovetailed quite nicely in the v V. Ramasant He's proposal
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: regarding property tax rollbacks, because I think in the final
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: analysis and we'll get into details on this in the
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: next segment, Final analysis it we're gonna cut it, We're
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: gonna roll them back, and then local governments will continue.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: This is from his website. Local governments will continue to operate,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: but with greater discipline. That's kind of what you're driving at,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: isn't it, Tom. The City of Cincinnati needs to exercise
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: a greater measure of discipline, like, for example, not chasing
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: carbon dioxide and quit spending so much damn money on
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: green energy proposals which do nothing to help the planet
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: or the residents of the City of Cincinnati's core needs.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the discussion that I've been having with
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: the Veik for the last six months. The property tax
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: is obviously the most important issue in the state. I mean,
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: you know, all the polls show that people are really
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: incensive about that and it has to be addressed. But
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: it's more than just giving people the money back that
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: were stolen from them when they raised property taxes so
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: crazily in the last few years. It's about reforming our
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: local governments because we have a problem. Every government entity
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: in Ohio operates like the City of Cincinnati.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: The answer is always.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: Backs mars for money. There's never never going to be cutbacks.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: And I said to the think you can't. They won't
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: cut back voluntarily. The only way to force them to
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: rethink what they're doing is to take some money from
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: them that makes them do that. And that's what this
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: property tax is about. As well as giving people, you know,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: some some fair property tax rates, it's about reforming state
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: government and local government.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: It's great, starve the cancer. That's the way to get
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: around it. Let's bought. We'll pause. We'll bring Tom z
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: Auwastowski from We the People Convention up the talk station
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: seven a fifty five k CD talk station. Bryan Thomas
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: talking with Tom z Awastowski. We the People Convention dot
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: org is the website. Check it out. Lot's good reporting
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: there and of course his weekly podcast right there at
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: the website. Tom Zawastowski pivoted over to VVA Grammaswami's plan
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: and some of the information that he puts ahead of
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: the proposal, which is really important to point out. Our
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: property taxes generally in Ohio have gone up forty five
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: percent since twenty twenty A. How taxpayers are now paying
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: roughly forty percent more pupil per pupil than before COVID pandemic.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: And yet, as we all know and are sadly and
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: painfully aware of, well public schools, math, reading and writing
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: standards have all deteriorated in spite of the fact that
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: we're paying forty percent more per pupil, so money does
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: not translate into superior academics. I think this is the
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: lead in saying, hey, time to tighten the belt. Viva
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: Ramaswami's plan is too, well, immediately roll back the property
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: tax levels. It's pretty substantially and that results in what
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: tomasz Awastowski, what are we all to do if, like,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: for example, he rolls back to property taxes, the money's
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: not going to roll in. So how are the schools
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: going to get funded? Tom?
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: Well, see this is the push pool that you're seeing
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: between the ax Ohio tax group, which is saying we
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: want to total repeal all property taxes, and when you say, well, okay,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: how are you going to fund the schools, their answer
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: is that's for their job to figure out. And a
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: lot of people are concerned and say that's not a plan.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: And you know, if you reveal all property taxes, you
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: kind of have chaos. So what I think the bank
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: and the legislature now he's talking to the legislature about
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: getting on board with this. What they're talking about is
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: rolling back. You notice he's talking about reform and rolling
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: back property taxes. He's talking about going back to either
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty or twenty twenty one levels, which is before
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: these egregious increases of thirty percent or forty percent happened
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: in a lot of communities based on the property valuation. Okay,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: that's where this thing went off the rails. So he's
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: not saying we're gonna eliminate property taxes, We're going to
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: roll them back. But what that's gonna do is it's
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: going to amount to a lot of savings for I mean,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: a lot of people are gonna save thousands of dollars
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: a year going forward if he does that on their
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: property guns. But the schools and the police and the
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: fire it's looking to me from the figures that they're
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: sharing with me, is this gonna be like a nine
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: or ten percent cut. Okay, Now, you know you could
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: cut a dollar from any government agency and l screen
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: bloody murders day I got to shut down, right, But
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: nine or ten percent is in this realm where they
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: now don't have enough way to keep doing business as usual.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: So maybe we got to combine these departments, or maybe
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: we've got to consolidate these school systems, or maybe we've
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: got to, like your one person was talking about updating
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: this database that the police has, the records system that
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: doesn't work well, And this is the kind of stuff
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: that we've got to get elected officials thinking about, because
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: they never do. They just think, well, we can't get anybody,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: we can't get any expenses, and we have these pet
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: projects we want to do, so let's just keep raising taxes.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: That's just not the answer.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: And so I think Rebak's trying to take a more
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: reasonable approach, and I'm pushing him to now, like, let's
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: put this really out there for the legislature to put
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: on the ballot. And I think he's just very respectful
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: of the ax Ohio tax people. He met with them,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: he knows Brian Massey and Leonard those guys are patriots.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: I love those guys. He's and so he's kind of
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: not ready to just come out and say, don't do
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: what they're asking me to do. He wants to give
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: them their chance, but if they don't make it on
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: the ballot, I think he's preparing something that it's going
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: to really help. It's going to help you individually as
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: a tax payer, and it's going to help reform our government,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: which is the other really important thing.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll acknowledge I wouldn't mind having the property
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: taxes roll back to pre COVID. I mean, we've got
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: six years worth of relief or increases that I deal with.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: That that is going to That suggests to me that
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: they're going to have to come up with a new
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: methodology for calculating property taxes generally because it was that
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: massive spike as a consequence of COVID, when people realize
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: they didn't have to work anymore or go to work
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: anymore downtown, they moved all over the place, increasing the
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: price of homes everywhere. And we all know how that worked.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: But it's still calculated based upon the market value of
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: the home.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: So we needs a change.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: That's that's going to go, And you saw the legislature
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: actually made a move in that direction. And that has
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: to do with, not to get too technical, the inside
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: millage and the outside millage, which most people don't even
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: know what the hell a mill is, but the whole
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: thing about using the property value you to decide the
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: inside millage, which is the taxes, the private taxes that
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: schools and communities can put on you without a vote.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: Well they've changed that now and then, and REVEC is
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: really for this where it's going to be tied to inflation,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: not to your property value, because that's a much more
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: sane standard for calculating, and that will so it's not
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: only let's roll this back, let's slow it down. Okay,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: there might even be a thing on here for the
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: outside millage that yeah, you could still put a new
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: property tax on the ballot, but maybe you got to
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: get sixty percent of the vote to pass it or
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: fifty five, so it's a little harder. So there's talk
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: about those kind of restraints as well on regrowing it
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: once you cut it back, because that's what they always do, right,
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: You cut something and the next year they say, oh,
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: we can't survive.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: We got to ticket all back and go further.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: Well in the other layer in this and I'm not
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: quite sure how it factors in where we can figure
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: out the reality of it, but I think it it's
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: very clear the embracing of school choice across this country.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: Many states are allowing the tax payer dollars to follow
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: the children. I like the concept, but statistically, I think
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: there are fewer people in the public schools given that
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: We've got all kinds of options, including you know, ed
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: getting educated at home. Home schooling is great for a
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: lot of people. There are other schools out there that
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: people want to go to, like the Sincinnti Classical for example.
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  Speaker 1: So more competition means maybe lesser needs from the public
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: school system. They can afford to tighten their belts a
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and this is really the insane part of that.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, look at those stats who just stated that
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: the VEG puts out there, we're paying forty percent more
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: for pupils and our scores are going down.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, wow.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, So here's the bottom line. You know, our public
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: school system, which is really just a jobs program for
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: leftist you know teachers, that is as dead men walking.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: AI is going to just drom natly change the whole education.
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  Speaker 3: System like it or not.
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  Speaker 2: And there's a video at our website at Weadpeopleconvention dot org.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: You can go to the video section and there's a
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: real interesting video about how AI will change education where
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: these people are actually doing it. They're not talking about it.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: They've started schools and you may not agree with what
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: they say before, you got to watch that video because
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: it's it's the most interesting thing I've seen about how
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: will AI really impact schools. The other line is Brian
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: the trades man. Yes, the trades I was just having
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: a conversation this weekend with one of my nephews because
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: he's got two boys, who are, you know, just graduating
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: from high school and one's just going to college, and
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, stop, you kind of look at their future.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: Their future is not getting a college education right now.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: You want to make bank, go to a trade school man.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: You'll be making you know, over one hundred thousand a
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: year and six months, and you'll have a future because
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: you'll have some money to invest in companies in the
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: stock market, which is where the growth will be. This
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: whole idea of like let's go to college and spends
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: four years learn is something that you can't get a
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: job in has got to stop. And that's why you're
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: seeing twenty five percent of colleges are in danger of
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: closing down. It's going to be seventy five percent of
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: colleges are going to close down. We need to reorient Brian,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: because we're not in Kansas anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Dorothy, No, that's great, it's a great observation and you know,
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: just yeah, you need to think it's not even that
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: much out of the box. AI. Okay, computers crunching numbers,
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: crunching data, you know, bringing about some great benefits in
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: some areas and frightening people in the other areas because
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: they might lose their job because of it. What can't
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: computers do? Answer trades? Plumbing, electric building things? Puts all right? Yeah,
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: I listened to my daughter's fiancees in the trades. He
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: went to college, but he was in the roofing game
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: when he was in college. He just stuck it out
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: and he is making a living and providing in part
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: for my daughter based upon in the roofing business. And
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: he loves it. And you know, that's it's the wave
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: of the future.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 5: And I'm glad you And again, Brian, it's not forever.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: See these people get so. You know, we were fortunate
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: to live in and our grandparents of in a world
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: where you went to work at whatever the GM plan
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: or something and you work there your entire life. We
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: didn't quite get that, but we got some stability. But
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: if you're going to work in the trades, this might
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: be a five or ten year deal because you can
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: make some bank and really get invested. And then as
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: the AI world starts to evolve, you're not going to
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: be doing the same thing you were doing. You're gonna
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: be doing something else. And so you got to look
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: at it from where's the opportunity right now? And you
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: got to take that opportunity right now.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: All going back to a reduction in the needs of
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: the traditional public education system. Toms awast ask you we
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: the people Convention dot orgs where you follow and bookmark
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: the page and check out what he has to say
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: and all the things he posts up each and every week.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: And I'm staring at the video page here. I'm going
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: to take a look at that. How will AI change education?
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna love it.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm definitely gonna watch that when I get off
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: the program this morning. Tom. Look forward to having you
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: back on real soon. Have a great week, my friend.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: Thanks for your time, save you guys. Thanks for having
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: me on. Brian, I love being with you. I appreciate
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: you being with us. Seven to fifty right now, ifty
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• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: Inside Scoop, get the inside scoop with the bright Bart Newsday.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: It was going to be the immigration editor. Someone said
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: at a search party, John Benner not picking up this morning,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: which is kind of unusual anyway, which means you're free
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: to call. What do you want to talk about? Five one, three, seven,
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  Speaker 1: four nine fifty, five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two
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• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: Before we get to that, just remember ken Kober was
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: on earlier this morning about the proposed six point six
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: million dollar cuts to the City of Cincinnati's budget for
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: the police department. Yes, they did by resolution approve eight
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: million dollars for the River Bend project a week go.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: Now they're gonna cut six million, more than six million
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: from the police at least that's currently being proposed. They
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: got time to The mayor has time to get his
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: budget together, which he'll present the Cincinnati City Council, which
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: must approve it sometime in June. So this is the
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: conversation time we're talking about right now and swirling around
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: that as we talked about with Tom Zauwastowski and Steve Gooden,
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: who preceded Tom Steve talking about the twenty nine and
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: a half million dollar budget deficit. And we find out
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: this morning with all the reporting on the budget deficit
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: generally and the specific cuts of the police, this problem
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: has been going on for a long long time. City
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati has a spending problem. There's no doubt about it.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: So you can hear Steve Gooden talk about the twenty
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: nine and a half million dollars shortfall, and according to
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: Jeff Crammerting, since the councilmember, this is going to continue
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: on into the future. And I can only imagine how
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: this has impacted our budget rating. Yeah, which means next
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: time the city wants to borrow money, they probably have
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: to pay more in interest on it. And I think
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: Steve pointed out we're paying a million dollars annual interest
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: in stuff we've already borrowed. Of course, the streetcar. And
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: thank you Christopher Smitheman for remind letting me know. I
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: guess today is the last day. If I read the
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: article correctly for the Washington d C Streetcar headline from
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: the Washington Post, d C Streetcar is making its final stop,
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: leaving a mixed legacy two point two mile line along
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: h Street will have its final day of service today.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: One resident quote, I will never miss you close. Quote
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: that's one.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: I would suggest it would be a very reasonable thing
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: to just end the operation of the streetcar. Christopher said,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: it's five million dollars a year. How much ROI do
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: we get on that? There are failed streetcar projects and
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: there are maybe some successful one. I guess Portland just expanded.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: It's fine if the City of Portland wants to do that. Fine,
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: if it's providing and generating revenue and income, fine. I
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: don't think anybody can put up some information up that's
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: going to suggest or show that the Cincinnati street car
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: is actually doing any of that. And of course, because
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: it's free, something that operates for free still requires maintenance
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: and upkeep, electricity employees to operate it, and on and
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: on and on so and I just find it puzzling
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: that the city, I think failing its residents, at least
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: in terms of law enforcement, is concerned. There are not
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: enough police officers out there. Takes forever for them to
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: show up on a run. And of course, with crime increasing,
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: youths running amock, locking down streets and shutting down areas
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: just because they've got social media and now to connect
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: them all, and they've got nothing better to do, and
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: apparently parents that don't care where they are at any
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: given hour of the day. It's becoming a growing problem,
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: that says ken Kober. Try to get somebody to become
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: a police officer, even if you're not defunding the police,
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: which some argue, that's really what's behind this proposed budget cut.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: It's because we have to do it, not because we
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: want to do it. Oh but behind the scene, so
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: many people in this administration actually want to cut the
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: police department and how and why. Their own survey revealed
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: that police are a pretty damn high priority for the
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: residents of the city of Cincinnati. Something else that was
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: pointed out in the reporting on this this morning. Yeah,
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: how about that that roads mm hmm, snow remil was
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: a high priority and the fire department all high priorities.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: No one in there, nothing in there about a solar
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: panel array. Obviously, I'm gonna tear about that one because
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: every time I think about the residents of the city
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: of Cincinnati and the taxpayers that some brilliant person, maybe
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: the mayor, had the idea that we are going to
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: start building our own carbon free environment. Oh it's going
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: to power the city or I don't care maintenance, upkeep,
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: construction costs. You're not doing a damn thing to solve
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: this alleged problem that we've got going on with carbon
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: dioxide aka plant food floating around the planet. What can
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: one city do? I know, I'm beating this dead horse
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: and probably sick of me going on on him. And
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: because it's just a m the whole topic drives me
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: out of my mind. Someone do a quick calculation, if
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: you got the information handling how much how much carbon
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: dioxide does the city not expel into the world because
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: of the solar panels?
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: Once you got that figure, how much carbon dioxide and
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: other pollutants were spewed into the atmosphere as a consequence
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: of Oh, the war between Russia and Ukraine just one.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: Maybe the recent conflict that we're engaged with now, some
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: call to war like me, between the United States Israel
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: on one side and Iran on the other. You think
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: maybe a little bit with the bombs blowing off literally
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: every couple of seconds, all the ones that are coming
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: in toward the Arab nations in Israel and our tar
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: in our military bases. Boom boom, boom boom. Carbon dioxide
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: carbonox had another pollutants as well. Hmm, love the smell
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: and napalm in the morning.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: We are doing nothing. Metaphorically slap in the face and
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: ask them to do the calculations then come up with
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: a justification for continuing to spend limited scarce on into
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: the future taxpayer dollars. That would not be a priority
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: for me Wreike City council member. But then again, it's
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: not a priority for you at all, because they don't
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: think it should be for anybody. Will, thanks for calling
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: this morning.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 3: Will.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: It's been a while. Good to hear from you here
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: in the morning show. Oh it's not that Will, so
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: it's still good to hear from you.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 3: Will.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: I was mistaken your will number two good here.
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  Speaker 6: Promy Brian.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 3: This one.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 6: I might have to agree, but disagree. And we had
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 6: the same problem here in Kentucky. If it's an overkill,
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 6: I mean, you gotta have these vehicles for the highway,
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 6: I understand, okay, but these cars they drive around it,
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 6: and they said sent a hundred officers short. Okay, Now
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 6: that's a hundred of these cars that they drive and
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 6: these are very exceptive cars, and they're suited.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: Up well well, well will, will Will. I have no
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: idea what you're talking about. You said you're gonna have
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: to agree to disagree. I don't even know what the
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: subject matter is as of right now. So let's start
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: with let's.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 6: About the budget or the police. I'm sorry I just
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 6: jumped in, but at the budget all the police, and
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 6: I can understand why they made need to come back
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 6: because it's an overtill on these cars they drive. I mean,
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 6: my god, we got the same thing here in Kentucky.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 6: They got these cars. I mean, these whatever SUVs or
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 6: whatever they are, I mean, nobody can afford them. They
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 6: drive around in Lundry and every one of them, you know,
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 6: one hundred thousand dollars each on these and they drive
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 6: around and I asked just one cop, sir, with all
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 6: their respect.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: Of love, I'll tell you what it's kind of in
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: the chase. Ninety percent of the police budget is for personnel,
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: not equipment. Ten percent is for equipment. They're not going
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: out and getting brand new cars every single day. As
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: a matter of fact, they drive those things until they're undrivable.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: And you got to have police with cars because they
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: have to drive all the way across town from the
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: remote districts where the city council decided they should be,
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: compared to where the police president should be in any
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: other given district. So they got a fifteen minute drive
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: to go from one place to another. You need a
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: car to do that, So I don't know how you
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: deal without cars. And you go ask a police officer
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: if he thinks he's driving around in a lap of luxury,
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: driving one of these Crown Vics or even an SUV.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: You gotta have some place to put the equipment you
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: got to get from point A to point B. I
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: don't know how many charging stations are in the city limits,
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: so I don't think he can use an EV to
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: do it. But the problem you're suggesting wouldn't be solved
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: by that. It's an expense that every police departartman has.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: They can't ride the street car to get to the
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: crime scene. How do you have law enforcement without a
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: mode of transportation that gets them where they need to be.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's really the problem here. Let's sue
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: a Bob's got Bob. Welcome to the show. Happy Tuesday
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: to you.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 5: Well, Happy Tuesday. To you too.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 3: Ryan.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, I got the one little bone pick with that
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 5: you said a minute ago you talked about carbon dioxide
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 5: and other pollutants. Well, carbon dioxide is not a politic.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: No, it isn't, And I wasn't hold on, I was
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: not suggesting that was. And I figure everybody who's regularly
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: listening to me knows damn well that I do not
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: believe carbon dioxide is a pllutant. I was referring to
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: the actual pollution that really would come from a bomb exploding.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: So you got your carbon component and then you got
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: the chemicals. That's why I said, I love to smell
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: on napalm in the morning. I don't think napop is
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: derived from naturally occurring atmosphere, you know.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true. Now as far as the police go,
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 5: real quick, I was a volunteer fireman for fifteen years,
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 5: and I always told the policemen that I knew they
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 5: were the crazy ones. They thought we were crazy to
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 5: running to get into buildings. I told them fires well,
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 5: I knew would kill me, but they didn't. It wasn't
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 5: trying to kill me. The police will go to say
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 5: a domestic dispute, even though they've been called there and
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 5: suddenly they've got both sides. They're just trying to get them.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 5: So I always told them they were the crazy ones,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 5: not me. You see a lot of reasons not to
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 5: want to be a policeman. But this part now going
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 5: one other thing here real quick. The TSA agents. I
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 5: wonder if we could get anybody in Congress to have
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 5: a bill where if you've got a mandatory job where
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 5: you're required to show up, like air traffic controllers and
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 5: TSA agents and like that, that we automatically pay them
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 5: no matter what the budgets, you know, if they're trying
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 5: to cancel, but magat where they automatically get paid no
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 5: matter what.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how. Excuse me, I don't know
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: how that would work. From a budgetary standpoint. You'd have
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: to have I guess, the provision in any given budget year,
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: because you're supposed to do these annual appropriation spills, you know,
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: the things that never get done, so they're always extended
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: with a continuing resolution or some omnibus bill. But it
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: would have to be in there that specific areas are
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: identified and will continue to get paid at whatever allocated amount.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: I just don't know that you can put that figure
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: on paper and properly account for it. I'm sure, excuse me,
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: real bad tickle the back of my throat. I'm sure
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: they could figure it out, though. I think in the
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: final analysis, the first place we start is that elected
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: officials and their staff do not get paid during a shutdown. Representatives, senators,
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: their staff, nothing, not a dime. I don't think anything
• 1:42:42
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  Speaker 1: up with Daniel Davis Deep dive. Of course, we're going
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: to be looking at the developments between the well developments
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: in Iran and obviously, again mixed messages, depending upon which
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: headline or which article you're reading, Trump administration looking for
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: an off ramp. Israel suggested that they have already completed
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: phase one of the war. What is phase one and
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: what is ultimately going to be what Phase three is
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: the end, right, Joe? Phase three is profit? So what's
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: phase two? And it worries me to know end that
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  Speaker 1: the Carg Island maybe in the crosshairs of some bombing.
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  Speaker 1: That is the primary source of the Iranian oil revenue.
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  Speaker 1: It's right there. It seems like it's a pretty easy target.
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  Speaker 1: I realized they probably got troops in there. They mentioned
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  Speaker 1: it's probably has IEDs all over it in anticipation of
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  Speaker 1: a central ground invasion. I don't want a potential ground invasion.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want a ground invasion, quite honest with you.
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  Speaker 1: But that is a source of pain that could be
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  Speaker 1: afflicted on the Iranians. But considering how much oil they
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  Speaker 1: do export to the rest of the world, that would
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: cause long term harm globally, I expect. And that's what
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  Speaker 1: I've been reading about that Carg Island. However, a military objective, yes,
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  Speaker 1: What isn't a military objective though, are some of the
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: other things that Donald Trump suggested bombing, like the Iranian
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  Speaker 1: electric power grid and the desalination plants because of the
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: significant civil demand on that. If you attack those, there
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  Speaker 1: is going to be a massive amount of pain inflicted
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: on the Iranian people, people that I think Donald Trump
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: initially had suggested might rise to help with overthrowing the
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: current evil regime. You want regime change, you're gonna need
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  Speaker 1: the Iranian people. Do you get the hearts and minds
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  Speaker 1: of the Iranian people? If you deprive them of water
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  Speaker 1: and electricity, that will most assuredly, I don't think it's
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  Speaker 1: much of a read into the future. Lead to mass
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  Speaker 1: starvation and a lot of death, unnecessary death among civilian population,
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  Speaker 1: not a good look, and maybe a violation of international law.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: Some are out loud saying yes, that in fact would
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: be a violation of international law. And I know there
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: are listeners of audiences going screw international law. We don't
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: need to pay any attention to it. But step back
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: and view that from a larger, longer term projection. A
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: lot of folks not happy with what we're doing here.
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  Speaker 1: It's obviously impacted the economies of many nations around the world.
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  Speaker 1: This deprivation of the massive quantity of energy and fertilizer
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: that goes to the strait of horror moves the world
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: looks on and says, who did this?
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  Speaker 3: Now?
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  Speaker 1: Many might suggest the Iranian people are the Iranian regime
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  Speaker 1: is responsible for the closure of the Strait of Horrmuves,
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  Speaker 1: And I think you can justify saying that on some level.
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  Speaker 1: But they are being attacked. They perceive themselves to being
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  Speaker 1: a war or what do you do? You go after
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: your enemy, You hit them where it hurts. Going back
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  Speaker 1: to carg Island, how do you hit your enemy where
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: it hurts? How do you get the rest of the
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  Speaker 1: world on your side as sucky as your side happens
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  Speaker 1: to be. I'm talking about the Iranians, of course, not
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  Speaker 1: exactly loved by the world. They do kill a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people. They are indiscriminate in their violence. They well
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: treat women like chattel. Well, yeah, make the rest of
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: the world hurt. And then you blame the Americans for
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: the hurt that's been unleashed on the world. And then
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: you get countries like Spain saying, you know what, We're
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: not gonna let you use our airspace anymore. That's a
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: domino following. Can you imagine the longer term reality if
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  Speaker 1: that kind of attitude towards the United States were to continue.
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  Speaker 1: And I realize they're all hooked up in the Biblical
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  Speaker 1: court of the United States economy. But if you end
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  Speaker 1: up alienating a large chunk of the world, I think
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: you run a longer term risk economically. They might impose
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: sanctions on us, they might choose not to trade with us,
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: they might choose a different current. See, you know, just
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: broader problems that swirl through the worries that go through
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  Speaker 1: my mind. Eight twenty six at fifty five KRCD Talk Station,
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  Speaker 1: we'll see what Daniel Davis has to say about it.
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  Speaker 1: The retired lieutenant colonel analyzing what's going on in Iran.
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  Speaker 1: Coming up next to Hope you can stick around talk station,
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  Speaker 1: when we get to talk with Daniel Davis, retired Lieutenant
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  Speaker 1: fifty five krc Morning Show, Daniel Davis Deep Dive, Welcome back.
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  Speaker 1: It's a great to have you on the program as always,
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  Speaker 1: Daniel Davis, and good to see you. At least I'm
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: capable of seeing you through our little conference window here. Well,
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: it's a lot of to be seen, so thank you
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  Speaker 1: very much. Well, and you're even talking about this since
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: the outcome, since the outset of this war with Iran,
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: they've got a hell of a lot more rockets and
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: missiles then I maybe we didn't that we didn't didn't anticipate.
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  Speaker 1: Every single day, you think, all right, there's no way
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  Speaker 1: they've got any more, and yet they continue to launch
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  Speaker 1: these missiles and now apparently they've revealed they've got some
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  Speaker 1: that go a lot further than there we originally thought.
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  Speaker 1: So Europe's a little concerned that they could be targeted
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  Speaker 1: by the Iranians. I don't know whether you feel that's
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  Speaker 1: going to happen or anything, but and there's this idea
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: that was going to be a short term operation, days,
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  Speaker 1: not weeks. We're now into a month. Did Trump administration
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  Speaker 1: think that it was going to be like Venezuela, go in,
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  Speaker 1: get the figurehead out, and get a compliant regime to
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  Speaker 1: play ball with you. That obviously didn't work out that way,
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  Speaker 1: But do you think that was anticipated?
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  Speaker 7: Unfortunately, I've recently talked to a certain individual that had
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 7: very high level access to the administration, and he says
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 7: that there was a significant number of people inside the
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  Speaker 7: administration that did think that what happened to Venezuela could
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  Speaker 7: be transferred over to Iran. There were plenty of people
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  Speaker 7: that counseled again to that on the inside and said, no,
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  Speaker 7: that's not going to happen. Those things are, you know,
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  Speaker 7: as far apart and different as you can even imagine.
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  Speaker 7: But it appears that those that thought it could be
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 7: were able to sway the president and said, look, there'
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  Speaker 7: as week as they have been, remember all and the
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 7: read up to this, there's week as they've been in
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 7: all forty seven years of their existence. All we got
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  Speaker 7: to do is hit a really hard lock with Venezuela,
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  Speaker 7: take out the leader, and then.
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  Speaker 1: We can make a deal with those that are left.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's what they thought they could do.
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  Speaker 7: And I think as we were talking before this thing
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  Speaker 7: kicked off, I said, there's very little chance, almost like
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  Speaker 7: a wing and a prayer at best, and the likelihood
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  Speaker 7: is what is playing out now, just because that's not
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  Speaker 7: the system of the Iranian government, and they have all
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 7: kinds of capacity, because they have foreseen this outcome for decades,
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  Speaker 7: and they have prepared themselves to be able to withstand
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  Speaker 7: all of this incredible bombardment that were dropping on top
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 7: of them, and the diplomatic oscillation and all that they
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 7: were prepared for it logistically, psychologically, in every other way,
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  Speaker 7: and now it's playing out exactly as they had planned.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm looking at this sort of the from my
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  Speaker 1: perception at least, and I'm certainly willing to admit that
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  Speaker 1: I'd be wrong on this, but my perception of it.
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  Speaker 1: You look at Venezuela, you know, Maduro and pretty unpopular guy. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: I think he was elected under spurious, suspicious circumstances. But
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  Speaker 1: it's politics. It's not religion when it comes to Maduro.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that many people really factor in how
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: powerful a religious affiliation is. When you're fighting off a foe.
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  Speaker 1: You're not going to walk away from your fundamentalist religion.
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  Speaker 1: It's ingrained in you. I mean, I always ask my
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  Speaker 1: Christian friends, are you going to walk away from your
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  Speaker 1: faith at the point of a gun? Do you think
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  Speaker 1: some politician can convince you or talk you out of
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  Speaker 1: your faith? So faith coupled with you know, territorial you know,
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  Speaker 1: affiliation with region, that those are two very powerful things.
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  Speaker 1: And you've got one element there that certainly it transcends
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  Speaker 1: politics and oil or commodities, doesn't it, Daniel.
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  Speaker 7: Man, That couldn't have been a better analogy, because that's
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  Speaker 7: exactly what's playing out here. And you can see it
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  Speaker 7: throughout the world region, not even just in within Iran,
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  Speaker 7: because you have a combination of nationalism rally around the
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 7: flag and the religious aspect of Shia Islam uh.
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  Speaker 1: And then you see that.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 7: There's rising support this year is on that were just
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 7: incensed when this the Iatolia was assassinated.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 7: And so now you see Katiba Hezbola in Iraq rising up,
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 7: you see Hisbola in Lebanon rising up, the houthis in
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 7: the Red Sea now from from Yemen. They're rising up
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 7: in support of the the regime, the regime that's left
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 7: in Iran. And of course that there was a system
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  Speaker 7: in place. It was a hierarchical system, uh. You know,
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 7: it was a normal functioning government. It wasn't just a
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 7: one man it wasn't a u cult of personality, et cetera.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 7: And so now then we see it playing out as
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 7: it was easily predictable, and so those who thought something
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 7: different were just hopeful that's it, well, maybe it'll work out.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 7: This It wasn't based on evidence or research or understanding
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  Speaker 7: of the culture.
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  Speaker 2: And the people it was based on.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I hope it'll work out like this one, And
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  Speaker 7: unfortunately they appear to have carried the day with President Trump.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and you know, the protesters in the street, you know,
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: is quite revealing. You think, oh my god, all these
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: Iranians are willing to take to the street to protest
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: the Supreme leader. They're putting their lives in jeopardy to
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: do that. But yeah, a question is percentage of population
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: willing to do that. Obviously much more dangerous to do
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: it there than say, protests against Donald Trump here in
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: the No King's rally. But if there was media from
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: elsewhere looking at the protests going on in the streets,
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: they might draw a conclusion that, oh my god, the
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: United States is getting ready to be overthrown. Look at
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: how many hundreds of thousands of people are in the
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: streets in the United States. It's only a small percentage
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: of the population. You can get fifteen people to show
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: up literally anywhere, Daniel Davis. So there's that. But then
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: pivoting over to what I think is a terrible idea,
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: and I'm not the only one blowing up the desalination
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: plants and the electric grid. Not only might that be
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: a war crime, and I'll let others in familiar with
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: international law know about that, but the civilian population they
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: need that, and they're going to start to death, and
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: they're not going to be really happy with the United
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: States if we blow up a lifeline to them, which
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: is their ability to have the lights on and get
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: fresh water. Yeah, listen, I.
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  Speaker 7: Think that that analogy with the No Kings rally is
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 7: hugely important because you had whatever was seven eight million
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 7: across the country. A few of them were really big,
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 7: and people could get the impression that, look that they're
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 7: all against President Trump. All we need to go in
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 7: there is just help them out and they'll be able
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 7: to overthrow them. The minute that anyone from outside our
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 7: country comes in and drops a bomb or or does
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 7: anything in our country allegedly in support of the people
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 7: who were in the No Real they would be in
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 7: sense and they would immediately turn against that force, because
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 7: that's not how our country works, it's not how human
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 7: beings work. We can have our complaints inside, and that's
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 7: exactly what happened. And I've talked to some of them,
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 7: so I know for a fact, people who were in
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 7: those protests that were against their government, but they said,
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 7: that's for us to figure out. The last thing we're
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 7: going to do is rise up against it while you
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 7: kill them and blow up all of our country. That's
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 7: just not how it works. We rally around the flag,
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 7: and we will and once this is over, we'll get
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 7: back again to how we're going to handle our own governance.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 7: But to think that you're going to cause them to
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 7: rise up because of bombs was always going to be
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 7: a bad idea.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and perhaps it's worth at least saying it out loud,
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: because I want to get your reaction. The Iranian people,
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: let's say, not not happy with the with the regime,
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: and they might enjoy regime change, of course that they
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: bring in about themselves better than the merit relying on
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: the Americans. But the other problem I would argue in
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: this equation is perhaps the Iranian people are not happy
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: with the supreme leader in the way their country is run.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: I don't think most of them are really happy with
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: the idea of even Israel, and since Israel's on the
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: other side of the shooting war, they perceive Israel to
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: be part of the problem. But that's the way they've
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: had their viewpoint for a long time anyway. I mean,
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: their their hatred toward Israel basically precedes this conflict.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 3: Well it does.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, there's no question about that. And unfortunately, you know,
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 7: there's understandable reasons why that would be. Because Israel has
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 7: been you know, assassinating leaders in Iran, They've been blowing
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 7: up their embassies, they've physically been attacking them for for decades.
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 7: So I mean, this, this is mutual enmity. And you know,
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 7: then then the the Iranians will use proxies to try
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 7: to strike back against Israel, et cetera. So this is
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 7: just an ongoing, simmering thing. But yeah, that's even more
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 7: reasonable why so many in Iran would stand up and say,
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 7: we're not going to just capitulate to this no matter what,
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 7: because this is now an existential threat. And you talked
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 7: about President Trump's true social yesterday about taking out water,
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 7: desalination and electricity everything that is, of course, is just
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 7: going to harden their result. It's not gonna make them
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 7: want to give up. And it would is it is
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 7: black and white. It's a war crime if he does it.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 7: I suspect he's probably just used it rhetorically. I doubt
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 7: he would actually do that, because then Iran would definitely
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 7: strike back against our allies in the region hit the
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 7: same kind of targets, and President Trump doesn't want that either,
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 7: So I suspect.
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  Speaker 1: That's just rhetorical.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 7: But uh, all of this together is just hardening the
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 7: resolve of the rate in side. And now then we
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 7: have an issue where the process of oil is so
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 7: high you can't get feedstocks out for all kinds of
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 7: things like helium, agricultural stuff. I mean, he's causing problems
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 7: all over the world, and we have got to get
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 7: this thing solved pretty.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: Quick well, and to that and solved, to reopen the
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: Straight of Horror Moves seems to be the one thing
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: that would, you know, end this back up of supplies.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: They're all sitting there floating around the boats. The rest
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: of the world is waiting for that stuff. So opening
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: the Straight of Horror moves, if that was the military objective,
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: we could just pull the plug on the whole thing.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: If the Straight of Horror Moos got reopened, that may
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: be okay, But right now that doesn't look like it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna happen. It will remain in the control of the Iranians,
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  Speaker 1: and the current scenarios, can we pull out before quote
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  Speaker 1: unquote securing the strait of horror moves and even call
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  Speaker 1: this something of a victory.
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  Speaker 7: Well, listen, according to the Wall Street Journal last night,
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  Speaker 7: the administration is now considering, you know what, we'll We're
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  Speaker 7: just gonna walk away and say we've damaged the navy,
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  Speaker 7: We've damaged their missiles, and we'll come back and do
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  Speaker 7: it again if we need to, and try to diplomatically
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  Speaker 7: get it Ron to open up. And if that fails,
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  Speaker 7: according to the article interviewing people in the administration, then
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  Speaker 7: we'll say, all right, Europe, you guys got to figure
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  Speaker 7: this out. You know, the Asia of you guys who
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  Speaker 7: need the stuff, y'all figure it out diplomatically. But we're
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  Speaker 7: not going to. And I don't know that that's a
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  Speaker 7: good plan. And then this morning, just before about an
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  Speaker 7: hour ago, I guess President Trump seemed to indicate that
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  Speaker 7: by saying, hey, France, Hey, you know, UK, you guys
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  Speaker 7: didn't help when we had to, so we may just
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  Speaker 7: walk away and you can take care of it. So
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  Speaker 7: that seems to maybe actually be the plan here. But listen,
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  Speaker 7: to the bottom line is Iran is not. We don't
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  Speaker 7: have the military capacity to force them to open it
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  Speaker 7: up because there's too many ways they can have it
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  Speaker 7: shut down. So whatever is negotiated, it's gonna leave Iran
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  Speaker 7: in charge of it, and they have incentive to open
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  Speaker 7: it up, and I think under the right conditions they
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  Speaker 7: will and that will help the rest of the world.
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  Speaker 7: But man, it's gonna be a strategic loss for us,
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  Speaker 7: and you can't doctor that one up.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I acknowledge that hitting the carg Island
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  Speaker 1: facility might do the most economic damage to Iran, but
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  Speaker 1: is that even a viable option considering how many world
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  Speaker 1: countries and everybody else relies on that facility to get
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  Speaker 1: fossil fuels.
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  Speaker 7: Well, and yeah, I mean it's a double wayman. There's
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  Speaker 7: a reason why we took sanctions off Iran, and not
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  Speaker 7: only Iran but also on Russia because we need the
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  Speaker 7: flow of what We need the flow of oil up
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  Speaker 7: to keep the price down below and you see it's
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  Speaker 7: already turning over one hundred dollars I think one twelve
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  Speaker 7: point fifteen on brand this morning, and we've got to
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  Speaker 7: get that down. You strack Carg island now that you
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  Speaker 7: diminished the amount of well that can get out of
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  Speaker 7: so it would undercut the sanctions. And then there's no
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  Speaker 7: question that Iran would then strike the GCC country's capabilities
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  Speaker 7: and draw it even further down.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't think that.
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  Speaker 7: I think that's a non starter because it would harm.
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  Speaker 1: Us in the process. Yeah, that's kind of the direction
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  Speaker 1: I thought you would go, because that's where I was leaning.
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  Speaker 1: And then finally, Daniel David Story park Cup, I know
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  Speaker 1: we're a little long today, but I got to ask you, literally,
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  Speaker 1: thousands of tankers and container ships floating around waiting to
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  Speaker 1: get through the straight of horror moves, right, I mean
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  Speaker 1: they have global tracking on that they're just sitting there
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  Speaker 1: waiting correct rut that is correct? Are those not easy
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  Speaker 1: targets themselves?
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  Speaker 7: Of course, definitely, And that's why early in this process
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  Speaker 7: Iran demonstrated how easy they were by just hitting I
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  Speaker 7: think it was like seven or eight of them something
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  Speaker 7: like that, to just show that at any point, I
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  Speaker 7: can just torch any of these things and they're done.
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  Speaker 1: So if you want to work with us, come through.
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  Speaker 1: And there's been some.
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  Speaker 7: Numbers, not a big number, but it's a number it's
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  Speaker 7: able to get through, so they're saying, hey, you could
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  Speaker 7: work with me, you can work against me, but it
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  Speaker 7: won't work out well for you.
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  Speaker 1: Suspiciously absent from the reporting, I acknowledge that idea that
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  Speaker 1: they are easily blown up out of the water, which
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  Speaker 1: could be a real problem. Daniel Davis always enjoyed the conversations,
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  Speaker 1: even though we don't always end up with great news.
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  Speaker 1: It's reality and I appreciate the cold water dose of
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  Speaker 1: it that you provide every week here in the morning shows.
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  Speaker 1: Until next week, have a great one.