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109. Gamma = The Devil (Immortal Hulk part 2) · The Book-Watchers

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  Speaker 1: one of the Immortal Hulk that we're talking about today. Well,
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  Speaker 1: this is part two that we're talking about on this episode.
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  Speaker 3: As the Devil Hulk remains trapped from this the Hulk
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  Speaker 3: Sorr it's to take his image in his own hands
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  Speaker 3: in the wake of Rosin's bankruptcy, until Rick frames him
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  Speaker 3: for releasing a large fatal burst of Gamma energy at
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  Speaker 3: a public event, and you're just like, oh, that's not
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  Speaker 3: good gammer rainiation on the public and he's blame it
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  Speaker 3: on Bruce Banner. Okay, that's not cute. It's not cute.
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  Speaker 3: So Gamma Flight, which is a team of superheroes that
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  Speaker 3: are all Gamma related titanium all that they arrived to
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  Speaker 3: detain the Hulk, and a young man who's infected by
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  Speaker 3: his father with Gamma who was being experimented on by
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  Speaker 3: the Shuttle Base is taken by Stearns, killing his Hulks
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  Speaker 3: therapists again because you know, he dies like three times
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  Speaker 3: and a shit, so he dies. Stern, the leader or
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  Speaker 3: the Big Brain, reveals that he has control of the
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  Speaker 3: below place, closing the green door, preventing his therapist to
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  Speaker 3: come back to life.
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  Speaker 4: So he's like, oh, he's dead.
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  Speaker 3: Let me just let me just close this door and
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  Speaker 3: lock it. You got no therapist now, and you're just like,
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  Speaker 3: oh shit, great like rude as the scientist that Bruce
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  Speaker 3: has been working with transports Rick out of the battle
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  Speaker 3: him a flight kills the Hulk again. He dies again,
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  Speaker 3: and allowing Stern's the Big Brain, having disguised himself as
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  Speaker 3: Green's Scar, to imprison him with Bruce's mind. And you're
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  Speaker 3: just I'm like, what's happening? What's happening right?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: So Stern or Big Brain, we'll call him Big Brain
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  Speaker 3: phusiest way to know. He tends to take Bruce to
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  Speaker 3: the Blowplace, causing the Double Hulk to break free. Having
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  Speaker 3: absorbed his father's Bruce's father's spirit, Brian's spirit. After the
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  Speaker 3: incident at the bomb site, Stern and it uses his
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  Speaker 3: I'm mean, what do they call that? His mutation? His
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  Speaker 3: mute is basically let me letaahalk and just stowing the oh.
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  Speaker 3: He ends up using the Savage Hulk to stall the
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  Speaker 3: Double Hulk long enough for Stearns.
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  Speaker 4: To kill him.
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  Speaker 3: So Big Brain to kill Bruce, so he takes Bruce
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  Speaker 3: to the Below Place to make him a vessel for
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  Speaker 3: the one below. All who also possesses Big Brain. So
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  Speaker 3: now Big Brain is possessed by the Devil, the Ultimate Double.
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  Speaker 3: And now the Ultimate Devil is like, I want you,
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  Speaker 3: mister Bruce Banner. You're gonna be my best I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to be all up in that body, ADIADDI pausing chaos
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  Speaker 3: and destruction by these hands. The universe is gonna get
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  Speaker 3: these green hands based and the from there Stern not
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  Speaker 3: Stern Samson therapist escapes by inhabiting Walter's body. So remember
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  Speaker 3: Walter the uh subsquatch, he's dead, like bullying his head human. Thus,
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  Speaker 3: the the therapist then possesses Walter's dead body, returning to
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  Speaker 3: Site B to retrieve his body. And you're like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: these are some body shann swatched Shenigans. And then he
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  Speaker 3: finds Rick's head fused with another character after the two
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  Speaker 3: were released from the Big Brains control. You're like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: that's that's the problem. The problem not good, not good,
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  Speaker 3: got all okay, coldcurd that that's that's not good.
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  Speaker 4: That's not de mirror as not demuir. That is not my.
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  Speaker 3: So while Walter aka Sampson receives his body with the
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  Speaker 3: Hulk imprisoned on the Gamma Flight space base, which currently
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  Speaker 3: the Hulk is just chilling on his space base. Joe,
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  Speaker 3: which is Great Hulk, takes over to escape the fall
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  Speaker 3: to Earth as the as the Hulk he falls and
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  Speaker 3: you're like, okay, yeah, totally great. He lands in New
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  Speaker 3: York City and of course he fights ben Grim. From there,
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  Speaker 3: he fights a thing from the Fantastic four, uh Grim.
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  Speaker 3: When he realizes that the Savage Hulk essentially a child,
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  Speaker 3: he kind of just stopped. He's like, ohoh, let me
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  Speaker 3: just let me just not let me just not do this,
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  Speaker 3: and he and Joe discussed. Of course, Joe the Great
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  Speaker 3: Hulk decides to let's let's discuss what the Fantastic for
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  Speaker 3: meeting discuss the fantastic for meeting God.
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  Speaker 4: And you're like, what.
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  Speaker 3: And how the story of Joe relates to Bruce's hardships? Job, Sorry,
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  Speaker 3: the story of Job the Bible relates to Bruce's hardships,
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  Speaker 3: and it's like, oh, it's getting rid of the religious
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  Speaker 3: And then Henry Peter, where the fuck is this character?
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  Speaker 3: A name refresher, who's his character? Oh, he's a super
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  Speaker 3: He's a Sayson of the United States government who is
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  Speaker 3: opposed to superhuman community. Some government official that they don't
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  Speaker 3: need to worry about. Uh sends the u UFOs. God, okay,
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  Speaker 3: who are they? The u the Uphos? Sorry Uphos and
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  Speaker 3: there a group of convicts, a group of villains known
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  Speaker 3: as their Like again, you don't don't worry about he
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  Speaker 3: sends some government officials send some villains to try intact
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  Speaker 3: the Hulk, who kill him with cosmic radiation, trapping him
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  Speaker 3: and Joe in the blowplace. Again, here's like, can Hulk
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  Speaker 3: and bruces give a break? I can I catch a break?
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  Speaker 4: So?
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  Speaker 3: Being back in the blowplace if I the one below
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  Speaker 3: all possess possessing sterns the big Brain, and it made
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  Speaker 3: infinitely powerful by the one below All and the cosmic
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  Speaker 3: rays allowed Joe to obtain a powerful hulk form that
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  Speaker 3: is fueled by cosmic energy. He resurrects and easily defeats
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  Speaker 3: the Uphos. Again, you don't need where about them? They're
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  Speaker 3: doumb forcing the government official to call the Avengers. Oh.
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  Speaker 3: The Red Harpy Gamma Gamma flight arrived to fight with
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  Speaker 3: the Green Hulk or Joe while hiding out. Joe and
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  Speaker 3: the Red Harpy have it makes sweet, sweet monster love.
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  Speaker 3: He must be he must be into teeth or something.
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  Speaker 3: Jesus Christ. Yeah, So Joe and the Red Harpy have
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  Speaker 3: sex before she turns back into Betty, having refused to
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  Speaker 3: do so for Banner. The Banner wouldn't have sex, he would.
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  Speaker 3: She wouldn't have sex with Banner, but she would have
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  Speaker 3: sex with Joe. I don't. There's a lot of hatred
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  Speaker 3: between Betty and Bruce throughing this whole thing, and she's
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  Speaker 3: just like, I don't like you. I don't. She's like,
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of tension that hatred go ew going
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  Speaker 3: on between those two. So she admits she was hurt
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  Speaker 3: by Bruce is to, oh, so this goes back to
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  Speaker 3: when she first turned to Red Harpy. Bruce is like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: he looked at her and go em, So this goes
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  Speaker 3: back to how she was hurt because Bruce was disgusted
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  Speaker 3: when he first saw Red Harpie.
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  Speaker 4: You don't love me.
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  Speaker 5: If you don't love me at my red herpee, then
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  Speaker 5: you don't deserve me, as find Betty Ross.
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  Speaker 4: Betty Ross exactly.
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  Speaker 3: So, Yeah, but so fucked up because, like Bruce, she
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  Speaker 3: died because if she got shot in the face and
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  Speaker 3: turned the Red Harvey because of you, because if you
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  Speaker 3: weren't there, she wouldn't have gotten shot in the face
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  Speaker 3: and became Red Harpy. But you were there, so she
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  Speaker 3: got shot in the face like this, and then only
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  Speaker 3: she becomes furious when she learns Joe left him in
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  Speaker 3: the Blowplace so that we're going round circle. Here, we're
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  Speaker 3: going round circle, so Joe or Gray Hulk and Red
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  Speaker 3: Harpy have sex. Betty reveals that she was upset when
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  Speaker 3: Bruce told her she was this repulsive look he made
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  Speaker 3: her was a repulsive when she became Red Harpy after
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  Speaker 3: she was killed cousin Bruce. And then now she's pissed
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  Speaker 3: because Gray Hulk left Bruce Banner and the Blowplace. He's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: now he's stop back, and she's like, the fuck? You
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  Speaker 3: mean the fuck? How are it being strung around by
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  Speaker 3: Bruce and his personalities? His girl saying girl saying I
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  Speaker 3: would be too, I would be too.
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  Speaker 4: Man.
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  Speaker 3: She's dating a lot of men, and all these men
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  Speaker 3: are trash for one reason or another. She says, I'm
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  Speaker 3: done being played by yell Heifer's.
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  Speaker 5: I just want my my real man back, so that's.
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  Speaker 3: All I want. So then she accuses Joe of being
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  Speaker 3: Bruce's most selfish desire. Selfish desires manifest and leaves. So
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  Speaker 3: she's like, you're nothing more, is goddamn selfish half your
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  Speaker 3: piece of shit, You're selfish. I'm leaving you bite and
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  Speaker 3: she leaves and yeah, and he's just like, oh fuck. Oh.
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  Speaker 3: Joe takes the reporter that's been with, that's been there
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  Speaker 3: for this whole time. It's been off and on, hunting down.
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  Speaker 3: She's made her mission to report everything on the Hulk.
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  Speaker 3: She's there for all she's she's traumatized, like this woman,
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  Speaker 3: this poor woman is human. It's just traumatized. And Joe
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  Speaker 3: takes her. Given the power to see hidden Gamma beings
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  Speaker 3: after the Savage holds Gamma bers, she's a game power
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  Speaker 3: too from the Gambers. Now she could see Gamma beings whatever,
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  Speaker 3: she could tell who's who and shit. So she takes
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  Speaker 3: Joe takes the Great Holt takes her to the Fantastic
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  Speaker 3: Four to be sent to the Blowblade. Read Richards, of
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  Speaker 3: course we know, read Richard. Come on now, the Elastic
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  Speaker 3: Man uses his forever Gate to send Joe back. Don't
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  Speaker 3: worry about it about the forever Gate. But then Jackie
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  Speaker 3: jumps in after him to go to the Blowplace too,
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  Speaker 3: and you're just like.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, oh, this is gonna be a problem.
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  Speaker 3: This is a problem. So it is revealed that Bruce
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  Speaker 3: and Big Brain, Big Brain's ancestors are brothers. We're brothers.
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  Speaker 3: So Bruce's great grandfather having killed his brother for sleeping
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  Speaker 3: his wife. It's a fill out family drama in this, Okay.
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  Speaker 4: So this is all.
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  Speaker 3: Happening in the Blowplace where Bruce finds out to him
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  Speaker 3: and Big brains ancestors are brothers, were brothers, and his
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  Speaker 3: great grandfather killed his brother because he still with his wife,
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  Speaker 3: and you're like what in the Blowplace, and Big Brain
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  Speaker 3: takes control of the Savage Hulk to kill Great Hulk,
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  Speaker 3: only for Jackie to wound Big Brain with a beam
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  Speaker 3: of gamma from her eyes, so now she could shoot
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  Speaker 3: gammo beans. And I'm just like, okay, work, girl, work,
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  Speaker 3: you're traumatize. Unleash unleash it. Please girl, kill big.
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  Speaker 6: Brain, give it him a bit of that unlimited power.
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  Speaker 3: The whole pulls the human pulls the Big Brain the
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  Speaker 3: human form out of his deformed body, and demand the
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  Speaker 3: one below all to tell them why they exist. This
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  Speaker 3: whole thing is also them questioning why do we exist?
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  Speaker 3: Why is this even a thing? Why are the Hulks
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  Speaker 3: and these monster abominations to think? Because they're nothing more
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  Speaker 3: than just monster, And in response, it reveals itself as
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  Speaker 3: a as an expansion of the one above all, of course,
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  Speaker 3: and the omini and ominant being of cosmic energy, explaining
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  Speaker 3: that a Hulk destroys so things can be rebuilt. The
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  Speaker 3: Hulk is part of the process of destruction, which leads
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  Speaker 3: into creation. He's a comic, He's a cosmic balance, if
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  Speaker 3: you will, because whenever it gets destroyed, always gets, always gets.
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  Speaker 3: Creation comes from that, of course, so you're like, oh, okay.
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  Speaker 4: It.
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  Speaker 3: Then it leads Savage Holk to figure out what is
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  Speaker 3: he going to do with big brain. Realizing big brain
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  Speaker 3: thinking had been the form since he has been deformed
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  Speaker 3: by the gamma radiation, Hulk decides that they are the
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  Speaker 3: same and show and shows some mercy. So this is
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  Speaker 3: childlike Hulk. He's like, huh, you're green, I'm green. We say,
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  Speaker 3: we say, I show you mercy. You say so from there,
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  Speaker 3: as he puts it, and I quote Hulk should forgive
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  Speaker 3: Hulks Yep, Hulk forgive. Hulk should forgive Hulks. Walter then
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  Speaker 3: yeah literally, and then Walter uses his Gamma signature to
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  Speaker 3: find the Blowplace and the Hulks and Jackie and leave
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  Speaker 3: with Bruce and Big Brain. As they get the hell
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  Speaker 3: out of there the one of the Blowplace. So Joe
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  Speaker 3: promises to serve to service Jackie promises his services to
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  Speaker 3: Jackie as penance for destroying her home.
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  Speaker 4: He's a girl.
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  Speaker 3: I understand the childhood trauma, babes, but let me let
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  Speaker 3: me offer my services to you as a as a
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm sorry for your trauma, and it's trauma
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  Speaker 3: dealing with all this too. I got you, girl. So
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  Speaker 3: from there, when they returned to Earth, Bruce having found
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  Speaker 3: equilibrium amongst the Holts and balance in kumbaya with himself,
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  Speaker 3: he then slips away from his friends and family and leaves,
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  Speaker 3: wondering if his decisions had made him a good person.
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  Speaker 3: And Nimba, I swear to God, if you can stop screaming,
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  Speaker 3: I was almost done. I was almost done with this,
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  Speaker 3: and you were nothing but screaming. It's your hairy little
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  Speaker 3: button anyway, So the Hulk they all come back, and
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  Speaker 3: then of course the Hulk is like Bruce Banner's like,
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  Speaker 3: oh my god, am I a good person? Let me
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  Speaker 3: go disappear again from the ones I love you? Just
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  Speaker 3: ponder am I a good person? Bruce? Bruce, Baby Bruce. No, Bruce, Bruce,
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  Speaker 3: You're a good person. But like Bruce, why your family was?
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  Speaker 3: Your friends were pissed at you that you left them
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  Speaker 3: in the first place, and then you leave them again, Like,
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  Speaker 3: why would you do that? Hebe why would you do that?
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  Speaker 3: Heye thays you know what? You know what happens after this?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this is the end of the Immortal Run series,
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  Speaker 3: But then we get into the Incredible Hulk run that's
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  Speaker 3: currently going on, and then he has to fight monsters
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  Speaker 3: like horror monster. I mean, villain of this run is
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  Speaker 3: called the Mother of Monsters. And let me tell you
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  Speaker 3: this ship, the mother of the Incredible Hulk of the
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  Speaker 3: current run. I love it. It's so good. It's so horror,
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  Speaker 3: not in a cosmic horror sense, but like in the
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  Speaker 3: nineties creature future type sense, because the Mother of Monsters
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  Speaker 3: is the mother of all monsters, including the whole that's
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  Speaker 3: his mommy spoiler Alard, And it's it's so good, and
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  Speaker 3: even me talking about the Immortal Hold does not really
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  Speaker 3: doing it justice and again I'm doing the base plot,
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  Speaker 3: not really diving into you learn about versus trauma and
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  Speaker 3: this because bruces boy homeboys fucked up. He needs his therapist,
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  Speaker 3: he needs Sampson, doctor Sampson. Like, girl, Leonard Samson, you
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  Speaker 3: got you got some you got some time to make
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  Speaker 3: up because that boy fucked up and he thinks he's trying.
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  Speaker 3: He's fighting with his cell phone, Like what do I do?
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  Speaker 3: I'm a monster, destroy human story, society, capitalism sucks, and
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  Speaker 3: you're just like you're just literally having an episode.
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  Speaker 4: Bruce.
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  Speaker 3: You're spiraling, bab You're spiraling. You're spiraling.
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  Speaker 4: And then went to.
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  Speaker 3: Daddy, your great great daddy, and you're like, why do
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  Speaker 3: I exist?
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  Speaker 4: Daddy? Chill, Daddy, chill.
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  Speaker 3: Go into your great great great great great great great
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  Speaker 3: great great great great great great great great great grandpappy
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  Speaker 3: who wants to possess your body. It's not gonna make
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  Speaker 3: everything better. Maybe you need to have a kumbay a
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  Speaker 3: like like a meditation moment, you know, all get all
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  Speaker 3: the whole personalities.
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  Speaker 4: Just sit in a circle.
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  Speaker 3: With this whole personalities and just seeing, Yeah, because y'all
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  Speaker 3: are a lot, y'all, each one of you bitches in
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  Speaker 3: that head of his are a lot and it seems
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  Speaker 3: like new ones people the woodwork every single time. He
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  Speaker 3: blinks like, Bruce, we get it. You have daddy issues,
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  Speaker 3: That's what said White.
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  Speaker 4: Does He yep issues.
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  Speaker 3: And then well, his dad, I mean granted, his daddy
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  Speaker 3: issues are warranted because his dad was very abusive. His
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  Speaker 3: dad was very, very fucking abusive, a scientist type, very abusive,
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  Speaker 3: and then killed his mother. And then at his mother's grave,
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  Speaker 3: he kills him his father by accident. He kicks him
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  Speaker 3: in the face and then his head slams against his
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  Speaker 3: mother's gravestone and bashes his head open and he bleeds
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  Speaker 3: out and first time, and I'm like, karma, Karma, karma.
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  Speaker 3: Ms Banner got her revenge death to Brian Banner. But
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  Speaker 3: hashtag Brian Banner not literally because Brian Banners a roast
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  Speaker 3: sticky now hashag daddy daddy Banners on it. Bruce Banner,
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  Speaker 3: he coo, he just cut some isshie.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, friends is a giant green rage monster.
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  Speaker 3: You know I got tipples Tuesday. Don't you turn to
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  Speaker 3: a giant green monster on Tuesday?
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  Speaker 4: Usually on Mondays, That's when I'm more pissed off.
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  Speaker 3: That's fair? That is that is the immortal Hulk run
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  Speaker 3: roller coaster of buffoonery, tumphilery, and what the fuck kind
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  Speaker 3: of body horror shit is this? What the I never
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  Speaker 3: knew you can cut the Hulk into little bite sized
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  Speaker 3: pieces and put it in jars and he's still alive.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know he didn't need air to live. Apparently
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  Speaker 3: he doesn't need air? Is Doctor Jekyll mister Hyde on crack?
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  Speaker 3: So if he's supposed to be immortal, then why why
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  Speaker 3: do we get like comics where he's old old Hulk?
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  Speaker 3: That is?
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  Speaker 4: What's his name?
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  Speaker 3: Ma Phesto? No, not a festo? Oh my god? What's
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: his name? Hold up, old pulp? I know who his
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: name is? Not Hulk as an old man whole?
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: Is his name?
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Oh my god?
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: He has a beard and he's bald.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: I can't think of his name.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: What is his name?
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Maestro? Maestro is old man Hulk where it's basically he's
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: a leader of a society of Hulk like beings because
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: he decided to reproduce use with m h incest he's
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: had to reproduce with his cousin. Yeah, I don't know
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: if it was forcibly or if it just happened to you,
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: because I think by this point she Hulk is dead,
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Jeffer Walters is dead. But basically the gang Hulk Gang,
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: we're all products of Hulk and Bruce and Jennifer, and
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: I'm just like you, no, no, that's not you.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: It's not a honey, it's not a baby.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And basically it becomes like, I don't know, it's
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: so fucking weird. It becomes a bombination like literal abominations
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: at that point because of all the in breeding and
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: ship and you're just like.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ill, yeah, oh.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not cute, or at least it's hinted towards that.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: It's just so weird. The Hulk an old man in
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: the world of old man logan is a lot. Yeah,
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: the descendants there her descendants, which you can kind of
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: pun two and two together. But my shirt is like
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: one of the stronger versions of Hulk. It's like an
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: old man Hulk. He's bald with like long white hair
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: and beard, and he's just like terrible.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: He's a villain. He's a.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: Sour Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, what else do we want to.
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: Talk about them?
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of draw out this app fel a little bit.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: I got through this a lot quicker that thought, waym okay,
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: do you have any questions?
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: I mean shit, you know it's funny. I did have questions,
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: but then you asked me and suddenly like.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Came on you.
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: I was really just like just like I've quite like
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: I have questions, but then like you know some those
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: things that you mentioned something new, like like, okay, so
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: the the one below all is basically an extension to
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: the one above all, just as darker, more destructive half.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: And it's just like.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: It's just like, so then are they just the same person.
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: It's just one is like like an alter ego basically,
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: like so what you're saying is the one the one
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: above all is basically a hulk because the one below
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: all is his hull calf because if they're literally if
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: if one is the extension of the other, and.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: The hulks are products of the one blow all, because
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: everything gamma related is the one blow all, which goes
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: into the whole thing of gamma radiations. The Devil's work.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm, there's a lot there. There's a lot there that.
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: Also, I like the idea of the devil Hulk because
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: like he's intelligent, like honestly, like I like the idea
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: of the Hulk. I just don't like the idea of
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: like losing control of yourself, like just to turn into
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: the Hulk. Like if I were to have Hulk powers,
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: i'd be I'd rather be like Professor Hulk. Yeah, we're
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: basically hulked out, but you're you're hulked oubt but you're
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: still you.
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're you have the you have the driver's seat.
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: Mm hmmm.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, though I heard like in the comics, Professor Hulk
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: is still basically the Hulk, but the roles are reversed.
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: So when Banner's calm, he's Professor Hulk, but if he
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: gets pissed off, he turns into back into his normal
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: human half.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: But it's just like it's it's the Hulk.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: The Hulk is a cluster fuck of huh huh.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: Like I know, the whole time you're talking about it,
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: I'm like, huh huh.
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: And I'm over here looking at I have my notes
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: over here, and I'm walking as you're looking at them.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, as you're talking about it, I'm just like.
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: Taking some of these transformations though, like the Devil Hulk
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: book looked really cool.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: I like, I like him, He's cool. It seems likel
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: is like the best of them all, like the one
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: that I like.
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he's probably like evil as fuck, but
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: like the fact that like he like pops out when
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: day when Banner is in danger.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and this when he seems more of like a
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: father figure for a Banner. He's he's Banner as a
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: child that he has to protect. And I'm like, it's
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: cute and very It's like it's like your separate personality.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: That is like again, it all goes back to Bruce's
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: trauma as a child and how he never got over
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: that obviously, and so his person so he made so
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: his personalities come in and be like no, no, no,
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: we got you, babe. You go take a seat, go
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: drink your juice box. Daddy will take care of them.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and not all not every Hulk, like besides Banner,
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: not every Hulp loses control. Like of course she Hulp
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: doesn't lose control, she's in controller herself.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: Well yeah she does.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: But so and so one day I didn't go over,
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: and I guess I will go over now during this run.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: So after the Wivil War two run when Bruce died,
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: she Hulk Jennifer normally Jennifer Walters is a typical green, tall,
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Imazon looking woman, and she's complete control over the Hulk.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: After Civil War two, after Bruce died, she lost control
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: of her hole, so she became more of a savage Hulk,
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: with a more of like, I'm a hulk and but sheehole.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: So when she saw Bruce alive again, she wanted to
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: go fucking kill him. She's like, you did this, did me?
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: You caused this trauma to me?
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: God damn it.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: So she so she she had a whole storyline where
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: she had to deal with her other half because she
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: normally never had to deal with it. She was always
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: in control. But when she hit the fan in Civil
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: War two, she's like, oh, I got to really take
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: rings of that again. So that that's a really interesting
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: storyline too. That's its own super comic that you all
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: should read because I love it. Of course I'm a
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: huge Shee Hulk fan.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: That's just me.
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: But yeah, as she was, I was just saying, now,
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: it's just like she like, it doesn't seem like all
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: of the different Hulks, like the different Hulk variants that
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: are out there.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: They are not all like out of control.
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: I mean, I know, like okay, one thing I never
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: understood was abomination like a raged monster like the Hulk,
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: or was he like in control himself just a psychopathic
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: like just a killer who's in control?
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Well, I think Granted I have not read all the
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Fulk runs, of course, I've only read this one and
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: the newer when it's currently today. From from what I
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: have gathered reading The Immortal Hulk and The Incredible Hulk
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: today is each of the Hulks have their normal half
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: and then of course their a whole calf or their
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: whole Camma half, and the majority of the time it
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: seems like everyone has their shit together, except for Bruce,
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: who obviously doesn't. But you kind of get hints that
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: the other ones do, like Red heartpe throughout the whole
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: thing kind of gives you into kind of gives you
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: an idea that maybe she she isn't she is in control,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: but there's someone else up there as well. Of course,
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: that kind of goes with all the Hulks like uh
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Sasquatch and every except for Samson the Therapist. He doesn't
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: have a Hulk form. He's just a big, muscly, burly guy.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: He doesn't really have a ulternate half and bear to
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: the others. So he's the only member of the Hulk
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: family that I would say is normal ish. He doesn't
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: have to worry about hulking out and losing control like
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: the others do have.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just a guy who happens to.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Be versus therapist, and he's just buff as fuck and
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: super human strength and ship from the gamer radiation.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: That's it.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: I think Samson's the only one that doesn't have to
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: worry about that too much, is as far as I
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: from what I've read, it doesn't seem like he has
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: to deal with that necessarily, unlike She Hulk, Bruce Banner
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: mostly Fasquatch bomination who else read She Hulk Red Hulk
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: Red Hulk is General Ross. By the way, General Ross
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: during during this whole run is dead. There's any other Hulk.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: There's a living Hulk, but he's some brainwashing looking bigfoot
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: motherfucker on Monster Island that was abandoned because the monsters
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: made their own nation apparently.
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, so was he he was abandoned by the
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: other Hulks or just like you was abandoned.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: By the other monster. They're ki you like monsters because
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: there is a monk. I know, there's a common call
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: of monster island that all that this kid draws up monster.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: You like monsters, and they all come to life and ship.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: There's a whole island them. So I'm guessing they made
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: like a nation or something of them. And I'm like, oh,
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: that's cool.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: Oh I should read that. I should read that.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: I think I have that somewhere. But yeah, so any
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: other questions fire.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: You can't fire me. You're right, I.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: Can't fire you.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: M h.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: You're too engraved in this and I need to care
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: about you too much to do that to you.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: See what I have to deal with, y'all. See what
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: I have to deal with, y'all.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: I don't even talk about I'm a blessing. I'm amazing,
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: I'm fancy, I'm like, I'm a catch. First, you didn't
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: tell me that when you said you'd love me. Yeah, yeah,
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: bitcham I know you're looking at your own reflection in
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: that camera. Oh yeah, looking at me?
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: You know you can like have discord, like have just
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: one person's image up at a time when in video call, right, so.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Right now, really really really really okay. So yeah, yeah
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: that says episode y'all or today's episodes. I don't know.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: I'm I break this up, but I'll break it up somehow.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: They'll be on House of Ideas that I'll be on
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: book Watchers all that fun stuff. Yeah, that's a day's episode.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know what else to say. I try to
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: you went all with questions, but somebody over here is
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: not give me anything. I'm sorry.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: Hulk is not really my favorite.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: He wasn't either. He wasn't mine either until I've read this,
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, you know what I mean, he could
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: close up the ranks a little bit.
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean for this, Like sure it was pretty interesting,
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: but like I hope this is not has never really
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: been my favorite.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: Like like I I've never.
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: Really liked the whole It's never been that kind of
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: like I'm very crazy about to meeting with this, Like
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: it's pretty it was cool, like oh, okay, it's.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: No, I feel that I'm not really that big of
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: a fan hook either, really, but no, I am. Well,
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: it's from if the runs stick up to this the
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: UK spooky gory shit, what's it? Keey's up to that.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: Let's look around. I'll join the party from here. I'm sad.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: I'm drinking. I'm drinking a nice little drink as I'm reading, like,
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: apparently this new run is going to end with Hulk
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: dying permanently like dead dead, and he comes back as
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: an infernal demon, and I'm like, what why behind on
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: the new run? Funny start from the beginning and read
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: it and read it up to date. Yeah, it becomes
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: like this, there's this new run coming out that's X
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: where it's like the Infernal Hulk where he loses to
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: the villain the Mother Monsters, the Mammia Monsters, takes his
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: body and like turns them into a monster abomination where
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: half his body's on fire with green flames and the
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: other half is like undead. It's cool. I was like,
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: oh shit, he lost, Okay, bad heay bet love that
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: love that for him, love that for her. We love
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: a queen, We love a monster mommy, we love a
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: mother monster. Oh gay ah God. Anyway, anyway, thank you
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: all for listening today's episodes of.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: The Mortal.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Go read it on Marvel Unlimit didn't like I did,
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: We're buy the Omnibus because like, I want the omnibus.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: It's so good. But yeah, join us next week as
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: we talk about something else. What buck are we doing next?
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: Uh? Next week we can go ahead and review The
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: Ruins by Scott Smith. This is just this is just
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: a cover. This is my actual book copy.
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: I've had this book for years and I've not read it,
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: and I've been meaning to get it around to reading it.
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: Now I'm finally going to read it, and I've already
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: started reading it and I should be able to finish
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: it by next week.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: If not, we're still We're still going to review it. Ruins.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: Those of you who don't know is a it is
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: a horror.
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: It is a horror novel taking place in uh rural Mexico,
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: where a bunch of tourists get trapped on a old
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: Aztec pyramid of Mayan pyramid and they're trapped there because
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: they're trapped there by local Mayans and they live and
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: they realized it's because they are they had touched these
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: plants that turn out to be very vicious and they're
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: carnivorous and also very invasive. So the Mayans prevent this
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: very like prolific carnivorous plant from growing. So it's like,
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: so The Ruins was adapted into a movie back in
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: two thousand and eight. I think it's been a hot minute.
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: This movie came out a long time ago. It was
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: a really good movie, though honestly it did not hold up.
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: Like when it first came out, it was pretty cool.
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: But like you watch it now and it's like, this
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: is like one of those cheap movies that gets released
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: straight that goes straight to like Sci Fi Network or
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: on shutter.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: Pretty much so. But I've been wanting to read it,
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: read the novel for some time, for quite some time.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: I'm reading it now and.
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, by next week we're gonna go ahead and review it.
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: Talk about these plant monsters, so it sounds now
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: Might