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89. LISTEN Method Deep Dive: Improve Your Episodes · Podcast Growth, Podcast SEO, and Podcast Launch Strategies for Mom Entrepreneurs | Podcasting for Moms

• 0:46
  SPEAKER_00: Last month, a client sent me over her episode analytics and asked me this question: why does everyone stop listening around the four-minute mark?
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_00: So I pulled up her episode, and four minutes in, she was still doing her intro, still thanking her sponsor and still telling people what she had for breakfast before she got to the actual point of the episode.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_00: People didn't tune out of the episode because the content was bad.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_00: They left because she made them wait for it.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_00: And here's the thing: that is not just her.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_00: That is basically every mom entrepreneur that I've ever worked with in year one.
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  SPEAKER_00: You've got a whole show full of good ideas, and you're burying every single one of them under three minutes of fluff before you say anything worth hearing.
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  SPEAKER_00: That is not a content problem, that is an episode design problem, and it's completely fixable.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_00: Let's talk about it.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Podcasting for Moms, the show for moms in business ready to start, grow, and scale a podcast that turns their listeners into buyers.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_00: I'm Jenny Summson, a podcast strategist and fellow mom entrepreneur.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're in the right place if you want to learn how to start and grow a podcast that attracts your ideal clients and really does the heavy lifting for you when it comes to selling your offers, all while balancing life as a busy mom.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_00: Are you ready to create a podcast that grows your income, impact, and influence?
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_00: Let's make podcasting work for you.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_00: Because as moms, we know how to get things done.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_00: All right, let's jump into the episode.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, hey, and welcome back to Podcasting for Moms, the show for mom entrepreneurs using their podcast to actually build a business, not just build a hobby with a microphone.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'm Jenny Sennison, and today we're back with part two of our Lives and Method framework deep dive series.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_00: Last time we covered the first letter of the framework, which is L, which is L and stands for Lay the Foundation.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_00: If you've not listened to that episode yet, go back and start there because everything we're talking about today assumes that you already know who your show is for.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_00: Today is the I, which stands for improve your episodes.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this is a stage where most podcast advice actually lives, which is exactly why so many people think it's the whole answer.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, it's not.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's just one piece, but it's a piece that will make or break whether anyone sticks around long enough to become a buyer.
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  SPEAKER_00: So let's get into the episode.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the first pillar of this letter of the framework is the first 60 seconds of your episode decide everything.
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  SPEAKER_00: So here's what I want you to sit with.
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  SPEAKER_00: Your listener made a decision to hit play on your episode.
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  SPEAKER_00: That is the hard part, and it's already done.
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  SPEAKER_00: But what happens in the next 60 seconds decides whether that person, whether that decision was worth it to them or not.
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  SPEAKER_00: I feel like most episodes waste that window.
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  SPEAKER_00: They have music, they have a quick welcome back, they thank everyone for listening, they share what's going on in their life this week.
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  SPEAKER_00: And by the time you get to the actual like hook, half your audience has already tapped over to listen to something else.
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  SPEAKER_00: A hook is not a warmup.
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  SPEAKER_00: A hook is a promise.
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  SPEAKER_00: It tells a listener exactly what they're gonna walk away knowing or being able to do, and it tells them that fast.
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  SPEAKER_00: Something like, today I'm gonna be breaking down the exact three-step framework I use to blank.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's a hook.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or whereas something like, hey guys, so this week has been absolutely wild, that is a warmup, and warmups belong after the hook, not before it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So structure follows the same logic.
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  SPEAKER_00: A strong episode has a shape: hook, then a clear teaching arc, then a specific action, and then a close.
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  SPEAKER_00: If someone described your last three episodes back to you, could they tell you what shape each one had?
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  SPEAKER_00: Or would it just be she talked about business stuff for 15 to 20 minutes?
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  SPEAKER_00: That's the test.
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  SPEAKER_00: That is the test here.
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  SPEAKER_00: Vibes are not structure.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then we have pillar two.
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  SPEAKER_00: Storytelling is the retention engine, not the decoration.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I talked to a lot of moms who think that the story is the fun, optional part of an episode.
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  SPEAKER_00: The thing that you sprinkle in if you have a little bit of time.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, I think that's backwards.
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  SPEAKER_00: Story is not the decoration on top of the teaching.
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  SPEAKER_00: Story is what makes the teaching actually stick.
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  SPEAKER_00: People do not remember your bullet points.
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  SPEAKER_00: They remember the moment that your client almost quit her business and then had her first$5,000 launch three months later.
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  SPEAKER_00: That story is doing the actual work of holding attention while the lesson rides alongside it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So let me give you an example because I've seen this exact pattern more times than I can count.
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  SPEAKER_00: A listener, let's call her the every other week podcaster.
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  SPEAKER_00: She has a great episode idea.
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  SPEAKER_00: She opens with, so today I want to talk about consistency.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then she goes straight into the five tips.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is clean, organized, but it's also completely forgettable.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now flip it.
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  SPEAKER_00: She opens with the actual moment she almost deleted her show after episode nine because no one was listening.
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  SPEAKER_00: She walks through what changed her mind and then delivers those same five tips inside of that story.
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  SPEAKER_00: She's sharing technically the same information, but there's a completely different retention because now the listener has an emotional anchor to hang the lesson on.
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  SPEAKER_00: Storytelling is not the soft skill, it is the delivery mechanism for everything else you're trying to teach.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then we have the third pillar of this letter in the framework, which is every episode needs to have a job.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this is something I talk about frequently, but this is the pillar that separates a podcast from a business asset, and it's the one that most people never think about until I bring it up.
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  SPEAKER_00: So every episode you publish is either doing a job for your business or it's just existing as a content drop that made you feel productive for an afternoon.
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  SPEAKER_00: There is no neutral option.
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  SPEAKER_00: An episode without a job is not harmless.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is a completely missed opportunity.
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  SPEAKER_00: A job means that the episode connects to something.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe it leads someone towards your lead magnet.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe it plants the belief that someone needs before they can say yes to your offer.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe it plants the belief that someone needs before they can say yes to your offer.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's designed to get shared because it's genuinely useful on its own.
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  SPEAKER_00: But you should be able to answer before you ever hit record, what is this episode actually for?
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  SPEAKER_00: And if your answer is, I don't know, it just felt like a good topic, then that's your sign to go back to your content plan.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this is also where content planning comes in.
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  SPEAKER_00: You cannot build episodes with jobs if you're deciding what to record 20 minutes before you sit down to record it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Planning ahead, even loosely, is what lets you build episodes that lead somewhere instead of a scattered pile of one-off topics that never really add up to anything.
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  SPEAKER_00: So here's what I want you to stop doing immediately.
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  SPEAKER_00: I want you to stop publishing an episode and hoping that it does something.
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  SPEAKER_00: As I say all the time, hope is not a strategy and it definitely is not an episode structure.
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  SPEAKER_00: So before your next recording, I want you to answer these three questions.
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  SPEAKER_00: What's my hook in the first 30 seconds?
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  SPEAKER_00: What story am I using to carry this lesson?
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  SPEAKER_00: And what job is this episode actually doing for my business?
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  SPEAKER_00: If you can't answer all three, then you're not ready to hit record yet.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that is not a punishment, that is just the foundation of every episode that actually performs.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I want to bring this all home for you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Improving your episodes comes down to three things.
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  SPEAKER_00: Number one, your hook instructure decides whether anyone sticks around past minute one.
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  SPEAKER_00: Your storytelling is what makes the lesson actually stick instead of sliding right off.
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  SPEAKER_00: And every single episode needs a job, aka a reason it exists beyond I felt like recording something today.
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  SPEAKER_00: Get those three right and you stop making episodes people politely finish, and you start making episodes that people actually remember.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if you want to know exactly where your current episodes are losing people, I built something just for that.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's called the Podcast Girl Scorecard.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's free and it walks you through exactly where your show is strong and where it's quietly leaking listeners.
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  SPEAKER_00: Go ahead, go take it.
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  SPEAKER_00: The link is in the show notes for you now.
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  SPEAKER_00: All right, that's a wrap on this episode.
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  SPEAKER_00: I want to thank you so much for hanging out with me today.
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  SPEAKER_00: Next week we'll be moving into the S, which stands for Simplify Your Workflow, because strategy without a system behind it is just a really good idea that you'll burn out trying to maintain.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'll see you then.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for tuning into Podcasting for Moms.
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  SPEAKER_00: I hope today's episode gave you the tools and inspiration you need to make your podcast work smarter, not harder.
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• 8:39
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• 8:44
  SPEAKER_00: Remember, you're not just building a podcast, you're building your legacy.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_00: Until next time, friends.