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Hope Beyond Failure · The World Knowledge

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  Speaker 1: Well, good afternoon, listeners. Thank you for listening to Lament
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  Speaker 1: of Hope podcast. And I'm very grateful. This is going
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  Speaker 1: to be a little unconventional, because if you're watching this,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to see it's just the logo for the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: But Dr. Katina and I really tried, and unfortunately, we
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  Speaker 1: weren't able to do video, but that's okay.
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  Speaker 2: You know, our judgment is based on what's in our heart,
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  Speaker 2: and God's going to judge that. And, you know, no
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  Speaker 2: matter what works we do, that by itself is not enough. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, but also at the same time, faith without
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  Speaker 2: works is dead, as we all know. So I think
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  Speaker 2: we have to show tangible things. Okay, I'm a believer.
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  Speaker 1: I have faith.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, show me you have good faith by the works
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  Speaker 2: you're doing. I think those things have to go hand
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  Speaker 2: in hand. And I see, I see that. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: everybody's going to be different, right? I mean, how you
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  Speaker 2: approach that will be totally different for me.
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  Speaker 1: And that's okay.
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  Speaker 2: That's, you know, God is a big, a big, God
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  Speaker 2: is big, right? He's not like a small, small minded
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  Speaker 2: person that says, I have to do this one little job.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, well, whatever gifts you were given, you glorify
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  Speaker 2: God by, by what you're, by your works. What are
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  Speaker 2: you doing to glorify God in what you do? I
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  Speaker 2: think for all of us, we have to, that look
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  Speaker 2: in my life. And I think everybody has that potential.
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  Speaker 2: We just have to figure out what that is. And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think a long answer to your question.
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  Speaker 1: No, it was a long question. Thanks for bearing with me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm still, I'm like trying to, I'm like, this is,
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking at a black screen and I'm looking at
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  Speaker 1: a black phone and I'm trying to like, my questions
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  Speaker 1: are not as succinct as I want them to be.
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  Speaker 1: So I appreciate your patience. But I, I didn't, You know,
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  Speaker 1: when you're talking about, because it sounds to me like
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  Speaker 1: you're saying, I have been given a gift and I
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  Speaker 1: want to do something with what the Lord has given
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  Speaker 1: me because I see it as a way of gratitude.
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  Speaker 1: It's not so much, it's something I need to do
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  Speaker 1: because I can't just be blessed and not bless others.
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  Speaker 1: But I wanted to ask you because, I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: guess growing up, and I'd like to hear your thoughts
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  Speaker 1: on this, I mean, since personally for you, I definitely,
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  Speaker 1: growing up in the evangelical community, not the Roman Catholic community,
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  Speaker 1: do you feel that evangelicals are people who profess Christ,
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  Speaker 1: but they're not Roman Catholics? Do you feel like there's
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  Speaker 1: not an emphasis enough on doing good things in the
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  Speaker 1: sense of working out Blessings you've received. Do you feel
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  Speaker 1: like there's too much of a, Oh, well I'm saved.
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  Speaker 1: I believe Jesus died for me. Um, so I'm good.
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  Speaker 1: I don't need to do anything. Do you feel that way?