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- Roc: Welcome back, swappers. It is Jersey Swap Podcast. We got ourselves a Thursday morning drop for the pod. Rock on the mic. C dub on the mic. We're heading into week six. We got some good football this weekend. We got some good games. C-Dub: We got s we got a lot of good games. A lot of good games. Roc: And I I'm sorry if I got a little distracted there. I just got a a call when my phone was on do not disturb. So we got some good good football this week. And we got week six starting Thursday night. Seahawks at Broncos in mile high. Seahawks favored by two and a half with an overunder of forty and a half. Dub, initial thoughts? C-Dub: Let me be clear, Rock. I mean no offense. Roc: Yeah. Yeah. C-Dub: I think the Seahawks shit pump. Roc: What was the text I sent you today? C-Dub: What'd you send me today? You said something for the pod, right? You said s you said you have a pot a take for the pod, right? Roc: Yeah. I really don't I I really don't know why I C-Dub: Yeah no I'm looking now. Roc: can't get get off them and why they must just have a soft spot in my heart. But man, this Denver this I know this Denver C-Dub: I why you can't that's why I said Yeah That's why I said I mean no disrespect! That's why I said that. Roc: team, man, I don't know, bro. I I something about I I always just think that if they just If they they they just click. If their offense just clicks then I really don't know who can beat them in the league. And it hasn't happened yet. And maybe I'm just gonna keep on banking it. But I don't know, man. Peyton took over the play calling last week and they still looked horrible. I don't know. C-Dub: Nothing, dude. No I I mean, I I think is the big winner in this Davis Webb. Roc: Mm maybe, may maybe. C-Dub: the questions are off him. I mean I think and I think that I've now that we're a week removed from Sean Payton taking back play calling, was was was Davis Webb ever going to be successful? Roc: I don't I he was getting head coaching gigs this off season. That's the reason C-Dub: I know and Roc: why Peyton gave him play calling 'cause he didn't want to lose him. C-Dub: I know and then I mean, but is he the problem? Like what is I don't I I don't I can't diagnose. I'm not a football doctor, but there's a problem there. And we talked about it last time. Roc: I I really think right now I really think right now it's just they they can't run the ball and Bo Nix is just regressing regressing this season, right now. Just as a as of today he's just been regressing and maybe it's just he's in a little slump. But yeah, I don't know. This is both teams coming into it, three and two. Seahawks defense's been elite this year. Fewest fewest yards allowed per game in the league and Denver's offense ranks twenty sixth in scoring at under twenty points per game. So it kind of seems like a recipe for a Seahawk ship pumping. C-Dub: And a recipe for the under, in my opinion. I like the under a lot here. Roc: Yeah. I four forty and a half, I don't mind that. But it C-Dub: I know, I think that's it's just it's just a it's a statistically lower when you look at the grand scheme of the slate. It's it's very low, but I mean I Seahawks don't really have a run game, and the Broncos still have a defense, and then the Seahawks defense just kind of has been on a dominant run here, and I don't see the Broncos getting right in this game. If this is a get r if they if they had a g if there was a get right game, this ain't it. Roc: You you want to hear a crazy stat dub that I saw. C-Dub: Give it to me, Rock. Give it to me. Roc: When we were talking about the Seahawks last week and how the run games just vanished and how they're so JSN dependent. Obviously JSN's been balling. He's having another crazy year. He C-Dub: Hell yeah. Roc: leads leads the NFL with five hundred and eighty-three receiving yards and seven TDs through the first five weeks. JSN's accounted for forty nine percent of the Seahawks receiving yards. Denver's entire receiving group Has combined for five hundred and twenty nine yards and three touchdowns. The entire receiving core for the Broncos is less than just JSN. C-Dub: It's just sad 'cause they they they have guys. They have guys. It is unbelievable. Roc: It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. Sor Sorton's been a Sutton's been a dude. They go out and they get Waddle and he's been nothing. He's had like one good game. Whatever the week he put up like a hundred and thirty. They're just not giving him many shots. And yeah, I don't know. Passer Tain's ankle. I don't I C-Dub: And we kind of Roc: don't know if he's gonna be playing yet. JSM we talked about, he rolled his ankle last week, but he's he we just got the Shafty tweet. He's good to go. So Seahawks should be at full strength. Broncos, I I gotta hear if Passer Tain and what's his name are playing. The other white cornerback. Riley Moss. Passertain C-Dub: You look at the Yep. Roc: and Riley Moss, they're both out last week, so we gotta see if they're both gonna be back this week or not. But It's looking grim for Denver. C-Dub: Yeah, i and I know they're going a mile high, all this, all that, but I mean, what bow are we gonna get? It hasn't been a good bow. And with Boat, I mean, he takes the ups and the downs. He's s i he's similar to a Jameis where watching him play football is an experience. You get a lot of good mixed with a lot of bad. It makes it fun, but it hasn't been fun. I mean, I w I want them to get right. They're a fun team. The league's better when when Denver's good, but I s I see ho this is a this is will be a Seahawks domination game. Roc: Yeah, with all the the stats and everything I just backed up, how this should be a Seahawks, get in there and get out game. Give me Denver. Give me Denver dub. Give me Denver. No. C-Dub: I n I know y I know you're dying on the hill and I'm not gonna die I'm not gonna die with you, but I'll I'll be there to watch. Roc: This this might be an I'm an idiot clip, I can't lie. This one might be very, very bad. And before we get in the next matchup though, I just wanna say we have a great, great Jersey Jersey matchup tomorrow. Both teams are wearing C-Dub: yes, yes, yeah. Roc: their color rusher throwbacks. So Broncos wearing their orange crush and Seahawks wearing their what bright yellow, old school blue, whatever it was. So C-Dub: Yeah, what yeah. Roc: just the the visuals will be on on point tomorrow, just for the for the watchers. C-Dub: yeah. I'm excited for it. And we'll have plays for that. We'll have plays. Roc: Yeah, we'll put up tomorrow. next game. Sunday, nine thirty in London. Houston Texans versus Jacksonville Jaguars. Jaguars favored by two and a half with a overunder of forty two and a half. C-Dub: Rock. This is my Roc: yeah. C-Dub: ga this is my game of the week. Roc: I love I love that. I love it. C-Dub: This is my game of the week. I think this is gonna be a great game, and I will be tapped in for this one. I'll be hungover, but I'll be t I'll be I I will be tapped into this. I am very excited for this game. Roc: Love that. C-Dub: I think there's some big storylines here. Montgomery's week to week. Jags first division game. Texans are already one and one in their division. I think we haven't seen the Jags get into it into a division fight. I mean, they're obviously their home, so you know them in London. Roc: Yeah. Home in London. C-Dub: I think it's to be a great game and it's DEF CON one for the the Houston Texans right now. This I think a win here kinda steadies the ship. It kinda gets gets buy in from me with their lackluster start. I don't I haven't looked at anything with Marv getting in. I'm not sure. He probably I'm assuming he probably won't have a big role in this one. But I mean Nico's still gonna be be doing his thing. I think this will be a close game. My thing is I was looking at Texans defensive stats. They're currently twenty third in opponent passing yards. And Jackson proved last week that they ha they have the ability to do the air raid with Strange and Washington. So I'm excited to see this game. This is one that I am very excited to watch. And it's crazy that the Texans have a must win that game this early in the season. Roc: Yeah. I I kinda love you putting the nuts on the table for the game of the week 'cause I actually I love this matchup. Even though it's one and four versus four and one. we talked about it last pod. I mean, if Texans win this game, they could they get a little a little sneaky. See what the sprinkle is for the division. I I mean, I don't know. Jacksonville's defense, allowing just fourteen points per game, second in the league right now, which I kind of feel like has gone under the radar. Because Tila C-Dub: I mean, honestly the Jags have gone under the radar in in general, I feel. Roc: They're yeah, i in general, they're great team, but I feel like whenever you think about them, it's like, T Law, Parker Washington. You don't really nobody really talks about their their defense. Obviously Liam Cohn's offensive coach, so that always gets the headlines for the turnaround. But on the other side of things, the Texans, you said that their passing game in defense ranks twenty third. I think Will Anderson and Dino Danielle Hunter finally woke up a little bit. They had four sacks last week. Granted it was against Tennessee. But I think they might continue continue on. Cause Eagles, Jalen Carter, they were getting to T Law, they were pressuring him the whole day. That's why that game was so close when it really shouldn't have been. So I think that would be a big factor in this week's game. Get those two studs. Anderson, depoy, favorite. Daniel Hunter last year, underrated fourteen and a half sacks. So obviously, you already said the the Marv trade, big deal. Reunite with Stroud. And you said You don't know what kind of impact they're gonna have, but I I have a heavy nuke play for the listeners. I looked at the Marvin Harrison receiving C-Dub: a nuke, a rock nuke. Roc: Marvin Harrison receiving line as of today, twenty six and a half yards. I love the over. I love the over. C-Dub: I think a lot of people beyond that too. I mean Roc: I think he is gonna I think he's gonna get enough snaps. I I think they're they're gonna get him up to speed, but I think he's gonna come out there rejuvenated, ready to show the world that he's still a stud. Because I think he I think he was just sick of it in Arizona. I think he was just being a little bit maybe a little prima donna, a little dramatic, but you gotta be a wide receiver one, you gotta have that little diva in you. And I think he was just kind of totally checked out in Arizona. I think he's gonna come back for vengeance and I think he's gonna look really good. And I think Stroud's gonna make it a point of. emphasis to get in the rock. C-Dub: I'd love to see it. I would love to see a rock. And for my my pick'em, I'm taking I am going to take I'm I've been back and forth on this all day. I'm gonna go Jags. I think the Jags still edge this out. I think they do cover two and a half, but I think it'll be a really good game. Roc: Yeah, my pick, I I think we might have a theme in this podcast 'cause my brain is telling me obviously go with the Jags. They're legit. They're a great team. Probably one of the best teams in the AFC. Just talked about it with Seattle. They're one of the best teams in the league and I went with Denver. But you know, my heart I'm I want the Texans. I'm taking the Texans this week. I think I C-Dub: Hey, do it. Roc: I think this is the momentum game that they're gonna start rolling. Obviously last week was the the cupcake. with Tennessee, you know, feel themselves a little bit, feel a little bit better and I think they carry it carry it into this week. C-Dub: Hey, guess we'll see. My game of the week though. Roc: Yeah. Alright, next one Ravens at Browns. Ravens favored by five and a half with a overunder of forty two and a half. C-Dub: This is a Browns gut gut check. This, I mean, I've been high on the Browns. If you listen to this, I'm high I'm I don't know why. It's one of those one of my sicko th takes, I guess. This is one of those I think this is a must cover game for them. I'm not saying that they need to get out of this game with a win, because they still technically do have a winning record. This is do they it's it's a do they belong. Do they belong in this conversation with a division that is wide open as I've been saying often. So I mean I think it I think it's gonna be interesting if Lamar plays. I I don't I there's not really much word out. They're keeping that close to the chest from what I've seen. But I mean, this is a do the Browns have some fight in them? Roc: Yeah, I think this is what we talked about. This is kinda like are th are they gonna be a threat the rest of the way or are they just a good story the first month of the season for Cleveland. I think this is a game that you kinda have to show up and show that, you know, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be around in the AFC North for the rest of the year. Obviously Snoop Huntley is serviceable. He showed showed out on prime time against the Falcons. He can definitely go out there and win a game. I kinda like love the under in this, forty two and a half. Browns defense really good. Their offense lackluster. If Lamar's not playing backup quarterback gets a good Cleveland defense, I I don't know, I kinda like the under in this game. C-Dub: Yeah, and again, who knows if Concepcion's playing, he's still in the concussion protocol. And he's a big piece of that. Roc: Yeah. C-Dub: one two punch with him in Boston. So it'll be exciting to see if I mean exciting to see if he plays. I hope he does, 'cause I think the two of them have really been sh been pla been showing out as rookies. So I'm excited to see that. And then it's we got a mid Deshaun last week. It's what which one will show up today? Or not today, Roc: Yeah. C-Dub: but on game day, which one will show up? Roc: Yeah, I think the Ravens are gonna send some pressure, a lot of pressure throughout throughout this game. interesting stat Cleveland's O line has been very, very, very pitiful this year. Watson was sacked eight times last week against the Jets and got hit thirteen times. Watson has nineteen sacks this year leading the NFL as of week five or week six. That's no bueno. And a Baltim Baltimore defense that they put on their hard hat, they go out there, they make plays, they wanna hit they wanna hit guys. I I think they're they're gonna send send some pressure on these guys this week. C-Dub: Yeah. one play I will be taking if Conception's out. I'm just gonna I'm just gonna take Judy Yards. I'd I'd like to see him Roc: Domanda. C-Dub: step up and do something. I mean, prove prove to the other we talked about trade deadline. Prove to other teams out there that you're still a guy. Roc: Yeah. C-Dub: so if Conception's out, I'll be taking that. But for my pick here, I am gonna take the Ravens to cover. I'm high Roc: Mm-hmm. C-Dub: on the Browns. I like I just don't I just It's a division game and the Ravens are obviously the better team. We haven't even talked about Henry. I mean, th their defense is good. It's gonna be ex it's gonna be an exciting chess match there. See if they can get them going. But I got the Ravens covering this one. Roc: Yeah, hopefully Conception plays and Lamar doesn't play because the dogs are barking. Give me Cle Cleveland. This is for you. My live dog, my live dog of the week C-Dub: I love that take, Rock. I love that take. Live dog. Roc: are the Cleveland Browns dub. I think this is divisional game. Five and a half is too many points. I think it's gonna be a field goal game. And I think the Browns, if Snoop Puntley's playing, I think the Browns are gonna load the box. They wanna shut down Henry. Henry went crazy in prime time against the Falcons. First and foremost, they're gonna wanna shut him down and make Snoop Puntley be a passer and see see what he can do. So give me Cleveland, give me the Browns, and I love them as my dog this week. Love them. C-Dub: No, it's a great I I like him too. I you I'm high on him. I I I hope I hope it happens. I just don't see a path. Especially if Lamar plays. And and that line'll move too, so we'll see we'll see what happens Roc: Yeah. C-Dub: there. Roc: We'll see come Sunday. Yeah. Next game, New Orleans Saints at the New York Giants. Saints favorites by one and a half points with an overunder of forty five and a half. C-Dub: is another game where Rock you can tell me if I'm an idiot, but I think the Giants are the better team. Roc: So do I I feel like a broken record the last three weeks I've said the exact same thing. The exact same thing. C-Dub: I know we keep doing this. We keep doing this. And it keeps happening. And this is another, I mean, this is another gut track. I also sound like a broken record because I'm starting to see S some power rankings. I might be a sicko for this looking at a ton of power rankings and searching on Twitter, just NFL power rankings, to see where the Giants are top ten. And there are some out there. There are some out there, and I Roc: You saw the top I I saw one the other day. C-Dub: my heart, my heart really really grew. I'm like the Grinch. My heart just grew a little bit when I saw that. prove you aren't frauds. And I am I I think the G men, I mean, I'm obviously gonna take them for the pick'em. We're doing this talk track now. I want to see my team on every top ten power ranking. And I think if they can I mean the and again the Saints they're not good, but they're not something you can play around with with their offense. And we'll see where it goes. Rock, how you feeling about this one? Roc: Yeah, I I obviously I l I like the Giants in this one. Broken record. I think we're the better team overall. And I the first thing that I wanna see and I wanna notice is what kind of energy we come out with, the Giants come out with after the tie. 'Cause it kind of is like one of those not like sick feelings that you get after a tie, 'cause it's a game that you should have won. then you should have lost and you and you walk away with a tie out. I want to just see what kind of energy they come out with if there's still a little bit of that jet lag where they're like, last week, or if they come out and they're like, All right, that week's past us. We let one get away, let's go do our job, let's get to four one and one, and let's head into the bye week feeling confident, feeling good. So I think you gotta continue continue to target neighbors, continue to target likely, drive the ball downfield. Take some shots. Hopefully we get a good Jameis game. Just like last week. He keeps momentum going and he's heating up. Catch a little bit of fire. And I like the Giants in this game. C-Dub: Rock, I have a little game for you though, before we move on from this one. I'm setting the line at five and a half. Can you guess what line I'm setting? Roc: Five and a half. Interceptions C-Dub: How many times does JJ McCarthy touch the field and get a snap? Roc: that's actually a good line. That's a really good line. I like that. He got what? Three or four last week. I'm C-Dub: Five and a half. Over or under. I think he got three. I think. Roc: gonna take the gimme the over. I can see him getting six six play calls and maybe he spins one out. Maybe he throws airs one out. C-Dub: I I mean teams teams they have to they have to be a little smarter on the offense when they you have to you have to know that teams are gonna tee up. Teams are gonna send send send a how send a a run a run package. It's it's a run package. Make throw it. Make throw it. Make make him give him the give Roc: Yeah. we all C-Dub: the easy give them something easy. I don't care. Just Roc: We also got a little former team revenge game. Big Jabbo wins used to play in New Orleans, so maybe he's gonna come out here with vengeance and wanna air it out. So if anyone likes Jabbo wins four hundred plus passing yards, five touchdown day, go go check in the the DraftKings, see what the value is there. All right. C-Dub: Not sponsored, but thank you, DraftKings. Roc: Yeah, no, not sponsored. Not yet. But before we get off this, I have a giant's hot take too, by the way. And this C-Dub: you texted me this. I want it. I want it. Roc: this is the hot take. This is also just living in fantasy land. And I've seen some rebuttal on Twitter about it. But I also I want to hear your thoughts, Chris. So the trade C-Dub: Give it to me. Give it to me. Roc: deadline's about a month away, November, a few weeks, three weeks away. And depending on how we think the Chargers season is going to progress. There's a real world C-Dub: where are we going with this one? Roc: there's a real world where I could see them being and eight, and nine maybe at the deadline. C-Dub: Are you saying s are you meaning seller are you saying sellers that they are selling? Okay. Roc: Yes, real sellers, yes. And the name that's getting brought up a lot of buzz is Cleo Mac, which I could definitely see. But another name that Adam Scheffner went out and talked about in a recent interview was Justin Herbert. I love Dart. I love him. And Herbert's having his down year. And it looks bad. It looks really, really gross right now. Harbaughs love each other. Harbaugh's harping helping Harbaugh's. This is a fantasy land. Dart and two first for Herbert. He's already under contract. It's not even that bad of a contract. And you can't diminish his talent. He's an absolute stud. He's putting up five thousand yards in forty touchdown seasons with no offensive line and no weapons. He's still a cre cream of the crop quarterback play in this league. I would love to see that trade happen. Dub dot C-Dub: Yuck. Roc: Really? C-Dub: Dart's the guy. I mean, why would we go and get Roc: I I C-Dub: JJ then? Why would we go and get a guy that we can get for cheap? And then get and then get Herbert? I I mean, you're this is y this is a fantasy of us getting rid of Dart. This that's the fantasy. I don't want to I don't want to Roc: I said it was fantasyland. But if week nine comes around the teams it's fantasy land, but if if C-Dub: accept that fantasy. I'm not that's a nightmare. I love Dart. Roc: Yeah. C-Dub: Dart's got the city, Dart's got love. I love Dart. Roc: I love him too and I want him to be the guy, but Herbert doesn't miss a start. He plays through everything and he has better traits, better numbers. He's done it. He has everything you want C-Dub: I don't I Roc: in in in a in a star quarterback, in the franchise guy. C-Dub: This is this is sad. This is gross. This is disgusting. I don't like it. Not one bit. Not at all. Roc: I'm an honesty broker here, dub. I I put aside my fandom, put aside my homer. I love Dart. I want him to be the guy. But I think if we live in a fantasy world where trade deadline comes around and Herbert's maybe active for for being dealt, I wouldn't mind that. C-Dub: I I never even thought about this. I'm not gonna think about it. I don't wanna think about it. I mean I just don't understand why we'd give why we'd give up the guy. Roc: Give up the guy that hasn't made it through a full season in two years. C-Dub: Well Well the the i the injury Roc: What what what tell me. C-Dub: he ha the injury he had, it's not like he's a glass can he got boomed. His leg got boomed. I Roc: Yeah. And then last year, what the five games that he missed after he started? Five out of the eight weeks that he played? C-Dub: Some of them were just s rook rookie runs where he gets a concussion here and there. I I don't see it Roc: I love Dar I love everything about him. He has that it factor, but you're telling me you wouldn't want to take the quarterback that six six, two forty, that throws the ball eighty yards and doesn't miss a game? He hasn't missed a game. Plays through everything. He had a broken hand last year playing through it. And he's never had an offensive line. He's never had a C-Dub: You And you think Roc: real wide receiver one. C-Dub: you think if Dart didn't Dart didn't have those injuries he would play, he was trying to play through the leg. I I I just I just think it'd be a slap in the face from the Giants organization to get rid of Dart right now. It'd be a slap in the face to me. Roc: not saying I'm not saying it's not, but you know, it's it's a business at the end of the day and C-Dub: You might be happy, I'd be sad. I'd be sad. Roc: I'd love I I'd love to hear people's thoughts and I I I it's just a thought that I I had. It's a thought that I had after hearing Schefter talk about. C-Dub: no, no, and we're allowed we're allowed to think, but I'm not gonna think. Roc: Okay, that's fair. Next game we got. C-Dub: Crazy. Now I I'm all out of fucking whack now. I'm all I'm I'm dis that discombobulated me. No, you did. Roc: Next Hey, dub, I told you it was hot. I told you it was hot. C-Dub: You did. I I just didn't see any of this. And I I get maybe they're sellers, but giving up Dart for that's just it hurts my heart. Roc: Next game we got Bears at Falcons. Bears favored by two and a half with a overunder of fifty and a half. I think this could be a really fun game. C-Dub: I literally had sneaky good under my notes. A sneaky good game. 'cause Roc: But I'm assuming that Caleb Williams is gonna be back though. C-Dub: I would assume that as well. 'Cause I think if Beijing plays this game's a pick'em. Roc: I think if Bajent plays, I love Falcons, honestly. From what I saw last week, he's not a starting quarterback in the league. He was just missing guys, but I don't even know C-Dub: No, not at all. Roc: if I don't know if Bajant would be starting. Honestly. I think he might he might go to case. C-Dub: I I well the only reason I s the only reason I say that is because Ben Johnson's been really sneaky about in all his press conferences about who's starting. He has like he got asked Roc: Yeah. C-Dub: I think he said we have three guys who can play football. So it's sneaky there. I mean I would start k I would start case. But I'm st I'm gonna call back to our one of our first pods. I still think that Caleb Caleb should be suspended for a couple more games with how he reacted to his injury. that's neither here nor there. Th the thing is I'm scared to do a pick'em here because we don't have a starting quarterback from the Bears. if if Caleb's Roc: Or C-Dub: in Roc: or the Falcons, yeah, technically. I mean I think Pennick should be good to go, but I don't I I C-Dub: I guess. I I was assuming yes. Roc: yeah. I I don't know. I'm assuming that Caleb Caleb's gonna play because he returned to practice this week and he changed his Instagram bio and profile pick to John Wick, saying that he's back. And C-Dub: Now see now see that's one of those things where if I'm a Bears fan, I'm eating that shit up. If if I'm me, that's performative as hell. It's the same thing I I said w Roc: Formula, yeah. C-Dub: with with what's his name? JJ under the goalpost. I love it now. But Roc: Yeah, but the meditation. C-Dub: if I but if I'm a if I'm a Browns fan, I'm eating that shit up. So performative. I I like the guy, and I have him in all my fantasy leagues. So I'd like to see him back. I think but moving on from that, I think I think the Bears. The Bears cover this if Caleb plays. I'm not sure what the spread lands at there, if Caleb does. Maybe like might be a four and a half point game. Five and a half? I don't know. Roc: Yeah. I I if Caleb plays I like the Bears, if he doesn't play I like the Falcons. simple as that, honestly. I still think the Bears are a really good squad, but from what I saw from Beijing last week was really, really ugly football. And the Falcons offense has still been playing really well besides the the the patty melt that Tua threw against the Ravens. Yeah. C-Dub: The cameo? The little cameo, the little sh little the little thing he did there? Yeah. that was awesome. Roc: We got a sneaky battle of running the rock in this game. Chicago ranks first in NFL and rush rush offense and Atlanta ranks second. Did you know that, Dub? C-Dub: Is Manungai back? Roc: I don't know. See he he has turf toe, they said, or maybe has turf toe and it sounds like it's a nothing injury, but turf toe actually sucks. Like it's not even I hate the name of it because they call it turf toe and it's like, dude, anyone could play on it, but then it's really your entire foot is like hanging and it's like broken and and C-Dub: Just mangled. Yeah. Roc: you have no feel. So hopefully he is playing 'cause he he brings some juice to that offense. So C-Dub: He does. I hope so too. It'll be a good it'll be a good rushing it rushing game. yeah, no, but I still have bears. I have bears. Roc: If Williams plays, I have Bears. If if he doesn't C-Dub: Pending pending Williams. Roc: yeah, if he doesn't I have Falcons, but I do love the over either way. I'll say that at fifty and a half right now. Indoors, C-Dub: Yes. Yeah. Roc: Adalanta in a dome. I think both offenses will be able to move the ball and I think it will be a fun game. Sneaky fun game. C-Dub: Sneaky fun. Sticky. Roc: S dub, did you wanna touch on this next game? The the Jets or no? Is that official yet or no? C-Dub: I've I've been bouncing back and forth. We'll keep moving. We'll keep moving. Roc: Okay. Keep it we're gonna keep it moving. C-Dub: I told Rock I was thinking of some dogs and they were on my list. We're gonna keep it. Roc: We'll keep it rolling. We move on to the four o'clock slate for Sunday. We got the Cardinals at the Rams. LA favored by twelve and a half with an overunder of fifty one and a half. Arizona enters one and four. Los Angeles enters two and three. C-Dub: Can I be honest, Rocco? Roc: Yeah. C-Dub: This is my game where I will not pay attention to it until the fourth if it's close. Roc: I like that. I like that. C-Dub: That's my take on this game. I mean, this is a game where Rams should handle business. Again, twelve and a half points is a lot, but we just saw what their offense is able to do against the Bills. granted the Bills don't have the greatest defense, the greatest secondary, but I th I still think the Rams should just dominate here. What are your thoughts? Roc: Yeah, so I had I had a question first. Is this a must win for the Rams this early in the year? Is I I don't see I don't see a world where they do stumble 'cause the Cardinals aren't a good team. At home in LA they they should do the job, but is this a must win for LA? C-Dub: I I I wanna say yes, but I looked at their schedule recently coming up and they've got some they've got some layups coming down the stretch in the immediate future. this th this is I would I would label this as a must win 'cause as in their division, where they got the the Niners, if they wanna have a chance at the division, get home field, they have to kinda start winning some games out here. Roc: Yeah. I have a few few Ram stats for you, dub. C-Dub: No, give it to me. Give it to Roc: Okay. It might be a it might be a lot, but I'll I'll just go through by through. So C-Dub: Rattle. Rattle mouth. Roc: why I asked is this a must win for them? So they're two and three. This is the fourth time in five years that McVay's been under five hundred through the first five weeks with the Rams. So that looks like it's a trend. This is four times the last five years that they've started off pretty bad. C-Dub: Yeah, I would agree. Roc: playoff implications. Historically, only twenty-two point six percent of teams that have started off two and three have reached the playoffs since nineteen ninety. That C-Dub: I that's a crazy stat. Roc: seems really that seems really low. That seems really really C-Dub: Yeah, especially with the parody. Roc: low. Yeah. And we talked about the the offensive output that the Rams put on last week against the Bills. Stafford went crazy, damn near four hundred yards, three hundred eighty yards, three touchdowns. Puka seventeen for 140. The Rams had five four hundred and fifty-four yards of offense and won the turnover battle by two against Buffalo and still lost. Before that loss, home teams were seventy eight and three over the previous ten seasons when the those numbers in those turnover battles. C-Dub: Yeah. Ooh. Roc: What how what what's going on? C-Dub: I don't know. I think they just ran into Josh Allen putting the cape on with that last one. Roc: Are they snake bit right now? C-Dub: I don't think they're snake bit. I think it's I I I think it's too early. I mean, you talked about McVay's slow starts. Roc: 'Cause they've had a few games. C-Dub: Th When like this is a game where they take care of business, they're three and three, and we don't have these conversations anymore. And we just chalk it up to a slow Roc: Yeah. I agree. C-Dub: start, you know? Roc: I agree. I agree. So I with that being C-Dub: I think this is kinda how the NFL goes. Roc: said. With that being said, I'm taking the Rams. I think they're gonna put C-Dub: Do they cover? Roc: a number up. I think they're good for two touchdown win. After watching the Lions go into Arizona and win by twenty four, I think the Rams are a little bit better than the Lions defensively and just as good C-Dub: I would agree. Roc: offensively. So I'm I don't mind the twelve and a half points. C-Dub: Yeah. Now I'll be locked in in the fourth if it's close, but Roc: Maybe get a little backdoor Jay Brizzy cover from Jacoby Brissett. C-Dub: You know he's you he's you know he's good for that, that last one a touchdown. You know he's always good. Roc: Yeah, he is. Next game that I had was the Sunday night football primetime Cowboys at Packers. C-Dub: Can I cut you off real quick, Rock? Roc: Yeah. C-Dub: My dog. I've got this is not a big spread and I like picking big spreads, but I've got the Steelers covering two and a half against the Bucks. Roc: Okay. Okay. C-Dub: That's my dog. This game is an unpredictable one, I feel, with Jalen having a good game. And I'm not sure if there's enough tape out there on him yet, but I still have the Stewers regardless. Their offense has been Roc: Mm-hmm. C-Dub: cup been humming. Warren's playing good. Their offense seemed to click last last week. I mean, I don't have much else to say. I think the Steelers win handily here. I know we didn't note this game. I just had them as my dog. I don't really have any other stats to back that up. I just think the spread being at two and a half right now is I'm taking Roc: Wait, are you taking the the box stub? C-Dub: the Steelers. Roc: Steelers are three point favorites. C-Dub: Yeah, that's yeah, no wait, shit, they are? I had it wrong. I had it wrong. I had it wrong. Yo, let's cut this segment. Cut the segment. Cut the segment. Nah, not leave it. Shit. Roc: Yeah. I was I was a little I was a little confused. I was Leave it. Leave it. I was looking through my notes. I was like what I was like C-Dub: I had shit, I had it on the wrong side. That's my bad there. Alright. Roc: No, no, you straight, you straight. C-Dub: Alright. Well th well that's like my I I'm definitely throwing coin on on the Steelers then. Roc: Yeah. C-Dub: I'll go I'll go back to the one we talked about then. Roc: Throw it down J E T Who wanna fly? Who wanna fly C-Dub: Taking the JETS! let me see what I had. Dog, Roc: with a jet? C-Dub: even though I'm high on the Pats and they're going into Foxboro, I think seven and a half is high for a division game. Were they able to eat out a win in ugly in an ugly match? I think that is a morale booster. And we've had a good Patriots, Patriots team for two weeks. Let's see if it holds up. That's just all I. Roc: I like it. my my C-Dub: I'm taking Jets to cover at seven and a half right now. Apologies about the last pick. Roc: My two my two cents on that, you know, I've been high on the Jets this whole year and I I like the play. It's just the Patriots have been very, very, very good these last two weeks, so I'm afraid they might continue it. C-Dub: After after how after how they were playing. I'm I'm I just want to see more a bigger sample size from them, but I'm taking the justi just to come. Roc: I love it. Love it. C-Dub: And I'm probably gonna cut that segment out of me t me talking out of my ass where I thought the the Steelers were an underdog, but I like the Steelers and that Steelers talk. Roc: Yeah. C-Dub: Maybe I'll keep I'm just gonna keep it in, I don't wanna edit that, but yeah. I Roc: Last game from our slates before the Monday night, which we'll talk about next pod, is the Cowboys at the Packers. Packers favored by one and a half with an overunder of fifty-three and a half. It's a pretty high over under, dub. C-Dub: It is a pretty high over under. I and I had this in my notes that blow top off game question mark. we saw the Packers just put BTA on the Bears. I know that was personal for them. And the way they're the way Jordan loves Sling and Rock, I expect it to continue. And the Cowboys are the Cowboys. We talk about it every week. I I mean, that's a high spread regardless. I'm still not sure I'm gonna take it. I do like points, points, points. I might ult it down a little bit 'cause I do want to root for offense here. But I think the spread's more interesting if the Packers won Favored by a a one and a half. Roc: Damn here, pick him. C-Dub: Damn near pick I mean, I don't understand why it's so close. Especially after how the Cowboys have been playing. I would take the Pac I'm taking the Packers. Roc: Yeah, I don't know. I thought the spread was a little close considering I don't know, Packers coming off huge momentum win against the Bears. Dallas coming off a huge momentum loss against the Bucks, but the way I see it, that game against the Bucs was Thursday night football, so they have extra rest, whole week and a week and a half to prep and get right, get their bodies feel a little bit better. So I think that's probably why the spread's so close. And I kinda I I agree with you. I would halt it down a little bit, maybe to like forty nine and a half, fifty and a half. But I kind of love the over in this game. W so a few a few crazy stats here. The Packers have averaged thirty seven points per game in their last six meetings with Dallas. And the last time these two teams met was last year in a forty to forty tie. So that over under would have slammed by about a good thirty points on top of that. C-Dub: Yeah. and again I would be interested to see what other team stats are against the Cowboys in their last six meetings, 'cause it's probably pretty high. Roc: Yeah. C-Dub: So I think it's a safe bet to go over or around the over, you know? It's probably safe. Roc: Yeah. I like the over a lot in this. That's that's probably like my my go-to play in it. But my pick I'm gonna go with the Cowboys in this one. I think the extra I think the extra rest will will help them a lot and I think they're gonna be coming off that game. Assuming that C D's gonna be healthy, I know he he didn't play the fourth quarter last week with the quad. If they're they're full go and they have C D pickings, Ferguson, C-Dub: Mm-hmm. Roc: Jay Will, I I'm going with Dallas. I I I still the Packers O line is really, really bad. So granted Dallas' defense sucks, but C-Dub: Yeah, as I say, d Dallas you're just giving Roc: Then C-Dub: a they did they did a week and then he needed J Jesus, Mary and Joseph. Roc: They might they might they might they might get they might be C-Dub: To to to prep with their defense. Roc: able to get a little they might be able be able to get a little bit of pressure. So I I'm taking I'm taking Dallas with the extra rest. It's a we it's a it's a weird pick, but I don't know. Got feeling that Dallas C-Dub: Ooh, okay. Hey, no no, good. Do it. Roc: Dallas comes away with this one. C-Dub: Yeah, shit. Yeah, good stuff. And those are the games that we found interesting from this week. We're trying to keep our episodes shorter. under an hour. If you guys want more game analysis, let us know. we can definitely pump out more content here. But we just want to keep keep it short and sweet for the listeners out there. But we're gonna wrap this up with a game. A game that I'm coming with off the dome. Rock and I had a little pause there and I gave him an idea and Roc: Love it. C-Dub: we're gonna run with it. So I'm following all of the sports accounts. Fox, CBS, all of them out there, ESPN. And all you see in the middle of the week are QB power rankings. And you're you're fighting for those top guys, you're seeing who's there. I have a new I have a new game. it's the QB mid rankings. Roc: Love this. C-Dub: What are QVs that are doing enough to win games but aren't aren't that good? And we're gonna do this off the Roc: I love this. C-Dub: dome, because I just thoug we we're just thinking out loud. So Rock, you wanna lead it off? Let's go, let's just go. Roc: No notes. No notes. Middle of pack. C-Dub: Let's go let's get four. We'll do ranks fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, and seventeen. Roc: Fourteen, fifteen, sixteen and seventeen. All right. At the fourteen C-Dub: For quarterbacks. Roc: spot. At the fourteen spot. Give me give me Kirk Cousins. I think he's solid. I think he's solid. C-Dub: That's great take. He's top that's and that's top that's that's better half of the league. That's better half. Roc: Top top mid. Based on this year, he's how he he's been balling. That's that's top mid. C-Dub: No, he has. That is top med. That is top med. I got I got can I can I give an idea for f for fifteen? Roc: Yeah. C-Dub: Sam Darnold. Roc: I don't hate that. I d C-Dub: Sam Darnold. Roc: I don't hate that. It's kind of disrespectful just because he went to the Super Bowl and won the Super Bowl and he C-Dub: Yeah, but Roc: he put up numbers in that NFC championship game. I don't hate that. I'll one up you dub. C-Dub: And he was and he was stagnant against against the the friggin' forty niners. He d he didn't do anything special. He was just the who's he was J Jesus, Mary and Joseph down there praying for JSN to appear. Roc: I wanna I'll I'll I'll one up you dub here. C-Dub: Won't help me. Roc: So you did Darnold at fifteen. Give me Jalen Hurts at sixteen. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Again, I'm just C-Dub: That's that's Roc: a I'm just a guy that watches ball and watches tape. I let me tell you, he balls out in the Super Bowl and when it's against Patrick Mahomes and all he does is win games. But any other time it's an ugly, ugly win, and he has to rely on the best offensive line and Saquon Barkley in the best run game. So give me Jalen Hurts at sixteen. C-Dub: sixteen. I was gonna put another guy at sixteen and we can bounce back and forth off this. What about Aaron Rodgers? Roc: He had another three touchdown performance. C-Dub: I know. After a stinker, I mean put him right in the middle. What do you do? I feel like most Roc: I would say he's back half back half of mid right now for hit this point of his career. But like I'd have him behind Jalen Hurts and Sam Darnold in my opinion. Se I I don't mind him as sixteen seventy. That's not a bad that's not a bad spot. C-Dub: You think so? You think so? Okay. That's fair. We'll put him at sixteen we'll put we can put at sixteen with with Hertz. We can put sitting there and Roc: Okay, all right. So we got we got fourteen cousins, fifteen, Darnold, sixteen, Hertz and Rogers, seventeen C-Dub: It's a tie, it's a tie. Roc: seventeen and eighteen. Let's finish off these last two. Seventeen C-Dub: Let's do it. Roc: and eighteen. Worse than Rogers right now this year. But better than some of the the bad QB play. C-Dub: I got an idea. I got an idea. Roc: Yeah. C-Dub: Hear me out. Kyler Murray. Roc: I think it's just I like the idea of Kyler more than what his actual production has been. Because in my mind I'm like, dude, I'd rather have Kyler than Kirk. And I'd rather have Kyler than like Rogers or Darnold. But I really shouldn't you really I really shouldn't. I C-Dub: Y you guess. Yeah you shouldn't. You shouldn't. You really shouldn't. Roc: I I shouldn't. So I I don't hate that. I like him at seventeen. C-Dub: I had another idea too. Roc: Yeah. C-Dub: Jane Daniels. Roc: Ooh, that's that's slander. I don't like that. C-Dub: Where where would you put then? Roc: I'd I'd rather I'd have him over the guys that we listed already. Maybe he's not C-Dub: You would? Roc: Yes, I would. He's a I I think he's a stud. When he's healthy, I think he's a stud. C-Dub: I think so too, but he has he hasn't been healthy too much and the last game I mean granted he he ran he r he ran he ran the rock but didn't come out of the win. Roc: I I I don't like that slander for for Daniels. I think he's I think he's a beast, honestly. C-Dub: Then then who would you put there? Who would you put there? Roc: I don't mind the Kyler at seventeen. I Like right now, even though I I I love this guy, you can put Bo Nicks there. Right C-Dub: You could put bone next there. Roc: now he's he's just been he's just been mid right now. I really don't wanna have to do it. C-Dub: 'Cause to me I'm putting them way lower. I'm putting way lower. But Roc: I'd say I'd say bone next and then on my eighteenth spot. Is this too high C-Dub: Tell me. Roc: for Deshaun Watson? C-Dub: Maybe a little bit. Maybe a little bit. Way too high. Danny J. Roc: It's it's way too high. Way too high. Give me Daniel Jones. Give me Daniel Jones. That's a better spot, I think. I think Daniel Jones is a better spot at eighteen, honestly. C-Dub: Yeah, that's fair. That's good that no no I I like that. I'm trying to think of my eighteen. 'Cause a lot of these guys I wanna say guys that their team's not doing well, but they're might be doing okay. Which is slanderous. Roc: Yeah. C-Dub: fuck. Eighteen. Eighteen's a tough one. 'Cause it's too far away from sixteen to call in the middle of the pack, you know? Roc: I know, I know. C-Dub: man. No fuck it. Give me give me Drake May. Give me Drake May. Give me Drake May an eighteen. He's had two good games and he's he's Roc: That that one might catch some people, I can't lie. C-Dub: at two he's had two good games and he's moving up the rankings, but are we gonna forget the first three weeks? Are we gonna do that? Should we? 'Cause it's been Roc: Yeah. Yeah. But do you value any of his play last year? C-Dub: I guess you do. But it's a w hey, we say this all the time week to week league. Week to week league. Roc: It's a tough one. That's a tough one. Hey, it's your it's your pick. Yes, yes. It's w what have you done for me lately? And I I love that, dub. You go with what your heart's telling you, you go C-Dub: Exactly. And that's what rankings are. That's why that's why we do this. Roc: with what your brain's telling you. So, ladies and gentlemen, that's our QB mid rankings. I hope you guys enjoyed that a little bit. Maybe some of you guys didn't enjoy that if we threw your co quarterback in the mid tier. But If you guys made it to this far in the episode, please let us know. Please let us know your C-Dub: Probably not. Roc: thoughts about our QB mid mid tier rankings. We got a few Super Bowl few Super Bowl C-Dub: Maybe maybe we You know what, Rocky? Roc: winning quarterbacks in there. Few VP vote getters in there, few former VPs. C-Dub: Maybe you know what? If we have a shorter episode, I might just say let's rank 20 through 25 and let's have fun with that. You know, because that I had a lot of fun doing that. I had a lot of fun. Roc: I don't mind I don't mind that. Yeah. C-Dub: that was good. That was good stuff. Alrighty. Well that about does wrap it up. Roc: But that wraps up our Thursday Thursday pod, our previews for the games this week and our mid QB rankings. Hopefully you guys enjoyed if you made it this far. The support, thank you for all the support. We love you guys, honestly. Like any time, C-Dub: Yes, no. Roc: any engagement that we get, where you guys are loving loving the the takes or hating the takes, loving our bets, hating our bets. Thank you. Thank you for everything. Thank you for listening and C-Dub: No, no for sure. Roc: We'll see you guys on on Tuesday morning. C-Dub: Sounds good. All right. See you guys.