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The Kenny Report | 27 May · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Lona from the Skying New Center.
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Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to another week on the Kenny Report. Tonight with
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Speaker 1: an ugly attack on a Jewish school, I'll look at
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Speaker 1: how a lack of political leadership has only encouraged anti
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Speaker 1: semitism in this country. Anthony Albernezi winges about the media
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Speaker 1: while the ABC uses your tax dollars to double down
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Speaker 1: on its green left bias. Also the budget, remember that,
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Speaker 1: why has it dropped off the agenda already? And I'll
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Speaker 1: be joined by Paul Murray, Gematon Uni, Caroline Derusso and
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Speaker 1: Sophie Ellsworth, So I better get started. Look, I'm sick
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Speaker 1: to death of politicians empathizing with problems, telling us how
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Speaker 1: much they care, instead of actually doing their job, and
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Speaker 1: that is fixing the problems and showing some leadership. I've
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Speaker 1: been warning about anti semitism on this program since Monday,
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Speaker 1: October the ninth last year. The sickening rise of anti
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Speaker 1: Semitism in this country has reached such a level that
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Speaker 1: Jewish Australian school kids in Melbourne have had this vile
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Speaker 1: and violent slogan smeared across their school, a place that's
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Speaker 1: supposed to be a safe haven of friendship and learning.
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Speaker 3: It's acceptable to have hatred being used as a way
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Speaker 3: of terrorizing school children. This school was set up seventy
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Speaker 3: five years ago by Holocaust survivors and their intention was
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Speaker 3: to create a school that was safe for Jewish people.
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Speaker 3: And unfortunately that's as true now as it was seventy
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Speaker 3: five years ago.
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Speaker 1: What a trauma for the Jewish Australian community and what
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Speaker 1: a tragedy for our nation that we're seeing bigotry, hate
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Speaker 1: and intimidation at this level. And so we get the
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Speaker 1: federal government wringing its hands, the Deputy Prime Minister to
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Speaker 1: turning up at Mount Scopus campus today.
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Speaker 4: The sorts of words that we saw written on the
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Speaker 4: walls of this school have no place in our society
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Speaker 4: and it is critically important that at this moment the
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Speaker 4: nation stands up against this anti semitism, which is why
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Speaker 4: we are here today.
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Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, but isn't that the least the government
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Speaker 1: could say? What's it done? The lack of leadership, the
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Speaker 1: spinelessness started way back in October when we saw this
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Speaker 1: at the Opera House. None of those Opera House protesters
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Speaker 1: was arrested. Police made no attempt to shut down or
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Speaker 1: divert that ugly protest that was glorifying a terrorist attack
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Speaker 1: and urge an armed uprising against Israel. In fact, police
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Speaker 1: facilitated this effort to overrun a commemoration of the victims,
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Speaker 1: the display of the Israeli flag on the sales of
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Speaker 1: the Opera House. The police guided the protesters to the
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Speaker 1: Opera House and the only people they man handled and
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Speaker 1: diverted were two people with Israeli flags. What a disgrace
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Speaker 1: and where was the federal government? Then? It did nothing,
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Speaker 1: It didn't speak with any strength either. The police let
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Speaker 1: us down, and so did the federal government. And on
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Speaker 1: a Sydney street we saw a disgusting celebration of the
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Speaker 1: slaughter of twelve hundred innocent Israelis.
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Speaker 5: I'm slightly, I'm smiling, and I'm happy.
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Speaker 1: I'm in.
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Speaker 5: That's a day of courage.
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Speaker 1: Just unspeakable, Isn't it just intolerable? That is hate speech.
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Speaker 1: But there were no arrests, there was no police action,
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Speaker 1: and neither did we see strong and direct condemnation from
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Speaker 1: the Prime Minister or others in the government. This set
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Speaker 1: the tone early. All the government did was give us
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Speaker 1: merely mouthed opposition to antisemitism, usually mentioning some imaginary upsurge
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Speaker 1: of Islamophobia at the same time so they could appear
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Speaker 1: to be even handed or something. We saw immediate and
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Speaker 1: clear hatred directed at Jewish people and the state of Israel,
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Speaker 1: and our federal government did nothing, and so it's grown now.
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Speaker 1: Day by day, we saw anti Israel protesters surge into
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Speaker 1: Jewish areas of Sydney and Melbourne to intimidate Jewish Australians,
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Speaker 1: and again the authorities and politicians did nothing. And we've
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Speaker 1: seen encampments at our universities preaching hate, supporting Hamas, chanting
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Speaker 1: for inter fada and the elimination of Israel. And still
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Speaker 1: the politicians have done nothing. The federal government has been
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Speaker 1: complicit in its cowardice. We've even had university protesters openly
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Speaker 1: support the listed terrorist organization of Humas, a group that
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Speaker 1: murders men, women and children and is still holding one
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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty four hostages.
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Speaker 6: Humas deserve our unconditional support, not because they agree with
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Speaker 6: their strategy.
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Speaker 1: You can't condemn what Hamas did in October. I will
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Speaker 1: not condemn what Hamas did.
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Speaker 6: We must be unconditional, but we must be critical also.
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Speaker 1: And again our authorities and politicians did nothing. So forgive
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Speaker 1: me if I don't applaud the Deputy Prime Minister for
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Speaker 1: condemning anti Semitism today. He's been missing in action for
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Speaker 1: seven months. Anthony Albanzi and the Federal Labor government are
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Speaker 1: culpable for what we are seeing. They've been weak. They've
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Speaker 1: spent more time attacking Israel than they have condemning Hummas.
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Speaker 1: They've been lily lived in calling out the anti Semitism
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Speaker 1: at home, desperate not to lose votes from Muslim communities
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Speaker 1: or from the hard left. They've sacrificed our national interest
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Speaker 1: and our national cohesion and the peace of mind of
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Speaker 1: Jewish Australians for base political expedients. This is weak, this
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Speaker 1: is wrong, and this is dangerous and the Prime Minister
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Speaker 1: needs to correct it and fast. Just on the war
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Speaker 1: in the Middle East, there has been more bloodshed with
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Speaker 1: an Israeli aerial bombardment on a Hummas target in the
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Speaker 1: southern Ghaza city of Rafa. Reports claim that thirty five
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Speaker 1: people were killed, and Hummas says most of them were civilians,
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Speaker 1: which is, of course what you'd expect Hummas to say.
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Speaker 1: Much of the media reports this stuff as fact. Of course, Still,
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Speaker 1: what is undeniable is that hostilities and deaths continue because
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Speaker 1: the war rages on. And the point to make here
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Speaker 1: is what you don't hear much about from most of
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Speaker 1: the media, and that is before that attack on Rafa,
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Speaker 1: Hummas was escalating the war and continuing to imperil Palestinian
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Speaker 1: lives than the civilians as well. Hummas fired rockets north
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Speaker 1: towards Tel Aviv, once again seeking indiscriminately to kill Israeli
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Speaker 1: civilians and extend the war. Israeli rocket defenses managed to
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Speaker 1: shoot down most of these Hummas rockets, but this shows
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Speaker 1: exactly how the Death of Hummas operates. They can't win
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Speaker 1: the war. They're not about winning. They're only interested in
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Speaker 1: maximizing the death toll on both sides, creating chaos and
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Speaker 1: inflaming outrage against Israel. Tragically, their tactics work. Their atrocities
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Speaker 1: have been rewarded in the United Nations and elsewhere, including
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Speaker 1: in the response from our own government. But just think
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Speaker 1: about how much Hummus cares for the lives of Palestinians.
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Speaker 1: Hummas is hiding among them, drawing fire from Israel while
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Speaker 1: it launches rockets at Israeli civilian areas in order to
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Speaker 1: inflame a greater response and ensure even more Palestinian lives
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Speaker 1: are lost. It's obscene and it needs to be called
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Speaker 1: out and combated, not rewarded. Yet. Have a look at
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Speaker 1: how our own ABC reported this. Its coverage of the
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Speaker 1: rocket attacks said that they were quote a show of
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Speaker 1: resilience from Hummas, A show of resilience. Firing rockets at
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Speaker 1: Israeli cities hoping to kill more innocent civilians is a
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Speaker 1: show of resilience. You see. This is the problem. Hummas
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Speaker 1: commits atrocities leading to the deaths of thousands of Israelis
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Speaker 1: and Palestinians directly and indirectly and around the world. Leftist
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Speaker 1: activists want to give this terrorist organization and its tactics
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Speaker 1: some form of legitimacy. It's grotesque and it feeds on ignorance.
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Speaker 1: Anthony Albanezi is really starting to feel the heat as
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Speaker 1: Prime Minister. He's struggling in the polls, he's lucking confidence
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Speaker 1: and authority, and he's often talking gibberish. And there's one
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Speaker 1: tell tale sign that the pressure is getting to a politic,
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Speaker 1: and that's when they start lashing out at the media,
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Speaker 1: and yes, Elbows had a winge about the media.
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Speaker 7: There are some journalists who are more stenographers in particular
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Speaker 7: the right wing media, than actual journalists. There are cheers squad.
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Speaker 1: Poor old Albert Okay, there he is having a wine
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Speaker 1: with my cousin Mark on an Australian National University podcast.
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Speaker 1: Apparently some media don't buy Labour's spin. How unfair. Some media,
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Speaker 1: like most of the opinion crew here at Sky, actually
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Speaker 1: think that big government and endless leftist interventions are bad
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Speaker 1: for the country. Some of them, horror of horrors, even
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Speaker 1: praise Peter Dutton.
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Speaker 7: Some of the transcripts that you read from Peter Dutton
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Speaker 7: essentially is him just saying, yes, I agree with particular
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Speaker 7: radio commentators or TV commentators and I think that is unfortunate.
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Speaker 1: Unfortunate indeed, isn't it, Prime Minister. He wants all of
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Speaker 1: the media to demonize Peter Dutton. But the reason this
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Speaker 1: is particularly amusing, and the reason it's actually quite pathetic,
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Speaker 1: is because the vast bulk of the Canberra press gallery
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Speaker 1: leaned to the Green left, as you know, and they
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Speaker 1: give Labor a rails run. And the public broadcasters, who
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Speaker 1: take one point five billion dollars a year from taxpayers
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Speaker 1: under laws that commit them to objective coverage of national affairs. Well,
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Speaker 1: they actually flaunt the law and run publicly funded propaganda
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Speaker 1: for the Green Left. I mean, have a listen to
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Speaker 1: how the ABC's main federal politics reporter reacted to Peter
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Speaker 1: Dutton's budget reply speech.
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Speaker 8: It's basically sort of appealing to all of those real,
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Speaker 8: sort of white hot, very simple ideas of we can't
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Speaker 8: get enough houses, it's all migrations fall. I think that
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Speaker 8: sort of sets us up for some pretty ugly politics
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Speaker 8: which doesn't require much rational, detailed policy. It's really appealing
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Speaker 8: to people's sort of anger about things, and I think
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Speaker 8: it's not going to sort of be an attractive argument
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Speaker 8: to have because it's sort of really escalating that sense
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Speaker 8: that it's all migrants fault.
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Speaker 1: Is that really what Dutton said or is she just
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Speaker 1: making stuff up, making up divisive nonsense. This stuff is
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Speaker 1: extraordinary and it's indefensible. Labour promises to cut immigration and
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Speaker 1: it's a legitimate policy choice, but when the Coalition makes
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Speaker 1: a similar pledge, it's racist or xenophobic at the very least.
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Speaker 1: Laura Tingle also happens to be the staff representative on
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Speaker 1: the ABC board, and her disdain from mainstream Australians was
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Speaker 1: on display last week at the Sydney Writers Festival, the night.
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Speaker 9: Of Pedodun's addressed in reply to the budget. I was
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Speaker 9: sitting there with this terrible kill running through me, thinking, Okay,
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Speaker 9: we're back into this territory for a major political leader
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Speaker 9: to be saying, as Nikki says, you know, everything that's
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Speaker 9: going wrong in this country is because of migrants. And
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Speaker 9: you know, I had a sudden flash of people turning
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Speaker 9: up to try to rent a property or at an auction,
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Speaker 9: and they look a bit different whatever you defined different
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Speaker 9: as that. Basically, he has given them license to.
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Speaker 1: Be abused.
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Speaker 9: In any circumstance where people feel like they're missing out.
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Speaker 9: I mean, we are a racist country, let's face it.
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Speaker 9: We always have been, and it's very depressing. But to
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Speaker 9: give license like that I find profoundly depressing and a
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Speaker 9: terrible prospect for the next election.
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Speaker 1: This journalist has paid a lot of money, your tax dollars.
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Speaker 1: Clearly she has no quibbles about accepting a paycheck from
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Speaker 1: the people she says are racist. Hey a bucks, a bucket,
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Speaker 1: and in exchange for that money, she's supposed to report
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Speaker 1: objectively and impartially on federal politics. It's laughable, isn't it?
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Speaker 1: And she's the staff voice on the ABC board. Nobody
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Speaker 1: seems to be in charge at the ABC, but it
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Speaker 1: gets worse. For more than thirty years, prominent leftist agitator
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Speaker 1: Philip Adams has hosted a nightly program on ABC's Radio National. Now.
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Speaker 1: Adams is an advertising guru, filmmaker, ALP activists and columnists,
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Speaker 1: and he's always been openly and robustly green left. Yet somehow,
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Speaker 1: despite the ABC's rules about impartiality, he's been able to
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Speaker 1: run countless hours of radio pushing his politically left views,
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Speaker 1: with Laura Tingle actually as one of his regular guests.
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Speaker 1: This has always prompted the question about where a right
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Speaker 1: of center host might be found at the ABC. If
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Speaker 1: they can have Adams as a host from the left,
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Speaker 1: why not a conservative. The ABC has never been able
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Speaker 1: to answer that simple question, And now, with Adams retiring
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Speaker 1: at last, the ABC has announced his replacement, and surprise, surprise,
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Speaker 1: it's not a conservative, not even a centrist, but it's
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Speaker 1: another long standing green left activist, David ma Here's some
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Speaker 1: of his previous work.
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Speaker 10: So the Tony Abbott of today is not getting himself
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Speaker 10: to power by convincing the Australian people that there's a
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Speaker 10: transformative agenda or even a crucial agenda ahead that he
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Speaker 10: can be trusted to carry out. He's getting there.
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Speaker 11: I wrecking, which has been Hissmurdus operounding all his life,
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Speaker 11: his mo is wrecking. This is a level of viciousness
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Speaker 11: which I cannot believe this country supports. I cannot believe
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Speaker 11: this country is going to sit here with something like
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Speaker 11: fifteen or sixteen hundred people permanently imprisoned on Marnison Naru
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Speaker 11: because we're trying to find a country uncomfortable enough to
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Speaker 11: send them.
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Speaker 1: To think is digusting.
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Speaker 6: The members of the left that the Australian most despised,
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Speaker 6: of course, are the ones that have plumbing accents like mine.
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Speaker 6: Is there the really dangerous ones? You know, if you're
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Speaker 6: wearing a beret and you've got to be they can
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Speaker 6: see you coming. You are no danger to anybody bus
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Speaker 6: if at least the sort nerd I've got a clean
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Speaker 6: shirt on and talk like somebody who had bad training
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Speaker 6: at the BBC. As is when you're dangerous because you
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Speaker 6: can infield trains.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, once again, the joke is on us, the taxpayers.
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Speaker 1: Our tax dollars are being used to run leftist propaganda,
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Speaker 1: one thousand and five hundred million dollars worth of leftist
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Speaker 1: propaganda every year, and Albo's got the nerve to complain
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Speaker 1: about a handful of media critics. Please, Prime Minister, surely
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Speaker 1: you jested. And yet another example of the jew hatred
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Speaker 1: that's been building in this country, the Australian Jewish Association
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Speaker 1: has experienced an online anti Semitic ambush. The association was
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Speaker 1: hosting one of its regular online discussions with former Jeputy
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Speaker 1: Prime Minister John Anderson as the guest on this occasion,
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Speaker 1: discussing foreign policy issues. Activists logged onto the zoom meeting
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Speaker 1: and one of them, who had the camera off and
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Speaker 1: used the name Tony Abbott, whatt a laugh? Well he
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Speaker 1: just launched into.
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Speaker 5: Abuse, specificly mentioned religion and beliefs.
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Speaker 10: And ah, can you show your mouth?
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Speaker 4: The old stop lapping.
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Speaker 1: This one has to go. Can you stop yapping? Old?
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Speaker 4: He's a bunch ofsi on this munch of grubs, idiots, yappers.
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Speaker 1: Hang on, I'll just fix this up now. The association
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Speaker 1: says up to fifteen people were involved in the so
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Speaker 1: called zoom bombing, and it claims there are links to
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Speaker 1: Sydney University protesters. Some of the zoom bombers videotape themselves,
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Speaker 1: including one hiding behind a Palestinian scarf humus terrorist style.
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Speaker 1: The Australian Jewish Association has reported this disruption to police,
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Speaker 1: and I'm joined now by their CEO, Robert Gregory. Robert,
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Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. So tell us what action you
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Speaker 1: expect the police might be able to take in this case. Well,
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Speaker 1: we should be really clear.
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Speaker 12: This event was targeted because it was a Jewish community event.
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Speaker 12: It had nothing to do with Israel. We saw the
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Speaker 12: images of people dressed up in terrorist scarfs. It was
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Speaker 12: intended to intimidate the Jewish community and we've given a
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Speaker 12: statement to police. We hope they'll take action. We also
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Speaker 12: expect the University of Sydney should take action. We have
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Speaker 12: more information, we know who is behind this. They weren't
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Speaker 12: so intelligent. They filmed themselves and they also used their
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Speaker 12: full names and their phone numbers, so we know who
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Speaker 12: they are and we're hoping that discipline reaction, hopefully police
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Speaker 12: actually will be taken.
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Speaker 1: So you're obviously certain that they are connected to Sydney
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Speaker 1: University and the protests that are going on there.
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Speaker 12: Yes, we're certain, we have a lot of evidence and
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Speaker 12: we've also in some of the videos you can even
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Speaker 12: see they're doing this on the university campus, so most
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Speaker 12: likely using the university wi FI to carry this out.
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Speaker 1: So what action do you expect the university should take
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Speaker 1: against these activists.
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Speaker 12: Well, if the university's facilities are being used to as
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Speaker 12: the Jewish community, these students should be expelled. We believe
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Speaker 12: the university should have taken action long ago against the encampment.
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Speaker 12: And now not only are they a threat to Jewish
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Speaker 12: students and staff who are being intimidated, but they're now
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Speaker 12: a threat to the wider Jewish community. And we've got
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Speaker 12: Jewish communal events being interrupted by these zoom bombing attacks.
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Speaker 1: Now tell us about the broader issue of anti Semitism.
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Speaker 1: We talked to the top of the program about the graffiti,
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Speaker 1: the offensive graffiti at the Mount Scopist School in Melbourne.
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Speaker 1: Are we seeing a continuation of these sorts of activities,
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Speaker 1: this sort of humiliation, this sort of intimidation right across
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Speaker 1: the country.
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Speaker 12: Unfortunately we are, I mean since October seven, these statistics
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Speaker 12: are just off the charts, and we say it's a
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Speaker 12: failure of leadership. After the ninth of October at the
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Speaker 12: Opera House, the scenes we saw the government should have
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Speaker 12: taken strong action.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I said that at the top. I think they
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Speaker 1: should have. Now we saw the Deputy Prime Minister go
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Speaker 1: to Mount Scopus today, he's condemned this sort of anti semitism.
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Speaker 1: What more can he and Anthony Albert it needs he
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Speaker 1: do right now to try and retrieve the situation because
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Speaker 1: obviously it's been rampant around the country in the seven
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Speaker 1: months since October. Yeah.
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Speaker 12: Well, I mean what we're seeing today is quite frankly
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Speaker 12: too little, too late. What they should have done and
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Speaker 12: what they can still do is to rain in some
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Speaker 12: of this extremism. We know it's coming from some of
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Speaker 12: the radical imams, we know it's coming from some of
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Speaker 12: the far left activists. We need a strong messaging from
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Speaker 12: the government calling it out, not bringing in every single
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Speaker 12: time islamophobia, every time they mentioned what's actually going on,
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Speaker 12: which is a tax against Jews and anti Semitic incidents.
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Speaker 1: Well, there are hate preachers and we've shown some of
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Speaker 1: the hate preaching that goes on in the streets Australia.
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Speaker 1: What what Why aren't the law enforcement authorities tackling this.
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Speaker 1: It's against the law of pre hatred and violence.
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Speaker 12: That's the question on every Australian Jews mind. Why aren't
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Speaker 12: they taking action against these preachers? I mean, we believe
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Speaker 12: the laws are there. We don't think think new laws
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Speaker 12: are needed. We just think the existing laws need to
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Speaker 12: be enforced.
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Speaker 1: Ex Jordan. Yeah, thanks for joining us, Robert. I appreciate
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Speaker 1: Robert Gregory there from the Australian Jewish Association. Now I
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Speaker 1: want to get onto economic matters because there's two weeks
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Speaker 1: tomorrow actually since the budget was handed down. Remember that
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Speaker 1: there's tax cuts supposedly for everyone, energy rebates as well.
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Speaker 1: But it seems to have sunk without a trace. What's
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Speaker 1: going on here? Let me bring in Judith Sloan, the
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Speaker 1: contributing economics editor from the Australian newspaper. Thanks for joining
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Speaker 1: us from Melbourne. Judith has a surprised you a bit
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Speaker 1: the fact that the budget seems to have sunk without
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Speaker 1: a trace. I know parliament's resuming tomorrow, but there hasn't
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Speaker 1: been a hell of a salesmanship job around the country
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Speaker 1: or anything as there.
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Speaker 2: Well, I guess immediately after the budget, Jim and indeed
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Speaker 2: albit Easy had a bit of a go.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's actually a myth that governments
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Speaker 2: get to bounce out of the budget, even though I
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Speaker 2: think they tend to swallow that myth. But this one
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Speaker 2: sort of strikes me as a little bit different.
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Speaker 1: It sort of.
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Speaker 2: Seems to have vanished without trace, almost And my guess
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Speaker 2: is that if you know, I went down to the
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Speaker 2: bottom of this building and asked people to tell me
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Speaker 2: what was in the budget, they'd probably scratch their head.
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Speaker 1: I suppose. On the bright side for the government, though,
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Speaker 1: they'd be saying that come July, when the tax cuts
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Speaker 1: are filtering through the people's pay packets and the energy
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Speaker 1: rebate starts to kick in, then people might not might
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Speaker 1: notice the payola and be appreciative. I guess that's right.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think that is, you know, the proof
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Speaker 2: will be in the pudding, so to speak. And so
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Speaker 2: they probably are setting a lot of stool by the
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Speaker 2: modified Stage three tax cuts and the well, you know,
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Speaker 2: the universal energy rebate that I think was politically a mistake.
23:56
Speaker 2: I think that took a lot of oxygen from the
24:00
Speaker 2: budget messaging because you know, when you've got Andrew Chilton
24:03
Speaker 2: and Twiggy Forest getting the energy relate, it sort of
24:07
Speaker 2: seems a bit unfair. But leave that aside. I think
24:12
Speaker 2: the tax cuts they may have an impact. I mean,
24:16
Speaker 2: the real fear here Chris is though that the economy
24:20
Speaker 2: is still operating too close to full capacity and that
24:24
Speaker 2: those tax cuts might be just the thing that either
24:30
Speaker 2: sets off some sort of resurgence in inflation or stalls
24:36
Speaker 2: it from coming down. And as a result, the Reserve
24:40
Speaker 2: Bank's decision to cut the rate and cut mortgage rates
24:44
Speaker 2: that may be delayed. Really, I feel that the government
24:47
Speaker 2: strategy is very much dependent on mortgage rates coming down
24:52
Speaker 2: towards the end of this year and next year and
24:54
Speaker 2: then they go into the election. If that doesn't happen,
24:57
Speaker 2: that I think it's a different ballgame. The balancing act
25:01
Speaker 2: at the moment is that the economy and the labor
25:04
Speaker 2: market's still very tight and so the Reserve Bank.
25:08
Speaker 1: Will be watching that.
25:09
Speaker 2: And we see this with there are some sort of
25:11
Speaker 2: quite big generous pay increases up in Queensland, for example
25:17
Speaker 2: here in Melbourne, and that will I think bear on
25:19
Speaker 2: the thinking of the Reserve Bank.
25:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be fascinating to watch. As you say,
25:26
Speaker 1: we won't really know until we see the behavior when
25:29
Speaker 1: the tax cuts and other measures flow through. But at
25:32
Speaker 1: the same time we've got a Queensland state government throwing
25:34
Speaker 1: money around willy nilly with energy rebates and the free
25:39
Speaker 1: public or next to free public transport and the like.
25:42
Speaker 1: So it's hard to think that what we're seeing is
25:44
Speaker 1: not inflationary. And as you say, there must be a
25:46
Speaker 1: fear that that could upset the whole plan of Labour's
25:50
Speaker 1: re election strategy based on inflation and interest rates going down. Well,
25:57
Speaker 1: that's right.
25:58
Speaker 2: I mean, the thing is that we don't expect state
26:00
Speaker 2: governments to be conducting macroeconomic policy, by the way, that's
26:04
Speaker 2: a complete no no.
26:05
Speaker 1: But in effect they.
26:06
Speaker 2: Are because by bringing in those kinds of subsidies, the
26:11
Speaker 2: public transport subsidies, what they're doing is effectively adding to
26:14
Speaker 2: aggurgate demand up there, and that's an issue that's a
26:18
Speaker 2: you know, Queensland is a sort of swing state, has
26:20
Speaker 2: had rapid population growth and so you know that actually
26:25
Speaker 2: feeds into the national economic outlook. And of course it's
26:28
Speaker 2: not the only state government they're sort of interested in
26:30
Speaker 2: this stuff. The Victorian government blessed their little heart even
26:35
Speaker 2: though they're broke. You know, they were handing out four
26:37
Speaker 2: hundred dollars for the children. That's right, and you know
26:40
Speaker 2: there are other bits and pieces too.
26:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, great stuff. Thanks for joining us, Judith, I appreciate it.
26:45
Speaker 1: Judith sloan there on the balancing act that labour's looking
26:48
Speaker 1: at and what we can expect to see as the
26:51
Speaker 1: months unfold through the end of the year. I'm going
26:54
Speaker 1: to take a break on the other side of We're
26:55
Speaker 1: going to catch up with gematony Uni and Caroline Drusso.
26:57
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about how business is going break
27:00
Speaker 1: the highest rate says the GFC at the moment, which
27:02
Speaker 1: is another worrying sign for the economy, and also at
27:05
Speaker 1: giggling goose Stephen Miles, as we were just saying, his
27:08
Speaker 1: latest attempt to buy votes in Queensland. Let's sort it
27:16
Speaker 1: all out now with Sky New's host Caroline Russo and
27:19
Speaker 1: gematon Uni of course from GT Communications of the desk
27:22
Speaker 1: key with me. I want to start on the immigration
27:24
Speaker 1: matters first up, because this is just horrendous. It goes
27:28
Speaker 1: from worse to worse. We find out today jemm are
27:31
Speaker 1: about another criminal who's allowed to stay in Australia. And
27:35
Speaker 1: it seems the decision is based largely on the directive
27:40
Speaker 1: that's put out by the current Immigration Minister, Andrew Giles.
27:44
Speaker 1: I mean, his actions are allowing for more of these
27:48
Speaker 1: criminals to stay here.
27:49
Speaker 13: And if I've read the story right, Chris, and it's
27:51
Speaker 13: because of that precedent, that initial precedent, that subsequent criminals
27:55
Speaker 13: have been allowed to stay. And it's not just that
27:58
Speaker 13: it's a criminal, it's the nature of the crime in
28:01
Speaker 13: this case, it's particular troubling, particularly troubling, I should say,
28:05
Speaker 13: and I just broadly, if you take a step back
28:08
Speaker 13: and go, if this person was in corporate life, they'd
28:10
Speaker 13: be gone. So what does it take for the Prime
28:13
Speaker 13: Minister to show some leadership within his own cabinet?
28:16
Speaker 2: We all know how parties work.
28:17
Speaker 13: We all know that it's factions and numbers and crap
28:20
Speaker 13: that most everyday voters don't care about, because we're the
28:22
Speaker 13: ones who have to walk the streets with these people
28:25
Speaker 13: without the AFP protecting us, without all of these things.
28:29
Speaker 13: And the Prime Minister is either reluctant or incapable of leading.
28:33
Speaker 13: The bloke deserves to be sacked. He hasn't done his job,
28:36
Speaker 13: and there's nothing but ducking and weaving and chilly shelling
28:39
Speaker 13: around from this spineless government. It's like they're a shiver
28:44
Speaker 13: looking for a spine to run up.
28:45
Speaker 1: It's incredible. Before I come to Carrow, I'm going to
28:48
Speaker 1: show you what Dan Tee and the shadow Immigration ministers
28:50
Speaker 1: had to stay about this because this directive that Andrew
28:53
Speaker 1: Giles has given that allowed this particular criminal to stay
28:56
Speaker 1: in Australia, to get the golden ticket of life in Australia.
29:00
Speaker 1: That's as good as you can do in this world. Well,
29:02
Speaker 1: his crime was unspeakable. It was raping his stepdaughter. Here's
29:07
Speaker 1: Dan ten.
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Speaker 14: To rape a step daughter while your partner is giving
29:13
Speaker 14: birth in hospital.
29:15
Speaker 1: What it shows is that.
29:16
Speaker 14: Ministerial direction is clearly failing. The Prime Minister needs to
29:21
Speaker 14: step in, he needs to rescind this himself, and he
29:25
Speaker 14: has to ask Andrew Giles to resign.
29:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, Caro, it's just in defensible this. Surely everyone in
29:32
Speaker 1: the country can see a this sort of decision should
29:35
Speaker 1: not stand and be The Minister is completely hopeless.
29:40
Speaker 15: The ministers beyond hopeless. And look I can understand, well
29:45
Speaker 15: I can't really understand, but Ultimately, the reality of life
29:49
Speaker 15: is people do commit crimes, right and we know that foreigners,
29:53
Speaker 15: they commit drug offenses, they commit all sorts of fraud offenses,
29:57
Speaker 15: all sorts of things. Once you start getting into violent crimes,
30:01
Speaker 15: and when you start getting into things like child rape,
30:05
Speaker 15: there is in my view, no gray area. There is
30:09
Speaker 15: no you know, got caught up with the wrong crowd,
30:12
Speaker 15: or there is just nothing about this which is redeemable
30:17
Speaker 15: in any way, shape or form. And the only thing
30:20
Speaker 15: that I could almost congratulate Andrew Giles for is being
30:25
Speaker 15: so consistently abysmal in his performance as a minister. And
30:30
Speaker 15: I'm not the sort of person who generally runs around
30:33
Speaker 15: that you know, this person who should be sacked or whatever.
30:35
Speaker 15: But I cannot understand how this government can allow this
30:40
Speaker 15: weeping sore to continue in his cabinet.
30:43
Speaker 1: I don't know how he fronts up every day, Andrew Giles.
30:45
Speaker 1: If you love your country, you loved your own political party, resign,
30:51
Speaker 1: Let somebody in who can actually do the job.
30:53
Speaker 13: It also makes a question, Chris, like, what is cabinet
30:56
Speaker 13: colleagues thinking and doing and does the Prime minister.
30:58
Speaker 1: It's a genuine question.
30:59
Speaker 13: It's not a non part some question, does the Prime
31:01
Speaker 13: Minister truly think that this individual is a doing a
31:04
Speaker 13: good job, be worthy of the service of his community,
31:07
Speaker 13: and c deserving of ongoing support of course.
31:10
Speaker 1: Not that they just don't have the will to fix it. Pathetic.
31:13
Speaker 1: Let's get onto the economy quickly and carrow. Businesses are
31:16
Speaker 1: closing now at a faster rate than they have done
31:19
Speaker 1: since the GFC. This is worrying. We saw all those
31:22
Speaker 1: job cuts in big business from Telstra last week as well.
31:25
Speaker 1: There's some ominous signs, aren't there in the economy.
31:30
Speaker 15: There are ominous signs, But a lot of this is
31:33
Speaker 15: a lot of this is stuff that has been sitting
31:35
Speaker 15: there for a long time. Yes, these are the greatest
31:38
Speaker 15: numbers that we've had since the GFC, But if you
31:41
Speaker 15: speak to a lot of people, arguably we didn't quite
31:44
Speaker 15: take the haircut on the economy at that time.
31:46
Speaker 1: That we probably should have.
31:48
Speaker 15: We obviously had the ATO take its foot off the pedal.
31:54
Speaker 15: Over the period of COVID, we had a lot of
31:57
Speaker 15: support for business that there is all now gone on.
32:01
Speaker 15: And in addition, you know you've seen consumer spending drop
32:05
Speaker 15: and you've seen the cost of servicing debt go up
32:09
Speaker 15: quite a significant amount. So even those businesses which before
32:13
Speaker 15: may have only just been you know, marginally turning over
32:17
Speaker 15: that cost of servicing that debt has now put them
32:22
Speaker 15: well behind and into the red. So this doesn't surprise
32:25
Speaker 15: me at all. The other thing is we know that
32:27
Speaker 15: the ATO, particularly in recent months, has become a lot
32:31
Speaker 15: more aggressive in recovering debt that is owed by business
32:35
Speaker 15: to the government. And my understanding is that a number
32:38
Speaker 15: I'm not saying all of them, but a number of
32:40
Speaker 15: those extra thirty six thousand public servants which were noted
32:44
Speaker 15: in the budget, some of those are in the ATO.
32:48
Speaker 15: So expect the ATO to continue to look for those
32:52
Speaker 15: sorts of funds. Much harder to put together servicing plans
32:56
Speaker 15: that we've had in the past, and the interest rate
32:58
Speaker 15: on those is a killer.
33:00
Speaker 1: I want to get to other stuff, but just quickly
33:02
Speaker 1: on that gemma, because you run a small business and
33:04
Speaker 1: you deal with a lot of businesses, does it ring true?
33:07
Speaker 13: It look blessedly We're doing We're doing really well.
33:10
Speaker 2: We're thriving actually.
33:11
Speaker 13: But I will say this one thing. The industrial relations
33:15
Speaker 13: changes that the federal government board in it's like a
33:17
Speaker 13: whole bunch of people who've never been in business, never
33:20
Speaker 13: employed anyone set around and gone, how can we stuff
33:22
Speaker 13: it up? Like they've made it so unbelievably difficult. And
33:25
Speaker 13: it's not just for people who are employers who are
33:29
Speaker 13: looking for flexibility. People who are working and want flexibility.
33:33
Speaker 13: They don't want to work full.
33:35
Speaker 2: Time because they can't.
33:36
Speaker 13: And I know this personally from my own experience in
33:38
Speaker 13: my own team and others who we work with. They
33:41
Speaker 13: want flexibility, but as an employer you can't give it
33:44
Speaker 13: to them anymore. So the government has made it impossibly
33:49
Speaker 13: harder to do business by almost every metric.
33:51
Speaker 1: Nuts it is nuts. And now speaking of nuts, Queenstine's
33:54
Speaker 1: going to the polls in October. Stephen miles up there.
33:58
Speaker 1: The Premier has already handled out one thousand dollars energy
34:01
Speaker 1: rebate to everyone. Now he says everyone can travel on
34:06
Speaker 1: public transport as far and as often as they like
34:08
Speaker 1: for fifty cents a pop. Here he is sprooking his
34:11
Speaker 1: own genius play.
34:14
Speaker 16: Fifty cents that's all it will cost to go anywhere
34:17
Speaker 16: in Queensland's public transport network from the fifth of August,
34:20
Speaker 16: whether that's trains, buses or ferries, and no matter how
34:23
Speaker 16: long the trip, just fifty cents.
34:27
Speaker 1: Ah, it's what did he win your vote with that sort?
34:31
Speaker 13: I wouldn't just go away. He's just so pathetic. It's
34:35
Speaker 13: so transactional, and so lacking in vision and so lacking
34:40
Speaker 13: in responsibility. It is the most pathetic mister Miles. Nobody
34:46
Speaker 13: likes a kino.
34:47
Speaker 1: You cook. He's got to chuck Ina dives now, don't
34:51
Speaker 1: you reckon?
34:52
Speaker 13: Got wait there's more.
34:55
Speaker 15: Absolutely, absolutely, And look they've already given out that thousand dollars,
34:59
Speaker 15: which which is a very large amount of money.
35:02
Speaker 1: There is some concern.
35:03
Speaker 15: Look, this here is good, I suppose good or palatable
35:07
Speaker 15: from the point of view of a cost of living measure.
35:11
Speaker 15: There has been some concern that it will be inflationary.
35:14
Speaker 15: But sometimes I wonder when you actually consider the number
35:18
Speaker 15: of people that actually use public transport, I often wonder
35:22
Speaker 15: what the numbers on this actually look like, because you know,
35:27
Speaker 15: they cop a huge loss on these sorts of things.
35:29
Speaker 1: Anyway they do, Someone's going to pay for that. Someone
35:32
Speaker 1: has to pay for all of this stuff. Thanks for
35:35
Speaker 1: joining us, Caroline and Jimma. I appreciate it. As ever,
35:38
Speaker 1: we better get to a break on the other side
35:39
Speaker 1: of That're going to catch up with Paul Murray, plus
35:42
Speaker 1: media issues with Sophie l's Worth, including the ABC's Laura
35:45
Speaker 1: Tingle labeling Australia a racist nation. But of course let's
35:54
Speaker 1: catch up on media issues with Sophiel's Worth, media writer
35:57
Speaker 1: with The Australian. Thanks for joining us again, Sophie. You've
35:59
Speaker 1: got some breaking is actually you've just put up on
36:01
Speaker 1: the Australian website with the nine chief executive. Might sneeze
36:05
Speaker 1: be acting on these allegations all is fall out from
36:09
Speaker 1: the former news director Darren Wick? What can you tell us? Well,
36:15
Speaker 1: that's right, Chris.
36:16
Speaker 17: Look, it's breaking news that Mike Steesby has had an
36:19
Speaker 17: all staff meeting at Channel nine today. He sent an
36:22
Speaker 17: email around to staff and he's explained that it's been
36:26
Speaker 17: a very tough time amid these allegations surrounding Darren Wick,
36:30
Speaker 17: and that the network will be launching an independent investigation
36:36
Speaker 17: into claims of cultural issues behavioral issues. There's been some
36:41
Speaker 17: plenty of employees past and present coming out speaking to
36:45
Speaker 17: The Australian and Sky News about allegations leveled at their
36:50
Speaker 17: former news boss Darren Wick. So this is a big
36:53
Speaker 17: step for Nine Today to announce this independent investigation but
36:58
Speaker 17: they are in absolute damnag control here, Chris, this is
37:01
Speaker 17: a pr nightmare for this network. We still have not
37:06
Speaker 17: heard from chairman Peter Costello on the matter. There's been
37:09
Speaker 17: no announcements to the ASX on this. But this is
37:13
Speaker 17: a network that is in absolute crisis. The phone has
37:17
Speaker 17: not stopped ringing with people who have grievances about their
37:21
Speaker 17: treatment at the network, so they are going to be
37:23
Speaker 17: incredibly busy.
37:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed, And look I was listening to TGB this
37:28
Speaker 1: morning Ray Hadley owned by nine Entertainment, same media organization,
37:33
Speaker 1: and he's had women coming to him as well, so
37:35
Speaker 1: they're reporting on some of their own descent within it.
37:38
Speaker 1: Darren Wick has gone of course, but as you say,
37:40
Speaker 1: this internal inquiry could mean that others are in the
37:43
Speaker 1: frame for what's going on in the past. We'll read
37:46
Speaker 1: with interest as you continue to tease out that story, Sophie,
37:49
Speaker 1: I want to get to another story that you've had
37:51
Speaker 1: all over the paper. This is incredible. I showed a
37:53
Speaker 1: bit of it at the top of the at the
37:55
Speaker 1: top of the show. This is Laura Tingle, the seven
37:57
Speaker 1: thirty political reporter, and here's her view of Australians as
38:02
Speaker 1: related at the City Writers Festival. We are a racist.
38:05
Speaker 9: Campulent's face that we always have been as very depressing.
38:09
Speaker 9: To give a license like that I find profoundly depressing
38:13
Speaker 9: and a terrible.
38:14
Speaker 1: Prospect for the next election. Tell me more about this, Sophie.
38:20
Speaker 1: I mean the racist she's attacking Peter Dutton and the
38:23
Speaker 1: Coalition when she's calling the nation racist, but she doesn't
38:26
Speaker 1: mind all the tax dollars that come from those racist
38:29
Speaker 1: Australians to pay her wage.
38:33
Speaker 17: Well, Chris, we'll have more about this in The Australian tomorrow.
38:36
Speaker 17: But the ABC have a very serious problem on their hands.
38:40
Speaker 17: Laura Tingle is not only their chief political correspondent for
38:44
Speaker 17: their flagship program on politics, The seven thirty Report, she
38:49
Speaker 17: is the ABC staff elected board member. Now they have
38:53
Speaker 17: a problem because she's coming out with very partisan views
38:57
Speaker 17: that she you know, was happy to air Sydney Ryders
39:01
Speaker 17: Festival yesterday. This has dominated news headlines all around the
39:05
Speaker 17: country today and this is a problem for chair Kim Williams.
39:09
Speaker 17: He came out just two months ago, Chris and said
39:13
Speaker 17: he does not want journalists at the network that are
39:15
Speaker 17: not impartial. So this is an absolute nightmare for the
39:20
Speaker 17: ABC and it comes just days before the Managing director,
39:24
Speaker 17: David Anderson is set to front Senate Estimates and ig
39:28
Speaker 17: beec that he will be grilled on this matter.
39:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we should, as you say. Kim Williams, the
39:33
Speaker 1: new chair obviously having no influence because they're still the
39:36
Speaker 1: staff running the show. And they finally got rid of
39:38
Speaker 1: the old lefty who's been preaching his leftist views on
39:41
Speaker 1: the ABC Radio National every night for thirty years, in
39:45
Speaker 1: Philip Adams, and they replace him with another shocking lefty.
39:49
Speaker 1: I mean they're having a lend of us, aren't they.
39:54
Speaker 17: Well, Chris, it is a very left leaning broadcaster, as
39:58
Speaker 17: you and I talk about and have to talk about
40:00
Speaker 17: for years. But this is a problem that is so widespread.
40:04
Speaker 17: But the difference now is there is a new chair
40:07
Speaker 17: in charge, Kim Williams. He is known that he doesn't
40:10
Speaker 17: hold back in his views and nor should he. But
40:14
Speaker 17: he has a problem now because Laura Tingle was only
40:17
Speaker 17: appointed to the board last year in Mays. She has
40:20
Speaker 17: a five year now. It's just that I went along
40:23
Speaker 17: to this Writer's Festival event at Chris and reported this.
40:28
Speaker 17: Otherwise the ABC and Australians would.
40:31
Speaker 18: Be none the wiser.
40:32
Speaker 17: Are on what taxpayers are paying for, so they have
40:35
Speaker 17: to do something about this.
40:37
Speaker 1: In my view, they sure do. And thank god you
40:39
Speaker 1: turn up at these events and where that trauma for
40:43
Speaker 1: all of us. Sophig I appreciate it. The whole country
40:45
Speaker 1: appreciates it. Sophie Ozaworth there read her stuff in the
40:48
Speaker 1: Australian says all over this, how about that, They've got
40:50
Speaker 1: to do something at a board level. But Laura Tingle
40:53
Speaker 1: sits on the board as the staff representative. They are
40:56
Speaker 1: just a rule to themselves, the ABC staff run collective.
41:00
Speaker 1: Let me bring in the great Paul Murray will be
41:02
Speaker 1: back here at nine o'clock or over there in the
41:04
Speaker 1: man cave at nine o'clock. Back from the Western Plains.
41:08
Speaker 18: Was a great time in Parks. I even learned a
41:10
Speaker 18: little bit of Elvis moves and Elvis dancing. Anyway, it
41:13
Speaker 18: was fun, but Parks was Park's amazing, beautiful place, great stuff.
41:15
Speaker 1: And I love the dish. Who doesn't love the dish?
41:17
Speaker 18: Who doesn't love the dish? But I tell you who does.
41:20
Speaker 18: Some of the people at the dish not big fans.
41:21
Speaker 18: We tried to go and do chats and all the
41:23
Speaker 18: rest of it. Cso oh sorry, not available. Jeez, I
41:27
Speaker 18: wonder now you've got to help me out here.
41:30
Speaker 1: We just talked about the ABC billions of dollars of
41:33
Speaker 1: our money pumping out all the green left propaganda that
41:36
Speaker 1: a labor prime minister like Anthony Albernez he would love.
41:39
Speaker 1: Yet he's got the nerve to winge about the media
41:41
Speaker 1: that he's getting.
41:43
Speaker 18: All prime ministers whenever they start to slip first, blame media, right,
41:48
Speaker 18: and in most cases not really a reasonable thing to do.
41:54
Speaker 18: You can't make up things about the failure of the
41:57
Speaker 18: prime minister. I've been hard marking since before it was
42:00
Speaker 18: the prime and copped it as a result. But we've
42:04
Speaker 18: all slowly got to the point where the evidence builds
42:07
Speaker 18: up on the failures of the bloke about too little,
42:10
Speaker 18: too late on tax cuts, about Israel, about you name
42:13
Speaker 18: it right, and if you push at those things, oh
42:16
Speaker 18: then you're just cheerleading. Allegedly For Peter Dutton, when he
42:21
Speaker 18: was talking about the blurring of lines between news and opinion,
42:25
Speaker 18: I assume he's talking about Laura Tingle, because you know it. Like,
42:30
Speaker 18: despite the things that we say as heartfelt, deep criticisms
42:35
Speaker 18: of this organization, we all understand the importance of it.
42:38
Speaker 18: We all understand the role and the.
42:39
Speaker 1: Reach of it.
42:40
Speaker 18: What's always sent me a little bit crazy is it's
42:44
Speaker 18: a little bit like when people are in a rock
42:46
Speaker 18: band and they're really famous because of the rock band,
42:49
Speaker 18: and then they go out in the solo and then
42:50
Speaker 18: they're actually exposed as not quite having the following that
42:52
Speaker 18: the band had. Right that, the reason you're at the Writers' Festival,
42:57
Speaker 18: the reason you're at the National Press Club, the reason
43:00
Speaker 18: you're at writing for the monthly is because of the
43:04
Speaker 18: job of the ABC. Now, if that purports to be
43:09
Speaker 18: this sort of at times emotionless just balls and strikes,
43:13
Speaker 18: say it as it is just the facts man, Well,
43:15
Speaker 18: then part of the responsibility is that you don't go
43:18
Speaker 18: outside of that. But increasingly they're able to have it
43:21
Speaker 18: both ways. Yeah, and that's what I find particularly frustrating.
43:23
Speaker 1: It's all done on taxpayers dollars. Let's just have a
43:25
Speaker 1: look again at what Alba had to say.
43:27
Speaker 7: No, there are some journalists who more stenographers in particular
43:35
Speaker 7: the right wing media than actual journalists. They're a cheers squad.
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Speaker 1: There are a cheers quad. I just want to get
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Speaker 1: back to what this says about Albo, Right, because we
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Speaker 1: all know you and I both criticize the media and
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Speaker 1: we get criticized. There's no harm in criticizing the media
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Speaker 1: and politicians they'll have their gripes with the media here
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Speaker 1: and there. But when you start winging about it, especially
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Speaker 1: when you're prime minister, that shows you're a bit desperate.
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Speaker 1: That shows your layling around.
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Speaker 18: But also the reality is that he will also simple
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Speaker 18: hand simultaneously be saying, oh, but no one reads it, well,
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Speaker 18: no one watches it, or no one listens to pick
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Speaker 18: a lane, right, which is it? It's nobody's seeing it,
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Speaker 18: or it's the force that is denying the amazingness of
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Speaker 18: the government. You want to talk about stenographer work. There
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Speaker 18: was a profile in and around the a couple of
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Speaker 18: year mark of the government, in one of the more
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Speaker 18: favored news outlets of the Prime minister. It could have
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Speaker 18: been written from Darwin like it had no behind the scenes,
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Speaker 18: there was no problems. Everything is awesome. You know. Oh
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Speaker 18: the immigration stuff is because it's a poison chalice for
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Speaker 18: labor people, like there's there is an awful lot of
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Speaker 18: media that is out there singing the tune.
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Speaker 1: Of the most most of the media singing his chune look.
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Speaker 18: At the way they did tax cuts. If you actually
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Speaker 18: turn around divided by fifty two point that out as
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Speaker 18: too little, too late as regularly as we do.
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Speaker 1: Oh oh, no, one's making it up.
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Speaker 18: But this is the bloke who wants to create, who
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Speaker 18: wants to sensor the Internet off the basis of misinformation. Yeah,
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Speaker 18: it sh'll concern you that not only does he have
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Speaker 18: a glass jaw, the problem is he's got the pen
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Speaker 18: to write the law.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he wants that silence all the critics and only
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Speaker 1: have his cheer squad. Paul Murray, great to have you
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Speaker 1: on set. He'll be in the man Cave at nine o'clock.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to get to a break. On the other
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Speaker 1: side of that, were going to catch up with Senator
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Speaker 1: Sarah Henderson and talk about what's happening our university is
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Speaker 1: when it comes to anti semitism. We's got to Melbourne
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Speaker 1: now and catch up with Sarah Henderson, the Shadow Education
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Speaker 1: Minister joining us actually from Canberra. As it happens. Thanks
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Speaker 1: for joining us, Sarah. I know you started the day
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Speaker 1: in Melbourne. You visited the Mount Scopus School where we've
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Speaker 1: seen that a horrible anti Semitic graffiti attack Deputy Prime
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Speaker 1: Minister Richard Miles visited the school as well today. Tell
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Speaker 1: us what you think of his visit and what he
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Speaker 1: had to say and do that well.
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Speaker 19: I was there a couple of hours after Richard, and
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Speaker 19: also Josh Byrne, who I think has been a lone
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Speaker 19: wolf in labor in terms of being a very strong
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Speaker 19: voice for the Jewish community. I have to say, after
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Speaker 19: the terrible anti Semitic attack on the school, which really
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Speaker 19: shocked everyone, Chris, the Coalition stand, the zero tolerance stand
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Speaker 19: that we are taking against anti semitism, was received very
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Speaker 19: warmly by students and staff. I made it very clear
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Speaker 19: that we will not tolerate anti semitism in any form.
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Speaker 19: And of course everyone is very aware of what the
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Speaker 19: Education Minister Jason Clear is doing, not hauling in the
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Speaker 19: vcs of universities, not taking a strong stand against the encampments,
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Speaker 19: not shutting down anti semitism on university campuses. And of
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Speaker 19: course I spoke with a number of year twelve students
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Speaker 19: who are really concerned about going to universities like the
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Speaker 19: University of Melbourne because of what's going on there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just terrible. Now, of course it's a good
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Speaker 1: thing that the Deputy Prime Minister went to the school
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Speaker 1: and I don't disagree with anything Richard Miles said, but
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Speaker 1: I'm hypercritical because it's too little, too late, because the
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Speaker 1: government's done so little on this since October the eighth
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Speaker 1: to stamp this out in the show some authority and
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Speaker 1: provide some leadership that they're culpable for what's going on now.
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Speaker 1: They can't undo what they did back in October last year,
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Speaker 1: but the university campuses is where they can take some action.
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Speaker 1: Surely if they showed there that we won't tolerate people
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Speaker 1: urging an arm resistance supporting the work of bloodthirsty terrorists.
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Speaker 1: I mean, we have university students saying they openly support
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Speaker 1: humas this is hate speech. They've got to take some action.
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Speaker 19: They absolutely have to take action, and the failure to
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Speaker 19: do so is a complete failure of leadership by the
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Speaker 19: Prime Minister and by the Education Minister. We're seeing weezer words, Chris,
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Speaker 19: but frankly we are seeing no where are the fines?
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Speaker 19: Where is the police when of course students are breaching
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Speaker 19: the law. There is absolutely no doubt that the universities
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Speaker 19: have been sitting on their hands in some respects when
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Speaker 19: it comes to shocking incidents of discrimination, harassment, intimidation, Jason
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Speaker 19: Claire has not called for the encampments to be shut down,
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Speaker 19: which are fueling shocking levels of anti Semitism, particularly at
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Speaker 19: Melbourne UNI and Sydney UNI. Of course, he didn't directly
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Speaker 19: condemn the use of children when they were encouraged to
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Speaker 19: chant into Farda. And as we know, Jason Claire says
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Speaker 19: into Farda and the rivets of the sea means different
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Speaker 19: things to different people. I think he is more concerned
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Speaker 19: about the very large Muslim population in his electorate than
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Speaker 19: about standing up for safety on university campuses, because frankly,
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Speaker 19: every student is entitled to be safe at a university,
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Speaker 19: including Jewish students, and this government should be throwing the
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Speaker 19: absolute book at universities. And it is a disgrace that
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Speaker 19: he is basically doing next to nothing. A few words
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Speaker 19: here and there. That's doing nothing, Chris, it.
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Speaker 1: Sure is, Sarah. It's so disappointing and so worrying for
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Speaker 1: the country. Thanks so much for joining us again. I
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Speaker 1: appreciate it, said it to Sarah Henderson. They're live from camera.
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Speaker 1: Just a bit of time for some of your feedback
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Speaker 1: from what I had to say last week about the
49:21
Speaker 1: Eraing power station, how we're subsidizing it to go out
49:24
Speaker 1: and we're subsidizing it to stay in. Linda says politicians
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Speaker 1: need to get out of our lives and out of
49:29
Speaker 1: our pockets, and another viewer says, never underestimate the amount
49:33
Speaker 1: of stupid people. Politicians are no different. Perhaps they feed
49:37
Speaker 1: off that. And finally, Dale says, can we get rid
49:39
Speaker 1: of the fools running our country? No, well, we need
49:42
Speaker 1: someone running our country. You can get rid of this mob,
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Speaker 1: but you have to wait till the next election, and
49:46
Speaker 1: you've got to hope that your friends do the same.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for watching. I'll be back at five tomorrow. He's
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Speaker 1: Peter Quidlin.