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What's it like working for Thomas Nagy? · The Electrical Show

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  The Electrical Show with Thomas Najie sponsored by Bosh Professional, Powerful power Tools,
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  measuring tools and experts accessories. Welcome to the Electrical Show with Bosch Professional here
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  on Fix Radio. I'm your host Thomas Najie and joining me today in the
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  studio is rightly or wrongly one of my own employees. Jay. Now you've
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  heard me talking in the past on previous shows about hiring sparks, managing sparks
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  and actually how how difficult that is. Genuinely, anybody who is who is
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  self employed, you know how tough it is hiring and more more importantly maintaining
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  and retaining your own staff. So we've we've got Jay in a studio today.
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  Yeah, I mean this could go one or two ways this and I'm
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  not sure. I'm open and I'm open to you know, negative constructive,
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  negative critique. Yeah, you can hear the nervousness in my voice. I'm
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  going to be asking Jay what it's like working for me, and we're going
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  to touch on his experiences in the trade as well. The Electrical Show on
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  Fixed Radio. You're listening to The Electrical Show with Bosh Professional and Thomas Najie
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  and joined with me today in the studio an employee of mine. Jay,
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  He is here to talk about what it's like working for me. Now,
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  before you will put your trials down and think this is staged, I can
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  assure you we have. We genuinely spoke. We've spoken briefly, haven't we?
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  What about coming about this? But I don't know one hundred percent.
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  I don't know what your answers are going to have no knowledge of you call
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  me about half nine last night to see, yeah, do I fancy that?
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  Yeah? So I have no knowledge of what we're going to do.
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  I know roughly what we're going to talk about, but what your answers are
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  going to be, I don't know. So, just for the just for
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  the listener, how did you come to work for me? Just explain how
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  that unfolded. I was literally just watching one of your videos on YouTube,
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  slurking my water really hard, and I thought I'll give it a go,
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  and I think you're an email And the next day we had a chat,
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  the day after another chat, and then I came and then we came down
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  to the offices, did a couple of days, a couple of days,
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  and then and that was it. Yeah, I started that was pretty much
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  it. Yeah, what were your What was the reason you wanted to find
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  new work because you were we can't say the name, but you were working
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  for a big, big outfit. Well, I was a spread and I
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  was getting complete sick of it. Yeah, I was just not enjoying it.
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  But I always wanted to be a sparky, but I was told be
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  a spread. Okay, somebody, actually, I know. One of the
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  reasons we took you on was because you had a bit of multi trade experience,
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  which is handy. It was definitely one of the things that shone in
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  your favor because you were you had the ability you could just throw yourself.
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  You have a few tricky you had you had that was genuine. That was
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  one of the reasons why me and Sarah were talking about hiring you. It
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  was one of the things that really stood in your favor because you have the
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  ability you can just throw it. It's great to have a spark, but
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  if you've got somebody who can just throw themselves and do a bit of anything,
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  yes, your bulk is being a spark, but if you can throw
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  yourself a bit of anything, it really is. And you're absolutely right,
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  You've got us out of a couple of scrapes before already. So when did
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  you feel that you were an I say the word accepted member, because everyone
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  when they started a job, they always feel like a sort of the new
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  fish. When did you feel like an accepted member? I mean maybe you
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  still don't. Maybe I think we've gone past that though. Yeah. Probably
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  when I got invited to Scoot a night, Scoot a night, that was
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  a big thing. Yeah, Scoot every Thursday is Scoot at night, So
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  that was that was an important effect. A week or two later and yeah,
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  I didn't go, but you've never been invited since. Yeah, all
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  right, Well let's talk about, probably more importantly, what I'm like as
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  as a boss next, and that's I guess what, I guess Everyone's way
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  for the Electrical Show with Thomas Nagi on fixed Radio, the Builders Station,
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  Thomas Nagie And on today's electrical show, I've been joined by one of my
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  employees, Jay, and we're going to find out what it's like working for
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  me. So let's get it out. Let's get it over with. To
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  be honest, what's it like. You're actually a top guy to work for?
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  You have your moments, I'll pay you outside separately but no, you
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  have your moments, but obviously you've got stress, you've got issues keeping a
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  company. Like I was going it is, I know, I know what
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  you mean. I have moments, So define moments for people. Let's let's
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  get in defined moments. Well, I know you, I'm okay, I
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  don't mind. I can tell when Tom's in a mood by the way he
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  gets out the van and I will say he's in the mood and everyone's like,
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  how do you know? I was like, I can tell, I
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  can tell, and everyone's like, how do you know this? That's really
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  I actually didn't know that. I mean, I know my silence. I
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  have levels of silence because normally I'm actually quite acquired level though when I'm super
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  silent when wrong. Yeah, yeah, But in Jay's de fact, he's
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  actually quite good at getting me back to a sort of a working sort of
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  harmony. Is it because of the random questions or my just complete nonsense I
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  talk? Normally? It's the nonsense that you talk. Yeah, And I've
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  learned that you come out and you just sort of say you're feeling all right,
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  just because I find I feel like if you get out, if there
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  is something in the air, just say it and then we all know.
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  Right, let's leave you alone for like an hour. To be fair,
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  it's normally nothing that you guys have done. It's normally like an email from
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  a client that's just really aggravated me, or just any any number of things.
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  Generally it's nothing to do with you guys, as I mean, sometimes
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  it is. But normally if it is, like we talk about normably,
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  will talk about it separately. So it's not do you know what I mean?
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  So normally if it's if there's an issue, we'll talk about its sort
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  of thing. Yeah, but yeah, as soon as you pull up to
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  the office in the morning, the way you get out because I'm always first,
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  Tom's never first, by the way people i'm there. That is that
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  is your good That is one of your shining good qualities that you are.
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  I mean, you're your timekeeping its spot on. Well, if you're if
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  you're early, you're late. Yeah, what what's your perception of sort of
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  because it's you came from a big company and you come down to a small
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  outfit, so what's your perception of Like it must have changed your your perception
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  of the employer employee dynamic and how that works because like I said, you
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  came from a huge company. Well, yeah, I've worked for a few
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  big companies and they don't care about the workers coming here. Totally different.
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  You care you always. It's more personally. I think I know a lot
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  about your personal life. You know a lot about my personally. That's the
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  thing, isn't it. With big companies you kind of lose that, don't
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  know, if if something happens, you'll just go look, yeah it's fine,
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  dude, this or you know the swings and roundabouts. Really that's the
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  thing. Yeah, it's there's a lot of swings and roundabouts in what we
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  do. Because that was the conversation that we've had, Like with contracts and
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  stuff like, because forever I've we've spoken about contracts on the on the show,
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  in past shows and stuff, and your contract. You have a contract,
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  but there's also like a working contract, like a verbal contract, which
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  is separate, you know, and you just build that through being here.
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  You just build that through just of course. But I think there's also a
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  mutual respect between us two where's yeah, that's basically you know, I work
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  my socks off. You can you can laugh and say yeah. But then
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  also like if I go can I leave an hour early? Be like,
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  and I say okay through christ teeth. Yeah, yeah, it's because I
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  don't leave early anyway. We've just had we just had trackers installed and all
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  the company big he knows where I'm going with it. We just had trackers
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  on all the company vehicles, right, and it's got this really cool app
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  and it measures your acceleration and breaking. You shouldn't give me a nice pickup
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  truck that's been remapped and it's very fun, Richard, Right, Jay,
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  harsh breaking zero? Okay, except it was harsh breaking, wasn't it?
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  It literally zero, couldn't get lower, it was cornering. Was like,
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  yeah, well, look after some music, let's let's talk about your experiences
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  in the trade as an employee rather than in my position of the boss.
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  And that's it's a perspective we've never really had on the show before. So
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  let's get let's do that next. The Electrical Show will return in moments.
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  This is the Electrical Show with Bosh Professional Fantastic Outfit Bosh. We love them
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  here on the show. I'm Thomas Nagie. If you've just tuned in,
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  you a little late, but don't worry. We are joined in a studio
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  today by one of my employees, Jay, and he's here to share his
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  experiences working with me. Now, Jay, you've you've seen, like I
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  say, you've come from a big outfit, you've come to a small outfit
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  like mine, and you've seen that dynamic shift of going from a big outfit
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  to a small outfit, and you've seen the stress because like you say,
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  I'm a grumpy bugger. So and it is true. I don't deny it,
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  not all the time, a few days a month, where a few
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  days a week. At what's your aspects of working for yourself though, because
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  that is one problem I do find is that people end up working for themselves,
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  which is great, but it's bad. If I want to retain stuff
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  I have thought about this, I wouldn't do it just yet, just because
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  I see how we much stress it causes you. There's a lot of stress
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  and I'm too young for that. Yeah, it is a I don't know,
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  it's it's a lot of stress. But like I think, if you've
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  got we've got more work now than we've ever had. But it's definitely like
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  last week where you just basically dealt with that whole week because I was doing
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  other work. That was definitely easier because you just took you took an entire
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  week's worth of jobs and you just basically just you just got on with it
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  and just made it happen. At the end of the week, we had
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  a load of stations or with fire alarm systems all working. So that for
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  me is definitely what makes my life less stressful and then you get a less
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  grumpy boss. Yeah. Well, no, I do enjoy it, but
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  I was a stressful week, a long week. Yeah, we've had it.
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  It's at the end of the month, so government budgets. People are
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  going to submit their books and stuff and we've got work we have to finish
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  their last The last sort of two weeks has been like half five towards eight
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  o'clock, it's been there's a long day. Yeah, So when I sit
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  here and I look like a chew topee on camera, that's why other aspects
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  of this job that you enjoy more than others. No, to be honest,
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  I like it all because it makes me use my brain. It's not
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  like you just do the same thing inside day inside every day. It's just
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  something it's always different. Yeah, Like even if we're doing what we were
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  doing yesterday and you can see it doesn't go right and you'll be waiting a
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  two hours for something to Yea. The highways work that we do is quite
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  fun though, isn't it. That's good. It's good laughing, it's a
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  good crack. It's public. Just yeah, there's a lot. Yeah,
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  I think you hate me in public. I do hate you in public because
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  you have zero filter, yes, literally less than filter. Yeah, but
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  I do. I do enjoy all aspects. If I had to say what
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  I love the most, I do enjoy doing a board change. I really
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  do enjoy them because you just get left alone. You can do it how
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  you want to do it, and just get on with that and get on
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  with it, and at the end of the day you're like, wow,
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  I've done that. What bit do you not enjoy um? Working with me?
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  No? No, No. The drive sometimes, I've always been driving
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  for work and it's just when you're driving two hours somewhere for a job,
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  yeah, and you get stuck on you in twenty five going on the way
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  home, You're like, yeah, a lot of our work is out in
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  Essex, and that it does. I mean normally we meet at the unit
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  at like quarter past half past six. I mean he says he's there first.
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  Always it's not always true, all right, okay, but normally we'll
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  drive out there and do you know what, not always true? You do
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  not fill up my fixing tray, right? That is that we're dealing with
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  that. I don't care what's on this memo sheet in front of us.
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  Right, we've all got fixing trays, right, because I ah, mate,
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  this just annoys me so much. Right, we've all got fixing trades.
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  We use those Sawtomo cases and they've got a lot that you can put
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  all the little screws in your nutsy boltsy washers and all that sort of stuff.
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  You've done it once, right mate? How does it work mate?
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  You? Oh my god, you turn out to a job. Mate.
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  I opened your fixing tray the other day, Mate, I literally almost I
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  almost passed out. There was just there was nothing in it. I'm also
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  blaming Richard for that because he kept taking all my bits. To be fair,
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  Richard doesn't even have toolbags. Yeah, it's kind of I don't know.
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  I'm trying. I'm working on Richard. It's a slow It comes to
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  work with a test goes carrier bag I'm working on him, but grow fixed
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  tools. It's a hard road to hold this one, but I'm working on
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  it. But I just all I'm saying, is it. Look if you've
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  got a case and all of you nuts and bot I know everyone's thinking,
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  I'm sad. I don't care nineteen years of doing this. If you just
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  turn up with a case and you've got your one and half in shapes,
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  your red plugs, your washes, your spring washers, and they're all nice
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  and neatly, you open the case and they're all beautifully they're presented, it
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  does make your life easier. You're right, You're right, but you don't
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  always fill it up like you say. It's not my responsibility to fill it
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  up, but I have fit to you number of times. Can we order
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  a load of bits in and then we can peel off my face and terror
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  it's confetti. He's only being like this because he knows I'm I'm killing the
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  truth. May you're listening to I'm still literally listen to fixed radio to build
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  a station, get set in the morning. The Electrical Shower with Thomas Naji.
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  I'm Thomas Nagie bringing home another electrical show to an end where I've talked
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  to Jay, one of my employees, about what it's like working for me
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  and my company, and despite the fixings, tray grievances, we're we're all
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  good. Jay, just a final word, what give us? Give us
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  a score? Go on, give us a score out of ten and saying
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  I can give us a score out of ten and something you'd like to see
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  me improve on. Um, I'm not going to give you a ten out
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  of ten because then you won't improve or anything. So I'll say, oh,
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  I'm going to give you a ten. I'll give you an eight out
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  of ten. I'll give you an eight out of ten, but one thing
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  you genuinely like to see me improve on the way you talk to your fans.
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  Wow, because you get very nervous, and I have to deal with
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  it right, okay in person. Okay, I have to deal with it
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  right when you're there, because you get very Yeah, you have to do
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  with that, mate. I can't hope with it. I can't change it.
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  You just be like what I mate, Yeah, I can't cope with
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  it. Yeah, Yeah, you get very nervous. It's not that it's
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  just when people meet you, right that. We had that guy the other
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  day, totally cool, totally chill, happy to talk to them. But
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  some people just literally just they just sit there and what they just and I'm
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  like, what, I'm I supposed to stay back? I don't know.
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  I've said hi, I've said how are you doing, I've said are you
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  all right? I don't know. I'm not like you all right? Well,
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  look you, I genuinely I would also give you. I'd give you
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  also a nice steady aid happily can I improve on? What can you improve
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  on? You're fixings tray? I would love you. I would the day
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  you have a fixing tray where everything is beautifully presented and the back of your
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  pickup is exactly the same. Mate. That's that's a Paul Hollywood handshake right
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  there. Every day. Honestly, I don't mean anything because I know you
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  want cash, but yeah, yeah, that's a Nargie handshake. Yeah,
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