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- 0:00Intro: This podcast is brought to you by the Institute for Mental Health and Wellbeing.
- 0:04Intro: Building mentally healthy, high-performing workplaces.
- 0:08Intro: Mental health matters.
- 0:11Sarah: You know, usually when we think about a home security system, the premise is, well, it's pretty simple.
- 0:15Sarah: You lock the doors, you arm the alarm, and you keep the bad guys out.
- 0:19Sarah: Right.
- 0:19Sarah: Yeah.
- 0:20Sarah: There is this clear physical boundary between the safety inside and, you know, the threats outside.
- 0:27Sarah: You know exactly what you're protecting yourself from.
- 0:30Adrian: It's a defensive perimeter.
- 0:31Adrian: Yeah.
- 0:31Adrian: Basically designed to be completely binary, like safe or unsafe, inside or outside.
- 0:37Sarah: Exactly.
- 0:37Sarah: But then you look at how we protect our own peace of mind, and suddenly, I mean, that security system is just totally backwards.
- 0:44Sarah: Oh, completely.
- 0:44Sarah: We bolt all the doors, we check all the windows, but the intruder is like already sitting on the living room couch.
- 0:50Adrian: Just making themselves right at home.
- 0:51Sarah: Yeah.
- 0:52Sarah: And that paradox is really at the heart of how we process modern anxiety, which is the core focus of our deep dive today.
- 0:59Sarah: We're unpacking this concept called N stressors, negative stressors, which was developed by a stress management consultant named Jess Moulton.
- 1:07Adrian: And what's fascinating here is that Moulton's framework, it provides this brilliant lens for looking at why we feel so perpetually overwhelmed.
- 1:16Adrian: Right.
- 1:16Adrian: Because we spend so much energy trying to manage the external world.
- 1:21Adrian: Right.
- 1:21Adrian: Or we're convinced that the environment is doing something to us.
- 1:24Adrian: When really the reality of our exhaustion comes from how we are internally processing that world.
- 1:31Sarah: Which brings us to this line right at the beginning of his work that honestly it kind of made me stop in my tracks.
- 1:36Sarah: Because it's a bold, almost controversial claim.
- 1:40Adrian: Yeah.
- 1:40Adrian: It definitely catches you off guard.
- 1:41Sarah: Right.
- 1:42Sarah: He writes, we are the sole perpetrators of our stressed-out lives.
- 1:46Sarah: And okay, let's unpack this.
- 1:49Sarah: Because on the surface, sole perpetrators sounds well, it sounds dangerously close to victim blaming.
- 1:55Adrian: It does.
- 1:56Sarah: Like if my car breaks down on the highway and I'm going to miss a crucial meeting, or you know, if a company decides to downsize my department, I am certainly not the perpetrator of that event.
- 2:05Adrian: No, of course not.
- 2:05Sarah: Yeah.
- 2:06Adrian: And it is a jarring statement at first glance.
- 2:08Adrian: But the distinction he makes is vital.
- 2:12Adrian: Molden isn't talking about taking the blame for the bad events themselves.
- 2:16Adrian: Okay.
- 2:16Adrian: You didn't, you know, cause the engine to fail.
- 2:18Adrian: You didn't make the executive decision to cut jobs.
- 2:21Adrian: The event itself is mathematically neutral.
- 2:23Speaker: Right.
- 2:24Speaker: Okay.
- 2:24Adrian: What he's highlighting is that our perception of the event, specifically those irrational narratives, we just instantly build around it.
- 2:32Adrian: That is what actually invites this end stress to take up residence in our heads.
- 2:36Sarah: So the car breaking down is just a mechanical failure of metal and oil.
- 2:40Sarah: The end stress is the story I immediately tell myself while I'm like sitting on the shoulder of the highway.
- 2:46Sarah: The narrative that my boss will think I'm irresponsible, that this is going to ruin my reputation, that my whole week is just totally derailed.
- 2:53Adrian: Yes.
- 2:54Adrian: And that is actually where the empowerment lies.
- 2:56Adrian: Because if you are the perpetrator of that internal narrative, well, you hold the keys to stop it.
- 3:02Sarah: Right.
- 3:02Adrian: The anxiety isn't happening to you, it's being generated by you.
- 3:06Sarah: Yeah.
- 3:06Adrian: And Moulton categorizes the ways we manufacture this internal panic into four specific types of hidden enemies, four end stressors that just sort of lurk in our daily routines.
- 3:16Sarah: And as we go through these four today, I really want you listening to keep a mental checklist.
- 3:22Sarah: Like think about your own week, your own inbox, your own relationships.
- 3:26Sarah: Because I guarantee you we're going to recognize your own reflection in at least one of these.
- 3:30Sarah: So since we've established that we are the perpetrators of our own stress, let's look at the most common raw material we use to build that stress, the clock.
- 3:41Adrian: Ah, yeah.
- 3:41Sarah: This is the first category.
- 3:42Sarah: Time stressors.
- 3:44Adrian: The ticking time bomb of modern productivity, basically.
- 3:47Sarah: Right.
- 3:47Sarah: So time stressors hit when we constantly worry about time in relation to the tasks we need to perform, particularly when facing a deadline that is just fundamentally too short.
- 3:57Sarah: Yeah.
- 3:57Sarah: But what's fascinating is the psychological trap we fall into here.
- 4:01Sarah: When end stress takes over in a time crunch, we don't actually work harder or faster.
- 4:06Sarah: We do this bizarre form of self-sabotage.
- 4:10Adrian: We experience a complete collapse of cognitive efficiency because we have this culturally ingrained illusion that if we just hustle harder, you know, skip lunch, tight faster, we can somehow bend the physics of time.
- 4:22Sarah: Right, the whole grind culture thing.
- 4:23Adrian: Exactly.
- 4:24Adrian: But when a deadline is genuinely unrealistic, the physiological panic takes over.
- 4:29Adrian: The brain perceives a threat, it floods the system with cortisol, and your executive function like the part of your brain responsible for actual problem solving, it just starts to shut down.
- 4:41Sarah: Which leads to a behavior Moulton points out that is painfully relatable.
- 4:46Sarah: When we are stressed by time, we actually waste our valuable remaining minutes dreaming up an escape plan in case we fail.
- 4:54Adrian: Yes.
- 4:54Adrian: It's so counterproductive.
- 4:56Sarah: It's like realizing your kitchen is on fire, but instead of grabbing the fire extinguisher, you sit down at the dining table to draft a blueprint for a brand new fire escape.
- 5:04Adrian: That is a perfect analogy.
- 5:06Adrian: You are completely abandoning the present crisis to construct this imaginary safety net for a future failure.
- 5:12Sarah: Right.
- 5:12Sarah: You sit at your desk calculating, like, okay, if I miss this deadline by two hours, what exactly will I say in the slack message to my manager to soften the blow?
- 5:20Speaker: Yeah.
- 5:20Sarah: Should I blame a software glitch?
- 5:22Sarah: And you spend 20 minutes wordsmithing an apology for a failure that hasn't even happened yet.
- 5:28Sarah: You're literally guaranteeing the failure by wasting the time you do have.
- 5:32Adrian: And the brain does this because it is desperately craving control.
- 5:36Adrian: An unrealistic deadline removes your agency over success.
- 5:40Adrian: It makes you feel powerless.
- 5:42Sarah: Wow.
- 5:42Sarah: Okay.
- 5:43Adrian: So to get a little hit of dopamine, to feel like it's doing something productive, the brain tries to gain control over the failure instead.
- 5:50Adrian: Planning an apology feels like action, even though it's the completely wrong action.
- 5:55Sarah: So the remedy here really has to be rooted in roofless realism.
- 5:58Sarah: Moulton advocates for establishing proper time management, right?
- 6:02Sarah: And keeping an up-to-date schedule to meet demands realistically.
- 6:05Adrian: Yes, but realistic is the operative word there.
- 6:07Sarah: Right.
- 6:08Sarah: It's not about cramming 50 tasks into an eight-hour day.
- 6:11Sarah: It's about setting an upfront boundary.
- 6:13Sarah: Like if the deadline is impossible, the time to address it is during the initial planning phase, not when the kitchen is already engulfed in flames.
- 6:21Adrian: Exactly.
- 6:22Adrian: It requires having the difficult conversation on Monday rather than drafting the elaborate apology on Friday.
- 6:28Sarah: Yeah, that makes so much sense.
- 6:29Sarah: So the trap of the escape plan happens when we are racing against a real literal clock.
- 6:34Sarah: But the brain's need for control becomes infinitely more toxic when the threat doesn't even have a deadline.
- 6:40Adrian: Oh yeah.
- 6:40Adrian: This is a big one.
- 6:41Sarah: When the threat is entirely in our imagination, we encounter the second category, which is anticipation stressors.
- 6:48Adrian: And this is where our evolutionary hardware really clashes with our modern environment.
- 6:52Sarah: So anticipation stressors target those who constantly worry about future events, just anticipating failure or absolute disaster.
- 7:00Sarah: Now, we are biologically wired to look out for predators on the horizon, right?
- 7:05Sarah: A healthy dose of foresight kept our ancestors alive.
- 7:08Sarah: But the friction here, the reason this becomes a toxic end stressor, is that modern threats are rarely lions in the brush.
- 7:14Adrian: Right.
- 7:15Adrian: And if we connect this to the bigger picture, the text provides a crucial insight on this exact point.
- 7:20Adrian: Anticipation stressors specifically arise and paralyze us when the future event we are focused on is vague and undefined.
- 7:28Sarah: Vague and undefined, like agonizing over a potential economic downturn next year or worrying generally about the trajectory of a relationship.
- 7:37Adrian: Exactly.
- 7:38Adrian: The human brain is essentially a prediction machine.
- 7:40Adrian: It constantly runs calculations on risk and reward to figure out how much energy to expend.
- 7:45Sarah: Okay.
- 7:46Adrian: But when a threat lacks parameters, when it's just this vague cloud of like, what if the economy crashes?
- 7:52Adrian: The brain cannot calculate the risk.
- 7:55Adrian: Because it lacks data, it just assumes the threat is infinite.
- 7:58Adrian: It substitutes fear for information.
- 8:00Sarah: Wow.
- 8:00Sarah: And Moulton points out that this tendency to catastrophize a vague future actually stems from a hidden lack of confidence in our own ability to deal with it.
- 8:10Speaker: Yes.
- 8:11Sarah: Like the core end stress isn't just the economy might be bad.
- 8:14Sarah: The core stress is the underlying belief of I am not resourceful enough to survive if the economy goes bad.
- 8:20Adrian: That's the real issue.
- 8:21Adrian: The vague nature of the threat acts as an amplifier for your internal doubt.
- 8:25Adrian: You can't prepare for a fog, so you just sit in the fog feeling helpless and your self-esteem plummets.
- 8:29Sarah: Which makes Moulton's remedy so effective because it's a structural intervention.
- 8:34Sarah: He suggests analyzing all of the possible outcomes and literally making contingency plans for each one.
- 8:41Adrian: It's so practical.
- 8:42Sarah: Yeah, by forcing yourself to write down like, what are the actual literal outcomes that could happen if my department faces cuts.
- 8:50Sarah: You give the shadow a shape.
- 8:52Adrian: You provide the brain with the parameters it was begging for.
- 8:56Sarah: Right.
- 8:56Sarah: Once the shadow has a shape, you can deal with it.
- 8:58Sarah: Outcome A means I update my resume.
- 9:00Sarah: Outcome B means I leverage my network in a different industry.
- 9:04Sarah: The vague fog clears and you restore your confidence because you literally prove to yourself that you have a functional response for the worst case scenario.
- 9:13Adrian: It physically shifts your brain's default state.
- 9:15Sarah: Yeah, from what if to then what.
- 9:17Adrian: And then what is an actionable state?
- 9:19Adrian: It moves you out of the emotional center of the brain and back into the executive problem-solving center.
- 9:25Sarah: Okay, so that is how we torture ourselves with the future.
- 9:27Sarah: But sometimes the chaos isn't a vague shadow on the horizon.
- 9:30Sarah: Sometimes it's happening right here, right now, completely out of our hands.
- 9:34Sarah: Which brings us to the third category, the situational stressor.
- 9:39Adrian: And given the sheer density of decisions we make in our 2047 highly visible lives, I mean, we are all incredibly susceptible to this one.
- 9:47Sarah: Oh, totally.
- 9:48Sarah: Situational stressors hit when you realize you have absolutely zero control over a present situation or event.
- 9:55Sarah: The prime examples are those deeply visceral moments.
- 9:58Sarah: Making a public mistake, looking foolish, being utterly embarrassed in front of colleagues.
- 10:03Adrian: It's the worst feeling.
- 10:05Sarah: It's the moment the crucial presentation crashes on the projector while the entire board of directors is watching, or, you know, when you hit reply all to a sensitive email that you definitely shouldn't have.
- 10:15Adrian: Oh man, the reply-all time just stops, right?
- 10:18Adrian: The event is happening, the data is out there, and you have zero agency to undo it.
- 10:22Sarah: And the biological mismatch here is stunning.
- 10:24Sarah: When that reply all email goes out, your body doesn't know you're just sitting in a safe, temperature-controlled office.
- 10:30Sarah: No, not at all.
- 10:30Sarah: Your stomach drops, your heart rate spikes, your face flushes, your body dumps the exact same adrenaline and cortisol into your bloodstream as it would if you were being cased by a predator.
- 10:42Adrian: Which is an entirely inappropriate physical response for social faux pas.
- 10:46Adrian: But because we can't control the external situation, the only variable left to manage is that intense internal reaction.
- 10:53Adrian: Right.
- 10:54Adrian: Moulton emphasizes that navigating situational stressors requires becoming acutely aware of the automatic physical, mental, and emotional signals your body sends out.
- 11:04Sarah: Those physical symptoms, the racing heart, the shallow breathing, the hot face, they operate exactly like the dashboard warning lights on a car.
- 11:13Adrian: That's a great way to look at it.
- 11:15Sarah: Yeah, you can't stop a car engine from overheating just by gripping the steering wheel tighter and wishing it wouldn't.
- 11:20Sarah: The engine is doing what it's doing.
- 11:22Sarah: But if you recognize the little red thermometer warning light on your dashboard, you can pull the car over before the engine completely destroys itself.
- 11:30Adrian: And yet our instinct is usually the exact opposite.
- 11:33Adrian: Instead of reading the data as a helpful warning, we panic about the data.
- 11:36Adrian: Oh duh.
- 11:37Adrian: We feel our face getting hot because we made a mistake.
- 11:40Adrian: And then we get stressed that people can see our face getting hot, which makes us more embarrassed, which makes the physical symptoms worse.
- 11:47Adrian: We literally let the warning light cause a catastrophic crash.
- 11:51Sarah: But by becoming the observer of your own reactions, you intercept that feedback loop.
- 11:56Sarah: You feel the heat in your face and you label it.
- 11:58Sarah: You say, Ah, my body's having an automatic stress response to looking foolish.
- 12:03Adrian: Yes, exactly.
- 12:04Sarah: And just the act of labeling it creates a microsecond of distance between the stimulus and your reaction.
- 12:10Sarah: It allows you to pull the car over, you take a breath, you acknowledge the projector is broken calmly, and you pivot.
- 12:15Sarah: You take back the narrative control that the situation tried to steal from you.
- 12:19Adrian: Because you cannot dictate the circumstances of the present moment, but you retain absolute authority over your position within it.
- 12:26Sarah: That's so powerful.
- 12:27Sarah: And speaking of circumstances in the present moment, often the most unpredictable, volatile variables in our environment aren't failing projectors or reply-all emails.
- 12:36Sarah: It's the people sitting in the chairs next to us.
- 12:39Adrian: The human variable.
- 12:40Adrian: It defies logic and preparation entirely.
- 12:43Sarah: Which introduces the final boss of end stressors and counter stressors.
- 12:48Sarah: This targets the anxiety we feel about interacting with certain individuals or groups who are inherently unpredictable or difficult.
- 12:56Adrian: Oh, we all know someone like this.
- 12:57Sarah: Oh, yeah.
- 12:57Sarah: Think about your own phone right now.
- 12:59Adrian: Yeah.
- 12:59Sarah: You probably have at least one name in your contacts where if they texted you this very second, your heart rate would elevate before you even read the message.
- 13:07Adrian: Right.
- 13:07Adrian: The encounter stressor is at work before the encounter even begins.
- 13:11Sarah: And Moulton uses this brilliant phrase to describe the mechanism of this stress.
- 13:15Sarah: He calls it contact overload.
- 13:17Sarah: This occurs when you are involved with people who are themselves severely stressed, and their anxiety is so pervasive that it bleeds into your ecosystem.
- 13:26Adrian: And this is grounded in the very real phenomenon of emotional contagion.
- 13:30Adrian: Humans are highly empathetic creatures, biologically speaking.
- 13:34Adrian: We possess mirror neurons that constantly scan and mimic the physiological states of the people around us.
- 13:41Adrian: If someone walks into a meeting room, pacing frantically, breathing heavily, speaking in clipped sentences, your own nervous system will unconsciously begin to match their cadence.
- 13:51Sarah: Wow.
- 13:52Sarah: Which sounds like we're just absorbing their panic.
- 13:55Sarah: We become collateral damage to their lack of coping skills.
- 13:58Sarah: We literally catch their stress like a highly contagious virus.
- 14:03Adrian: Countering contact overload doesn't mean hiding from human interaction, though.
- 14:07Adrian: But it does require implementing a sort of psychological airlock.
- 14:11Sarah: A psychological airlock.
- 14:13Sarah: I like that.
- 14:13Adrian: Yeah, if you think about how a submarine deals with a breach, it doesn't just let the water rush through the whole ship.
- 14:18Adrian: It seals the compartments.
- 14:20Adrian: Right.
- 14:20Adrian: Moulton argues that creating that seal requires a high degree of emotional intelligence.
- 14:25Adrian: And this raises an important question, you know, how well do we actually know what we need?
- 14:30Adrian: Because specifically, it's about the ability to properly identify your own wants and needs alongside the wants and needs of others.
- 14:37Sarah: Establishing competing needs as a structural boundary.
- 14:40Sarah: So if I have to interact with that highly stressed, chaotic colleague, my encounter stressor kicks in because I feel vulnerable to being swept up in their storm.
- 14:51Sarah: Yes.
- 14:51Sarah: But if I use that psychological airlock, I can walk into the interaction and clearly define the parameters.
- 14:57Sarah: Like, my need right now is to get this one document approved quickly.
- 15:01Sarah: Their need right now seems to be venting about their massive workload and feeling validated in their panic.
- 15:08Adrian: Exactly.
- 15:08Adrian: And once you map out those competing needs, the encounter loses its volatility.
- 15:13Adrian: You are no longer a victim of their unpredictable behavior because you've defined the rules of engagement.
- 15:19Sarah: Right.
- 15:19Adrian: You can acknowledge their need.
- 15:20Adrian: Like I see you're completely swamped today and under a lot of pressure while firmly protecting your own need.
- 15:26Adrian: So I will just leave this document here for you to review when you have a quiet moment.
- 15:30Sarah: You seal the compartment, you don't try to fix their stress, and you don't allow their stress to dictate your heart rate.
- 15:35Sarah: It's a powerful reframing because the goal isn't to change the difficult person.
- 15:40Sarah: The goal is to be profoundly secure in what you need from the encounter.
- 15:45Adrian: It is the ultimate defense against the human variable.
- 15:48Sarah: So what does this all mean?
- 15:50Sarah: We've journeyed through this whole architecture of anxiety.
- 15:53Sarah: We looked at the time stressor where we manufacture panic by fighting the literal clock and building elaborate escape plans.
- 16:00Sarah: Right.
- 16:00Sarah: We examine the anticipation stressor, where we let the vague, undefined fog of the future paralyze our confidence.
- 16:08Sarah: We explored the situational stressor where we fail to read our body's dashboard warning lights during moments of lost control.
- 16:14Sarah: Yep.
- 16:15Sarah: And finally the encounter stressor, where we absorb the emotional contagion of unpredictable people.
- 16:20Adrian: And when you lay all four out side by side, the underlying pattern is pretty undeniable.
- 16:25Adrian: The source material actually anchors this entire framework in a piece of ancient wisdom from the Stoic philosopher Epictetus.
- 16:32Sarah: Oh wow.
- 16:33Sarah: Okay.
- 16:34Adrian: And it's remarkable how seamlessly a voice from nearly two millennia ago perfectly encapsulates this modern psychological reality.
- 16:43Adrian: Epictetus observed, we are disturbed not by events, but by the views that we take of them.
- 16:50Sarah: Not by events, but by the views that we take of them.
- 16:52Sarah: That completely validates that initial jarring provocation we started with.
- 16:57Sarah: We truly are the sole perpetrators of our stressed out lives.
- 17:01Adrian: We are.
- 17:01Sarah: The deadline is literally just a date printed on a calendar.
- 17:04Sarah: The failing projector is just a bulb burning out.
- 17:07Sarah: The grumpy colleague is just another human struggling to cope.
- 17:10Adrian: Exactly.
- 17:11Adrian: The view we take of those events like the belief that the missed deadline makes us a failure, or that the colleague's bad mood is a threat to our safety, that is the end stressor.
- 17:20Sarah: Right.
- 17:21Adrian: That is the view that disturbs us and is how we interpret, and crucially, how we choose to respond to the raw data of the world that dictates our reality.
- 17:29Sarah: Which brings us full circle to our home security system.
- 17:31Sarah: The reason the intruder is already sitting on the couch is because we unlocked the door, opened it wide, and invited them in.
- 17:37Adrian: We really did.
- 17:38Sarah: We spent all our energy arming the alarm against the outside world, completely ignoring that the threat was being generated by our own perceptions.
- 17:46Adrian: Because recognizing that you are the architect of the stress is the only way you can begin the work of dismantling it.
- 17:54Sarah: So I want to leave you with a final thought to mull over as you navigate the rest of your week.
- 17:58Sarah: Think about the single biggest source of friction or anxiety in your life right this minute.
- 18:03Sarah: Picture it clearly in your mind.
- 18:05Sarah: Now ask yourself, are you fighting the actual literal event?
- 18:10Sarah: Or are you just exhausting yourself fighting your own view of it?
- 18:13Sarah: If you manage to fundamentally change your interpretation of that situation today, would the event even matter tomorrow?
- 18:20Adrian: That is the question that changes everything.
- 18:22Sarah: Thank you for joining us for this deep dive.
- 18:24Sarah: Keep questioning your perceptions, keep your psychological airlocks secure, and keep an eye out for those end stressors.
- 18:30Sarah: We will catch you next time.
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