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125. Love Jean Grey! (Marvel Zombies: Red Band) · The Book-Watchers

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  Speaker 2: So today's episode, it's gonna be a me episode. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the rabbit hole of Marvel again because it's me, because
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  Speaker 2: of course, duh, of course, because of course. Now this
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  Speaker 2: one I'm talking about today is Marvel Zombies. I'm talking
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  Speaker 2: about the Red Band release that was released back in
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  Speaker 2: September seventeen, twenty twenty five, and then it finished out
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  Speaker 2: in January twenty eighth, twenty twenty six. Is a five
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  Speaker 2: issue mini series and it is written by Ethan S.
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  Speaker 2: Parker and Griffin uh Treaton Shredon, and of course the
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  Speaker 2: art is by Jan Bazzid. DOA's Dot's do, let's do?
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  Speaker 1: Do you have me the name and I can probably
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  Speaker 1: pronounce I'll pronounce it.
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  Speaker 2: I know it's a Latin name, but I think it's
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  Speaker 2: a do or something like that. Ship Hold up, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I will send to you right now.
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  Speaker 1: Discord discord.
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  Speaker 2: Yep I was right, Okay, cool, he did the art
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  Speaker 2: for it. So this series is a what if scenario.
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  Speaker 2: It's not it does not have in correlation to the
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  Speaker 2: other Marvel Zombies series because there's like five or six.
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  Speaker 2: Actually there's a lot of Marvel Zombies. So this is
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  Speaker 2: its own, separate thing from the mains from the Marvel Zombies.
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  Speaker 2: This takes place in a what if scenario where basically
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  Speaker 2: it's like the the aesthetic is given the sixties, old
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  Speaker 2: sixties Marvel, the Fantastic Four, the Original Avengers, fucking X Men,
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  Speaker 2: all that. So this takes place. It starts off with
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  Speaker 2: the Fantastic Four going off into space and this is
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  Speaker 2: during their this is their origin story. So they're going
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  Speaker 2: off in the space unauthorized because they decided to go
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  Speaker 2: out in the space on their own without permission and
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  Speaker 2: they were exposed to the cosmic rays, which in the
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  Speaker 2: original origin story the Fantastic Four is how they get
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  Speaker 2: their powers from the cosmic rays when they took this
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  Speaker 2: unauthorized space flight into space. But this time around, in
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  Speaker 2: this in this what if, they get their superpowers, but
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  Speaker 2: that's not the only thing they that changes them. They
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  Speaker 2: come back as zombies. Oh, they have their they have
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  Speaker 2: their powers, but they come back as zombies and you're like, huh,
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  Speaker 2: so they reached. Upon returning to Earth, the Four the
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  Speaker 2: fours hunger for human flesh urges them to attack the
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  Speaker 2: population of New York City, either devouring or infecting people.
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  Speaker 2: The Four are I think it's called I think they're
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  Speaker 2: called the Frightful, the Frightful Four. I think that's what
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  Speaker 2: their name is. So the Four are confronted by the
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  Speaker 2: group of superheroes consisting of Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, and Daredevil.
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  Speaker 2: They fight. Now they all die, well, majority of them die.
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  Speaker 2: So the Thor's death because this is Thor back in
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  Speaker 2: the sixties, for those of you who don't know, Thor
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  Speaker 2: back in the sixties had a human persona. He went
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  Speaker 2: by a let me say, I can find it.
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  Speaker 3: It was like a doctor and he was a doctor,
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  Speaker 3: which was cool because like it wasn't just like Thor
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  Speaker 3: disguised as a guy pretending to be a doctor, you know,
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  Speaker 3: when he disguised himself, he was actually like a real doctor.
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  Speaker 3: Like there was a point where like someone got hurt
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  Speaker 3: and Thor was like, well, Thor may not be able
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  Speaker 3: to render aid, but then.
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  Speaker 1: He like uses he like threw like me on your down.
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  Speaker 3: Lightning struck him and transformed him into a doctor, and
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  Speaker 3: he's like but doctor like, yeah, Donald Blake can Donald Blake.
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  Speaker 2: So Donald Blake.
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  Speaker 3: Even goes from talking like in Thor speak, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like with the whole navy like hull, like Valorie type,
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  Speaker 3: like Ranastonian cell.
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  Speaker 2: It's basically like he Man, Yeah, Marvel's he Man back
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  Speaker 2: in the day before Thor was just Thor all the time.
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  Speaker 2: So what miss uh? So sus Stone is the one
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  Speaker 2: that killed Thor. He separated his hammer from him. His
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  Speaker 2: hammer in this normal form takes the form of a
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  Speaker 2: it's either a cane or umbrella. I think he's a
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  Speaker 2: kid's umbrella umbrella. And so Sustorm separates him from his
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  Speaker 2: hammer and basically puts him into like a little orb
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  Speaker 2: like her little force field orb and squishes himuntil he
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  Speaker 2: bursts into blood and guts and gore. So okay, So
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  Speaker 2: Sustorm takes the takes the umbrella, the hammer away from four,
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  Speaker 2: puts Thorn a bubble, shrinks the bubble down and crushes him.
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  Speaker 3: He was still in his human form, so he couldn't
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  Speaker 3: like he didn't have any of his strength or his
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  Speaker 3: his in vulnerability.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he killed like and it's gory. It's it's disgusting,
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  Speaker 2: and you're like, oh my god, girl work. We love
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  Speaker 2: queen with a hobby. So she kills Thor, causing both
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  Speaker 2: sides to retreat. After that, they're like, oh fuck, and
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  Speaker 2: then the four decide to form yeah, the former team
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  Speaker 2: Johnny dubs a Frightful Four. Meanwhile, the zombies rampage leaves
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  Speaker 2: teenager Peter Parker, who is secretly of course, Spider Man
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  Speaker 2: paraly is in fear and unable to use the superpowers
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  Speaker 2: to save his aunt and uncle as they are devoured
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  Speaker 2: from zombies by zombies.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So from there, consumed by guilt, Peter understands what power
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  Speaker 2: comes great responsibility and that's where that's this is where
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  Speaker 2: he gets that phrase was because of the zombie Yeah envision.
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  Speaker 1: Hey real quick, Uh, we're not recording video for this episode, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm still listening. I just need to grab get up
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  Speaker 1: and grab something, Okay, go for it. Keep talking.
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  Speaker 2: So from there, we jump to outer space and we
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  Speaker 2: see the Silver Surfer as he's flying around the stars,
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  Speaker 2: but then he notices that there is no stars around him.
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  Speaker 2: Space is starless and it's like hello, Hello, He's just
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  Speaker 2: in the void of space and there's no stars. Then
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  Speaker 2: we jump to Professor Xavier School for the Gifted Youngsters
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  Speaker 2: you know the X Men, And this is where we
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  Speaker 2: jump to Jean Gray's first day at the school. She's
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  Speaker 2: agreed by, of course, Charles Xavier and the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the student body composed of Scott Summers, Hank McCoy, Warren
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  Speaker 2: Warren and Bobby you know the drill for Gt. Cyclops, Beasts,
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  Speaker 2: Angel and Iceman. So that night, as Jean Gray is
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  Speaker 2: getting used to being at the school, first night, she
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  Speaker 2: has a dream of being intact by zombies, a zombie
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  Speaker 2: version of the X Men, and then she wakes up
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  Speaker 2: to being face to face with Scott Summers, who has
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  Speaker 2: turned to a zombie and is trying to eat her,
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  Speaker 2: and she's like, I don't want to do this, Please
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  Speaker 2: don't make me do this, and she kills them, of course,
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  Speaker 2: in self defense, and she finds the rest of the
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  Speaker 2: school empty and in ruins. And then sometime later, Jean
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  Speaker 2: has been using her mutant abilities as a mask as
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  Speaker 2: a mass mavigilante to fight Zombi and help survivors on
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  Speaker 2: the zombie ravaged Earth. She has the Miss Marvel not
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  Speaker 2: Miss Marvel, Marvel Girl, the Marvel Girl outfit, the Marvel
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  Speaker 2: Girl icon of Green outfit. She has that. So she's
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  Speaker 2: going around with that, and of course she's been. She
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  Speaker 2: joins with fellow vigilante Spider Man and Jewel. Now those
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  Speaker 2: of you don't know who Jewel is. That's Jessica Jones.
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  Speaker 2: What that was her superhero name before she became Jessica Jones.
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  Speaker 2: That we know this is before the Purple Man, pre
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  Speaker 2: Purple Man, because she drops the Jewel name after the
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  Speaker 2: Purple Man incident or the buffoonery that was the Purple Man.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So it was those three Peter Parker, Jessica Jones, and
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  Speaker 2: Jean Gray basically them versus against the zombi fide world
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  Speaker 2: along with the Avengers, Ironman, Daredevil, Captain America she Hulkes,
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  Speaker 2: Doctor Octopus, and Ultron. Yeah are so they are all
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  Speaker 2: teleported to an unseen near omnipotent entity called the Beyonder,
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  Speaker 2: and the Beyonder in this story uh to the planet.
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  Speaker 2: They were transported to. The planet Beyonder calls a battle world,
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  Speaker 2: which is it's a reference to Secret the original Secret Wars. There,
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  Speaker 2: the Beyonder pits them against a group of superpower zombies
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  Speaker 2: consisting of the Frightful Four, the now infected Hulk, Doctor Doom, Hawkeye, Hobgoblin,
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  Speaker 2: and the Enforcers, which is Fancy Dane, Montana, and Ox,
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  Speaker 2: which are characters you don't even to worry about. So
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  Speaker 2: throughout the battle, Johnny and Hobgoblin and the Enforcers were killed,
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  Speaker 2: while Daredevil and Jean were infected. Then when everyone come
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  Speaker 2: when the Adventures come back and they realized Jane's infected,
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  Speaker 2: Jane dies, but she ends up getting powered by the
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  Speaker 2: Phoenix Force. So now we have a zombia fide Phoenix
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  Speaker 2: and she infects Captain America and Iron Man, while Spider Man, Jewel,
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  Speaker 2: Doctor Octavius all mass to escape and Sam with Ultron.
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  Speaker 2: So Jane dies, comes back as a zombie is the
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  Speaker 2: Phoenix and she's like ah and she's she fucks them
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  Speaker 2: all up, and I'm like, damn, damn, get it, Queen,
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  Speaker 2: get a girl. So from that, uh, because at that
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  Speaker 2: point you're like, well they're fucked. Oh yeah, you're they're fucked.
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  Speaker 2: So they escape to basically with Doctor Strange with Wong
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  Speaker 2: Strange is an astral projection while his body is a zombie.
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  Speaker 2: A Silver Server crashes into the Satan Centaurums saying that
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  Speaker 2: the stars are all gone, pulling it a cancer that
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  Speaker 2: is eating in the cosmos. Then the Silver Serf, for
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  Speaker 2: and Strange go to a Thanos. They try to visit
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  Speaker 2: the Elders of the Universe to start gathering the stones,
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  Speaker 2: but the Fantastic the Frightful Four got to them first
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  Speaker 2: and killed them. Jumped to Jewel Spider Man and the
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  Speaker 2: Spider Man in his but in the Black Suit aka Venom,
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  Speaker 2: and we see that the zombies are connected to the
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  Speaker 2: Void aka Nole, So Nole's a zombie now Thannels turns
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  Speaker 2: into a zombie unfortunately, and we see that Deadpool is
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  Speaker 2: now was turned into a zombie as well as he
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  Speaker 2: was getting alive by them. So then we cut to
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  Speaker 2: Octavia's Jewel, Spider Man and Ultron, joined by the New
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  Speaker 2: Avengers which is like the Iron Fist, a female Iron Fist,
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  Speaker 2: Magic Black Panther, Wolverine and the Astro Doctor Strange, And
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  Speaker 2: of course, as the story goes on, everyone eventually turns
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  Speaker 2: into zombies except for Peter. It's just him and Ultron
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  Speaker 2: versus Nol zombifid Nol comes to earth, he is literally
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  Speaker 2: on the verge of winning because by this point, Jean
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  Speaker 2: Gray is also dead and we all know what happens
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  Speaker 2: when the phoenix dies, right, we all know what happens
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  Speaker 2: when the phoenix dies. Yeah, girl, I am dead for
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  Speaker 2: too long, so at the end of the story, you
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  Speaker 2: can't keep a bad bitch down. So as the stories
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  Speaker 2: come into a close and Knowles about killed everybody because
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  Speaker 2: Peter's the only one left, jing Gray comes out of
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  Speaker 2: nowhere and kills Nol with the most iconic line. It
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  Speaker 2: says high virus meet the fever, and she basically bursts
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  Speaker 2: him into flames and kills off a bunch of the zombies,
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  Speaker 2: and Jean Gray is back, not infected anymore. So when
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  Speaker 2: she died and was resurrected, is resurrected without the infection.
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  Speaker 2: So we end the story of the with a between
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  Speaker 2: Gene and Peter as Peter is happy that she's still
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  Speaker 2: alive and that the world's still around, but of course
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  Speaker 2: everyone's zombie. Everyone turned into zombies, but they feel there's
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  Speaker 2: a way to undo everything by using the Phoenix force,
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  Speaker 2: so it just leaves off with them kind of be
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  Speaker 2: like kind of be like, oh my god, we could
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  Speaker 2: take on the world together. And I'm like, Peter X
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  Speaker 2: Gene what I dig it? So Gene and Peter are
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  Speaker 2: the only ones on the planet and they have the
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  Speaker 2: one thing at their disposal that could possibly save save
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  Speaker 2: the universe by using the Phoenix Force to potentially undo
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  Speaker 2: the infections. It doesn't show, it doesn't show you how
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  Speaker 2: they do it. It just leaves on that cliffhanger. I
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  Speaker 2: hope they come back to it because I want to
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  Speaker 2: see how they do it, how they use the Phoenix
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  Speaker 2: Force to undo it all under the infection, because I mean,
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  Speaker 2: if Jean Ray can die and come back, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: get someone else the fan it force kill them, they'll
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  Speaker 2: come back. H Yeah, that is the story. That's Marvel Zombies.
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  Speaker 2: The Red Band comics. Red Band Comics are for those
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  Speaker 2: of you who don't know a brand a a what
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  Speaker 2: do they call it? Not brand A line of comics
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  Speaker 2: the Marvel creates that are more. They are for mature audiences.
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  Speaker 2: Lots of blood, lots of core, et cetera. And you
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  Speaker 2: don't really find you won't really find those online on
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  Speaker 2: like on like Amazons, you really can't get them on
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  Speaker 2: Kindle or Marvel Unlimited. Unfortunately, you can only get them
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  Speaker 2: in physical copies because of the mature reading. But I
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  Speaker 2: don't really love this series. I never really was that
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  Speaker 2: big of a fan of the Marvel zombie stuff outside
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  Speaker 2: of like the Marvel animated series the West series that
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  Speaker 2: was good, but as far as the comics, I wasn't
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  Speaker 2: really not that big of a fan of the Marvel
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  Speaker 2: Marvel Zombies, but this one, I was like, Oh, Marvel
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  Speaker 2: sixty in like the sixties style. Okay, I'm down, I'm in,
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  Speaker 2: I'm locked in, and Gene, I'm locked in the fuck.
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  Speaker 2: Jean Gray is the Phoenix and the zombie. I'm I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's kind of funny actually because y'all can't
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  Speaker 2: see it, but I have a zombie fie. Jean Gray
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  Speaker 2: as a phoenix a little yeah, because in the Marvel Zombies,
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  Speaker 2: she becomes the Phoenix and she's a zombie, but she doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think she reverts back though, because they I
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  Speaker 2: don't think they're able to kill her obviously.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but.
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  Speaker 2: I love that Gene, and this is teenage Gene too.
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  Speaker 2: She becomes the Phoenix way earlier than she should. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but no, that's that's Marvel Zombies, Red Band love It.
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  Speaker 3: I want to point something out, like, so Gene so
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  Speaker 3: Jeene Gray is is known. She's basically and forgive me
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  Speaker 3: Marvel fans for saying this, she's basically the Kenny of
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  Speaker 3: the Marvel universe because she keeps dying and coming back
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  Speaker 3: and and you can be mad all you want, but
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  Speaker 3: you know it's true. Well, how many like with how
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  Speaker 3: many times that bitch has died like and come back
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  Speaker 3: to life? All right, you know I'm telling the truth.
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  Speaker 3: But I want to point something out too, Like I've
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  Speaker 3: noticed that in the Marvel Universe when it comes to mutants,
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  Speaker 3: when it comes to Omega like Omega class mutants, the
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  Speaker 3: most ominabilities that the Omega class mutants have is telepathy
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  Speaker 3: and telekinesis most of the like if you will him up,
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  Speaker 3: a good majority of Omega class mutants are psychics, right, Gray,
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  Speaker 3: Charles Xavier Silock, Professor.
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  Speaker 1: Xavier wait Is Xavier and Omega.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, he's an Omega telepaths.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, some reason with some Rebro with ce Rebro, he is,
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  Speaker 2: But I don't think he is.
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  Speaker 3: Was just every time I look him up, like, like,
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  Speaker 3: do some research research on him. It says that he's
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  Speaker 3: an Omega level telepath.
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  Speaker 1: Like he's the strongest path, he's a strong cellpath in
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  Speaker 1: the world. But okay, that's aside the point. Aside from them,
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  Speaker 1: there's Exodus, who was a mutant trained by Acalypse.
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  Speaker 2: You're right, he is, he is, You're right, You're right continued, And.
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  Speaker 3: Then there's Cassandra Nova, and then there's also there's also
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  Speaker 3: Omega kid uh I got his name, but he read
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  Speaker 3: his actual name. But he's that pink haired little fucker.
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  Speaker 3: And the funny thing is is that next to Jeen Gray,
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  Speaker 3: Omega Kid dies a lot if you watch, if you
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  Speaker 3: read the Krakoa series, he keeps dying and gets resurrected.
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  Speaker 1: But even before Krakoa, like he died a lot. But
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  Speaker 1: the thing is, his.
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  Speaker 4: Consciousness was so advanced that even when he would die,
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  Speaker 4: he would just simply convert himself into a being of
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  Speaker 4: psychic energy and for the most part to stay in
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  Speaker 4: that state, like can't be bothered with you peasants anymore.
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  Speaker 4: And then like if like occasionally he'll recon he'll just
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  Speaker 4: rebuild his physical form and just will himself back to life.
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  Speaker 4: Hell Legion is also an omega level psychic, though it's
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  Speaker 4: there's a lot of debate on what his abilities are
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  Speaker 4: and like it's he can warp reality, right, but and
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  Speaker 4: some people think it's because he can warp reality, that's
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  Speaker 4: why he's able to transform himself into different mutants or
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  Speaker 4: to different people with different abilities. And it's not that
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  Speaker 4: he's act that's that's not his actual power. It's just
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  Speaker 4: he's warping reality and willing real willing it. So so
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  Speaker 4: like there's a lot like but a lot of these
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  Speaker 4: omega level psychics are pretty much all like Jean Gray
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  Speaker 4: in that they die, but they don't stay dead all right,
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  Speaker 4: Like their consciousness are so advanced that they can exist,
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  Speaker 4: they can continue, they can live on without the without
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: a body like Jean Gray has done it, like even.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Without the Phoenix force gene.
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: Actually like she died and she just rebuilt her She
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: just like like reformed her body like just from the
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: cell like rebuilt it from the cellular structure all the
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: way up to like a full form.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: And after that she was like, am I human anymore?
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Am I even human?
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: What am I?
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: Like?
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: That that Colcene made her like think, like question herself.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, I mean Gene's not. Gene is the phoenix
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: once and always, she has always been the phoenix. She
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: is the phoenix, She's the essence of everything. The phoenix
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: and her are one and the same. So there's the
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: whole Phoenix forces. It's just basically another side of her.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: As far as the telepaths and the Omega psychics and stuff,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, Quentin prior, he dies a lot, comes back. Hey,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Quentin wish she would stay dead? Yeah, acquire, Yeah, Quentin
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Choir that fucking twat uh Yeah, yeah, they got There's
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: a lot of psychics out there. That seems to be
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: the common thread of a lot of the mutants. Emma
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Frost has psychic ability. She's not as strong as the others,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: but yeah, she's up there. Same with the Stepford Cuckoos.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Yes, the thing about the Stepford Cuckoos is that they're
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: all they're all telepathic, but they I think they're individually
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: just like alpha level telepaths. They're not Omega level.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Well they're not, no, no, no, none of them are Omega level.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: But when you put them all, but when you put
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: them all together that they're probably the closest they'll ever
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: get to that, yeah, which fun. In fact, except for
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Cuckoo's mother is of course Emma Frost because she was
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: they were calling from her. But theory goes their father.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: The DNA that they were that they used to use
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: the eggs that they harvested from Emma, unfortunately, was Steve Rogers,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: so supposedly rumor has its little speculation, but people are
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: kind of speculating because this is wepon X and of
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: course Weapon one was Captain America. So their running theory
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: amongst the fan base is except for Cuckoo's father is
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Steve Rogers, which makes sense because he's also blonde, so
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: that wouldn't be that surprising. But nonetheless, yeah, Jean Gray
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: is the big cheese of them all period, no one.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: No one can out beat her in the psych a game.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: And yeah, you can't kill that bitch. I mean, last
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: like what years she died. She's died like twice I
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: can think of, no, three times, three times maybe more
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: because the Kacoa she can just die and then they'll
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: just resurrect her. So and then of course she died.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: She died at the end of Krakoa, came back as
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: the Phoenix and then within like the first issue or
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: two of the Phoenix series ongoing. She died in that
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: and then was born from that. So she's died at
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: least three or four times in the last five years. Yeah,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: and love her to death, but god, girl, stop dying.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I hope.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: And when they start bringing in all these mutants in
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: the MCU, I hope they really capture like that raw
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: power that they have because they kind of they did
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: they did what they kind of did that with Cassandra Nova, Like, girl,
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: I loved her.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: I love this.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: I loved her messy, uh crazy, that shit crazy. I
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: love I thought it was especially hilarious when she had
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: her fingers up in that uh in that one uh
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: TVA agent Yeah uh And when she pulled out, she
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: was like glad to be out of there, very messy
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: in there.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I love it.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Like the fact that that shit crazy woman like Cassandra
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Nova is saying that your head like she's like had
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: to like she was like like ready to get out
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: of that dude's head, like like, oh God, you got issues, dude.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Like the fact that she's saying.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: That to you, there's something wrong with you because she's
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: already that shit crazy. But the fact but you actively
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: repulsed her, like whatever she's on your head repulsed her,
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: dude something.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: And for those of you don't know, a little backstory
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: on Santra Nova, she is the She is the twin
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: of Charles Xavier that he killed in the womb. But
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: then she came back. She not somehow comics. Due to comics,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: she came back. She basically kind of like resurrected herself.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: It's a weird. It's weird.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like she's actually also some sort of like parasite.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Like she actual parasite. It's weird.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So so she's not really humans, so don't feel
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: too bad about it.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, but she, I mean like her like her
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: human host.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Like the baby that the parasite itself took over was human.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: But I think like because the.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Parasite took it over as a as an infant, like
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: when they were still in utero, I think that's what
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: like like it just completely overwrote rode whatever that child
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: would have become, like like whoever that person would have become,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: So that child was like gone before it even existed.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's just a parasite of body. Twins sister would
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: be a parasite of course.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I like the way that they represented her,
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: like because just the fact that like she just waves
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: in or like like because that's what a lot of
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: these psychic like really powerful mega mutants were, like, like
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: omega psychic mutants were like like you could barely hurt them.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: They could just go send you flying through a brick wall,
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: all right, they don't really they like a lot of
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: like the Marvel movies that have had psychics like that,
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: aside from the Scarlet Witch. But we can't really count
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: her because like she's in a whole other category of
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: her own, but like at least in the MCU. But
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: like when it came to the old X Men movies,
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: when like Jean Gray was like before she became the
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: Dark Phoenix, like we never really see her like do that.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: She would like maybe like catch somebody and throw them
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: across the room, but we never actually saw her like
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: go all out like she like.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: You know Jean Gray of the comics.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: But then like she becomes this Phoenix and then like
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: even then as the Phoenix.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: It's like compared to what she could do in.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: The comics, Yeah, she's just very She's just like grinding
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: people into dust. That's all she's doing, and we would
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: have seen something like that with her going all out
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: in the Dark Phoenix. But because Dark Phoenix was released
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: during around the same time that Captain Marvele was released,
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: both movies were being filmed like they had similar plots
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: because they were there was gonna that was gonna end
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: with a.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Big space battle and Dark Phoenix.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: The producers of Dark Phoenix, they didn't want to make
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: the like a carbon copy of basically a carbon copy
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: of Marvel, so they reshot it and then we got
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: what we got with Dark Phoenix is what we got,
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: which I think really killed the movie and killed the
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: x the future of the X Men franchise for a
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: good while because then because we're not seeing the X
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Men until again until Avengers Doomsday, and even then we're
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: not gonna see them again until like many like, we're
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: probably not gonna see them in their own standalone film
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: for many years.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Well, the X Men standalone Marvel film. I don't think
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: this won't come out until twenty twenty eight. I think
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be after Secret Wars because after Secret Wars
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: starts the Mutant saga. But yeah, there we do have
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: a small chance. With a mutant showing up in the
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: spier Man film, a.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Lot of people are saying it's Jean Gray.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: People say, this is Jean Gray. It's that's the only
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: person I can think of, because with the trailer, you
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: see that person, you see the person in the green
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: coat that has red hair, green and green and red.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Girl's Jean Gray. But on top of that, she's transferred
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: her conscience, her mind from one person to another. And
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what person can do the only other mutant
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: I can think of, But I don't think she's that
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: powerful to do. That is typhoid Mary. But I don't
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: think that's typhoid Mary. That she's playing the typhoid Mary. Yeah,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: it's a character.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think it's I'm not gonna.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Like I say, I suggest we just like, let's not
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: make any like speculations.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: On who will I will.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: We're gonna be You're gonna be disappointed, Like I'm telling you,
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: Like you keep making these kind of speculation, You're gonna
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: get disappointed and you'd be so mad.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: I thought she would have been better as Jean Great.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: It would have been better, is Jean Great. I don't care.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: I like typhoid Mary too. So if it's either typhoid
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Marry or Gene, that's the only thing I can think
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: of unless they create a new character, which that which
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: is more of a there not.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: I mean there is like there is another character that
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: typically wears green interned in like their costume.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Who Rogue.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: But Rogue doesn't have red hair, though Crue.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: But you know, there are certain characters in the MCU
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: that aren't exactly what they look like in the comics two.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: So I don't think it's wrong.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: You have been gender bet A few of them have
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: had like minor changes like color of their.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Hair, you know, I mean, the hair is pretty accurate
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: on most of the characters. I think making Rogue a
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: redhead would be a bit weird. And you only have
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: the character I can think of that has green and
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: red is like not Banshee what's her name? But she
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: doesn't do that, so that's not her power set, so
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: it wouldn't be her. So my guess is either it's
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: most likely typhoid Mary. But there's still little hope because
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: it's the green, yellow, and red of it all. I'm
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: still a little hoping that's Gane, a little bit a
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: little bit but or could. I mean people thought it
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: was Firestar originally too, but it's like Firestar doesn't have
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: powers like that, She's not psychic or anything like that.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Fire Starter Yeah, fire Star, Firestar.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, Firestar, okaycause.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Have a connection. I mean they were part of the Amazing.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: From She was that one chick that he teamed up with.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: In uhman, I man, yeah yeah.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: Shoot from that old animated show Friends. Yeah.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. People thought it was originally was going to be
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: her until the psychic powers came into play, and people
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: are like.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: What trailer are you guys watching because I don't remember
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: seeing that in the Spider Man trailer.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: In the newest one, there's a person that you see
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: because it's it's it is the it is that character
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: because you seem we've seen behind the scenes images of
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: the actress wearing that same jacket. So you see like
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: a green jacket with a hood up. You don't see
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: her face, but you see the hood up and it
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: looks and it's the exact hood same jacket as the
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: behind the scenes photos, so people know it's her, but
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: you just see her back with the hood up and
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: she's like transferring her mind from one person to another
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: and and there's like weird little action sequence and people
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: are like, who is that? And they're keeping it very
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: hush hush on who it is purposefully. Yeah, So that's
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: why people are like, they're kind of lean towards Jean Gray.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: But it could be Typhoid Mary, which I mean again,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised. It'd be very interesting to see
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Typhoid Mary, cause I don't think she's had a Marvel
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: appearance yet.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: By fair Well, you know what, Uh, we'll just have
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: to wait and see.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but if it's Jean Gray, you're gonna see
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: me in that theater going a girl.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: If we all go together and like we have James
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: with us, I'm pretty sure James is gonna shout.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Shut up.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: As y'all know, as y'all ladies and gentlemen, no out there.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: I'm a very big Jean Gray and Wanda maximav fan
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: he is I am. I'm very I love those two dearly.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Those are my girls, my girls. Also, if you haven't
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: read the Wanda Maximov Sorcerer Supreme Sorcerer's Supreme comic run,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: going on read it. It's good. She is now the
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Sorcerer's Supreme Great. It's great anyway. But that is today's
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: episode on Marvel Zombies and Marvel Talk. So during the
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: next time as we go into something Kaiju related. Until then,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Bye bye.