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VPR Reunion 2 with Call-Ins · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

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Drama Darling, Drama Darling, Drama Darling. Hello, darlings, it is
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vander PALMP Rules Recap today Reunion two. Wow. Not a snoozefest, but
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certainly not the reunion that we're all waiting to see, which will be next
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week and apparently the last five minutes, so we got that little nugget of
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information, Aye rul. Anyway, before we get to our vander Palmp Rules
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recap, I'm gonna have some callers joining us, which is gonna be super
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fun. Some of the darlings over on Patreon are gonna be a little panel
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tonight with me, so I'm super excited about that. As always, for
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more recaps or content Bravo related and beyond, you can follow me over on
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Patreon Drama Darling with Amy Phillips and subscribe over there. Now, before we
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get to our recap, let's serve up some dish. Serving dish, Okay,
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I need to talk about more of the Kroy Bierman and Kim Zolsiak Beerman
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situation now. The latest is in Radar Online is reporting that Kroy Bierman has
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called the cops on his estranged wife Kim and is accusing her of refusing to
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leave the bathroom. Well, you know what, call the cops on me,
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Okay, Croy, because sometimes when my husband's wanted me to get out
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of the bathroom, I'm not ready to either. Okay. A lady's got
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stuff to do. I've got a lot of wigs, like Kim. You
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know what? Do you know? What do you know? Croy? Huh,
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she's trying to gather up her wigs so she can sell them. She
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owes a lot of money. Okay, so maybe she's trying to do something,
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Croy. Actually this has given me very Luanne de Lessepp's vibes. When
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you know she was in Palm Beach and the cop was knocking on her door
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and she's like, get away from me, or I'm in the bathroom drilling.
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Meanwhile it's Kim like CRAI get lost, not leaving anyway. It says
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a tense verbal dispute between the exes led the former NFL star to call the
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cops on Kim, and this is amid their divorce proceedings. As we all
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know, they both filed and an investigation report obtained by Radar Online detailed the
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incident that unfolded at their Georgia home on May second. Well, this seems
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like a long time ago, but they just got the you listen, they
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just obtained the reports. You know what. They just obtained the reports,
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you guys. But this is May second, about ten twenty three pm,
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and that Beerman was the first to greet officers upon their arrival. The police
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initially responded to the house regarding a domestic dispute, although both claimed they did
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not get physical once officers were on the scene. Well, that's good to
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know. The report also stated that Kim was refusing to leave the primary bathroom
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despite the croy expressing that he wished to shower. Guys, this is just
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literally like every relationship. Can we not get the police involved? Anyway?
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Says nothing physical occurred, and according to Bierman, who told the officers,
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this occasion marked the first time that the PD was called in response to an
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incident involving them. Well, it certainly won't be the last. I mean,
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they're both living in that mansion amid divorce proceedings, and this is gonna
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get ugly. It's already ugly. Bierman said that there were kids home at
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the time, but they were already asleep and unaware. Oh boy, I
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doubt that. Listen, kids are smart. Okay, let's they get a
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real loud sound machine. I can only imagine Kim, get out of there,
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Cray get We got eighteen bathrooms in this house. All the kids are
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sleep and go shower somewhere else with that cute ass, you know, even
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while they're getting divorced, She's like, I love your ass. Anyway.
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Kim told the police that she was on the phone when Croy was telling her
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to get out of the bathroom, and he was shouting at her, and
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then when she attempted to make her exit, he would stand in the doorway
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and block her, also accusing her ex of chest bumping her. Oh boy,
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okay, well listen, they both also stayed nothing physical occurred on this
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date. Well. She alleged that Beermann had prevented her from calling nine one
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one in the past by snatching her phone when they would fight. Oh lord,
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yeah, ye, Well, this is just one document added to the
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pile of things that's going to be coming out about them and has been.
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So. I even saw something about Kim maybe going to some sort of it,
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says Kim Zolciak. Beerman completes parenting course, and this sets us weekly.
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I didn't click on this article, but let's just leave that headline there.
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Carry I want to leave that headline there for you. Meanwhile, to
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go from one Kim Zolciak Beerman over to another Kim. In the entertainment field,
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Kim Cattrell apparently is going to reprise her iconic role as Samantha Jones.
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Now this is going to be in the season two finale, and just like
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that, which is obviously HBO's Sex and the City revival, but much like
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she appeared in a text message, a real cryptic text message last season,
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you know, kind of teasing her possible a strange relationship with Carrie, Well,
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she's gonna be on the phone this time. Apparently she filmed the scene
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without seeing anybody on the cast, including the showrunner Michael Patrick King. I
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mean, she didn't see anyone. She didn't even see herself. She was
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like, I'm invisible for this scene. I can't even see I can't even
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see Samantha Jones. That's how angry I am still, And I don't know
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how they did it. You know, no one saw her. She probably
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filmed it on her iPhone, just sent it in anyway, she's gonna have
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a phone conversation with Carrie. I can't imagine them working out their issues.
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But she's only gonna be in that one scene. Of course, Carrie Bradshaw
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will be like and just like that, Samantha unblocked me. You're blocked,
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And just like that, I'm blocked again. Oh, these gals just call
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it a housewives show and be done with it anyway. In other news,
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because that's always very important to report Martha Stewart news, Martha posted on her
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instagram how to design a magical moon garden full of night blooming flowers and silver
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foliage. You guys run, you know, don't walk, because Martha's got
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something to say about this, and I it's important. We tend to think
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of Gordon's as something to enjoy in the bright light of day. Moon Gordons,
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however, invite us to stand in awe of nature's beauty once the sun
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has set. These changing spaces are filled with the buds that reflect the glow
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of the moon's silver and white foliage. I mean, come on, this
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sounds just delightful. I Am running outside to my garden right now. Forget
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about the vander pomp Roll's recap. I gotta go plant some night blooms.
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Well, no that's not true. I need to discuss the scandabal of it
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all, and we're gonna do that now. So let me get my darlings
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on the line for this recap. Okay, guys, we are ready to
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rock into vander palmp Rules Reunion Part two land. And this is so exciting
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because I have callers calling in. Callers are calling in. In fact,
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we've got one calling in right now. Lindsay's back. We had a little
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disconnection situation, but she's back. Lindsay, are you there? Yep?
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Okay, great, Well we are live, not really, I mean in
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my world we're live. But we're going to start talking to the callers.
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Lindsay from Florida is here, and Lindsay, we got to sift through reunion
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to you know, broad strokes. I found this reunion to be not obviously
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not as exciting as last week. Certainly not a snoozefest, but we all
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know this was just kind of a simmering pot waiting for next week, you
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know what I mean, We're just waiting for that sauce to boil. We
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all just want to get to next week, because that's when we're going to
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find out when what the bomb drop actually is, when Raquel actually speaks on
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that stage. We only got to see her in her trailer, showing zero
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emotion, truly chilling, completely terrifying. We did get some satisfaction, I
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think out of tonight's episode, which is that we got to see Arianna,
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you know, shushing Sandoval, Shina yelling at Sandoval, Sandoval shut the fuck
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up, a lot of people yelling at Sandoval. So there were some nice
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satisfaction moments. But I walked away from it feeling like, Okay, it
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was fine, Lindsey, how are you feeling? But I feel like last
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week it was like we hadn't really hard from everyone, like in a group
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yet, so we were like all like kind of waiting like to see I
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feel like now you just like need to skip to next week. Like I
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feel like the three parts it's too much of a tease, Like we've been
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waiting since March first. You know what you've said it, You're right,
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it is too much of a tease. Tonight just seem like we didn't need
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it right. It was at first I thought I started playing last week's episode
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again because I was like, I just felt like, I'm like, hey,
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James sat up last week. That's what kind of threw me. I
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was like, wait, did I put the wrong one on? Oh my
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gosh, totally. I was like, is this the same walk up?
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Did we pick up from his first, his second, third walk off?
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And then are we picking up at a walk off or is this a new
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walk off? And come to find out, I think it was a new
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walk off. He just walked off so quickly after his last walk off.
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You know, housewives know how to do it in terms of walk They really
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abuse that privilege, the walk offs, and I think James advantage of him.
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And though he did abuse that privilege, it was absolutely necessary to see
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those walk offs from him. I mean it kept some livelihood in the situation.
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Lindsay, I'm going to bring in Habba Dah Kaylee right now to join
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us. Hi, Kaylee, how's it going? Hello? Amy, It's
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so nice to meet you in person. You too, Where are you calling
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from? Kaylee? The Jersey Shore, but not that Jersey shore, Wow
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Wood, New Jersey. Oh my gosh, you're down the shore. I
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am down the shore exactly. Oh, I know, I know, I
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know, I'm not I'm not orange as you can see, and they'll do
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all the other stuff. So no, you're not, You're not. How
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dare you? How dare you show up here from Jersey not looking like Jersey?
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I'm offended? Okay, Kaylee, you were nodding your head about some
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of the things that Lindsay and I were saying this this episode of the reunion.
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Where are your where's your head at? So first of all, I
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would characterize it as we all see this reunion as our super Bowl, Right,
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So tonight was the halftime show we didn't want to see because we didn't
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like the artists. It's that piece of the super Bowl. We just want
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to get to the next half. It's the filler and the sandwich, right.
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Yeah, So that's really how I see it. I was kind of
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shocked towards the end that Schwartz is dosing, Like what's his deal? Is
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that part of the revealed down the road? That might be the mind blowing
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part of all people Like that's so random. I'm a little disturbed and sadly
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because if we if we think for a minute, these are human beings,
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and we don't like to think that because we're here for the entertainment, right,
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But I really did see where it wasn't exciting. I saw kind of
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next level on both Standibal and Rachel. Emphasis on Rachel that they're very detached
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from this stand of all continues to spin and try and still manage things.
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I think if he would show some vulnerability, but he keeps going to the
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same toolbox of victim blaming and focusing on other people's failures. If he just
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showed up and said, I made really terrible choices, I'm a bag of
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poo. I want to be a better person. I'm not that guy yet,
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but I'm working on it, people would have a easier time understanding that
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there's still a human being inside right now, he's still locked here and he
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hasn't actually broken yet. Rachel's more disturbing. You see her and she's like,
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oh, it's like she's a fembot, Like there's no one home she
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had. She almost talks in the third person. I'm disturbed for these people,
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I'm disturbed. And then she needs her batteries changed. I am truly
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wondering what is going on. She started to say, I want maybe I
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should have written her personal note, like this is sixth grade slam book.
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I'm sorry, I Off'm sorry I betrayed you. And I'm not always a
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super huge fan of Shena, but that brought me to tears like that was
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and love, like oh my god, that was gut ranching, Like when
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we go back to okay, Yeah, these are real people, not characters,
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who actually do feel some of the pain and a lot of them don't
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know how to process it yet. There's a lot of name calling and tantrums,
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but I get it because there's real hurt here these people. Relationship with
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sna A, You an idiot speaking of name coming. Yes, the tantrums,
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they're getting all their emotions out. I always tell baby daughter, you
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know you got you have your emotions. You need to let them out.
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You got to get them out. And they're not afraid to let them out.
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But you know, you are so right that the Shina continues to amaze
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me. You know, her performance, I'll just call it a performance,
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but her it is finale performance was to me the greatest moment, one of
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the greatest moments of reality television because it was so real and then I feels
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she did grow and then here at the reunion again, this was She's the
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one who's bringing me the emotion that I need to have over the sadness,
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you know, like Santoval. Obviously he's not gonna bring it. Arianna.
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I feel bad for her, but she's in a place of such anger.
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We're not even really seeing the pain yet because she has to be strong at
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this point. She has to just be angry. She can't be anything other
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than that. So Sheena is in a raw place where she can show how
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much hurt and betrayal has you know, happened to her, and we can
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really feel that from her, which is so devastating because you feel the weight
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and for you know, you Kaylee to be down the shore and you're getting
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choked up over it. Think about like when you're watching Raquel in that trailer,
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just with the bamby eyed bitch look, and it's just like youoo.
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And she just sat here and continued to watch Sandobal victim blame again and again
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and and she it's so jarring. I feel like colleges and universities that have
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majors in sociology and psychology has an opportunity, you know, come the fall,
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to offer the new version of basket weaving, which is pump rolls one
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oh one, and you do. You do armchair diagnosis of symptoms and characteristics
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and maybe where they live. And you get extra credit in class for creating
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dioramas like those little cardboard cutouts of people. I can't have a diorama,
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right, So professors could have a field day. But I am truly fascinated
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in academic sense and that's not my field. Like, what are people who
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know things thinking about this situation? Well, actually, funny I should ask.
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I had a therapist on for the Bonus episode on my Patreon just this
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last week, and she's a professional therapist. Now, she can't diagnose these
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personalities obviously. Disclaimer disclaimer disclaimer allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, But she,
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Melissa Reich, was on the show and she and I basically because you know,
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I'm a professional therapist as well. Uh No, she we broke down
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Sandoval. We basically talked about Tom and Raqual individually, and she gave me
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a lot of her opinions. And then after that we went through the Randall
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scandal, the Hulu documentary that's out right now, and she like, she's
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shown some incredible light on the situation, and like you said, it is
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it is rot for diagnosis, it's rot to feel bad basically. Yes,
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and you're right. You know they do these classes like, right, didn't
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they have a class on Beyonce in one of the universities and they've got maybe
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that I think they did. So I think you're right up there. And
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don't underestimate one thing. You are a therapist for many of us, you
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know, we look forward to this. This is our therapy produce. And
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I do too, and I do two same Okay, Kayleie Lindsay, let's
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bring in care Karen. Sorry, Karen, Karen, Wait, where are
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you going? Karen? Where are you calling from? Chan Hassen, Minnesota.
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It's a suburb of Minneapolis. Oh my gosh, I love it.
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But wait, Luke isn't Luke from Minnesota? Yeah, Luke is from northern
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Minnesota. Yes, met him Avocan and did you get his syrup? No?
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No, that really sounds that sounds a actual. While we're bringing in
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Karen, let's bring in Kathy from New Mexico. Hi, Kathy are you
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It's so good to see you in person. Yeah, you too, This
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is so cool. Okay, let's discuss when Tom visits the trailer that Raquel
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is in now, isn't his demeanor so different than it is with anybody else.
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He walks in like he's the boss. He's the boss of that relationship,
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and that just goes to show, right, that's what he likes about
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Raquel is he's the boss man in charge. Yes, I'm so glad you
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brought it up because this was like the ultimate breaking of the fourth wall for
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me. Okay, like this whole scene was. I wrote down notes and
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I was like, this fourth wall has been shattered with this scene, completely
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shatter. And I work in TV, so I completely understand the fourth wall
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and I was just blown away by it. Like are you talking about when
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he wanted to take a real break or he's like, I want to talk
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to Raquel and get our stories straight. And then when we go on stage,
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she says what I wanted to say, Yes, groom her and get
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the story straight, and the whole like producers say, no, if you're
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together, we're shooting together, like we're shooting everything. If you want to
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take a break, you can go on your own and we won't shoot you.
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But if there's two of you, we're shooting right. Like that was
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so crazy to me. It was very cool because it was. I mean,
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on some level, I'm like, give them a break, you know,
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on a human level, I'm like, give them a break, give
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them some space. But on another level, I was like, don't you
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fucking dare give them a break because they're gonna stir up their little pathological lines
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before they get on stage. Don't you dare give them that opportunity. You
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know, if they wanted to figure it out, they should have text,
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They should have facetimed the night before, so you know, stop cramming.
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He's probably like, uh, Luquel's not going to remember, so I just
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got to like make sure that she knows it well. When we started the
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affair, it was after Guy's night at the Mandrell. Yeah, that's what
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it was. I Mean. The other thing was is that they're sitting there
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and Raquel says, well, Tom's trying to give her the four one one
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about what went down on the reunion. She's like, yeah, I've been
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watching it, and he's like and then and then Schwartz like took Cien X,
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and then and then Ariana is like trying to make me look like the
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bad guy. And then she's always like talking about my fashions, like I
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mean you guys. When when Raquel said I have a problem hearing about your
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relationship and what's been going on there because I took your word for it,
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she's essentially saying like, so you were intimate with your partner Arianna while you
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were intimate with me. So she's trying to get mad at him over that,
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and then he completely tries to distract her because he starts going into this
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whole like, well the thing is that, oh well, when I'm jam
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dressed, like for fashions and stuff, and then I'm showing Ariana like wish
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I wear this? You should I wear that? And He's like, uh
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no, Tom, you should wear that. And the next thing, you
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know, She's like, Tom, You're so good at fashions. So I'm
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like, I don't know, And I was like, whoa is she buy
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it? And then hook line and sinker, right, Raquel's just basically like
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oh okay, right, so yeah, okay. Unbelievable, truly unbelievable.
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The things that make Tom so mad about as a relationship with Ariana are laughable.
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The fashion thing, what else has he been mad about? Oh?
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Oh oh they toilet pay for the battery depends when she says, we're not
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pathological liars. You know, the only thing we've lied about is this affair.
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Oh see that thing, That one little thing is the only thing we
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lied about. I was like, you guys, are you know the movie
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Gone Girl? It's like Girl, Gone Girl is gone? Not there.
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I have a serious question. Is it possible that she has some sort of
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form of like aspergers or something? Talk about that. Yeah, I don't
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know. It's not even a disconnected as if she doesn't understand. It's kind
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of like, uh, that character from Big Bang Theory where he just didn't
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get the social cues. And yes, it's almost like that like that.
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I don't know. It's probably just me trying to find a benefit of a
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doubt for someone. No, No, I think you're right. I think
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you're right. I think a lot of people are saying stuff like that and
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and really tiptoeing around it because we have to because we don't know, we
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can't diagnose. But it is one of those things where looks like she's got
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some sort of personality disorder that isn't there's no like real connection there When you
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see Sheena crying and then you cut to her and she's got no emotion.
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Oh I should have wrote her a note. That's the part that is kind
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of rattling in this whole thing, is that there's not a connection, because
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you wonder how people can be so cruel, and then she almost acts like
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not a people, so it's not cruel, like there's no one there.
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And I think that kind of triggers a fear in all of us, like
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what are we dealing with? And no one wants to work in that realm
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of anxiety. It's just strange. I know it is. When people don't
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have empathy, it can be a terrifying thing. And then you wonder,
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like, well, we've seen her cry, so she can cry. She
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can feel emotion because she's cried about like the pageants. She's cried to Ariana.
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You know, she's cried about certain balaxy lights, the galaxy lights.
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You know. Yeah, how about she says like I've gone through a transition
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time this summer, and you know, she may have made some foibles like
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it was optic and disconnected. It was bizarre. I know, I need
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but but he's equally bizarre. I mean, he's still victim blaming. It's
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like read the room, like your entire world's upside down because you've done this
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whole weather calculus and he's just at the end of the day, he's fearful,
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like he's really driven by cowardice, right because you can't you couldn't give
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Arianna the bad news, and he fears losing his you know, social role.
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So he's still acting out in spite of everything that's transpired. Yes,
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yeah, you are so right. Oh my god, killing it there,
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Kaylee down the shore. Also, let's get to Allie's he So Ali shows
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up and she is She's so cute, and you know, I felt this
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way about Raquel, but I'm like, oh my god, like Raquel fooled
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us. Is Alie capable of this? It's like another person that James brought
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in, Like what I don't want to be duped by her because she's like,
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oh, I started watching vander Pump Rules during COVID, you know,
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so she knows, she knows what's up. Is anyone scared of Ali because
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I can't help but be scared. So I was scared of Ali because she
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reminded me a lot of Roquel. Yes, I listened to Sheena's podcast literally
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like yesterday or the day before with Jackson Brittany and everybody just loves this ster
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Ali from the Abbey. Everybody loves Ali from the Abbey. And then I
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always felt about Raquel's kind of innocent in all of this. No I hear
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you, I'm I'm mostly kidding, but I'm also like, so, I
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on what day? Was it, uh, Sunday or Monday? It was
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Monday, Memorial Day? And I had Bravo on and they were playing like
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back to back. They were playing the Reunion from I don't know, a
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couple of seasons ago, oh, during the pandemic, and there were it's
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when Stasi was still on and Kristen and stuff, and they were all saying
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like, we love Raquel, like she's so sweet, and they were just
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fawning over her. Everyone was going nuts, and it just made me think,
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Wow, have things changed? But how about when we talked about actually,
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Raquel's mom would talk about James's dick at dinner across from Grandma Buttons.
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That was really inappropriate. Kathy New Mexico, what were your thoughts on that.
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I don't know that I believe that. Come on, do you do
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you believe that? Well? Raquel sat there and she had the same look
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on her face. So I I don't see why James would lie about it.
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He doesn't strike me as a liar, so I'm gonna have to go
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ahead and believe him. It is weird. Maybe he just got a she
28:11
had a little too much pinagriggio. So Tom Sandoval tries to set up James
28:17
Kennedy as being this bad guy, which maybe on a different season we could
28:22
ride this out and you know, get an Atlantic City waitress and find out
28:26
what James did and all this stuff, but nobody cares. Nobody cares if
28:33
he slaps someone's ass inappropriately, which is kind of shows what state we're in
28:38
with vander Pump rules that if there was potentially some kind of sexual assault on
28:42
someone in Vegas or Atlantic City. Uh, and we're just like, I
28:48
don't care. Let's talk more about santabal Like, you know, we're in
28:51
the shit now, right. So Tom says that James made a fool at
28:55
their Atlantic City gig and that he smacked a waitress on the ass and they
29:00
had to make her sign something. And Tom says, and you know,
29:03
yeah, I mean Lisa smuck girls asses. And Arianna says, yeah,
29:07
you just fuck my best friend. And then Tom says, that's your get
29:11
out of jail free card. Ex squeeze me, exqueeze me. Liz thoughts
29:19
on Tom Sandobal basically saying that his affair is Arianna's get out of jail free
29:26
card. This guy worm with a mustache, asshole, total asshole. I
29:34
mean, it's like, will how low will he actually stoop is the question.
29:38
Worms can get real low to the ground, and he is pretty pretty
29:42
low. That was unbelievable. He's throwing stuff out there like to see what
29:48
will stick and how about it. At the very beginning when he's when La
29:53
LA's yelling at him, and he says, you pulled your I He said,
29:59
you pulled your I U d out the day you found out Stasi was
30:03
pregnant. Did you guys hear that? You didn't hear that? Something about
30:07
when she was pregnant? But they were all kind of like yelling at it
30:10
like it was it wasn't very clear. That's what That's what he said.
30:15
I had to rewind it a couple times. I'm like, what did he
30:17
say? He said to La La, you pulled your IU D out the
30:21
day you found out Stacy was pregnant. Okay, and what does that have
30:25
to do with anything happening here. And also like so because Stasi and they
30:32
all have kids about the same age, So I mean it might be true,
30:36
but how is that How are those words hurting anyone having? How is
30:40
that gonna land? What doesn't bother me? They had that's right, they
30:47
had the pact. Yeah, that's old news again. Deflection deflection, Yeah,
30:56
that's right. How about when we found out that Randall's spoke okesperson was
31:00
the same spokesperson that Harvey Weinstein had not surprised? That was disgusting. Yeah,
31:11
a lot, It says a lot. Have you guys seen the Randall
31:12
scandal yet? Yeah? Oh my god, yes, so good. That's
31:18
why it's not surprising because he's more of a smock than we realized. I
31:22
think I watched that. I didn't have a I knew like the Fafty give
31:30
me my money money by Monday or whatever. I don't know everything that had
31:37
happened. That was poor Laa. I don't know so much respect for her
31:45
this season, only because like she and James have brought the best Bravo characters
31:52
this than ever. But I felt for her after I watched that. Yeah,
31:59
I to, And there's so much that we don't know. You know,
32:04
there's so much that they didn't put into that documentary that is out there
32:07
that and and Lala even says it. She's like, that's not even the
32:10
tip of the iceberg, which is terrifying. And so many people didn't come
32:14
forward. Also well, I mentioned that I did an episode with Melissa Reich
32:20
the Therapist, and we talked about the Randall scandal. But I did find
32:24
it interesting that the parallels between Tom Sandoval and Randall tend to be a little
32:30
similar, and that Lala is basically saying that Sandoval is Randall in ten years.
32:38
You know, I what do you guys think. Let's let's kind of
32:43
go down the line here. When Lisa vander Pump tells Lala, and this
32:47
was at the beginning because Lala was, you know, popping off, popping
32:52
off at Tom Sandoval, and Lisa says, you'll being too aggressive. What
33:01
were your thoughts on Lisa kind of trying to quiet Lalla or dumb down all
33:07
of Lala's points about Tom. What are your thoughts, Kathy? I'm disappointed
33:15
and Lisa, Lisa's one of my like ride or die like I love her.
33:17
She could cut off my arm and I would still love her I met
33:22
her. I just love Lisa, but very disappointed that she seems to be
33:28
And somebody said this on your show the other day. I think she's really
33:31
sticking up for Sandabal and trying to protect him, and it's not I don't
33:37
think it's a good look. I understand what she's saying, that he is
33:42
a human and humans make mistakes, but she's kind of shutting everybody down.
33:47
It's it's one of those things like I can't even I love Lalla, but
33:52
I can't say it in front of my husband. He's like, that bitch
33:54
did the same thing. He gets like so animated and almost that I love
34:00
Lala now, but I think that, yes, Lala is aggressive about it,
34:06
but that's the emotion. I mean, that's I would be the same
34:09
way, probably, but I don't like that Lisa's just making it like,
34:14
oh, Tom's just a sweet boy. He doesn't know what he did.
34:17
Yeah, but it is an argument as far as everybody on that couch has
34:22
screwed up, except for Katie. But can you sit there and say,
34:25
well, I was only twenty one when I did it. I mean,
34:28
is that fair? I don't know my husband doesn't think so, He's like,
34:31
you did it. I don't care how old you were. You did
34:34
it. So I don't know. But there is some truth to the fact
34:38
that, you know, Sandoval is a forty year old band. Come on,
34:42
he knows what he's doing. Oh, absolutely yeah. I wish that
34:45
she would be sticking up for Ariana. It seems like the people who are
34:50
supposed to get the apologies aren't getting them, and the people you know,
34:54
it's like, you know, Tom and who is the other one crying over
34:59
it and saying I'm so sorry, But nobody's apologizing to Ariana. They're all
35:01
apologizing like, oh, I've been friends with Gena fifteen years. He's more
35:07
worried about his friendship with her than Ariana. It seems like sometimes that was
35:13
wild. Yes, yes, you have no relationship with Sena. You an
35:16
idiot. I love that, Kathy, I feel the same way. The
35:22
part of me absolutely sees where Lisa's coming from, especially last week when she
35:29
you know, no one's gonna have Sandoval's back. Someone's got to do it,
35:34
okay, someone has to somehow, And she has an investment in him,
35:37
She has an investment in Schwartz, She's got an investment in the show.
35:40
So part of me absolutely does understand why she has to be something of
35:45
a neutral or at least be there for Tom because no one will be I
35:50
get it. But there does come a time where she does need to at
35:54
least, you know, have a little more balance when it comes to standing
36:00
up for women. And it bothered me in this episode that she said to
36:06
Lalla that she was being aggressive and that Lala calling Sandoval dangerous, that LVB
36:14
tried to take that away from her too. She's being very protective over Sandoval
36:19
when I don't feel the same protection over the women on the show, and
36:22
that is disappointing to see. It's unfortunate. I guess it doesn't surprise me
36:27
because she really is partial to men. I mean, she loves them.
36:30
Men. You know she loves them, so you know she's going to protect
36:34
them first. But it is a bummer because I love Lisa vander Pump too.
36:37
I just would really love to have seen her, you know, pipe
36:42
in a little harder for the women on the show. What do you think,
36:45
Karen Well, I kind of agree. I feel a little jaded saying
36:52
this because I'm going to Vegas in three weeks. And we're going to Vanderpump.
36:57
Oh, I'll go to vander Pump too, don't worry. I mean,
36:59
you can still have feelings. It's a little hard for me to say
37:04
anything against her when I'm going to support the restaurants. No, No,
37:07
it's all fair. It's all fair in love and war, you can still
37:09
support. I mean, I don't know, I get it that she has
37:15
to support her investments. Everybody was put in a bad position, right,
37:21
Yeah, Like Lisa LVP was put in a bad position, Sheena was put
37:24
in a bad position, Katie was. They were all put in a bad
37:29
position because of Tom and Rachel's decision. So I don't feel that you can
37:37
blame her for it. Is she taking a side? Yeah? Probably would
37:45
I if I was in that position. Probably. Okay, No, it's
37:51
good. We gotta listen, we gotta have opinions. Iming. Hold on,
38:00
let's uh, let's just talk about the Sheena punch for a second,
38:07
okay, because this is like my favorite thing in the world, just that
38:09
we're talking about. Everyone is really going to bat for Sena. Look at
38:14
her hands. Look at her hands. She can't make a fist. Look
38:16
at her hands, and she's like oh, it's like she's Edward says,
38:21
her hands. All of a sudden, she just has like these long nails.
38:24
She just said, know, I mean like, but the best is
38:30
like, I don't think that you know, she can make a fist.
38:32
And so Andy says, well, who thinks that Sheena punched Raquel? And
38:39
no one says anything, but then Lisa vander Pump, of course, yes,
38:45
I think she did punch it. No, I'm kidding. She's like,
38:47
no, I think that she pushed her. Okay, that's what we
38:52
all think, we all. I mean, I think that too. I
38:53
don't think that she punched her. But Sandoval doesn't have a leg to stand
38:58
on. He's sitting here trying to say, believe me, you guys,
39:00
I totally heard her say I punched your fucking face. It's like, Santoval,
39:07
if your thinking or your mouth is moving, or you're you're you're putting
39:13
on fashions, you're lying. All of it's lying. But the best was
39:19
like that dramatic pause that Sandoval had. He didn't pause that long in the
39:23
finale when he was doing his apology tour telling everybody what was going on.
39:29
I've never seen a pause like that in my life. I mean, like
39:31
Meryl Streep's never even done it, and this guy is milking it for all.
39:36
And then he's just this long dramatic pause and then he's like, it's
39:39
just I mean to rock in a hard place because you know, I don't
39:44
know, and it's like, well, just say it. So then you
39:45
finally say it and we all know. You know, you can't save your
39:50
relationship with Shena because it's you're not having a friendship with her anymore. I
39:53
have no relationship with Shana. Are you an idiot? But after he's as
40:00
like, well, I just I don't know. I don't know, And
40:02
then and then Ariana was like no, she said she pushed her. And
40:08
then he's like, well, no, no, if I'm not sure,
40:10
and then she does like then keep your fucking mouth shut. Oh I love
40:20
it when Shenanigan's yells Lindsey, what were your thoughts on the Sandaval Shena punch
40:25
scenario? I think he it was almost like he admitted that he told Raquel
40:31
to file the restraining order, like, oh, you know what you should
40:34
do? Because the way he's the old, like the way that he so
40:38
quickly said, well, I heard punch and everyone else like, no,
40:43
we didn't hear that. He likes to control situations and manipulate, you know,
40:47
people that could be Manipulate's a little puppet. And I guarantee he thought
40:52
that that would take some of the heat off of him if Sheina was in
40:55
the news with the restraining order. He's not the brightest, he never has
41:01
been, but that would be pretty smart though, if he thought of that,
41:06
that's actually pretty smart. Well I did it more more or less just
41:10
oh, you know what you should do, right, like kind of thing,
41:14
and right exactly, they're just like were calling up with Well, what's
41:20
interesting is I did hear that it was Raquel's parents that made her put the
41:24
restraining out, the restraining order out, But who knows, that's probably another
41:30
lie. Just just like you say that like your parents made you, you
41:36
know, when they're not talking about like James's dick and stuff, do you
41:38
say like they just you know, they made you do it. Oh,
41:43
here's one surprise, okay from the whole episode that shocked me. Were you
41:50
guys as surprised as I was? When Sheena said that she didn't you know,
41:57
at first, she didn't believe any of these rumors about Santa bal and
42:00
Raquel, but she started to believe Katie. She started to believe La La,
42:05
and that she went to Arianna and said something to her about about her
42:10
concern and that Arianna is like, no, I totally trust them, and
42:15
then she was like, Okay, all right, I just want to let
42:16
you know that this is going around. And I just did not think that
42:22
Sheena had the down low on all of it, and that she had gone
42:27
to Ariana even with this concern. That totally shocked me was that the conversation
42:31
that she had mentioned having in January with Ariana. I think so, because
42:37
remember they had the what was that? Oh yeah, because they didn't have
42:42
that footage, right, so that must have been. Yeah, it had
42:45
to have been. He had said they talked about like the intimacy part,
42:50
Like, so wonder if it's the same conversation. Oh wow, wow,
42:52
good detective. For the part that surprised me was that not the fact they
42:58
had that conversation because I'd heard that, but that she had the conversation with
43:02
Raquel and said you would never do that and don't do that and I love
43:07
you, And I was like, oh my god. She like that she
43:09
went to Sandoval and asked him that she had like Shana was doing God's work,
43:14
right. She met with Arianna, and she met with she met with
43:16
Rachel like she was trying to block and tackle and figure this thing out.
43:20
Yeah, but Raquel, Rachel lied to her face and said, no,
43:23
I would never do such a thing. That's when my jaw dropped and said,
43:28
yes, oh wow, you're right that she had the whole conversation with
43:31
her. So I knew about the Ariana conversation through the course of you know,
43:37
the the over indulgence we've had in the last ninety days, and I
43:39
don't know where I got that from. That went right over my head.
43:43
So Quel of it all was just like, oh man, she confronted her,
43:47
and she in front of Sandoval and they continued to lie for a couple
43:52
more months. Yeah, that was really disgusting. Oh and then Sheena said
43:58
that she had heard that Santa told Raquel in a hot tub at Coachella that
44:02
they were in an open relationship. And so there that's I mean, they
44:07
talk about when this all started, and you know, their storyline is that
44:12
it started the Mandre on the see you Next Tuesday. But you know,
44:17
he had to have started at Coachella. It had to have started the emotional
44:22
affair at last, you know, probably at the end of last season.
44:27
I mean, that's just what I think he told Andy a year ago he
44:30
started having more interest in her. He told me to sit down, he
44:35
said he started. Yes, yes, he said he started like seeing her
44:38
differently, Like I want to say it was in last week's episode where they
44:43
did the sit down. I think he said something like he said, when
44:46
did it start? And he's like, well, like a year ago,
44:49
I started to realize she's a really good person, Like he started to say
44:52
all this stuff. Yep, and that's when it actually started. That I'm
44:55
saying, like as much as sandabal where that's coming from. But if that
45:00
was a drinking game, you yours would be overflowing tonight. I mean,
45:04
honestly, a number of times he says that sorry. Well, and it's
45:07
also him trying to pander in order to get to his next lie. I
45:14
mean, in that trailer with Raquel, the amount of likes that flew out
45:19
of his mouth when she said she was uncomfortable with the timeline and she wasn't
45:22
sure about his relationship with Arianna while they were together, and he was continued
45:29
to say, oh, like like I just like my fashions, and uh,
45:34
she just like gets she just doesn't like me. Yeah, you're not
45:37
likable. Uh. But that's why he was so aggressive with production too,
45:44
like he wanted that privacy to manage the situation. Bull on pantrum. Yeah,
45:51
oh yeah, hold on a second, let me talk to is Liz,
45:52
Yes, Liz? All right. So when Raquel said, and I
45:55
quote because I wrote it down, I felt like I felt like she wanted
46:00
to keep the relationship working because you never broke up with her. It's like,
46:07
yeah, yeah, that's why Marianna wants to keep the relationship going because
46:10
you never. But but the way Rakel said it, it wasn't like she
46:15
like she should have been pissed at him about that. She was just like,
46:17
oh, because she wanted their relationship to keep working because you didn't break
46:23
up with her, right right, right, she's trying. And then he
46:29
goes his response was well, in a sense like what does that even mean?
46:35
In a sense, No, you didn't break up with her, Yes,
46:37
you were still cheating on her. Yeah, he has so much power.
46:40
These trailer scenes are a real insight into their relationship because you see the
46:46
power he has over her, and in her apartment with the galaxy lights,
46:52
you see how different he is with her, even the way that he carries
46:57
himself, like he looks like a different person with her, the way he
47:00
kind of moves in and hugs her. He's just almost like a coach or
47:05
a villain, like a villain investigator that's coming in and checking on his subject.
47:10
Like it's such a strange vibe that he has with her, but it
47:15
absolutely is some level of control and seniority over her. And that's what he
47:23
likes about it. When he's with Arianna. Oh my god, she was
47:28
like sh and he was like yeah, okay, Like he just shrinks down.
47:32
I mean, he obviously has felt emasculated in that relationship. He doesn't
47:37
know the word, so he can't use it. It's unfortunate because he probably
47:44
would have over used that throughout the entire season. But I'm sure that that's
47:49
how he feels. But this whole Coachella thing to me, and like you
47:53
said, when he told Andy about when he started having feelings or when he
47:58
started to think about her differently getting to know her, that completely marks the
48:01
beginning of their relationship. Now we find out that Raquel dropped the restraining order
48:08
against Sena, and in her interview her one on one with Andy, she
48:13
says that she felt really bad about doing it and that she was doing everything
48:17
she could to drop it. So now Sheena gets the notice and it's interesting
48:24
because she doesn't seem emotional at first, but Lala is the one who says,
48:29
you know, I'm really happy for you because now you can focus on
48:34
your daughter, and then she just breaks down, and that's when we get
48:37
that amazing moment from her about the betrayal, how she took her in and
48:43
like you said, how lindsay about how I'm sorry Kaylie, about how she
48:49
confronted her. You better not do something like this. You better not betray
48:52
us. You know I've been there for you everything. She really laid it
48:55
out and that was really heartbreaking to watch. And then, of course Raquel's
49:01
no reaction in the whole. Maybe I should have written her a personal note.
49:05
Maybe I should have gone to the Hallmark store and gotten a I'm sorry
49:08
I was sleeping with my best friend's partner and betrayed you at the same time
49:15
and lied to your face Shenanigans. I don't think there's a card for that
49:17
yet, Well there's gonna be because all the Bravo fanatics out there are gonna
49:22
have a lot of swag. Laala got emotional too, and to see how
49:28
much they've both grown, right, because Laala's matured quite a bit, and
49:31
to see the power of their relationship. That was really a special moment,
49:37
you know, of a friend supporting a friend through that, Like to see
49:39
Laala crying in support of her was really cool. It was cool. And
49:44
then Katie's like, can we be best friends? Laala? Are you sure
49:47
you want to be best friends with She nanagats, she's all jealous. You
49:52
guys are having your moments at some point. We need some apologies for Katie.
49:59
Katie. Katie really just got crushed this year. And I know focuses
50:02
on one couple, but she was literally road kill all season. God,
50:07
and she needs to get dusted off a little bit. She does. She
50:10
needs something about her. She'll open up. They'll she'll have her moment next
50:15
season. I'm sure of it. During the one on one when Andy was
50:20
asking Raquel, it seems like, you know, he was like it seems
50:24
like his face is just of confusion talking so cude he's so cute. It
50:35
turns out that he's asking her about, you know, Arianna, and Raquel
50:40
begins to sort of make it look like Arianna didn't want to know because she's
50:45
telling Tom's narrative. You know, she's telling the story that Tom coached her
50:50
two. And then Andy said, well, it sounds like, you know,
50:54
you're making it more like Arianna's fault that she didn't want to see this,
50:59
and you know, I don't know. And then Andy says, well,
51:01
what did you think was going to happen? Did you think everything was
51:05
just going to turn out okay? And she said, yeah, I thought
51:07
everything would be okay. Ah, you guys, yeah, like that poor
51:15
girl, that poor girl is so lost. Yeah, I mean, you're
51:22
right, you're right, You're right, Karen. She has completely been bamboozled
51:28
by the entire system. And I live in Minnesota, so I don't know
51:32
what it's like in La, but I mean it's picture perfect for her in
51:39
my eyes anyway. I just I feel so bad for her to an extent.
51:46
Did she do something wrong, absolutely, but I feel like she was
51:53
somewhat innocent in getting sucked into the system. Well, if she has some
51:59
sort of condition, she does have an excuse, I mean to say it.
52:06
Raquel says that they were going to get their stories straight before telling Marianna.
52:12
She literally said that that killed me different and I'm not Again, I'm
52:22
not trying to defend her. I just I the Minnesota nice in me comes
52:29
out and I feel bad for her because again sucked into it. What are
52:37
your thoughts on that? Liz Well the New York bitch and me says,
52:40
no fucking way she knew exactly what she was doing. I have very little
52:45
sympathy for her. I mean, that's not exactly true, but I'm sorry,
52:51
just based on her reactions to things, either she's really really stupid or
52:59
she knows what she's doing and just can't really cop to it. The fact
53:02
that she's been so emotionless in so many of these interviews, and like literally
53:09
she has no emotion on her face. I've seen that look before. I
53:15
know people like that, and it's of the people that I know like that.
53:21
There's something wrong and that has to be what that is. What's wild
53:27
is that it would take so long for people to notice that that was a
53:32
characteristic flaw or trait or something that she has going on. For no one
53:38
to notice it come out in any other way. That's what I find bizarre
53:44
is that nobody, well, I mean, Lala says that she's you know,
53:46
a devil in you know, a wolf in sheep's clothing, that she
53:51
saw that with her coming in, So that has a whole new angle on
53:53
it, is that she's being deliberately diabolical, whereas you know, part of
54:00
me thinks that she's accidentally diabolical because of her condition or whatever or what have
54:08
you. I mean, he saying that like condition, but part of me
54:12
thinks it's accidental, and then the other parts, like I just can't figure
54:17
it out because I can't diagnose her, and yet we all know there's something
54:22
wrong. Well, I mean, she broke up with James on the reunion,
54:28
she broke off her engagement with an on the reunion. That to me
54:31
is a slightly diabolical. But if there's not a condition and it's not accidental,
54:40
then we all have to come to the term that monsters are real,
54:44
because that means this is all practiced, and you know, there's a bigger
54:47
plan, and I don't know, I think time will tell where this all
54:52
ends up. It's hard to process and I think that's why we all react
54:53
so much to it, is the depth of the deceit and then the lack
54:59
of emotion. We'll kind of rag by it. That's just weird, and
55:02
it surprised us because she seems so nice and so sweet. I felt the
55:06
same way when I was watching that old reunion. Everyone was like, we
55:09
love Raquel, and when she would get spicy, they'd be like, go,
55:14
Raquel, you know so it. Really, I would love to know
55:19
more about what James thinks about her personality. He hasn't really spoken to that.
55:24
Wouldn't he know, Like, wouldn't he know more about her? I
55:28
mean he was with her for like what three years? That's why I just
55:31
feel like we need to know five. I think they were together five years.
55:36
Yeah, I think that's what they said on the reunion tonight. Oh
55:40
oh my gosh. I think you're right. He's so hurt right now.
55:45
Yeah, he's in the same anger phase as Arianna. Yeah. Yeah,
55:50
he's so hurt of the Tom thing. I don't think he cares a lick
55:52
about Raquel really, because he said at one point he's like, I don't
55:55
know you, I don't care, like you're a different person. But I
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think he feels so abandoned by Top. Yeah, when Shena had to leave
56:07
because Raquel has to come take the stage, she leads to go to Now
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she's in a trailer, but it's a nicer trailer. Did you notice that
56:15
the Shagan wagons. Yeah, and she changed into her comfy clothes too,
56:22
just like they did at lunch. I love that, I know, I
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love it. I love it. Also, Sena gives Andy an album,
56:30
She's got her gold record, which was amazing to see her walk off stage,
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that was incredible. And then I did love that when Andy said to
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Schwartz, can you move over because you know Raquel is going to sit there,
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and Arianna said, no, no, no, you're not moving over.
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I love that. I love that part. Let's do some speculations before
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we before we end this, about what we think the bomb is that's going
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to be dropped next week, because we have we just have no idea.
57:07
So let's go down the line. Let's start with you, Liz, what
57:10
is your speculation or your guests about what the big secret is that is going
57:15
to make the cast maybe not sign on for another season. You know,
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I really don't know. Of course, we've all heard the rumor that Raquela
57:25
is pregnant. We've all heard the rumor that Lisa knew about the deception beforehand.
57:32
You know, I really don't know. I don't have a good idea,
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but I from what I've heard on the blog, it's not really going
57:39
to be significant enough to prevent people from signing on, especially because I do
57:45
believe they all need the paycheck. Yeah and Tom, especially Okay, Lindsey,
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what are your thoughts about next week and the bomb dropping. I have
57:58
a theory that Lisa had known and that there's that rumor of her son in
58:05
law being unfaithful to her daughter, and that Tom kind of held it like
58:12
blackmailed her with it, almost like you can't say anything because all all out
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Jason. I think that was his name right in Pandora. That's my theory
58:21
because that's the only reason I could see people not wanting to sign back on
58:24
is if they felt like, okay, like Lisa, out of all people,
58:28
is going to be blackmailed, and that's why I think she's defending Tom
58:32
too. That's my that's my theory. So you think that Raquel and Pandora's
58:38
husband what's his name? No, I think not that Raquel slept with Jason,
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that there was a rumor that Jason cheated on Pandora, right. I
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think that that's been really quiet, like that really hasn't made much news ever,
58:53
and I think because it was squashed pretty quickly. So I think that
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Lisa found out about Tom and Raquel and Tom being the asshole that he can
59:04
beat a Lisa was like, yeah, well I'm gonna say, like,
59:06
I'm gonna out your son in law. I don't know, And I think
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that's why she's defending him so much. You're drumming, Oh I see,
59:15
Oh my gosh, I thought you were saying Jason and Raquel was like,
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okay, well, well I mean it's not of the ordinary, all right,
59:23
excellent, Okay, Kaylee, what are your thoughts for next week?
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I'm all over the place. I'm praying that it's not something small and we
59:30
all feel like violated, and yes, we all want to cancel Bravo.
59:36
I like holding out that's not the case. Most stuff on line has been
59:38
debunked, Like Lisa sinks she doesn't know anything, Rachel's not pregnant, all
59:43
that kind of stuff. The trippy Galaxy Light version of my brain is Katie
59:49
and James got together to get back at all of them, but that would
59:52
never happen. I really think it's probably just that they've been doing it longer
59:57
than they said, and we're all going to go like, yeah, that's
1:00:00
surprising. They're big fat liars, right right, So I'm trying to not
1:00:04
put in real estate in but tonight I got anxiety when it said you have
1:00:07
to hold on to the last five minutes of Really, we've been at this
1:00:10
for nineties. We're exhausted, I know something, we really are. It's
1:00:15
not it's not cool anymore. Yeah, we're gonna be like PTSD level,
1:00:21
like getting treatment. I know, everybody call your therapist. Okay, all
1:00:28
right, Karen, Any thoughts on next week? I do have some thoughts.
1:00:31
So we are thought on kind of what is gonna be the shocker.
1:00:38
My friend Sam and I talk about this all the time at work, and
1:00:44
I think we're all going to be disappointed. I think it's going to be
1:00:46
that Jacks and Brittany are coming back. That's our theory. Yeah, that's
1:00:52
a good theory that that people won't want to sign back on with them.
1:00:54
But who's not good with them? Like you know, I mean maybe sand
1:01:00
of all. I guess I don't know. I just I feel like this
1:01:07
the last person that was talking. I think it's going to be a disappointment.
1:01:12
Yeah, I hope not. No, I think you're one hundred percent
1:01:15
right. It's going to be a disappointment. Of course it will. I
1:01:19
mean, this is like because I can't think of anything that would warrant them
1:01:25
to not want to sign their contracts again, Like, what could it possibly
1:01:29
be? Kathy and New Mexico? What are your thoughts? Do you have
1:01:31
any guesses? I felt like we're going to be disappointed, like it's some
1:01:37
something just to get us all riled up again, because as riled up as
1:01:42
I am, I am sort of getting like, Okay, this needs to
1:01:45
have some kind of a break or or a conclusion at least resolve of some
1:01:50
sort. But I don't know. I mean, I like those theories.
1:01:54
They make sense all of what they said, but I feel like it's maybe
1:01:59
not going to be anything that great. I don't know, mm hmmm.
1:02:05
I can't come up with any interesting theories like those. Those are good.
1:02:08
I mean, I've been racking my frickin' brain, you know, like the
1:02:13
only thing I can think is well, what would make them not want to
1:02:16
sign their contracts that they would find out something new that they didn't know from
1:02:21
these one on ones? Are they going to do a one on one with
1:02:24
Lisa? Is Lisa going to say that she is going to only start filming
1:02:30
at Tom Tom? Now that was my only thing, like my only guess
1:02:34
I should say that Lisa is you know, pomp is closing and then soon
1:02:39
behind it, maybe Sir will close, and then she's going to focus on
1:02:44
Tom Tom and then the rest is going to be in Vegas. She's going
1:02:47
to start really expanding in Vegas and all of her attention is going there,
1:02:52
and so will people want to still be on vander Pump rules if Tom Tom
1:02:57
is like the main restaurant that they're going to be focused on because everyone hates
1:03:00
Tom That was my only you think that's I don't know, nothing is good
1:03:07
enough, you know, I mean, like I can't think of one thing
1:03:09
unless it was Rachel's pregnant and that we know it's not that, and they
1:03:15
say, like production, you know, being Lisa new She's said, you
1:03:21
know, I mean also Lisa vander Pump's we love her, but she lies
1:03:24
too, you know, and she says on her her Twitter that she didn't
1:03:30
know and that she found out when we did, so we know it's not
1:03:35
that technically, because that's not going to be what it is. Did production
1:03:40
know at some point? Yeah? So what you know? Like if they
1:03:45
knew, who cares? If they knew, Like, it's their job to
1:03:49
follow the story. So if they're not doing their job, then we can't
1:03:53
really have a season. It's not their place to get in the middle and
1:03:57
then tell Arianna it's just not their place. Else it's not reality television.
1:04:01
I mean, I suppose it would be disappointing if Lisa Vanner Pomp knew and
1:04:05
didn't tell Ariana. That would be terrible because she would be exploiting it for
1:04:10
the show. So if it comes out but she said that's not what it
1:04:15
is, I don't know. Oh, it's so frustrating because it's like a
1:04:19
puzzle that you can't figure out. And then, like you said, next
1:04:23
week when we find out, it's going to be nothing, and I'm gonna
1:04:26
be so annoyed, like why do this to us? Now? You're just
1:04:29
playing with us. What if it's that Tom and Tom are actually in a
1:04:31
relationship, that would be amazing that if they were smart, if they were
1:04:41
smart, even if that wasn't true, they should do that because that's the
1:04:44
only way out of this mess. Correct, you're the tom to my tomb.
1:04:51
That's good, Liz, that was my succession, like switch on the
1:04:57
whole thing. Oh, I like it. That's really good. Well until
1:05:00
next week. I suppose I did love James freaking out and being like you
1:05:06
mustache prick. I just loved I loved it so much. I love I
1:05:15
love James so much the last few episodes. He's a star is a period.
1:05:24
I'm not a James fan, but that little cocky cock and the somebody's
1:05:31
gonna slap my eyes. I know he's so good up, I love him.
1:05:40
Well, Gosh, what a fun night we had with all the darlings.
1:05:45
I just can't thank you enough. Kathy, Karen, Kayleie, Lindsey,
1:05:50
Liz. Wow, we really did it. We really peeled back the
1:05:54
layers. Listen. I'm so grateful for you all. Thank you so much
1:06:00
much for joining me tonight. Thank thank you. Super fun. Okay,
1:06:04
guys, well you'll listen to the pod tomorrow. Have a GUYE have a
1:06:11
great night. Bye bye bye Drama Darling Drama Darling Drama, Darling