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Off-Road Inspiration & New Skills with Micah Weber from Overlandunderbudget · The Overland Journal Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to the Overload Journal podcast. I'm your
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  Speaker 1: host Matt Scott. Julian Rebecca is helping me guest host
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  Speaker 1: today to save my brain. We're at the Big Thing.
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  Speaker 1: We're doing a big podcast push with all these wonderful
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  Speaker 1: people with the event, and we've got Micah here with us.
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  Speaker 1: We're so stoked to hear. Micah has an Instagram page
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  Speaker 1: and kind of a community built around the handle Overland
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  Speaker 1: under Budget. One of the things he loves to do
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  Speaker 1: is inspire people to get out travel, build your vehicle,
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  Speaker 1: but do it but I'll say a common sense way.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so thanks for coming on man. How has
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  Speaker 1: the Big Thing been for you?
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  Speaker 3: It's been awesome and First of all, just thanks for
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  Speaker 3: even inviting me to do the podcast.
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  Speaker 4: I'm honored to be here and so we know where
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  Speaker 4: were started.
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  Speaker 3: I still feel like it's surreal to do these type
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  Speaker 3: of things and be invited to be on a podcast.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just like a normal dude the family and kids.
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  Speaker 1: And every normal dude with a family and kids has
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  Speaker 1: a podcast.
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  Speaker 4: Now it's like one of the most normal things you
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  Speaker 4: could do.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but it still feels I haven't been on
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  Speaker 3: that many podcasts, so yeah, thanks for being for having
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  Speaker 3: me out here. And then the event's been awesome helping
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  Speaker 3: introduce people to welding. I set up like my own
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  Speaker 3: little class and yeah, we're doing four sessions and so forth.
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  Speaker 1: Like you had to add a session because it was
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  Speaker 1: so popular, didn't you.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: They told me there was four and they said it
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  Speaker 3: was like ninety minutes. I was like, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 3: how do I talk for ninety minutes? But each class
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  Speaker 3: has been like over ninety minutes, and it's yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: been really good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's cool when you're able to like share
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  Speaker 1: that knowledge with people and people learning and soaking it
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  Speaker 1: up and being inspired.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I get addicted to that, and I forgot
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  Speaker 3: how fun it is to do that in person and
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  Speaker 3: in a group where I love being able to break
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  Speaker 3: down maybe a topic that's a little complex or a
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  Speaker 3: little intimidating and try to break it down into bite
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  Speaker 3: sized information that's relatable and watch people's gears turn and
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  Speaker 3: watch the veil lift where they're like, you know what, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they're kind of like, I think I can do this.
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  Speaker 3: I love that I heard someone told me they overheard
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  Speaker 3: somebody was like, I think I'm going to bio welder.
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  Speaker 4: I think I'm ready to do.
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  Speaker 1: A project happen afternoon class that I could Yeah, see
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  Speaker 1: two thirty. One of the things we were talking about
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  Speaker 1: before we started is you like to expose people the
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  Speaker 1: trades based skills. Welding is the perfect example where people
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  Speaker 1: are a little intimidated by it. Obviously it's complicated, there's
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  Speaker 1: professionals or an X ray welded stuff on submarines and whatever,
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  Speaker 1: and not walking away from the class with that, but
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  Speaker 1: just the stigma that comes into being a guy that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't really know walking into the welding shop, walking into
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  Speaker 1: the metal shop, and you're just like standard dad that
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  Speaker 1: walks in and it's okay, here's the metal shop guy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it's and you get a little scared.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah no, and that's natural, and that's like kind of
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  Speaker 4: what I love. This class.
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  Speaker 3: I set up to basically try to equip people to
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  Speaker 3: be able to buy a welder, unbox it, plug it in,
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  Speaker 3: turn it on, and also know all the supporting elements
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  Speaker 3: that you need, like where to buy the metal, the
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  Speaker 3: basic lingo of metal shops, into the attitude because you're right,
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  Speaker 3: and you go into If you're not someone who's used
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  Speaker 3: to going into these places, they are intimidating and usually.
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  Speaker 1: People are primarily trade basic.
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  Speaker 3: They're selling to commercial applications. They're selling thousands of pounds
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  Speaker 3: of steel and you're coming in for one hundred pounds
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  Speaker 3: of steel. And if you come in with your local
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  Speaker 3: hardware store attitude being like I'm working on my truck,
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  Speaker 3: what do you think, they're like, I don't know out here.
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  Speaker 3: So there's some basic things that I feel like it's
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  Speaker 3: fun to be able to share with people. Hey know,
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  Speaker 3: the metal thickness you're going to want? No, you have
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  Speaker 3: that stuff decided, and I give them a brief of
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  Speaker 3: most common ones and then you can go in there
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  Speaker 3: and tell them, Hey, I need ten sticks of one
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  Speaker 3: by two sixteenth wall and they'll be like, yep, no problem.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know what that means?
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  Speaker 4: Come to thirty class a little bit, but yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So that's basically like one of my favorite things is,
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  Speaker 3: regardless of the topic, if people have an eagerness to
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  Speaker 3: learn a skill but feel intimidated to learn it or
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  Speaker 3: ask someone or they don't. A lot of people don't
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  Speaker 3: feel comfortable, will feel embarrassed to ask somebody about something
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  Speaker 3: they don't know.
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  Speaker 4: That is I've never really had that in my life.
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  Speaker 3: Like better stuff, I appreciate that I do and I
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  Speaker 3: just haven't had that. I do it purposefully, but I
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  Speaker 3: want to share that with other people because I think
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  Speaker 3: that's a good way to be for if you want
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  Speaker 3: to be able to learn stuff. I love watching people
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  Speaker 3: go from feeling like they're unable to do something or
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  Speaker 3: they would like to but they're too shy, to being like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: if I can do this, I know what I'm doing
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  Speaker 3: and change that mindset because regards or less of the topic,
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  Speaker 3: whether it be welding or metalworking, being outdoors or camping
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  Speaker 3: for the first time, or whatever it might be, once
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  Speaker 3: you open their eyes to that. It empowers them across
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  Speaker 3: so many other areas in their own life. It's not
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  Speaker 3: like they just discovered that they could be confident in
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  Speaker 3: one area. It translates, and I think is a life
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  Speaker 3: skill DIY. If you become a DIY guy, then you
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  Speaker 3: look at problems differently. You look at problems like you
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  Speaker 3: could solve them, versus.
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  Speaker 1: I got to call that guy fixed on the money.
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  Speaker 3: I did women shose sales at Nordstrom, and I went
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  Speaker 3: from being just a salesperson to being an assistant manager
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  Speaker 3: to be in the first assistant manager. And the biggest
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  Speaker 3: thing was that when I became a manager, I realized
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  Speaker 3: that the manager didn't know more than I knew.
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  Speaker 4: He just made the decisions. So I'd be like, I
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  Speaker 4: got this problem, what do I do?
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  Speaker 3: And he'd be like, And then it became me and
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  Speaker 3: I realized that, oh, like I just have to make
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  Speaker 3: a decision and I'm just gonna do that. I'll take
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  Speaker 3: care of this. Oh there's a spill, Okay, go get
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  Speaker 3: them up. I'll do it, not like help, I need
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  Speaker 3: someone to clean this up. To change that mentality in
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  Speaker 3: a lot of different areas, it's a nice life skill
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  Speaker 3: in a good way.
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  Speaker 1: It's just nice to learn how to do things with
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  Speaker 1: your hands. Oh yeah, a lot of people don't work
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  Speaker 1: with their hands these days, and I think that's a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a shame. I like working on my
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  Speaker 1: new thing is carburetors. Like I taught myself how to
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  Speaker 1: work on Carburetors podcast. But my dad lives in Chicago,
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  Speaker 1: that's where I'm from. I live in Arizona, And it
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  Speaker 1: became this really cool thing of facetiming with my dad
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  Speaker 1: to figure out how to now what I recommend you
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  Speaker 1: start with like a small block Chevy and like a
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  Speaker 1: single block carb because I started with a vintage nine
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  Speaker 1: to eleven with six webers and that was fun learning
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  Speaker 1: how to jet that for altitude and all this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But the point being is like it was a skill
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  Speaker 1: that like really intimidated me, and then I wasn't. I
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  Speaker 1: was like scared of a certain type of car, a
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  Speaker 1: certain type of automotive thing. And now I'm like, heck, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I can do that. Yeah, And then I go into
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  Speaker 1: the next thing that I learned. Oh, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: learn how to do a distributor. I'm gonna learn how
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  Speaker 1: to time the car. I'm going to set my plug gap.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to do this. I'm we do all these
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  Speaker 1: things that It starts with that one small thing, and
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  Speaker 1: it can be in a hobby people are learning how
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  Speaker 1: to weld, maybe for doing some DIY stuff on their
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  Speaker 1: overland vehicle or whatnot. But then that leads to, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to build my drawer system. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: build my battery system. It's just giving people that initial
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  Speaker 1: push in the right direction and a little bit of confidence,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that's a great thing.
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  Speaker 5: I think I've also noticed too, like I found unafraid
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  Speaker 5: to try new things as a personality trade and I'm
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  Speaker 5: grateful that's natural because I realize it's not for everybody.
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  Speaker 5: But I think one of the biggest skills for me
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  Speaker 5: is being owning humility and not in a self deprecating way,
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  Speaker 5: but just coming in and maybe I get to play
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  Speaker 5: the female card a little bit in these elements, but
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  Speaker 5: coming in and just be like, hey, I'm new, this
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  Speaker 5: is what I think I'm doing. I don't need your help.
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  Speaker 5: I want to do that, but like setting the stage
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  Speaker 5: for this is my project and where I'm starting from.
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  Speaker 5: But I want to learn and as soon as you
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  Speaker 5: convey that however that needs to fit with the expert
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  Speaker 5: you're going that you might be intimidated by. I found
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  Speaker 5: that that removes a barrier for a lot of big,
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  Speaker 5: tough professionals who know what they're doing. Yeah, and then
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  Speaker 5: suddenly like now you have a conversation where they're willing
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  Speaker 5: to break it down just a little bit, and now
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  Speaker 5: there's a bit of a relationship. And to me, that's
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  Speaker 5: been a huge confidence booster as I worked through like things,
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  Speaker 5: I just have no much but I'm like, but I
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  Speaker 5: want to figure it out. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's a good point the way that you
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  Speaker 3: approach new things or way that you approach situations, if
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  Speaker 3: you can be quietly confident enough in yourself to be
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  Speaker 3: truly just humble. Hey, Like I was telling everyone at
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  Speaker 3: the beginning class, like there might be someone in here
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  Speaker 3: who knows a lot more about welding than I do.
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  Speaker 3: That is totally fine, Like, I don't need to be
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  Speaker 3: the expert. I'm where I'm at, and I'm here asking
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  Speaker 3: for help is like giving somebody a gift. Like people,
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  Speaker 3: there's that level of em instantly coming to you and
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, I respect you, can you help me?
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  Speaker 1: It's learning a couple key words in a language. Ye,
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  Speaker 1: to make an effort to get yourself in the door. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you don't need to learn every word of Japanese.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, like I'm here.
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  Speaker 1: I made it hurt. I'm not just like walking into
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  Speaker 1: your metal supply store.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's respect.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah exactly however that looks, and so you're coming in
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  Speaker 5: just with a little nod of recep.
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  Speaker 1: Yah if you walk into metal store, Oh can I
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  Speaker 1: have some of that flat stuff? That's hard? I think
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  Speaker 1: magnets stick to it. And you like pull up in
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  Speaker 1: a Prius and the guy's gonna look at you, like
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  Speaker 1: most of my customers drive twelve valve Commons and you
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  Speaker 1: look like an idiot.
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  Speaker 3: There's some simile strategies to how you can dress and
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  Speaker 3: drive to these places. But yeah, that's one of my
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  Speaker 3: things I think is I think it's really important. I
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  Speaker 3: think it translates over a lot more than just doing
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  Speaker 3: anything overland related.
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  Speaker 1: Is there anybody from your class that stuck out that
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  Speaker 1: you saw that transformation in?
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  Speaker 4: I probably so.
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  Speaker 3: I've been pulling everybody in the class that they've ever
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  Speaker 3: welded before, and I had about three ladies in my
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  Speaker 3: first class who'd never got to weld and got to
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  Speaker 3: break that down for them and let them try for
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  Speaker 3: the very first time, and they were supers.
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  Speaker 4: It was any somebody.
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  Speaker 3: Who's never had any experience but has been eager, that's
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  Speaker 3: super fun. I think the ones that stand out the
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  Speaker 3: most are the really young kids. I have kids myself.
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  Speaker 3: I love working with kids, and because I think when
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  Speaker 3: you're a kid, it's it's that same go into an
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  Speaker 3: intimidating atmosphere for an adult, like it might be the gym,
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  Speaker 3: it might be the metal supply store, it might be
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  Speaker 3: the auto shop. Every room you enter into is full
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  Speaker 3: of people who.
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  Speaker 1: Are like you're literally a child entering the room.
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  Speaker 3: So I love to try and instill confidence. I love
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  Speaker 3: to get on their level and have that up because
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  Speaker 3: I don't think a lot of people take advantage of
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  Speaker 3: how special and how rewarding that is to work with
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  Speaker 3: someone who truly wants to learn and doesn't feel intimidated,
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  Speaker 3: but is learning something like actually complex or like a
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  Speaker 3: high level skill. And so that's for me, that's I
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  Speaker 3: love that. I had a couple of kids this morning.
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  Speaker 3: One was eleven, I think the other one was like nine.
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  Speaker 3: In the welding jacket, the giant gloves and the mask
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  Speaker 3: and stuff, and they did some amazing, like really good welds.
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  Speaker 1: It's awesome. That might totally change those people's lives, right,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's maybe I'm going to become a welder, so
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  Speaker 1: oh I can do this thing that looks really complicated.
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  Speaker 1: I know what's going on there, the initial knowledge that
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  Speaker 1: allows other things to follow on. Yeah, that's really cool.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be any area of their life where
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  Speaker 3: now they've just they've basically conquered that hurdle of here's
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  Speaker 3: this thing that's intimidating and hard, and I learned how
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  Speaker 3: to do it, and that applies to anything intimidating and hard.
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  Speaker 5: What the version of well, because there's a few different
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  Speaker 5: versions of welding, what are you doing in the class
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  Speaker 5: Mike welding?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so gas shielded mike welding.
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  Speaker 1: Which is that has the stick with the trigger.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got a ground clamp, you clamp to clean
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  Speaker 3: metal near you where you're going to weld, and you
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  Speaker 3: got your kind of whip basically they call it or
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  Speaker 3: a trigger. You got trigger and outcomes some filler metal
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  Speaker 3: and arc starts and the arc is so hot that
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  Speaker 3: it melts both materials into kind of molten metal.
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  Speaker 1: Like your standard DIY, like I buy the little Lincoln welder.
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  Speaker 3: No, so maybe the smallest ones are often like stick
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  Speaker 3: welders or flux core welders.
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  Speaker 4: Gas shielded and MiG welders.
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  Speaker 3: Are actually one of the more expensive machines that you
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  Speaker 3: can It's worthwhile the initial investment is worth it over
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  Speaker 3: the long run because the MiG welding is one of
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  Speaker 3: the easiest to learn, especially gas shielded. You get clean,
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  Speaker 3: great results, and you can really grow into those machines.
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  Speaker 3: The machines we were using today are multiprocess, so they
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  Speaker 3: can do a bunch of different stick tig make.
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  Speaker 1: Who makes the machines that you were using.
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  Speaker 3: I personally use a Forny machine, the first welder I
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  Speaker 3: got five years ago. I've been lucky enough to keep
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  Speaker 3: working with them. My machine's always been great. It was
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  Speaker 3: like around fifteen to seventeen hundred dollars, but I actually
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  Speaker 3: won that on Instagram giveaway through that company, so I've
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  Speaker 3: been working with them since then. When I got invited
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  Speaker 3: to do this class, I reached out to them and
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: was like, Hey, I'm having this full circle moment right now.
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  Speaker 3: I'm now being asked to do what my neighbor did
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  Speaker 3: for me. Each this class and here's the ropes, this
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  Speaker 3: is what you need. And I was like, can we
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  Speaker 3: also get a full welding setup like I had that
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  Speaker 3: I could give away to somebody.
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  Speaker 1: Perpetuates the circ that Jumpstar.
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  Speaker 3: Forty supplied the machine gloves, pro masks, angle grinder, all
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  Speaker 3: the consumables, welding jacket, everything you need to get started.
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  Speaker 3: Almost three thousand dollars a gear and they sent that
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  Speaker 3: out here and then someone's going to walk away with
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  Speaker 3: that tonight, someone who took the class and tried.
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  Speaker 4: So you got to take the.
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  Speaker 1: Class, I might just walk away with it.
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  Speaker 5: That would be like you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, But to answer your question like what machine, it's
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  Speaker 3: like automotive hit the top five, Like you're not going
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  Speaker 3: to go wrong, okay, so.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to shift gears here. One of the things
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  Speaker 1: I followed you last on was you bought this Ranger
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  Speaker 1: and it came from Copart and it had a salvage
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  Speaker 1: title and there was something wrong with it, but it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't like a bad car. What's scoop with that?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: So that's a twenty twenty one Ford Ranger. It's a
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  Speaker 3: lariat interior and it has the trimmer package, so it's
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  Speaker 3: basically top of the top you could buy for that year.
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  Speaker 3: It had sixty two thousand miles on it, and it
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  Speaker 3: had been rear ended, but lightly rear ended, so it
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  Speaker 3: got punched in back of the toe hitch and bent
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  Speaker 3: the frame right behind the leaf hangers. A pretty easy
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  Speaker 3: fix if you have a welder and a little no how.
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  Speaker 3: I cut reliefs in the frame and bent it back
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  Speaker 3: and patched it up and stuff. And so I bought
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  Speaker 3: that truck for eleven seven hundred.
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  Speaker 1: Those things are like probably thirty grand.
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  Speaker 3: They're like forty five to fifty for the trimmer package.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a big deal.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really nice.
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  Speaker 3: It has rear locker, has built in switches and whatnot.
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  Speaker 3: This is a twenty twenty one. And then after I
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  Speaker 3: got it home and shipped and everything, I was probably
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  Speaker 3: into it like fifteen thousand bucks. But we've put forty
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  Speaker 3: thousand miles on it problem free since then since I
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  Speaker 3: fixed it, And yeah, it's been a great truck.
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  Speaker 4: That's my next.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you bought that truck new, it would have
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: lost the value that you paid.
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: By now, I was just doing like a press drive
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: for a manufacturer, like chesting out one of their new
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: family vehicles and I love it, and I'm like, this
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: is amazing. But it was north of eighty thousand dollars
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, okay, what's the math on this. I'm
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: paying like over thousand dollars a month for it, and
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, Google, how much does this depreciate in
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: five years?
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: You'll lose fifty.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: Thousand dollars in five years. I'm like, okay, it's gotten
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: so expect like who buys that?
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: Or I don't mean like that in a negative way.
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: I just mean I want to get on your level
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: where I can go to the dealer and buy something
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: I experience.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: It's not worth it. You'll still have the regret. The
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: thing is two that says no regret.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And so that's like kind of to make the
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: point with the Ranger. If you learn some of these
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: skills that are intimidating but turn out to be rather
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: easy to pick up, and you practice to where you're
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: safe with them, you pick up a vehicle at ten
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: percent of the price and have one hundred percent of
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: the same enjoyment that someone else had who drove the
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: ranger to sixty thousand miles, and now you're sitting.
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: At the stoplight.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: You paid eleven thousand, he paid forty thousand, and you're
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: driving experiences exactly. You are both experiencing the road the
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: same way. One of you might have a Rolex on,
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: but it might be the guy who saved all the
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: money on the truck and actually have money to buy
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: a Rolex.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: As he pulls back, I'm going to call it a
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: Daytona because it looks like a Daytona.
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: It's modeled after. It's this sensible man's Daytona.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: It's a way better use of money spend the money
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: on travel.
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: Actually wanted. I love expensive watches.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: It's like it makes me like an inch taller or something.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: So you got a rock in a fancy watch. I
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: think like everything is getting so expensive and you have
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: to find these ways to economize and save money, particularly
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: like in this space. Like you were saying before when
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: we were chatting, you buy the sixty thousand dollars Toyota,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: you put the you spend a couple of grand in
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: a roof rock, a couple grand on a roof tent,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: a couple grand and a bumper, a couple of grand
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: on suspension, a couple of grand and wheels and tires,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: a refrigerator in lights. Before you know it, you've just
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: vomited one hundred thousand dollars. And that's crazy.
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: You think about like the end goal.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: The end goal is to travel and to explore and
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: to experience things, and so much of that expensive stuff
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: is all around and admittedly, like I'm super guilty of it.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: We're talking about with under overland, under budget, we're trying
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: to be more day. So I brought my friend that
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: has another big expedition truck here, so we're.
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: We're at credibility, we're experts on budgets.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: But it's all just become crazy the high end. Like
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: we were talking like you just got your GXV hilt
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: or storyteller GXV hilt. It's a mouthful. I have an
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Earth rum where I have an older one, but for
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: me to buy another Earth Rummer is twice a hilt.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: It's crazy, like the things that everything has gotten so expensive.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: I mean the Msrpano Winnebeg of rebels two hundred and
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: fifty four thousand dollars. It don't sell for that now,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: but there's a point where they were a tacoma is
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: like sixty grand for the one you want. Yeah, that's crazy.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: It's not that long ago that it was thirty. It's
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: so easy to end up in the situation where you've
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: spent all the money on the stuff, but then you
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: either have to then work so hard to pay for
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: the stuff that you can't spend the time to get out,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: or you don't have the money to get out. And
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: I think it's so important. And I love what you're doing.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Your tacoma that you built. You still have a camp
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: around the back. You built most of it yourself. That's amazing.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: And I think if people had more of these skills,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: it just allows more folks to get out.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: I feel like I got a preface too, like with
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: the name Overland and a budget, a lot of focus
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: being on like saving money, not spending money stuff. I'm
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: an ambitious person. My wife is an ambitious person. We
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: hope to be millionaires, and we're working towards that, like
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: with investments, and I like, work hard, make a lot
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: of money.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, be the best you can be.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: But the other side of that is be smart with
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: your money, for sure, and some people just don't have
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: that mentality or like maybe they didn't get that from
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: their parents or whatnot. So it's not about feeling like
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: those options are above like the.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: One pist of value of money.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just silly to be like, it's not
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: like it's me against the one percent rich. It's more
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: just I just don't see the purpose of spinning that
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: much to have that experience. When I can do this
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: experience for lesson, I feel like I want the people
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: who didn't have that option as a kid, Like growing up,
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: I grew up in a family that was outdoors all
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: the time.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: I grew up around farm equipment.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: I grew up on motorcycles and in cars and trucks
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: and going to a monster truck show. So I was like
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: immersed into the outdoors in the off road. But there's
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: lots of kids who might be growing up in a
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: city and never really get to go outside. Their parents
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: weren't outdoors people. They don't know how to they've never
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: been camping, and they've never been on like a road
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: trip like that.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: And then those people grow up and have kids.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: And they're like, how do we do it?
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: Like I really want to get my camp.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Yoshi's great with that take a lot of folks like
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: camp City and they get people out and introduces so
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: many new people to that. They're a really great organization
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: to check out. They're just camp Yoshi's really Instagram.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: And got to interview them and stuff and they're really nice.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: But yeah, the point being when I would see that
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: and the same thing of breaking down the veil for skills,
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: for teaching people things they feel intimidated about.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: It's I don't get worked up about it.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: I think it's sad though that some people who don't
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: have any of that experience go and be like, Okay,
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: you know what, we're going to get outdoors as a family.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: We're going to go do these camp trips. What do
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: I need to do?
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Anywhere they go to they look into the industry of
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: what are these people doing?
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: You don't see. What you don't see is that you
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: really don't need much at all to get outdoors. What
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: do you need?
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Like you need a good, warm, comfortable sleeping bag and
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: a sleeping pad. And then once you see, oh I'm
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: going to be driving remote or wait, maybe I should
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: have five gallons of gas and a Jerry can. Okay,
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: maybe I just need a gallon of water in case.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: It's basic stuff, yeah, the very basic stuff, and then
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: if everything beyond that can evolve with one key, you don't.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Get into this stuff genuinely. Like when I was really
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: young and I was working for overll in journal I
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: had a pelican case. Like I wasn't making much money,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: like writers don't make that much money. I had a
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: pelican case. I had like a jet boil. I had
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: a sleeping pad, I had a used tent. I got
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: everybody's hand me down gear, right, but I had this
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: the larger pelican case, like three feet by two feet,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: and I would just hey, can I come with And
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I'd throw it in the back of somebody's truck and
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I was self sufficient. Would I bumped some beers? Yeah?
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: What if somebody said, hey, I'll cook for you. Yeah,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: that was like great because I didn't have to eat
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: noodles out of a jet boil. But it allowed me
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: to get out and I saw so much of the
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: world with that mentality. And frankly, like you could put
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: together that kit for a couple hundred dollars if you were.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: Glamorous on social media. And I think we're also the
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: generation that is really exposed to images and maybe not
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: a lot of backstory. We're just trying to capture everything
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: in a shot because we have your attention for two seconds.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: And I think we have to admit that the pretty
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: aesthetics are what sells most of the time. You've been
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: doing this for a long time. See, this isn't a
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: gimmick for social media for you to get clicks and
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: likes and whatever. Like, You've been around long enough with
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: a consistent message that this is authentically you. So now
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: I think like even that builds credibility, and you're just
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: illuminating a different way of doing it that doesn't always
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: get highlighted because the pretty, new, shiny stuff is what sells.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: I think you have to stay true to yourself. And
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: I started in the beginning. I still am just sharing
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: something I'm passionate about. And the main thing I'm passionate
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: about is the outdoors. It's not necessarily I only want
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: to experience it through a car, Like the car is
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: the vehicle to get me somewhere new and or go
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: away from the car. And so yeah, that's stayed consistent
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: because that's just part of who I am. I love
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: being outside, I love seeing new places. I love automotive
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: stuff since I was a kid, I grew up around it. Yeah,
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: I think it's important to be able to help empower
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: people to feel like they can go outdoors and they
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: don't need to make this giant investment.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: As a community, we all need to about backpackage camping
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: somewhere and like the the Cruise America or a v
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: roll up down for service with the rental van with
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: the decals on it or whatever, and you're you're immediately like,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: these people don't know what they're doing, Get away from me.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Where what we really need to be doing is we'll
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: use that as an example, right, is you need to
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: go introduce yourself, help be there. Just if you need anything,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: let me know. Maybe maybe maybe.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: Somebody experienced and they just wanted to try.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: You're going to learn something. But just being a little
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: as a community, being a little bit more open, like
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: particular at these events, there's a lot of people that
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: you know are at the big thing that come to
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: events like over the expo or whatever. This is this
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: is their first trip. This is where they're getting inspired.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: This is where they're like, that's the thing is what's
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: the what's your big thing that you're doing after this?
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Get inspired? But as a community being learning that we
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: need to be a little more open, a little more
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna say inclusive, just.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: As never a such where being the tough guy is
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: going to actually move you forward.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah and yeah, that applies to everything.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: We all need to do better on that one.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: The real reason is we see to be better people
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: in general.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: You are you especially?
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you work on that. I could all work on
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: that one. So the other truck that you have is
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: your Tacoma. You still have that.
• 24:23
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• 24:27
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• 24:46
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• 24:54
  Speaker 6: for supporting travelers in both Grenadiers and sprinters, whether it's outfitting, maintenance,
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: or helping with complex expedition builds. I have seen their
• 25:04
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• 25:10
  Speaker 6: vehicle training, and remote technical support. It also helps that
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: Tony Warner is an Overlander himself, so he is committed
• 25:18
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• 25:33
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• 25:41
  Speaker 3: So currently it has three hundred and seven thousand miles
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: on it.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: There's nothing cooler than it's a coma with a heck
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: load of.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: Miles, except I need to replace the engine. The Tacoma
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: is good.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: It has a small crack above one of the valve,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: which is a common issue when the five VSFE gets
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: to around like two hundred head or is it on
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: the block.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: It's on the head, Yeah, So you could just replace
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: the head.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: But what I'm going to do is probably get a
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: JDM engine fro under two grand and swap the whole
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: engine and put the supercharger on.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because like mechanic labor is so hacking expensive. Heck yeah, heck,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I have a rescue greyhound, please consider adopting one. He
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: does not like swearing. Oh nice, so I stopped swearing
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: for my dog.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: I'm all about the Heck's and the fricks and the dogs.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: Little people.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I have four kids, but yeah, the Tacoma's really good.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: That's the first truck I bought. I bought it in
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: twenty nineteen. It's funny growing up around all that stuff.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: I didn't have a truck until it's a small truck.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: What year is it.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: It's a two thousand and one Okay, And I got
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: it on Crazy.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: That truck was like the dream. Oh yeah, like way
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: back I remember like Scott Brady's Tacoma that he built
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: was like early two thousands. I'm like, oh wow, this
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: is so cool. We always like rag on it now
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: because it probably weighed eight thousand pounds. But like these
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Tacomas are like they're they're virgin on classic.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: Dad years four years old.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I about that on Craigslist. It's like seven
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: five hundred paid cash. It's the TRD has the rear locker,
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: it's the SR five package has like the power mirrors
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: and stuff. Bought it from the original family and then
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: took it home and started working on it day one.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: But so I put one hundred thousand miles on it,
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: had to replace the transmission once, and now'm gonna trace
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: place the engine.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: But it's been good.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, there's always a supply.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: That's what I also feel like I have to go
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: on record of saying. It's like I'm not a toileta freak,
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Like I'm more what vehicle out there? Don't tell me
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: the name brand, show me the specifications, and I'll pick
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: the one that that works best.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: But yeah, that truck is still good.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: I want to do that engine swap or eventually maybe
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: try something like an LS swap, because I've never done
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: anything like that.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I'll give you my truck, LS swap your taco. Why
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: not be so cool?
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: Why not.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: You have to upgrade everything downstream of it.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: I started doing the math on that, and I would because.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: By a first Gendacoma or first Gina Tundra.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: First tundra is like, I hope there's one of those
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: in a museum somewhere, because I don't know if pickup
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: trucks actually got any better than that. They got more luxurious,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: they got more powerful, they got bigger, but did they
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: get any better? More? Try the first gen Tundra.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: My brother has a ninety seven f three fifty power
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: stroke with five speed manuals for a drive that competes.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: I feel like with them, I just think it's cool
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: that you're here. That's going to feel good.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: It does feel good. It feels great.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: It feels amazing to see the transformation, to feel like
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: you're empowering somebody, to give somebody's skills. I don't know
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: what other better things you can pass on to somebody
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: as another person Outside of they'll meet someone for a
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: short amount of time and leave them with either you
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: leave them with a good or a bad impression. But
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: if you're teaching them, it's like you leave them with
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: something that's actually tangible.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: They have a new skill. Hopefully.
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: I think that's what you're doing. It opens the door
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: to oh, that wasn't a scary. The more experiences you
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: have that remove that it's not that scary, the more
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: willing you're to jump into another thing.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: And you don't have to be the expert. A lot
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: of people think you have to be the expert.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: I'm going to jump over to some DIY stuff. What
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: do you think are the best like DIY projects for
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: people to undertake on their trucks, because building a bumper
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: can be parked. There's a lot that goes into that.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Maybe you buy the bumper, maybe you buy the suspension,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Like you're not going to make your own leaf spring.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: The Tacoma I went on Craigslist and bought Old Tacoma's
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: leaf pack and opened up both leaf packs and made
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: my own like expedition leaf pack. So that's that's an
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: approachable private I feel that's a hard question to say,
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: like what's the best thing because it really should be
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: purpose driven.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Because you built like your own camper.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I started.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Campers are really expensive these days, especially the style that
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: you did. Those kind of like the bed replacement. If
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: you check out your Instagram Overland under budget you can
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: see it. It's really cool because it goes over the
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: cab a little bit, look like that fifty ten camper. Yeah,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: in a way, I've seen those, like just as like
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: a name brand city.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: I talked with him when I was.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Because you're still like Central Coast Yeah.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very inspired by shapes and designs from Australia.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: So like the tray bed itself because it's a two piece,
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: it's a tray bed with a removable camper, and that's
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: really inspired by watching foural Drive twenty four to seven
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: and seeing a lot of the Australian rigs that have
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: tray beds and they upgrade their light duty trucks, which
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: is fun to do. So it's very inspired by designs
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: on those tray beds. And then the overall aesthetic is
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: inspired a lot by actually Maltech, which is a really
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: premium career. Yeah, they have a similar design, very similar
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: design and basic shape, and so I took my basically
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: design proportions off of that, Like I was like a
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: feel for the overall design and aesthetic and then just
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: translated the measurements to what would.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: Work for me.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: So what do you have in your camper? Do you
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: have a little sink and that kind of stuff.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it goes back to what you were asking, like,
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: what's a good first project. I feel like the best
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: Verst project is going to be something that like is
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: purpose built for yourself, that like fixes a.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: Need or solves a problem for you.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: But long answer to say, what's in my camper is
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: based on what I felt like I needed for my
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: what I wanted to achieve for my camping experience.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: I wanted a truck in a system.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: That was fast in light, that I could sleep in
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: any environment, anytime of the day, any place, no matter
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: the whether, because I'm not in the position in my
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: life right now where I'm gonna have kids and wife
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: and busy life, and like I don't often get I'm
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: not planning like month long expeditions, or I'm not planning
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: even like week.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: When you have the opportunity, right, I.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Want to be able to strike. And usually what those
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: are is like, oh, hey, you want to join me,
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: like next week and go to Death Valley or tomorrow,
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: got to Death Valley, Like oh yeah, I have time,
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Actually I can go.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: And I'm going to leave at six.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Pm and get there two in the morning, and i
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: don't know where I'm going to camp, and I'm just
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: gonna pull up and I want to pop it up.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: I want to be in like my own little like
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: space capsule, like mini hotel room, like teardrop camp, but
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: on the back of my truck.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: That was my whole inspiration. So it's very minimal.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: It's a sleeping area, maximized sleeping areas, light too.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: You end up having. The less you build, the more
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: universal the use.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: And because it's also my daily driver, I can I
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: just pull sleeping pads out and I have bikes in there,
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: I have whatever in their space. Yeah, it's super handy.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: It doesn't inhibit it from being a great vehicle for me.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: Like it's actually more useful the way that it's built
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: up now than it was when it was stocked. Because
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: the cabin, I can put clothes in there. I could
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: put anything in there. It's like a camper shell.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: But where did you document that? Is that just on Instagram?
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Or do you have all too.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: Overland under budget on all platforms.
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: I love it because you also like compartmentalized everything. If
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: you had an idea for space or wanting to score
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: something like He's got all the go go gadget pop outs.
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: Ye.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: I love that aspect.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Beyond the basic, build what works for you and try
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: and solve your problems. I love getting deeper into design.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: I love design and aesthetics, industrial design, like furniture chairs,
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff inspires me and so I
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: love to try and when I'm thinking of how to
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: solve my problem, how can I simplify it the most
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: how can I make it the most elegant and match
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: my aesthetics? So that just gets me excited. I like
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: working on stuff like that. So yeah, it's basically a
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: big sleeping area. It's got a diesel heater, it's got
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: dimmable lighting, that's got windows, it's got fans.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: You do the Chinese diesel heater, Yeah, yeah, they work well.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: The cool thing is what the I won't name the
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: name brands, but the ones who I think you did
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: a lot.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Of the design.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: The R and D on him is a German brand's
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: super high quality German or English, and they could be
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: like close to two thousand dollars. The Chinese ripoffs, unfortunately,
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: is a thing in they're one hundred bucks one hundred
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: and fifty very expensive.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: German one has two settings off and eight thousand degrees. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: I can choose your path.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's got lighting and everything. It's basically like I said,
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: show up in any environment and you're comfortable. That was
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: like my goal because that's what I knew like I
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: was going to be doing.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: It enables you to do what you want to do. Yeah,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Like we all have these realities, like you have a
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: family and that's like super important. And I think people
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: see these like online personas that's, oh, this is you're
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: an overland guy. I'm like, yeah, like I still have
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: to go to a Thanksgiving and stuff too.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: It's like a guy who loves the outdoors and loves
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: building things, and I love all aspects of it, but
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: more than anything, it's like I want to get outdoors
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: and I enjoy automobiles regardless. And so there's no sync,
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: there's no toilet, there is no of that stuff. Like
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: I'm camping like outside. My next build on the Ranger
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: is going to be a little different and be a
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: little bit more camper focused because now that the Ranger
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: can't fit us all, we just had our fourth and
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: it's okay, hands on, it's gonna be just me and
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: one other person probably, so I'm gonna have fun like
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: hopefully making a pass through making.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: I'm just inspired by your DIY approach to things. You're like,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: it's accessible, not trying to just promote the most expensive
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: of craziest things that are on the planet, and trying
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: to inspire people to just give things a shot.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: So I appreciate that.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Thank you. I can't thank you enough for coming out.
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: And I think the community loves you. I think I
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: don't think there's anybody that interacts with you that the
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: feedback is always just like how real you are and
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: how you're enjoyable to work with. So it's great having
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: you as a pillar, and I'm glad to see this
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: event highlighting and bringing you to the front.
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: For that because I think it's important. It's a good guy.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: So thanks for tuning into the Overlain Journal podcast. It
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: was so great to have my co host Julian Rebecca here,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Micha ih from Overlin and her budget and we'll see
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: you next time.