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- 0:35Speaker 2: I'm your host, Adam Todd Brown joining me his co
- 0:37Speaker 2: host this week, Connors Here. How's it going, man?
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- 2:25Speaker 2: So this is a story. You're probably not going to
- 2:29Speaker 2: hear about unless you live in Los Angeles like a
- 2:31Speaker 2: goddamn adult like me and Connor do.
- 2:34Speaker 1: Yeah, unless you pay twenty eight hundred dollars a month
- 2:36Speaker 1: for a studio and nine dollars for a banana.
- 2:39Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's great. It's great.
- 2:41Speaker 1: Don't even get me started in the price of a
- 2:43Speaker 1: banana phone. If you want a cool, ironic Juno as
- 2:45Speaker 1: banana phone.
- 2:46Speaker 2: You can get one here.
- 2:47Speaker 1: They're around. You know how many times I've been dumped
- 2:50Speaker 1: by a chick talking into a banana phone in this
- 2:52Speaker 1: city the price of twenty eight hundred dollars a month
- 2:55Speaker 1: for a studio.
- 2:56Speaker 2: In late November, fire destroyed a home in LA's Laurel
- 3:00Speaker 2: Canyon neighborhood. You might recognize that name from our episode
- 3:05Speaker 2: about how the CIA basically started the counterculture movement. There
- 3:10Speaker 2: all your dad's favorite sixties rock stars were in Laurel
- 3:14Speaker 2: Canyon and probably the children of military intelligence.
- 3:18Speaker 1: And they're all like, is it just mered? Does this
- 3:21Speaker 1: LSD make you kind of like respect the man? Right?
- 3:25Speaker 3: Just a little?
- 3:26Speaker 1: No? Am I crazy?
- 3:28Speaker 2: And like it's it's fine that they were all cops.
- 3:30Speaker 2: It doesn't make the Doors second album not good Strange
- 3:34Speaker 2: Days is a great album.
- 3:35Speaker 1: See I'm I'm glad you're It's become very in vogue
- 3:38Speaker 1: for some reason to shit on the doors, I know,
- 3:41Speaker 1: like whether like however vapid. You might find their lyrics
- 3:44Speaker 1: to be like, it's whatever. It's like, the motherfucker can sing,
- 3:47Speaker 1: The motherfuckers can play together, they can write a song.
- 3:51Speaker 1: It is undeniably enjoyable. Even as background music, it is enjoyable. So, yes,
- 3:56Speaker 1: the doors are fine.
- 3:58Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 3:58Speaker 1: Jim Morrison though, was a Yeah.
- 4:00Speaker 2: I like the music of the doors, And I think
- 4:03Speaker 2: Jim Morrison was probably a cop. It's fine, it's fine.
- 4:06Speaker 1: I like the office and the guy that plays Jim
- 4:08Speaker 1: to the cop, you know, everybody exactly.
- 4:11Speaker 2: So this house was on Lookout Mountain Avenue, great drive
- 4:14Speaker 2: by Trucker's song called Lookout Mountain. And here's the twist.
- 4:18Speaker 2: There was a body found inside the house after the
- 4:21Speaker 2: fire was put out, and it was revealed that the
- 4:23Speaker 2: body was that of William Roth's child of the notorious
- 4:28Speaker 2: in conspiracy circles Roth's child family.
- 4:32Speaker 1: And no it's not the dentists from Long Island. It's uh,
- 4:35Speaker 1: there was the real you know Nestley Nestley.
- 4:38Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it could be the dentist from Long
- 4:40Speaker 2: Island too. It seems like they're all over the globe now.
- 4:43Speaker 1: They'd be fucking from what I mean, when you got money,
- 4:45Speaker 1: what are you gonna do with? Fuck? I mean, I
- 4:48Speaker 1: really wish that this had turned out to be like
- 4:50Speaker 1: once upon a time in Hollywood scenario with a flamethrower
- 4:54Speaker 1: in the Hollywood Hills. But I don't think it's to be.
- 4:57Speaker 2: Probably not. And people listen and then, if you've ever
- 5:00Speaker 2: heard a conspiracy that claims Jews control all of the
- 5:04Speaker 2: world's banks, it's usually the Rothschild family that people are
- 5:08Speaker 2: talking about. Their history dates back to the sixteenth century
- 5:13Speaker 2: in Frankfurt, Germany. To this day, they are still described
- 5:16Speaker 2: as a banking family.
- 5:18Speaker 1: They are so rich that there are people who believe
- 5:20Speaker 1: they are lizards for reasons completely unrelated to their judaism.
- 5:24Speaker 2: Right, well, allegedly, well.
- 5:26Speaker 1: And sometimes it's pretty related. Unfortunately, that's that it would
- 5:30Speaker 1: be an Yeah, David Ike in the nineties really just
- 5:32Speaker 1: stuck even were lizards.
- 5:33Speaker 2: So they established their first banking business in the seventeen
- 5:37Speaker 2: sixties that quickly grew into a network of businesses all
- 5:41Speaker 2: across Europe. At one point during the nineteenth century, possessed
- 5:45Speaker 2: the largest private fortune in the world. Damn, how did you?
- 5:49Speaker 2: How did they know?
- 5:50Speaker 1: Though?
- 5:51Speaker 3: How do they?
- 5:51Speaker 1: Like?
- 5:51Speaker 2: Did they there was no internet?
- 5:54Speaker 1: There is? Yeah, I thought you were going to say,
- 5:56Speaker 1: how did the Rothschilds know? And I was going to
- 5:57Speaker 1: share my favorite Rothschild tidbit, But yeah, that is kind
- 6:01Speaker 1: of when they're like, well, this guy had the most jams,
- 6:03Speaker 1: so technically he was the first African billionaire. So well,
- 6:06Speaker 1: I suppose if we're adjusted for yamflation at the price
- 6:10Speaker 1: of four huts per am.
- 6:11Speaker 2: And I mean, this is a free wheel and bonus episode.
- 6:14Speaker 2: You can still share your favorite Rothschild tidbit whatever it was.
- 6:17Speaker 1: And honestly, now that I'm thinking about it, a price of
- 6:19Speaker 1: four huts per yam is a highly deflationary market for
- 6:24Speaker 1: the yam, in which the yam is holding an extreme
- 6:27Speaker 1: value where food must be incredibly scarce. But I digressed.
- 6:29Speaker 1: The first Rothschild, the one that who made the fortune.
- 6:33Speaker 1: He's kind of misquoted on this, but what he essentially
- 6:35Speaker 1: said was when there's blood in the streets by you know,
- 6:38Speaker 1: like when it's World War three and it's the Great
- 6:40Speaker 1: Depression and the market to zero.
- 6:41Speaker 3: Buy zero is a good price for the market. That's
- 6:43Speaker 3: the market of stocks that's going to go back up eventually.
- 6:46Speaker 3: You want to bet against the military industrial complex. Like
- 6:50Speaker 3: what he actually said was, you know, what would you
- 6:53Speaker 3: buy if you're going to buy anything right now. You're
- 6:55Speaker 3: a very wealthy manager, mister Roschild, and he said, I
- 6:58Speaker 3: would buy rents in London and the guy I said,
- 7:00Speaker 3: but my god, in London right now there's blood in
- 7:02Speaker 3: the streets. And the first ross Child said, that's why
- 7:06Speaker 3: rents are cheat, which is even kind of even more gagster.
- 7:10Speaker 3: But that's that is my favorite Roschild funtact and just
- 7:13Speaker 3: a generally a good investing tip.
- 7:15Speaker 2: Yeah, that is solid money advice. It's said that their
- 7:18Speaker 2: wealth declined a bit in the twentieth century and was
- 7:22Speaker 2: eventually divided up among a bunch of descendants. But they're
- 7:26Speaker 2: still fucking loaded. Their net worth in total is in
- 7:30Speaker 2: the billions, still tied to everything from financial services to
- 7:35Speaker 2: real estate, mining, energy, fucking wine making.
- 7:39Speaker 1: I think sex with Jay Electronica. He did a Rothschild.
- 7:42Speaker 1: That's pretty cool for a rapper, did a Rothschild.
- 7:45Speaker 2: That is that's that's Illuminati cred, right, there. That's impressive.
- 7:49Speaker 2: And as mentioned already, they are at the center of
- 7:52Speaker 2: damn near every conspiracy that boils down to the Jews,
- 7:56Speaker 2: and those are the basics. To explain everything about the
- 7:59Speaker 2: roths Childs and the conspiracies surrounding them would take a
- 8:03Speaker 2: bunch of episodes, and we should do that someday. I
- 8:07Speaker 2: would do a couple sodes about the roths Childs.
- 8:10Speaker 1: I think people over and underestimate their influence so much,
- 8:13Speaker 1: and it's the kind of thing that deserves a nice
- 8:16Speaker 1: deep dive for sure, and a very easy group to
- 8:19Speaker 1: be like, well, it's the roths Child's and it's like, well,
- 8:21Speaker 1: I mean, tangentially, they're an aspect of whatever you're talking about, probably,
- 8:26Speaker 1: but like you know, they're not like the Boogeyman of everything. Yeah,
- 8:30Speaker 1: but for.
- 8:31Speaker 2: Now, let's get back to the roths child who just
- 8:35Speaker 2: died in La the house this guy died in shockingly
- 8:39Speaker 2: modest or being a descendant of the cabal that controls
- 8:43Speaker 2: the world. Real estate listings describe it as an eight
- 8:46Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five square foot two bedroom home worth
- 8:49Speaker 2: about one million dollars. Wow, that sounds like a lot
- 8:53Speaker 2: to people in other parts of the country. I'm sure,
- 8:57Speaker 2: and it is, don't get me wrong.
- 8:58Speaker 1: This is in the Las starter house price.
- 9:01Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I used to work with a guy who
- 9:03Speaker 2: bought a house in Venice, and granted this would have
- 9:06Speaker 2: been like, you know, eight ten years ago, but he
- 9:09Speaker 2: paid a million dollars and it was a one bedroom house.
- 9:13Speaker 2: It was tiny as shit, and so a one like
- 9:16Speaker 2: a one million dollar house in Laurel Canyon, that's the
- 9:19Speaker 2: Hollywood Hills.
- 9:20Speaker 1: I thought it must be a really shitty house. What
- 9:22Speaker 1: is it haunted? Like, how do you get a house
- 9:23Speaker 1: to cost that chief in that neighborhood?
- 9:25Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, and it like it's hard to
- 9:28Speaker 2: tell now because all the pictures of it it fucking
- 9:30Speaker 2: burned out, so you don't really see what it looked like.
- 9:33Speaker 2: But in the interviews with neighbors, no one's like, also,
- 9:36Speaker 2: that piece of shit house he was in? How about that?
- 9:39Speaker 2: So I don't know. What if Laurel Canyon is just
- 9:41Speaker 2: secretly super affordable and that's actually the most expensive house there,
- 9:46Speaker 2: that would be cool.
- 9:47Speaker 1: Yeah, how would they be keeping that a secret from us?
- 9:49Speaker 1: I don't know. They figure it out, I guess.
- 9:51Speaker 2: I mean, it's all the intelligence community up there still probably.
- 9:54Speaker 1: So. Say, if you just park a bunch of Bentleys
- 9:56Speaker 1: down at the bottom of the hill and once you
- 9:58Speaker 1: drive up, it's all Toyota roll is from the late eighties.
- 10:01Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like Cuba up there.
- 10:04Speaker 1: It's a good Cuba auto joke that twenty two percent
- 10:07Speaker 1: of the audience at best is going to get. I
- 10:09Speaker 1: do love that all their cars are from the fifties
- 10:11Speaker 1: over there for some reason. Yeah, for import laws and shit.
- 10:13Speaker 1: I guess that makes sense. I haven't gotten a new
- 10:15Speaker 1: car since like fucking Jimmy Carter.
- 10:18Speaker 2: Couldn't they get cars from like Japan and stuff?
- 10:21Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe they could get like a Daihatsu.
- 10:23Speaker 2: Shit, I don't know, Yeah, why don't Why is there
- 10:25Speaker 2: no Hyundais over there or anything?
- 10:28Speaker 1: At least an old Sunday or something.
- 10:31Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no Yugos, no one body you go.
- 10:34Speaker 1: Someone floated the Geo Metro over there on pool noodles
- 10:38Speaker 1: at least.
- 10:39Speaker 2: I wonder what a Ugo goes for now. I bet
- 10:42Speaker 2: a vintage Ugo that's still in running shape is probably
- 10:45Speaker 2: like five times what a Ugo used to cost, which
- 10:48Speaker 2: was I think thirty five hundred dollars something.
- 10:51Speaker 1: Cars and Bids Dot Yugo enter. Let's see what a
- 10:59Speaker 1: pristine you go goes for. Looks like the top dollar
- 11:03Speaker 1: on a really nice Ugo these days, like sixty one
- 11:06Speaker 1: hundred dollars at him.
- 11:08Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's about twice what they sold for.
- 11:11Speaker 1: New fuck And honestly it looks worth every tenny. This
- 11:13Speaker 1: thing is kind of dagged out. It's sort of like
- 11:16Speaker 1: a JDM version of an AMC Gremlin. You remember those?
- 11:22Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, me and car accident in a
- 11:26Speaker 2: Gremlin when I was a kid and those shit. Yeah,
- 11:28Speaker 2: not a major one, It's very minor. It's fine.
- 11:30Speaker 1: A Gremlin is a tiny part of getting an accident.
- 11:33Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 11:33Speaker 1: Anyway, that was later on Boomer Talk with Connor and Adams.
- 11:38Speaker 1: I'm only thirty one, what do I know about these cars?
- 11:41Speaker 2: So neighbors described here in glass shattering, but no other
- 11:45Speaker 2: noises coming from the fire. One of the first weird
- 11:48Speaker 2: details came pretty early on. Voting records showed that William A.
- 11:53Speaker 2: De Roth's child, age eighty seven, lived at the residence,
- 11:56Speaker 2: but it was listed as being owned by someone with
- 11:59Speaker 2: a name was only seventy seven, and the La Times
- 12:04Speaker 2: also reached out to a woman whose name appeared in
- 12:06Speaker 2: records pertaining to the house, but she did not respond history.
- 12:11Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you're in the fucking Rothschild family, Like
- 12:14Speaker 1: pretty sure, it's like kind of soprano rules. As for
- 12:17Speaker 1: talking to the local cops, yeah.
- 12:20Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't just call a Rothschild probably.
- 12:23Speaker 1: Yeah. Let me let me get my story straight. With
- 12:25Speaker 1: the second richest guy in Germany.
- 12:28Speaker 2: The neighbors who spoke to the Times said that this
- 12:32Speaker 2: guy was very friendly, described himself as a Yale graduate.
- 12:36Speaker 2: Also said he was very attached to his dog, who
- 12:39Speaker 2: has not been seen since the fire. That part is
- 12:42Speaker 2: sad unless there's just like a fake guy in the
- 12:46Speaker 2: house and this roths Child made off with his dog somewhere.
- 12:49Speaker 1: I like to imagine it was owned by this miserable,
- 12:51Speaker 1: like rich guy and the dog liked. We got rescued
- 12:54Speaker 1: by a loving family with a white picket fence and
- 12:56Speaker 1: a little buoying girl that play with it every day.
- 12:58Speaker 1: And this is this murder is actually been like a
- 13:00Speaker 1: the silver lining. His dog has been waiting for its
- 13:03Speaker 1: entire miserable life. I worked for a comedy club owner
- 13:06Speaker 1: one time that was such an awful, miserable man that
- 13:08Speaker 1: even his dog was depressed. He had a two year
- 13:11Speaker 1: old Golden Retriever, the happiest creature that God can create.
- 13:15Speaker 1: It was miserable around.
- 13:17Speaker 2: Wayne Wayne gets your shit together.
- 13:19Speaker 1: Wayne Payne is that his real name? Nos? Just the
- 13:22Speaker 1: pain you feel in your own Wayne Man. Fuck.
- 13:25Speaker 2: So the house was very modest, but this guy also
- 13:30Speaker 2: apparently had like a j Leno level car collection. He
- 13:34Speaker 2: stored some of them at his house and others. This
- 13:39Speaker 2: is a quote from the La Times article up the
- 13:41Speaker 2: street at another property that was ornamented with busts of
- 13:45Speaker 2: great thinkers, including Rafael and Michaelangelo, and several security cameras.
- 13:52Speaker 2: I wonder if there was a shredder bust dmit Adam.
- 13:56Speaker 1: I was working on the Ninja Turtles show. When you
- 13:59Speaker 1: want me to have from kind of second joke, I don't, Yeah,
- 14:02Speaker 1: that's I don't. I don't know what that funny to
- 14:04Speaker 1: have marble busts and all this shit and that you go.
- 14:07Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just all these busts. There's a bunch of
- 14:11Speaker 2: security cameras. It's reported that one of his cars was
- 14:13Speaker 2: a red Porsche nine to eleven. Never forget that was
- 14:17Speaker 2: once owned by Michael Jordans.
- 14:20Speaker 1: That's cool that was once lost by Michael Jordan in
- 14:23Speaker 1: a poker game.
- 14:24Speaker 2: Yeah, he probably won it from Michael Jordan tossing quarters
- 14:28Speaker 2: at the wall, see which one is the closest.
- 14:30Speaker 1: That's fucking pulling hairs out of his leg and guessing
- 14:33Speaker 1: if the number was even odd. A really cute girl
- 14:35Speaker 1: did that to me once in school. She said in
- 14:37Speaker 1: my lab, I just started pulling hair on my leg.
- 14:38Speaker 1: She said even her odd. I was like what, And
- 14:41Speaker 1: she's like, are the hairs even odd? And I was like, oh,
- 14:43Speaker 1: I see what you're doing. Well, I don't want you
- 14:44Speaker 1: to get out of my lap.
- 14:45Speaker 3: So odd.
- 14:48Speaker 1: And one naked shin the rest of the year.
- 14:50Speaker 2: So far, nothing I've read indicates that foul play is
- 14:53Speaker 2: suspected here, but it's still a little early for that,
- 14:57Speaker 2: seeing as how this just happened a couple of weeks ago.
- 14:59Speaker 2: As we record this, but story gets weirder.
- 15:02Speaker 1: I mean, not everybody can be found with the manifesto
- 15:05Speaker 1: and you know, base matching the security camera footage, so
- 15:09Speaker 1: some things are a little murkier. And I mean I
- 15:12Speaker 1: think if you're going to kill like someone from a
- 15:13Speaker 1: really rich family, this is sort of like how you
- 15:16Speaker 1: want to do, like, oh, fake electrical fire or whatever.
- 15:19Speaker 2: Yeah. About a week after the fire, the La Times
- 15:22Speaker 2: ran a follow up article revealing that, uh, oh, this
- 15:25Speaker 2: guy was not a Rothschild.
- 15:27Speaker 1: After all, a tender to the throne.
- 15:30Speaker 2: Yeah, he just apparently really wanted to be one.
- 15:34Speaker 1: He always wanted to experience anti Semitism, but he never could.
- 15:37Speaker 2: Yeah. That I think might be the weirdest part of
- 15:40Speaker 2: all the families.
- 15:42Speaker 1: It's like being like, I'm going to change right name
- 15:43Speaker 1: to Connor Zuckerberg exactly.
- 15:46Speaker 2: Yeah, of all the families to want to join, but
- 15:49Speaker 2: apparently that's what happened with this guy. He wasn't born
- 15:52Speaker 2: with me. The official Rothschild genealogy doesn't mention him. Instead,
- 15:58Speaker 2: it seems like he just had his name change to
- 16:00Speaker 2: Rothschild at one point, and that point being nineteen eighty five.
- 16:04Speaker 2: That's when a guy whose real name is William Alfred
- 16:07Speaker 2: Kaufman petitioned the La County Superior Court to change his
- 16:11Speaker 2: name to William Alexander de Roth's child.
- 16:15Speaker 1: Oh yeah, to throw the day in there.
- 16:18Speaker 2: Yeah, he This is a quote from his legal filing.
- 16:21Speaker 2: I want to take my family name that I prefer
- 16:23Speaker 2: to Kaufman. It would simplify my life greatly. Taking the
- 16:27Speaker 2: name from my mother's side end quote. Imagine thinking changing
- 16:31Speaker 2: your name to Roth's child would simplify your life one second.
- 16:35Speaker 1: Live in my life as Connor Paul Hitler. Well, that's bad.
- 16:40Speaker 1: Analogy did a good last.
- 16:41Speaker 2: Name and no one objected, so the name change was
- 16:45Speaker 2: approved by a judge shortly thereafter. Somehow, it still gets weirder.
- 16:51Speaker 2: The Times reached out to this guy's younger brother, Richard
- 16:54Speaker 2: Kaufman of Oregon. He told them his brother disappeared in
- 16:58Speaker 2: the sixties or seventies, and the family presumed he was
- 17:01Speaker 2: dead a long time ago. This guy's like, I feel
- 17:05Speaker 2: like this guy's up to something. He's like military intelligence
- 17:09Speaker 2: or something. I'm probably just thinking that because it's Laurel Canyon.
- 17:12Speaker 1: It seems like some kind of a long game aspect
- 17:16Speaker 1: to it, you know, like I'm gonna set myself over
- 17:19Speaker 1: this place and change my name and a little bunch
- 17:21Speaker 1: of time go by. Yeah, for sure.
- 17:23Speaker 2: And he and his brother were nine years apart, so
- 17:26Speaker 2: they weren't super close. He said his older brother left
- 17:29Speaker 2: for the University of Oregon after high school and then
- 17:33Speaker 2: left the state in the sixties or seventies, and that
- 17:36Speaker 2: he literally only talked to him one time by phone
- 17:40Speaker 2: after that, and even that he says was a very
- 17:42Speaker 2: odd call and that he didn't explain where he'd gone.
- 17:47Speaker 2: He says that call happened at some point in the
- 17:49Speaker 2: seventies or eighties. This guy's not good with timelines. He's
- 17:54Speaker 2: given us whole decade long windows here.
- 17:58Speaker 1: Yeah, he's definitely the last Name's got no concept to touch.
- 18:02Speaker 2: He also said his family is not Jewish and has
- 18:06Speaker 2: no relation to the rothschilds.
- 18:08Speaker 1: So here's more of what he's like. Actually, I'm realizing
- 18:11Speaker 1: he's more like the Rachel Dolozol of Jewish people. He
- 18:15Speaker 1: just wants to thug. He's down, he's with it, he's
- 18:19Speaker 1: with the cause.
- 18:20Speaker 2: Yeah, he's an ally, super ally.
- 18:23Speaker 1: He's allied to the Deep Deep States. I love hopek Man,
- 18:27Speaker 1: come on.
- 18:29Speaker 2: Neighbors had also told the La Times that Roth's child
- 18:33Speaker 2: Dick Kaufman, said he donated a bunch of his cars
- 18:36Speaker 2: to LA's Peterson Automotive Museum. It's where Biggie got shot.
- 18:40Speaker 1: For the record, allegedly.
- 18:43Speaker 2: A Peterson representative said there was no record of any
- 18:47Speaker 2: such transaction. So this guy was just telling stories about himself.
- 18:52Speaker 1: You know that anonymous wing at the hospital. I'm anonymous.
- 18:56Speaker 2: They say he was happiest when he was talking about
- 18:58Speaker 2: his cars, but otherwise was pretty quiet, seemed educated. I
- 19:03Speaker 2: always wonder what was a guy like this doing for
- 19:07Speaker 2: money if he lost contact with his family?
- 19:10Speaker 1: Was here, yeah, right working?
- 19:12Speaker 2: Did he have a career? Because the La Times finds
- 19:15Speaker 2: all sorts of shit about his ex wife, They're able
- 19:19Speaker 2: to find his brother, and all they really find about
- 19:21Speaker 2: this guy is that he changed his name to Roth's
- 19:23Speaker 2: child in eighty five.
- 19:25Speaker 1: You know how most guys just kind of like find
- 19:27Speaker 1: like a like an influencer to sort of just like
- 19:30Speaker 1: pretend to be and go like, oh, that guy's just
- 19:32Speaker 1: like he's just kind of like a bootleg Felvon or
- 19:35Speaker 1: that guy's just a poor man's Lewis J. Gomanz or
- 19:38Speaker 1: whatever the fuck. This guy is like he's got here
- 19:41Speaker 1: at some point along in his timeline he got Jerry
- 19:43Speaker 1: Seinfeld killed, where he's like, I'm just gonna get really
- 19:45Speaker 1: into Porsches and being Jewish and fucking not talking to
- 19:49Speaker 1: people and being aspergery and weird. If I could just
- 19:51Speaker 1: fuck one seventeen year old, then I got this whole
- 19:54Speaker 1: thing figured out.
- 19:55Speaker 2: And face no ramifications for it.
- 19:57Speaker 1: Whatso exactly?
- 19:59Speaker 2: So A the neighbor interviewed after the identity reveal said
- 20:04Speaker 2: Rothschild quote came off as genuinely educated and very polite,
- 20:08Speaker 2: and that he carried himself like I think a Roth's
- 20:11Speaker 2: child would. The money is there, whether it is roths
- 20:14Speaker 2: Child money or not. How does this guy know how
- 20:16Speaker 2: a Roth's child would carry themselves? You don't know that
- 20:19Speaker 2: level of wealth.
- 20:20Speaker 1: Well, I think he probably would have read about it
- 20:23Speaker 1: as much as positible, seeing as he's fucking cosplaying is one?
- 20:26Speaker 2: No, I mean the neighbor who said, like, yeah, he
- 20:31Speaker 2: seemed like a Roth's child, you know about I.
- 20:34Speaker 1: Had a breakfast sandwich and I don't know why I
- 20:35Speaker 1: thought i'd be pricky and alert afterwards.
- 20:38Speaker 2: Name your five favorite rothschilds. You think this guy carried
- 20:41Speaker 2: himself like.
- 20:42Speaker 1: A world uh Baron Vaughn Willhelm, Vaughn Charger, just going
- 20:48Speaker 1: with stuffy Jewish names or all the old timing names.
- 20:51Speaker 1: He's got to be right, right.
- 20:53Speaker 2: So the La Times started super duper looking into this
- 20:57Speaker 2: guy after all of this came out. Yes, I feel
- 21:00Speaker 2: like is a little weird too. They found that he
- 21:02Speaker 2: bought the house in Laurel Canyon in nineteen seventy two,
- 21:06Speaker 2: which that's a point in history where it really was
- 21:08Speaker 2: a bunch of fucking you know.
- 21:10Speaker 1: When we were talking about that episode.
- 21:12Speaker 2: Yeah, hippie musicians and shit. So this guy was there
- 21:16Speaker 2: when there was kind of a military intelligence presence and
- 21:20Speaker 2: seems like he just never left.
- 21:22Speaker 1: You know. It's like if you live at this time.
- 21:24Speaker 1: In la Local episode, we talked about a lot of
- 21:26Speaker 1: la stuff, And what this means is that if Laurel
- 21:29Speaker 1: Canyon was full of as many as you said, military
- 21:32Speaker 1: intelligence representatives, that means that the rock and roll roups
- 21:37Speaker 1: on Sunset must have also been crawling with CIA spooks
- 21:41Speaker 1: and government goons. Probably the CIA ralps.
- 21:45Speaker 2: They're all seen.
- 21:46Speaker 1: That's what I'm calling it now, the CIA routs, the
- 21:50Speaker 1: government routes.
- 21:51Speaker 2: They also found that he married a woman named Margot
- 21:54Speaker 2: Murkin in Nevada in nineteen ninety one.
- 21:57Speaker 1: It was convicted of being a minor character. The marvel
- 22:00Speaker 1: is Missus Masel. She is the daughter of Morris Murkin,
- 22:04Speaker 1: convicted of being a even more minor character.
- 22:08Speaker 2: He is the founder of the Budget rent a car chain,
- 22:11Speaker 2: and she operated a budget facility in the eighties called
- 22:15Speaker 2: drive a dream that rented out high end cars like Rolls,
- 22:19Speaker 2: Royce's and things of the like.
- 22:21Speaker 1: Well that's fun. I so, man, who thinks that regular
- 22:24Speaker 1: people should be able to drive fancy cars for a day?
- 22:27Speaker 1: I think that's good. Yeah.
- 22:28Speaker 2: I remember there was in like late eighties rap there
- 22:32Speaker 2: was a big controversy about people renting cars and pretending.
- 22:37Speaker 1: Oh as there should be. I think that's a very
- 22:39Speaker 1: valid point of criticism. It's like that so that cars.
- 22:42Speaker 2: Rented, Yeah, seems fair. But also get a load of
- 22:46Speaker 2: this white stripe shit. Neighbors said they did know of
- 22:51Speaker 2: Margot Murkin, but they knew her as Rothschild's cousin or
- 22:55Speaker 2: sister and not his wife, but the La Times confirmed
- 22:59Speaker 2: they were definitely married.
- 23:01Speaker 1: Damn as a huge White Stripes fan and Rothschild's head.
- 23:04Speaker 1: You know this is I'm gonna I'm really the target
- 23:07Speaker 1: audience for that joke. Yeah, yeah, you could not have
- 23:09Speaker 1: had a cleaner shot. That's good.
- 23:11Speaker 2: I had tickets to see the White Stripes in concert
- 23:15Speaker 2: two weeks before they broke up.
- 23:16Speaker 1: Oh bro, I'm about to break your heart because I
- 23:19Speaker 1: saw them on the Get Behind Me Satan tour when
- 23:22Speaker 1: I was twelve at the Glasshouse and Pimona with like
- 23:24Speaker 1: four hundred people, and it was like the best show
- 23:26Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my.
- 23:27Speaker 2: Life, I bet god damn it. Yeah, I love the
- 23:29Speaker 2: White Stripes. I've seen Jack White twice, but I never
- 23:32Speaker 2: got to see the White Stripes.
- 23:33Speaker 1: I haven't seen them since the stripes.
- 23:35Speaker 2: Yeah, White Stripes.
- 23:36Speaker 1: Great, great, great fucking performance. That The amount of emotion
- 23:39Speaker 1: and energy he put into that performance is more than
- 23:41Speaker 1: any other performance I've ever seen of any John Right
- 23:43Speaker 1: of any kind. That was that was the most powerful. Yeah,
- 23:45Speaker 1: it's like this motherfucker is singing the butt bull Weevils,
- 23:50Speaker 1: sure you and singing hipster genius.
- 23:53Speaker 2: So there's still no word on why this guy decided
- 23:56Speaker 2: to impersonate a rothschild, but it's not a completely uncommon thing.
- 24:01Speaker 2: They are a powerful family and pretending to be one
- 24:05Speaker 2: of them just sort of implies that you have a
- 24:07Speaker 2: shit ton of money and connections and that you maybe
- 24:10Speaker 2: harvest the adrenal glands of children to whip up a
- 24:13Speaker 2: delicious drink that guarantees success on the world stage.
- 24:17Speaker 1: You know, And this is he definitely picked the right
- 24:19Speaker 1: time to pretend to be an important person in you know,
- 24:22Speaker 1: because if you're if you're in Los Angeles and you're
- 24:25Speaker 1: trying to get a table and you say you don't
- 24:27Speaker 1: have a reservation for Simon Gersh, you know, then people
- 24:30Speaker 1: are gonna go. Then I'll then I'll double check, you know,
- 24:33Speaker 1: then at least i'll look. You know, if you got
- 24:35Speaker 1: the roths Child, that's an ill Look, that's a little
- 24:38Speaker 1: bit more access, just on schmooz factor for sure. It's
- 24:42Speaker 1: not deny Am.
- 24:43Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a fancy ass name.
- 24:45Speaker 1: I would be nice shit to them, just prost the
- 24:48Speaker 1: opportunistic comedy writer that I am. If I met a
- 24:50Speaker 1: person named ross Child or one of my TV table
- 24:52Speaker 1: and they'll be like, but just in case, better not
- 24:54Speaker 1: fuck this up. Yeah I've actually, I've actually said stupid
- 24:57Speaker 1: shit in front of important people before.
- 24:59Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 25:00Speaker 2: Same.
- 25:00Speaker 1: So.
- 25:01Speaker 2: In twenty twenty one, a woman named Ina Yashtchihin posed
- 25:06Speaker 2: as Deve Roth's child when visiting mar A Lago and
- 25:11Speaker 2: managed to meet Trump and his friends and family. There
- 25:14Speaker 2: was also a guy who called himself Kyle Deschanel who
- 25:18Speaker 2: claimed to be a Rothschild heir in.
- 25:20Speaker 1: Offspring actually jigglow name.
- 25:22Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's a smooth one.
- 25:24Speaker 1: It's somebody call for a Kyle Deschanel.
- 25:27Speaker 2: His real name was ari A Dodleson.
- 25:30Speaker 1: Yeah, no, wonder each change Kyle de Chanel, And that's
- 25:35Speaker 1: the name of a guy with a horrible names. I
- 25:37Speaker 1: wish I had a cool, beautiful nation like Kyle Deschanel.
- 25:41Speaker 1: I gotta be arij A Donaldson hanging out with Adelai
- 25:45Speaker 1: Stevenson and all the other fucking shit named ugly butts.
- 25:49Speaker 2: So, yeah, this happens, but why this guy in particular
- 25:53Speaker 2: chose to do it remains to be determined. We will
- 25:56Speaker 2: keep you posted as updates arrive. I don't know that
- 26:00Speaker 2: anyone is going to follow this story enough for there
- 26:01Speaker 2: to be updates, but who knows. I am interested to
- 26:04Speaker 2: see if this guy was like murdered, or if he
- 26:06Speaker 2: just died, or if that's just like the body of
- 26:09Speaker 2: a homeless person in there. And again he's in like
- 26:13Speaker 2: the Czech Republic with his dog right now.
- 26:15Speaker 1: Or sometimes I bet somebody that's in political trouble just
- 26:18Speaker 1: totally does get into a random car accident that looks
- 26:21Speaker 1: kind of fishy. It just went down street, you know,
- 26:23Speaker 1: like I said, maybe the fucking house brinted down.
- 26:25Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, he's eighty seven so it's not like.
- 26:29Speaker 1: Not great at fire prevention gang.
- 26:31Speaker 2: Yeah, not going to be that fleet of foot when
- 26:33Speaker 2: the fire breaks out.
- 26:34Speaker 1: Probably nice yeah fleet of foot? Were you reading Mark
- 26:39Speaker 1: Twain earlier? And nice?
- 26:41Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean rest rest easy. Fake Roth's child,
- 26:46Speaker 2: mister Kaufman, William Kaufman.
- 26:48Speaker 1: Well you know wherever he is now, he's a real
- 26:51Speaker 1: rothschild in heaven.
- 26:52Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's he's with the rothschilds now. But so yeah,
- 26:58Speaker 2: that's that's the episode. Should we post the address so
- 27:02Speaker 2: people can go check this out? Do like some morbid
- 27:05Speaker 2: tourism kind of stuff, dark tourism. They're thinking about jonestown
- 27:11Speaker 2: to tourism, which, wow.
- 27:13Speaker 1: We should. We should do the first conspiracy the show
- 27:15Speaker 1: cruise and charter a small fishing diggy where we go
- 27:19Speaker 1: take it all the way down there with our listeners.
- 27:21Speaker 1: It is like an exclusive experience.
- 27:24Speaker 2: I'm all for it.
- 27:25Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying I don't think the firefighters that
- 27:27Speaker 1: investigated were necessarily looking for like, let's say, baby bones
- 27:31Speaker 1: that had been harvested for their adrena chromal components when
- 27:35Speaker 1: they were doing their little artis in sweep, their little
- 27:37Speaker 1: fake investigation. If you want to call it that.
- 27:40Speaker 2: Yeah, how much gold did you find? Probably a lot?
- 27:43Speaker 2: Bet there was a lot.
- 27:44Speaker 1: Bet, I bet, I bet they found two hundred pounds
- 27:47Speaker 1: of gold and they reported all fourteen ounces to the
- 27:50Speaker 1: evidence locker.
- 27:51Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Anyway, that I think is our episode. This
- 27:55Speaker 2: is shorter than usual because this is a developing story,
- 28:00Speaker 2: breaking news. Got our finger on the pulse. Connor, thank
- 28:03Speaker 2: you for doing the pod. As always, What do we
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- 28:21Speaker 2: what do you got to plug?
- 28:22Speaker 1: Browsers is free this week if I want to check
- 28:26Speaker 1: it out. No, not a Browsers guy, I never have.
- 28:28Speaker 3: Ben.
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- 28:56Speaker 1: or at the gym. If you've listened to comedy at
- 28:59Speaker 1: the gym, that's yeah, it's upsetting to me for some reason.
- 29:02Speaker 1: But you know, if you want to want to get
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- 29:06Speaker 1: talk about fat women, then you do you? Uh?
- 29:09Speaker 2: What about podcast people listen to podcasts at the gym.
- 29:12Speaker 2: That'd be weird.
- 29:13Speaker 1: I always have.
- 29:14Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't listen to podcasts in general,
- 29:18Speaker 2: but I really can't picture when it's working out.
- 29:20Speaker 1: I got I got like three left that can stand.
- 29:23Speaker 2: Yeah, makes sense. All right, let's get the fuck out
- 29:26Speaker 2: of here. Connors say goodbye, goodbye, goodbye everybody. We love
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