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'Summer House' Season 10 Premiere Breakdown with Callie Rivers Curry · Gabbing with Gib

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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you very much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back to Gavin with Giv.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm your host Gibson John's and happy summer house season 10 premiere week to all who celebrate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I have celebrated it literally and just more about it forically because I am so happy having this show back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll hear in this conversation today with Callie Rivers Curry from the ringer is morally corrupt, which is their bravo podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She helps you break down the whole premiere.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We go for over 50 minutes about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're both just like elated the show back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was an excellent premiere and they were just so many threads to follow and so many breadcrumbs and it was just they delivered.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They really, really did and just like the show tends to deliver.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you saw if you follow me on Instagram or other social media, I went to the premiere party on Tuesday night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a let's say fair on in Manhattan in the financial district.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and it was a really good vibe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody was there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sierra and Amanda had to leave early to go to watch Rapants Live, which was live that night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They looked fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But they were there for long enough to pose for the full cast photo, all the newbies were there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I walked into the same time as Jesse, we said hi, and hugged, and then I saw, you know, Kyle and Amanda, who were very cordial talking to another, I saw a CR come in and get say hi to her, saw Lindsay hung out with her, talked to Carl for a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: met Mia the new one who I think we're meeting next week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She is not on the premiere episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a great group and the vibes were good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of people had plus one, lots of friends there, and they were drinking and Kyle got up on the mic to just give a speech.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because he usually organizes, I think, these premiere parties and picks the places he always has.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he gave a, I thought, was really nice speech, especially
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think very unexpectedly to everybody in the room, he called out Amanda specifically, and I posted a video of that on TikTok and the gathering with Gibbons to Ram.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he seemed his voice kind of cracked when he was kind of talking to her and he was just like, listen, like, I love this journey with you, and I just hope that we both find happiness whenever that looks like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you could hear her say, like, oh my god, like stop.
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[SPEAKER_01]: like an endearing way and then I looked over after the speech that I was sort of towards the end of the speech and she was wiping away a tear.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it really think I think I meant a lot to her to kind of have that called out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the vibes of this premiere party for Summer House and also Winter House sort of because if you add Winter House they've done it they've done 13 seasons.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's always had this vibe of, like, they've built this, you know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they've obviously had the support of Bravo, and they've had the, you know, truly original their production company, but they've really, he called, I think he called a little engine that could.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it really was that for a long time, and so to get, again, I think I'm reflected on this a little bit, but to get to 10 years,
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[SPEAKER_01]: is really an accomplishment and it, I mean, the show has just come so far and I think that they take a man's pride in having built this and put so much of their lives out there and so that was really the vibe of the party.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like celebratory and kind of grateful for, you know, this becoming what has become.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I just felt lucky to be there too and also for me, I don't know how much I've talked about this, but like, someone else really started when I sort of
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[SPEAKER_01]: this career of interviewing and covering halter and nobody really cared to talk about to talk to them sort of in advance of their first season around their first and second season and so and I was really eager to cut my teeth and be and I have very green and wanted to do as many interviews as possible and I love bravo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I was interviewing them before season one even started and so I really feel connected to the show just from that regard and it makes it reminds me of how far I've come and sort of where things started for me and so it was a really nice night it really was and yes, so that was the premier party.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I think what is get to the chat with Cali?
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's not much else to address.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Rhode Island trailer came out earlier today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard to really dissect something that is with a bunch of people that you don't know or recognize, and they'll look the same on top of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's giving Jersey vibes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a great trailer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's interesting that Dolores has not even been in it at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So she's definitely going to be a very small part of this show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they kind of used her maybe as just sort of like a
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[SPEAKER_01]: kind of a Trojan horse into it, which I don't hate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like that Ashley eye from the back from Bachelornation is in it, a good amount.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's like full on in it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, um, I'm really excited for that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's for that premiering.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I April 2nd.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I also think that probably posted the other day that Southern hospitality's back in a month.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, we still have a lot to look forward to this spring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is a packed schedule.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, as the trader's winds down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're still getting a lot of new stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And also just at PSA, I did three FIsons podcast, what else is going on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She was on my show a couple weeks ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We were talking about the Potomac reunion, how excited we were for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And remind her Potomac reunion doesn't start until next week, the 15th because the Super Bowl doesn't want to air kind of in competition with the Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that does not start until the following week, and it's three par a year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Keep listening for my chat about the summer house season 10 premiere with Cali River's Curry, check out her podcast morally corrupt as well as Bachelorette, they're both from the ringer, wherever you're your podcasts, and please make sure to rate review and subscribe to Gaudin with Gabe or ever listening to this right now, we'll be back several times next week with a bunch of other good episodes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Have a good weekend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want a gab.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, today we're gabbing with Cali River's curry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She is one of the co-hosts of Morley Corrupt, which is the ringer's bravo podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It has been a minute since Cali's been on the show, but she has returned guests, and I am really happy to have her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For it's a big one, the summer house season 10 premiere, and there's a lot to unpack for a minute, of course.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, Cali, thanks for being here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How are you?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I am so happy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like me too.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm trying to think I love Southern charm, but as like a collective, and I don't know if it's my age group, like millennials.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Every single one of my friends that watches reality TV was like, I'm happy here today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I am so happy that Summer House is back.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I don't know if you know this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I would be so curious to know like, how many people watch what shows because Summer House to me seems like the most popular.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I know like maybe some of the old housewives, like the diehard fans, which like listen, I watch every episode of all those,
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[SPEAKER_04]: Summerhouse is what it feels me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yeah, and it's just so funny because that just like wasn't the case five years ago Like it was really like it was the one that people were like don't sleep on summer house You know if they used to be from atomic to it just but like it had this sort of like back-to-back major seasons like huge Things happen and then all the sudden you sort of look up and it's like summer house is the supreme like it is the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It really is
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[SPEAKER_04]: So before Western Jesse came in, that season before Western Jesse, so three, four seasons ago, I remember thinking like, I don't know how long this can last, like I think this is my new and new season.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm like this might be one of the last seasons of Summer House, like I'm really sad.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I love this show too, so much, but like these people are getting old, they don't wanna go out anymore.
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[SPEAKER_04]: it's tired to continually see Amanda and Kyle do the same thing every summer, which hasn't changed, we're gonna watch it again.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But that mixed in with like everything else, Western Jesse are to me, one of the best casting decisions that Bravo has done that it's completely revived the show.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Now, they're not the whole show, but like the way they've connected the old and new people together and how much people love them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Bravo so lucky that they came in and changed everything around for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I I completely agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that everything you said is really accurate whether you want to admit that or not like they really helped to like
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[SPEAKER_01]: revitalized the show, as you said, because that, that was probably their worst season since like season three or four, honestly, no, they've done an excellent job.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I remember that season airing, I was just like, obviously, individually, like, they kind of bring a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But something about bringing two people in together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if that, if they really gel, then they gel with the house, like it, I think it, when you add one person, like Lexi last year,
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[SPEAKER_01]: woman joining the house and she's like, no, by the lean on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is so much better to add a pair.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess we'll just get into the premiere.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I want to start with the newbies because it does feel like it's going to be the sort of last kind of last to raw for the OGs, like this big season where it's going to sort of flame out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But also it feels like a transitional season two, I think, because they're bringing in six new people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We met for them in this premiere.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's funny because it's
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're replacing Bailey and Lexi with Bailey spelled a different way and leave me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope that like them as a duo could work because it helps both of them, I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What did you think of them as a pair?
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I liked, I first of all, first episode I thought it was, again, I am a huge fan, I was so excited, but I absolutely love this first episode.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It delivered and I loved all of the new people, which I'm also like that sucks for the two people that weren't included, because like hopefully I like them next week, but from interviews, I'm like, I don't know how well the girls mesh can like going forward.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But this episode, I thought it was great.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I can't think of her name.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Levi was a Levi.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bailey and Levi.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bailey is the blonde one who was crying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Bailey crying at the table.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I know it's a serious moment.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was cracking up in my bed because all the OGs were just like, okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then she's like, but I'm so excited to be here and they were like, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They were like, we don't know you enough to care yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they go upstairs and look why are they crying already?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think that, like, as like a reality star, it gave me some, it was encouraging for her to be able to, like, you know, deliver that monologue and, like, you feel vulnerable and be emotional, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there were, also it was like kind of a great entry point for her because it's also like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: when we know her like love life situation, but also it's like, all right, she's, she got broken up in a sweet Korean.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a detail that's gonna stick in my head.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, I wanted to know everything about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The two cases that were like left on the street and he just like had them, they are, I'm confused.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Sam and Salad?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Sam and Salad, like, there's something to touch down all with her story that I think are helpful for her, like entering the picture.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Also, I do think like a good reality star is someone and this goes for like all shows.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like housewives is especially this holds true for me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But someone who can go like almost roller coaster emotions like totally just move on and forward.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And
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[SPEAKER_04]: She was doing everything in here, it's not cry, telling that story.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Clearly it still hits a nerve for her.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And in that same moment, she was like, oh my god, I got to get it together.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And she was like, okay, let's go out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And it was like, it was like, it was going out, have a good time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Come back, everything was fine.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I think I'm going to like them in the house.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just curious to see how their relationship with the rest of the group Jell is moving forward.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Totally.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Levi, I feel like we didn't get that much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: from her, like, I don't feel like I know her at all after that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I know she had a 12, 12 year relationship, but that's it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we also met KJ, who I think is also great vibes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, bring a little bit of a country vibe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's also like a proscape order in a model.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we know a little good about a story already.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I love, yeah, KJ.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I mean, cutest can be.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Sweetest can be.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Also when they showed his modeling pictures, I'm like, I've seen him somewhere.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He looks so familiar to me, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: And you know, sometimes models come on the show to be honest, even Lexi last year.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, where, where are you modeling?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're also like that was 10 years ago, you know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and KJ, I'm like absolutely a model.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Definitely still gets paid for modeling.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then he's a skateboarder.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I love how he sat down with this year.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, I'm very used to women energy, female energy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I love that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I love Tim Bing honest with West about his anxiety.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a great little moment for both of them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and then West being like, is it cool if I check on you?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I want to make sure you're good, which it seems like they're actual friends.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I think they're the kind of friends who I personally love.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They don't end your talk every single day.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They could go like six months without talking, but then when they're around each other, it's like all good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like they see the world similarly and they have the same value.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just like, let's lock back in kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, 100% so I love seeing their dynamic and it doesn't seem like Jesse's jealous at all and like it seems like they might be a trio moving forward.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah at this point I'm like
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[SPEAKER_01]: four for four but like going in order out how we're going three for three for new but yeah yes totally absolutely and then there is Ben the Australian former bachelor he is obviously very handsome very and I like I get really good vibe from him and like if I think him being on reality before in this case doesn't bother me like it kind of just makes it seem like he has some experience doing it you know but yeah the thing that the thing that I'm sort of like
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the others are sort of forcing the, like, and man to bend the little too hard or I don't know if I believe that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's not gonna let you and Kyle with this guy, you know?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, that's kind of... She's not going to, and she didn't, because they were also like, oh, how did you guys meet?
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[SPEAKER_04]: And like, we were topless in a pool, and that, that, that, that, that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, Amanda was all but topless in a pool in this episode.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So it doesn't seem like she mind's going topless.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, she has, like, top.
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[SPEAKER_04]: three boobs on Bravo, I think.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I don't think that's a big deal.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think it's anything.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think Ben's just like a nice guy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Very good looking.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Has an incredible accent.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I agree that his reality experience to me doesn't make him come across at least so far.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's sort of like how Sally's been on three shows from southern charm and that new guy Chris on Vandenberg rules has been one like three other dating shows.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like this feels different to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I remember.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's when you brought up West and Jesse and how they might be a trio.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But there is the
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's the thing from the trailer where Jesse asks West if he has permission to make out with Sierra and and the one thing that makes you think that there could be like a little hiccup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They I think they seem fine now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When they showed Kyle on the car ride to the house being like, are you going to feel some type of way about, you know, your buddy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have maybe having another roommate or something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, huh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like, is that a little easter egg?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because clearly the editors are loving the easter eggs this season.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, um, I did think the same thing, but then seeing them all together, I'm like, okay, I think you can work.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Um, but I did this happens with everyone.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's only human like Jesse and West were like two peas in a pod.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And so if there's ever a moment where Jesse feels like he doesn't have West, it might just be like, oh, well, you have KJ.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know what?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, like, that's just the built-in abuse for him to be upset about it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm hoping that doesn't happen because I like good vibes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We need drama and the house that I like the vibes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I think there's no chance ever in life.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's Sierra would make out with Jesse.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think Sierra, maybe not, I don't know about right now, although everyone, everything seems all good, but this past summer, I think, would Sierra give West another chance?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That sort of seems like, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think ultimately, that's where the feelings are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the Jesse thing is just kind of like, for play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fun, for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe takes it too seriously and maybe he actually does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he I kind of believe that he does actually like have a big cry.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think he I think he has liked her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he wishes to keep me like her.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think he has liked Amanda.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think he has liked page like all three of those women for him were like, uh, yeah, but I mean,
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's not a lot of straight guys that are going to go into the house and not be like, uh, yeah, if one of those right three were to be like, oh, I'm interested in you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I saw an interview that Sierra did recently.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Did you see this where she was like everyone always just talks about how I'm so hot, but there's like so much money.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like, yeah, maybe, but you're all so really, really not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just like the hottest person ever exists, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, I'm sorry, like, I'm sure life is so hard for you because everyone thinks you're so hot, but like, you're really, really hot.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what to tell you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: listen facts or facts that just is what it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, when they had their sit down west and Jesse at the party and they're talking about, oh, I love serious energy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love serious energy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What did you think of that conversation?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it's so...
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hard zero has gone on set this on like 19 million different things every time she has an interview She talks about prosack as I'm sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, same with Amanda too.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, and it does seem to be working Yeah, she seems so light and so happy and she's laughing at West jokes and Like we just said she is incredibly hot and then you're adding her being like fun on top of that
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think they're both like, oh my gosh, this is going to be a great summer with Sierra.
18:27
[SPEAKER_04]: And we never got to see the side of Western Sierra's relationship, but it does seem like West went through something when they were talking and Sierra was really there for him.
18:37
[SPEAKER_04]: I do think that there's some feelings there.
18:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Show it to me Rachel, exactly.
18:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
18:44
[SPEAKER_04]: But, but.
18:46
[UNKNOWN]: Oh.
18:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I know, it's so, it's so hard.
18:48
[SPEAKER_01]: It's really hard.
18:49
[SPEAKER_04]: But like, are you one of those people that are like, please get back together, you too, in a real way?
18:56
[SPEAKER_04]: Would you like to see Western Sierra together?
18:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I think like in the core of me, I would like to see it.
19:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, me too.
19:03
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, there's just something, there's just something about it and like it made me sad where the relationship got too last summer.
19:10
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like that was my instinct about it.
19:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I was just like, but they're both so great and he brings out, he also brings out something in her that I think is hard to bring out.
19:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I love that he's also coming in with much with his sort of first his first season energy that he had, you know, so he's also helping this situation, like they're both coming in much more much better and it's like, okay, so you're both in these great spots, like you try again, I don't think it works, no, I don't think so either.
19:38
[SPEAKER_04]: but do I want to work?
19:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we can do it.
19:41
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like I wanted to work so badly because I love both of them so much and I agree.
19:46
[SPEAKER_04]: Like last summer, West came in so timid, so measured.
19:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Like he was so scared of messing up because he got so much hate online.
19:54
[SPEAKER_04]: And he seems so much more confident this year and it's just like, I'm just gonna be who I am and it is what it is and she's in a great spot.
20:02
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm just like, yeah, now it can really work.
20:05
[SPEAKER_04]: Will it?
20:06
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
20:07
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
20:07
[SPEAKER_04]: I love for it too.
20:08
[SPEAKER_04]: And I also think that based on everything West has said, I do think he has it in the back of his mind that like it is a horrible idea to date someone in this house.
20:18
[SPEAKER_04]: So even if he might want to.
20:20
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's like, I can't do that again.
20:22
[SPEAKER_01]: He'd almost want to like wait until one of them is off the show.
20:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, for them.
20:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
20:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I totally try.
20:30
[SPEAKER_01]: We had this conversation with Sierra and Carl on this episode where he comes to her room and like
20:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I really like Carl's energy, too.
20:39
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the through line where I'm like, God, all these people seem like so locked in and happy and like down to clown this season.
20:48
[SPEAKER_01]: But I wish, and I really like their connection.
20:50
[SPEAKER_01]: They clearly have a nice rapport.
20:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they trust each other.
20:54
[SPEAKER_01]: But I wish that he would just give up the romance part of it with her.
20:57
[SPEAKER_01]: And kind of I feel like every season, it's like in another life.
21:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just like, why can't you just like be her friend?
21:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Content, which is like being a really good friend
21:07
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, that's not happening.
21:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, it's not, that's why I'm like just giving that, you know.
21:13
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I completely agree with you, but I did like their conversation and not only do I like cock Carl's energy with her.
21:20
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
21:22
[SPEAKER_04]: And how he was like, I'll clean up tonight, but newbies like he's in the mix too.
21:26
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
21:27
[SPEAKER_04]: And then with the guys, he's like, I'm ready to turn up this year.
21:30
[SPEAKER_04]: And I don't know, did you see how he did?
21:33
[SPEAKER_04]: Who did you do that interview with?
21:34
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, Chrissy Tegan.
21:35
[SPEAKER_04]: Did you see how he did that?
21:36
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, I say all the posts.
21:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't watched it.
21:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't watched it.
21:40
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't even know if it's I don't know.
21:41
[SPEAKER_04]: We had a one on one and I read her like caption about it like yeah Carl just seems like he's in such a good place and for him to be on this show and go to these parties and be in it and talk about turning up and also being sober I just think that's amazing.
21:59
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so evolved it's so evolved as a human
22:03
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like that's an active choice for him every single day.
22:07
[SPEAKER_04]: And it has to be hard, but I feel like he's gotten to a place where he's like good and you can tell because his confidence is like a different level than it has been in the past.
22:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I completely agree.
22:18
[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm excited to watch him this season.
22:20
[SPEAKER_04]: Ian, he's not wrong in its conversation with Sierra.
22:26
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think that's a real friend.
22:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, let's let's get into that because I wanted obviously a majority of this whole episode and season is Amanda and Kyle
22:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess maybe that could be our entry point with the car outside of it because he brings up the fact that, you know, he only sees Kyle when he goes to his shows and he misses spending quality time with him and it makes him nervous, just like the lifestyle is associated with the DJ and he brings up to him going to Penn State on a Thursday, felt like really read them in specific, but I understand, so it's sort of what the implication is.
23:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, um, he also, I really appreciate that he's not talking around it.
23:06
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, he literally says, Kyle and a house is other life that does not align with what should be going on in his life.
23:12
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, this thing that has, it's just so crazy because it popped up like a year ago.
23:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he wasn't doing this before 2025, maybe late 2024.
23:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's a new
23:24
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
23:25
[SPEAKER_04]: I keep thinking of Kyle watching this first episode back.
23:30
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like, do you not think it's weird that all your friends are like, why is he a DJ?
23:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Like everybody's saying it.
23:37
[SPEAKER_04]: Everyone.
23:39
[SPEAKER_04]: I understand you can make money doing it, and now that he's going to be divorced, if that's really what he loves, like being out to 4 a.m. like, I guess.
23:52
[SPEAKER_04]: But like, how long can you do this for?
23:55
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
23:56
[SPEAKER_04]: And like, how much are you getting paid to DJ?
23:59
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I'm probably a lot.
24:00
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm constantly curious, you think?
24:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think so.
24:04
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, how much is Meredith Mark's getting paid to DJ?
24:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Who do you think it's paid more out of those two?
24:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Kyle gets paid more.
24:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that he's like playing big clubs and they seem full, you know?
24:19
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, I mean, I think you're gonna go through a Kyle DJ.
24:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I would not pay to go.
24:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I would go if it was like, I roll was gonna be there and I had to really get set up and it was for free and whatever, but I wouldn't go for that reason to hear like him, you know, drop some beats.
24:36
[SPEAKER_01]: It took one of the links, you know?
24:38
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, right there.
24:40
[SPEAKER_04]: That's why I'm like, I just, I understand that like there's a crazy fandom, like clearly we are huge fans of the show, but I'm just like, well, the hell is going to see Kyle?
24:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it is a mixture of women who want to like potentially have a chance to like hook up with him.
24:59
[SPEAKER_01]: And is that a long line or like guys who want to sort of be like him?
25:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe not as age, but people who sort of, yeah, I will say this like, I'm not either of those groups or his age.
25:11
[SPEAKER_04]: He looks fantastic.
25:13
[SPEAKER_04]: When when I say is that a long line, that's not a shade to how he looks.
25:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I think
25:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just that like we know Kyle from this show and I'm like, but there are bravo jersey chasers basically and yeah, yeah, for Southern charm, for summer house, for man, my brules and it's just like, I don't know.
25:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, again, I'm not in those camps, but like, I do appreciate that like Carl, the person who, I think sometimes Carl has like,
25:40
[SPEAKER_01]: kind of implicitly co-sign a lot of Kyle's behavior over the years by not calling him out because that was that was not he was the one with like more of the issues to figure out yeah right and so like I mean also I don't know if the in the middle of the party was like the perfect place to have this conversation you good yeah he's like are you happy you know but I do like the he says he like I feel responsibility to help and like yeah he's asking very direct questions and I think that him saying to Kyle like
26:09
[SPEAKER_01]: After Kyle said, I'm happy when I press play and Carl goes, that's because you want attention.
26:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that was a great And Carl.
26:18
[SPEAKER_04]: By the way, and Kyle was like, yeah, I don't get it from Amanda.
26:22
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, he's not getting really what Carl's saying.
26:25
[SPEAKER_04]: I just think that we could have watched this entire season as it's edited and them not be getting divorced because we've watched this before like now that we know they're getting divorced we're like it's so visible but I was like it was visible last season and the season before and the season before they could not be more opposite and all of the conversations are the same except for I guess they're being more
26:52
[SPEAKER_04]: out loud with what everyone's already thinking.
26:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I feel like to me the difference is Amanda, to me the difference is like I do believe that like she's had this five-year struggle to like find herself again and then figure out like her medication and all these different things that have resulted in her being a much more confident self-assured person who like has a clear review of her life and like not to me is the big difference
27:21
[SPEAKER_01]: that she maybe maybe she couldn't make this big decision to leave him until she figured that out for herself.
27:29
[SPEAKER_04]: Also hearing her actually talk about some of the things.
27:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
27:34
[SPEAKER_04]: There's this rumor sent into page six and you know, I have other wives of DJs whose spouse like does the DJ set and comes home, not Kyle, Kyle goes out and he hangs out with the owners and then he's drinking and she's numb to it now.
27:55
[SPEAKER_04]: But even if I was like five years younger than Amanda, that's just not what anyone who gets married thinks they're signing up for, especially when that wasn't their career when you got married.
28:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's the part is that he did this when she was actively being like, hey, slow down, don't go out as much.
28:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Come back early.
28:12
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's go look at houses and new jersey.
28:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
28:15
[SPEAKER_04]: And then he'll like, you know what?
28:17
[SPEAKER_04]: I want to be a DJ.
28:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
28:19
[SPEAKER_01]: So I mentioned the breadcrumming and it really does feel like the editors have like,
28:24
[SPEAKER_01]: any possible little interaction or comment is like being emphasized and highlighted in the editing and they're doing a pretty good job of it like it's kind of wild when you stack it all up.
28:35
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like driving in separate cars, you know, she's being really open to these new girls.
28:39
[SPEAKER_01]: She just met about the fact that she is not supportive of the DJ career.
28:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, she is saying everything.
28:45
[SPEAKER_01]: She's everything.
28:46
[SPEAKER_01]: it's like we even get this footage from five weeks earlier which I don't understand how they have footage from five weeks earlier on to get that but see her as like being like no you should be pissed off about him.
28:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you know following through on this DJ thing?
28:57
[SPEAKER_01]: You know there is the whole thing about you know go get the alcohol on the car and what was that about?
29:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't embarrass yourself in front of the new girls.
29:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't go too hard.
29:06
[SPEAKER_01]: The the
29:07
[SPEAKER_01]: There were all these little things, even her shading, like him pouring her too much wine, like it was just like everything is like a thing.
29:14
[SPEAKER_04]: Everything's annoying.
29:15
[SPEAKER_04]: Everything's annoying her.
29:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Everything.
29:17
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't understand Kyle being so upset about getting stuff out of the car.
29:21
[SPEAKER_04]: And all the other guys are like, of course we're going to get out of our.
29:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I know he just wants to send it, Cali though.
29:28
[SPEAKER_01]: He just wants to, he wants to get after.
29:29
[SPEAKER_01]: They show him cracking open a lover boy at the other guy's whole thing.
29:35
[SPEAKER_04]: He's also, I'm sure she complains 24-7 because she has a lot to complain about, like, he's giving her material to complain about.
29:45
[SPEAKER_04]: Totally.
29:45
[SPEAKER_04]: But it seems like so whenever she asks him for something, he's like, you're complaining and asking me to do something.
29:52
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's like, yeah.
29:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
29:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And like, you should just do without me asking for a small.
29:58
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
30:00
[SPEAKER_04]: Also, Kyle is, I think,
30:03
[SPEAKER_04]: a star in his head, he's got a little crack in him and I love crack, but he's got a little crack in him.
30:09
[SPEAKER_01]: They're that same gene and that's why they are, they've got had.
30:11
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
30:12
[SPEAKER_04]: And so I feel like he's like, oh no, gooding it out of the car.
30:16
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, what have been here for 10 years, someone else get this out of the car?
30:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, totally.
30:21
[SPEAKER_01]: So at the first dinner, they have pizza and...
30:25
[SPEAKER_04]: By the way, best, best looking delivery pizza I've ever seen.
30:28
[SPEAKER_01]: It was fantastic.
30:30
[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, this came in a box.
30:32
[SPEAKER_01]: There goes with that menu.
30:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, can I help this order?
30:35
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I was like, where did this pizza go from?
30:37
[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, I agree.
30:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And the whole freaking table was like 12 pizzas.
30:42
[SPEAKER_01]: But there's like multiple moments at this dinner again.
30:43
[SPEAKER_01]: It's in front of everybody in front of new people.
30:46
[SPEAKER_01]: It's mixed company kind of for them at this point.
30:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the rings thing where Kyle lost his ring.
30:53
[SPEAKER_01]: And so because of that, a man is refusing to wear her ring until he gets a new one.
30:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
30:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, right now, like in February, 2026, he's wearing her ring or at least he was in an interview last week with like the whole cast in every together.
31:06
[SPEAKER_01]: But what do you think of her sort of like protesting the ring thing?
31:11
[SPEAKER_01]: It's interesting.
31:12
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm married, I don't know, I'm wearing on.
31:15
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't work my ring every day and now there's my husband I don't even think his fits him anymore, but he has to take it off every day for work, so like that's why it's just not convenient.
31:26
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and he'll wear just like he orders like a rubber one from like Amazon for type $5.
31:32
[SPEAKER_04]: So he'll wear that when he like needs to wear a wedding ring, but like I don't think rings there that big video.
31:38
[SPEAKER_04]: That being said, the way that conversation went, I was like, this is not good.
31:44
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, it's not like you guys both are on the same page and don't really care about rings.
31:47
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not that big of a deal.
31:49
[SPEAKER_04]: It's your life, I'm not wearing it until you get another one.
31:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Also, when did you lose it?
31:56
[SPEAKER_04]: How did you lose it?
31:56
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's pretty easy to get like a rubber one.
32:00
[SPEAKER_04]: Like same day delivery, Kyle.
32:03
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think I feel differently if my husband was like out every morning to like five a.m. hammered constantly.
32:11
[SPEAKER_04]: You need to wear ring.
32:13
[SPEAKER_04]: if that's what you're going to be doing.
32:15
[SPEAKER_04]: And so I get it, but again, it's just like all of this constantly happening in front of everyone and then the editors just like showing the silence and like a season of everyone like, is anyone going to say how this is so awkward?
32:33
[SPEAKER_01]: it's great I wonder like the level of awkwardness they all truly felt you know it's like it's it's a mustard and pretty awkward it's like those are big I mean also there's the whole again like Amanda's like let me tell you the story about his DJ career he wanted to start it because I wanted to start my own business so he did this to spite me and again she's saying in front of everybody looking for to see her for backup she also like has this moment where he's talking and he's like well Amanda's not listening and then she's like oh
33:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you think I'm jealous.
33:02
[SPEAKER_01]: You think I'm jealous and I was like, wait, that's not what he was saying.
33:06
[SPEAKER_04]: Also then she's like, and you're right.
33:07
[SPEAKER_04]: I wasn't listening.
33:09
[SPEAKER_04]: I was just like, ugh.
33:10
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he gets his shot in.
33:11
[SPEAKER_01]: There's not that much Netflix and chill going on.
33:14
[SPEAKER_01]: So I have to go out and DJ.
33:17
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's rough.
33:19
[SPEAKER_04]: It's wrong.
33:20
[SPEAKER_04]: Also, um, was that at the party?
33:23
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it was at the party where he was like, Oh, man, I didn't know you still know how to handle a cock or something like that.
33:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
33:30
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just like the entire, like we can't count.
33:33
[SPEAKER_04]: There were so many times the episode where I was just like, they hate each other.
33:38
[SPEAKER_04]: But the house has to know that.
33:40
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was also thinking people like CROS, Jesse Carl, are also like, it's been like this for a little bit.
33:48
[SPEAKER_04]: It's reaching its breaking point.
33:50
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think they can all sense that, which is also like, Carl was like, are you okay?
33:55
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I feel like, because it's been so much in one night, I think everyone's like, this is not.
34:02
[SPEAKER_04]: And even here, Sierra,
34:04
[SPEAKER_04]: talking about how, like, Kyle's my friend, but it's really hard for me to be nice to him because I know how I'm in a field and I know what he's done to Amanda.
34:13
[SPEAKER_04]: It feels like everyone senses it's getting to its breaking point, but they're also at the same time used to it.
34:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we've been through this.
34:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
34:23
[SPEAKER_01]: It feels different, but the same.
34:25
[SPEAKER_01]: And I also wonder as you were talking, I was thinking about, like,
34:28
[SPEAKER_01]: how long has has been going like in this sort of level.
34:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's hard to tell because last summer, I'm like last season they actually had one of their better, more cordial seasons as a couple.
34:38
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
34:39
[SPEAKER_01]: But part of that, I think also was the fact that like the page and Craig thing was taking up so much oxygen in the room and like that was the thing we were really focusing on and also page and Kyle had drama.
34:51
[SPEAKER_01]: So like that was sort of the focus was more towards over here.
34:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that like we weren't, we weren't even really paying as much attention to like the status of Kyle and Amanda in a way.
35:01
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but also if you go like way back, I was thinking about this.
35:04
[SPEAKER_04]: It seems like there's always someone who has an issue, always a woman who has an issue with Kyle.
35:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
35:11
[SPEAKER_04]: And usually it stems from them feeling like they're also standing up for Amanda because Amanda's not standing up for himself for herself and I think like Hannah and Kyle, which obviously this was a long time ago, Hannah and Kyle had their issues, but then it escalated because Hannah was like, you can talk to Amanda like that.
35:32
[SPEAKER_04]: Don't talk to me like that.
35:34
[SPEAKER_04]: So it was like, I feel like in the same thing with page and Kyle like,
35:38
[SPEAKER_04]: page and Kyle had their issues because of Craig and all that, but it's also like page being like fuck this guy.
35:44
[SPEAKER_04]: You don't even treat my friend, right?
35:46
[SPEAKER_04]: And like, I'm not gonna let you do to me what you do to her.
35:49
[SPEAKER_04]: And it seems like it's happened multiple times.
35:52
[SPEAKER_04]: And now, Sierra is now going at Kyle a little bit.
35:56
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's a similar thing.
35:57
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm just like, if this is the first season where I'm like, it seems like Amanda doesn't need help.
36:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, she's ready to say whatever she wants to say she can do it her.
36:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a really good.
36:09
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a really good point.
36:10
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a big difference.
36:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, first of all, shout out to Sierra who once again is like a real fucking friend and like, God damn, like she's and she's really, she's just good at this.
36:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Like she's being a genuinely good friend to Amanda.
36:25
[SPEAKER_01]: She's asking all the right questions.
36:26
[SPEAKER_01]: She's like giving hard truths the same things she was in a page last year and like it's obviously like,
36:33
[SPEAKER_01]: difficult for them but like it's really gratifying to watch I think is a viewer to like watch her say what we want to say yes so we want to say and like I always believe that good friendship is is asking those tough questions and and sharing hard truths and so like it's sort of a it's sort of duly good for her to do this and it's like God it's it's she's really good she really is
36:55
[SPEAKER_04]: I know, and it's just interesting because it feels like she can have those conversations about them, but when it comes to her and her love life, it's not happening.
37:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if we'll get through a verse.
37:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if like if this if this Jesse and West stuff like really starts to become a thing this season, like, yeah, we'll see.
37:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought I would miss both of them more on this episode and that's part of why the episode impressed me because they were without two of the biggest personalities and stars that on the show and they still did a really excellent job.
37:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited for Lindsay to be there, 100% like I think that I went to this panel event last week with the whole cast and they were saying that like when Lindsay comes in,
37:45
[SPEAKER_01]: like on her few weekend she's there like when she senses something is going on like she's going to call it out in front of everybody.
37:52
[SPEAKER_01]: And sometimes you need that like the show needs time for some times.
37:56
[SPEAKER_01]: So I didn't feel her missing in the way that I expected to but I'm excited for her to be there.
38:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Then page I'm glad they acknowledge page because I hate when they like lose somebody and like forget it.
38:10
[SPEAKER_01]: But I almost wonder if like
38:14
[SPEAKER_01]: taking the bed bugs down from three to two, forces them out of the bed.
38:19
[SPEAKER_01]: It's incomplete.
38:21
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
38:21
[SPEAKER_04]: I texted my reality group chat this morning.
38:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
38:24
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, listen, I love page.
38:29
[SPEAKER_04]: But this show is going to be better without her.
38:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you elaborate on why better?
38:34
[SPEAKER_04]: It's rude.
38:34
[SPEAKER_04]: That's hard for me.
38:35
[SPEAKER_04]: Need to say because I love her so much and I think she's really finding and she made me laugh and I love her confessionals and all of it.
38:41
[SPEAKER_04]: But the past at least two seasons.
38:44
[SPEAKER_04]: Page was the leader of that group.
38:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Very much so.
38:48
[SPEAKER_04]: So if Page didn't want to go, if Page wanted to be like, I'm going to bad.
38:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, and kind of makes it like a joke.
38:56
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, you're this old and you're going out like cool, bro.
38:59
[SPEAKER_04]: Like where the cool ones were staying in.
39:01
[SPEAKER_04]: Amanda and Sierra needed no excuse to not do anything.
39:06
[SPEAKER_04]: And it seems like Amanda and Sierra are much more willing to have fun and be loose without her there.
39:15
[SPEAKER_04]: That's not necessarily like all of Paige's fault.
39:18
[SPEAKER_04]: They were following her.
39:19
[SPEAKER_04]: That was their choice.
39:20
[SPEAKER_04]: She wasn't making anyone do anything.
39:22
[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm more excited to see them in the mix and the whole house mixing it up and even like having Jesse and West like a part of the bed bugs and like
39:31
[SPEAKER_04]: people feel safe to go into their rooms with with page she was really intimidating and there was three there was no space for other people.
39:38
[SPEAKER_04]: It seems like it's more communal living which is what I want to watch.
39:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's an opportunity for them and it's also, it opens up a literal space for maybe one of these four new girls to like more of an opportunity to create those friendships.
39:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I totally, I totally agree and I think the part of Paige also, I also really love her, but like she had this like really flourishing career outside of summer house happening and I think that she subconsciously probably like just knew that she could always rely on that like and she could
40:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Like she knew she could lay in bed on this show that she was getting paid well for have a couple funny moments and like kind of call it a day, you know, and like she had everything else good she wasn't getting fired and so there was like a safety there and so I think, um, hardly.
40:27
[SPEAKER_04]: She also had a boyfriend, a pretty serious boyfriend for most of the past few seasons.
40:33
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
40:34
[SPEAKER_04]: And also, like, her brand deals are super important to her.
40:38
[SPEAKER_04]: So there's, there was part of her that probably thought, I can't go too hard.
40:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Brand safety.
40:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
40:45
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
40:45
[SPEAKER_04]: I do love her.
40:47
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure I'll miss her at the end of it all.
40:49
[SPEAKER_04]: But after watching this episode, I was like,
40:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Is this going to be even better?
40:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
40:55
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just crazy.
40:56
[SPEAKER_04]: And I love that.
40:56
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, Lindsay's still mixed in.
40:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, me too.
40:59
[SPEAKER_01]: The last sort of element of the Kyle and Amanda thing I just want to end with is like, they're doing it also a really good job.
41:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I think somewhere else has always done a good job at this is breaking the fourth wall in a way that's like really natural and not doesn't force it.
41:12
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not too much.
41:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the page six thing where they talked about, like how many wrote into page six, Kyle denied it, we squashed it,
41:23
[SPEAKER_01]: hearing about how for Amanda like untangling the internet saying she should divorce him for the past five years and like is that me thinking that is that so many people have told me this that I start to believe it.
41:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I think those two things being talked about in this first episode like were necessary because it's acknowledging like
41:44
[SPEAKER_01]: They've been built up as this, I mean, not built up, but they've been this couple in the public eye for 10 years now and there's so much noise around them and there have been so many accusations about continuing on her.
41:55
[SPEAKER_01]: So I just really liked that they brought those things up and allowed them to say in the show, because I think that's important.
42:01
[SPEAKER_01]: It's fixed if you're a part of it.
42:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely, but it's not forced.
42:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
42:05
[SPEAKER_04]: I even like that there is a few clips of Kyle just talking to himself in the room, which I'm like, is he talking to a producer and you can't really tell if he's talking to himself or producer?
42:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think about it that way.
42:19
[SPEAKER_04]: But I like that they kept it in there because he's like every summer, Amanda does everything to make me feel invisible and like it didn't seem like he was like a muttering to himself.
42:30
[SPEAKER_04]: Like he was having full conversation, could it have been to himself?
42:33
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but could he have also been talking to a producer or a camera guy?
42:37
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
42:38
[SPEAKER_01]: because I've also, I've heard them say, I've asked them something about how they communicate.
42:43
[SPEAKER_01]: They will talk into their mic to producers, like not even if they're physically in the room, like that's, they will do that.
42:48
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, that's a good theory.
42:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even think about that.
42:52
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I was just like, oh, interesting.
42:54
[SPEAKER_04]: They kept that in there, but I liked it.
42:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Me too, me too.
42:57
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
42:58
[SPEAKER_01]: So obviously again, and we talked about how this is like, we've seen this before, but it does feel like a different sort of level with them.
43:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you,
43:06
[SPEAKER_01]: the old watching the episode at all that like they kind of knew it was done between them and we're sort of going through the motions or now.
43:13
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because I also thought about, I was like, oh, that was so good.
43:16
[SPEAKER_04]: One is the divorce going to happen.
43:18
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, when is that going to come to a head?
43:19
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, we can't do this all season.
43:21
[SPEAKER_04]: Unless, obviously, it can get better when we can bad another weekend.
43:26
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, we might be on a roller coaster this entire time.
43:28
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
43:28
[SPEAKER_04]: This entire season.
43:29
[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm like, if it's this bad all season, like, that's rough for them to rewatch and relive.
43:37
[SPEAKER_04]: But like, I can't.
43:39
[SPEAKER_04]: It was like, like, ugh, like the whole episode
43:43
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think at this point they have come to terms with them getting a divorce.
43:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Do I think that they both...
43:52
[SPEAKER_04]: are thinking that might be the best answer.
43:55
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, I just don't think that they've agreed to that yet.
43:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, right.
43:59
[SPEAKER_04]: They're absolutely having conversations, but I just don't think they have come to that yet.
44:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, totally.
44:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess it's almost like they were maybe sub-thinking, like, all right, let's just get through this one, this, this, this, Tennessee, so I'm like, they, because they know they're gonna spin off after this, they know they're gonna be filming for next several months at the end of the summer.
44:18
[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm also wondering,
44:20
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, I don't know how to force work, like I've never been in a divorce, but it seems like they're at the step where they're talking to everyone else with them, but each other.
44:28
[SPEAKER_01]: That too.
44:29
[SPEAKER_01]: We know we get at least one conversation of them on the beach that it's like really intense.
44:33
[SPEAKER_01]: We know that.
44:34
[SPEAKER_01]: But right now that's absolute the stage they're in.
44:36
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because like the things that Kyle was saying to Carl, the things that Kyle was saying to those random people who have never seen before, I was like, are these your friends, like, that's part of the issue.
44:46
[SPEAKER_01]: That's part of the issue.
44:47
[SPEAKER_04]: We have a deep combo with about the state of his marriage.
44:52
[SPEAKER_04]: Amanda and Sierra, like, if they were still together, if I'm watching this episode, I'd be like, why aren't you saying this to me and saying it to everyone else?
45:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Kyle being like, I just worry that our personalities are so polar opposite.
45:06
[SPEAKER_04]: It's never going to work.
45:08
[SPEAKER_04]: That's a crazy thing to say.
45:10
[SPEAKER_01]: It's really big.
45:12
[SPEAKER_01]: True.
45:13
[SPEAKER_04]: And with Amanda being like, I don't know if I think I should get divorced or if the internet's just telling me to get divorced.
45:19
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, okay, so you think you should get divorced.
45:23
[SPEAKER_04]: You're just not sure if it's from you or the internet.
45:26
[SPEAKER_04]: But you, but right now, you believe that.
45:28
[SPEAKER_04]: You think that she should get divorced, right?
45:30
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
45:32
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I know, but it's so good.
45:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's beyond.
45:38
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, again, sad for them.
45:39
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the right thing to do, but it's a great, it's a great premiere.
45:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like, I'm obviously very excited for the rest of the season, but I'm also thinking about just like, this is a big year for that whole group, because it's like, we're getting another show after this.
45:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, we don't know when, Amanda said it'll watch happens lie
46:00
[SPEAKER_01]: moved out of their apartment right before BravoCon.
46:03
[SPEAKER_01]: So we know that is like part of the timeline.
46:05
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's I think that's during in the city filming because I know they had like, they started in like September.
46:10
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that that would, you know, probably do they have another, yeah.
46:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Or I think they maybe had just wrapped before BravoCon or something.
46:19
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just we're going to see a lot of this.
46:20
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to see the whole there, which is interesting because, you know, with like page and Craig and Lindsey and Carl and you know, different breakups over the past couple years, we've expected them to pick up cameras and that's how we see it.
46:35
[SPEAKER_01]: But now we're getting a full show that's going to show us the aftermath of whatever decision they make, or we know that decision they make.
46:40
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, we're going to see everything from right now to the end of the day.
46:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
46:45
[SPEAKER_04]: on multiple shows.
46:47
[SPEAKER_04]: Which is sad, but I do think it's best for both of them.
46:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, definitely.
46:51
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like I do like both of them a lot.
46:54
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just think that they're, they were not meant to be together.
46:56
[SPEAKER_01]: They were not compatible.
46:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Increasingly so their lifestyles were not.
47:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Going in different directions.
47:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you know what's interesting is I have a friend who started watching summer house maybe two seasons ago Okay, and I keep being like your opinions are insane because you don't know everything You know what I mean like it drives me.
47:17
[SPEAKER_04]: What's an example?
47:17
[SPEAKER_04]: Ray Z But
47:20
[SPEAKER_04]: her and my other one of my best friends husband's last night was like let's watch a good show before bed and she was like awesome I have just the thing and she said she put this on which I was like I'm sure he was like this is not what I was talking about but I was like what did he think and she said he went to sleep but before he went to sleep she was like they're
47:47
[SPEAKER_04]: And my friend who started watching two seasons ago was always like, what's Amanda's problem?
47:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, she's so mean to Kyle.
47:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm putting all on her.
47:56
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and I'm just like, guys, you can't have an opinion.
47:59
[SPEAKER_04]: If you haven't been here from the beginning.
48:01
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, doesn't Amanda have a problem with Kyle to pass a couple of years and like, it's constantly on him.
48:07
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but she's been dealing with this for, yeah,
48:10
[SPEAKER_04]: years, years and years and years.
48:13
[SPEAKER_04]: So I feel like it's hard if you haven't seen it all to have an opinion on it.
48:19
[SPEAKER_04]: But it seems like people that haven't seen it all are only seeing a man to be rude to me.
48:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's been.
48:26
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a good thing to point out, because you also, those who wore a missing, like, a big child, a big child, a oblique cheating, no, that he cheated on her and admitted to it.
48:35
[SPEAKER_04]: Not only that, but even like other things where how many seasons ago when he was like, I mean, I know, I haven't given my number out in like six months.
48:43
[SPEAKER_04]: She's like, we've been together for seven years.
48:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
48:49
[SPEAKER_04]: More like the amount of times that he would be like, I'm not going out, come a little bit for a yet.
48:53
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not going to be strong, come a little bit for a yet.
48:54
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to come a little bit for a, like, it's just been constant.
48:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
48:59
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think for me, like I think for a couple of years there, I kind of presumed we would see so much bad stuff on the show.
49:05
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just kind of presumed that filming and like the lifestyle that had to adopt for 10 weeks, every summer, like kind of party forward
49:17
[SPEAKER_01]: cause a lot of trouble in their relationship and then outside of filming they would be they're probably better and he's probably drinking less and partying less and I think that that maybe was true for a little bit there but then again like him jumping into this DJ career just like totally flush like that theory out down the drain and it just I mean that was the final straw yes
49:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and I think it took her getting her everything settled in her to like really acknowledge that and admit that.
49:49
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like you've told him a million times that this is what you need and he was like, you know what, I'm going to go to a career that's the exact opposite of everything that she wants.
50:01
[SPEAKER_04]: And after a minute, she was like, yeah, that's probably not who I need to be with.
50:09
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, if, yeah, he thinks that that's more important than everything I'm telling him than I need, then like we're not meant to be together.
50:16
[SPEAKER_01]: The DJ career does replace lover boy in terms of the... Yeah, we know.
50:22
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, yeah, and what should happen is live when Andy was like, I assume you want a piece of it.
50:27
[SPEAKER_04]: She was like, no.
50:28
[SPEAKER_01]: He dodged that.
50:30
[SPEAKER_04]: And also, like, he worked on that haunted and he worked on her marriage.
50:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, where's the lie, you know?
50:35
[SPEAKER_04]: And I don't, do you think it'll get ugly or you think they're gonna be fine?
50:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're fine now, like they seem fine.
50:41
[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm saying, do you think it'll get ugly?
50:43
[SPEAKER_04]: They're not divorced yet.
50:45
[SPEAKER_04]: No, like going through the actual divorce and separating things and all of that, like I'm wondering if it will get ugly.
50:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope not.
50:54
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a really good question.
50:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I really am debating what I think.
50:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope not, too, and I feel like they both seem committed to not doing that, but we know how that can go.
51:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of think it won't, I kind of think that they are acting compared to like, again, page and credit, all the, you know, Lindsey and Carl, what we were seeing from those people as their breakup seasons were airing, completely different energy from them as a couple, or as a duo.
51:27
[SPEAKER_04]: I also think Amanda is, and it always has been unfortunately like a little bit more of a pushover than like a Lindsey and a page.
51:35
[SPEAKER_04]: So even like the love or boy question and how she acted about it.
51:38
[SPEAKER_04]: Like I could see Lindsey being like, no, I get part of that.
51:42
[SPEAKER_04]: I worked on it, did it, did it it out.
51:43
[SPEAKER_04]: And I could see Amanda being like, let him have it.
51:45
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not worth it.
51:46
[SPEAKER_04]: So that, yeah, so it makes things easier.
51:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a good, that's a good point too, because there is like completely different personality types and all our expectations.
51:54
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so.
51:56
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm hoping she doesn't get fucked over at all of that, but, and I'm hoping that it doesn't get ugly, but I was just thinking last night with some of the questions, like some of her answers, I was like, oh, yeah, but not too bad, but just like a little burn to Kyle, and I'm like, I wonder how this is going to go?
52:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
52:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we'll see.
52:16
[SPEAKER_01]: We're rolling at this.
52:18
[SPEAKER_01]: So we again, we have a full season of summer house and a full season of in the city to quench our thirst.
52:25
[SPEAKER_04]: So very excited.
52:27
[SPEAKER_04]: Also, I don't know if you saw a little teaser from in the city, which gave us like nothing, nothing, but them walking around a park bench.
52:34
[SPEAKER_04]: And I remember thinking with the valley, do you remember that weird thing like that, where they're like riding around and like kids keeping.
52:42
[SPEAKER_04]: I remember seeing that and being like this show is going to suck.
52:46
[SPEAKER_04]: See, so seeing that little teaser and having that same thought, I was like, please give us a valley because I absolutely love the valley.
52:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
52:57
[SPEAKER_04]: So wrong.
52:58
[SPEAKER_04]: But that teaser was like the ultimate cringe to me.
53:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was so cheesy.
53:03
[SPEAKER_04]: But now like the valley is one of my favorite shows.
53:06
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm hoping the same happens for in the city, but that teaser, I was like, what is this?
53:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Some of the, some of the in the city people, they haven't been announced, but some of them were at the summer house party last night for the premier.
53:20
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're like, they're like in a soft launch them, and I'm, I'm cautiously optimistic.
53:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I, it's hard to imagine like,
53:27
[SPEAKER_01]: this condiment of situation, plus Lindsay Hubbard, plus like, you know, Andrea and his wife, like they have somewhat good TV, right?
53:36
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
53:38
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I'll be happy to have Lindsay back on my screen full time.
53:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
53:41
[SPEAKER_04]: And seeing her as a mom and navigating her relationship which seems to be very up and down.
53:45
[SPEAKER_04]: And so, yeah, it's not great.
53:48
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
53:49
[SPEAKER_04]: But a lot of women go through that.
53:51
[SPEAKER_04]: So I think it'll be fun to watch.
53:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Totally.
53:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Kelly, I appreciate you hopping on to talk about, I mean, this is, I think some rounds of the best show I'm robber right now.
54:00
[SPEAKER_01]: That's just I'm going to say something.
54:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
54:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's, I agree.
54:03
[SPEAKER_04]: And I really love Southern charm.
54:05
[SPEAKER_04]: But the feeling I had watching that episode, it's different.
54:10
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it is different for some reason.
54:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's next level.
54:13
[SPEAKER_01]: What are you currently, like recapping and talking about on morally corrupt these days?
54:18
[SPEAKER_04]: On morally corrupt we'll probably cover summer house and then we pick shows every week so like this week it'll probably be Potomac reunion summer house and then I assume Beverly Hills because we haven't done that in a little bit but we are recapping
54:36
[SPEAKER_04]: All the shows on Bravo, it's different shows every single week, and then on bachelor party, which is a Tuesday or a Monday Thursday podcast That I co-host with Juliet Littman.
54:47
[SPEAKER_04]: We cover the traders and tell me lies, which were also like Two of the better shows.
54:52
[SPEAKER_04]: I think on television.
54:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm enjoying the season of tell me lies and of course the traders, but yeah I was a little more down on tell me lies for season two like what didn't do it do as much for me But this season is I'm locked in.
55:03
[SPEAKER_04]: It's
55:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, last question for, are you, what do you think about Taylor Frankie Paul as the bachelor at?
55:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you excited for that?
55:13
[SPEAKER_04]: I am excited for it because I have not loved having to cover the Bachelor up for a while.
55:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
55:20
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just been such like a downer show and to completely mix it up and kind of like throw a Hail Mary like if this doesn't work then like we're gonna we might have to reimagine what the show looks like even though the rating's for it is still amazing so like people are watching it.
55:36
[SPEAKER_04]: but I am excited for someone like her to be on the show and to watch it and Julia and I have been saying for a while that I think I want to see people that I actually know, like go on these shows and navigate them, like having a famous person on or send my famous or I don't know what word you want to call them on the show.
55:59
[SPEAKER_04]: I think we'll make it fun.
56:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Is there a famous man who'd want me to Bachelor?
56:07
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we've talked about Shaq.
56:10
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that could be interesting.
56:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I was not expecting you to say that.
56:14
[SPEAKER_01]: That is fantastic.
56:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my God.
56:17
[SPEAKER_04]: Someone like that, I think would be really fun and interesting because we just don't see his dating life that much.
56:25
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
56:25
[SPEAKER_04]: Somebody like that, that everybody knows of, that's single, that's willing to do fun and crazy things.
56:32
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what that price point would look like, right, but like the values would be great.
56:37
[SPEAKER_01]: The ratings would be great.
56:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Great.
56:39
[SPEAKER_04]: Great, especially like he could fit into that that golden bachelor.
56:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
56:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
56:45
[SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, I think that's someone who like top my tops my list.
56:48
[SPEAKER_04]: I know a lot of people are talking about Rob.
56:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
56:51
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to see it because I love him so much.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I don't know if he cares that much about getting married yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it would be that serious.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Right, so I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cali, I appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, of course.
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