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- Lucas: So we've talked a lot about Nero himself — his building projects, his artistic ambitions, his relationship with the Praetorian Guard. But one figure who looms large in the later part of his reign is Poppaea Sabina, his second wife. She's often portrayed as a scheming femme fatale, but when you actually look at the sources, there's a much more interesting story. Luna: I feel like I've heard her name mostly in connection with Agrippina's murder. Lucas: Exactly. The standard narrative, especially from Tacitus, is that Poppaea pushed Nero to kill his mother. But let's step back. Poppaea came from a distinguished family — her father was Titus Ollius, a friend of Sejanus, and her mother was Poppaea Sabina Maior, who was famous for her beauty and was executed under Claudius. So she grew up around imperial politics, knowing how dangerous the game could be. Lucas: Before Nero, she was married to Rufrius Crispinus, a Praetorian prefect, and then to Otho, who would later become emperor for a few months. Otho was a close friend of Nero, and that's how Poppaea entered Nero's orbit. Tacitus claims Otho would brag about his wife, which made Nero interested. But that might just be gossip. Luna: So she was already well-connected before Nero. Lucas: Very much so. And when she became Nero's mistress, Agrippina saw her as a threat. Agrippina had been the power behind the throne, and she didn't want another woman influencing her son. Tacitus gives us a dramatic scene where Agrippina tries to bully Poppaea, but Poppaea fights back, using her wit and charm. Whether that's accurate or not, the tension was real. Lucas: Poppaea's influence grew, and by 62 AD, she had effectively replaced Agrippina as the most important woman in Nero's life. That same year, Agrippina was murdered. Poppaea was almost certainly involved in the plot, though the details are murky. The sources say she urged Nero to act, but she may have been a scapegoat. Luna: Was she actually married to Nero by then? Lucas: Not yet. Nero divorced his first wife, Claudia Octavia, on grounds of infertility — conveniently after Poppaea became pregnant. Octavia was exiled and then executed, which caused a public backlash. But Nero married Poppaea in 62 AD, and she was crowned Augusta, a title that had been given to imperial women before but was now formalized. Lucas: As empress, Poppaea didn't just sit around. She was a patron of the arts and philosophy. She encouraged Nero's artistic pursuits, which aligned with her own interests. She also had a reputation for luxury — Suetonius says she bathed in asses' milk to keep her skin soft. But that might be a caricature. Luna: It sounds like the sources are pretty hostile to her. Lucas: They are. Tacitus, Suetonius, Cassius Dio — they all write from a senatorial perspective that was suspicious of strong women. Poppaea was intelligent, ambitious, and she wielded power. That made her a target. For example, Tacitus says she manipulated Nero into killing his mother, but he also admits that Agrippina was already plotting against Nero. So Poppaea might have been acting in self-defense. Lucas: One thing that's often overlooked is her political acumen. She helped broker a peace with the Parthians in 63 AD, when the Armenian crisis was resolved diplomatically. She also promoted the career of Tigellinus, who became Nero's Praetorian prefect. And she seems to have been genuinely popular with the people — when she died, Nero gave her a public funeral and deified her. Luna: Wait — she was deified? I didn't know that. Lucas: Yes. She was the first living Roman empress to be deified after death, I should say — Livia was deified after Augustus, but that was later. Poppaea's deification was a huge honor. Nero also founded a cult to her, with priests and a temple. And he named the child she bore him — a daughter who died young — Claudia Augusta. So clearly, she meant a lot to him. Lucas: Her death in 65 AD is controversial. The most common story is that Nero kicked her while she was pregnant, causing a miscarriage that killed her. But that comes from Suetonius and Cassius Dio, who are late sources and hostile. Tacitus, who is more contemporary, says she died from complications of childbirth. Given the rumors that swirled around Nero, it's hard to know what's true. Luna: So we have two very different pictures of her. Lucas: Exactly. One is the scheming seductress who drove Nero to madness. The other is a capable political operator who used the tools available to her. And the reality was probably somewhere in between. She was a product of her time — a woman in a patriarchal society who had to be ruthless to survive. But she also had genuine interests in culture and diplomacy. Lucas: After her death, Nero never remarried. He did try to marry a male freedman named Sporus, who resembled Poppaea, but that was more of a symbolic gesture. Her influence lingered. And when Nero fell in 68 AD, the memory of Poppaea was used against him — his enemies painted him as a tyrant controlled by a wicked woman. Luna: It's a good reminder that history is written by the winners — and by senators who didn't like strong women. Lucas: Absolutely. Poppaea's story is a case study in how we need to read ancient sources critically. They tell us as much about the biases of the authors as they do about the past. Speaking of which — if this kind of deep dive into overlooked figures is your thing, and you've been following along with us, you might consider supporting the show. It's ad-free and listener-supported, so if today's episode was worth a coffee to you, you can find us at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. Makes a real difference. Luna: Yeah, it really does help keep these conversations going. Lucas: So back to Poppaea. There's also the question of her patronage. She sponsored poets and philosophers, and she may have influenced Nero's decision to grant special privileges to the city of Pompeii after an earthquake in 62 AD. There's an inscription from Pompeii that refers to her, and the city later became known as the 'Colonia Poppaea' under Vespasian. So her impact was tangible. Luna: I didn't realize Pompeii was connected to her. Lucas: Yes. After the earthquake, Nero sent funds for rebuilding, and Poppaea likely had a hand in that. She was from the region — her family had estates in Campania. So she had a personal stake. It's a reminder that these imperial women weren't just figures in the palace; they had real regional connections and could direct resources. Lucas: Another aspect is her relationship with the Jewish community. Josephus mentions that Poppaea was sympathetic to the Jews. He says she interceded with Nero on their behalf. That's interesting because Nero's reign saw the beginning of the First Jewish-Roman War in 66 AD. So Poppaea might have been a moderating influence, at least early on. Luna: So she was involved in foreign policy too. Lucas: She was. And her death in 65 AD removed a voice of moderation. Within a few years, the war in Judea escalated, and Nero's government became more repressive. It's hard to say how different things might have been if she had lived longer. But it's a fascinating counterfactual. Lucas: To sum up: Poppaea Sabina was far more than just a villain in Nero's story. She was a woman who, within the constraints of her time, exercised real power. She shaped policy, culture, and even the imperial succession. And while the ancient sources try to reduce her to a stereotype, a closer look reveals a complex and capable figure. Luna: I think she deserves a lot more credit than she gets. Lucas: I think so too. And it makes you wonder what other figures have been similarly distorted by ancient propaganda.