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Why We Suck at KeyForge: The Brutal Reality of The Final Refrain Tournament! · Archons Corner

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  Speaker 1: Down at the corner.
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  Speaker 2: Ready, are Charley.
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  Speaker 3: Got stories and wisdom or the cheeling power of the charge?
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  Speaker 1: Deal down at.
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  Speaker 3: The corner with the chus?
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  Speaker 1: Are you? Are we ready? It is? Everybody is here?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, this is why we can't have nice
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  Speaker 1: things in KeyForge? But what's going on? Everybody? I am
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  Speaker 1: the one, the only the w oh okay, I e
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  Speaker 1: in my new setup, so some things sound weird. I apologize.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully everything is still good. He is still talking him,
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  Speaker 1: he is still going anyway. We have a nice short
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  Speaker 1: episode for you this week because Gigi has released no news,
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  Speaker 1: so we have no idea what's going on with the
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  Speaker 1: state of KeyForge or anything. When is uh prophecies Prophetic
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  Speaker 1: Vision is supposed to drop? Anybody know? Did it a
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  Speaker 1: game found? Remember? There was like three hours?
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  Speaker 3: Why are we thinking it's earlier than like late April
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  Speaker 3: early May?
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  Speaker 1: Is that I don't remember? The game found seems like
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  Speaker 1: forever ago? Right? Is it just me? Or does the
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  Speaker 1: game found seems like oh? Dexter says early May. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like the game found was like three months ago,
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  Speaker 1: like it just it seems so long. But we're here
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  Speaker 1: to tell you guys all about why sheep and ewok
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  Speaker 1: suck a key forge, not me. I won my game
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  Speaker 1: this week. Now I'll lose this game this week because
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  Speaker 1: that's that's how things go. But she how did your
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  Speaker 1: game go? And well this is final refrain for those
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  Speaker 1: of you not in with the in with the times.
• 2:01
  Speaker 1: So oh geez, I heard a beer crack. That's how
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  Speaker 1: good it went this week, cowboys.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how that's how good it went. So I
• 2:09
  Speaker 3: was playing against Sith of Angmar. He was playing Faith Faith,
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  Speaker 3: which is the triple sand Hopper awesomely pipped card to
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  Speaker 3: make the sand hopper thing go with a puzzling trinket
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  Speaker 3: that they used to just make all draw to make
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  Speaker 3: it happen.
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  Speaker 1: And I was playing.
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  Speaker 3: Fraud, of course. So it is funny. The rumor mill
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  Speaker 3: that I hear is that when rebot was practicing, fraud
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  Speaker 3: was pretty dominant in their practice and in our practice.
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  Speaker 3: With me playing Faith and different people playing fraud, I
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  Speaker 3: won most of the games with Faith, so we had
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  Speaker 3: very different results. I put the games fifty fifty, maybe
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  Speaker 3: a little bit more towards fraud, but I only won
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  Speaker 3: one game, so I'm out. Uh you know, I lost two,
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  Speaker 3: So that that was that did you get O twoed
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  Speaker 3: no no. I The first game was pretty close. I
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  Speaker 3: made a couple interesting decisions based off of some experience,
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  Speaker 3: and faith goes really slow. Like my opening hand was
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  Speaker 3: like I don't remember, but I know I had library
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  Speaker 3: access and either one or two logos car and you know,
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  Speaker 3: fraud's usually pretty efficient and fast. So I'm like, I'm
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  Speaker 3: actually gonna discard the library access because it's not going
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  Speaker 3: to do anything right now, oh Les, I just get
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  Speaker 3: stupid lucky and I chain a million logos cards. Right,
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  Speaker 3: it's too early. It's like the first start of the game,
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  Speaker 3: so your that's bolt. So I just discarded library access,
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  Speaker 3: figuring I would get back to it with verse time
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  Speaker 3: or just flipping. Because of battle fleets, I didn't draw
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  Speaker 3: logos cards after I played and drew, so it was
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  Speaker 3: probably the right choice, as it turns out in that game.
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  Speaker 3: But I never got a chance to come back to
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  Speaker 3: the flip because Sith that game, he just landed to
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  Speaker 3: Mars board and just weeped out with Mars and I
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  Speaker 3: was just like, ah, stop rabid with six creatures or whatever,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and then you know, doing that and with
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  Speaker 3: whatever's going on set up a fuddle turn. It was
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  Speaker 3: just you know, I lost three keys to two keys.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was kind of closed, but like my
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  Speaker 3: battle Fleets didn't do much that game. It just you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's just a mediocre fraud game. Second game, I did
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  Speaker 3: all the fraud things. I went three keys to no keys,
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  Speaker 3: quite dominantly. And then end of the third game. Is
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  Speaker 3: that the third game where it just like I think
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  Speaker 3: I turned one of game three his turn one if
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  Speaker 3: it was that game. I can't remember all the games
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  Speaker 3: in order, but played all the sand hoppers right, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, bloody heck. And then the next ring
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  Speaker 3: just goes back and has this pipped up card, just
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  Speaker 3: goes to town right because he's got the it's got
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  Speaker 3: two amber pips and a drop pip on a card
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  Speaker 3: with triple sand hoppers, So then it's just to town.
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  Speaker 3: And once the I think he also had the puzzling
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  Speaker 3: trinket right away too, so then it's just draw whole
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  Speaker 3: deck basically. And I had the worst set of two
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  Speaker 3: two two's, and I made a couple of minor mistakes
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  Speaker 3: where I played creatures where I probably shouldn't have. And
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  Speaker 3: Sith did an amazing job of bubbling pointless mars creature
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  Speaker 3: or pointless shadows creatures back to the top of my deck,
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  Speaker 3: so I'd have to redraw them with bubbles. Probably should
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  Speaker 3: have discarded some cards there, but like I lost that
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  Speaker 3: game three keys to zero, like I got annihilated. Nothing
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  Speaker 3: went right. It was just it was just wretched garbage.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's how you lose.
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  Speaker 2: So in the chat there's question a price check on fraud.
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  Speaker 2: What is the new reduced price.
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  Speaker 3: At down from five grand to four grand?
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  Speaker 2: There thousand. Morgan was spot on, wait to.
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  Speaker 1: Go there, you go win winn. Yeah, that's an interesting
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  Speaker 1: matchup Faith v. Fraud at at at Roosevelt.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would be happy to play that match again.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like I did that do well. I think
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  Speaker 3: I went on to play a bunch of more games
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  Speaker 3: with Fraud that day and just kept losing to It
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  Speaker 3: was just like the t c O draw engine was
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  Speaker 3: against me. I've been there like that that whole that
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  Speaker 3: whole week had been that way too, Like there were
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  Speaker 3: some store championships I hadn't done much in It's just
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  Speaker 3: like it just felt like everything's just like not quite there.
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  Speaker 2: That week.
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  Speaker 1: Everything's just not good, and it's been pretty.
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  Speaker 2: Good didn't you take second in our store champs that week?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm losing important games.
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  Speaker 1: Second place is just first loser.
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  Speaker 3: But I have since one store championships, So some key
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  Speaker 3: Forge luck has come back to me. Okay, I yes,
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  Speaker 3: I have one with Wookies deck, and I won Alliance
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  Speaker 3: with one of Sydney's decks. I took Sydney's Martian Generosity
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  Speaker 3: key Abduction deck and trounstyle you fools.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, hey, hey, trounced is a really hard word.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, listen, you had a week time one on a
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  Speaker 1: key cheat my friend, Well, I mean that's how that does.
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  Speaker 1: That's got how that deck operates.
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  Speaker 2: That deck. I made the choice to not go ahead
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  Speaker 2: and uh kill your helperbot, and I thought about it.
• 8:02
  Speaker 2: We talked about it, and then you're like, no, I
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  Speaker 2: don't think that's a big deal. And sure enough, had
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  Speaker 2: I taken that, it gave you an extra two cards
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  Speaker 2: that played, which was the difference in the game for that.
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  Speaker 1: So Pete, what is your think? Do we need to
• 8:16
  Speaker 1: bring Pete on? Pete? What is your Like you say
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  Speaker 1: borrow decks and like you get nervous, like this isn't
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  Speaker 1: a common practice in KeyForge, Like all the time, Like,
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  Speaker 1: come on, Pete, come on up, I need to know,
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  Speaker 1: like you're always like borrow decks. Ah, hold on, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna invite him to speak here real quick
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  Speaker 1: and get him. Pete one of our locals. He does
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  Speaker 1: come to Games Universe and kind of comes from he
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  Speaker 1: comes all the places.
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  Speaker 3: Pete here won our first arc On championship over at
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  Speaker 3: Pink Money.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah and there.
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  Speaker 3: I actually think the field of decks at Pink Money
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  Speaker 3: might have been stronger than the field of decks that
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  Speaker 3: game Games Universe.
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  Speaker 1: What was this?
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  Speaker 2: Talk to me more about this.
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  Speaker 4: So this is this idea that that borrow decks are
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  Speaker 4: somehow filthy?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like you always give me this. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what eyes those are, but like when I look at them, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the side I like, I always feel like you're like,
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  Speaker 1: oh dirty, Like, well, come on, what what it's We're
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  Speaker 1: all going to borrow decks, We're all we're all in
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  Speaker 1: it to in it to win it, right, Well, sure, I.
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  Speaker 4: Mean those of us that have to to win a
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  Speaker 4: Starre Championship.
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  Speaker 3: Oh you know, you know what, I'll just like to
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  Speaker 3: let you know that I put fraud in a box
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  Speaker 3: and pick some other Garbo decks, So you guys didn't
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  Speaker 3: have to get don't.
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  Speaker 1: Shut up.
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  Speaker 3: You wouldn't even play it.
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  Speaker 1: That's not true. I can't play it because you've stolen
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  Speaker 1: it from me.
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  Speaker 3: You put it you like you opened it and you
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  Speaker 3: threw it right into your box to shame. But I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: give me that deck.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, mom, Dad, please stop fighting. Feeling really embarrassed again,
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  Speaker 2: he was like, it.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't one hundred sass, It's not good enough.
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  Speaker 4: I asked, sheep on Tuesday and our our local store championship,
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  Speaker 4: bark on, what deck are you bringing? Assuming he was
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  Speaker 4: bringing fraud because he had some other goofy stuff that
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  Speaker 4: apparently he borrowed stolen.
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  Speaker 3: I like stolen, yes, because dolen is probably more accurate.
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  Speaker 3: I was.
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  Speaker 1: I was asked to borrow them almost a year ago now,
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  Speaker 1: and I said, sure, Sheep, I will let you borrow them,
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  Speaker 1: not that he didn't already have them in his possession
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not sure why, but he borrowed them to
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  Speaker 1: go down to uh San Antonio last year and I
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  Speaker 1: have yet to receive them back. Gotcha, He says he's
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  Speaker 1: keeping them safe. You can't see that.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see what happens to yours, you lose them.
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  Speaker 2: I dore their Cheetos in there.
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  Speaker 1: Random, that's what. That's what Those Garbo decks deserve, a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of random snacks on them.
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  Speaker 2: Got it.
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  Speaker 4: So I was going to run back my Store Championship
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  Speaker 4: deck because I thought everyone was going to bring new
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  Speaker 4: decks because at Big Bunny Games there was a restriction
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  Speaker 4: that could only be Ghost Galaxy decks. And so I
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  Speaker 4: was ready to run it back, ready to get that
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  Speaker 4: second Store Championship accolade assigned to it, which apparently isn't
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  Speaker 4: a thing. And so I said, well, I'll just run
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  Speaker 4: this other deck, and then she played with the idea
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  Speaker 4: I think of running Fraud, which would have been fine.
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  Speaker 4: I would be happy to do that matchup. But I
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  Speaker 4: don't have anything against Bart decks, and I think it's
• 11:44
  Speaker 4: a great aspect of the game where it's teams sharing
• 11:47
  Speaker 4: decks amongst themselves. I think that's fantastic. I love ABR
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  Speaker 4: and that's the same thing.
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: Well, then stop giving me the side eye. It makes
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  Speaker 1: me feel dirty.
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  Speaker 4: This side I was directed at mister sheep.
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  Speaker 1: It's a sheet. Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm the dirty, dirty dirt Paul.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But anyways, so bat So now we've solved that mystery.
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  Speaker 1: Pete's not against borrow decks, so you don't have to
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  Speaker 1: worry about Pete's judgment coming down on you. But let's
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  Speaker 1: get back to we got mister ewok. Your game maybe
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  Speaker 1: took the whole match, maybe took what thirty minutes.
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: It is about thirty six with commentariat. Yeah before we no.
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  Speaker 1: No, no Beanstock touched you.
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: Oh no, Beanstock was fine. Key Forage here because there
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: was a talk about key Forge prothetic visions earlier and
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: we do actually have some information. So the latest message
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  Speaker 2: coming out on the eleventh of February, so I know,
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: about a month ago, because we're in the middle of
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: March now. It says once development wraps for production, production
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: will be in shortly after. Thanks to our partner at Artaforge,
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  Speaker 2: we can streamline the process. We'll start shipping overseas first,
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: followed by US pledges. So this you know, that's that's
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: roughly where they are. They are not ready to set
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: a firm shipping day, but typically we do see in
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  Speaker 2: May is when we're suspected, but potentially earlier from you know,
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  Speaker 2: a month ago.
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  Speaker 1: So that's good news, good news, good news, Okay, you asked.
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  Speaker 2: You asked for mine, and uh we we said that
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  Speaker 2: we were gonna do this different and I was gonna
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: be real short today, So.
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  Speaker 1: Go go, go ahead. I want to know because yours
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  Speaker 1: actually was the most You took the most interesting line
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  Speaker 1: I think I've seen play. I've only ever seen one
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  Speaker 1: other player do what you did, and it was it
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  Speaker 1: was quite interesting.
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  Speaker 2: I was just going to say I had a great game.
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  Speaker 2: Two games I played against Astron, phenomenal player.
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  Speaker 4: I lost.
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  Speaker 2: There, you go, all right, you really want more?
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  Speaker 1: Five I do because you played kind of a I've
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  Speaker 1: owned again. I've only ever seen this done one other time.
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  Speaker 1: You pretty much attempted to play no creatures.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So basically I was playing Morgan's deck Covan and Astron
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  Speaker 2: was on Astroan's top four deck. That's Astroan played over
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  Speaker 2: at Worlds so well known, well known deck that's tongue,
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  Speaker 2: and that's what I shortened it. But one on one
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  Speaker 2: sasas it has Brobner and Brobner, as you said, was beanstock.
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  Speaker 2: But with the being stock, it's got recklessness down to
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  Speaker 2: size cooffinist Riot Smith and then we're looking at double
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  Speaker 2: blunderbore krim Torts, truth lifting, Buddy Old Boomy or Orner's
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  Speaker 2: skullface and ironically the card that didn't seem to do
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  Speaker 2: much in any of my practice matchups, but Yo Mama Mastery, which,
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: in case anyone has forgotten about that sweet rare amber
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  Speaker 2: pip upgrade, this creature gains taunts but play fully heal
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  Speaker 2: this creature. That's kind of a deal breaker because co
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  Speaker 2: Van the deck that I was playing super Cool ninety
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  Speaker 2: seven SaaS amber Sky's deck, triple junk restoration, Google keeping
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  Speaker 2: echofly double a rise with a nice sweet geistoid enhanced
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  Speaker 2: piped on one of those arises, and specifically a vapor
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  Speaker 2: amp that has a geistoid pip so uhid enhanced housepip.
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  Speaker 2: So basically the line that I was trying to go
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  Speaker 2: ahead and take is I saw that on Tongue Tongue
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  Speaker 2: has eighteen printed amber with Brobner unfathomable, and on Tame
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  Speaker 2: they didn't say the other two houses, but basically double
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  Speaker 2: TANGI Mangie Wi Coolia but Blunderbore seemed to be, in
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  Speaker 2: my opinion, the most important kind of amber control. So
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: if you look at the amber control stats on d Okay,
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  Speaker 2: Wikolia thing from the deep, Blunderboar, and Tangi Manji, and
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  Speaker 2: so that was my target. I looked at the deck
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, how can I beat this deck if
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: I put out creatures. If you have Beanstock out and
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  Speaker 2: you have Blunderbore already there, you can go out and fight,
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  Speaker 2: and if it kills it, you can actually bring it back.
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  Speaker 2: With Beanstock played again. The recklessness can go ahead and
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  Speaker 2: get rid of my hand, but the coffin is right
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  Speaker 2: can reuse it. So there is a lot of use
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  Speaker 2: there for amber control. And with Blunderborn being minus two,
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  Speaker 2: I just thought it was too big of a liability
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  Speaker 2: and my board is small creatures. So I made the
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  Speaker 2: decision early on that I think the line is actually
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  Speaker 2: to not play a single creature at all, but instead
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  Speaker 2: be able to go ahead and use the double against
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: all flags from my deck for steel, go ahead and
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: run junk restoration, and then when I need to, I'm
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: going to basically rule of six the goalkeeping echo fly.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: I have a line with the Arise to basically go
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  Speaker 2: ahead and limit it's creatures being played or actions with
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  Speaker 2: that vapor imp. So there's that was the goal. And
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: when I came in to the match in the matchups,
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: this was not the deck that I want to see.
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  Speaker 2: The matchup is not great for me. Just it's not good.
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  Speaker 2: But I still place it probably at forty sixty or
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: maybe thirty seventy for Ashton. I still think Astroan has
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  Speaker 2: a huge, huge, huge high probability of being able to win.
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  Speaker 2: But the game was super interesting. And the reason I
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: thought that Astroan had that high percentage, and we'll be
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: arguing whether that's true or not, is Covan has limited
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  Speaker 2: C and no hard R so Beanstock I have no
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: response for I cannot do anything about it. So I
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: can't mess with that. Am I see as Ecstasy siphon.
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  Speaker 2: That's never a car that you want to go ahead
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  Speaker 2: and see is your first card on see Infinity Strop
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  Speaker 2: all hands on deck, the Bomber rang and then it
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  Speaker 2: gets real bad from their shadow of Disk like I
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: just don't have C, so play to your outs like
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: that's that's what you have to do. Unfortunately, in game one,
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  Speaker 2: I had Amber push, I was there. I think that
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  Speaker 2: Astront's deck actually came a little bit slow. Thing from
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  Speaker 2: the deep. Game one was close. I ended up getting
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: key cheated and spooky Spooky Charge was there at the end,
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  Speaker 2: so it went fast. It was close, but uh, spooky
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  Speaker 2: Charge went ahead and took game one. Game two, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: thank you Sheep. Sheep when ahead and rode in. See
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  Speaker 2: all in our comments. Thank you because I could have
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  Speaker 2: used a little bit of C. So I'm going out
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  Speaker 2: of cracking up.
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  Speaker 1: We do talk a lot about C well, but I.
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  Speaker 2: Think that going ahead and having some creature control is important.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, people know, I do like my decks that
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: typically are a little bit more utilitarian have creature control.
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  Speaker 2: But if you don't have a board wife at all,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: a beanstalk deck with multiple creatures, there can be brutal
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: till the Earth was till the Earth recklessness. Were both
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: pretty pretty bad for my matchup. But the short answer, yes,
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: I am always looking for max Ki fours time I
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: thought game two. Actually, both of the games probably took
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: less than this conversation to be one hundred percent honesty.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: You can watch them over on the Final Refrain channel.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: But I mean I knew what my line was, and
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: you I just have to stay disciplined in order to
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: go ahead and go through it. I did get into
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: a spot where my junks really did not come up
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: in game one. They were very very late, and Game two,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: I'm pushing. I did get the goal keeping to be
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: able to push off. I had a little I'll be honest,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: I had a y suck a key forge moment and
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: that was my hand was dis and I'm discarding cards.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: But in my hand I have dust Amp two power
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Imp destroyed game two, and I have Serene, which has
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: a discard pip on the Serene and it's enhanced disc
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: but it says scrap deal to to a friendly creature.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: I know scrap. I'm going to discard it and I'm
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: gonna kill my dust Amp. I literally looked at this
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: hand and I'm like, this is what I'm doing. The
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: problem was when I came back to go ahead and
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: go through this, I suckond, I guess because I saw
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: the discard pip and I'm like, I can't play Serene
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: because I can't discard because the two cards that were
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: left in my hand, one was a junk restoration and
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: when the other one was acting to fly, I just can't.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: I can't do that. And so I chose to go
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: ahead and discard my dust Imp and then my Serene.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: The only difference is is that I already knew. All
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: I had to do is play the DISTANMP. Dust Imp
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: isn't sticking around. Serene's gonna blow it up. I'm gonna
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: gain the two amber And if you actually look at
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: the game too, I end up losing as I go
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: for the key cheet because I got key cheated with
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: spooky charge in game one. Game two, I felt one
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Amber short and that was two turns before was the
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: dust Imp that should have been the Serene going into it. So, yeah,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: key Forge happens. But I made a choice. I know it,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: But for some reason, my brain could not override seeing
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: that discard pip that I have to play this card.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I'm not playing it. I'm discarding. I'm scrapping it. So
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: if I'm scrapping it, it's never going to be played,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: and I don't have to worry about that scar pit.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: But that, your friends, is why I go ahead and
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: suck at KeyForge. In all seriousness, though Astrom played super
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: super smooth, it was a line that I had to
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: take that I had a chance. I thought the games
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: were close, but I would have loved to have seen
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: a third game. But I do think that Astron has
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: a very very very good deck. He played it really
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: well and I wish him the best of luck.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: No, you don't, I do that.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Dirty dog took me on a world with the Astro.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: But astron one is someone who is part of our
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: ac group from long ago when we were playing during COVID.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of great.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Huh, where has he been lately? Nowhere to be found.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Running from giant spiders? He is?
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I mean he did, he did come over here for
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: worlds and do very well, and it was great to
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: see him.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: So and he was part of another team, well sleeping
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: an hour that's on another team was part of that
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: team Morgan, So everybody who wasn't us or.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: But I think that people have to think about the
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: decks that they're seeing. What can you recall about their decks?
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: What is their main wind cut? Like that's the short answer.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: What is this deck trying to do? As you sit
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: down at any given ARCID match, we should have a
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: general idea. So what does fraud want to go ahead
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: and do. Fraud's going to be quick, Fraud's going to
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: go ahead and push for Amber.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: No, okay, well not lately.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: But but when you're looking at faith what does fraud
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: not do well? With Fraud has the bounce, it has
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: two damage across the board.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: But it's not going to have your magic board flood.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: And but so when we look at these individual decks,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: every single deck has weaknesses. That's why we love key forge.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: But look for that and see what is your line,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: because most people just it's a ninety ten. No, you
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: have a chance take that to its fullest and lean
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: into it. It's pretty crazy to leave a wide open board,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: but if you can do it and it gets you
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: to your win, then I say it's it's a good strat.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: It did not pay for me, but I thought it
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: was very, very close, and I thought it was still
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: my best bet because if I put creatures out, astronants
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: are going to fight them, and I'm just losing amber
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: and in the long run, I lose out.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I just thought, because I think the only other person
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I've ever seen do that strategy was Nova at Live. Okay,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I want to say it was Nova at Live and
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: it was a real fear of the marketdess.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's real. You you haven't watched enough fraud games,
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: because that's a pretty standard strategy. I run, don't.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Play no creatures yep. I mean, I know you play
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: few creatures, but I don't think I've ever seen that
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: playing no creatures.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, especially Mark of Distass, I played no creatures.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Oh well that's I haven't seen you play many market
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: disc decks and Market Disc is not. Yeah, pops up
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: in my match this week, but it's not been even
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: what's the other one, Control the Week I haven't seen
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: very much of as of late.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I'm sure I'll see a ton more on Alliance when
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Vault tours start popping up, because it's not on the
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: restricted list no more.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: So.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think Control the Week and Alliance will
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: definitely show up more often. But I think Mark of
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Dis is live and I enjoy it. But you really
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: have to think is this creature actually worth is it
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: worth playing? And if not, the answer most of the
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: time should be discarded get rid of it. Most people,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: especially newer players, will just continue to play their creatures
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: out of habit, but it can like if that house
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: you have no answer. With Amber control, you essentially have
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: a way to lock that. You can go ahead and
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: score a key. I just go high and then I
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: hit my in dis, I go above key and then
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: I just mark a diss. You there you go. You
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: can't do anything to stop it. So think about those
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: choices ahead of time, and go ahead and make the decision.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: I will say in game number two, I did not
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: want to go ahead and go with veil and slime
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: for the capture, but I needed to in order to
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: keep myself alive. And sometimes that's the other piece, is
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: make a decision on what to go ahead and actually use.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: I will say that my goalkeeping I used one time
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: to go ahead and pull back the junk restoration at
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: the end because I'm pushing to try and full instead
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: of a reap, I'm trying to dig deeper to see
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: what more I can get through on that deck. So
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: just know your cards, know your outs, and lean into that.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: It's an important piece of the game.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Either you guys watched my game or was I the
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: only one that watched it because I was there?
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: No, so I actually watched like midnight or something, silly.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: I played it nine thirty Central Standard time.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so so, Wookie, I actually watched the first game,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: and I think that was the real trick is that
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: as soon as I left after your rebel was buried
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: literally in the bottom two cards if I'm correct, yep,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: like that. It just offered so many options and I'm waiting.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: You called Mars and you didn't have it.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: That's part.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: That's part of the game. And as soon as I
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: went to bed.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: I made a mock and roll two games. I made
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: a massive mistake. I think what was a second or
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: third turn. I ain't gonna lie to nobody. I was exhausted.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I've I had inventory this week at work, so I
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: was I was doing a whole bunch of stuff. It
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: was late. I came home and I was like, you
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna take a little nap before my game.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: My daughter actually woke me up fifteen minutes beforehand, and
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: it was like, don't you have a game to play?
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh shit, I do. So I like
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: russell all the stuff together, you know, and I'm like,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: all right, I got play this game.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Okame.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Wait and I'm sitting there and I believe he hits
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: the halifast if I'm not mistaken, And then I wins
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: of Death and I'm like, wait a minute, don't I
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: get to choose ordered? And then it just I was like,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, Winds of Death doesn't work like that, and
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: it took me about fifteen minutes to like come to
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: that realization. By midway point in that game, I had
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: actually kind of woken up and was ready to rock
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: and roll. So that's my why I suck at key
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Forge moments. I totally dumped game one because of that
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Winds of Death. I'm one hundred percent positive of it.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: It was just a dumb move on my part, and
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, that's correct, that's the ruling.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Most of my mistakes come from me being tired. But
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: that was my mistake, and I think it was like
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: turn two or turn three. It was something like that.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Somebody will tell me what it was. But after that,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I didn't have the second rebel. I'm like,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: ah shit, this sucks, and I'm like, man, I can
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: get them exactly to where I want, but he'll still forge.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Then we went to game two. Game two, what was
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: it was? It was it one key to two. I
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: don't even remember trying to get the three keys. Yeah,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: I know, let's see. Game two got three keys to one.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, you and I on our tests had very
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: much come to the conclusion that the board was going
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: to be super duper duper duper duper important. So I
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: needed to protect my my Plan ten, my Fiery Jark,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: and my well when's the death we'd kind of talked about.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: It was kind of dicey whether whether I wanted to
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: play that or not. But the Grim Reaper we knew
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: was going to be a big one, so sure, but
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: I think I think.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: I think that comment though, knowing that you cannot consistently
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: play your wins of Death, here's when to play it.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Like everyone said, oh yeah, just wins of Death, it's
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: so good. You have to be aware that it is
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: not always always good to be able to play like frankly,
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: if your opponent, like these are all very very very
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: solid decks that you're seeing in the final Refrain, so
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: to go ahead and have a opponent where they just
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: have a monster section of creatures that they're going to
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: put back, especially some of this Mars that I'm seeing
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: from gr where it can go ahead and Doctor Rebel, no,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: I think that it's a real liability and you should
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: not be playing that. So these as a player, you
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: want to think through is this actually viable in this matchup?
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Can I can I play this? Or am I making
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: a choice to play the card to save my keyster
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: right now, but basically I'm going to lose the game
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: long term.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean at one point I had to play
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: it to get rid of a Brio. Yes, so at
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: one point I'm like, oh, I have wins of death.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: I don't want to wins of death. Actually that at
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: that point I didn't want and it wins death. But
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: with Brio on board, that meant I got to kill
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: something and.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: It hits one.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think he. I think he hit
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: the Brio and squeaky dog guy that makes a makes
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: a token creature. And I was like, oh, I have
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: exactly three cards in my in my hand right now
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: to where I don't want to be. I'll just play
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: them and then I'll get rid of the whole the
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: whole board, and then he'll have to figure out a
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: way to get Brio back. So and then I don't remember.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: I know one game I play on ten the Brio
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: and then just new to hold on to my Grim
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Reaper until because Grim Reaper I think was in the
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: archives or I had a way to scoop him up
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: or something like that, and I'm like, I just need
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: to hold onto this grim Reaper until the Brio comes down,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: and then I'll just play him re purge them, and
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: then Brio is no longer a factor. So a lot
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: of the things I was scared about, I was scared about.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: The Hella Fast definitely terrified me. We saw what a
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: turn one Halifast did in some of your eye testings
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: and it didn't go well. And then the Bri. The
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Brio never came up in our testing to be anything huge,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: but he definitely hit Brio a couple of times. But
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: I at least had the answer each time, again knowing
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: I had to hold you know, I needed to definitely
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: keep keep tabs on on my Plan ten, my Fiery
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Jark and and my Grim Reaper, Like those are the
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: three cards. I knew I had to like keep tabs
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: on MH just because like those are my three outs
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: against Brio. So, I mean, there was one time where
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: I think I took Fiery Jark and Plan ten just
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: to be safe, right, Like it was, it was like
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: just in case it gives me options when that Brio hits,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: and I think, yeah, I think sure enough. At one
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: point Brio hit and I just hit the Plan ten
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, all right, going to go about the
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: slow and at least I know when Brio's coming, because
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: he'll take the Brio when he wants to go into
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: that house, and I think that's when I hit him
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: with the Reaper. I honestly can't. I don't remember a
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: lot of those games. Some of you guys maybe watched it,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: and I don't remember a ton about it, but that
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: that Wins of Death in game one, I was like
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: super confused, but I was also super not awake at
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: that point in time.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: So talk to me. Talk to me on that front.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: With online play, you can actually be sick and then
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: still behind your computer. You can also be really tired.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: I mean we hope that doesn't happen when you're over
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: at the vault, that you are sick and still there.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Please don't be sick.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Just I've never been a vault, but I've been super
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: tired at a vault.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. I think I'm
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: we're pretty sure that you've fallen asleep at a vault
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: while playing.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: But anyway, I'll playing, but in between realms, sure I'll
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: get a little snoozey in.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: We're still I'm pretty sure that you had fallen asleep
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: when we were doing our cast with all the other.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: You can continue to say that, but that's not true.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, But anyway, I think this is important. How does
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: that impact your ability to play.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: If you're sick or.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: If you are tired? Do you do you see a
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: difference in cheap? Do you see a difference in Pepe?
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Do you see difference?
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: Well? Nothing like a little hangover to quiet the mind,
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: I think is what I assume you guys have been doing.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: Consult time.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: This is why we love you.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: We go to key Let's not pretend like we go
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: to key fordge Vault Tours to actually play key Forge.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: We're there to escape our families and drink heavily. Maybe not,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: maybe not. EWK might be there to play KeyForge, but
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: I'm actually there to.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Play key Forge and go ahead and hang out with
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: our keyboard family and have some great times. I actually
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: like my family, So yes, that's not me.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Don't speak for me, man, I'm not saying I don't
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: like my family, but I do like you know. What
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: do they say Absence makes the heart grow fonder? That's right,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: A little absence never hurt no body.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: This isn't absence. It's being absent.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I don't understand absence. Yes, you're being absent.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Now you I got your joky walk. It's okay, thank you,
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: thank you.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: I will slowly back up.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, anyways, yeah, I enjoy my time at
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: the Vault tours, so we all, I think we all do.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: And we've got one coming up. When's our first Vault
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: tour coming up? Don't only answer it once? Rochester, I
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: believe Yeah, anybody going from here? I think the only
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: one going from here is Drascore? Right? Am I wrong
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: in that one? Oh?
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: I think you got it?
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Are you going? You're not going? Oh, millennium game.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: I don't have vacation to go to Mosta's ship this year.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: You want some of my donation? You want some of
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: my vacation?
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: I sure do.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: I got I got like I'm I'm peeking at about
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: three hundred hours here. They're about to take someone away
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: from you if I don't start taking it, which is BS,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: because they don't pay me out for it either, which
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: is also BS. Cheap absence. I didn't say absence. I
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: said absence.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: I know, and I played off that. Anyway, we're bringing
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: you back in cheap have you ever got ahead and
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: played key Forge while not there? What was the impact
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: for you?
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, you just make a bunch of bad plays,
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: that's fine.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: But I think that's important is that when you're playing
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: in a vault or in this final refrain where you
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: have the best of the best, well, you can see
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: a difference between game one and game two, and it
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: just comes down to having a glitch for one moment
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: can go ahead and have an impact on the whole
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: entire game.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: And that's why are you Dad momenting me right now?
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: This? You won. It doesn't matter, man. You won, so
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: you're perfectly fine. But I think that for all the players,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: you played to the best of your ability. But you
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: also can't be that hard if it's passed and you
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: made a mistake. I'm pretty sure you heard all three
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: of us here say that we all made a mistake
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: within the last week on our games that were played.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: It's just can you minimize those mistakes? Can you not
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: go into tilt when that happens, When you realize, oh goodness,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: I just should have played the dust gamp and then
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: blown it up like I had planned. But it happens,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: you're going to have to move on and not let
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: it impact you the rest of your day, the rest
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: of the game, and see what that impact is on
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: the game. But with these top decks, top players, play
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: to the best of your ability, but know that being
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: sick is it does have an impact going ahead, and
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: being tired has an impact.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: I know that I get.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Harassed from this group, but I realize that when I'm tired,
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: I slow down and they don't like that at all.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: I took second hungover, Saul. I'm just saying, so.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Think what you could actually do if you were sober
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: and focused.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: This guy I'm playing because I'm playing.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Because she does yeah, yeah, he.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Messes up his turn, plays an armfuler asks for manual mode.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: Chinese guy.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: We don't stereotype, sheep.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: It's a Chinese guy because he doesn't speak any English.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: If you're not making this any better, okay.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: It matters because he clicks manual mode and I go whatever,
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: puts it back in his hand, clicks off manual mode,
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: like okay, I think, clicks manual mode again. I'm like,
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on. I click okay, and
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: then sits there for a while and then uh, you know,
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: Chinese characters come up on screen. I'm like mm hmm.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: And that's how he knew he was getting there. He just.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Then he just drags and drops the Eureka in the
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: discard right, and then gives himself three amber and moves
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: two cards to his archive and then goes back to
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: playing logos cards. That's like the best Eureka ever. I'll
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: choose to archive these cards.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: You're saying you suspect he's sick. That's how that ties together.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: I think, yes, perhaps he is on off hours and
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: it's not quite awake, so it made a mistake.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's you never know.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: If you want to do well at your store, Champ says,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: we still have a few you that are wrapping up.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: If you want to do well at the vaults that
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: are soon approaching.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: It's eleven o'clock am.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: You can go make what choices of staying up all
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: night and having a wonderful time.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Well, you have to decide what the Vault tour is
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: for you, right, like the Vault Tour is different thing
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: like for you, it's maximum key Forge time well play.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: Sleeping does result in playing better. Being well rested, you
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: are going to play much better Key forge than when
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: you come in on our hungover zombie states you just
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: can't go ahead, And does that your result in a
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: funner weekend? Well, that's up to the individual.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: I think I can build a bridge here. You know,
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: being in an altered state of mind, whether that's self
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: induced or just happenstance of illness, you maybe can tap
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: into the heart of the cards, which can.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Be wrong game is well.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: It's just a general we tap into the heart of
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: the forest.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: There you go, there you go. So anyways, that could
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: be tremendously helpful if you're playing with the deck that
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: you're not super familiar with because somebody else let you
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: use it.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Oh keach suggestion is borrow deck, get ripped, play hungover.
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: I think of unlocked the arts corner secret.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: We need you come full circle. You get it, you
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: totally get it. You're here. I'm cool.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Get you. We'll get you on the borrow deck list
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: and a bottle of Alart.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Yep. So what we're gonna do for Roosevelt is we're
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: going to need to give you fraud and a bottle
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: of Alert.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: I that's a fair I don't want anything to do
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: with Alort. But if it comes with a fraud.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: See, oh that could be a new Patreon thing, guys, Like,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: if you drink this whole bottle of alort, you get
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: to fraud. No, no, no, why not?
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: I might go for this, Okay, as someone who has
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: unfortunately made poor decisions and drink almost a full bottle
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: of liquor. Please don't do.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: That, mylord's really hard.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: It's like drinking snaps.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would saying Malart's really weak, Like that's my idea.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Milart's only like, what is more like thirty five percent,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: So it's not even like really alcohol. It's just mostly
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: really alcohol. Yes, well to us Wisconsin AND's Wisconsin, it's
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: it's not really Oh that's like a beer and wookie.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: I unfortunately made the same choice when I said, oh,
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: the CARDI lamone is not that strong, Let me go
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: ahead and take three fourths of this.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: But you're an idiot.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Clear, I have gotten wiser as I've gotten older, sheep.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: I'm simply saying that this is not a good choice
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: for your liver, for your health, and for your sanity.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean to be fair, you guys. I mean
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: I think I think a lot of our listeners have
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: the wrong idea. I'm not getting ripped every day. It's
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: just a couple of times a year during vault tours. Right, So, like,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: I don't think my liver's crying out at me. The
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: twice a year that I decided to get sloppy with.
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: Its How big of a problem could it be?
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't go to many vault tours, so I
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: go to like I go to rose I go to
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Roseville one vault. Yes, I went to Well last year
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: I went to Rooseville, and I went to gen Con
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: for Nationals and then I went to Yeah, I went
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: to I went to Worlds and that was it. That's
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: all I did. And I didn't even get that sloppy
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: at gen Con. Towards the end, I did, but not
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: you know, it was it wasn't like the craziness that
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: was KFC. KFC was.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, Ghostbuster grow would say something different.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Maybe she would, maybe she wouldn't, but we'll never know. So, uh,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: you know, KFC was kind of crazy. I don't know
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: if I'll go to that extent at Roseville. But you know,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: I figured here here was my thought process and all
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: of that, right, you all know, and the whole world
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: and our entire listening off audience knows that the Wookie
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: is a snorer, right, Oh my goodness, that.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Chainsaw understatement of the year.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: I thought about putting Captain Buzzsaw on the back of
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: my jersey this year. However, if I let you guys
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: go to sleep, I could just get rip, roar and
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: drunk and then just pass out right and you guys
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: would already be asleep. This is this is a this
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: is legitimately a a A. It's a decent tactic, I approve,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: I am. I am putting in place that I can
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: help my key Forge friends be well rested for the
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Vault tour.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: Nope, I just it's gonna work when we're in a
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: room that doesn't have extra doors.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: I didn't, I did. I even how many times did
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: I come back to the hotel room last year.
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: For the.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: I don't mind getting lost. You know, I find my
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: way eventually, not not to the room. Well, you know,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: I find my way and then you shower with dras corps.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: It's not a big deal, right.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: Whoa drass is not here to defend himself.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Well, actually it wasn't drascrs. It was actually uh casey,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, this is not getting he's not here either,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: but it's you know, it.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Is what Drascour is on work assignments and work conference.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: We miss you, buddy.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's like two weeks in rows up in here.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: I think he was on vacation last week, actually.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: But I think that I think the new drink that
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: we have, let's see if I actually know.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: I didn't.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, what's for Netty? I know what?
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know? You can talk to Dev about that.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: Dev Dev is the for net.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Guy guy, because I don't know what it is.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: I do you have anything else intelligent to talk about?
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: This is very intelligent, don't you? Don't you dog this
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: drink because the fireball and the let's see, we got fireball.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: I forgot the other one was a Rumpelman's that's whatever.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: And then there's for net don't know what that is
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: in Malortnett is.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: An Italian type of amo.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's not too bad. So we could probably make
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: these and see how bad they are.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: I will say that we enjoy our time. And whether
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: you are going ahead and are taking in some after
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: hours activity or you are saving your energy for key forge,
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: there's a lot to do and it's a great time
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: to hang out. Our community really is the best community
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: in gaming. So come check out a store championship around
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: you if you have not already done so that.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: A Vault tour. To a Vault tour. We always have fun,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: whether you're winning or losing. There's something to do at
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: the end of all of it. And I don't think
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: we've ever turned anybody away. We might turn Dexter away,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: but that's about it. No, Nah, we love our group,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: but nobody gets turned away. We all have fun. We
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: all we all, you know, and then we have skulls
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: to play like. We always do fun stuff at the
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: end of every night. It's never all about key Forge.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: It's never completely boring. We always have a good time,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: right and everybody is always invited, and we have a
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: good we have We have a good time. So go
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: to a Vault tour. We watch the final refrain. I
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: will be getting my ass kicked probably this week.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: Lookie, you're our only hope.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: I know, oh Man, Star Wars reference and all.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I know, and that's that's that's sad that you left.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: Your only hope would be I don't know what you
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: two were thinking. Draft score is not even playing. It's
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: kind of I'm kind of weirded out that draft.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: Calls he's playing, he's playing through you.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: Oh is that how it's going? Got it? Yea, it
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: makes more sense.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: But congrats to everyone who won first week. There's even
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: if you've not followed along, there's some people who've already
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: made it into round three. So congrats to all of
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: the people who continue to win. But it's it's great.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: And if you're not watching, go check out the games.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: There's some top level keyboards community US. It is not us,
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: but that's okay.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: My game will I don't know if I'll have this
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: up by the time. Maybe I will, maybe I won't.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: It's only ten o'clock. I can do some things. My
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: game will be nine.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Well, I think we got it right now eight thirty
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Central Standard time, if I'm able to get home that quickly.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: So we will see. That'll be Saturday. SAD should be streamed.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know who's streaming it, but we'll find out
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: quick episode this week under an hour crazy. I don't
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: think we've been under an hour in a long time.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: He's out you keeping it that way all right? With
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: that being said that, we will see all.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Next week, May the Forge be with you.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: You gotta do Drascores.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: Line he Discoveryboddy.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's it, but we're gonna go with it.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Bye bye. Each card holds a different kete.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: It's what these masters help me see in this corner,
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: serve sign and face the reality shifts. It sace.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Down at the corner where the co sell very well,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: the stories and wisdom more than I can sell, more
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: action self rusting the power of the car, they seal
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: down at the Carno, where the archon swell