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Do you see a Hawk or a Hawkeye? · Profits & Politics

0:17
SPEAKER_02: Good morning, folks.
0:18
SPEAKER_02: Welcome to the Morning Call Show.
0:19
SPEAKER_02: I'm Bob Sellers here with Jerry Berg, a couple of news vets who take a look at what's right and wrong in between the right and left.
0:26
SPEAKER_02: And I'd like to start off, Jerry, by asking you where you were March 3rd of 2024.
0:34
SPEAKER_01: I was I was at a um an Iowa game.
0:38
SPEAKER_01: Iowa.
0:40
SPEAKER_02: That could have saved a lot of trouble.
0:42
SPEAKER_02: Oh no, sir, I think you're mistaking that for the the Atlanta.
0:45
SPEAKER_01: I mean that went on.
0:46
SPEAKER_02: And Jack Smith is like, you know, maybe he looked like an idiot.
0:53
SPEAKER_02: I mean, he I mean, especially what did he say to him?
0:57
SPEAKER_02: Um that um he really insulted him saying you're a total dirtbag.
1:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:06
SPEAKER_02: I mean, come on.
1:08
SPEAKER_02: I mean, and that's what annoys me, Jerry, about people playing for an audience of one.
1:14
SPEAKER_02: He knew that Trump would love that, right?
1:18
SPEAKER_02: But these people are supposed to represent at least your state, whereas he's from Missouri, and if not all Americans in some fashion.
1:28
SPEAKER_02: Uh, and then he put up, just so people know, okay, there's a senator from Missouri, and he accused Jack Smith, the former special counsel, who had investigated Trump for illegal activity, which he does claim that Trump committed, but he was forced to drop them when Trump was elected.
1:46
SPEAKER_02: And so there were these allegations that from Schmidt that uh Jack Smith was in Atlanta, and it's awfully curious that uh he was there the day after Fonnie Willis uh announced that she had an affair with someone she was working with.
2:04
SPEAKER_02: And to confirm that he was saying, Were you at the Atlanta Hawks game?
2:09
SPEAKER_02: Well, come to find out, he was at a different game on that.
2:14
SPEAKER_01: It wasn't the Hawks, it was the Hawk Eyes.
2:16
SPEAKER_02: The Hawk Eyes, the Iowa Hawk Eyes, and um Caitlin Clark uh watching her play against Maryland.
2:24
SPEAKER_02: So that was ugly.
2:27
SPEAKER_01: I know it's democracy at work, you know.
2:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:33
SPEAKER_01: But uh we have some we have some sober breaking news this morning.
2:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, go ahead.
2:40
SPEAKER_01: This uh headline a pilot on board a fly Dubai airliner attacked um his co-pilot and tried to hijack the flight, which was on its way to Tel Aviv in Israel.
2:55
SPEAKER_01: Passengers have said they believe the pilot was attempting to crash the fly Dubai flight from Dubai to Tel Aviv today after allegedly stabbing his own co-pilot while they were in the air.
3:07
SPEAKER_01: So it's and I'm just watching the latest breaking coverage.
3:12
SPEAKER_01: They're now not using the word terror, even though the the passenger said it sure did look like he was trying to crash the plane.
3:21
SPEAKER_01: They're saying that he may have just had a beef with his partner and they just had an argument in a cockpit, which led to violence.
3:28
SPEAKER_01: Like, how often does that happen?
3:31
SPEAKER_02: I would think virtually never.
3:34
SPEAKER_02: I mean, never.
3:35
SPEAKER_02: I I would think that part of being a pilot, and I have some friends who are pilots, um, that you're you're staying above that personal thing affecting the lives of the passengers, right?
3:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:47
SPEAKER_02: And and plus, why would you have a knife?
3:50
SPEAKER_02: I guess maybe their rules are different over there.
3:52
SPEAKER_02: Um then who exactly landed the plane when I saw early reports of this, I wasn't.
3:59
SPEAKER_01: Well, lucky for them, there was another pair of pilots sitting in uh with the passengers, and they immediately rushed up with some other passengers and took control of the cockpit.
4:11
SPEAKER_02: I was sitting uh on the on a plane one time, and a guy next to me was uh a commercial pilot who was going somewhere else.
4:19
SPEAKER_02: You know, it's like, yeah, I got a flight out of Chicago, so I'm taking this flight to get there.
4:23
SPEAKER_02: And he and I chatted for a while, so it is believable to me that there could be pilots on there.
4:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
4:30
SPEAKER_01: And uh they're not they're not using the word terror yet, but Netanyahu was um, it said he was been giving press conferences all afternoon.
4:40
SPEAKER_01: Uh Israel closed its airspace and scrambled warplanes over fears the jet had been hijacked, as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu convened an emergency security meeting.
4:51
SPEAKER_01: There, you know, those passengers are lucky that Israel just didn't shoot that plane out of the sky.
4:56
SPEAKER_01: Well they're not gonna let it they're not gonna let another 9-11 happen.
5:00
SPEAKER_02: That's a good point, or October 7th.
5:03
SPEAKER_01: So October 7th.
5:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think you're right.
5:06
SPEAKER_02: So this is one of those things where you and I would say that sounds like terrorism, and I guess they'll flesh it out.
5:12
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, that's a harrowing experience.
5:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and more news from the region.
5:18
SPEAKER_01: This may come as a surprise, it was to me.
5:21
SPEAKER_01: The U.S.
5:22
SPEAKER_01: military says it has finally finished the withdrawal of all of our troops from Iraq after what 26 years?
5:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
5:32
SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
5:32
SPEAKER_01: I thought we were I thought we were long gone out of there.
5:36
SPEAKER_02: You know, there are a lot of things that happen in the military that they don't tell us, and I don't want them to tell us because I don't want them to make everything public.
5:44
SPEAKER_02: I don't need to know where all of them are.
5:46
SPEAKER_02: You know, I mean, as a journalist, I might want to push further and find out, but uh, I think we should have a presence in a lot of places in this world, and it doesn't necessarily need to be known to China and Russia and some of our enemies.
6:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
6:03
SPEAKER_01: Um the uh and staying in Europe, uh the one of the suspects, remember that they were planning an attack uh against an airbase in England?
6:14
SPEAKER_01: And uh well, the one of the suspects out of the five, he actually he actually had called 911 an hour before they they moved towards the airbase.
6:26
SPEAKER_01: Um it's not immediately clear what he told the dispatcher and whether or not he called because he got cold feet or whether it was part of a a bigger twisted plan to lure cops there.
6:39
SPEAKER_02: Well, you know, that's one of the things they do, right?
6:41
SPEAKER_02: I mean, in the Middle East, sometimes you'll have the initial explosion of something, and then all the first responders get there, and then there's a second explosion to kill them.
6:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
6:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
6:53
SPEAKER_02: Uh so I don't know.
6:55
SPEAKER_02: That could be a tactic.
6:57
SPEAKER_02: Uh, but I don't know why somebody would call 911, especially since it's trackable.
7:02
SPEAKER_01: And also, the the headline yesterday that I kept thinking about, they they said that the the attack was busted by a nosy neighbor who saw the men milling around and called 911.
7:16
SPEAKER_01: And I thought to myself, nosy?
7:18
SPEAKER_01: Uh aren't they vigilant and alert?
7:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, this is not exactly a Karen saying, What are you boys doing here?
7:26
SPEAKER_02: You know, yes.
7:27
SPEAKER_02: It's somebody noticing there are five suspicious guys that maybe we should keep an eye on.
7:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
7:36
SPEAKER_01: That's great.
7:37
SPEAKER_01: Um, so JD Vance's possible running mate?
7:41
SPEAKER_01: Marco Rubio?
7:43
SPEAKER_01: No.
7:44
SPEAKER_01: Uh Missouri, Missouri Senator Eric Schmidt has been building a close relationship with Vance and is considered a top candidate for the ticket.
7:54
SPEAKER_02: But that's why yesterday it was clear he was playing to an audience of one, and that one may have been JD Vance.
8:01
SPEAKER_02: Right.
8:01
SPEAKER_02: But it was clear he blew it and he didn't handle it well afterward because there are people that asked him what happened there.
8:08
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I will say this whoever gave him that idea, whoever gave him on his team, like these guys are uh men and women, they're very busy, right?
8:20
SPEAKER_02: So they have staff and they can come out.
8:23
SPEAKER_02: You know what?
8:24
SPEAKER_02: We have this information.
8:25
SPEAKER_02: Right.
8:26
SPEAKER_02: Oh, really?
8:26
SPEAKER_02: Tell me about that.
8:28
SPEAKER_02: Well, he was in Atlanta watching the Hawks.
8:31
SPEAKER_02: We've got emails saying he's got tickets, and and it's like somebody delivered that to him.
8:37
SPEAKER_02: He went with it, okay?
8:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's he's responsible for it, but somebody gave him that info.
8:44
SPEAKER_01: And don't you love the way the Jack Smith just let him twist in the wind?
8:49
SPEAKER_01: You know, he knew he had him.
8:52
SPEAKER_02: Seems like a very cagey guy.
8:55
SPEAKER_02: And I'm not sure at first he knew what he was talking about, and then maybe he did.
9:00
SPEAKER_02: Um but Clobashar, she came out and made it clear.
9:05
SPEAKER_02: You mistook Hawks for Hawkeyes.
9:07
SPEAKER_02: Maybe you should do before you call somebody a dirtbag and say they're lying, maybe you should get your facts straight.
9:14
SPEAKER_01: What do you think?
9:15
SPEAKER_01: What do you think JD Vance made of that performance?
9:18
SPEAKER_01: Do you think it torpedoed his chances?
9:20
SPEAKER_02: Gary, in a normal world in the world you and I grew up with, that would be um that would eliminate him, right?
9:28
SPEAKER_02: In this day and age, people get, you know, shoot your puppy dead.
9:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, let's get her on the staff.
9:36
SPEAKER_02: I mean, this is not a normal world.
9:39
SPEAKER_02: And I don't think it's a healthy one, by the way.
9:42
SPEAKER_02: I would like to think the country is above some of this, and uh maybe we're not, but to answer your question, I don't think it helped him, but I don't know if it's a a a deal killer because this this crew does not think like I'm used to politicians thinking.
10:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
10:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they'll just it's a speed bump and it'll be forgotten about in a week.
10:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they'll just say, well, he is a liar anyway.
10:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he was after the president.
10:09
SPEAKER_02: And you know, you went after him and you showed him, and that may not matter, but I thought it was an embarrassing moment if he doesn't see that.
10:17
SPEAKER_01: Right.
10:18
SPEAKER_01: I wonder I wanted to ask you what you thought of the big uh convention yesterday of all the tech uh gurus meeting with Trump and creating an AI, what Trump is calling a constitution, in order to develop AI carefully and strategically.
10:35
SPEAKER_01: Do you think it'll work?
10:38
SPEAKER_02: I think it's irrelevant.
10:39
SPEAKER_02: I think they're doing whatever they want.
10:41
SPEAKER_02: Trump wants to make money off this.
10:42
SPEAKER_02: I don't know exactly how, but he'll make millions or billions, or his family will.
10:47
SPEAKER_02: He doesn't want to limit it in any way.
10:49
SPEAKER_02: And at the very least, he wants data centers to pop up.
10:52
SPEAKER_02: I think he's gonna make money off that.
10:54
SPEAKER_02: This is somebody who is willing to take taxpayer money and pay for ads.
11:00
SPEAKER_02: I guarantee you, he's willing to say, yeah, let him go.
11:04
SPEAKER_02: He doesn't care.
11:05
SPEAKER_02: I think I can't prove it yet or how, but I suspect he sees dollar signs down the road, and that's why he doesn't want to stand in the way.
11:15
SPEAKER_02: Now I have a different theory on this, also, Jerry.
11:18
SPEAKER_02: I am very suspicious of the AI guys that are saying, we need to be careful that we're gonna kill ourselves.
11:24
SPEAKER_02: I'm very suspicious because these are the same people in charge of developing AI.
11:30
SPEAKER_02: So they would go public with their companies and make billions of dollars.
11:35
SPEAKER_02: Why would they stand in the way of that unless something wasn't measuring up to all the money that's being put in it?
11:44
SPEAKER_02: So you need something to slow it down, artificially, no pun intended, so that you can say, well, we're still developing it, we're just not there yet on delivering to that billions of dollars on the bottom line.
11:57
SPEAKER_02: So I'm very suspicious of all of these people that are saying, be careful.
12:02
SPEAKER_02: Um, there are other countries that are putting in place certain steps that should be taken.
12:08
SPEAKER_02: You mean to tell me these guys can't figure out how to order AI to, when it sees a certain something, to report it to management or to give a red flag.
12:19
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it just doesn't sound credible to me.
12:22
SPEAKER_02: So Trump's idea is we're gonna, they're gonna, they're gonna um uh uh self-police, and that really went well with the tobacco industry.
12:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right, and many others too.
12:36
SPEAKER_01: But you know what what what concerns me is that they're they're trying to teach the AI how to think for itself without anything.
12:46
SPEAKER_02: But generative uh AI is, is they yeah, and it's kind of un unstoppable in a sense.
12:54
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's uh inevitable, right?
12:58
SPEAKER_02: You give something more and more intelligence, and then eventually it's gonna start thinking things that you're not.
13:06
SPEAKER_02: I mean, right now, Jerry, we use it to find stuff that you and I it would take hours to find.
13:11
SPEAKER_02: And it'll go out, and it may be wrong, but it finds it quickly and saves us a lot of time.
13:20
SPEAKER_02: Um, so it's I think inevitable that it's gonna start doing things that we're not anticipating.
13:26
SPEAKER_01: There there but there's talk, there was talk yesterday of building in like breaks or stops or checks, you know, to but just like yeah, that's what they're saying.
13:37
SPEAKER_02: I I you know is that gonna happen?
13:40
SPEAKER_02: Maybe the idea that Trump is gonna have any role at all in slowing this down is just farcical to me.
13:48
SPEAKER_02: Farcical or farcipal, whatever.
13:50
SPEAKER_02: And and so it is gonna, we are gonna have to rely on people like Elon Musk, really?
13:57
SPEAKER_02: Um, and and one of the companies is not going public, which is very suspicious to me, and another is going public to make some money off this.
14:06
SPEAKER_02: I just find the whole thing a little all these smart, really rich guys are up there, and they're developing, they're controlling our future, right?
14:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I don't think they care that much.
14:21
SPEAKER_01: Uh well, I think it's it's definitely a major concern for people.
14:26
SPEAKER_01: I didn't think it would rise to that level.
14:28
SPEAKER_01: I thought the economy was top of mind or price of oil.
14:32
SPEAKER_01: But this new new poll from CNN says just under nine out of ten Americans, 88%, are more concerned than excited by the possibility that AI may one day surpass human intelligence.
14:47
SPEAKER_02: Well, that's what I'm concerned about.
14:49
SPEAKER_02: I could say I'm concerned about global warming, but I don't think we're gonna blow up tomorrow.
14:54
SPEAKER_02: Am I concerned that AI is gonna do something?
14:56
SPEAKER_02: Yes, but it's not gonna happen tomorrow.
14:58
SPEAKER_02: Like that's one thing I've said is it's not smart enough to kill us tomorrow.
15:01
SPEAKER_02: It gets things wrong all the time.
15:03
SPEAKER_02: In fact, that's what worries me more than anything else, is that it gets things wrong.
15:07
SPEAKER_02: So are people worried about it?
15:09
SPEAKER_02: I think if you actually do a good poll, which some of these networks are not capable of, a good poll would show that yes, nine out of ten people are concerned about it, but let's step back and say, what are your concerns as you head to the voting booth?
15:26
SPEAKER_02: And they're gonna say, Well, the price of oil and groceries and all this.
15:29
SPEAKER_02: And by the way, speak the polls, Jerry, take a look at this.
15:33
SPEAKER_02: This was uh from CNN that uh MAGA support for Trump is 99%.
15:43
SPEAKER_02: Now, let me see, thank you.
15:45
SPEAKER_02: Let me see if I understand this.
15:48
SPEAKER_02: If you support Trump, you support Trump.
15:53
SPEAKER_02: This is one of the dumbest polls I've ever seen.
15:57
SPEAKER_02: And I've seen it repeatedly on CNN, by the way.
16:00
SPEAKER_02: I've seen that thing repeatedly, it is so stupid.
16:03
SPEAKER_02: A better question would be this how do you self-identify now politically?
16:09
SPEAKER_02: And do you consider yourself MAGA?
16:13
SPEAKER_02: And then can compare that number to the number four years ago or eight years ago or whatever.
16:20
SPEAKER_01: No, you're right.
16:21
SPEAKER_02: Where is that number?
16:22
SPEAKER_02: Because yes, MAGA's gonna vote for Trump.
16:24
SPEAKER_01: Right.
16:26
SPEAKER_01: They go, I mean, you're absolutely right.
16:28
SPEAKER_01: The question was stupid to begin with.
16:29
SPEAKER_01: Like the question is, do you support Trump?
16:32
SPEAKER_01: And then the next question is, do you like him?
16:34
SPEAKER_02: You know, it's like, what are you doing?
16:36
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
16:36
SPEAKER_02: Right.
16:37
SPEAKER_02: Are you MAGA?
16:38
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
16:38
SPEAKER_02: Do you support Trump?
16:39
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, yeah.
16:42
SPEAKER_01: And I was I was reading about this new website that Trump uh unleashed called America.gov.
16:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
16:48
SPEAKER_01: That that'll probably use AI or S superintelligence, as he calls it.
16:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's used it so far to the point where it says that Trump lost the election in 2020.
16:58
SPEAKER_02: So apparently AI will not lie on behalf of the president's uh false election.
17:06
SPEAKER_01: Uh you may differ with my opinion on that, but that's no, but it's it's you know, it's about time that they drag the government into the 21st century here, you know, because it tells Americans how to replace simple stuff like how to replace your Social Security card, how to register to vote, or find information about how the government actually works.
17:26
SPEAKER_01: It also shares how to change your address, buy a national park pass, compare Medicare plans, and register a business.
17:33
SPEAKER_02: All this stuff now.
17:35
SPEAKER_02: Let me play the skeptic here.
17:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
17:38
SPEAKER_02: I assume that the executive branch has access to all of this information.
17:43
SPEAKER_02: And I haven't been to the site, but I am guessing the first thing you do is put in your social security number.
17:52
SPEAKER_02: And so now you're going to be tracked, and I think it's a way for them to collect information.
18:00
SPEAKER_02: I don't know that.
18:01
SPEAKER_02: I know, Jerry.
18:03
SPEAKER_02: You got me on the day.
18:05
SPEAKER_02: I don't believe anyone.
18:06
SPEAKER_01: I know, I know.
18:06
SPEAKER_01: Well, you're you're paranoid and suspicious.
18:09
SPEAKER_01: You think, well, of course.
18:10
SPEAKER_01: Wait a minute.
18:11
SPEAKER_02: Why do you say that?
18:12
SPEAKER_01: Any all any data can be monetized.
18:15
SPEAKER_01: So what I'm hearing from you is that Trump is sitting there with his his short-fingered.
18:24
SPEAKER_02: Have you seen the Trump meme coin?
18:27
SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
18:28
SPEAKER_01: And the little flash ads will pop up.
18:31
SPEAKER_02: Right.
18:31
SPEAKER_02: And then his uh love me uh ad comes up.
18:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
18:36
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
18:36
SPEAKER_02: I just uh I think being able to go to one spot to answer some of your questions is a good idea.
18:43
SPEAKER_02: Uh I would have to be it would have to be proven to me there's not an ulterior motive because I've seen this uh administration operate and it always seems to have one.
18:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
18:54
SPEAKER_01: Well, I ran through my stories.
18:56
SPEAKER_01: Do you have anything?
18:58
SPEAKER_01: Let me see.
18:59
SPEAKER_02: Um I wanted to show you this.
19:04
SPEAKER_02: Uh this is from John Kennedy.
19:07
SPEAKER_02: Um, I guess.
19:08
SPEAKER_02: I love that.
19:09
SPEAKER_02: Is this in 60s?
19:12
SPEAKER_02: 60?
19:12
SPEAKER_02: Well, obviously early 60s.
19:14
SPEAKER_02: Let's take a look because there are a lot of people that considered him very liberal.
19:20
SPEAKER_01: I think I think this is the opening statement that he made at the first Nixon Kennedy debate.
19:26
SPEAKER_02: Nixon Kennedy, yeah.
19:27
SPEAKER_02: Let's take a look at it.
19:27
SPEAKER_01: He's laying out, he's laying out his vision, a Democrat vision.
19:32
SPEAKER_01: And it doesn't sound like Democrats of today.
19:35
SPEAKER_02: Well, here's part of it.
19:36
SPEAKER_02: I couldn't upload the whole thing, just time's sake.
19:39
SPEAKER_02: Uh take a look at uh a minute or so.
19:42
SPEAKER_00: There are those who say that we want to turn everything over to the government.
19:45
SPEAKER_00: I don't at all.
19:46
SPEAKER_00: I want the individuals to meet their responsibility.
19:50
SPEAKER_00: And I want the states to meet their responsibilities.
19:53
SPEAKER_00: But I think there is also a national responsibility.
19:56
SPEAKER_00: The argument has been used against every piece of social legislation in the last 25 years.
20:02
SPEAKER_00: The people of the United States individually cannot develop the Tennessee Valley.
20:07
SPEAKER_00: Collectively, they could.
20:09
SPEAKER_00: A cotton farmer in Georgia, or a peanut farmer, or a dairy farmer in Wisconsin and Minnesota.
20:15
SPEAKER_00: He cannot protect himself against the forces of supply and demand in the marketplace.
20:20
SPEAKER_00: But working together an effective governmental program, he can do so.
20:24
SPEAKER_00: 17 million Americans who live over 65 on an average social security check of about$78 a month, they're not able to sustain themselves individually, but they can sustain themselves through the social security system.
20:39
SPEAKER_00: I don't believe in big government, but I believe in effective governmental action.
20:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, people don't realize this, especially somebody let's just say under 40.
20:55
SPEAKER_02: I don't know that we're teaching anything about politics of uh the mid-century last year, last century.
21:02
SPEAKER_02: But um he was a liberal Democrat from Massachusetts.
21:08
SPEAKER_02: However, when you actually look at his policies, they would be considered right of center on many accounts, including um including the fact that he cut taxes.
21:21
SPEAKER_02: I think they had reached something like 91%, Jerry.
21:25
SPEAKER_02: I mean, the the upper um end, the marginal tax rate of 91%.
21:30
SPEAKER_02: I think it cut them to around 60, somewhere around there.
21:33
SPEAKER_02: I may be off a little, maybe, but it definitely was cut.
21:37
SPEAKER_02: And he still had a strong defense.
21:39
SPEAKER_02: That was at a time we were still worried about the Soviet Union, including going in Cuba, Cuba, and it did, and it built missile sites, and it led to uh a confrontation.
21:52
SPEAKER_01: You can only imagine if you had a lived and and done another another term, you know, and served until 68.
22:00
SPEAKER_01: You can only imagine where the world would be now.
22:03
SPEAKER_02: Well, what was interesting about him is he really related, even though he was a rich kid from Massachusetts, he somehow connected to those uh coal miners, those those Famas.
22:17
SPEAKER_02: He he connected to a lot of working class people.
22:22
SPEAKER_02: And um well, uh yeah, unfortunately it turned out the way it did.
22:28
SPEAKER_02: And I think uh Reagan would actually be considered more liberal than a lot of people think.
22:36
SPEAKER_02: Uh for one for instance on immigration, I what I appreciated about him, he was in a debate with Bush, Bush Sr.
22:44
SPEAKER_02: And he said, uh, I don't see why immigrants can't come across the border, and while they work here in the United States, pay their taxes, and then when they're done with the job, go back.
22:58
SPEAKER_02: And he's thinking, because he was from California where he was given.
23:02
SPEAKER_02: Right, the migrant Central California, which is the breadbasket of America, not the Midwest, but they have so much Central Valley.
23:11
SPEAKER_02: Central Valley has so much produce that they need immigrant workers.
23:16
SPEAKER_02: And a lot of them migrant workers, temporary, and he's trying to look at a realistic answer instead of oh, they're all evil, they're not sending their best.
23:24
SPEAKER_02: It's like, okay, there's some business people there that actually need somebody to help them, but not year-round.
23:31
SPEAKER_02: So why don't we give them a path to do that and then pay taxes while you're here, and then when you're done, go back home.
23:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
23:39
SPEAKER_01: My brother uh thought Ronald Reagan was the antichrist, the actual, the actual living, breathing antichrist.
23:48
SPEAKER_01: Um uh because of a couple of things.
23:51
SPEAKER_01: This is his rabbit hole that he that he was trying to tell me about, but but this is back in the 80s.
23:56
SPEAKER_01: He said, think about it, Ronald Wilson Reagan, 666.
24:03
SPEAKER_01: And the beast, the beast shall bear a wound that would have killed anybody, any other mortal.
24:10
SPEAKER_01: And you remember he raised his hand, he took a shot right there, and they didn't even know he'd been shot until blood started coming out of his mouth.
24:19
SPEAKER_01: And at the age that he was, the oldest president ever elected at the time, um, he pulled through.
24:25
SPEAKER_01: And he was making jokes in the operating room asking the surgeons, I hope there's no Democrats in here.
24:32
SPEAKER_02: And and the doctor said, uh, today, sir, we are all Republicans.
24:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
24:38
SPEAKER_01: Ain't that amazing?
24:39
SPEAKER_01: You wouldn't find that today.
24:41
SPEAKER_02: You really wouldn't.
24:42
SPEAKER_02: You wonder if somebody would refuse to, like if Trump came in, would somebody say, I'm not gonna wait, uh, take care of it.
24:48
SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
24:49
SPEAKER_02: I would hope not.
24:50
SPEAKER_02: I mean I would hope not.
24:51
SPEAKER_02: I don't want to be that skeptical because he seems to be.
24:54
SPEAKER_01: Jesus, you're in a dark place.
24:55
SPEAKER_01: You're in a you're in a dark place today, Bob.
25:00
SPEAKER_02: Uh can we end it on anything possible?
25:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but and on that note.
25:05
SPEAKER_02: What do you got?
25:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, what do you got?
25:07
SPEAKER_01: Uh remember, breaking news changes everything.
25:09
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
25:10
SPEAKER_02: No, I'll give you something positive.
25:12
SPEAKER_02: Instead of saying okay.
25:43
SPEAKER_01: I'll talk to you later.
25:45
SPEAKER_02: Okay, bye.