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I Wanna Be a Cowboy · Armstrong & Getty One More Thing

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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be a cowboy. It's one more thing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm strong and getty, one more thing. So my kind
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  Speaker 1: my kids are kind of in that age, Joe On.
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  Speaker 1: My oldest son is in the where you like seriously
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  Speaker 1: have to start thinking about what you might want to
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  Speaker 1: do with your life. But my younger son is at
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  Speaker 1: the kind of more fanciful age of what do you
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  Speaker 1: want to be when you grow up? And so we
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  Speaker 1: have these conversations on a regular basis. You know, like
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  Speaker 1: when you're a really little kid, you want to be
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  Speaker 1: a I don't know, astronaut or a cowboy.
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  Speaker 2: Rearranging cattle is honorable work. It is cowboy.
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  Speaker 1: I actually ended up working in a place where I
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  Speaker 1: could have been become a cowboy if that's what I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to do.
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  Speaker 3: The end of a cowboy you wear boots on the beach.
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  Speaker 1: That was the actual job was. I was working at
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  Speaker 1: the feed lot and at some point you take the
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  Speaker 1: do you want to do go the feed truck driver
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  Speaker 1: route or do you want to go the cowboy route?
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  Speaker 1: And I want the feed truck driver rout because I
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't planning on being a cowboys more like a
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  Speaker 1: life profession. That's not something you just do for a year.
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  Speaker 1: That's like you're going to be your life. But uh,
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  Speaker 1: I was going to ask everybody before I give. One
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  Speaker 1: of my youngest son's current plan is, which is kind
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  Speaker 1: of funny for you, what he wants to do his life.
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  Speaker 1: What did you want to be when you grew up, Katie?
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to be a marine biologist.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good one because you saw Seinfeld and that's
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  Speaker 1: what George Costanza said.
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  Speaker 2: He was exactly.
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  Speaker 1: I've always wanted to pretend to be a marine biologist.
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  Speaker 4: I think both of my daughters may have had a
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  Speaker 4: time where they wanted to do that. You see dolphins
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  Speaker 4: and sea turtles and all sorts of endearing creatures, and
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  Speaker 4: you hear their at risk.
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  Speaker 2: You want to do Yeah, it's fine profession.
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  Speaker 1: And what at what point did you decide you didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to be that? Or maybe you don't even remember,
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  Speaker 1: because like some of my stuff, I don't remember ever
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  Speaker 1: making a decision, or it's not like I looked into
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  Speaker 1: it now. It looks to me like according to the
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  Speaker 1: actuary titles, that people die at a young age in
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  Speaker 1: this profession, and he only make this much money, So
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  Speaker 1: I'll turn my gaze so towards something else. That's not
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  Speaker 1: the way it usually works.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, that's not how it happened. I went from
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  Speaker 3: marine biologist to.
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  Speaker 5: Archaeologist, and then another good one ended up in radio.
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  Speaker 1: Ended up in radio.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if that No, that's because what I
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  Speaker 5: ended up actually wanting to do.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, okay, wanting to do that. At what point, at
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  Speaker 1: what point in your life did you decide you wanted
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  Speaker 1: to be on the radio.
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  Speaker 3: Around the time that I was a teenager, so thirteen, okish?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Interesting, fell in love of the morning show. I was
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  Speaker 5: listening to Rush with my dad all the time. Found
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  Speaker 5: out dad did some radio, and here we are.
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  Speaker 1: It's awesome, cool Michael.
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  Speaker 6: I also wanted to be in radio as a little kid,
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  Speaker 6: believe it or not. But I like the technical stuff.
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  Speaker 6: I used to take tinker toys and build tall towers
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  Speaker 6: all the way to the ceiling of the house.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that's interesting. We worked with you for twenty five
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  Speaker 1: years and I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a little kid, but I would play
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  Speaker 6: I remember I'd have a little record player of a
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  Speaker 6: Fisher Price record player and now pretendo was a but
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  Speaker 6: I always Yeah, I ended up wanting to play with
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  Speaker 6: you know, buttons and things like that. So that's kind
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  Speaker 6: of what I'm doing now.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Cool, Yeah, with.
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  Speaker 4: Great skill and a plumb Joe Getty, Uh, fairly standard
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  Speaker 4: American midwestern boy, a cycle of paleontologist, hockey player, baseball player.
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  Speaker 2: Professional musician, lawyer than this dead end job.
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  Speaker 1: Do you see?
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  Speaker 2: You know there was definitely a progression.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember why you changed your mind on various stuff?
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  Speaker 1: Because I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I think running up against reality, honestly realizing I'm not
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  Speaker 4: really good enough for that.
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  Speaker 2: And I have other interests. Now, I think it was
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  Speaker 2: as simple as that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if I go way back to the beginning,
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  Speaker 1: I think it was cowboy.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 1: For a very long time, I wanted to be a harpenter,
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  Speaker 1: and I really liked working with building stuff and all
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  Speaker 1: that sort of things. Still do. But like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: remember it any at any point deciding I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I probably hit my thumb a lot, so maybe I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I just, you know, just stopped being my
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  Speaker 1: interest for whatever reason.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's it. You just develop other interests,
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  Speaker 2: get passion for something else.
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  Speaker 1: I was hardcore. I was going to join the Marines
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  Speaker 1: for most of high school. I mean, this wasn't even
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  Speaker 1: when I was a little kid. I mean, that was
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  Speaker 1: just absolutely my plan to change that. I don't know, huh,
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  Speaker 1: I honestly don't know. It has something to do with
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  Speaker 1: hearing about a radio program. I think I was I
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  Speaker 1: was in I never did any sort of like drama
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  Speaker 1: musical stuff until my senior year of high school. And
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  Speaker 1: I did that and I got kind of sucked into
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  Speaker 1: that world of performing entertaining the adulation that comes with it.
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  Speaker 1: And then I heard about a radio program at a
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  Speaker 1: nearby community college where practically everybody who went there found
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  Speaker 1: a full time job in radio. At least that was
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  Speaker 1: the stat at the time, which is amazing now. It
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  Speaker 1: was true then but impossible now there's not three full
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  Speaker 1: time radio jobs available in the country. But I just thought, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that'd be awesome. I always had listened to I always
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  Speaker 1: liked the idea of being on the radio, and then
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  Speaker 1: I was full speed on that after that. But I
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  Speaker 1: don't remember why I changed my mind, Like you would
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  Speaker 1: think you'd remember that, but I don't.
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  Speaker 4: The Marines thing, yes, unless it's you know, as I said,
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  Speaker 4: you just develop other passions and you kind of get
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  Speaker 4: led away, and.
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  Speaker 1: I've sometimes wondered what my life would have been like
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  Speaker 1: if I had gone that direction. I kind of wish
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  Speaker 1: I would have, just for the challenge of it and
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  Speaker 1: everything that comes with it. But I'm really happy with
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  Speaker 1: the way things turned out in my career this way,
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  Speaker 1: so I wouldn't want to mess with it too much.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, sometime, when Elon gets the right rocket, I
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  Speaker 1: will travel to the parallel universe where I joined the
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  Speaker 1: Marine Corps, see where I ended up. Here's my son's
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  Speaker 1: current plan. He wants to double up on his school work.
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  Speaker 1: Currently he does a combination of homeschool and independent study.
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  Speaker 1: He's not in a traditional school setting, he is. He
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  Speaker 1: wants to double up on his school work. He wants
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  Speaker 1: to pass the GED at sixteen so he'll have his
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  Speaker 1: high school education. Then he wants to spend two years
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  Speaker 1: getting jacked.
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  Speaker 2: And then wow, there was a twist there. Did not
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  Speaker 2: see that coming?
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  Speaker 3: Did not That was not on my Bengo card.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean either.
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  Speaker 1: It made me laugh out loud, just like this yesterday
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  Speaker 1: when he told me this is my plan. Now, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna double up my studying so I can get my
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  Speaker 1: GED at sixteen, then I'm gonna spend two years getting jacked.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, So now he's educated in Swollen and
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  Speaker 4: then what next?
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  Speaker 1: And then he's going to join the military because he
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  Speaker 1: wants to do like my brother Jeff, who was career military,
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  Speaker 1: because he's seen somebody do the other end of it.
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  Speaker 1: He also is just an odd He's a different sort
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  Speaker 1: of human being in it. He seems to understand like
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  Speaker 1: Time Orrie as a kid, the way that you only
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  Speaker 1: usually do as an adult. But to him, twenty years
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  Speaker 1: in the military, where you get, you know, the all
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  Speaker 1: the benefits that come with him, he thinks I'd only
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  Speaker 1: be thirty eight, so it's just see, I'd have all
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  Speaker 1: these other opportunities to do this and that It's like,
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  Speaker 1: that's not usually the way you think when you're young.
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  Speaker 1: You know, being thirty eight seems like you might as
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  Speaker 1: well be dead, So there's no way I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: commit to do it.
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  Speaker 2: But that's the way he looks at things that is
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  Speaker 2: utterly unique.
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  Speaker 4: I now continually reminded my kids of of that reality,
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  Speaker 4: because it does not seem that way when you're young.
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  Speaker 4: I remember being practice not panic stricken, but extremely concerned
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  Speaker 4: at age twenty two and a half that I wasn't
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  Speaker 4: completely certain what I wanted to do, right, right, go
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  Speaker 4: off and do something for five years, then you'll be
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  Speaker 4: twenty seven and a half. Oh you know, from this perspective,
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  Speaker 4: it's crazy. But man, that is that is so nuts
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  Speaker 4: that he's in a good way that he's got that perspective.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, because we all just went through all
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  Speaker 1: our different iterations of things we want to do. I
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  Speaker 1: don't him to stay on this plan, but he's been
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  Speaker 1: with it for quite a while. He's always asking my
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  Speaker 1: brother about the military. This military then, and it would
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  Speaker 1: it's actually a good plan if you if you can
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  Speaker 1: handle the idea at a young age of twenty year
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  Speaker 1: commitment or something, and you don't have to commit for
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  Speaker 1: twenty years at a time. You sign up for chunks
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  Speaker 1: at a time.
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  Speaker 5: But uh, boy, understanding that age is that's amazing because.
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  Speaker 1: You're so young when you're thirty eight, good lord, Oh
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  Speaker 1: my gosh.
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  Speaker 3: I just had a conversation with a girl over the weekend.
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  Speaker 5: She lost her job unfortunately on Friday, and she's losing it.
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  Speaker 3: She is twenty six years old.
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  Speaker 5: Oh boy, She's like, I'm already twenty six I went,
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  Speaker 5: first of all, shut up about already.
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  Speaker 1: Being twenty six. Okay, not of that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Second, you're fine.
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  Speaker 4: Go find the twenty three year old who wants to
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  Speaker 4: hear that the rest of us not so much.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty funny. But I had never heard anybody
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  Speaker 1: who had the plan of taking two years off to
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  Speaker 1: get jacked.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So just as in aside on a semi serious note,
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  Speaker 4: it's one of the reasons I really believe in mentoring
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  Speaker 4: programs and am like crazy super passionate about not papering
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  Speaker 4: over deficiencies in schools in like inner city areas, rough
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  Speaker 4: areas wherever schools are suffering, and then just admitting the
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  Speaker 4: kids anyway, because my and Jack knows this story, the
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  Speaker 4: fact that it didn't even occur to me to pursue
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  Speaker 4: a career in radio until I was at a band
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  Speaker 4: rehearsal and one of the guitar players said he was
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  Speaker 4: going to his radio class, and I thought, oh, is
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  Speaker 4: that how you do that? I'd be better than him,
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  Speaker 4: and I enrolled in a radio class. It was as
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  Speaker 4: if I'd spent my entire life wandering around saying, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I'd really like to cure people of disease, and I'm
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  Speaker 4: fascinated by pharmacology and knives don't bother me, and I
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  Speaker 4: understand that surgery is important, and boy oh boy, I
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  Speaker 4: like science and again healing people. And it never occurred
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  Speaker 4: to me to be a doctor. I mean, it was
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  Speaker 4: that dense that it had never occurred to me. It
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  Speaker 4: just didn't For some reason. I thought they import space
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  Speaker 4: aliens to do that, or you're hatched or I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: summoned by God. It never occurred to me. No, you
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  Speaker 4: just make a couple of basic steps and then you
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  Speaker 4: explore it. And the fact that I could have that
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  Speaker 4: that's lack of vision just because I didn't know what
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  Speaker 4: those steps were. I realized there are lots and lots
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  Speaker 4: of kids like that that are kind of doomed to
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  Speaker 4: not pursue their dreams or even understand what their dreams
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  Speaker 4: are because they haven't seen somebody do it. And so
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  Speaker 4: that's what's so important about mentoring programs. And like the NFL,
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  Speaker 4: one of the best Super Bowl ads this is the
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  Speaker 4: day after the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: We're taping this.
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  Speaker 4: One of the best ones was that I am somebody thing.
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  Speaker 4: Or they go into neighborhoods and they tell kids, hey,
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  Speaker 4: this is a real possibility.
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  Speaker 2: People like you do this. I think those are great.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a weird thing about the human mind. It's
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  Speaker 1: putting limitations on yourself just for like things you aren't
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  Speaker 1: aware of, right a A variety of area areas, and
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  Speaker 1: it's just odd.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't explain it. It's just weird.
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  Speaker 4: Little kid walking around in a lab coat and just
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  Speaker 4: fascinated by disease, and.
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  Speaker 3: I just wish you could do something with that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I'll go manage a grocery store.
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  Speaker 6: I remember in high school, I wasn't getting very good grades,
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  Speaker 6: and I was at the guidance counselor and he said,
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  Speaker 6: you know, what kind of career do you think you're gonna,
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  Speaker 6: you know, have with this kind of grades. I looked
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  Speaker 6: at him and said, how about a guidance counselor?
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  Speaker 1: Very poorly?
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  Speaker 4: Oh man, it's funny, true, it's funny, youth full trolling
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  Speaker 4: at its best.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I guess that's it.