Latest / Going Direct Conversations / October 2025 Recap Show
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- 0:08SPEAKER_03: Welcome to the Going Direct October Monthly Recap Show.
- 0:11SPEAKER_03: I'm Jordan.
- 0:12SPEAKER_03: As always, I'm joined by my AI co-host, Tiny.
- 0:15SPEAKER_03: Hey, Tiny.
- 0:16SPEAKER_03: The one and only.
- 0:19Damn it.
- 0:21Just think of me as your emotional support robo-cat over here
- 0:24at Going Direct.
- 0:25SPEAKER_03: This month, we're talking about living in fee city.
- 0:28As we all know and experience,
- 0:29things just keep getting more and more expensive each year.
- 0:32But the thing that I started to notice just a few years ago was
- 0:34despite the prices
- 0:35SPEAKER_03: increasing,
- 0:36the quality and the value of the things that I'm buying are
- 0:38actually decreasing in
- 0:39SPEAKER_03: many cases.
- 0:40SPEAKER_03: And that's when you know there's actual problem at the system level.
- 0:43SPEAKER_03: And this is where the middleman economy comes in.
- 0:45SPEAKER_03: Bruh, how many times do I have to say it?
- 0:47SPEAKER_03: We've replaced meaning with margins.
- 0:49SPEAKER_03: I'm literally a talking robot that was built to explain this to you.
- 0:53SPEAKER_03: Yes, I know, Tiny, you keep repeating yourself.
- 0:55SPEAKER_03: You know, it was pretty interesting.
- 0:56SPEAKER_03: About two weeks ago, I was at a Detroit Lions football game.
- 0:59SPEAKER_03: I went out to get a drink for a friend of mine.
- 1:01SPEAKER_03: I bought two High Noons, little 12-ounce hard ciders.
- 1:04SPEAKER_03: The woman rang it up.
- 1:05SPEAKER_03: It was $38.
- 1:07SPEAKER_03: And I was like, what?
- 1:08SPEAKER_03: You think that's bad?
- 1:09My barista at Starbucks told me they just started taking Klarna
- 1:12to pay for my $8
- 1:13SPEAKER_03: pumpkin sugar water in installments.
- 1:15The reality is,
- 1:16if we feel like something's a ripoff,
- 1:18it's probably a ripoff.
- 1:20SPEAKER_03: And that's the theme that we talk about this month,
- 1:22and how the middleman economy is one of the major causes to why
- 1:25we feel like we're
- 1:25SPEAKER_03: getting taken advantage of in pretty much every aspect of our lives.
- 1:29SPEAKER_03: All right, Tiny, take it from here.
- 1:31SPEAKER_03: Welcome to Fee City, baby!
- 1:33SPEAKER_03: Sponsored by our beloved middleman,
- 1:35SPEAKER_03: where costs for education,
- 1:36SPEAKER_03: healthcare,
- 1:37SPEAKER_03: housing,
- 1:37SPEAKER_03: childcare,
- 1:38SPEAKER_03: food,
- 1:38SPEAKER_03: and much more just keep on rising.
- 1:41SPEAKER_03: In fees we trust.
- 1:44SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but Tiny, this is the exciting part.
- 1:46SPEAKER_03: When things get so out of whack and stop making sense,
- 1:48that's when the builders come in and create entirely new
- 1:51systems that compete with
- 1:52SPEAKER_03: the existing ones.
- 1:53SPEAKER_03: I get it.
- 1:54SPEAKER_03: So let's stop talking about the problems and look at potential solutions.
- 1:59SPEAKER_03: First up,
- 1:59Gaurab Chakrabarty from Solugen is on a mission to break the
- 2:03chemical monopoly in
- 2:04SPEAKER_03: the US.
- 2:05Solugen is building mini chemical plants that make chemicals
- 2:07using sugar,
- 2:08not oil.
- 2:10Vertical integration,
- 2:11decentralized,
- 2:13clean production,
- 2:14100% made in the USA.
- 2:18SPEAKER_03: It's my going direct wet dream.
- 2:22The whole idea that we're trying to go after is how do we break
- 2:24the distribution
- 2:25SPEAKER_01: monopoly that exists in the chemicals?
- 2:27messy middle of these supply chains and no one pays attention
- 2:30to it this wholesale
- 2:31distribution is where the freaking market consolidation and
- 2:36power is we need to
- 2:37change the mindset of the chemicals industry from being a
- 2:41production first and then
- 2:43consumer to consumer first meaning how do we get the customer
- 2:48the chemical that
- 2:49SPEAKER_01: they need at the right time in the right amount at the right price
- 2:52SPEAKER_03: Next,
- 2:53Reese drops by to talk about what happens when
- 2:55over-centralization occurs and
- 2:56SPEAKER_03: monopolies and middlemen run our economic lives.
- 2:59SPEAKER_03: As an example,
- 3:00Jordan and Reese talk about what happened with wheat and flour
- 3:03in America,
- 3:04SPEAKER_03: and why eating bread in the US makes you feel bloated.
- 3:08They also get into how AI and my robot homies are critical
- 3:11technologies to building
- 3:13SPEAKER_03: new,
- 3:13SPEAKER_03: decentralized systems.
- 3:16SPEAKER_03: Until we can get price and convenience nailed with decentralized systems,
- 3:20SPEAKER_03: I just don't think we can get people to care.
- 3:22SPEAKER_03: Humans just play status games, right?
- 3:24SPEAKER_03: We're all playing our own status games in our lives.
- 3:28SPEAKER_03: In the local community, bigger picture, everything's about status.
- 3:32SPEAKER_03: And so...
- 3:34SPEAKER_03: You know, in today's world, wealth equals status.
- 3:36SPEAKER_03: Lastly,
- 3:37Carl and Kevin from Physical Intelligence are building a world
- 3:40model so any type of
- 3:41SPEAKER_03: robot can see,
- 3:42SPEAKER_03: speak,
- 3:42SPEAKER_03: and act in the real world.
- 3:44SPEAKER_03: They're basically building my brain.
- 3:46SPEAKER_03: And they've got $400 million in the bank to make it happen.
- 3:50SPEAKER_03: So if I start sounding smarter in a few months, you'll know who to thank.
- 3:55SPEAKER_00: The biggest bottleneck to the entire field of robotics is intelligence.
- 4:01SPEAKER_00: It has always been intelligence,
- 4:02SPEAKER_00: and I think it is going to be intelligence for a very,
- 4:04SPEAKER_00: very long time.
- 4:05So we believe that the biggest value unlock we can provide is
- 4:09by solving that problem.
- 4:12SPEAKER_02: My research mission was very aligned with what became the mission of Pi,
- 4:15SPEAKER_02: which is,
- 4:16SPEAKER_02: like,
- 4:16SPEAKER_02: how can we solve physical intelligence?
- 4:18SPEAKER_02: The things traditional robotics were good at,
- 4:20SPEAKER_02: like factory automation,
- 4:21SPEAKER_02: which cases were really,
- 4:22SPEAKER_02: really important.
- 4:23SPEAKER_02: You need, like, 99.9999% success rate.
- 4:27SPEAKER_02: But if you have a laundry folding robot in your home,
- 4:29SPEAKER_02: like,
- 4:30SPEAKER_02: if it drops in underwear,
- 4:31SPEAKER_02: like,
- 4:32SPEAKER_02: one in every hundred times,
- 4:34SPEAKER_02: one in every thousand times,
- 4:35SPEAKER_02: like,
- 4:35SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 4:35SPEAKER_02: it's okay.
- 4:36SPEAKER_02: It's still really useful, actually.
- 4:38SPEAKER_03: That's it for October's monthly recap.
- 4:40SPEAKER_03: To all you humans out there, listen up.
- 4:42SPEAKER_03: We're all stuck in Fee City right now, but the cracks are forming.
- 4:46SPEAKER_03: It's time to build new systems that bypass the gatekeepers and middlemen.
- 4:51SPEAKER_03: It's time to go direct at scale.
- 4:54SPEAKER_03: You can check out the full conversations with Gorab,
- 4:56SPEAKER_03: Reese,
- 4:56SPEAKER_03: Carl,
- 4:57SPEAKER_03: and Kevin on the links below in the show notes.
- 4:59And remember to subscribe to our Substack for future monthly
- 5:02roundups.
- 5:03If you want to read our longer piece on living in peace city,
- 5:06thanks to the middleman economy.
- 5:08SPEAKER_03: Also one other thing.
- 5:09We're putting up conversations each week so you can also
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- 5:12and Spotify channels and you'll be notified when we release our
- 5:15conversations
- 5:16SPEAKER_03: throughout the month and then we recap them in this monthly roundup.
- 5:20I hope you all have a great,
- 5:21wonderful rest of fall and remember to go direct.
- 5:25SPEAKER_03: And remember to build with love.