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Birds Weekly: Philadelphia Eagles Led 21-0 But "Isn't Like All Of A Sudden The Offense Found Itself" · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, it is time for the freshest edition of
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Speaker 1: Birds Are Weekly presented by the Inside the Birds Network
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Speaker 1: for my colleague and friend Ray. Didn't John, Derek Gunn
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Speaker 1: and Ray. Nobody, and I mean nobody saw what happened
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Speaker 1: on Sunday coming, especially after the Eagles jump out to
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Speaker 1: a twenty one nothing lead. First three possessions, Ray, they
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Speaker 1: scored touchdowns, They had Jalen at twelve of seventeen, one
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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty seven yards. I mean, they were rolling,
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Speaker 1: they were rolling, Ray, and you're thinking, this is going
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Speaker 1: to be one of the most epic blowouts in the
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Speaker 1: history of an Eagles Cowboys series. And then all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden, Rayy, all of our hopes, all of our dreams,
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Speaker 1: all of ours which just go down the toilet. First
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Speaker 1: of all, your impressions of the way this Eagles often
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Speaker 1: started out the first three because it looked to me
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Speaker 1: in the first three possessions like they were finally, finally
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Speaker 1: and this was like looking like a playoff offense.
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Speaker 2: Uh, yes and no, yes and no in this sense.
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Speaker 3: You look at the scoreboard that says twenty one to nothing, yea,
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Speaker 3: and the first thing you think is, oh my god,
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Speaker 3: the offense has has found the key and.
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Speaker 2: They've unlocked the door.
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Speaker 3: Uh, but you look at the three you look at
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Speaker 3: the three drive, you look at the three scoring.
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Speaker 2: Drives, and they weren't really drives. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: The first the first one, the Cowboys coach. Cowboys coach
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Speaker 3: makes the decision, they're at midfield, he's going to go
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Speaker 3: for it and fourth down and they get stopped, and
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Speaker 3: so the Eagles get the ball at midfield, so short field.
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Speaker 2: That's seven nothing, second.
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Speaker 3: Possession, they're they're about to go three and out, and
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Speaker 3: they get rough on the kicker and they get new life.
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Speaker 2: They get the ball back and then they take that
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Speaker 2: in and score.
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Speaker 3: And the third one comes off the fumble where they
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Speaker 3: again they got a short field, they take it in. So, yes,
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Speaker 3: it's twenty one nothing, but it doesn't it doesn't tell
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Speaker 3: you that these were not three twelve plays eighty r drives.
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Speaker 3: You know, they got some opportunities and they got a
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Speaker 3: couple of breaks.
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Speaker 2: They took advantage of them.
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Speaker 3: But it isn't like all of a sudden the offense
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Speaker 3: found itself. You know, they got opportunities and they took
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Speaker 3: advantage of them, but there wasn't like all of a
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Speaker 3: sudden the wow, this thing is really rolling now, yeah,
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Speaker 3: scoreboard would say that, but they got some things that
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Speaker 3: kind of fell in their lap and it took advantage
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Speaker 3: of them. But once you got past that, then the
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Speaker 3: offense essentially disappeared, right, And that's kind and that's kind
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Speaker 3: of the way it's been all year with this team.
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Speaker 1: Ray, I was trying to be optimistic and you just
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Speaker 1: burst my bubble completely. You just killed my happy moment, right,
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Speaker 1: But I have to agree with you one hundred percent.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, and then early on in the game,
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Speaker 1: they get ag involved. You know, I thought as the
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Speaker 1: game wore on, they tried to involve him a little
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Speaker 1: too much, but they got him. They got him more
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Speaker 1: involved in the game because the Cowboys were giving him
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Speaker 1: seven to ten yards cushion. It was obvious early on
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Speaker 1: that they were a little bit afraid, I want to say,
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Speaker 1: of what a j possibly possibly could do to them.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it did seem that way, and the Eagles
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Speaker 3: did take advantage of it, and it was very clear
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Speaker 3: the part of the game plan was to get him
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Speaker 3: involved early, which to me makes perfect sense.
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Speaker 2: I mean, he's you know, I mean, he's that kind
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Speaker 2: of a player.
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Speaker 3: You want to get him involved, you want to make
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Speaker 3: him a bigger part of the offense. And the Eagles
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Speaker 3: had that opportunity and they did do that. But you know,
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Speaker 3: as as this whole season has unfolded, this was just
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Speaker 3: another chapter, you know, I mean, it was another one
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Speaker 3: where the offense, the execution of it, the play calling,
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Speaker 3: the overall application of it. I mean, it just it
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Speaker 3: just it's baffling, you know. I mean, I think I'm oversimplifying.
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Speaker 3: I don't know that it is all that baffling in
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Speaker 3: this respect. I really do think not the entirety of
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Speaker 3: the problem, but a lot of the problem.
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Speaker 2: You just take it back to the offensive line. You
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Speaker 2: really do, you really do?
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Speaker 3: I mean, you compare this offensive line as largely the
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Speaker 3: same guys that this offensive line this season to last season.
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Speaker 3: It's totally totally different and they're trying to do a
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Speaker 3: lot of the same things. They're trying to be basically
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Speaker 3: the same kind of offense, but the offensive line they're
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Speaker 3: playing essentially with a different offensive line. I mean, that's
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Speaker 3: and that's where everything is kind of breaking down. And
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Speaker 3: I don't know this deep into the season, Derek, how
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Speaker 3: much you'll be able to fix it.
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Speaker 2: You know, I really don't.
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Speaker 3: It's not like, oh yeah, they'll tweak a couple of things,
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Speaker 3: and you know they'll figure that. Well, you know, here
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Speaker 3: we are, we're eleven weeks in Thanksgivings coming up. I
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Speaker 3: don't know if there's all of a sudden that the
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Speaker 3: light's gonna come on. I think this is what they're
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Speaker 3: gonna be the rest of the way.
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Speaker 1: I agree with you one hundred percent. I don't think
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Speaker 1: at this stage of the season it's it's a fix it.
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a tweak it. I think it's
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Speaker 1: we're going to have to keep doing what we're doing
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Speaker 1: and hope that it irons itself out. Because at this point,
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Speaker 1: you are what you are ray for the season. Every team,
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Speaker 1: whether you're a playoff contender or whether you're a team
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Speaker 1: jockeying for a position for the number one pick in
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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty six draft, you are what you are
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Speaker 1: at this point, and Eagles right now are what they
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Speaker 1: are I look at the way this game unfolded.
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Speaker 2: Ray.
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Speaker 1: But but this team is also, especially this offense is
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Speaker 1: a jackal and hide, and the defense kind of played
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Speaker 1: itself like that. Also the first half of this game,
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Speaker 1: when the Eagles wore up twenty one to nothing, the
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Speaker 1: Eagles had one hundred and eighty seven yards of offense.
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Speaker 1: Dallas had sixty yards of offense. When Dallas stopped kicking
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Speaker 1: themselves in the butt and they got that late touchdown
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Speaker 1: before the half ended, I'm looking at the halftime stats
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Speaker 1: and love and behold, Dallas has two hundred and eleven
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Speaker 1: yards of offense and the Eagles had one ninety six
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Speaker 1: when Dallas got that first testdown. Were you a little
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Speaker 1: bit concerned? Then? Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's you're right. I mean that's exactly
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Speaker 2: how it was.
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Speaker 3: And you know, the there was a feeling there that
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Speaker 3: after at up twenty one to nothing, the offense began
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Speaker 3: coughing and sputtering.
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Speaker 2: You know, you saw it coming on. We've seen it
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Speaker 2: all year.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 3: And then Dallas got that last possession and they score
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Speaker 3: right before the half.
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Speaker 1: Uh, And.
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Speaker 3: You kind of got the feel and that gave them
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Speaker 3: a little something to you know, but the Eagles were
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Speaker 3: getting the ball to start the second half. So what
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Speaker 3: you're thinking is, okay, you know, Cowboys are kind of
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Speaker 3: back in the game. They got a little hope. But
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Speaker 3: the Eagles get the ball to start the second half.
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Speaker 3: They come out, they take control. Here, they take it down,
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Speaker 3: they score, they can put this thing back in order,
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Speaker 3: you know, and instead that first series of the second
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Speaker 3: half becomes a foreshadowing of everything that's going to happen.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you get the second play, you get a
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Speaker 3: completion on the first play that's uck Hertz throws past
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Speaker 3: the Calcutara, get eight yards. Okay, fine, second down they
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Speaker 3: run that real sweet little pass to Goddard, they get
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Speaker 3: some twenty and you think, okay, we're really rolling. And
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Speaker 3: now here it comes. Here's the flag and it's coming back,
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Speaker 3: and you know, Matt Pryor lines up incorrectly, so that
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Speaker 3: play comes back. Now instead of being you know, instead
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Speaker 3: of being down in Dallas territory for the first down,
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Speaker 3: now all of a sudden, you're facing a long yard
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Speaker 3: situation and you.
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Speaker 2: Wind up going three and out.
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Speaker 3: You give the ball back to the Cowboys, and all
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Speaker 3: of a sudden, it's the game again. That drive to
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Speaker 3: start the second half was really the Eagles opportunity to
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Speaker 3: kind of re establish control of the game, and they could.
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Speaker 3: It looked like they were getting ready to do that,
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Speaker 3: but a stupid penalty wipes out a big play. They
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Speaker 3: wind up, they don't get a first down, they have
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Speaker 3: to punt the ball back to the Cowboys, and the
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Speaker 3: Cowboys get the ball, and the rest of that half
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Speaker 3: was really kind of the Cowboys game. And I again,
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Speaker 3: it's not like it's something we haven't seen before. I mean,
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Speaker 3: that's been this offense just hurting itself one series after another.
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Speaker 3: You know, fourteen penalties ninety six yards. You can't win.
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Speaker 3: I mean you can't win playing that kind of football.
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Speaker 3: And it's not like, you know, it's not like it's, oh,
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Speaker 3: it was just one game. Why fourteen penalties? Yeah, it's
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Speaker 3: just one game is a bad game. No, They've been
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Speaker 3: doing this all along. I mean the first time they
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Speaker 3: played the Cowboys Week one, they had nine penalties. That
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Speaker 3: the Denver game that they blew when they had a
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Speaker 3: big lead, nine penalties. Last week it's a Lions nine penalties.
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Speaker 3: Had two other games with eight penalties. So this game
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Speaker 3: was not just a one off. It wasn't just one
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Speaker 3: of those. Oh man, that was one of those days. No, no, no, no,
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Speaker 3: I mean them been doing this week after week, getting
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Speaker 3: away with it very often, but this week they did.
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Speaker 1: Season high fourteen penalties. Ray, let's holding in on that
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Speaker 1: for just a moment. We heard players talking about lack
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Speaker 1: of focus, lack of concentration. You're the defending Super Bowl champions. Offensively,
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Speaker 1: you have the same unit basically as you had a
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Speaker 1: year ago minus Makai Becton. You know, a big game,
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Speaker 1: what it takes to play a big games, what it
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Speaker 1: takes to mentally prepare for big games. How about the
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Speaker 1: world were you talking about for a season high fourteen
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Speaker 1: penalties against the Dallas Cowboys, and you know how pivotal
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Speaker 1: that game could be in terms of the jockey for
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Speaker 1: number one seed in the NFC? Is it lack of
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Speaker 1: focus or lack of discipline rate?
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Speaker 3: That's probably both, probably both. When do you go through
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Speaker 3: the kinds of stop start, backward forward, up down kind
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Speaker 3: of season that's been for this team, you know it's
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Speaker 3: never one thing, and that's you know, that's one thing
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Speaker 3: that you know, Nick serian I said to you before
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Speaker 3: we started rolling here that the only thing that's more
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Speaker 3: frustrating than watching this team play is watching Nick Sirianni's
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Speaker 3: press conferences because it seems like he doesn't really I mean,
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Speaker 3: the guys are asking the right questions, but he's not
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Speaker 3: really answering them. So that's that's really frustrating. But the
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Speaker 3: one thing that he has said, which I agree with,
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Speaker 3: and he said it pretty much every week is you know,
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Speaker 3: when things go wrong, it's never just one thing, and
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Speaker 3: it's never just one guy. If it were, that's pretty fixable,
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Speaker 3: but it's not. It's been a different guy on a
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Speaker 3: different play. It's been a different thing on a different week.
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Speaker 3: And that's why this team is where it is. You know,
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Speaker 3: watching this game, watching this game, and then watching the
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Speaker 3: whole course of the season up till now, it's been
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Speaker 3: it's had me shaking my head because how many times,
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Speaker 3: how many times in assessing this season, like on all
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Speaker 3: the media platforms, have you seen people make this statement
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Speaker 3: this team they just find a way to win. Yep,
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Speaker 3: they find a way to win. So well, what are
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Speaker 3: you really saying there? You're saying, I don't know how
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Speaker 3: they're winning these games, but I guess they're winning them
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Speaker 3: now that you know what. That reminds me of. That
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Speaker 3: reminds me of doesn't remind me of last year. It
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Speaker 3: reminds me of two years ago. Remember two years ago
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Speaker 3: when they got to ten and one. How many times
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Speaker 3: did you how many times did you hear people say
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Speaker 3: they find a way to win. Yeah, they find a
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Speaker 3: way to win. And it was the same thing. It
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Speaker 3: was sort of like everybody was saying, I don't really
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Speaker 3: quite believe what's going on here, but they find a
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Speaker 3: way to win. That isn't what you were saying last year.
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Speaker 3: No one was saying last year when this team got
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Speaker 3: on its roll, they find a way to win. No,
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Speaker 3: you you were kicking teams butts from the first snap
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Speaker 3: to the last snap, and when it was over, you
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Speaker 3: damn well knew how they won.
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Speaker 2: They won it.
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Speaker 3: They came out and they and they rolled the opposition.
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Speaker 3: So nobody was saying they found a way to win. No,
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Speaker 3: they dominated. They dominated this team last year their way
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Speaker 3: to the super Bowl. They dominated through the second half
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Speaker 3: of the year. It was two years ago we were
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Speaker 3: saying they find a way to win, and we know
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Speaker 3: how that season ended up. So that's kind of where
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Speaker 3: we are right now. And it's same thing. You know,
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Speaker 3: they're eight and three leading their division, looks like they're
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Speaker 3: on their way to the playoffs.
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Speaker 2: You know that's not bad.
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Speaker 3: But to try and say that this team is the
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Speaker 3: same team as they were last year, it's not even close.
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Speaker 3: It's not even close. And to your point of what
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Speaker 3: you were saying just a moment ago, and I kind
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Speaker 3: of agree with you. I think when you get to
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Speaker 3: this point in the season, when you get to Thanksgiving week,
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Speaker 3: this is what you are. You know you're you know
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Speaker 3: you're not There's the reinforcements aren't coming over the hill. Okay,
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Speaker 3: there's nobody coming in to help you. You're just gonna
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Speaker 3: have to find a way to get there with what
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Speaker 3: you got right now and what you saw on Sunday,
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Speaker 3: I mean that was pretty bad and now they got
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Speaker 3: to get it together on it. Yet another short week
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Speaker 3: to play a red hot Chicago Bear team, even though
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Speaker 3: it's at home, that ain't going to be easy.
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Speaker 1: You know, array the public outcry to fire Kevin Batullo
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Speaker 1: is louder than it's ever been, and obviously it's because
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Speaker 1: of the way they lost this game to the hated
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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. But I'm not gonna let the players off
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Speaker 1: the hook. I mean, this is more than just Batulo
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Speaker 1: you know, you can vote. It is an unimaginative offense,
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Speaker 1: but execution is execution. It wasn't a flashy offense a
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Speaker 1: year ago when they won the Super Bowl. It was
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Speaker 1: a grinded out, run over the opponent type offense. But
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Speaker 1: that worked for them. Yeah, it's like you said, the players.
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Speaker 1: It's always something with the players. It's one player, it's
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Speaker 1: two player. You know. Sometimes it's consecutive plays where penalties
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Speaker 1: will hold them back. There were two plays in this
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Speaker 1: game with Dallas Goddard at It catches for big games
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Speaker 1: called back because the penalties. You know, I understand Kevin
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Speaker 1: Bitto may not be the most creative offensive mastermind in
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Speaker 1: the NFL, but don't absolve the players from this mess
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Speaker 1: as well, because Lady Luck has shined on this offense
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Speaker 1: much of this season in terms of making the necessary plays.
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Speaker 1: Lady Luck frowned on this team against the Dallas Cowboys.
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Speaker 1: And you know what, luck only carries so far. You
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Speaker 1: can only go so far with luck before it comes
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Speaker 1: back to bite you in the backside. And it bit him.
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Speaker 1: It bit him big time this time. And I don't
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Speaker 1: know what you're going to do from this point on,
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Speaker 1: because now you've lost even more players and you got
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Speaker 1: big games coming up as well.
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Speaker 3: Yep, yep, for sure. You know, I understand the outcry
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Speaker 3: about Patulo because he was an unknown, has no track
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Speaker 3: record for doing this. So people were a little skeptical
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Speaker 3: going to the season. I mean when people were when heck,
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Speaker 3: when you and I back in Week one were saying, yeah,
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Speaker 3: defending champs, got all this personnel for the most part,
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Speaker 3: on you know, what are your concerns going into the season,
19:04
Speaker 3: and everybody kind of said, well, we kind of got
19:06
Speaker 3: to see how the new offensive coordinator works out. You know,
19:09
Speaker 3: the communication between him and the quarterback, the play calling,
19:12
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. I mean, it was a legitimate point
19:14
Speaker 3: to raise, and people raised it. But the stuff that's
19:19
Speaker 3: happening now, and I'm not going to absolve the Tuolo
19:22
Speaker 3: of anything here because he I mean, he's his hand
19:24
Speaker 3: in it, darn right it is. But he's not sending
19:29
Speaker 3: in plays telling guys to jump off sides. He's not
19:32
Speaker 3: sending in plays to say, by the way, line up
19:35
Speaker 3: in the wrong spot. Here's the play, but you line
19:37
Speaker 3: up in the working spot. He's not sending in plays
19:39
Speaker 3: and saying, hey, Fred, make sure you get your hands
19:41
Speaker 3: in the face of that pass rusher.
19:42
Speaker 2: You know, he's sending in plays.
19:45
Speaker 3: But the players are the ones that are getting the
19:48
Speaker 3: flags thrown on them. And that comes back to execution,
19:52
Speaker 3: you know, and the play calling and the offensive design.
19:55
Speaker 3: I mean, that's all part of the equation, and we
19:58
Speaker 3: I fully acknowledge that. But once the ball snapped, I mean,
20:04
Speaker 3: it's up to the players to carry it out and
20:07
Speaker 3: they just haven't been. And the weekend, week out, penalty
20:12
Speaker 3: after penalty, drive killers, bad decisions. It's you know, that's that's.
20:19
Speaker 2: That part of it's on the players.
20:20
Speaker 3: The coaches had bear a certain amount of responsibility, and
20:23
Speaker 3: they should, but this is also on the players, it
20:26
Speaker 3: really is. And you know, you look at Kevin Patulo's situation.
20:34
Speaker 3: He he's a rookie offensive coordinator. He had never done
20:39
Speaker 3: this before. He's been a he was a career position
20:42
Speaker 3: coach who was handed at the OC responsibility for a
20:46
Speaker 3: Super Bowl champion. Okay, his first crack at this first
20:50
Speaker 3: time being the OC. He's going to be for a
20:53
Speaker 3: team that just won the Super Bowl. So what do
20:58
Speaker 3: people expect? I mean, do you think do you think
21:01
Speaker 3: he's going to come in and say, you know, what
21:05
Speaker 3: I'm gonna got a whole new playbook for you. You know,
21:09
Speaker 3: you know you're won the Super Bowl doing this stuff.
21:10
Speaker 3: But I got these ideas, this is what we're going
21:12
Speaker 3: to do. Of course not He's going to come in
21:15
Speaker 3: in his position and he's going to try and run
21:17
Speaker 3: the same offense and just won the super Bowl.
21:18
Speaker 2: Okay, so he had.
21:21
Speaker 3: It's basically the same formula of what they they were built.
21:25
Speaker 3: They went on their run, they won their super Bowl
21:28
Speaker 3: with one style of play and one philosophy, and it
21:31
Speaker 3: was all built off the running game, which all started
21:34
Speaker 3: with a dominating offensive line. So he's not going to
21:37
Speaker 3: come in as a first time offensive coordinator and change
21:39
Speaker 3: all that, you know. And so he comes in and
21:42
Speaker 3: he says, Okay, this is what won for us before.
21:45
Speaker 3: We're going forward with this philosophy and this playbook. I
21:49
Speaker 3: totally understand that part of it. The problem is you're
21:52
Speaker 3: trying to do that with an offensive line that isn't
21:55
Speaker 3: anywhere near as good as it was a year ago.
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Speaker 3: So it's if that's if, that's kind of where you are,
23:30
Speaker 3: and that is where they are. I kind of understand
23:33
Speaker 3: how they got there, But now you got to try
23:37
Speaker 3: and find a way to get this to get this truck,
23:39
Speaker 3: to get this truck.
23:40
Speaker 2: Out of the mud and get it back on the road.
23:43
Speaker 3: It can actually when it gets back to the playoffs
23:46
Speaker 3: this year, which they will clearly once you get back there,
23:50
Speaker 3: are you going to be Are you going to be
23:51
Speaker 3: in a position to win a game or two? The
23:54
Speaker 3: way they're playing right now, as inconsistent as they are
23:57
Speaker 3: right now, and essentially as in a effective as they
24:00
Speaker 3: are on offense right now. You know, do you like
24:03
Speaker 3: their chances in the postseason against good teams?
24:06
Speaker 1: I really don't know. No. Great for a life for me.
24:09
Speaker 1: I can't understand why they can't run the football. I
24:12
Speaker 1: really can't. This was the Dallas defense giving up one
24:14
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty one yards a game on the ground.
24:17
Speaker 1: This is one of the poorest defense over defenses overall
24:20
Speaker 1: in the National Football League, Saquon Barkley touches the ball,
24:23
Speaker 1: He's getting smacked behind the line of scrimmage more than
24:25
Speaker 1: he is once he crosses the line of scrimmage. I'm
24:27
Speaker 1: at a point now, I understand teams are honing in
24:30
Speaker 1: on Saquon. I'm at a point now I might want
24:32
Speaker 1: to see a little bit more tank Bigsby. I mean,
24:34
Speaker 1: every time he gets the ball, he's picking up eight, nine,
24:37
Speaker 1: twelve yards. So what is he saying when he gets
24:40
Speaker 1: the ball that Saquon isn't saying. That's a good question,
24:45
Speaker 1: you know, if you want to get if you want
24:48
Speaker 1: to get this Brown game going, and I understand you
24:50
Speaker 1: pay Saquon a lot of money. I'm sorry, but the
24:55
Speaker 1: SOS is right now, give the ball a tank more.
24:57
Speaker 1: I'm serious, you know, I'm just I'm at that point
25:00
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, you're not alone. I mean a lot
25:03
Speaker 1: of people have asked me that question.
25:04
Speaker 3: Like you know, it's it's happened often enough now that
25:07
Speaker 3: you put Bigsby in there and he goes eight yards,
25:10
Speaker 3: ten yards, wait a minute, and then he's out. You know,
25:13
Speaker 3: he gets two touches and he averages nine yards of
25:16
Speaker 3: carry and then he's on the bench. So what's up
25:19
Speaker 3: and why doesn't he get the ball more? Yeah, perfectly
25:23
Speaker 3: logical questions to ask. I think with Barkley all year,
25:28
Speaker 3: and the question is now being asked out loud, has
25:32
Speaker 3: Barkley lost it?
25:33
Speaker 2: Is there something? Is there something wrong with him?
25:35
Speaker 3: Is he Is he hurt and not saying anything about it?
25:39
Speaker 3: Is he into one of those the year after the
25:44
Speaker 3: two thousand yard year that he is just not the
25:46
Speaker 3: same guy? I mean, is this Are we seeing Jamal
25:50
Speaker 3: Anderson again? Are we seeing Priest Holmes again? That is
25:54
Speaker 3: that what we're seeing? I don't really feel that. I
25:58
Speaker 3: don't really see that. I don't think he's broken down physically.
26:03
Speaker 3: I think it's largely fat.
26:04
Speaker 2: Again.
26:05
Speaker 3: Almost everything with me, it all comes back to the
26:07
Speaker 3: offensive line. I mean, none of the guys on the
26:10
Speaker 3: offensive line, and they're largely in the same guys, they
26:13
Speaker 3: just aren't. They just aren't playing the way they did
26:15
Speaker 3: last year. There isn't a single guy on that line
26:18
Speaker 3: that's playing as well as he played a year.
26:19
Speaker 1: Ago, not at all.
26:21
Speaker 2: So it's not like, oh, it's they got Steen in
26:23
Speaker 2: there instead of Beckton. So that's the whole problem.
26:25
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I mean Milatta has not played as
26:28
Speaker 3: well as he played before. Dickerson, we all know that
26:31
Speaker 3: he's been hurt all year and he's trying to play
26:34
Speaker 3: through it, but not particularly well. Jurgens has been in
26:38
Speaker 3: and out, had the back surgery.
26:40
Speaker 2: He's not the same player.
26:42
Speaker 3: Steen at this point looks to me like a kid
26:45
Speaker 3: who's he can pass block some, but he's not much
26:48
Speaker 3: of a run blocker. And Lane is, you know, thirty
26:52
Speaker 3: five and struggling physically. I mean, so that's kind of
26:55
Speaker 3: the reality of it. But you're trying to run the
26:57
Speaker 3: same plays and you're one wondering why it's not being
27:02
Speaker 3: as effective. I think that you look at Barkley when
27:05
Speaker 3: he takes a handoff now and you can see now
27:07
Speaker 3: they're throwing him the ball as much as they're handing
27:09
Speaker 3: it off to him. He takes the handoff now and
27:13
Speaker 3: there's two guys on him before he even gets back
27:16
Speaker 3: to the line of scrimmage. So it's no mystery to
27:20
Speaker 3: me that he's averaging three point whatever on per carry
27:25
Speaker 3: because he's just not getting He's just not there. The
27:28
Speaker 3: holes aren't there, and he's not getting he's not getting
27:33
Speaker 3: the kind of blocking that.
27:34
Speaker 2: He got last year. That's part of it.
27:37
Speaker 3: But what I've started to see now in the last
27:41
Speaker 3: couple of weeks is.
27:45
Speaker 2: I think's it's in his head now, and when.
27:48
Speaker 3: He's running with the ball, he isn't quite as decisive,
27:52
Speaker 3: you know. I mean it's more like he's got the
27:55
Speaker 3: ball and he's kind of looking for that daylight and
27:58
Speaker 3: he's trying to find that hole where he get where
28:00
Speaker 3: you can get the crack and get the big gainer.
28:02
Speaker 3: Whereas last year it was just there. I mean, he
28:05
Speaker 3: took the ball and it was there. I mean the
28:07
Speaker 3: door was wide open. That ain't true now. But every
28:11
Speaker 3: time he's getting the ball, he's kind of looking for it,
28:13
Speaker 3: which makes him a little a little tentative, you know,
28:18
Speaker 3: Whereas when Tank comes in, Tank is just busting it.
28:22
Speaker 3: I mean he's just taking the ball and he's going
28:24
Speaker 3: north south. I mean he's just putting his head down
28:26
Speaker 3: and he's just driving it. And I don't think it
28:29
Speaker 3: seems to me like he's hitting whatever hole there is
28:33
Speaker 3: quicker than Saquan is hitting his. And I think it's
28:35
Speaker 3: a case where the defenses are clearly playing or just
28:39
Speaker 3: laying on Berkley and not giving him a chance to
28:42
Speaker 3: get started.
28:42
Speaker 2: And I think now it's kind of working on his mind.
28:44
Speaker 3: He knows people are talking about it, he knows how
28:46
Speaker 3: far below last year's standard he's playing, and every time
28:49
Speaker 3: he's got the ball, he's I think he's starting to
28:51
Speaker 3: press a little bit, whereas Tank just comes in and
28:53
Speaker 3: Tanks just says, give me the ball and I'm going
28:55
Speaker 3: And I think it's a little bit of a different look.
28:59
Speaker 3: Do I think the Tank is a better runner than Barkley, No, No,
29:02
Speaker 3: But I think right now where Barkley is and the
29:05
Speaker 3: kind of season it's been and knowing the expectations for him,
29:09
Speaker 3: I think maybe he's trying to do more with each
29:11
Speaker 3: carry than Tank is. Tank's just trying to take it
29:13
Speaker 3: and go with it, where as I think Barkley is
29:15
Speaker 3: trying every carry to be the carry that's going to
29:18
Speaker 3: turn this season around.
29:20
Speaker 1: And this Eagles defense that was so dominant against the
29:23
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions and made Jared Goff very uncomfortable. They couldn't
29:28
Speaker 1: touch Herd, they could hardly touch Dak Prescott. I don't
29:31
Speaker 1: think Dak was uncomfortable more than maybe two or three
29:34
Speaker 1: plays the entire game, and for the last two plus
29:37
Speaker 1: quarters of the game, the Dallas Cowboys racked up four
29:40
Speaker 1: hundred and thirteen yards on this Eagles defense. They finished
29:44
Speaker 1: with four to seventy three against this Eagles defense. Now,
29:47
Speaker 1: because of the ineptitude of the offense, I believe the
29:50
Speaker 1: Eagles defense was gassed to a certain degree. But the
29:53
Speaker 1: big name players didn't show up. Jalen Carter was in
29:56
Speaker 1: the witness protection program and I thought he would have
29:59
Speaker 1: a big game entertrat in the middle of that Dallas
30:01
Speaker 1: offensive left. He was a no show in this game.
30:03
Speaker 1: And I understand, you know, players did fall by the wayside,
30:08
Speaker 1: but the fact that they couldn't get off the field
30:10
Speaker 1: against Dallas in that second half basically was shocking with
30:13
Speaker 1: shocking in a lot of ways.
30:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you.
30:16
Speaker 3: I thought that they would be able to get more
30:18
Speaker 3: pressure on on the rare occasions that they got a
30:22
Speaker 3: little pressure, Dak was pretty good about kind of getting
30:25
Speaker 3: out of the pocket and getting himself just enough time
30:28
Speaker 3: to make a play. You know, I think I've always
30:32
Speaker 3: been a Dak Prescott fan. I think he's a good player,
30:35
Speaker 3: I really do. Uh And and now if you look
30:38
Speaker 3: at his career, he's got the numbers to back it up.
30:40
Speaker 3: I know how Eagle fans feel about Cowboys, and I
30:43
Speaker 3: know how Eagles fans feel about Cowboys quarterback. They're not
30:46
Speaker 3: going to give him any credit. No, but he's pretty
30:48
Speaker 3: he's pretty good player. And I think he's like ten
30:51
Speaker 3: and five career against the Eagles.
30:53
Speaker 1: Yes, so in seven and one at home against the Eagles,
30:56
Speaker 1: he's he's.
30:57
Speaker 2: Had He's had good games against this team. This was
30:59
Speaker 2: nothing new, but you got.
31:02
Speaker 3: To get pressure on him to have any success, and
31:04
Speaker 3: Eagles really didn't and on a couple of the occasions
31:07
Speaker 3: when they did get a little heat, for the most part,
31:09
Speaker 3: he was able to get out and get out of
31:11
Speaker 3: there and still make a play. He played really well.
31:14
Speaker 3: I mean, you talk about the numbers, and you're right.
31:16
Speaker 3: The defense and we praised him to the sky the
31:18
Speaker 3: last two weeks greatly, So, I mean they played really
31:21
Speaker 3: good against Green Bay and Detroit. But in this game,
31:24
Speaker 3: I mean they got shredded. And I think because the
31:27
Speaker 3: offense was doing nothing like six seven straight possessions, they
31:33
Speaker 3: were just giving it right back to the Cowboys. I
31:36
Speaker 3: think the defense did get a little bit gassed. And
31:38
Speaker 3: the other part of it is just listen that is
31:40
Speaker 3: an explosive offense.
31:42
Speaker 2: Yes, they're the number one passing offense in the league. Okay,
31:45
Speaker 2: So I mean that's a fact. So you keep giving
31:48
Speaker 2: them the ball back, you keep giving them the ball back.
31:50
Speaker 2: At some point they're going to start to they're going
31:52
Speaker 2: to start to get it roll. And that's and that's
31:54
Speaker 2: what they did. Pickens played great, but.
31:57
Speaker 3: I mean you pointed out I think they finished like
32:00
Speaker 3: a four hundred and seventy three and seventy four yards.
32:03
Speaker 2: Listen, if C. D. Lamb doesn't drop five passes, they
32:07
Speaker 2: might have five.
32:08
Speaker 3: Hundred and fifty yards exactly that game. I mean, that's
32:11
Speaker 3: that is how many big plays they were hitting this
32:13
Speaker 3: team with. So the idea that I had somebody last
32:17
Speaker 3: week was working on a story that they're going right
32:20
Speaker 3: for the paper about comparing this Eagles defense to the
32:24
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety one Eagles defense, and I said, no, you.
32:35
Speaker 2: Know, look, they've had a couple of really good games
32:37
Speaker 2: they have.
32:38
Speaker 3: They played really good against Green Bay, they played really
32:39
Speaker 3: good against Detroit, and you know, they.
32:43
Speaker 2: Get some good young players and the other are pretty good.
32:45
Speaker 3: But no, no, comparing them to the nineteen ninety one defense.
32:50
Speaker 3: You know, Reggie Waite, Eric Allen, Seth Joyner, Jeromera, Clyde Sibbett.
32:55
Speaker 2: No, no, no, we're not there yet.
32:58
Speaker 3: And I think I think this game on Sunday kind
33:00
Speaker 3: of kind of underscored that. I mean, they're good, and
33:03
Speaker 3: they're a big reason why this team is eight and three,
33:06
Speaker 3: but let's not start comparing them to Hall of famers just.
33:09
Speaker 1: Yet, right right? You know, and ray two of the
33:11
Speaker 1: more egregious plays in the game. Saquon fumbles for the
33:14
Speaker 1: first time this season, and then of course, what the
33:17
Speaker 1: heck was Xavier Gibson thinking about field and then punt
33:21
Speaker 1: at the three yard line and then gets blown up.
33:24
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody's screaming, let it go, let it go.
33:27
Speaker 1: You get the ball at twenty, let it go. No no, no, no,
33:30
Speaker 1: no no. You talk about players who mentally were off
33:34
Speaker 1: their game on Sunday, they were mentally off their game.
33:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, they they were.
33:39
Speaker 3: And uh, you know the Gibson, the Gibson play, which
33:43
Speaker 3: is unforgivable. I mean, it's just it's just unforgivable. They
33:51
Speaker 3: wound up, you know, they wound up. The defense bailed
33:54
Speaker 3: them out. I mean, the defense held held the Cowboys
33:56
Speaker 3: out of the end zone.
33:57
Speaker 1: On that.
33:57
Speaker 3: Give them, give them credit for that. But yeah, I
34:00
Speaker 3: mean that's just that was just so well. Listen, Derek,
34:03
Speaker 3: in your youth, you were an old kick returner. I
34:05
Speaker 3: mean you you've you've been in that position, and the
34:08
Speaker 3: thing that you're taught is you have to be aware
34:10
Speaker 3: where you are. And if you're at the ten yard line,
34:12
Speaker 3: which is where this kid was in that ball went
34:14
Speaker 3: in the air, if you find yourself backing up, don't
34:18
Speaker 3: touch it. Okay, don't you know? Nothing good can happen,
34:21
Speaker 3: nothing good can happen there.
34:23
Speaker 2: You gotta let it go.
34:24
Speaker 3: And he caught that at the two yard line and
34:27
Speaker 3: then of course compounds it by fumbling.
34:29
Speaker 2: Listen, that's what got him cut in New York.
34:32
Speaker 3: I mean it was exactly that kind of thing, that
34:34
Speaker 3: kind of bad judgment, that kind of inability to put
34:38
Speaker 3: the ball away, that's what got That's what got him
34:40
Speaker 3: cut in New York. Now I'm not saying that's what's
34:42
Speaker 3: going to happen here, but it does raise an interesting
34:46
Speaker 3: question looking ahead to Friday.
34:48
Speaker 2: You know, who are you gonna who are you gonna
34:50
Speaker 2: put back on pump tree? Are you going to put
34:54
Speaker 2: him back there?
34:55
Speaker 3: After what you just saw I don't think so are
34:57
Speaker 3: you going to bring Are you going to bring Britain
34:59
Speaker 3: Covid up for the practice?
35:01
Speaker 2: Quiet? I mean he hadn't touched the ball all year?
35:04
Speaker 3: Or are you going to put Cooper Dejine back there
35:06
Speaker 3: like it did last year?
35:08
Speaker 2: I mean you got to find somebody between now and Friday.
35:11
Speaker 2: What are you going to do?
35:13
Speaker 1: M m, Well, I'm sick of talking about the Dallas
35:15
Speaker 1: Cowboys and giving them kudos. They won a game, So
35:17
Speaker 1: what They're five to five and one, Eagles eight and
35:20
Speaker 1: three right now, and they have a lot of football
35:22
Speaker 1: left to play to try to get this thing right.
35:24
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Speaker 3: go there. So next Wednesday night, Greatest Moments in Philadelphia
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Speaker 3: sports History Glenn mcnow, Joe Conklin and me. If you're
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Speaker 3: interested in coming out, and I hope you will, go
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Speaker 3: to the Scottish Right Auditorium website and you can order
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Speaker 3: your tickets and we will see you next Wednesday night.
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Speaker 1: That sounds like a phenomenal list of who, including your
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Speaker 1: distinguished self, my friend. All right, that's going to wrap
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Speaker 1: up this edition of Birds Weekly, presented by the Inside
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Speaker 1: of the Birds Network. We'll be back here to talk
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Speaker 1: about the Eagles and the Chicago Bears hopefully and Eagles win.
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Speaker 1: And keep your fingers crossed until then. We'll see you
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Speaker 1: next time.