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Friends Who Became Family: All the Love, None of the Gluten-with Ken & Sara Parkinson · Laugh Love Law

• 0:12
  SPEAKER_04: Welcome back to Laugh Love Law.
• 0:15
  SPEAKER_04: Some guests I meet through work, some through school, others I discover through the show, and then there are some guests that already know way too much about me.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_04: Ken and Sarah Parkinson are two of our best friends.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_04: They are both teachers.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_04: Ken is also a contractor and the owner of Leap Home Improvement.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_04: They have a big close family, and over the years our families have shared a whole lot of life together.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_04: I would say together we're the Parklands, the Parkinsons and the Kaplan's, one big family.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_04: We've cruised, we've camped, we've traveled, laughed, made memories, and our kids have grown up being best friends too.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_04: These are two of the funniest people I know.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_04: This one is not a regular episode.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_04: It's just friends sitting on a couch, sharing family stories, travel disasters, marriage, kids, teaching, and probably a few other things that shouldn't be said on the air.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_04: I may actually regret giving them microphones.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_04: But Ken and Sarah, welcome to Laugh Love Law.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_01: Hello, thank you.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_04: So happy you're here.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_04: So let's start at the beginning.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_04: So, Sarah, you and I became friends through our oldest daughters, Julia and Ella.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_04: But the story actually goes way back before that.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_04: You want to tell it?
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so I actually knew Josh, Heather's husband, since I was born.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_02: Um, we grew up in the same neighborhood, and our moms were very good friends.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_02: So Josh is a little bit older than me.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_02: He was friends with my brother.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm Josh is old.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_02: He's old.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_02: Josh is old.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_02: He's rounding 60.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_02: Um, yes.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_02: So and I'm very old.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_02: He does, he does.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_04: He does for 60, but yeah.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_02: But we we knew each other, and my parents were always friends with his parents.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but obviously Josh and I were in different periods of life, so we didn't really hang out, obviously, until we reconnected with our kids and with you.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so I think we our girls were in kindergarten and Julia was talking about her new friend Ella, and Ella was talking about her new friend Julia.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_04: I had mentioned it to Allie, Josh's mom, and she's like, I think Ella is Terry and Rudy's granddaughter.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_04: And then somewhere along the line we're gonna be.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_02: They were like talking on the phone, I think, one day, and then they were like, I think it's I think they're I think they're our granddaughters.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_04: And then we're now at the point where last year we took a family cruise that consisted of all of our kids, all of your kids, your parents, your dad, and Josh's parents.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_04: So at this point we are just like one giant family.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_04: Um, I never thought that when I met you, Sarah, because I was definitely not at the stage in my life that I was looking for a new friend, that you would become one of my absolute best friends.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_04: And then Josh and Ken met and it wasn't a friendship, it was like an instant brotherhood.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_04: Ken Ken, did you need another brother?
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_01: Uh well, I like to call it a romance.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_02: A romance I like it.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_02: What you definitely didn't need another brother.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_04: No.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_04: What what's different?
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_04: I'll s I'll give this one to you, Ken.
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_04: What's different about making a friendship in your adult years rather than when you're in high school?
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I think it's you you definitely focus in on what you want in terms of that friendship, and you don't have to look very hard, work very hard.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_04: It's easy.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, we always say like when the Parkinsons come over, we don't have to clean the house.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_02: It's just it's natural.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_02: Like and because you're older, I feel like you're you're not looking for like all that glitz and glam.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_02: It's like you either like each other or you don't, and you cut out all the junk, and it's like we either get along or we don't get along.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't I agree that I'm not looking for a friend.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_02: It just kind of happens.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_02: We just gel together.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, all of us.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_01: Commonalities.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_04: And and fun.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_04: We're also we're all kind of mean to each other, make making fun of offering.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_01: The best part of the friendship.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_04: Who's the biggest pain in the butt in the whole group?
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, Josh.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_04: Josh.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_02: He should, yeah, he knows.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_04: And and who's the most difficult one when we travel?
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_04: Me.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_04: You.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_02: Oh well, that's because you have your well, that's my gluten.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_02: And I make Josh walk everywhere.
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_04: You do the gluten thing.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but that's not your fault.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_02: So who's the mo who do you think is the most difficult when we travel?
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_04: Um Josh.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, that's not really a question.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_02: Well, see, and I feel like Josh, no matter where we go, it's great.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_02: Like he's like, this is where we're going to move.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_02: Who wants to move this?
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_01: My favorite part is that no matter where we go, we're buying a place.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_04: We're buying a place there, or we're starting a business there.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and it doesn't matter if it's in the country or out of the country.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_01: No, and many times he he'll leave us back in New York and he'll live there.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like he doesn't care about what we're gonna be doing, he's gonna move there.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's it's it okay.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_04: So we've been to a lot of places.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_04: Um I could rattle them off, there's a lot of them.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_04: Best best trip we've taken as a family, or or even without the kids.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_01: Ooh.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I I want to talk about the I think it was the Canada trip.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_01: And we went camping.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_01: We went camping, so we were towing two big campers.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_01: And uh I believe we spent the night in a hotel.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_04: We did.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, I forgot about that.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_01: And uh at some point the funny things that happened.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_01: The smoke detectors went off in the middle of the night.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_01: Right, right, right.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_01: So uh everybody decided to leave but the Parkinson.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_01: So we didn't think it was real, and uh It wasn't.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_01: You the Kaplan's were right outside with everybody else, and uh I just happened to be walking around in my boxes, making sure everything was okay.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_04: So you were pretty sure we weren't gonna burn in a fire, and the rest of us had to march out in our PJs in the middle of the night.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_01: Honestly, the rest of you did what you were supposed to do.
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we didn't follow the rules.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know what our problem is, but yeah, you were kind of pissed off about the I was tired from driving with a camper.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_01: I just I didn't really want a smoke detector to go off.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I can speak for Sarah, I think, in saying that when you and Josh are towing campers, we would rather have different husbands.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_02: And backing in the camper.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, backing in the camper.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I mean, Ken's pretty good at it, but like sometimes I'm like, uh just um now that our son's older, I'm like, Lucas, you tell dad where to go, because I just can't.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_02: I don't care.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it's all backwards, you know.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_04: And and I still can't believe growing up in Brooklyn that I enjoyed so many camping vacations.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, I hate mosquitoes more than life because I'm allergic to them.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_04: But like, I really love those camping trips.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_04: But but hold on.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_04: The second thing about Canada, you said two funny stories.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_04: I thought that was funny.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_02: And we got the Ubers to go to dinner.
• 7:09
  unknown: Oh!
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_02: You guys got like this bougie book order like Uber, and you got this like bougie like Cadillac.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_02: Cadillac.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_02: And up hold up ours.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_02: It was like an old minivan.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_02: The door's broken.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we had to climb in from the front seat.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_02: No, no offense to the man, but he had like two fingers.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_02: He was like, Yeah, two fingers.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_02: I don't even know what's happening.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_02: For the whole ride to the restaurant, we're laughing.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_04: Did you think you were being abducted?
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_02: I I think I was concerned.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_01: Was that Longhorn too?
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_04: Oh.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_04: That was a different trip.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_04: That was Washington.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_04: That was Washington, D.C.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_02: Josh walked 500 miles.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_04: Wait, Longhorn Steakhouse.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_02: Correct.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_02: Salthorn.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_02: Salthouse.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_04: There you go.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_04: I'm not a steak person, like anyway.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_04: But if I ever was questioning whether I like steak, that restaurant made me realize that I did it.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_04: Sorry, Longhorn Steak horse house horse.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_04: Whatever you are.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_04: House.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_02: We'll never go back.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it doesn't matter.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_02: Just no matter what state.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, just chill out with the salt.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_02: That was your favorite trip.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_02: My favorite trip was when we went on salts and we went to um Seattle.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_02: And not Seattle.
• 8:13
  unknown: Oh.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_02: We did Vegas.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_02: Or the mini road trip.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_02: That was fun.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_02: That was fun.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of laughing, a lot of looking at just not desert, but the lives were fun.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_04: And I remember poor Sarah.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_04: So like Sarah's not the kind of person who is like, okay, we have to eat here because they can accommodate my celiac.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_04: She'll just find something.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_04: And she's never like, oh, complaining about it.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_04: She'll find something.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my god.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_04: So we go to this fancy restaurant for dinner in Vegas.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my god.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_04: And Josh and I have been to Vegas a million times and we're like trying to show Ken and Sarah some fun places, but we tried a new restaurant and like we all got like pastas or something like substantial.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_04: And Sarah orders the scallops.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_04: And the scallops.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_04: I have to say it like, what's his name?
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_04: What's his name?
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_04: Who's the chef?
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_04: Oh god.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_04: Scallop.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_04: Scallop.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_04: Who's the chef?
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_04: That's not who I was thinking.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_02: Who's the chef?
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_04: Uh Hell's Kitchen.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I don't know if it's a little bit more.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_02: What's his name?
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_04: Ramsey.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you, scallops.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_04: So anyway, so she orders the scallops and she gets one scallop with like a little bit of lettuce.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_04: And and I just looked at her, and like here we are, like all like devouring our food.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_04: And she's looking at her single scallop and like she looks like she's gonna cry.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_04: She's like, it's okay.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_04: And then they cried after we left.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_01: We probably never told you this, but when we left, she cried all the way out.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, we couldn't find the exit out of the hotel we were staying in.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_02: I've never been to Vegas and it's like they're all attached.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_02: I said to Ken, get me out of this hotel because I need something to eat.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_02: Like I was I was oh, it was yeah.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_03: Oh no.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_02: The scallop was good.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_02: The singular scallop.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_02: The sing singular scallop.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, so you're both teachers.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_04: But Sarah, you went back to school later in life.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_04: You had already had your kids.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_04: I did.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_04: And you decided to go back to become a teacher.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_04: I did.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_04: What made you decide to do that?
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_02: I always loved children.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and when I was in high school, I really didn't know what I wanted to do.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_02: So I kind of I went to two different colleges.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_02: I have an associates in one thing, I have my bachelor's in a different thing.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_02: Never used either of them.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_02: Um we got married pretty young and had our kids pretty young.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_02: And I just always loved being with them.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_02: I stayed home with them.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_02: And then after they were going to school, I became like, all right, what am I gonna do now?
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_02: So I became a TA and I started working in a preschool for special ed students.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, I really love this.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, I can do this.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_02: So I remember bringing up to him, I was probably in my late 30s, and I was like, I think I'm gonna go back for my master's, and he was like, Okay.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_04: That was right before COVID.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_04: Right, literally, yeah.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_02: Right before COVID.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, I don't know, I haven't been in school in a really long time.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_02: So I picked the college because I was like, I want to be in person because I don't know what I'm doing.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_02: And then I started in February, COVID happened in March.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_02: So my entire master's program was online anyway.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_02: But I graduated and I've been working in a classroom since then.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_04: And you love it.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_02: I love it.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_04: Are you glad you made the decision to go back?
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_02: And the kids thought it was like the funniest thing that their mom was going back to class.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but it's so much more common now.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_04: So Ken, teaching in 2026 versus teaching when you started 20 how many years ago?
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_04: Twenty six.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_04: Twenty-six years ago.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_04: Biggest difference.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_01: Where do I begin?
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, go ahead.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um biggest difference is technology.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_01: You know, the philosophy of one-to-one um in terms of having every kid have their own computer.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know who thought that was a good idea, but it's not working.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_04: So technology is helping or hindering?
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_04: Hindering, hindering.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_04: Are there any ways that technology is helping?
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_04: From the teacher perspective.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um I haven't found it yet.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_01: Alright.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_01: I think maybe in college.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, but it but I teach middle school, so we're not teaching independent thinking anymore.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_01: Everything is asking AI.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_01: So the creativity, the imagination, all of it is kind of just dwindling.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_02: And hands-on experiences for kids, I feel like, which is what they need.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_02: They don't really get as much anymore.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_04: What about a positive change from when you first started teaching to now?
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_04: What's something that is better?
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_04: Um Yeah, I I you know, sometimes silence speaks a thousand words.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I I I got it.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_04: Uh you know, we have this conversation with a lot of our guests, the technology helping or hindering.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_04: I think if you were teaching college or graduate school, I'm sure there would be more examples of where AI and the internet and all that is is assisting rather than hindering.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_01: I like to look at it as a tool.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_01: Just like everything else is a tool.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_01: Like a textbook was a tool, uh, your notebook was a tool, but it was a piece of learning.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_01: What I find now is pretty much every kid, and really most adults, just ask AI.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_01: And there is no thinking about it.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_01: And it's no problem solving, no trying to figure it out.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_01: And I I think there's a place for that, but I don't I don't think we're developing, you know, lifelong learners anymore.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_04: Is it hard to detect when the kids hand in things that are written by AI?
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_01: No, not at all.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_04: Because you can tell it's not written in their tone.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you speak with them, you work with them in their classroom, and then you get a paper and you say, Who wrote this?
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_01: And they say, I did.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_04: Alright, so Ken, I remember sitting at your kitchen table, and you needed a name for your new home improvement business that you were going to start.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_04: You're very good at this, by the way.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_04: I am, I am.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_04: I like I like doing it.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_04: Very good.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_04: And so Leap Home Improvement was born.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_04: And tell us a little bit about what that is.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_01: Well, so first, like you said, um, we were really struggling with a name, and I wanted to incorporate the three of my children into the company name.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_01: Mainly because that's why I started the business is to continue to provide for them and make sure that Sarah and I can, you know, do those things that parents do for their kids.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_01: So I really wanted them to be the focal point.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_01: And when we sat down at the kitchen table, we were just kicking around names.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_01: Eating.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_04: And of course, yeah, jalapeno poppers, spinach dip, what else?
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_01: So we wrote out their names, Lucas, uh actually we did it in order, Ella, Abby, Lucas.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_01: We just kept looking at it, and it was like a light bulb went off for you, and you just said leap.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we needed an acronym, right?
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_04: So it's it was like what?
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, the names of all your kids, and then your life.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_01: We just put it where it's right.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_01: So we got Lucas, Ella, Abby Parkinson, that was the P, and it worked out great.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_04: And not to be corny, which I am sometimes, but it was kind of a leap into your future.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_04: Like you kind of changed your path a little bit.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_04: And so I can say from like firsthand knowledge and many beautiful things Ken has built in our house, that this man is a is a masterful carpenter.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, just like I can't.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_04: And we always talk about how like your skill with creating like pieces is like your specialty.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_04: What's the like what's the thing that you've built in your life that you were like the most proud of?
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_01: So I I mean, I would agree.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_01: I think you know, renovating and updating is awesome.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_01: But when you build a piece that's functional, but also like beautiful, it really changes the the whole dynamics of the house.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_01: And uh I was fortunate to be hired to make this uh beautiful um which very unique by the way, dog cage bar.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so so here was our problem.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_04: We have three dogs, big dogs, and big dogs, and we have three teenagers, and Josh has a lot of stuff, as do I, and there was just we run out of room, and the dog crates where they would sleep at night were enormous, and they were taking up a good part of our, you know, like eating area.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_04: And Josh and Ken, when they're together, they're always like coming up with different ways to like build, you know, change the spatial area without changing the footprint of the house.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_04: And I don't know, was it you or Josh?
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_04: You guys came up with this idea to build like the dog crate into the wall, and then in the area they wanted to put it, we had like a standalone bar.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_04: And so Ken built this piece, which I don't know if I can do this, but I'm gonna try to put a picture of it inside this podcast.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_04: And he created this bar, which is beautiful, it's all lit up and and gorgeous and quite tall.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_04: And then the dog crates are inside of the bottom of the bar.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_04: So two problems were taken care of.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_04: So we had a pretty place now to keep the dogs.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_04: The cages were so ugly, and then it's like a focal piece now.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_04: When you walk into our living room, everyone's like, oh my god, that bar is gorgeous, and like, oh wait.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, and you don't even notice the dogs are in there.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_04: You don't notice that, like the bottom is it's all dog crate.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_04: So that was so unique.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_04: But you've done some really awesome things.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_02: He's very like good at like visual.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not good at visualizing things, so like I just say whatever you think because I'm like, I don't see it.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, yeah.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's it's fun.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_01: I that's the uh the creativity is the part that I like best.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_04: But it runs in your family too.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_01: It does, yeah.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_04: Your dad, your brothers, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_04: Everybody's handy.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_01: They're handy, they're thinkers, yeah, they're planners.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_01: It's nice.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_02: And Sarah, your dad too, is very, very he likes to do like more of like small I mean he's built bigger pieces of furniture, but he likes to build all the little small trinkets.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_04: He has a little company now with the the wood stuff, right?
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_02: He likes I mean he likes to just do it more to stay out of the house and go and hide in the shed.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_02: Creative and I love his name.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, and his he's uh paperoni's woodshed wood shop.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_02: Woodshop.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because my daughter, my our middle one, yeah, um, always called him Paparoni.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_04: Paveroni.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_02: So that became his little name.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_04: I like it.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I do.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_04: I think we we have we have in front of our house a little paperonian.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we do in your house.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_04: We represent in the Kaplan household.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_04: We really do.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_02: We spread the wealth around.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_04: Um, here's a question I kind of know the answer to, but does owning a construction company mean that things get done in your house first or last?
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_02: Or never.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um that's not true.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_01: 90% done.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we like to go with the 90%.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, okay.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_01: If we if I get to 90% in my eyes, I'm done.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, so 90% is like the that's that's done for you.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_01: If I'm if I'm if I if I meet that 90%, I'm satisfied.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um some other people aren't, but yeah.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_01: But I'm I'm pretty happy that I got that far.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_02: You see the reels like on TikTok or whatever, of like the women that like they take out a drill and that scares the husband to do it.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_02: He's like, oh good, she's doing it.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, oh, 100%.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_02: She's hanging that file.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's when she grabs the ladder.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, thank you.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_04: So like trim is optional, right?
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, 100%.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, like doorknobs not necessarily needed.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_04: Sarah will do it.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_04: Sarah will do it.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_04: No, but when you're doing a job for somebody else, it's perfection, it's just your own house will come last.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_04: Right, yeah, absolutely.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_01: You get to that point where you feel like, oh, it looks good enough.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my goodness.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_04: So um, you guys have built this very big close family.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_04: What do you think you've done right?
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_04: Hmm.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, one of the things that uh sits with me is my mother always said to Sarah and I when we were raising, we're still raising our kids, that's the other thing.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_01: Get back to that in a minute.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_01: But uh she said uh it takes a village.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, definitely.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_01: So I think accepting help from other people, regardless if it's exactly your style, is really important.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_04: Your mom was one of a kind.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I would agree with her.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_01: She was she was, she was.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_04: Joan Joan passed away a couple of years ago, but she was she was incredible.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_04: Uh when our our daughters, like I said, our daughters are very good friends, and and they went away to sleepaway camp with your daughters, and there wasn't a package that was sent to the Parkinson kids that also didn't come to the Kapling kids.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_04: And to me, that's how we raised our kids too.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_04: You know, we're one big family, and it you could tell.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_04: You can tell.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_01: Well that's and that's what I mean.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_01: The village, it it's it's it's my parents, it's it's Sarah's parents, it's you folks.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's really we we don't we don't try to just go in it alone.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_04: No, no, no, no.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, I laughed at I forget if it was when Julia's car broke down and Josh wasn't around, she called you.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_02: Well when I got into an accident, I don't know where you were.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_02: You called Josh, yeah.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_02: And so that's what you do.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_02: You just yeah you like it's important to have each other.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_02: And we grew up that way, I think, too.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_02: So I think it just having like that big family has just always been in my life for sure, and his family's huge too.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_02: So it's just kind of like it's comforting.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_04: It's it is, it is.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_04: What do your kids make fun of you most for?
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_04: Oh god.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_04: I want you each to answer that question.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my goodness.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_02: Well, m the newest thing that my kids were just ha they were really killing me on yesterday is that I am asking stupid questions.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_04: That for example.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_01: Can I just say I think and I and I I'm probably not gonna be very popular with this, but they're more like mom questions.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, fine.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know, like we were walking yesterday and a car drove by and there was a man in it that looked like somebody we knew, and I was like, I said to Lucas, well, does he own one of those?
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_02: You know, this this our a friend that that we know.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_02: And he Lucas looks at me and he goes, How would I know if he owns that?
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_02: Like, why are you asking me about his car?
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know this guy.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_04: That's a mom question.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_02: That's a mom question.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_02: It's a lot of mom questions.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't know.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_02: And then they get on roll and it's just like well, it's fun to make fun of it.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_04: And what about you, Ken?
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_04: What do they make fun of you most for?
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_01: What do they not make fun of?
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_02: You're definitely the dad stance at the window, like just looking outside.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_01: Looking out, checking the rain.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_02: Like, what are the neighbors doing?
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not really sure why we do that.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_03: You're watching the rain.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_03: No, that's true.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_03: You're measuring it, you know, you want to see what's working.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_03: I like it.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_02: And they say that he doesn't laugh.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_02: So he doesn't laugh.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_01: Following up with the uh we needed this rain.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we needed this rain.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that that those are the dad comments.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_02: See, we're going to be.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_01: We actually We're in our roles.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_01: We've mastered the pair of things.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_04: What advice would you guys give to younger Ken and Sarah, just getting married, Ken and Sarah?
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_04: What advice would you give to those people?
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_01: So not to be kind of uh corny, but it's okay.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_04: Corny's alright.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_01: Alright.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_01: Do it again.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_02: We have fun.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_02: Like we just we laugh about things.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_01: We're happy the way we're happy the way life's turning out.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_01: We're very happy with it.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_02: Embracing things just when they come to you.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_02: Like I think I would say like tell us then, like, just let it go with it.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_02: Go with it.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_02: Roll with it.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_02: Which is kind of how we are now.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, I think sometimes the bad stuff, even though we don't want to deal with it and then we'd rather be without it, it's like the bridge to the next happy thing.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_04: Of course.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_04: And if you don't go through the garbage, then you don't appreciate, you know, exactly the flowers.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_04: Definitely.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_04: Or the jalapeno poppers.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, those are really good.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_04: They are.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_04: Now I think we may have to make it.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_04: And again, for the record, who makes the jalapeno poppers?
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_02: Sarah.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_04: Just just it's on the record now, Josh.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_04: Just put just putting it out there.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_04: Alright, are you guys ready to play a little laugh, love, law?
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_02: Of course.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_04: Now, I know Sarah knows how to play this because Sarah watches every episode religiously.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_04: Love that.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_04: Kenneth?
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_04: We're going to teach you how to play.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_04: I can't wait.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_04: All right.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_04: So there are three paddles here: laugh, love, and law.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_04: I'm going to give you some random topics.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_04: Actually, Sarah, why don't you explain the game, please?
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_02: So if it's something that makes you laugh, you're going to hold up the laugh sign.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_02: If it's something that you love, like me, you're going to hold up the laugh sign.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_02: If it's something that we don't like, law sign.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_04: Alright, but here's the one caveat because you're together.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_04: We have to agree.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_01: There's only um three paddles.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_01: One of each, so I have to like You have to agree.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_02: You just have to do what you normally do.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_04: And it's whatever she says.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_04: So if you feel differently than Sarah, it's whatever Sarah thinks.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_04: You got it.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_04: This is my first one, and I love it already.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_04: Loading the dishwasher.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_01: Oh gosh.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_01: Ew, like who Naroff like to do it.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_02: And but there is a direction on how to do it correctly.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_02: There is kids choose not to follow the direction.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_01: So one of the advantages of having children is so that they can do some basic tasks at home.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_01: This is a task we still have not mastered.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm loading it.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_01: We have three kids, but we cannot regularly get them to load it.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so they'll see a sink full of dishes and an empty dishwasher, and they might think about it, but not until somebody says, Could you load the dishwasher?
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's a good thing.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_02: I'm usually like, well, I emptied it.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's the easy part.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_02: It's a clean and nobody cares.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_02: Nobody likes to do this.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_04: Separate blankets.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 25:33
  unknown: Go ahead.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_02: He doesn't use a blanket.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_02: He doesn't use a blanket.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, right, right, right.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_02: Because you're always having to buy it.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_04: Blankets have to be separate.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_02: Like you don't share.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_04: No sharing dessert, no sharing blankets.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_04: Snoring.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_02: Oh gosh.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_02: Who loves snoring?
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_02: It is kind of funny though.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_02: That's how I discovered that he had sleep apnea.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_04: Little CPAP machine.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_04: Never hurt anybody.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_01: I thought we weren't going to talk personal.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, no.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_02: Alright.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_02: We'll say snoring is terrible.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_04: Bad.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_04: Reclining in aeroplane seat.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_02: Us or the person in front of us.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_02: If it's me, it's okay.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_02: But if it's the person in front of me.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_04: So I think it's got to be universal.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_04: Like if everybody's reclining, it's fine.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_04: But if like everyone's upright and the guy in front of you is like, shh, that's ridiculous.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_02: It's a little tough.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_02: It is, yeah.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_02: But I mean, you know, like it's kind of like one of those things where if you're traveling, especially like on a plane for a long period of time, like you have to recline.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_02: So you can't really, we have to kind of let the person do that kind of thing.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you are a big recliner.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you recline in the car scene.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_01: We're only in it for five minutes.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_01: I like that too, though.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_02: I I want to be comfortable.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_02: I'd rather be close to the dashboard and recline back.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_02: Alright, all right.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_01: Just leave the seat alone.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_04: So yeah, so um, okay.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_04: And well, how about coordinated family photos?
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_04: Like where everybody's wearing the same blue shirt.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_04: Alright, yeah.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_04: Alright, that's cool.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_02: How do you feel about that?
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_04: Well, I mean, I think it's funny.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_04: Like when you like to laugh at it, we shouldn't have to be like.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, like to laugh at it.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_04: Like when we we we wore shirts for Josh's birthday on the cruise and they all had his face on it.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_04: That was funny.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_02: It's funny, but like if you're like doing a formal picture and you're all wearing like that.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_01: A nice portrait is is is awesome.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_01: But getting to that point, oh, it's a nightmare.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_01: Who's upset with the colour?
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_01: Collar to wear who's upset with the outfit.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_01: Who doesn't want to smile?
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_02: Who didn't need to smile to begin with?
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_04: I know, they don't want to smile.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_04: But like the pictures where like the mother and the daughter are wearing the same dress is a little ridiculous.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_04: That's my opinion.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_04: Alright, Ken, since you are the um builder of all things, I'm gonna ask you to work the capsule confessions machine.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_04: All right, we need three capsules.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_01: I gotta get all three.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_04: You do.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_04: You do.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_01: So something somebody told me I have to jiggle.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_01: Jiggle.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_04: Yep.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_01: Which, you know, yeah.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_01: That's not difficult.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_04: No.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_04: We're gonna keep a PG, Ken.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_04: Good job, Ken.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_04: We did it.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, first job.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_04: All right.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_04: All right.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_04: Do you want to answer it now?
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_04: And then we'll go back for two and three.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't know.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_01: Sarah's very, very anxious to have that.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_01: So go for it.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_01: No, no.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_02: How come you give it a control three?
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_02: I was holding it.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_02: I actually can't open it.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_02: You do it.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_02: Seriously?
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_02: My hands don't work.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_04: Oh no, you just have my 50.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_04: Hi, what do we got?
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_02: Says.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_02: What are you most excited about right now?
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_02: Kenneth.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_01: Right now.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_01: Right now.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_01: Right at this moment.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right at this moment.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_01: Uh summer vacation.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_04: All right, yeah.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_04: It's almost over.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_04: Shh.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_04: Alright.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_01: No, we have until the 21st of September.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_01: No pumpkin spice until then.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_01: I agree with you about that.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_04: They should and Halloween decorations do not belong until after school starts.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_02: There's so many rules about all of the.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_01: Can we just take one minute?
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_01: I have to go to Home Depot multiple times a day.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_01: I think those workers should put in a class action lawsuit.
• 29:11
  unknown: Yeah.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_01: That they have to listen to the skeleton black at them.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_01: For eight hours a day.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_01: It's ridiculous.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_01: That is horrible.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_01: I go in there for five minutes to grab some screws or a drill bit, and there's a guy that's loading a shelf listening to the 12-foot.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_01: Who has a 12-foot skeleton?
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_04: Weird people.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_01: 12 foot making these noises all day.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_02: What about the ones that jump out at you?
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I don't think it jumps out.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_04: You know what I saw at Michaels?
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_04: Michaels has the.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_04: You ever see Little Shabbahara's?
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_04: They have the Audrey 2 plant that opens its mouth.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_04: Kind of want it.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_01: That is kind of cool.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_02: But that's again, you can have it.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_02: For us at home.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, exactly.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_02: Why do we have to have it out now?
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, next week they'll have Christmas trees out.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_04: No, no, that's the Christmas trees are right like the day after Halloween.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's November 1st.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_02: But not gonna lie, I did get an autumn candle, but I told I told Ella we cannot light this until.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_04: I'm not ready for Mariah Carries.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_04: It's time.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_04: Not yet.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_04: Not yet.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_02: Alright, go ahead, Kenneth.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_02: Wiggle.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_02: Jiggle.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_02: Jiggle, jiggle.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_01: Whatever.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_01: Whatever you guys say.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_04: Get a good one.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, good job.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, she's gotta read it.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_04: Just doing my job.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_02: Who believed in you before you believed in yourself?
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_04: Ooh, a cheesy one.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_02: I like it.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_02: Like it.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_02: You want me to answer it?
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_02: I do want you to answer that.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, cheesy, but it's so true.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_04: You guys are like cheesy, mushy, icky.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_04: It's cute though.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_02: She always thinks that I could do things.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I don't know.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_04: You can do it, Sarah.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_02: It's so cheesy.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_02: I mean that and my parents, of course.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_02: I know my parents always believed in me, even when I didn't know what the heck I was doing.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_04: Shout out to Rudy and Terry.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_04: Love you guys.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_04: Alright, go ahead.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_02: Alrighty.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_04: He's pretty good though at the jiggle wiggle thing.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_01: This is kind of weird.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_01: This one's not going to be a good one.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_02: No, we didn't jiggle it enough.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_01: Now the coin's stuck.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my word.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_02: This is responculous.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_02: You're gonna break the machine.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna need some technical help.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's okay.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_04: This is when we go this is when we go off camera.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_04: Eric is the master of the jiggle wiggle machine.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_01: Two out of three ain't bad.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_01: That is our saying.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna make you a t-shirt that says that.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_04: Two out of three ain't bad.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_04: No, Eric is the master of the jiggle wiggle machine.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, you're throwing balls.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_02: I'm reading it again.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, you're doing a great job.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_02: Oh god.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_02: What is one quality you value most in a friend?
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um loyalty.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_01: Honesty.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_02: We get that both from you.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we do.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_04: Now you're being cheesy to me, and I love it.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_04: Alright, Kenneth, I'm gonna say I'll give you like a seven and a half out of ten on the jiggling and the wiggling.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_04: Pretty good.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_04: Sarah, excellent job on reading the question.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you very much.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_04: Alright, and now we are going to play our last game.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_04: Ooh, a new video.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_04: Uh yep.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_04: It's called Objectively Speaking.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_04: I'm going to show you.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_04: Don't really look at it.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_04: I'm just showing everybody else.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_04: So it's a big box full of random crap.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_04: Now you're both going to close your eyes.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_04: One of you are going to pick an item out.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_04: Now you each have a piece of paper and a note card.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_04: And you are going to independently write down what this object reminds you of.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_04: It can be anything.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_04: And I want to see how close your answers are to one another.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_04: Alright, Sarah, I know you'll be the picking, so close your eyes and pick.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_01: You really had to go that deep?
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_02: I did.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_02: Alright.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_02: What does this remind us of?
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_02: Are we putting it on the card?
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, you gotta write it on the card.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_04: You gotta write it on your note card.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, wait, and we're not comparing answers?
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_04: But what did you get?
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_04: Here, I'll hold it up.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_04: Sorry.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, so it's a Diet Coke hair clip.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_04: I told you it's a box of random things.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_04: See?
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_04: Like that.
• 33:03
  unknown: Okay.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, beautiful.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_01: That really fits in nicely.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it does.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_04: I think I know the answer to this question.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_04: And on the count of three.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I know.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_02: That's why I had to dig down to this.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_04: On the count of three, hold up your cards to that to that middle camera right there and show them.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_04: Ready?
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_04: One, two, three.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I wrote mine really small.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_04: If both of those cards don't say Heather, I'm gonna be disappointed.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_02: Heather, Heather.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, see.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_04: This is awesome.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_02: That was the easiest one.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that was probably the easiest one here.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_04: Actually, Julia bought this for me.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_04: And I love it.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_04: But I'm trying to think of an occasion that I can actually wear a Diet Coke clip in my hair.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yesterday I was at the store and they had Diet Coke dangling earrings.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_02: And I picked them up.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_02: I said to Ella, I so barely want to buy these for Heather, but would she ever do it?
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_04: It's like a good, it's like a good idea conceptually.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_04: What am I doing with that?
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe Halloween.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, maybe Halloween.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_04: But now when you see random things you might want to buy me, we'll just put them in the objectively speaking box.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_04: Alright, I have uh I have sweatshirts for you guys.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you know, the left love law hoodies.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, we got that one.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_01: We love merch.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and then we had to change it up because I wanted the zippies.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's one of the baby.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_04: I love it.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_04: I love the zippies.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_04: Um Ken.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_04: This was so much fun.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_04: And thank you for joining me on this couch.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_04: And I will see you on your couch in a few hours later.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_01: Can't wait.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you guys for tuning in to Laugh Love Love.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_04: We'll be back next week with another episode.