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- 0:00[Synthetic version of Lam Hoang's voice]
- 0:07This is Business Podcasting: Production Strategy, produced by WorkHacker.
- 0:13I'm your host, Lam Hoang, co-founder of WorkHacker.
- 0:16You're hearing a synthetic version of my voice.
- 0:19Each episode I take one question about making a podcast for your business,
- 0:23tell you what I would do and how solid the evidence is.
- 0:32Today's question: is a podcast still worth starting?
- 0:36More than a third of American adults who listen to
- 0:39or watch podcasts say they started in the past year.
- 0:43That's from an August 2026 survey by the trade group Sounds Profitable.
- 0:48But the share of adults listening held steady.
- 0:51So is it worth it?
- 0:53Yes, if two things are true for your business.
- 0:56There's a specific group whose trust you want.
- 0:59And you have something to tell them they can't easily get elsewhere.
- 1:03Hoping for a big audience, or ad money?
- 1:06Then don't start for that.
- 1:07Ad buyers usually look for far bigger audiences than a typical show has.
- 1:12And it isn't too late.
- 1:13The listeners are still there, and the field is less crowded than it sounds.
- 1:18Here's what you'll leave with.
- 1:20Whether people still listen, and how crowded the field really is.
- 1:24Then what ads would need from you, and what a podcast is good at.
- 1:28First: is anyone still listening?
- 1:31Yes, in steady numbers.
- 1:33More than half of the adults in that survey had
- 1:36listened to or watched a podcast in the past month.
- 1:39That's within a point of the year before.
- 1:41Pew Research Center sells nothing to podcasters, so it's an outside check.
- 1:46In 2025, Pew found listening up a little since 2022.
- 1:50So podcasting isn't dying.
- 1:53It isn't booming either.
- 1:54After two decades of growth, Sounds Profitable calls the audience large and stable.
- 2:00A new show can't count on a rising tide.
- 2:03What is changing is who's listening.
- 2:05The survey's own word for it: the audience keeps refreshing.
- 2:09That's good news for a new show.
- 2:11It isn't only chasing people whose habits are already set.
- 2:15Second: aren't there millions of podcasts already?
- 2:19Millions are listed, but far fewer are still publishing.
- 2:23In October 2026, one podcast search engine listed
- 2:26about three point eight million podcasts worldwide.
- 2:30Only about one in seven had put out an episode that year.
- 2:34And a single episode was enough to count.
- 2:37Fewer new ones are starting, too.
- 2:39In the first half of 2026, worldwide launches hit
- 2:42their lowest first-half total in eight years.
- 2:46That's one podcast-data company's count, reported in July 2026.
- 2:51Yearly figures for new listings point the same way.
- 2:54Some new ones aren't made by people at all.
- 2:57One tally of new podcasts in September 2026
- 3:00found that about one in four were AI-made fakes.
- 3:04That's its own judgment.
- 3:05And it counts feeds, not listening.
- 3:08Using AI isn't the problem.
- 3:10Putting in less work because you used it is.
- 3:14A show with real direction is easier to tell apart.
- 3:17What is a new show really up against, then?
- 3:20In Sounds Profitable's survey, the typical monthly
- 3:23listener regularly follows two or three podcasts.
- 3:26You're competing for one of a few spots.
- 3:29Not with millions of shows.
- 3:31That means being someone's best show on something specific they care about.
- 3:36Take a made-up company that repairs commercial kitchen equipment.
- 3:39A general business show would join one of the biggest categories listed.
- 3:43Now picture a show for restaurant owners about keeping a busy kitchen running.
- 3:48It has far fewer rivals for their time.
- 3:51Third: can ad money make it worth it?
- 3:54Don't count on it.
- 3:55The money itself is real.
- 3:57By the ad industry's own count, American podcast
- 4:00ad revenue grew about eighteen percent in 2025.
- 4:04But that's a market total.
- 4:06It says nothing about what a new show will earn.
- 4:09So what does a show need to get some of it?
- 4:12One podcast ad company's guide from July 2026 gives the usual bars.
- 4:18The lowest is for automatic ads.
- 4:20Those need about a thousand monthly listeners.
- 4:23Ad networks typically look for one to five thousand
- 4:26downloads an episode, in its first thirty days.
- 4:29Direct sponsors usually want more, for a general-interest show.
- 4:33The guide adds that niche business-to-business,
- 4:36finance or professional audiences can land sponsors far earlier.
- 4:40Now set that against one large podcast host's
- 4:43own figures, across every kind of show.
- 4:46In September 2026, its top five percent of shows started
- 4:50at about a thousand first-week downloads an episode.
- 4:54A week isn't a month.
- 4:55It's a loose comparison.
- 4:57Outside that niche exception, ad money still needs
- 5:00an audience far above what a typical show gets.
- 5:03So plan the show around a different job.
- 5:06Any sponsor is a bonus.
- 5:08Last: if not ad money, what's a podcast good for?
- 5:12Depth with the right people.
- 5:14As the episode on starting a podcast put it, a business doesn't need a crowd.
- 5:19Podcast maker Jay Acunzo said in 2018 that
- 5:22podcasts suit depth and resonance, not reach.
- 5:26In his words, "a podcast is intimacy that scales."
- 5:30One podcasting coach asked in May 2026 whether
- 5:33the world really needs another podcast.
- 5:36Not another general one, he said.
- 5:38His better question: would a specific group of people be
- 5:42better served if you consistently shared what you've learned?
- 5:45He says a podcast can build trust before the first sales conversation.
- 5:50It can help referrals understand how you think.
- 5:52How much is that trust worth?
- 5:55Here, confidence runs ahead of measurement.
- 5:58One podcast production company surveyed eight hundred
- 6:01and sixty-one marketers in May 2026, mostly in Europe.
- 6:06Almost half of those using podcasts rated the return as strong.
- 6:10The report itself says those ratings often rest on engagement, not sales.
- 6:15About one in six of those marketers tracked the return formally.
- 6:19So treat the confidence you hear about business podcasts as a feeling.
- 6:24Not a measurement.
- 6:25If you start one, take your own measurement from the first inquiry.
- 6:29The podcast producer Niall Mackay's advice is to ask
- 6:32everyone who gets in touch how they heard about you.
- 6:35Then note whether the show came up.
- 6:38Later episodes dig into what a show pays back in clients and money.
- 6:42So should you start one?
- 6:44If you know whose trust you want and can tell
- 6:46them what they can't easily get elsewhere, yes.
- 6:50Timing matters less than those two things.
- 6:52Don't wait for a better moment.
- 6:54Want a crowd, or ad money?
- 6:57That's the wrong reason to start.
- 6:59Before you decide, try this.
- 7:01Search the subject you'd cover in a podcast app.
- 7:04Play a few of the shows that come up.
- 7:06Which ones have published in the last few months?
- 7:09Then ask what you could tell their listeners that they don't.
- 7:12Not ready to start your own?
- 7:14The next episode asks: should you make a podcast, be a guest or advertise?
- 7:19And that's it for today's question.
- 7:21Thanks for listening.
- 7:23The written version is on workhacker.com,
- 7:25with every source, and a place to send us your questions.
- 7:29And if you want a podcast like this for your business, WorkHacker makes them.
- 7:33See you next time.