Latest / Barking Mad Podcast / Trends to Watch in 2025, Part 3: Biotic Ingredients & Gut Health
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- 0:19Jordan Tyler: Happy New Year and welcome back to our top trends to watch in
- 0:232025, in which we're sharing expert insights and opinions about the most
- 0:29influential trends happening today in the pet nutrition space and how pet parents
- 0:34can stay informed and engaged as these trends evolve this year and beyond.
- 0:41In today's episode, we're going microscopic.
- 0:44Not quite honey, I shrunk the kids, but more Ms.
- 0:47Frizzle style shrinkage as we go inside the body to learn all about the tiny
- 0:53microorganisms in our gut and how they influence the overall health and wellness
- 0:58of not just us, but our dogs and cats too.
- 1:02Keeping this intro short because I'm really excited to get into this trench.
- 1:06So without further ado, let's get into it.
- 1:09Welcome to barking mad, a podcast by BSM partners.
- 1:14I'm your host, Jordan Tyler.
- 1:18So far for this week's mini series, we've talked a ton about sustainability,
- 1:23and it's obvious that sustainable initiatives are huge in PET right now,
- 1:27as well as in many other consumer goods categories like in human food, health
- 1:31and beauty, and plenty of others.
- 1:34But let's take that term, sustainability, and flip it on its head for a minute.
- 1:40So far we've been thinking about sustainability in terms
- 1:43of environmental impact.
- 1:45But what about in terms of longevity?
- 1:47Like how can we sustain our pets lifespans, but more importantly
- 1:52their health spans, for longer?
- 1:55Adding not only years to their lives, but vitality to their day to days.
- 2:01This idea of the health span is picking up speed as we, for ourselves and
- 2:05for our pets, increasingly seek ways to not only stay alive for longer,
- 2:10but to stay healthier for longer.
- 2:14There are a number of individual trends under this theme.
- 2:18New focus on the health span, but we'll be focusing on one category today
- 2:22that is evolving rapidly and promising widespread benefits across the body.
- 2:28This is Biotic Ingredients.
- 2:32Biotics are tiny microorganisms responsible for moderating bacteria in
- 2:36our gut, feeding the good bacteria and staving off the bad, while also improving
- 2:41the gut barrier to prevent things like a leaky gut, which has been associated
- 2:45with a range of subsequent health issues.
- 2:48You've probably heard the terms prebiotics and probiotics,
- 2:53but what about postbiotics?
- 2:56To get a better understanding of what each of these biotics does inside
- 3:00of a pet's body, and in our own bodies, really, we spoke with Dr.
- 3:05Mark Franklin.
- 3:06Global technical lead of additives for the pet and lifestyle divisions of Cargill.
- 3:12Mark Franklin: So, in, in simple terms, I just describe it as prebiotics
- 3:16really serve as food for those live microorganisms that are in the gut, right?
- 3:21They're typically fiber sources, carbohydrate sources, and are
- 3:24preferentially used by the good guys, the good bugs in the gut.
- 3:28So, you know, they would be consumed, those bugs in the gut
- 3:31would produce metabolites as they consume these prebiotics.
- 3:35Thanks.
- 3:36Probiotics, on the other hand, of course, would be supplying those live bugs.
- 3:40We want those live bugs in the gut.
- 3:41We want them to eat the prebiotics in the gut and produce
- 3:45metabolites and have an effect.
- 3:47Postbiotics really kind of shortcuts all that.
- 3:51And so, we do that fermentation outside of the animal.
- 3:56Where we take a probiotic organism and we feed it and we have the
- 3:59production of those metabolites.
- 4:01Jordan Tyler: According to Dr.
- 4:02Franklin, new products with a biotics claim launched between
- 4:062021 and 2023 were up by more than 300 percent on a three year basis.
- 4:13And when you start to understand the widespread benefits a healthy
- 4:16gut microbiome has on total health and wellness, it's easy to see why.
- 4:22Mark Franklin: And that microbiome sort of has a master control, particularly
- 4:25that gut microbiome has a master control.
- 4:27How does that affect cognition, mood, skin, all those different
- 4:32axes that we talk about, right?
- 4:34Gut, brain, skin, even reproductive tract, right?
- 4:38So, as we start to uncover some more of these things and look at
- 4:41the synergies, I think there's a huge potential upside for us.
- 4:46Jordan Tyler: We also spoke with Dr.
- 4:47Steve Lerner, senior scientific and business advisor for NovoNessus, a global
- 4:52biosolutions company formed through the recent merger of ingredient manufacturers
- 4:57Christian Hansen and Novozymes.
- 5:00As Dr.
- 5:01Lerner pointed out, these bacteria have been around for longer than
- 5:06just about anything here on Earth.
- 5:09And with modern science, we're able to harness the power of
- 5:12these microscopic organisms to benefit gut health across species.
- 5:18including for our dogs and cats.
- 5:20Steve Lerner: I'm very fond of saying that bacteria have been on Earth for about 3.
- 5:242 billion years, and they have co evolved with all higher life forms.
- 5:30So we may believe that we carry them around with us.
- 5:34Us 40 trillion of them, but they simply find us a very elegant transport system.
- 5:39We keep them by and large in the dark with low oxygen, very well fed.
- 5:44We share them with reckless abandon among ourselves.
- 5:47And if you're an animal, you put them back out into the environment and they,
- 5:51let's say a nutrient rich material.
- 5:56That some of us with pets pick up from our yard, but you know how this is, right?
- 6:00Jordan Tyler: That was maybe the greatest euphemism I've ever heard.
- 6:04Now, according to Dr.
- 6:05Lerner, novenesis owns the largest commercial bank of bacterial strains.
- 6:10And it really is the strain that matters most when deciding which bacteria to
- 6:15implement for specific biotic benefits.
- 6:19Steve Lerner: The probiotic organisms available to us, by federal law,
- 6:25everyone who puts them into a package must provide the genus and
- 6:30species of those organisms only.
- 6:34But in fact, It is strain of organism, which is an individual organism, and all
- 6:42of its trillions and trillions of nearly identical clonal copies that's important.
- 6:47So let me give you an analogy to illustrate this.
- 6:51All dogs on planet Earth are canis lupus.
- 6:57That's their genus and species.
- 6:59Now, we give dogs a subspecies designation of familiaris, because, by and large,
- 7:05we control the breeding of dogs.
- 7:07When you consider the dogs, Canis lupus, and now you want, An
- 7:15individual dog for a particular task.
- 7:20Let's say this task is helping a team of rescuers in the Swiss Alps that are out
- 7:27trying to find skiers that have gone down, perhaps buried in deep snow, and need
- 7:33to be pulled out on a sled to be saved.
- 7:37And they want to have a dog with them that can help them find those individuals.
- 7:43Well, a choice might be a St.
- 7:45Bernard.
- 7:46A choice might be a Bernese Mountain Dog.
- 7:49They're tall, double coat of hair, they love being in the cold, they're
- 7:54usually very obedient, they're usually relatively stoic dogs, and maybe that
- 8:01Canis lupus would be a good choice.
- 8:03Or, another Canis lupus is a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel, or a Chihuahua.
- 8:10They are the same exact genus and species as St.
- 8:14Bernard's and Bernie's Mountain Dogs.
- 8:16But you might immediately agree with me that some of the genetic
- 8:20gifts conferred upon the St.
- 8:23Bernard or Bernese Mountain Dog to make it better suited for the task at hand improve
- 8:32its chances of success versus Cavalier, King Charles, Spaniels, and Chihuahuas.
- 8:38The same exact scenario is true for Microbiological organisms, all Bacillus
- 8:46subtilis organisms are the same genus and species by definition, but they vary
- 8:53in their genetic gifts significantly.
- 8:57Some are better at producing digestive enzymes.
- 9:00Some are better at producing antimicrobial peptides.
- 9:03Some are better at germinating out of spores.
- 9:06They become active cells, whatever you can measure.
- 9:10There's variation based on genetic gifts.
- 9:14And we at NovoNessus have 90, 000 strains in our strain bank.
- 9:20We identify individuals based on their genetic merit for a particular purpose.
- 9:26We then test the expression of those genes, that's called phenotype,
- 9:31in a various set of assays.
- 9:34We call that high phenotype.
- 9:35throughput screening to know on which sources of energy will they survive.
- 9:40Will they survive going through an acidified gastrointestinal tract?
- 9:44Will they act in a probiotic manner?
- 9:48And then most importantly, will they play well with other organisms
- 9:51that we might want to include?
- 9:53Jordan Tyler: Now Arm Hammer, yes, your favorite baking soda brand,
- 9:58also has a robust collection of probiotic strains, according to Dr.
- 10:02Sangeeta Jalookar, microbiologist, immunologist, and senior technical service
- 10:08manager for Arm Hammer Animal Nutrition.
- 10:11Sangita Jalukar: We leverage our extensive research on strain selection.
- 10:14So on the probiotic side, we have a rich library of about
- 10:1880, 000 probiotic strains.
- 10:21So we leverage our research on the strain availability, uh, growth
- 10:25conditions in our manufacturing process, our proprietary yeast processing
- 10:30technology to develop these biotics.
- 10:33Our yeast derived pre and post biotics are supported by over 50 plus publications.
- 10:39So we, um, have a rich data set showing the benefits of our pre and post biotics.
- 10:45Jordan Tyler: It's also interesting to note what is motivating the growth
- 10:47of biotic supplements for pets.
- 10:50Marlena Hidley, Director of Marketing and Innovation for Arm Hammer
- 10:55Specialty Products, mentioned much of the interest can be attributed
- 10:59to a shift toward preventive
- 11:01Marlena Hidlay: healthcare for pets.
- 11:03Today's consumers are taking proactive measures to maintain
- 11:06their pet's healthspan.
- 11:08We like to use the word healthspan because they're truly looking to improve
- 11:11the quality of life of their animal.
- 11:14And we see consumers turning to food and treats to enhance the
- 11:17nutritional value of their pet's diets.
- 11:20We also see gut health claims really rising in popularity with pet parents.
- 11:25A recent Nielsen data report showed that product sales with gut health
- 11:29claims were up 213 percent year over year, which is tremendous.
- 11:34But it's not surprising, given the latest FMCG Guru's report, which noted
- 11:39that 56 percent of pet parents seek products that help aid digestive health.
- 11:44So it is quite aligned with the market trends that we see.
- 11:47And with the humanization of pets trend expanding, we do
- 11:51see a clear focus on nutrition.
- 11:54Sangita Jalukar: From a more technical perspective, I think one
- 11:57of the reasons why the use of biotic ingredients is gaining popularity is
- 12:02because of the general accepted theory and understanding that many health
- 12:08challenges in pets originate in the gut.
- 12:10So any gut imbalance can lead to food intolerances, allergies,
- 12:16digestive health challenges.
- 12:18Poor gut microbiome can lead to chronic conditions such as IBD or obesity also.
- 12:23So, as the demand for pet foods with digestive health benefits continues
- 12:28to rise, I think pet parents, pet food and supplement manufacturers
- 12:32are seeing evidence based solutions to support animal wellness.
- 12:36Pet parents, I think, use and have experienced the power of
- 12:40biotic supplementation, and they want to extend that same benefit
- 12:44to their furry companions.
- 12:46And that makes sense because there is a 63 percent similarity in microbiota
- 12:52between dogs and humans compared to 33 percent for pigs and mice.
- 12:56So it is natural for pet parents to seek and extend that benefit from
- 13:04a more healthier microbiome and biotics are known to provide that.
- 13:08Jordan Tyler: Interestingly, Dr.
- 13:10Lerner pointed out pet parents who purchase biotic supplements for
- 13:14themselves are more likely to purchase them for their furry companions.
- 13:18Steve Lerner: When you look at who among our pet parents is providing these type
- 13:26of supplements to their fur babies, uh, we see a significantly greater
- 13:33proportion of pet parents who themselves are taking probiotics and are perceiving
- 13:40the benefit of taking it themselves, well, if it's good for them, then it's
- 13:45unethical to not provide it to your pet.
- 13:48Now, maybe unethical is a strong term, but you get my point.
- 13:52So I believe we're going to see this continued positive trend.
- 13:56I believe every individual, every day, should be on an effective probiotic.
- 14:02That you, your family, your loved ones, your children, and all of the animals
- 14:07in our care, every day, should be on something that positively impacts
- 14:13the micro Organismal life in their bodies, their microbiota, and you
- 14:18know I believe it's in probiotics.
- 14:21Jordan Tyler: So there you have Dr.
- 14:22Lerner's recommendation.
- 14:24While health savvy consumers are picking up on these benefits and applying them
- 14:29to their pets, education remains a key opportunity to help more pet parents
- 14:34understand the benefits of biotics.
- 14:37Marlena Hidlay: Well, I think there's certainly room to educate consumers on
- 14:40the benefits of biotics for their pets.
- 14:42Interestingly, a lot of these consumers are taking probiotics themselves or
- 14:48familiar at least with pre and post biotics, but only 22 percent actually
- 14:53recognize the health benefit of probiotics for their companion animals.
- 14:57So really a true push for education becomes really important here.
- 15:03Jordan Tyler: Emerging ingredients like biotics aren't the only thing that
- 15:06could benefit from consumer education and companies are having to learn a
- 15:11thing or two as well, particularly when it comes to the fourth trend
- 15:15we'll be discussing as part of our Trends to Watch in 2025 series.
- 15:19Let's not get too ahead of ourselves, though.
- 15:23First, it's time to unshrink ourselves and wrap up the episode.
- 15:27As evidenced through the topic experts we heard from today,
- 15:30and coming back to what Dr.
- 15:32Lerner said about bacteria being here for 3.
- 15:352 billion years, it seems we're starting to catch up to what these
- 15:39microorganisms have known all along.
- 15:41That a healthy gut microbiome is key to overall health and wellness.
- 15:47And just as we can leverage biotic ingredients to improve our own
- 15:50gut health, we're now discovering the benefits of biotics on our
- 15:54furry family members as well.
- 15:56Tomorrow, we'll explore our fourth trend of 2025.
- 16:01Sustainable pet food and treat packaging.
- 16:04You won't want to miss a lively discussion about how the pet industry is working
- 16:08to reduce the environmental pawprint of its packaging, as well as a critical
- 16:13analysis of our current recycling infrastructure, and a conversation
- 16:17about the barriers currently standing between pet parents and more readily
- 16:22recyclable pet food and treat bags.
- 16:25Until then, thank you for tuning in to Barking Mad, a podcast by BSM Partners.
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- 16:532025 miniseries, as well as future episodes on pet care innovation,
- 16:59sustainability, and other hard hitting topics you won't want to miss.
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- 17:17Happy New Year and see you next time.