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- 0:02Speaker 1: This can almost be a theme song for us man.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Yes, stuck in the rounds to the left of me,
- 0:08Speaker 2: jokers to the right.
- 0:09Speaker 1: Let me give you the logic, Let me the logic
- 0:11Speaker 1: for this.
- 0:11Speaker 3: That My mentor Greg Anderson used to say that all
- 0:16Speaker 3: the time when.
- 0:16Speaker 1: I'm back in the day us right.
- 0:18Speaker 3: Yeah, he used to say that all the time. And
- 0:20Speaker 3: it does. It does kind of fit these days.
- 0:23Speaker 1: Yes, it does.
- 0:23Speaker 2: Now here's here's the reason. There's always a reason. That
- 0:25Speaker 2: is the great Jerry Rafferty. Everybody remembers Baker Street, great
- 0:28Speaker 2: hit fro nineteen seventy eight. Six years earlier, he was
- 0:31Speaker 2: in a band with some of his Scottish mates called
- 0:33Speaker 2: Steeler's Wheel and that was stuck in the middle with you,
- 0:36Speaker 2: Jerry Rafferty would have been like seventy nine today, passed
- 0:39Speaker 2: away back in twenty eleven, Boom, there we are in
- 0:41Speaker 2: a good Thursday morning to you, buddy.
- 0:44Speaker 3: I could have had that, that could have had that
- 0:45Speaker 3: song in my head when I left the studio yesterday,
- 0:48Speaker 3: I got into a knockdown drag out with the caller
- 0:51Speaker 3: Tim from Plano and let me let me walk me
- 0:55Speaker 3: through it. Well, it's an interesting issue because let me
- 0:59Speaker 3: tell you why, I mean, no, we got into it,
- 1:00Speaker 3: I mean, and I went back to listen because there
- 1:03Speaker 3: were a few people. Don't you love when the audience
- 1:06Speaker 3: criticizes you or me? And I've heard you shut down
- 1:11Speaker 3: a caller, Mark Davis will shut down a caller with
- 1:13Speaker 3: the best of them, but they get mad, Oh you
- 1:16Speaker 3: interrupt them too much. And what's typically happening is the
- 1:20Speaker 3: caller isn't letting us talk. And I listened to Tim
- 1:24Speaker 3: from playing, I listened to the call. I went back
- 1:25Speaker 3: and it was over the attacks on Erica Kirk. So
- 1:28Speaker 3: this is a very personal issue for me, and it's
- 1:31Speaker 3: a very sensitive issue, and I want to share something
- 1:34Speaker 3: really fascinating that just unfolded minutes ago with somebody I
- 1:37Speaker 3: was speaking to about Erica and the death threats that
- 1:40Speaker 3: she got, which led her to have to cancel her
- 1:42Speaker 3: appearance with JD Vance the other night at the University
- 1:45Speaker 3: of Georgia. Anyway, Tim calls in and he's all hot
- 1:48Speaker 3: to trot. He's a big Candace Owens fan, and he's
- 1:50Speaker 3: accusing me of not listening enough to Candace. All Candace
- 1:54Speaker 3: is doing is asking questions, which of course is as
- 1:58Speaker 3: you've always said, that's the That's that's code for I'm
- 2:02Speaker 3: gonna smear the heck out of you, but I'm gonna
- 2:04Speaker 3: I'm gonna hide under the guise of I'm just asking questions.
- 2:07Speaker 3: Did you I mean, did you stop beating your wife?
- 2:10Speaker 3: I'm just asking questions. That's that's their pro that's Candace's approach.
- 2:15Speaker 3: And in fact, yesterday, not to pile on here, but
- 2:18Speaker 3: this is a doozy Candace suggested someone should stab Eric
- 2:21Speaker 3: at Kirk to find out if she's a human or
- 2:24Speaker 3: a robot. That was actually, so that's you. You cozy
- 2:27Speaker 3: up to that, Tim and Plano. But nonetheless, she's a
- 2:30Speaker 3: smart woman. Candace is very charismatic, she's very persuasive.
- 2:35Speaker 1: Three million podcast followers, as you will remind us.
- 2:37Speaker 3: She's got a huge following, and the Tims of the
- 2:41Speaker 3: Planos of the world are right there in lockstep with her. Anyway,
- 2:44Speaker 3: So Tim calls and and I was trying to appeal
- 2:47Speaker 3: to him as a father, as a husband. Eric had
- 2:51Speaker 3: just lost her husband. She watched a bullet tear through
- 2:54Speaker 3: her husband's neck seven months ago. Mark, it's been seven months.
- 2:59Speaker 3: Can you muster up a little compassion for a single
- 3:02Speaker 3: mom who doesn't want to be taken out the way
- 3:05Speaker 3: her husband was so that her kids are orphaned. I mean,
- 3:08Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't think that. But by the way,
- 3:10Speaker 3: when I got to that point with Tim, he was
- 3:12Speaker 3: not gonna let me make that point. And I was trying,
- 3:15Speaker 3: and I was trying, and he kept talking over me.
- 3:18Speaker 3: And incidentally, to those little ninnies, ooh, you interrupt too much,
- 3:24Speaker 3: and you didn't let Tim from play no talk. Hey,
- 3:26Speaker 3: guess what, it's my show. You're my guest. You call
- 3:30Speaker 3: the show, and I'm gonna do my best to be respectful.
- 3:33Speaker 3: I'll let you talk, but you're gonna let me talk to.
- 3:36Speaker 2: It is a conversations at two Way Street. And the
- 3:38Speaker 2: bottom line is I think this is always the opinion
- 3:41Speaker 2: of people who agree with Tim but not with you,
- 3:43Speaker 2: and wanted a little more Tim and a lot less you.
- 3:45Speaker 2: And anytime I get that observation, and usually the criticism
- 3:50Speaker 2: I get for interrupting people is when I interrupt you,
- 3:53Speaker 2: which we both do that we talk over coming in
- 3:57Speaker 2: like a fire hose. But the is did anybody not
- 4:01Speaker 2: know what Tim's point was? Did anybody not know the
- 4:04Speaker 2: point he was trying to bring? Of course they did so.
- 4:06Speaker 3: And you touched on something. You know, the people who
- 4:09Speaker 3: complained yesterday about my interaction with Tim agree with Tim.
- 4:15Speaker 3: That's the thing. The reason they want to hear the
- 4:17Speaker 3: reason they want to hear more of him is because
- 4:19Speaker 3: they think he's making a good point that somehow Erica
- 4:22Speaker 3: is a bad person worthy of derision and scorn and hate.
- 4:25Speaker 3: Now fast forward to this morning. I'm having a conversation
- 4:29Speaker 3: with a dear friend of mine, and I love this woman.
- 4:32Speaker 3: This is somebody different from somebody else I've been mentioning
- 4:35Speaker 3: over the Erica Kirk Lord. I mean because a couple
- 4:37Speaker 3: of weeks ago, I told you about the coworker who said, well,
- 4:39Speaker 3: you don't really think Tyler Robinson killed Charlie, Right, It's
- 4:43Speaker 3: like what what? What are you smoking? Yeah, as a
- 4:46Speaker 3: matter of fact, I do. There's all kinds of evidence
- 4:50Speaker 3: to anyway. So this morning, going back, and this is
- 4:53Speaker 3: a wonderful woman. Maga to the core, Saul to the earth.
- 5:00Speaker 3: Love her. I don't like Erica kirk Say excuse me.
- 5:05Speaker 3: I don't like her. My intuition tells me she's an opportunist.
- 5:10Speaker 3: She's just parading around trying to make it about her.
- 5:13Speaker 3: She has tried to manipulate everybody over her husband's death.
- 5:16Speaker 3: I'm thinking, I mean, Mark, I'm just slackjowed. I'm listening
- 5:20Speaker 3: to this thinking and this is a good person. This
- 5:22Speaker 3: is not a bad person. So the point is, whether
- 5:25Speaker 3: we like it or not, there is a sentiment out
- 5:28Speaker 3: there that, for some reason, people are negative towards this
- 5:32Speaker 3: young single mom widow who And it had to do
- 5:37Speaker 3: with like, why is she trying to run this organization? Well,
- 5:40Speaker 3: because her late husband wanted her to write that's what.
- 5:44Speaker 2: I don't want to psychoanalyze people, and certainly not someone
- 5:46Speaker 2: who without regard to this specific person whom you value
- 5:51Speaker 2: and who I'm sure I would value to you, you will,
- 5:53Speaker 2: I guarantee.
- 5:54Speaker 3: Trust me.
- 5:55Speaker 2: Often you'll get a call where you'll think this, and
- 5:58Speaker 2: I'll get a call where I think this. Is there
- 6:00Speaker 2: something going on in your life that makes you think
- 6:03Speaker 2: this way? Is there something that you were never going
- 6:05Speaker 2: to talk about because it's your personal business, your personal deal,
- 6:07Speaker 2: your personal world that makes you just see the ascendancy
- 6:11Speaker 2: of Eric and have it click wrong. Is there something
- 6:13Speaker 2: that went wrong on your path of life that maybe
- 6:15Speaker 2: is your fault, maybe it's not your fault. That just
- 6:17Speaker 2: makes people see things through a different lens. Everybody's different,
- 6:21Speaker 2: everybody's got their stuff, you know what I mean. So
- 6:24Speaker 2: sometimes there's just no explanation that's going to be made
- 6:27Speaker 2: clear to us in a conversation. Maybe it's something we
- 6:30Speaker 2: just don't know.
- 6:31Speaker 3: So you don't get it either, then good, I'm relieve.
- 6:34Speaker 3: I mean, well, but I try to give people the
- 6:37Speaker 3: benefit of the doubt. I mean, you do that too much.
- 6:39Speaker 3: I think you do it way too much. Some people
- 6:40Speaker 3: are just stupid.
- 6:41Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about this lady anymore. Some people
- 6:43Speaker 1: are stupid.
- 6:44Speaker 2: Some people are gullible, Some people are mean, some people
- 6:47Speaker 2: are falling, some people are obnoxious. Some people are democrats.
- 6:50Speaker 2: I know, I bet, I repeat myself. Some people are
- 6:53Speaker 2: just misshapen. Some people's brains are just so full of
- 6:56Speaker 2: stuff they just need to direct angst somewhere.
- 6:59Speaker 3: And yeah, but that was the point I was trying
- 7:01Speaker 3: to make to Tim. Is the meanness factor. I said
- 7:03Speaker 3: to Tim yesterday. I was trying to tell him, and
- 7:05Speaker 3: I think this is why I got him upset, because
- 7:06Speaker 3: I think he realized, oh my gosh, I've gone too far.
- 7:09Speaker 3: I said to him, what if Erica was listening right
- 7:11Speaker 3: now to this show? Listen. That's not a stretch. Charlie
- 7:15Speaker 3: listened to me all the time. I mean I would
- 7:17Speaker 3: text back and forth with Charlie. He loved talk radio.
- 7:21Speaker 3: No reason to think that. Maybe. So what if she's listening,
- 7:23Speaker 3: and she's listening to you call a national talk show
- 7:27Speaker 3: and suggests that somehow Erica was complicit or involved in
- 7:31Speaker 3: her own husband, the mother of her children's, her children assassination.
- 7:37Speaker 3: How do you think she'd feel? And that's when Tim
- 7:39Speaker 3: went off the rails. I think I got to him
- 7:41Speaker 3: in term on a personal level because it was like,
- 7:43Speaker 3: this is because it's true, there's a cruelty to this. Mark.
- 7:49Speaker 3: Erica should be stabbed so we can find out if
- 7:51Speaker 3: she's a human or a robot.
- 7:53Speaker 2: What's wrong with these people? Performative nonsense? And I had
- 7:57Speaker 2: just did it. I want to hopefully the lafe.
- 7:58Speaker 3: But that performative nonsense sense is influencing people, Mark.
- 8:02Speaker 2: Is it influencing people, change, turning people, turning people into
- 8:07Speaker 2: those that kind of creature or is it just bringing
- 8:10Speaker 2: out giving a safe space for people who were that
- 8:13Speaker 2: way already.
- 8:13Speaker 3: It's a good question. I wish I knew the answer
- 8:15Speaker 3: to that. I don't know. I'd love to analyze Tim
- 8:18Speaker 3: and Tim and Plano, God bless him. I hate to
- 8:20Speaker 3: keep bringing him up, but I'd love to have a
- 8:22Speaker 3: follow up if we If he'd let me talk, please
- 8:25Speaker 3: and a.
- 8:27Speaker 1: Call, call, call.
- 8:28Speaker 2: It's EA want to get I want to do something
- 8:31Speaker 2: so uplifting and patriotic and wonderful. If you're ready for this,
- 8:34Speaker 2: do you remember? And I know you do because you
- 8:36Speaker 2: would have been sixteen? Do you remember the bi centennial?
- 8:40Speaker 2: It was nineteen seventy six, and the great Molly Hemingway
- 8:45Speaker 2: posted something and said, I just if crazy things are
- 8:48Speaker 2: going on, She's noticing this time out for America's semi
- 8:52Speaker 2: quinn centennial whatever the word is, for two hundred and
- 8:55Speaker 2: fifty years, there's not as much merch not as much commercialization.
- 9:00Speaker 3: She said. She kind of misses it.
- 9:01Speaker 1: I do too.
- 9:02Speaker 2: It was lampooned a little bit as the Bye b
- 9:05Speaker 2: U y Dash Centennial because there was so much merchandise
- 9:09Speaker 2: it seemed like, and maybe two hundreds of bigger deal
- 9:11Speaker 2: than two hundred and fifty a rounder number. But I'm
- 9:14Speaker 2: pretty stoked for the fourth of July. I always am.
- 9:17Speaker 2: But this two point fifty is really something. I think
- 9:20Speaker 2: it's going to be magnificent. I hope the economy is
- 9:22Speaker 2: more stable. I hope we won the war by then,
- 9:24Speaker 2: and this, this triumphal arch. I've been across that path
- 9:28Speaker 2: of territory a lot. On Memorial Bridge, on the way
- 9:30Speaker 2: into Arlington Cemetery, a lot. It is part of the sky.
- 9:33Speaker 2: There's no skyline in DC to speak of, really, no
- 9:35Speaker 2: skyscrapers because you can't have anything taller than the Capitol.
- 9:38Speaker 2: But that's the landscape, the hoof and grounds of my youth.
- 9:41Speaker 2: I think this arch, this trium, it's not it's not
- 9:43Speaker 2: a monument to Trump. It's a monument to American greatness,
- 9:47Speaker 2: which is why some people hate it. I can't wait
- 9:50Speaker 2: to see this thing. I love the I love the idea.
- 9:53Speaker 2: I love this this this July fourth and I and
- 9:56Speaker 2: I also love that it triggers some people.
- 9:59Speaker 3: Well, it's why I am excited about this cruise in November,
- 10:02Speaker 3: because it's all going to be about celebrating America's two
- 10:04Speaker 3: hundred and fiftieth Scott Jennings and I are going to
- 10:07Speaker 3: be co hosting this this big Gulf of America cruise
- 10:10Speaker 3: November the fourteenth out of Fort Lauderdale, and we're making
- 10:13Speaker 3: it a purposeful two hundred and fiftieth themed cruise, and
- 10:17Speaker 3: a ton of people are signing up. We added, by
- 10:19Speaker 3: the way, recently, kurch Lickter, he's going to be with us.
- 10:23Speaker 3: So batten down the hatches, Katie, bar the doors, hide
- 10:27Speaker 3: the women and children, because he is a he is
- 10:29Speaker 3: a he is wonderful. Larry O'Connor is going to join us,
- 10:33Speaker 3: and he's fantastic. Washington buddy, townhall guy, Jennifer Horn's coming
- 10:37Speaker 3: back because we're I think fifty people signed up just
- 10:39Speaker 3: last week. So when these when these state rooms are gone,
- 10:42Speaker 3: they're gone. Go to mic online dot com to get
- 10:44Speaker 3: details about the Gulf of America cruise. But you're you
- 10:47Speaker 3: are so right, there doesn't seem to be And incidentally,
- 10:50Speaker 3: you took a little side you were a little side
- 10:52Speaker 3: eyed there a moment ago about the economy. You check
- 10:55Speaker 3: out what happened yesterday with with you know, with the
- 10:58Speaker 3: stock market and the no. No.
- 11:01Speaker 2: My whole theme right now is I totally get that
- 11:03Speaker 2: gas prices are punitive. I totally get it. Virtually everything
- 11:06Speaker 2: else is on the upswing. Virtually everything else is a
- 11:09Speaker 2: cause for optimism.
- 11:10Speaker 3: Americans got larger, even CBS was forced to report that
- 11:14Speaker 3: Americans are getting larger tax refunds this year due to
- 11:17Speaker 3: the big beautiful bill. Oh really about eleven percent? Up
- 11:22Speaker 3: here's the way Axios covered it. Well, yeah, they're bigger,
- 11:25Speaker 3: but they're not as big as we thought they were
- 11:26Speaker 3: going to be. Are you kidder?
- 11:28Speaker 2: I think it was CBS that Tony You can keep
- 11:30Speaker 2: it tracking that Tony dcopyl it's I like him and
- 11:34Speaker 2: I like them.
- 11:35Speaker 1: You it is. It's better than David Muran, better than
- 11:37Speaker 1: samm Yamas.
- 11:38Speaker 3: It just is.
- 11:39Speaker 2: But even they said, you know, Americans are getting a
- 11:42Speaker 2: bigger tax refund and average of seven hundred and some dollars. However,
- 11:45Speaker 2: that seven hundred and some dollars is eaten up by
- 11:47Speaker 2: higher gas prices.
- 11:50Speaker 1: They're not they're not rotten. That's hardy to go, Sam Kittison.
- 11:53Speaker 4: Sam Kittison, it's it's they're not. They're not wrong, they're
- 11:56Speaker 4: not rich, they're rob But man, it's glass half full,
- 12:00Speaker 4: glass half empty. How about the success of the blockade
- 12:04Speaker 4: of the Strait of horr Mood. It's the most undercovered
- 12:08Speaker 4: story of the news cycle. And I'm not even the
- 12:11Speaker 4: only one saying that. Mark Alprin was saying that on
- 12:13Speaker 4: his podcast. The blockade is working beautifully. Iran is going
- 12:18Speaker 4: to be forced to come to the table. No one's
- 12:22Speaker 4: been hurt in the strait of horror moves. It's working.
- 12:25Speaker 4: That's Trump's plan. Trust Trump. Now, one more note on
- 12:30Speaker 4: the president. Are a rascible guy who I read somewhere
- 12:33Speaker 4: today that the reason he likes diet coke is because
- 12:36Speaker 4: it kills grass story.
- 12:38Speaker 2: Yes, who said that was RFK Junior Scott Wall Street Journal.
- 12:47Speaker 2: No doctor, o doctor, thank you, and took him seriously
- 12:51Speaker 2: because the Trump point was, you know, well, your poor
- 12:53Speaker 2: diet coke out it kills grass. So what must cure cancer?
- 12:56Speaker 2: Do people not have a sense of humor anymore?
- 12:59Speaker 3: Sense?
- 12:59Speaker 2: You don't think we can't complete the morning without the
- 13:01Speaker 2: latest Trump Jesus post. Have you seen it? Yes, Irish
- 13:06Speaker 2: for Trump. It was somebody posted by somebody else. It's
- 13:09Speaker 2: Jesus with his arm around Trump who's just looking very appreciative.
- 13:12Speaker 2: And the Irish for Trump person whoever that is, said,
- 13:16Speaker 2: you know, did anybody think that maybe with all the
- 13:19Speaker 2: sickness and stuff going on in.
- 13:20Speaker 1: The world, that maybe God is playing his Trump card?
- 13:24Speaker 1: Get it?
- 13:24Speaker 2: And Trump reposts that on truth, Social and the radical
- 13:28Speaker 2: left is good, I know, but it's fine. Now I'm
- 13:30Speaker 2: enjoying it. The left all this, but I think it's
- 13:34Speaker 2: kind of nice, you know what, It is kind of nice.
- 13:36Speaker 2: And if you're making a list of people who think
- 13:37Speaker 2: that God's hand might be in his ascendency so that
- 13:40Speaker 2: our country and world can get better, count me among
- 13:43Speaker 2: that number.
- 13:43Speaker 3: Well. And on the other hand, on the other side
- 13:45Speaker 3: of the coin, And yesterday, Tucker Carlson wondered aloud, if
- 13:48Speaker 3: Trump was the Antichrist, just stop you. I'm not kidding.
- 13:53Speaker 3: I'm not kidding. Tucker looked into the kitten. I'm not
- 13:56Speaker 3: Tucker looked into the camera and said, this terrible offense. Jesus,
- 14:01Speaker 3: meme this Christ. Do you think he may just be
- 14:04Speaker 3: the Antichrist? There is wisdom in what, Mike, there is
- 14:07Speaker 3: wisdom in what. There's wisdom to ignore, well, Tim. If
- 14:12Speaker 3: Tim from Plano calls back, I won't ignore him. We'll
- 14:16Speaker 3: try again. But Tim, the word of the wise, let
- 14:19Speaker 3: me talk. It's my show. Look, my show, my show. Okay,
- 14:24Speaker 3: when you get a show, I'll call you and you
- 14:26Speaker 3: can hang up on me. It's his show. Make no mistake.
- 14:29Speaker 2: I love you, man, you mistake it is his show
- 14:32Speaker 2: and it will be his show, but you are welcome
- 14:34Speaker 2: coming up at ten on the Mike Gallagher Program as
- 14:37Speaker 2: soon as we're done on six sixty am.
- 14:38Speaker 1: The Answer