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Who wins AL West? Tigers struggles, Dodgers rotation dominates, London Series cancelled · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to a brand new live edition
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  Speaker 1: of Foul Territory. I'm Alana Rizzo in for Scott Braun.
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  Speaker 1: That is Eric Kratz. That is Aj Pierzinski, who is
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  Speaker 1: on the call for a game tonight, so he is
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  Speaker 1: doing the show remote. We appreciate you being here.
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  Speaker 2: Aj.
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  Speaker 1: dot com. It is time to charge the mound. Let's
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  Speaker 1: charging about all right, you guys. The Astros they are
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  Speaker 1: back in first place, the Houston Astros the Seattle Mariners
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  Speaker 1: continue to jockey for position in the Al West as
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  Speaker 1: they both fight for their playoff lives. If you will,
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  Speaker 1: Mariners a ten game win streak, AJ, that came to
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  Speaker 1: an end yesterday. They were on a good run. But
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  Speaker 1: the Astros are back in first what's your take.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I asked, I asked you guys yesterday, if the
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  Speaker 2: Mariners got a little too hot, too quit right. So
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  Speaker 2: the Astro sweep the Range and pretty much end their season.
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  Speaker 2: And now they get the Mariners coming into Houston, where
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  Speaker 2: Houston has played really well this year. So we all
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  Speaker 2: think the Astros are going to get in. We're not
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  Speaker 2: sure who's going to win the division. But this was
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  Speaker 2: a huge three games for the Astros to sweep the Rangers.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean they're they're basically tied right there.
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  Speaker 2: Seattle has one extra game to play and it's all
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  Speaker 2: gonna come down to these next three days. If one
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  Speaker 2: of them sweeps the other, one's in big trouble, and
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  Speaker 2: whoever wins two out of three is going to put
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  Speaker 2: themselves in a nice position to make the postseason and
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  Speaker 2: win the division.
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  Speaker 1: Eric are the Rangers cooked?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, they're cooked.
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  Speaker 3: They're a little a little too late or a little
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  Speaker 3: too late, yeah, whatever, I don't know. I was trying
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  Speaker 3: to figure out what the what the saying is a
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  Speaker 3: little too late?
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  Speaker 2: Thank you? Thank you?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I think it should show them for next year
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  Speaker 3: that a little bit of a shot of energy. I'm
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  Speaker 3: not saying it has to be young guys coming up
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  Speaker 3: with inexperienced but I'm saying maybe a shot of maybe
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  Speaker 3: it's okay to play like with your hair on fire
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  Speaker 3: a little bit, because I think that's what they've done recently,
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  Speaker 3: or maybe they were winning and that's why they've had
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  Speaker 3: this different fervor when they're out there, but I would
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  Speaker 3: say they're cooked.
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  Speaker 1: Agy at what point are we going to stop? But
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that you did. I'm not saying that
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  Speaker 1: Eric did. I'm saying we as a collective, at what
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  Speaker 1: point are we going to stop? Like counting out the
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  Speaker 1: Houston Astros, I mean a couple of years ago they didn't. Yeah, Well,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I was like, maybe this
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  Speaker 1: isn't the year that they make a push for the postseason, right,
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  Speaker 1: maybe this isn't the year that they can do it
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  Speaker 1: just because of the subtractions of Kyle Tucker and the
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  Speaker 1: absence of Alex Bregman and the decimation to their starting rotation.
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  Speaker 1: And here they are. I mean, they've won five of
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  Speaker 1: their past six games. They're only one and a half
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  Speaker 1: games behind the Tigers for the number two playoff seed
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  Speaker 1: now in the American League, which comes with the first round.
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  Speaker 1: By So I went from they're not going to make
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  Speaker 1: the postseason too, they may get a first round by
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  Speaker 1: how do they do this?
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  Speaker 2: Well, they have Altuve who's been a constant there. They
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  Speaker 2: brought back Korea, but it's something about the chemistry and
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  Speaker 2: the culture that they have in Houston. What it is,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, but the one consonant has been Jose
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  Speaker 2: Altuve through all of this, so he does something. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't get enough credit as a leader, but he's
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  Speaker 2: been through all of the ups and downs. And not
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  Speaker 2: forget he came up when they were terrible and survived
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  Speaker 2: that and now is going to go to the Hall
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  Speaker 2: of Fame. Is one of the best astros of all
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  Speaker 2: time and he deserves a ton of credit. But Joe a.
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  Speaker 2: Spada has taken over for Dusty Baker, who took over
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  Speaker 2: for Hinch, right, Dana Brown. They've been through Lunau and
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  Speaker 2: I forget the guy who got fired after they won
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  Speaker 2: a World Series where they brought in Dana Brown. But
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  Speaker 2: it's crazy how they've done this year after year and
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  Speaker 2: there's just something they figure out a way to win,
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  Speaker 2: and it's amazing. It's an amazing run. And if you're
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  Speaker 2: in Houston, guys, enjoy this because you might never see
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  Speaker 2: a run like this ever ever again. Look at the
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  Speaker 2: Atlanta Braves. For all those years, people just took it
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  Speaker 2: for granted, it went away. They had another couple run
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  Speaker 2: a year's run, but it hasn't been the same enjoy
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  Speaker 2: this run, the Astros run if you're an Astros fan,
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  Speaker 2: because it's something special. I don't know what it is.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what they do there. They seem like
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  Speaker 2: they do a lot of the right things. We all
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  Speaker 2: know they did some wrong things. But all they do
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  Speaker 2: is win and it is a fun thing to watch.
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  Speaker 1: And last night, ek they did it with Christian Javier
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  Speaker 1: on the mound. He looked really good. Six innings, five hits,
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  Speaker 1: two earned runs, one walk, four k's okay, eighty eight pitches,
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  Speaker 1: fifty four of which were for strikes, so he was
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  Speaker 1: throwing a lot of strikes in the zone. Thirty nine
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  Speaker 1: swings and nine whiffs. He retired Eric ten of the
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  Speaker 1: last eleven Rangers he faced. Now his era, it's not sexy.
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  Speaker 1: It's about four and a half. But the point is,
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  Speaker 1: as you do your final tune ups going into the postseason,
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  Speaker 1: Javier looked good.
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  Speaker 3: He looked good. It's only a seven start this year,
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  Speaker 3: is did they think, oh, yeah, this is definitely one
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  Speaker 3: of the guys that we have to have for the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe not when he's coming off of a essentially season
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  Speaker 3: long injury, because he's got seven starts. Now you'd love
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  Speaker 3: to have somebody with a few more starts under their belt.
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  Speaker 3: But maybe he's just rounding into the pitcher that they
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  Speaker 3: know he can be, and that is gonna have to
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  Speaker 3: step up. You know, they wanted Spencer Ranghetti to come back.
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  Speaker 3: That's not happening, and so what are you gonna get
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  Speaker 3: out of them? Hopefully they can build them up so
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  Speaker 3: his length is gonna be long enough that they can
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  Speaker 3: kind of jump over that little bit of a blip
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  Speaker 3: that they have in their bullpen, because their bullpen's a
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  Speaker 3: little bit thinner without Hater in the back, without Suza
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  Speaker 3: out there.
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  Speaker 2: And you say, hey, I.
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  Speaker 3: Start like this pushes them really far in the right direction.
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  Speaker 1: If you take a look at the American League West standings, guys,
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  Speaker 1: as you mentioned, Texas is cooked, right. I mean, they're
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  Speaker 1: five games behind everybody else as far as that's concerned,
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  Speaker 1: sitting at third place. We know the Athletics are eliminated
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  Speaker 1: fourteen and a half games out and the Angels are
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  Speaker 1: now eliminated officially as well mathematically done. So obviously it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna come down to Houston and Seattle.
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  Speaker 2: Duh.
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  Speaker 1: But how much of a focus, of course, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is a massive series starting between these two teams
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  Speaker 1: tomorrow half game back. I mean two weeks ago, we
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  Speaker 1: would have thought that. I mean, it was a foregone conclusion.
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  Speaker 1: We were kind of complaining as a sport that, oh
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  Speaker 1: it's so boring. We know all of the teams that
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  Speaker 1: are getting into the postseason, this, that, and the other thing.
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  Speaker 1: There's no competition. And now both the AO West and
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  Speaker 1: al No West. I know that AJ said the Mets
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  Speaker 1: are in and that's the thing. But this is exciting.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is a massive series with with you know,
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  Speaker 1: it could swing either way when you're only a half
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  Speaker 1: game out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys always right here, it could swing either
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  Speaker 2: Well no, but I have to look at the slack,
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  Speaker 2: and my slack is down here, so what I mean. Sorry,
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to make sure that we, you know, blah
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  Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah and what talks over each other.
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  Speaker 2: So listen, I'm not at home, Okay, So I have
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  Speaker 2: stuff that I'm literally doing the show on a I
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  Speaker 2: don't even know what this thing is in the visiting
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  Speaker 2: booth here right because I tried to do it by
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  Speaker 2: the and I was told I looked too good, so
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  Speaker 2: I had to move about it darkened me. Oh, darkened
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  Speaker 2: me right, because I was too bright, shining like a diamond.
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  Speaker 2: But so here's yes, this this, this series is gonna
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  Speaker 2: probably design the aos. And I still believe that the
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  Speaker 2: playoff teams are set, just not in what order. Interesting
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  Speaker 2: thing though, the Tigers they suck right now, they are
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  Speaker 2: not playing well. Can the Astros or Mariners catch them
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  Speaker 2: and steal the by Now that would be a story
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  Speaker 2: because no one had that in their in their car.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would not have imagined that the seating would
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  Speaker 1: be a factor at this point when you were thinking.
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  Speaker 1: I thought the Tigers back at you know, a month
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  Speaker 1: and change ago, we're going to run away with everything.
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  Speaker 1: We've talked about how there's no thirty teams that really
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  Speaker 1: as a clear cut favorite as to who's gonna win
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  Speaker 1: this whole dang thing. But I thought the Tigers were
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  Speaker 1: the most complete team this year, kind of wire to wire.
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  Speaker 1: What has been since you brought it up, AJ, What
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  Speaker 1: do you think has been the biggest thing in terms
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  Speaker 1: of not their collapse that's not fair, obviously they're getting
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  Speaker 1: into the postseason, but what have been their most recent struggles?
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  Speaker 1: What have you noticed by watching that club?
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  Speaker 2: Their pitching, hasn't been as great other than school has
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  Speaker 2: been School has been good. He hasn't been as amazing
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  Speaker 2: as he was the first half. Their pitching hasn't been
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  Speaker 2: as good, their bullpen hasn't been as good, and they
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  Speaker 2: haven't I mean, it's kind of been a whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: Hobby Bayaz has kind of gone back down to reality
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  Speaker 2: from the first half. Uh, and they're not scoring as
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  Speaker 2: many runs. It's just kind of been you know what
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  Speaker 2: it seems like to me, It seems like they're knew
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  Speaker 2: they were gonna win the division, so they put it
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  Speaker 2: in cruise control, and now they got to figure out
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  Speaker 2: a way to turn it back on before the playoffs
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  Speaker 2: start because they've been in first place pretty much the
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  Speaker 2: whole year. They knew they were gonna win the division,
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  Speaker 2: and they just it's kind of like the Dodgers. The
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  Speaker 2: Dodgers just cruise, Cruise, Cruise. Let's we get to the
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  Speaker 2: postseason and we'll turn it on. The Dodgers have that pedigree.
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  Speaker 2: The Tigers don't. Tiger's too young, Eric young control.
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  Speaker 1: Can you flip a switch in this sport? Because AJ
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  Speaker 1: was saying, like, you know, cruise control that type of thing.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's so hard to flip a switch in baseball.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's hard to flip the switch in baseball
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  Speaker 3: when you're not playing every day. When you're a guy
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  Speaker 3: that plays every day, you start getting into that rhythm
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  Speaker 3: and routine and then playoffs start and you're just like, yep,
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  Speaker 3: i'll I'll bump it up. It's never about effort, like
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  Speaker 3: guys always give effort. But when you're a platoon guy,
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  Speaker 3: and I think the Tigers do a lot of platoon
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  Speaker 3: pinch hit matchups, that stuff has to go really well.
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  Speaker 3: And if you're if you're just off a tick in
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  Speaker 3: those situations, you're gonna get dominated because you're coming off
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  Speaker 3: the bench in the sixth, seventh, eighth inning expecting Carry Carpenter,
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  Speaker 3: Matt Verling, somebody who hasn't been in the game to
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  Speaker 3: come up with a big hit. And that's tough to
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  Speaker 3: do on a consistent basis when you're not out there
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  Speaker 3: in you know, diamond cutting situations, in times when like
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  Speaker 3: it's pressure and you know, I gotta get this job done.
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  Speaker 3: They've been up by eight to ten games the entire season,
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  Speaker 3: so they've been kind of just in those situations, maybe
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  Speaker 3: giving guys opportunities to say, okay.
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  Speaker 2: It's not all platoons split.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe aj Perzinski's giving some lefties some lefty lefty at bats,
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  Speaker 3: But these last week, this last week and a half,
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  Speaker 3: it's good for these guys to be able to be Hey, whoa, whoa.
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  Speaker 3: We got to make sure the Mariners and the Astros
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  Speaker 3: don't catch us. But the biggest thing for the Tigers
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  Speaker 3: is tonight's start. If Scooble gets through it healthy, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know how many innings they wanted to throw, that
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  Speaker 3: will dictate more than any platoon, any hot or cold lineup.
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  Speaker 3: Scooble Tonight will be must see TV for everybody in
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  Speaker 3: Detroit if they want to do what people thought a
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  Speaker 3: month ago they could do and win a World Series.
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  Speaker 1: Don't look now, but here come the mighty Dodgers as
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  Speaker 1: far as their starting staff is concerned. And it has
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  Speaker 1: nothing to do with me being a Homer. It is fact. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: look at the starting staff in terms of eras and
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  Speaker 1: August First, This from underdog MLB Snell lights out yesterday
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  Speaker 1: seven innings looked great. Yamamoto has been good all season long.
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  Speaker 1: Glass now went healthy. Amazing she and making a case Kersh.
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  Speaker 1: There's news about Kersh by the way. Today, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: we'll see Otani. Otani has the worst era. I understand
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  Speaker 1: he's not pitching as much as the rest of them. Whatever,
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  Speaker 1: Dodger's rotation leads the majors in era during the span.
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  Speaker 1: You guys, this is a bullpen that's been roughed up.
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  Speaker 1: Not withstand they're not the only ones, I get that.
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  Speaker 1: But the starting staff is healthy and they're back together
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  Speaker 1: at the right time.
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  Speaker 3: Eric, It's like they planned it to be this way.
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  Speaker 3: It's like they planned for somehow we're going to get
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  Speaker 3: through one hundred and sixty two games and some of
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  Speaker 3: these guys are going to go down, but somehow we
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  Speaker 3: got twenty starts out of all of them, and now
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  Speaker 3: they're somehow all magically healthy. This is what makes the
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  Speaker 3: Dodgers ridiculous. During that time, they were losing a lot
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  Speaker 3: of games, but Max Mounsey came back, and now the
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  Speaker 3: offense picked it back up.
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  Speaker 2: This team is.
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  Speaker 3: Hitting them all cylinders right now, and to have that
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  Speaker 3: in their rotation, they could be back to back World
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  Speaker 3: Series champs and do it two different ways with their
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  Speaker 3: pitching staff.
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  Speaker 1: Eric is right.
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  Speaker 2: Aj.
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  Speaker 1: They have a two game lead in the division over
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  Speaker 1: the Padres and a five game lead in the Wild Card.
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  Speaker 1: Are they back to back this year?
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  Speaker 2: The number one of my Power Rankings, Alona. They have
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  Speaker 2: been all year, and we all know how much I
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  Speaker 2: love Power Rankings. Number one foam finger for AJ.
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  Speaker 1: You guys both played in this game. When it was
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  Speaker 1: okay for the starters to go deep into ball games,
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  Speaker 1: it was okay for the starters to face the order
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  Speaker 1: of the third time through. Blake Snell kind of did
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  Speaker 1: that last night. He said, you know what, you are
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  Speaker 1: not coming to get me out. Dave Roberts was on
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  Speaker 1: his way. Alex Vessia was halfway to theud out of
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  Speaker 1: the bullpen. Blake Snell said, not today, dog, not today.
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  Speaker 1: Alex Vessio went back into the bullpen. Dave was like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, I'll trust you, and he did it. And
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  Speaker 1: the emotion guys from Snell, So that says two things
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  Speaker 1: to me. Blake Snell is healthy, Blake Snell is a gamer,
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  Speaker 1: and Dave trusted in his guy that goes a long way,
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  Speaker 1: does it not?
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  Speaker 2: Aj Uh. Yeah, it's amazing because normally the Dodgers are
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  Speaker 2: five innings, just get out, there's the script. But to
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  Speaker 2: see him allow guys to go deep, and they've been
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  Speaker 2: doing this a little bit more this year, it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of awesome. They're letting their guys go. Their bullpen has
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  Speaker 2: been beat up. But don't worry about them when they
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  Speaker 2: put Shohey in the bullpen. Oh wait, no, they can't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want no. Wait one, well, but I don't listen.
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  Speaker 2: The Dodgers are going to be fine. That's again why
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  Speaker 2: they're still number one in my power ranking. That's it.
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  Speaker 3: I said it yesterday. I said yesterday. Blake Snell. He
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  Speaker 3: knows exactly what he's able to do when he's able
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  Speaker 3: to do it, and he's more athletic on the mound
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  Speaker 3: than guys. Give him, give him respect for Like, this
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  Speaker 3: guy's thrown in the postseason and he's for his career.
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  Speaker 3: He's been historically better the third time through. I said
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  Speaker 3: it yesterday. I love that. I saw it last night.
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  Speaker 3: It shows that Doc Roberts is watching the show. But
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: this is what you want out of your this is
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: what you want out of your elite pittures. And they
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: have three elite pictures these guys. Like in a normal
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  Speaker 3: when AJ and I were coming up through the big leagues,
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  Speaker 3: if you had a Blake, Snow, Yamamoto and Glass now
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  Speaker 3: at the top of your rotation. And Kershaw is getting older,
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  Speaker 3: so it's a little bit different. But those three guys
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  Speaker 3: would piggyback off each other in the sense that one
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  Speaker 3: dude goes six, the next dude's gonna be like, hey, Yamamoto,
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  Speaker 3: check it out, I'm going seven, and then glass Now
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  Speaker 3: will be like, hey, Blake, check it out, I'm going eight. Now.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: It's like, well, I don't know if we're gonna let
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: these guys. I don't think the players have changed. It's
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: kind of like people who complain about kids who are
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: punks now. I don't think the kids have changed. We
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: were all punks at one time. It's the parents who
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: have changed. So in baseball, it's the coaches, it's the
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: front offices who have changed. These guys are all gamers.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: All three of those dudes at the top, I would say,
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: are gamers. And I think this year they're gonna have
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: to let him eat because exactly what I.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Was gonna ask you, Eric, Are they gonna let them
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: eat because of the usage to the bullpen? And if
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Blake Snell is out there shoving, or if it's glass Now,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: or if it's Yama or if it's whoever, are they
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: go If he's having that much effectiveness? Do they in
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: the postseason, say nope, you can't face the order the
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: third time, three you're out of here. Or do they
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: let him go?
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: What was the score last night when Blake Snell said,
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: I want to stay in.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: The game three nothing.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: If it's if it's one nothing in the playoffs, no,
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: Dave Roberts does not let him, does not let him go.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: If it's two nothing, there's nobody on three nothing. There's
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: nobody on I bet he lets them get one runner on.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: That's the difference is they're never going to allow that
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: starting pitcher to put them in a situation where it's
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: tied or losing in the postseason or yeah, if he's
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: out there. But to me right now, those three guys
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: the way they're pitching. You saw the stats of their
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: of their era since August, like everybody but showed but
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: Shohey is under a three and a half er. Who
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: in the bullpen can match that? So it's like, is
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: a ninety percent of Blake Snell better right now than
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: one hundred percent of who they're going to bring in
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: VESSI A, you know, I think he needs a little
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: bit of a little bit of a grace period. He's
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: coming off the il he was one of their best
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: pitchers until they broke him because he pitched too much.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: Is it Blake Trinan, is it Tanner Scott? Right now,
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: they're not pitching better than ninety percent Blake Snell. And
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: if you think at the end of the game Blake
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Snell is ninety percent, you keep them in there.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Well, Vesia came in, had a clean inning, which was nice.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: But I have to be honest with you. When Tanner
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Scott came in in the ninth, you guys, he had
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: a five to nothing cushion and I was still nervous
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: And I feel badly saying that, but just based on
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: what he's done this season, at what point, you guys,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: do you have enough of a resume, enough black type
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: on the back of your card, or just enough experience,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: enough service time in this game to be able to
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: do what Blake Snell did. I know he has two
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: say Young Awards, but at what point do you have
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: enough to say I'm staying in go back to the dugout.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: I think it would be a hard time telling Nolan
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: McLain when he's pitching. If Nolan McClain was pitching the
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: exact same as Blake Snell. I think Mendy would be
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: able to read the situation and go, you know what,
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: I think you're right. I'm gonna give you this chance.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: This is what the regular season is for for playoff teams.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: But you have to be a manager that's willing to
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: lose your job because you do something like that. And
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's necessarily as much dirt in your
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: cleats as it is trust from your manager. And sometimes
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: that can be built in three or four starts. Rarely, rarely,
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: but I think it's you know, it's not like, oh,
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: this guy's a ten year vet. No, you got to
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: be able to read it in the situation because if
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: a pitch isn't working, if a pitcher isn't throwing well,
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: and you're the manager, it's your job to say we're
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: taking we're taking you out. You've seen Boonie Boonie go
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: out to the mound how many times this year with
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Max Fried on the mound, with Carlos Rodin on the mound,
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: and they've convinced them to stay in. They've been wrong
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: and they've also been right. So that's how that's how
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: you earn that trust is you do what Blake Snell
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: did last night. Next time, Dave Roberts is like, I
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: don't even need to go out to the mound. I
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: don't even need to talk to him about this.
• 19:46
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• 19:50
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• 19:52
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• 20:00
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• 20:08
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• 20:12
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• 20:14
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• 20:46
  Speaker 1: All right, welcome back. The Mets drew three million fans
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: to Cityfield this season, guys, the first time since the
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: ballpark opened in two thousand and nine. It represented a
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: thirty eight percent overall increase in attendance from last season.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Just a bitch at the time, up with their lungs
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: because the Mets have imploded and they're hanging on for
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: dear life. Good fans, Good fans. I mean you love
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: to see it. I mean baseball's not dying, Baseball is
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: only growing in popularity. But you love to see it.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I wish there was a better product for them on
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: the field.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: AJ one Sodo effect one so so did this. I
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: mean one Soto bringing back Manaya, bringing back Alonzo. It
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: just shows you if you spend money, people come out
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: and watch your team if they think you're going to
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: be good. So this should be a lesson to other owners. Unfortunately,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: for fans, they're going to complain and wine. Oh Man,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: ticket prices are going up because Juan Soto's here, because
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: we paid so much for Manaya. There's no direct correlation.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: I got. I got reamed out by a fan the
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: other day. I was at Chicky and Pete's and he
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: was like, why do Phillies ticket prices go up the
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: last two years? And I was like, because the stadium
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: is packed, so city field is packed. Ticket prices are
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: going to go up because there's a thing called supply
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: and demand. So fans, good job coming out, But you
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: just made your season ticket prices go.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: For next year?
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: What's Chicky and Pete?
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: What's Chicky and Pete crabby for eyes? If you don't know,
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: find out.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Next time you're in Philly or Vegas or they're up
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: and down the East Coast.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Now, can I live on the East coast? Can you
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: door dash that?
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: To me?
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Is that a possibility?
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: That might be an up charge?
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: We're about six weeks away from Halloween, not even maybe
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: five weeks. But there are some teams guys that are
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: already dead dead is door nail in the graveyard if
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: you will? Some teams have already been eliminated. We'll start
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: with the Rockies. They set a franchise record for losses
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: one hundred and ten losses amid a seventh consecutive losing season.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: We talk about it a lot, right, it's the ownership
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: groups that don't want to spend money. It's a beautiful
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: bar park, it's a tremendous city to go to a
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: game in. They have a lot of young players, which
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: producer Lady was talking about earlier, a lot of young players,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: but they aren't necessarily a pierzinski good players. Is that fair? No?
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: They yeah, I mean they have one hundred and eleven losses.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: It's they had a chance to catch the White Sox,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: but they got a little hot, so they're not going
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: to probably do that. But yeah, I mean they have
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: a lot of good young I mean they have a
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: lot of sorry, they have a lot of young players.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Good that's gonna be seen down the road. But they
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: still haven't figured out how to pitch in Colorado. They
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: still haven't figured out how to win in Colorado. And
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: the owners back there going, oh, we invented blue Moon.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: We don't need to do anything else. We just have
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: a million two and a half million fans show up
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: to the park every day and watch the other team
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: bash homers against our young kids, and when they if
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: they do have anyone good, we trade them away anyways.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, I don't know what do you
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: say about the Rockies other than yeah, they have you
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: know what, Hunter Goodman. He's a good player, He's a
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: good young player.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: They just they just don't hold onto guys. They get
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: rid of their their superstar players. It is I mean,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to use the excuse said it is
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: difficult to pitch there, but they just to me they
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: don't have an emphasis on winning and if it's a possibility,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: they're loyal to a fault. They rarely go outside of
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: the organization for anything and bring any sort of new
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: perspective of the other twenty nine teams in. And I
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: can appreciate loyalty to a certain extent, but it's almost
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: the same definition of insanity. Yeah, I mean, it's a
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: tough situation for this team. Rockies number two prospect Charlie
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Condon projected today you next season third overall pick in
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four draft, made it up to double
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: a the season, sixty grade power, third rank first base
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: prospect in baseball. I mean whatever, all right, the Pirates.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: The Pirates, It wasn't just Derek Shelton obviously, who lost
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: his job in the middle of the season. They still
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: have Paul Schiens, AJ and e K. But they don't
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: have much around.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Him because you have to build around him. You have
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: to build.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: You can't just say, oh, you know what, we'll take
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: this guy in a draft. Look who we produced, Look
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: who we produced out of our minor league. Like they're
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: not able to promote and from within and get enough
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: value out of the guys just in their minor league
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: system to be able to be a playoff team. What
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Andrew McCutcheon and Pedro Alvarez and Garrett Cole and all
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: these guy Garrett Jones, Neil Walker, the guys that were
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: from the minor league system that came up in twenty
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: ten twenty eleven to make that run for the Pirates
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: were supplemented by guys in free agency. Now, did they
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: spend you know, did they spend one hundred million dollars
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: in free agency? No, absolutely not, Bob Nutting does not
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: allow that. But they have to supplement around them. They
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: went and got Russell Martin, they went and got AJ Burnett,
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: They went and picked up Justin Ornau at the trade deadline.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: Even though he wasn't like a big, huge piece of
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: that team, he was one of the pieces. They have
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: such an amazing core, different from what the Rockies. The Rockies,
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: I think, just really don't care about like anything other
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: than this is the Rocky way and we're gonna do
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: it and nobody get in our way, and it just
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: is not great. The Pirates, they have a pitching cords
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: that could be all home grown. They could potentially in
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: a year and a half have five guys in their
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: starting rotation that are homegrown that I would consider all
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: above average big league pitchers. You have to supplement them.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: You have to do something, maybe trade one of them,
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: to be able to get a big league player right now.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: And they just don't do it because those players cost
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: too much. So it's Bob Nutting getting in the way
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: a j How.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Do we get O'Neil Cruz, who can hit the ball
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: a mile and a half, how do we get him
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: to stop striking out?
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: You don't because straightcouts don't matter. Strakeouts don't matter.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: It's expectation. It's expectation. I know that Shelton had higher
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: expectation of.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Cruse.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: They wanted him to they wanted him to not strike
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: out as much. But if an expectation doesn't meet reality,
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: the player's never going to change. That is like one
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: of the best avatar as Andrew McCutcheon called him players
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: in the league. He called him an avatar, like he
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: is a built player and for him not to unlock it,
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: in my opinion, is the expectation of the organization and
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: also the player. The player has to be wanting to
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: be like, hey, you know what, I'm not going to
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: make ten airs in center field even though I'm learning
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: the position. I'm not going to strike out as much.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: But if an expectation doesn't meet reality for this organization,
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: then you won't get the most out of him. I
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: think there's a lot of teams that would drool over
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: having O'Neil Cruz, and.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: I think he would probably succeed somewhere else.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: And he'll probably go someplace else because they don't keep
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: superstars around a long time. AJ If you're looking at
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: the Nationals in search of a new GM, it seems
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: like they've kind of been retooling, rebuilding. Are they selling
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: are they not? They end up getting rid of Mike Rizzo.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: They have an interim manager right now. I mean, there
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: seems to be a lot of chaos at the top
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: to even figure out what's going on on the field.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Also, they were supposed to be sold and they haven't
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: been sold yet, so that's another you're going to add
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: that to the list of things. Also. But for the Nationals,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, what's their core going to be? Is it
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: James what is it c j Abrams? Is it Dylan Cruz?
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: What are they going to be? As at kayber Ruiz,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: who's there? Who's their their core going forward? And then
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: pitching wise, I mean they have to figure out the
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: pitching SiGe. Is their pitching hasn't been Mackenzie Gore, is
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: it Brad Lord? Who's who's on their pitching SIGs? Remember
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: when they won not that long ago, twenty nineteen, they
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: brought Intureser, they brought in Corbin, they brought in Jason Worth,
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: they brought in you know, Wilson Ramos. Yes, Mon Soda
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: was from the organization. But they also supplemented, they traded
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: for a trade turner. They supplemented their their positions with
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: money and with making the right trade. So who's the
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: person that's going to make those decisions because the Nets
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: when they win, they had to spend money. They haven't
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: done that recently. They also helped that they had Strasbourg
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: who was the one to one and he worked out
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: for that one year. So I don't know the Nats,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: they got a lot to figure out. So the most
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: important thing is are they selling the team and who's
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: going to be in charge of baseball ops on a
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: day to day basis?
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Is that something you see happening within the next couple
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: of years, or I mean is this I mean, what
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: are we looking at here? Before the Gnats return to
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: any sort of decent conversation.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Who owns a team? Figure it out? Figure out who
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: owned they're gonna do the learners are going to keep
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: the team, then great, but find a GM and or
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: president of baseball offs and knows what they're doing and
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: get him in there and give them a year or
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: two to figure out what they have and go from there.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Eric, I think this is the team that bothers me
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: the most that I'm talking about the Angels, Like, this
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: is a team that hasn't gone to the postseason? What
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: in eleven years? It's been eleven seasons, the longest drout
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball, the third longest route in major
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: North American sports. They had some unbelievable talent. I understand
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Arty Moreno does not put money in pitching. He loves
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: the sluggers. He wants to pay the sluggers. You can't
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: really blame Mike. I mean you can't say, oh, poor
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Mike drout. He chose to go back there, he chose
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: to stay there. But Sam Blum has absolutely torched this team.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: He writes for The Athletic on the Angels. I mean,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: what do you do? They're not going to sell, right,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: We discussed that earlier this week. I mean, does this
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: team ever get back to some sort of relevancy.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Yes, I mean because they have good young talent. Out
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: of everybody on this list. They do have money, like
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: they have spent money. Have they spent it correctly?
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Not really.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: I think peramin Asian has done what he is able
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: to do. I think he he told Arty Moreno, hey,
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: we need some slug in our lineup. So they went
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: out and got some slug You know, it may have
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: kind of hamstrung their roster construction a little bit, but
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: if you have to take away what Arty Moreno gets
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: in a way, then I have to say this organization,
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: out of all the others that we've talked about, has
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: one of the best chances, only because I still truly
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: believe in Mike Trout, but I also believe in some
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: of the young guys that they have up there. I
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: think Christian Moore is still learning at the big league level.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: I think his skill set is he will be an
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: above average second basement in the big leagues.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: I think Neto is a.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Really good shortstop, and clearly from what I've heard of
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: guys there, he is a team leader.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Shanawell.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: He's gonna not give you as much power at first
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: base as other teams, but he puts together a professional
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: at bat. And I love Logan o'happy friend of the show,
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: and I think he's gonna have just continue to learn.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: You're watching a team that probably has guys that should
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: have been getting triple A at bats, but you're watching
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: them in the big leagues. So I think out of
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: all these teams we mentioned so far, I think they
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: could be the closest because I also think perryman Asian
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: is a really good GM that's not afraid to say
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: I don't need five years. I want my two or
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: three years. And I get what Ardie Moreno's not gonna
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: allow me to do. I'm still going to find a
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: way to get guys, good guys in there, and that
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: takes a two or three year period.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Byron Buckston, guys is five hundred thousand dollars richer after
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: grounding into a fielder's choice in the fifth shit, I
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: could have done that. He just made his five hundred
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: second plate appearance, which triggered a PAIDA is thirty one
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: plate appearances away from another five hundred k. Good for him.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: I love seeing Byron bucks and get these incentives because
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: one of the biggest things with him is just being
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: able to stay, stay healthy and stay on the field.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Did you guys have incentive laden contracts in your day too,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Like if you reached a certain amount of Okay, so
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: I'm talking to aj Eric whatever, if you're your sister
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: out of you know, innings caught or you know RBI
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: or whatever. I mean, take me through some of your
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: contract negotiation situations.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Aj I never wanted incentives. I just wanted the money upfront,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: so I didn't I tried to stay away from incentives.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: I just wanted the money up front. I'm like, I'm
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: gonna play one hundred and twenty of one hundred and
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: forty games and go from there. But one year I
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: did have them was twenty fifteen at the Braves, and
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: I started hitting them and they came to me and said, yeah,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: we're not going to play you in September because you've
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: already started to hit. And then the other catcher what
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: didn't do so good? So like, you know what, We're
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: gonna have to play you after all. So I started
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: checking some of the bigger ones off.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Now were they in attention when they made you, like
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: when they needed you again?
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Ok they didn't have anybody else. Okay, not at all.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: They got at all. We were terrible.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: They got hamstrung by it. And I did have incentives.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: One time I signed a minor league contract, got traded
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: over to the Brewers, and the Brewers were like, what
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: about these incentives the Yankees put in there. I mean,
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: my agent put in this like crazy, like if he
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: gets fifty at bats in the big leagues, he gets
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: twenty five thousand. If he gets if he gets one
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: hundred at bats in the big leagues, another twenty five thousand.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: I made it all the way to two hundred at
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: bats and two hundred played appearances in the big leagues,
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: and I'll never forget looking up and I saw on
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: the board it said two hundred and one plate appearances
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: and I was like, yeah, I got it to cash.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: So that's awesome.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: You got a load. I think I'm pretty sure Lucas
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Giolito hid an incentive yesterday too by pitching four innings.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: I think he activated his option. It was like a
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: mutual option that was activated for him and the Red
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Socks for next year, like nineteen million or something like that.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's awesome. And Walker Bueler, prior to
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: him getting defayed by the Socks and picked up by
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: the Phillies, was like making five hundred thousand every certain
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: amount of it. I mean, that's that's awesome. That type
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: of stuff, to me, is so motivating. I mean, obviously,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: if you're doing it in a winning fashion for your team,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: that's great.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: I think the money should be upfront. I would say
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: no player gets incentives, but when they do work it out,
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: like Buxton's he was injured a lot, the team said
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: we'll still pay you an absolute voat load if you
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: stay healthy, and he said, you know what, I was
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: injured a lot and I will stay healthy.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: So good for both of them. Guys.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: This is a bit strange to me. I mean, we
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: are a major, major, major player in North American sports,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: but Major League Baseball apparently is calling off its London
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: series for twenty twenty six due to scheduling conflicts, Like
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: how does this happen? By the way, so they deemed
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: it impractical to convert the field of baseball. Now, we've
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: played in London before. We just did this, right, an
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: expensive and labor intensive process. In the timeframe that would
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: have been available. The Yankees and the Blue Jays were
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: aiming to play gentlemen in the middle of June at
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: London Stadium, home to the Premier League soccer team west
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Ham United. But apparently, AJ did you cover that game
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: in London when the Cubs it was.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Two years ago?
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: That's right, Okay, So I mean it was.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Awesome, It was awesome.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: I would have loved to have been there. I would
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: have loved to think. It's money, Eric, is that the issue?
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: It's not. You don't think it's the time frame? What
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: do you do?
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: What is this an expensive and labor intensive process.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: They but aren't they making a boatload of money on it?
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: Maybe they're not, And maybe that doesn't Maybe if you're
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: putting a lot out because they have to change the
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: pitch to a baseball field, maybe they didn't find enough
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: cash hesh to come in. No way, they're like, ah,
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: you know what, it's just too close. They knew how
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: long it was going to be to the next soccer game,
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: and how long it takes to get the field back
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: in shape to play soccer, So.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Why even announced the damn schedule? Then until you're certain
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: this money.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: I hope they would get it.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Oh well, I have a hard time believing it's any
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: reason other than that. Because this is a thing to
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: grow the game. This grows the game in another country,
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: just like football is going Sal Paolo and Arctica, Germany,
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: like France, like they're going everywhere for the NFL. They're
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: not doing it because I don't know, maybe we'll break even.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: They're doing it because it grows the game. It makes
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: them cash. But Major League Baseball says, you know what,
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: if we're not making enough, we're just gonna blame it
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: on the fact that, ah, we can't get the grass
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: to grow within the eighteen days.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: They knew how long it was gonna be.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: They knew how long it was gonna be to make
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: the pitch perfect for a Premier League game.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: That's a good movie, by the way, pitch perfect. So
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: West Ham's final Premier League match of the season is
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: scheduled for May twenty fourth, twenty days aj before the
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: first planned baseball game. The conversion process took eighteen days
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: for Major League Baseball games in London in twenty twenty four.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: MLB field consultant Murray Cook said last year conversion also
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: required eighteen days. In twenty twenty three, he said, while
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen the process took twenty one days. So
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: we're talking about a matter of days, which I'm not
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: saying is insignificant. But I find it odd that they
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: could not have like have figured this out or have
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: just pushed pushed the series. Like I don't know, I
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: don't understand like this whole scheduling thing, and I understand
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: the fairness part of it too, but it just seems
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: odd that they would announce it, advertise it, and then
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: pull back on it.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like it could work if they really
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: wanted it too. That's that's it. I don't know, I
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: don't know. I know this. When I went over there
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: was great, and I would have loved to have gone
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: over there again because it was. It was an awesome
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: vacation to go over there do a game. Basically, go
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: over to Europe for a week or longer and do
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: a baseball game and enjoy your time over there, because
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: it's a beautiful place if you haven't been. But I
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: would have loved to have gone. Didn't look like it's happened.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I loved it. I mean, of course, Manage League
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Baseball is going to have a large international presidence, of
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: course for the twenty twenty six World Baseball Classic, which
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: I love that tournament. I don't know how you guys
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: feel about the WBC, but I absolutely love it. It's just
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: a bummer. I would have loved to have gone again
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: to continue to expand this this game of ours in London.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens in twenty twenty six across
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: the pond. All right, guys, when we come back, we're
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: gonna be slapping some hands. We'll be right back. We
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: are slapping hands, and we're talking about the San Francisco Giants.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: They beat the Diamondbacks yesterday boys five to one and
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: eleven innings to prevent getting swept. But furthermore, they're still
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: hanging by a thread. AJ So you're saying there's a chance, Well,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: you're not with the San Francisco Giants, But I mean,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: do you at this point as a player, if you
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: know you're probably not making it, do you just want
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: to be put out of your misery already or are
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: you still hanging onto that little tiny bit of hope
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: that you got a shot.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: You're trying to hang on to all the hope you
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: can because you don't want the season to end and
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: you're hoping you can figure out a way to get
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: really hot. But yeah, it's tough for all these teams
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: just because where the Mets are at. And the Mets
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: are winning today already, so it's gonna be tough. I've
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: said it for a while now. The Mets are going
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: to get in. Now, can they do damage that's a
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: different story. But I firmly believe that these teams are
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: chasing her. I'm in Cincinnati, you know they're playing the Cubs.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: The Cubs clinching, you can maybe sneak a win with
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Hunter Green on the Mountain night, but it's gonna be
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: really hard to get in.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Verlander looks pretty good, Ekay turning back the clocks a
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: seven inning shutout, only three hits and two walks. He's
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: kind of going backward and says he wants to pitch
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: next year. I think he's about fifty two years old
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: right now. Coming back in twenty twenty six looks pretty
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: good for the old guy, huh.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's got his ERA below four for the season.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: At the beginning of the year, it looked like he
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: was walking one step out the door. Now he's firmly
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: back in the room. If he wants to pitch next year.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: The way he's finished down the stretch here, I think
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: it's been seven or eight starts, he's proven that, you
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: know what, I'm ready to go. Maybe he's got to
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: figure out his off season routine, or maybe he did
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: too much early in the year, who knows, or it
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: was too cold in San Francisco, no idea what it was.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: He's a veteran, he knows. But if he puts together
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: one more good start like he just had, he's going
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: to get himself another nice ten to fifteen million dollars
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: one year contract.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: It probably was cold in San Francisco. That's a freezing
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: place to play. Matt Chapman. Patrick Bailey aj some bright
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: spots for the San Francisco Giants this year. I mean,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: is this perhaps a way that Patrick Bailey can have
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: a more of a breakout season next year, can kind
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: of jump offensively to the next steps. Four homers in
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: his last thirty eight abs to give positive signs that
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: he can kind of take it to another level.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: And needs to. He's always been great defensively, and they
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: were talking about him being a star behind the plate.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: It hasn't happened, So hopefully he made. This is a
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: good sign and he can take the next step for
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: the Giants and they can start trying to get back
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: to Buster Posey's winning ways when he was a player there.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: They were led by a great catcher and every good
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: team as a good catcher.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it hasn't quite been the same since Buster Posey retired, right, Eric,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: You and I are in all red today, but I
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: see that Krat's hats is read. Of course, who you
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: repping the Phillies today? Oh, Cincinnati, They still got a
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: shot huh.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like we're all in Cincinnati
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: because we're there with AJ. So I appreciate AJ. Letting
• 42:15
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• 43:09
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