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IAAI Town Meeting: Logan is Making Us Swoon (Season 5 E7 “You Jump, I Jump Jack”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in.
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  Speaker 2: Again!
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  Speaker 3: More, more, more. I want to kiss you more.
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  Speaker 2: More, more, more. I want to kiss you more.
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  Speaker 4: I Am All In Town Meeting with Suzanne French and
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  Speaker 4: Tara Sood.
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  Speaker 5: An iHeartRadio podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Hi guys, welcome back to another episode of I Am
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  Speaker 3: All In Town Meeting with myself, Tara, and Suzanne.
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  Speaker 2: Hello!
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  Speaker 3: Today we're talking about one of the biggest episodes in
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  Speaker 3: the series, which is Season 5, Episode 7, You Jump,
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  Speaker 3: I Jump Jack, aired November 2nd, 2004. I was telling
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  Speaker 3: you right before we started, the second I just clicked
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  Speaker 3: start on this episode, I was like, oh, You Jump,
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  Speaker 3: I Jump Jack. And I'm not someone who remembers the
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  Speaker 3: titles as much, and this is one where I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: I know this episode.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. This is, like, a landmark episode in the series,
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  Speaker 2: for sure.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And I think you mentioned it's a lot of people's favorites, right?
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  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like, anybody that, like, all of the Rory Logan shippers,
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  Speaker 2: this is, like, their episode.
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  Speaker 5: So, let's just start there.
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  Speaker 3: So, I know I said last week that, like, I
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  Speaker 3: understand as an adult being a Logan girl.
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  Speaker 5: And this episode, I was like, get it. I get
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  Speaker 5: the appeal.
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  Speaker 3: And I know we get annoyed with him over time
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  Speaker 3: and he does things that piss us off.
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  Speaker 5: I know that. But like, man, they couldn't have brought
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  Speaker 5: a more charming person into this show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. For sure.
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  Speaker 5: Matt Zucree is very charming.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. He's very charismatic for sure.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, little things like from the, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: know it comes off the last episode, but they did
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  Speaker 3: like a previously on like from like Chatting her in
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  Speaker 3: like the AOL messenger to like, and just looking at
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  Speaker 3: her as she types to, I don't know the way
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  Speaker 3: he's like, the one part I noticed is when he's like,
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  Speaker 3: pick the right size dress for her. And I was like,
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  Speaker 3: that was so, and also he thought about it. So
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  Speaker 3: it's like he was, and then leaving, you know, made
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  Speaker 3: sure someone got a photo on her camera and leaving
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  Speaker 3: it behind her door with the gorilla.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, listen, that's a girl's dream to have him.
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  Speaker 5: someone remember all those details.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah. I, I thought he was very chivalrous. He
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  Speaker 2: was very charismatic. The thing about the dress, I didn't,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't really like the, I thought the idea was
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  Speaker 2: nice that he had a dress for her, but I
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  Speaker 2: didn't like the way he said, I have an eye
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  Speaker 2: for dress sizes. Like that was kind of creepy. But
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  Speaker 2: other than that, I totally agree with you. And it also,
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  Speaker 2: like we talked about in the last episode, it, there's
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  Speaker 2: this widening gap between Dean and Logan that is becoming apparent.
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  Speaker 2: Like they're really emphasizing how she's, she had pivoted, you know,
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  Speaker 2: to Dean at the end of last season, but now
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  Speaker 2: we see that she's moving away from Dean and like
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  Speaker 2: leaving him behind to go because there, you know, things
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  Speaker 2: with Logan, like that's opening up like a whole new
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  Speaker 2: world to her. So it's really interesting. kind of emphasizing
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  Speaker 2: the difference between Logan and Dean. And so we're starting
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  Speaker 2: to see, you know, it's not, it's just hard to
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  Speaker 2: meet up with Dean and she has to drive or
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  Speaker 2: he has to drive.
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  Speaker 5: And also the Logan stuff just seems way more entertaining
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  Speaker 5: than hanging out with Dean.
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  Speaker 2: For sure. Exactly. Like he's just this small town guy
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  Speaker 2: and she's going to go, you know, watch him stock
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  Speaker 2: shelves at dozies or something like that. Doesn't seem nearly
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  Speaker 2: as interesting as going to this forest.
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  Speaker 5: Which, by the way, what a beautiful set.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. It was nice. It was two different places from
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  Speaker 2: what I've read.
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  Speaker 5: Griffith Park.
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  Speaker 1: It was, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Everything is in Griffith Park. But one of, if you
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  Speaker 2: watch it again, I think it was like the nighttime
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  Speaker 2: scenes where they were in the camp area with the tents.
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  Speaker 2: It's all pine trees. And then when they were, the
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  Speaker 2: daytime part when they did the jump, like they were
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  Speaker 2: like oak trees or something.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But it was magical, like with the twinkling lights and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: And also, I know it's cool, but when you really
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  Speaker 3: think about it, you're like, man, they just basically joined
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  Speaker 3: a cult.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 5: Like when you actually think about it, you're like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: This is weird.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I wanted Logan to answer Rory's questions when she's like,
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  Speaker 2: who set this up? Like, who pays for this? Where
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  Speaker 2: are we? Who owns the land? Like, I wanted to
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  Speaker 2: hear the story about how this all came to be.
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  Speaker 3: But I think that's the cool part about it. Because
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  Speaker 3: we never know. It's supposed to be this secret society.
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  Speaker 3: And to this day, we don't have those answers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So, I mean, she's being a journalist. She's doing her job.
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  Speaker 3: And he did not budge.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. It was pretty cool. And also I love how like,
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  Speaker 3: I think it's in the next episode, right? I haven't
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  Speaker 3: watched it yet, but that she writes the article. And
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  Speaker 3: wasn't it Doyle's like, how did you get this or
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  Speaker 3: something like that?
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  Speaker 2: Wasn't that?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: It wasn't this episode, right?
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 2: Cause she hasn't turned anything in yet.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Cause at the very end she picks up the camera
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  Speaker 4: and stuff from behind her door.
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  Speaker 5: You're right. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 5: So that's coming. But like, it's just cool to be like,
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  Speaker 5: look what she did.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And also when the, um, the gorilla girl, what a
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  Speaker 3: terrible name to give her poor girl. She could tell that, like,
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  Speaker 3: Rory was charmed by Logan, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 5: When they're talking.
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  Speaker 2: And she's like, there's a line to get to him.
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  Speaker 5: Her name is Stephanie.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Well, Rory calls her Gorilla Girl.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: But, yeah, she, yeah, I mean, the whole, that part
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  Speaker 5: of this episode, I loved.
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  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 5: The rest of it, don't care for it.
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Even Luke going to Emily's for dinner. I thought that
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  Speaker 2: was hilarious.
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  Speaker 3: I felt really bad. And so it made me just
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  Speaker 3: bummed for Luke. Like who do they think they are
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  Speaker 3: for like just insulting him for his business and all that.
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  Speaker 5: And so I think that pissed me off.
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  Speaker 3: And the fact that he got like double whammied by
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  Speaker 3: both of them like at the dinner and golf.
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  Speaker 4: And then like the point where he's golfing and like
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  Speaker 4: basically making fun of him.
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  Speaker 5: For not knowing how to golf.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Yeah, I can see that.
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  Speaker 3: And so I just felt bad for him. It was entertaining.
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  Speaker 3: I just felt bummed. And then the other part is
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  Speaker 3: I just feel like the Lane stuff is so cringe.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Although I had to laugh when they're trying to
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  Speaker 2: have their date on the living room couch and Brian
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  Speaker 2: comes in and he wedges himself.
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  Speaker 5: I will say that was fun.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, that made me laugh because he's like, they're like,
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  Speaker 2: we're on a date. He's like, but this is what
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  Speaker 2: we did last night. Like he was so confused, understandably,
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  Speaker 2: because this is exactly what happened last night. And that
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  Speaker 2: wasn't a date last night. But now tonight it is
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  Speaker 2: a date. I thought.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But generally, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Even the kiss was weird.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Having a date in the living room
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  Speaker 2: was cringy to begin with.
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  Speaker 5: But even the kiss.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Like it all.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right. A date in the living room. Couldn't
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  Speaker 5: you go to like the park at least? I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Right. I mean, there are options in Stars Hollow. You
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  Speaker 2: don't have to just have a date in your living room,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't know. I'm not a Zach fan at
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  Speaker 2: this point. I like him better later, but I don't
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  Speaker 2: like him right now.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's why I was like, let's just
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  Speaker 5: remember the.
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  Speaker 4: Here's the other thing.
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  Speaker 3: You put Rory and Logan in the same episode having
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  Speaker 3: this kind of special moment.
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  Speaker 5: With Zach and Lane. And you're like, well, how am
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  Speaker 5: I supposed to compare that?
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  Speaker 2: Right. Like, where is Lane's magic? Like, I want her
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  Speaker 2: to have.
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  Speaker 5: She doesn't have any. Right.
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  Speaker 2: I want her to, you know, have some kind of
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  Speaker 2: a nice experience, too. Like, Lane always has to settle,
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  Speaker 2: and I hate that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I know we didn't break down every scene,
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  Speaker 3: but that's what the recaps are for.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: But no, I mean, I love this episode. It's very memorable.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, there's literally merch about this episode. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Also, I meant to bring this up and I think
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  Speaker 5: it may have been.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's this episode in the beginning when Lorelai's wearing
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  Speaker 3: the pink coat, right? Oh.
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  Speaker 5: It's the beginning of this episode.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the beginning of this episode.
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  Speaker 2: She goes to Emily's at the beginning of the episode.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even notice.
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  Speaker 5: And then under the pink coat, she's wearing like a
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  Speaker 5: brown and pink heart. And I was like, is it Valentine's?
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  Speaker 5: It was very Valentine's Day to me. Yeah. We're definitely
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  Speaker 5: in fall.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was... it was it was brown but also
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  Speaker 2: hearts so it kind of like yeah it was.
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  Speaker 3: It was cute i was just like what season are
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  Speaker 3: we in anyway but i love the episode i didn't
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  Speaker 3: have any notes i didn't catch anything i was just
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  Speaker 3: thoroughly entertained the whole time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah the the only note that i had was when
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  Speaker 2: emily was giving them drinks and you know she makes
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  Speaker 2: sure that luke's luke wants a beer and She already
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  Speaker 2: had all the drinks ready on the tray. If you
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  Speaker 2: watch her, she just turns around.
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  Speaker 5: She grabs it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And here's the drinks. And then she's like, the beer
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  Speaker 2: is nice and cold. I'm like, how could the beer
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  Speaker 2: be nice and cold if it's been sitting there while
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  Speaker 2: you were waiting for them to show up?
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  Speaker 5: Unless she just put it there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe.
• 9:30
  Speaker 5: That could be it.
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  Speaker 2: But I thought it was a good episode. I liked
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  Speaker 2: the Lorelai and the Gilmore thing just because there was
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  Speaker 2: parts of it that were funny. Like, I do totally
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  Speaker 2: get that it was not... I mean, they're never very
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: nice to him for no reason other than that they're
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  Speaker 2: just snobby. But there were some funny parts. And, like,
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  Speaker 2: when he's at the golf course and, you know, laurel
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: is like you stay away from the deboncorn guy like
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: my husband and i just will randomly pull that line
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  Speaker 2: out for no reason but yeah so i i did
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  Speaker 2: i it went by so quick like it was over
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  Speaker 2: so quickly because you're just was action the whole time
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  Speaker 2: so yeah definitely definitely a good episode.
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  Speaker 5: Was that your only note the drinks Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't have anything else because I just was watching the episode.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 5: But also we were so out of our element. There
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  Speaker 5: was like nothing really, you know?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I do want to shout out to the writers, though,
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  Speaker 2: for that whole section of dialogue that did not use
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  Speaker 2: the letter E. That must have been hard to write.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. I have to give them a shout out.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, by the way, this is a Kenny Ortega episode.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to mention that, too. And I forgot.
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  Speaker 5: Did you notice it said Kenneth Ortega? Oh, no, I didn't.
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  Speaker 5: It threw me off. And I was like, oh, is
• 10:50
  Speaker 5: it the same person? I mean, I'm sure it is.
• 10:52
  Speaker 5: But it said Kenneth Ortega.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, is that was that different? I can't even remember
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  Speaker 2: now other episodes.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know. But I was just like in that moment,
• 11:00
  Speaker 5: I was watching it.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, huh, I didn't even pick up on
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  Speaker 2: that part.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah i have no idea.
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  Speaker 2: But but that explains why it's so enjoyable.
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  Speaker 3: It does and you know the most memorable episodes have
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  Speaker 3: to do with kenny ortega like the other one right
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  Speaker 3: off the top of my head is the the dance-a-thon
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  Speaker 3: yeah yeah and the one with the dinner table yes
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  Speaker 3: that's what.
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  Speaker 2: I was trying to articulate.
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  Speaker 3: That's exactly that's what makes this show and like the
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  Speaker 3: writers because that's also the writers like but the direction
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  Speaker 3: of that is kenny ortega and like The fact that
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  Speaker 3: I can say, oh, when they spin and they're talking,
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  Speaker 3: and you're like, I know which episode. By the way,
• 11:37
  Speaker 3: we're watching this during fall season, and let me tell you,
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  Speaker 3: it is nice. I had a candle on watching these episodes.
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good idea. I should do that.
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  Speaker 5: Except while we're recording this, it's like 100 degrees outside.
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: I know. I've got all the air conditioners on right now.
• 11:52
  Speaker 5: My air conditioner is about to break. It's been on
• 11:54
  Speaker 5: for so many days.
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  Speaker 3: For people who don't know, while we're recording this, there's
• 11:59
  Speaker 3: a heat wave in Los Angeles, and.
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  Speaker 5: It's miserable. So I'm jealous whoever can wear a jacket.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. My thermometer thing says, let's see, right now it's
• 12:11
  Speaker 2: 4 o'clock in the afternoon, and my thermometer is 87
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  Speaker 2: degrees outside, and that's the coolest that it's been in
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  Speaker 2: a week.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, you want to see how hot it is outside
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  Speaker 3: my house? You're closer to the beach. Mine says 98. 98. Oh, geez.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I took my dog for a walk. Well, not for
• 12:27
  Speaker 5: a walk.
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  Speaker 3: I just put him out to like go to the
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: bathroom before I went to bed at like 10 o'clock
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  Speaker 3: the other night. And it was 85 degrees.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, my gosh.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: It's bad.
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  Speaker 1: I have a question for you guys. I'm going to
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: hop in here.
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: Please do. For you super fans.
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: Um, before Gilmore Girls, did you guys know about these
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: Yale secret societies? Cause I had no idea.
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: No, I didn't know.
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  Speaker 1: Like there's Skull and Bones. Apparently George W. Bush was
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  Speaker 1: part of it. And like George.
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  Speaker 2: I did.
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  Speaker 3: I did know because you have to remember, I watched
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  Speaker 3: this when I was 12. So I think like what
• 13:11
  Speaker 3: literally I was, I was actually just turned 12 when
• 13:13
  Speaker 3: this episode came out. And I think I remember like
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: looking it up to be honest, or like asking someone
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: cause I, I watched it and it's, but then when
• 13:23
  Speaker 3: the DVDs came out, I went back and I'm pretty
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  Speaker 3: sure I asked someone. So like, I actually did find
• 13:28
  Speaker 3: out before or after watching the show.
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  Speaker 2: Got it. And they did, they did comment during the
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: episode when they rang the gong, they said it was
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: like the 108th meeting. What I see, I wrote it down.
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  Speaker 2: It was, maybe I didn't write it down. It was
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: right before they jumped.
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  Speaker 5: Did they reference it?
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, here. Yeah. They said it was the 108th grand assembly. So, Oh, Clearly, like,
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  Speaker 2: these societies have been around for.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's, like, if you Google it, and this
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  Speaker 1: AI gives me Skull and Bones, Skrull and Key, Wolf's Head,
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  Speaker 1: The Ancient Age.
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  Speaker 3: The one thing, though, Jackie, is I didn't... I haven't
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: looked it up in a long time, is, like, some
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  Speaker 3: of the things they do the same.
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  Speaker 4: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 5: Like, do they wear masks and stuff?
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know. It just says, like, this one.
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: What's the detail of it? One of them has been
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  Speaker 1: founded in 1832. Skull and Bones. Yale's first secret society.
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: It's the most famous and notorious. You know, it's... Huh.
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: meets in a windowless stone building known as the tomb.
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  Speaker 5: Because I know about them. Type of thing.
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  Speaker 3: But I know about them, but I don't know, like,
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: if there's ever any details that's come out about it.
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: And I wonder, too, why Amy Sherman Palladino decided to
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: go this route with Logan, just to contrast what she was,
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: where she's from in Stars Hollow and bring her out
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: of her comfort zone. You know, like, why did she
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: include this?
• 14:47
  Speaker 5: I was thinking it's just some rich, preppy kid.
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: But it's, like, big and grand, and it's, like, not
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: subtle at all.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: I mean, it worked. Yeah, it did.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, it totally made me Google, is there secrets?
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: But I also wonder if it was a way to get, like,
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: to tap into, like, his family. Because he did mention,
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: was it his grandfather?
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: Yes, Elias.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: Remember the picture?
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: Yes, when she writes.
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: Down the name on the Post-it and puts it, it
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: says Elias Huntsberger.
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: And so I wonder if it was to tap into, like,
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: his family, because obviously, spoiler alert, we find out that
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: the Gilmores know the Huntsburgers, so.
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: And a way for her to, like, get out of
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: her little, like, Star's Hollow comfort zone.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: And another question that I see people bringing up on
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: social media is, why wouldn't Richard have been a part
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: of this? Oh, that's a good point. In that same
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: social echelon, so why would... he not have known about
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: life and death brigade or been in it. I mean,
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: maybe he was, but just never mentioned it, but it's just,
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: it's something interesting to think about.
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: It does seem like a small group though.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, now we don't know what it would
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: have been like when Richard was there.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking of, I'm just picturing like all those people
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: who were standing before they jump.
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: It's like, it can't be more than 15, 20. Right.
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: And there's thousands of kids in the school. So I
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: don't know.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: But it was a good episode.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: Such a good episode.
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: Jackie, this is your first time. No, you have now,
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: this is your second time around.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: Second time.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: The first time. On this end.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Yes, on this end. The first time I did Google.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: And then again, when I was, you know, doing prep
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: for this episode, where we just had Catherine Bayliss on.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: So she's the gorilla girl with Scott. So doing prep
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: for that episode, I looked it up again too.
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: So fun.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: I liked her. I wish she had been in more episodes.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: She was really good. What else has she played in, Jackie?
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: Do you know off the top of your head?
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: This is why we know her. She's Erica Marsh for
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: six episodes in One Tree Hill.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: And then she did Hit the Floor, which is like
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: that cheerleading one, dancing one. And for 41 episodes, she
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: was Kyle Hart. 2013 to 2018, Hit the Floor. And
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: One Tree Hill, she was six episodes, which I think
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: she is Lee Norris's mouth. Yeah, I think it's a
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: love interest for her.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, when you said the name, I was like, I
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: know that character.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: All right, well, next week we're going to talk about
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: season five, episode eight, The Party's Over.
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: We'll see you then.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Meeting adjourned.
• 17:57
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• 18:00
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