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NFL Week 5 Reactions: Saints Frustration, Cowboys Chaos & Fantasy Football Debates · The So-Called Sports Analysts

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  Speaker 1: Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome back to another episode. Episode number
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  Speaker 1: 175 of the So-Called Sports Analyst. Breck, how are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, brother, I am living the dream. I am living
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  Speaker 2: the dream. Week five just ended. Week five of the
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  Speaker 2: NFL season. We're all in pain and despair. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we're all. It's just me and you today.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And man, we're feeling it after this week. Am I right?
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  Speaker 2: It's a rough week. It's been a rough season for us.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Dude, you know what? Good thing both of our
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  Speaker 1: divisions are trash, bro. It doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. Apparently, the Bucks and
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  Speaker 2: the Falcons aren't. I don't know what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, I know, bro. But- You know what? Let me
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: say this. Let me say the intro, then we'll get
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  Speaker 1: to the Saints, right? The legendary Saints, right? So before
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  Speaker 1: we start this, find us on Twitch, TikTok, Instagram, YouTube,
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  Speaker 1: under TSESA or the so-called Sports Analyst. Whether it's to
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  Speaker 1: this live, make sure you show this to anybody that
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  Speaker 1: likes sports, but now we get to start. Last week,
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  Speaker 1: Brecken said the record is what they say they are,
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  Speaker 1: but I think they're moving at 5-0 right now, the
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  Speaker 1: way that they're playing. The Saints, imaginary 5-0, but Let's
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  Speaker 1: start with this Saints game. Saints lose to the Vikings.
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  Speaker 1: Vikings stay undefeated. They lose 23-13. The floor is yours.
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  Speaker 2: I can feel my heart racing right now, dude. I'm... Dude,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like actually kind of getting really pissed just reliving
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  Speaker 2: this game in reality. Just thinking about it. Yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 2: watching this game on the road back from a gender
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  Speaker 2: reveal party from out of town and... I am sweating.
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  Speaker 2: I am pissed. Now, going into this game, I called
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  Speaker 2: it out last week, if I'm not mistaken, and I said,
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  Speaker 2: I said, you know, I don't expect us to win
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: this game. There's a lot of things that can happen.
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  Speaker 2: I thought Olave would cook. Shuck does really well against
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  Speaker 2: the pressure. And, you know, the Vikings blitz at a
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  Speaker 2: historic rate. They blitz on, I believe it's 91%, almost
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  Speaker 2: 91% of defensive snaps overall. which is absolutely insane. Historically,
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  Speaker 2: the next closest team was like 16 years ago, and
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  Speaker 2: it was at, I believe, like 73% through the first
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  Speaker 2: five weeks. So obviously, Brian Flores is going to be
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  Speaker 2: a head coach next year. There's no way that he's not,
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  Speaker 2: you know, getting this team going undefeated with how stagnant
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  Speaker 2: this offense has looked prior to this game. But I
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  Speaker 2: will start off with this. Kellen Moore. You deceitful fucking liar.
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  Speaker 2: You bastard. You bastard. You had me believing that this fast-paced,
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  Speaker 2: high-octane offense was what we needed. This is what we needed, right?
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  Speaker 2: And you come in here. We live in third down
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  Speaker 2: and long. The Saints live in third down and long.
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  Speaker 2: We don't have a running back. Etienne got hurt. Guess what?
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  Speaker 2: When he was in, it didn't matter. We can't run
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  Speaker 2: the fucking ball. Our O-line, what happened? What happened? We
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  Speaker 2: had one of the better O-lines in the NFL. I
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  Speaker 2: get that our left tackle's injured, but that has nothing
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  Speaker 2: to do with the rest of the O-line. Cesar Ruiz,
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  Speaker 2: what's going on? Like, Eric McCoy, what's going on? We
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  Speaker 2: have some of the best interior O-linemen, and we cannot
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  Speaker 2: run the ball. And because we cannot run the ball,
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  Speaker 2: Tyler Shook is dropping back 50 times a game. This
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  Speaker 2: was his least amount of pass attempts, but he was
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  Speaker 2: getting lit up. It was absolutely frustrating. I mean... I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if we converted on third down once this
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  Speaker 2: whole entire game. I mean, it was absolutely ridiculous. Watching
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  Speaker 2: the game, it was insane. Tyler Shuck, what's so crazy
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  Speaker 2: to me is I'm not a delusional Saints fan. Whenever
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  Speaker 2: we drafted Shuck, I was like, what the fuck are
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  Speaker 2: we doing? Why are we taking this guy? This is true.
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  Speaker 2: He's one of the five players on our team that
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  Speaker 2: I am fully confident in. Everybody else, including the coaching staff,
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  Speaker 2: I have absolutely zero confidence in. The season's over. I'm
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  Speaker 2: already looking at mock drafts. I'm not going to be
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  Speaker 2: upset next week. I'm going into next week expecting to
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  Speaker 2: be disappointed. I'm expecting to get a top five overall pick,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm going to be happy. Now, we might squeak
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  Speaker 2: out a few wins, and if somehow, some way, some
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  Speaker 2: grace of God that we make the playoffs, there's no
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  Speaker 2: way we make it out of the first round with
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  Speaker 2: this team. It's absolutely insane. The only people that demand
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  Speaker 2: respect on this team, Alva Kamara, Cameron Jordan, Jonas Sanker,
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  Speaker 2: Chris Olave, and Tyler Shuck. That's it. Everybody else, Fuck
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  Speaker 2: right off, dude. This is absolutely insane. This is a
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  Speaker 2: professional NFL team. Tyler Shuck threw two interceptions. One of
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  Speaker 2: them was his fault. One of them, end of the game,
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  Speaker 2: trash time, touchdown. I'm not blaming this on Tyler Shuck
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  Speaker 2: because he literally can't do everything. He's been doing everything. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: I should add Johnson to that list. He hasn't been
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  Speaker 2: absolutely horrible. He does have a fumbling problem. But whenever
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  Speaker 2: you're that electric of an athlete, I don't really care
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  Speaker 2: that much. But other than that, what is going on, dude? Like,
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  Speaker 2: going into this season... Everybody was saying, hey, Saints underdogs,
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  Speaker 2: Saints underdog. Dude, we look like anemic out there. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what is going on. We play such
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  Speaker 2: old school. We can't handle a quarterback that runs faster
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  Speaker 2: than 15 miles per hour. I don't know what it is, dude.
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  Speaker 2: We play football like it's 2003. I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: the hell is going on. Actually, never mind. Michael Vick
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  Speaker 2: was in 2003. We play football like it's the 1980s.
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  Speaker 2: Like it makes no sense at all, dude. We have
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  Speaker 2: linebackers that can't keep up. I get that we have
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  Speaker 2: some players that are injured and we can't blitz as much,
• 5:54
  Speaker 2: but our linebackers can't keep up with quarterbacks. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Kyler Murray has looked not that good through these first
• 6:00
  Speaker 2: four weeks. I mean, he's been injured. Yeah, it absolutely
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  Speaker 2: balls out. He starts off 12 for 12, ends up
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  Speaker 2: going absolutely insane in this game. 24 for 30. He
• 6:08
  Speaker 2: was super efficient. 230 yards. And, I mean, luckily, Chase Young,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, shit, dude, if he keeps on playing like
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  Speaker 2: how he's playing, he might be DPO-wide, but it's for
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  Speaker 2: fuck all. I mean, look at how the Saints are playing. Like,
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. It's going to end up looking like
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  Speaker 2: Miles Garrett on the Browns. It's like, who the fuck
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  Speaker 2: cares that Miles Garrett broke the sack record? You guys
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  Speaker 2: still suck. We're starting to look like that. Chase Young
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  Speaker 2: has had a sack in every single game. The game, yo.
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  Speaker 2: and has forced fumbles in two of those games as well.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like he's getting pressure. He's playing like a
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  Speaker 2: second overall pick for us, which is absolutely insane. I
• 6:44
  Speaker 2: love to see it. But dude, we're getting to Kyler Murray.
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  Speaker 2: We're getting the sacks. So what blows my mind is
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  Speaker 2: we live in third down and long because we can't
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  Speaker 2: outrun the ball. The Vikings didn't do insane at running
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  Speaker 2: the ball. I get that they had 160 yards rushing.
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  Speaker 2: Majority of that was on Kyler. It was because Aaron
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  Speaker 2: Jones had a lot of touches. Aaron Jones had a
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  Speaker 2: shit ton of touches. He wasn't super efficient. He had
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  Speaker 2: two long runs of like 15, 20 yards. But other
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  Speaker 2: than that, he was getting like two, two and a
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  Speaker 2: half yards of carry. And so it's like we're stopping
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  Speaker 2: the run. But because they're able to somewhat run the ball,
• 7:24
  Speaker 2: their third downs are third and four. Third and five.
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  Speaker 2: Third and three. Third and one. Our third downs are
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  Speaker 2: third and 14. Third and nine. Third and eight. It's like, dude,
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  Speaker 2: it's so aggravating. And, I mean, Justin Jefferson. Like, can
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  Speaker 2: we talk about it, dude?
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  Speaker 1: That was a crazy catch. Crazy catch.
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  Speaker 2: Of course he has to come back. He has to
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  Speaker 2: come back this week. He can't sit out another week.
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  Speaker 2: He has to come back.
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  Speaker 1: It's hometown. Dude.
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  Speaker 2: He comes back. And what blows my mind, dude, is
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  Speaker 2: Drew Brees is up there with his gold jacket on
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  Speaker 2: telling us what is our offense doing? Why are we
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  Speaker 2: doing this? Why are we not establishing the run? We
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  Speaker 2: ran the ball 11 times this game compared to 36
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  Speaker 2: times that the Vikings ran the ball, right? And so
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  Speaker 2: Drew Brees is up there. Give Tyler Shook, why is
• 8:17
  Speaker 2: he in shotgun every single play? Get him under center.
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  Speaker 2: We've seen what it's done for these other quarterbacks in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL and how it's boosted their metrics. Tyler Shook
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  Speaker 2: is an insane talent. He's still top five in passing
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  Speaker 2: yards in the NFL with this dog shit performance. Like
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  Speaker 2: he's been balling out. He has that wide receiver one.
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: He has that tight end one. His wide receiver two
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  Speaker 2: has been overperforming this whole entire season. Like his tackle
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  Speaker 2: is decent enough to get him by. We need to
• 8:43
  Speaker 2: get under center. We need to run the ball. Even
• 8:45
  Speaker 2: if we can't actually run the ball, just get the
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  Speaker 2: system in. Pause those linebackers for a second. They shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: be able to blitz on 91% of their defensive snaps
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  Speaker 2: against us. That is absolutely insane. We need to be
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: able to punish that, especially with the second most efficient
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  Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFL this season against the blitz. Like
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  Speaker 2: Tyler Shuck has been doing Really good against the Blitz.
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  Speaker 2: And it's just, oh, I'm just, dude, I'm so, I'm so.
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  Speaker 1: You got yourself pissed again.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so over it. Dude, I'm so over it, bro.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so over it. Our special team sucks. Like, we're
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: fumbling the ball on special teams. We're causing turnovers, right?
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, going into this game, I was like,
• 9:30
  Speaker 2: we're going to lose, all right? Unless, unless we cause turnovers.
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  Speaker 2: What do we do? We force two fumbles. We don't
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  Speaker 2: do dick all with it because we fumble the fucking
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  Speaker 2: ball on special teams. Barrett Brown, you were a dog
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  Speaker 2: at LSU. What is going on? Why are we fumbling
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  Speaker 2: so often, dude? Get Kendre Miller back returning these kicks.
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: He was electric. Kendre Miller needs to run the ball more.
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  Speaker 2: He had 10 for 30. That is horrible. That is horrible.
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  Speaker 2: With a long of nine yards, I don't care. he's
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  Speaker 2: our best running back right now ak is a ghost
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  Speaker 2: of himself i'm sorry etn please come back as soon
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  Speaker 2: as possible we need you Jordan Tyson, we need you.
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  Speaker 2: Or you know what? Never mind. Actually, I said I
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  Speaker 2: gave up on this season. Let's punt to next year.
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  Speaker 2: You know what? All you guys just sit out the
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  Speaker 2: rest of this season. Tyler Shuck, let Rattler act like
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  Speaker 2: he can be the first-string quarterback for a couple of
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: weeks and go ahead and rest up your hand because
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: I know that you're a little bit injured, all right?
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: And 2027 with Jeremiah Smith, Jordan Tyson, and Chris Olave
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  Speaker 2: on the Saints is going to look real nice.
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: That would be filthy right there. But I'm letting you know,
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: the next three games for the Saints, I'm just saying,
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  Speaker 1: Giants in Paris versus the Steelers, Browns and then Panthers. Lost.
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  Speaker 2: Lost.
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  Speaker 1: Brecken, I could easily see y'all stringing off these next
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: three games.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, we're going to win these next three games to
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: get me a little bit of a hard-on, right?
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: This is like the girl at the club.
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: That eggs you on. The girl at the club that's
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: shooting you those eye shots, and you're like, okay, okay,
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  Speaker 2: you go to talk to her. She shoots you down.
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  Speaker 2: Her best friend is playing some of the best defense,
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: the left tackle for the Saints. Kelvin Banks is over there.
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  Speaker 2: playing some of the best defense, shutting you out, right?
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  Speaker 2: And you go, fine, the night's over. You go outside,
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: you bump into her again. You're like, oh my gosh,
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: it's going to happen. I'm going to take someone home, finally.
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: And then the Uber doesn't show up. And then she's
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: too drunk and you feel bad. And so you just
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: send her home. That's what's going to happen because that's
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: what happens every single season with the Saints, dude. This
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: is what happens every single season with the Saints. I
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: hate this shit. Taylor Moore, I know where you live.
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: You live where Derek Carr used to live, all right?
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: I know where you live. I think it's called like
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: Monroe Heights, if I'm not mistaken. Kellen Moore. Watch out.
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: You know what? This was one thing that I've talked
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: about even two years ago with Kellen Moore. Are you
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: finally starting to see what I've said? Okay, I did
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: say he was coach of the year candidate, but I
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: always did say I have my doubts about Kellen Moore.
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: He was my coach of the year pick. He was
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: my coach of the year pick. Yeah, he was mine too.
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, bro. Yeah. Oh my gosh, dude.
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  Speaker 1: But do you see what I mean now about Kellen Moore?
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: It was him and Clint Kubiak and I was like,
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: I'm going to ride with my guy. I'm going to ride.
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: What the fuck was I thinking? What the fuck was
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: I thinking? Let me see. Oh my gosh.
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: Who's my coach of the year? Yeah, coach of the
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: year was Kellen Moore. Yeah. Oh, that's brutal now.
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. What's going to happen, dude, is we're
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: going to turn it around. We're going to string together
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: a bunch of wins, and then it's going to be
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: like a fluke-ass Coach of the Year award, like what
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: fucking that bitch in Atlanta has been getting the last
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: two seasons on the Browns.
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: Let me just list the rest of the schedule. Giants, Steelers, Browns,
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: Panthers in New Orleans, Chicago, Cincinnati. Packers and New Orleans, Panthers, Bucks, Cardinals, Falcons, Bucks.
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: You want to know what the funniest part is? We
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: have the second easiest schedule. We have the second easiest schedule.
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're 9-8. We're destined for it. You're right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all are going to be 9-8 and sneak into
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: No, we're not. We're going to be 9-8, and we're
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: going to lose. Who do we play? We're going to
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: lose to the Bucks in Week 18, and then the
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: Falcons are going to fucking make it. Or the Panthers
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: are going to make it or some shit like that.
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: Out of every team in the division, would you rather
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: the Panthers make it?
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: Panther, like out of, obviously, yes. Fuck the Dirty Birds, bro. Genuinely,
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: last week's loss was so embarrassing. It's one of those losses.
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: It reminds me.
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  Speaker 1: What was it, the dome coming? That's what they call it?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Dude, it was so embarrassing. It was like. It
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: was like, this was just pure frustration. Last week was embarrassing.
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to really talk about it last week.
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  Speaker 2: I was depressed last week. It was as bad as, like,
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: NFC Championship. Oh, there's two of them. There's two of
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: them in the NFC Championship. There's 2011 NFC Championship with
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: fucking the 49ers tied in.
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: I always forget his name.
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: Yes. And then there's the Diggs. And then there's the, oh, dude.
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: I'm not kidding. Last week.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: Foster Monroe.
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  Speaker 2: Last week, it was a top five just deflating loss.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: Man, you would say that's top five?
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: Dude, like, losing to the Falcons? Losing to the Falcons? Like,
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: at least when the Cowboys lose to the Eagles, it's like,
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, they're good.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, I buy that. I buy that.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: Dude, it's like, it's... Because you guys... Like, my level
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: for the hate on the Falcons is the same as
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: the Cowboys hate for the Eagles. I don't think that
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: you guys hate the Commanders or hate the Giants to
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: the same level, right? And so, imagine the Eagles are
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: a dogshit team and you lose to them. Okay, okay.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: I see exactly what you mean. I see exactly what
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: you mean. Well, there was something last week. I don't
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: think I mentioned it, but Every single time there's a
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: dome coming for the Saints, they play the Falcons, and
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: they get straight bail.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been horrible.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: They just get straight bail, bro. Oh, man.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: I think last time it was Julio Jones had like
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: 160 yards on us.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and like Matt Ryan, they went crazy.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It was something like that.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: I love it, bro. I love it. I love being
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: a– I don't know why I'm a fan of the.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: Saints, bro. The life of a Saints fan.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: It's horrible. It's so bad. Genuinely, in this draft, who
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: do we take? The DN from UT?
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: Colin Simmons?
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: That would be.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: Or the Notre Dame corner, because that's what we need.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Get the fuck out of here.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: It would be Moore. I forgot his first name.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: He's a dog. Give me the corner from Notre Dame.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: The offense is in the front.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: I'm already looking at mock drafts, bro. I'm already looking
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: at mock drafts.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: Dude, the offense isn't the problem, but like I said,
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, he loves to pass the ball. And yes,
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: you do have the firepower for it, but you need
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: to run the ball and establish the run so the
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: play action can open up.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: He had Zeke. He had Zeke. He had Saquon. He
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: even ran the ball with Tony Pollard. He did throw
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: the ball a lot.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: There were tendencies where games would go, like a stretch
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: of games, where they would not run the ball. There
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: would be like 15... there'd be like 15 total rushes
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: or 20 at most in the game. And then Dak
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: would be throwing the ball. Even with Justin Herbert, they'd
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: throw the ball like 40 times a game. Like, it's
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: good if you have a good quarterback. Yes, I get that.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: But you need to establish a run. And he just
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: doesn't do that.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: And he just sits in shotgun. Just sits in... And
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: it's like, holy crap, dude. If the defense... So you
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: got Brian Flores... hands down the greatest defensive mind active
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: in the NFL. Hands down. For sure, yeah. Hands down, right?
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: If not, if not, it's the Seahawks with Mike McDonald, right?
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: And so you're going against this guy with an amazing
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: defensive mind, and what do you do? You go, hey,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: line up and shotgun and throw the ball every single play.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: It's almost like if they know what you're going to do,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: they're going to react to it.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: The only time Kellen Moore didn't throw the ball is
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: when he didn't have a quarterback in Philly.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: But even then he did throw the ball like.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: A– Yeah, like 30, 35 times.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like– Dude, it's so– It's so– We
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: live in third down and long. Like nothing's easy. Nothing's
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: a gimme. Tyler Shuck has to like play at this
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: outstanding level. We don't get a– There's not a single
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: like gimme play. There's not like, okay, there's the Chris
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Olave like 8 to 10 yard hitch route, right? And
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: that's it. That's it. And the only reason that works
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: is because Chris Olave is so fast that these corners
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: are scared that he's going to beat them over top.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: If these corners start sitting on that hitch route, we
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: don't have a go-to gimme that play. It's so....
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: What's the next game?
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: I'm over this shit.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: No, ETN's out for, I think, three more weeks. He
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: got placed on the IOR. Dang.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: He's out another three weeks? Holy crap.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Jordan Tyson got extended. He got extended?
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Holy crap.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think he's got four.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Or five more weeks. He's not going to be back
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: until mid-November?
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Holy crap.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Jeez. Well, let's... Let's talk about this crazy game right here,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills and the Los Angeles Rams, where when
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: you think one team was going to win, you had
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: it completely wrong. There was a total of 35 points
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. So the Bills, they go up.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: They go up 34 to 27 matt stafford clock situation
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: i mean i'd even tell you that it was a
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: if it paid off it paid off but that was
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: kind of a little that was kind of a little
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: risky right there just from first-hand experience and over time
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: bills they almost scored touchdown with shakir get shoestring tackled
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: then the bills missed the field goal then the rams
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: missed the field goal then the bills they know james
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: cook fumbled that's what it was yeah yeah So this
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: crazy game, out of all this stuff, what's the first
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: thing you take away from it?
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, man. Dude, I don't.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Know.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Just a master class all around. People predict this to
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: be the Super Bowl, and for a very good reason.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: The most important players, in my opinion, made the biggest
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: plays in this game, and that's the coach and the quarterback, right?
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: And both of these teams have some of the best
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: coaching and some of the best quarterbacks. And, like, we
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: see that on display. Like, over the last two weeks,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: everybody in the NFC East has made horrible clock management decisions.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: And the Rams, I was shitting bricks. Like, they don't
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: have time. Call the timeout. Call the timeout. And then...
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Four seconds left, they got it off, and they got
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: the touchdown. And it's like, okay, never mind.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: That could have ended really bad, though. They had the
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: timeout in the bag.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: I think McVay would have hit it either way. I
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: put in the group chat, I was like, everybody in
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: the NFC East, write that down, write that down, write
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: that down. Because it was a coaching masterclass, and I
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: know McVay was fired up after the game saying that
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: he was disappointed in himself, didn't call a great game
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that. But, man, whenever your offense is
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: hanging up 400 passing yards and then you're running it
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: for like another 70, 80 yards, dude, it's just like, man,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: you're just absolutely balling out. And then for the Bills
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: to be able to kind of limit the Rams' running attack,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: now they got it done through the air, which is
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: what you expect from this team. But recently it's been
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: this dual-headed backfield with Kyron and Blake Cora. Now, was
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: that because Puka was out? Or was that because that's
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: what the offense was running? Who really knows, right? Sean
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: McVay is so creative. He could probably pick whatever he
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: wants per game. And, you know, he ended up bringing
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: out the big guns with Matthew Stafford here. Now, I think,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: I do think that if, what's his name, Miles Garrett
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: played this game, it would have been a different outcome. Because,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, Josh Allen led the team in rushing and
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: ran for, what was it? 121 yards.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was insane. It was just big play after
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: big play every time.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: And I'm not going to lie, whenever Josh Allen threw
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: that interception, he almost threw a second one that was like,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: what are you doing? And like this shows– so last
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: week Josh Allen made these mistakes and they lost. And
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: it showed like everybody was like, dude, Josh Allen isn't
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: playing at an MVP level, which still I think that
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: he needs to play a little bit better. Like, I
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: didn't think that he had a great game, to be honest.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: He threw one interception and really should have thrown two.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: And just dumb, rookie-looking interception. And that's what you get
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: with Josh Allen. I think the teleprompter was saying that
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: he was second in the NFL in interceptions since 2018. Yeah,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: something like that, yeah. Which is absolutely insane. Whenever you're
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: saying an MVP, you know, contender-level quarterback, is second in
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: the NFL since 2018 with interceptions. But this is kind of,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: you got some give and some take with Josh Allen.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: You have the give with the dumbass, what are you doing?
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Why are you throwing that? But then you will take
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: the 10 rushes for 122 yards. And let me put
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: the team on my back. in overtime and rushed this
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: into field goal range for us. Did you see that
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: that was called an inside zone play? And it was
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: just Josh Allen. Yeah, so it was called an inside
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: zone play. Josh Allen went up to the line because
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: they brought down the safety, checked it because he had
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: a two tight end on the right side, checked it,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: and then was just took off with the ball. That
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: was not the design of the play at all or
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: anything like that. Holy crap. I watched a whole video
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: break down. Because I was like, this is absolutely insane.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: And the guy was breaking down whenever they run in
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: this two-by tight end set where they're bunched tight to
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: the line on the right side. You know, they typically
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: run the ball on an inside zone to the left
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: or a trap play to the left. And what's his name?
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: The running back, James Cook, was looking for the ball
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: and Josh Allen just took off. And I mean, that's
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: what you get. Like I said, this is the give
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: and take with Josh Allen. And then Matthew Stafford, I mean,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: didn't make a mistake. Didn't make a mistake. Played 55
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: pass attempts and, you know, completed 40 of them for
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: 400 yards. Just absolutely balled out. He has his wide
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: receiver one back with Puka. And, you know, I know
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: a couple weeks ago I was thinking, like, I was
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: doing a little bit of arguing with some guys that
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: don't know a lot of ball, right? And they were
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: saying that Chris Olave sucked. Chris Olave sucked. Maybe I'm
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: a little bit biased, but I said Chris Olave was
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: borderline top five. In reality, I thought he was like
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: the seven, like the eight or seven range. And then
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: I was bringing up the fact that like the only
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: wide receivers taken from Chris Olave's draft class to now
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: that I would, you know, say are better than him
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: are Puka and JSN. And I said, Puka's close. I
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: take that back. Puka's better than Chris Olave. I don't
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: know what I was thinking two weeks ago. Dude, he
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: is a dog. He's a dog. He attacks the ball.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: He never goes down either.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: I said if you put George Pickens in Puka's spot,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: George Pickens would be doing the same, if not better.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: I don't agree with that statement after this game. Dude,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Puka was absolutely... He was taking over this game. I mean,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: with Matthew Stafford. And then, I mean, it's so nice
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: that you have a Devontae Adams. He didn't go absolutely nuclear,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: but he showed up when you needed him. He showed
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: up in the red zone. He showed up on third
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: down and long. And it's like, you love to have
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: that veteran... wide receiver in your room that you're able to,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: you know, count on your reliable third down guy. It
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: reminds me of like Adam Thielen on, on the Vikings
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: or like, uh, um, what's his name? Lockett, Tyler Lockett
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: on the Seahawks. Like these, these a little bit of
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: older and then honestly, he's better than both of those guys.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Like if we're being realistic, this guy's debatable, still a
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: top 15 wide receiver in the NFL. And you just–
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: that's why you got to keep a guy like this
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: in your locker room. I get that they're paying him
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: a lot of money on this one-year contract. But, I mean,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: he's worth every single penny because you lose Puka for
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: two weeks and he steps up. Puka comes back and
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: what does he do? He's your security blanket. He's your
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Roth IRA. He's your S & P 500, right? He's
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: not risky. You throw the ball his way, he's going
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: to figure out a way to come down with it.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Just– Absolute masterclass of the game. There were several games
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: this week that were just absolute masterclasses, and this was
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: one of them.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, one thing I'm going to say, and I
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: feel like I brought this up before, like in previous pods,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: not necessarily this year, but Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: one thing that their biggest downfall is they do not
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: care about special teams. And it's weird because the other
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: coaching tree, like Kevin O'Connell... They have, I think, the best. Okay, yeah,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I have a pull-up right here. As far as EPA,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: special teams EPA, Vikings are plus 25. You know who's
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: dead last? The Rams, negative 28 EPA. Then the Niners,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: they're ranked 29th. So whenever you don't care about special teams,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: it's going to bite you in the ass. And any
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: close game that the Rams, they have, is not necessarily
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: because the offense or the defense. And I get what
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Sean McVay, he was saying later on in the game
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: when Mivas had that 48-yard field goal. He kind of
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: got a little conservative not trying to get closer. But
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: your field goal kicker should be able to make that,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: a 48-yarder. And what's crazy is that the block honestly
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: helped the field goal kick. It looked like it was
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: going just straight left, in all honesty. Like, I'm not
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: even trying to be rude.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: It's so hard to judge. But, like, a kick, it's
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: almost like a golf swing, right? Like, when it comes
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: off the tee, you're like, oh, shit. And then it goes,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: and it could be the exact opposite. You'll hit it
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: off the tee, and you're like, oh, dude, that's left.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: And then it helps with your slice. Kicking is the
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: exact same thing, all right? So you never really know, man.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is true. I just think that all these
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: close games over the years with the Rams and they lose,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: it always comes down to special teams. And they just
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: never care. And I just think this might be a
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: downside for them in the playoffs compared to, Some of
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: these other teams in the NFC, I still think they're
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: one of the top dogs. But whenever you're going to
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: get to these nip and tug games in the playoffs
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: where every snap matters, this is going to end up
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: killing them.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, we've seen it last year in the championship, right?
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: With Seahawks, with Rashid.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Shaheed taking it back.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Very foolish play, yeah. Yeah, it's like this is why
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: they win Super Bowls. They went out and they traded
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: for Rashid Shaheed because there is– three levels to the
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: game it's not yeah offense defense it's offense defense and
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: special teams yeah.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: And arguably it can sway it could i mean we
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: saw like three separate games or especially one in london
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: where special teams really does matter on on back-to-back possessions
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: here and i think i just think this with the
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: bills like yes the bills they're winning these games yes
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: they're 4-1, but their defense is so atrocious. Like, we've seen, like,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not, they, yes, they held the Chargers and they
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: still end up winning that game, but it's the Chargers.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: We see how the Chargers, they look this year. But
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: every other team besides the Chargers, Patriots 29, Lions 31,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Texans 31, And other than the Lions, you– Lions, like
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: the Texans, you're not saying, oh, this is like a
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: world-beater offense. Like I'm really concerned for this Bills defense
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: right here because this defense is so bad. And Josh Allen,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: he already plays reckless ball as it is. And if
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: he has to play Superman the entire time, I think
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: compared to like the Chiefs or to the Ravens whenever
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson gets back or maybe another team like the
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Bengals who have a little bit stouter of a defense–
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: and compete with them offensively i feel like this is
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: what could keep them down right here so yes they
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: did have 200 rushing yards but like the defense being
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: this bad i feel like down the road this is
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: gonna this is gonna kill them i didn't mean to
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: like pick apart both these teams but great great game
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: great game overall though like but um also when does
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: dj more get back I'm trying to look right here.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I don't see when DJ more, I don't know.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: He, I use like week to week because of his shoulder,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: because it wasn't like, if I'm not mistaken, it wasn't
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: like a complete dislocation. It was like a, it was,
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: it was like a tendon on his bone or something
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: like that that got strained. And so it's a weird
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: thing where it's like a more of like, what's his
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: pain tolerance. Yeah. Mixed with like re-aggravation and it can
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: lead to like shoulder dislocation, but like, In reality, he
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: should just sit out two weeks, get fully healthy, and
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: he'll be good to go.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: No, but, all right, let's go to this next game
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: we have right here in which the Niners and the Seahawks,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: a battle of the division, which some statements that were
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: made in this game by both sides right here. Niners,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: they win 32-29. That Cooper Cup, or let me ask
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: you this first. Do you think that Cooper Cup catch,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: do you think that was a first down, or.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: What do you think? So I have mixed feelings about this.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Like I've said before, I don't want the VAR. I'm
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: cool with the ref making the decision on the field.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: But they do have a– like I've seen points where
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: it's like, okay, if the receiver's feet are inbounds but
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: the ball's out of bounds and they still catch it,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: it's considered inbounds. Like I totally get the whole other
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: arguments and stuff like that where it's like– but I
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: think the way that we solve this is the pylon
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: that is used for the first down markers on the
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: opposite side of the out-of-bounds, just move that to how
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: it is in the end zone, where if you hit
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: the pylon, it's a touchdown. It should be the same thing, right?
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: And then we get a way better view. Players are
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: reaching for a pylon to hit instead of reaching for
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: an imaginary line out-of-bounds, right? And so controversial call, yes. Um,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: there's been some games like I, everyone was talking about
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: a Kenneth Walker, um, first down earlier this season and
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: a really close game. I don't remember exactly. Um, and
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: you know, stuff like that where the ball's out of bounds,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: but then he jumps and leaps forward. And so it's
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: really the first down. So very controversial call. I do.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: I think it's a first down.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: My, my thinking is, I feel like since that was
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: such a close call, I felt like whatever the refs
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: called it on the field, I felt like they should
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: have stuck with it. Since there's not too much to
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: overturn it. That's my thinking.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: If it was called a first down, then keep it
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: a first down. But since it wasn't called a first down,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: because I think that would have been more of an
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: uproar if either one of those situations got overturned. I think, oh,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: it's like, oh.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: But that goes back on what I was talking about
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: last week with all these penalties. Where you're telling these refs,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: call it on the field. We can go back and
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: look at it and let you know. But then they
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: go with, ah, it's ticky tack. I don't know. Let's
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: just leave it as what it is on the field.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: And so we're running into the same issue here as
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: I feel about with all these penalties. And there was
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: a bunch in this game, if I'm not mistaken. I
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: think Seahawks had 11 for like 115 yards or something
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: like that. It was absolutely insane. Which makes sense. Division rivals.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: These teams fucking hate each other. They fight all the time. Like,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: it makes total sense. Players were getting ejected. There's one
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: player that's not playing next week and losing his game check.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Ernest Jones decided to punch.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Dre Greenlaw. Yeah, it was just, yeah, just absolutely. And
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: I love to see it. As an American man, I
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: love to see that, right? I love to combine UFC, MMA,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: WWE with my NFL on Sundays. But all jokes aside,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: like I was saying about these penalties and stuff, it's
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: so– I get reviewing the play and stuff like that.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: I like that we go with the call on the field.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: But I need these refs to make a call on
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: the field. New York can overturn it if, like, they
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: make the call. Like, we've seen that a couple times
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: this season already. But other than that, I don't like
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: the whole reviewing this thing, looking at it super close
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: and all that stuff. Because it's taking out the rarity,
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: the luck of the game. Teams get lucky. Teams get lucky.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: The Steelers a couple years ago went 11-0. Just don't look, right?
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: And so with this call, I get it. It was controversial.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Leave it as it was on the field, right? Of
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: course the Seahawks fans are going to be pissed. Leave
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: it how it was on the field.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, see, that's my thinking. I mean, they even used
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: to eject Ernest Jones in the game. New York said, hey,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: we saw this play on the sideline, headbutt this other guy,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: kick him out of the game. So it was used
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: exactly in this game. But also, like, people, they talk
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: about the Cooper Cup thing, but also, if JSN catches
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: that ball, there's no need to have this conversation.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Okay so i'm really active on twitter on sunday and
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: monday just because like you see all the funny memes
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: or like just seeing like other fan bases like talking
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: about it like seahawks fans are ripping jsn which i
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: don't get it like you're gonna have your superstar receivers
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: drop some footballs yeah no for real like you've seen
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: cd drop a ball puka dropped one yesterday uh-huh and
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: then jamar chasey dropped one and there was there's so
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: many times so like it's like chill this guy's been
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: like the best receiver for a year and a half
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: it's like he's gonna he's bound to finally drop to
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: drop one football but like i think the biggest thing
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: from here is that i'm gonna go back to the
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: saying that i said if the mac 10 jams i
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: know the glock purdy won't this is a mvp statement
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: right here two back-to-back drives where Seattle, they answered, so
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: kicked a field goal. Niners went up. Sam Darnold went
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: down the field, kicked a field goal. Then Glock Purdy's like,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: all right, cool. We're going to lead you right down
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: there to a game-winning drive. And that's exactly what he did.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, like, I don't think anybody's beating the
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Niners right now. Like, honestly, that November 15th game against
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys, terrified. Like, I am... I am terrified. I
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: think we're going to get BTA, like, they're not even
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: healthy yet. That's the thing about it. Deshaun Stripling isn't back.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, Deebo Samuel just went out. George Kittle was
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: sick in this game. And they're still finding ways to
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: win on the road against Seattle. So, that's, like, I
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: really can't say much else about the Niners. A healthy Seattle, too. Yeah,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: a healthy Seattle. Like, this coming from somebody who hates
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: San Francisco. Like, I do not like saying these words
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: right here, but Sam Fred, they look really scary right now.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're not wrong. And then like with, with
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: what they're doing with CMC, like last year, the offense
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: ran through him and this year he hasn't seen the
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: same rule, but I like it because this, this is
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: what happened with canine last year. I called it out
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: on the podcast and I was like, I get that
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: they're splitting the backfield with canine come playoff time. And
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: I was so annoyed because I had them in fantasy, right?
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: And so I'm like, he's so fucking talented. Just give
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: him the ball, right? Like, look at what he's doing
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: with the Chiefs. And debatable, Seahawks have a better own line.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: And it's debatable.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: It is debatable. Yeah, it's debatable.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: But we all know how good that they are at
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: running the ball. And so, like, we see what K-9
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: can do. We've seen what he did in the playoffs, right? Like,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: why didn't they do that the whole season? I feel
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: like they're almost doing the same thing with CMC here,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: where it's like they have a backup running back. Yeah,
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: he's not, like, super special offensively. He's solid. You know,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: he's good enough. I think, what was he, like a
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: seventh-round pick?
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: A third-round pick. No, he was a third-round pick. Oh,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: my gosh. Yeah, I thought Kalon Black was a third-round pick.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Let me double-check.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: He may have been a third-round pick, brother. I'm not
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: going to lie. This is one of the running backs.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, 90th overall, yeah. Third-round pick from Indiana.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: I had no clue about this guy until he was
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: on the 49ers.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: All right, I'm not going to lie.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: But I like the fact that they're able to spread
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: the wealth a little bit for the 49ers. Now, Seahawks.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Going into half. Why are we running the ball on
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: the two-yard line with four seconds left?
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh. Just kneel.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: It lost them the game. It lost them the game.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Just kneel it. Just kneel it. You can't. You can
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: do it. You can do it. Also, Sam Darnold, I
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: understand JSN is probably a top-two wide receiver in the NFL.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Not the whole offense, all right? We see Joe Burrow
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: throw to different people. We don't see Kyler Murray, but
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: we see CeeDee Lamb throwing to different people. And I get, oh, yeah,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: he has T. Higgins. Oh, yes, he has George Pickens. But, like, dude,
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: you have other guys. You have other guys. And you've
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: seen it in this game where Sam Darnold is dropping back, right?
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: He's dropping back, three-step drop. He's faking out. He's not
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: even– like he's coming up to the line doing this,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: doing this. You know what you see whenever you do this? Nothing.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: You're going too fast. The defense knows that you're just
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: fucking with them, right? And then you're going against some
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: of the best linebackers in the NFL. You're dropping back,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: trying to look off a safety. Dude, they're just doubling JSN.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: That's all they're doing. The safety doesn't care that fucking–
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Rashid Shaheed's running wide open on the left side because
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: he knows that you've thrown it to JSN 10 times
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: this game. I'm going to go cover the guy that
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: you've thrown it to 10 times this game, not the
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: guy that you've only thrown it to once on a
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: hitch route. Like, you have other players, Sam Darnold, and
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: this has been an issue for Sam Darnold, right? Since
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: his jet days. And this is always going to get
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: brought up whenever we talk about him performing bad, right?
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: And he didn't even have a horrible game. Like, yes,
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: he threw two interceptions. But, like.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: This is one of the best defenses in the NFL.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a really good defense. And he didn't, like, play...
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: He played bad. He didn't play atrocious, right? Yeah. Like,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: he wasn't playing, like... Fuck, who played really bad this week?
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Dak Prescott?
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, my.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: He wasn't playing like Dak Prescott this week, right?
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: That's so bad.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: He was playing pretty mediocre. And, dude, I just... It's just...
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: I guess it's more of a pet peeve of mine.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: I get that JSN is extremely talented, and he will
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: carry your team. He gets open better than anyone in
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: the NFL. But, man, you have other players. You have
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: other players. Hit A.J. Barner. You know, hit Rashid Shaheed
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: on a deep ball randomly. Like, it'll work. It'll work.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: It worked in the playoffs. It worked in the Super Bowl. Like,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: just try it out, Sam. Look at other people.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: And I just think that one thing, is that they
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: really do need Darian Price back whenever he gets back.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: They weren't able to.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: They're running game.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Emmanuel Wilson, he's doing serviceable right now. But against these
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: top dogs, you're going to need somebody.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: To run the football. I wouldn't mind him on the Saints.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: I know you wouldn't mind him. Right now, he's looking.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Like a top five running back, actually. I think he
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: had more rushing yards in this game where he averaged
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: three yards a carry than....
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: The entire season. I think so too, yeah.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: And he had 60 yards, by the way. He's 61 yards,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: by the way.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, 20 carries, 61 yards, yeah. No, but I agree
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: with that statement, but I think one thing that we're
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: also overlooking is that he also lost one of the
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: best OCs by far in the league, and you see
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: what he's doing with the Raiders. And I get that
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: it's a young coordinator you hired in, in-house and so
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: there's going to be some time but you really did
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: bring up a good point and i think maybe they
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: could be active for a wide receiver too i don't
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: i don't know any trade destinations or anywhere but like
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: just to open up just to open up the field
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: a little bit more i really do think seattle in
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: order for them to compete but.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I don't even know who would be on the market though.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: I mean there's always going to be somebody that pops
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: up btj may I was thinking the exact same thing.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: That's the only one that I can think of. Let
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: me see. Who else? I mean, Tyreek Hill, but in reality,
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: I think he's already bookmarked to go to the Chiefs.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: I'm not buying that Tyreek Hill. I'm not buying the
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill thing. Maybe, I don't know, Jeremy Bernard from
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: the Steelers. No, not DK. DK or Michael Pittman, no. Texans, Jets, Browns, no. Bengals, Dolphins, no.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: I think the wide receiver market's kind of tight. I know.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: It's like BCJ is like the only guy.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: That's the only guy, yeah. Now that I'm actually looking
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: at it, yeah, unless you go fishing around the commanders.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Maybe like an Adonai and Mitchell.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm, something like that. But I really
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: can't see nothing. I'm not going to lie to you.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, they need it. Like, yes, I get that
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: they traded for Shahid last year. He's a deep threat
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: and a little bit more of a special team guy. Now,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: he has a special place in my heart. Don't get
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: me wrong. I love you, Shahid.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: You got a picture of him. I do.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: I got a signed poster of him over there somewhere.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: I guess not. It's not hanging out. What the heck?
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Where's my poster?
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: I lost my Rashid Shahid poster, dude.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Josh is hiding it from you. I'm actually, like, You
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: actually look at where it's at.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no clue. That's crazy. I got a trash bin
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: right here that I'm taking out later today.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: No, that's just the Saints, bro. That's just the Saints, bro.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: It's a trash bin for a reason. No, but... Let's
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: go ahead and... Let's talk about the NFC East. Let's
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: talk about the NFC East.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: The NFC East....
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: All didn't win a game this entire weekend, and two
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: of them played each other this weekend. So, well, I
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: think quickly, we'll just talk about it quickly with the
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Giants and Commanders. The clock management from Jaden Daniels. I
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: just want to hear your opinion. This is your dynasty quarterback, too. Like, okay,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: why does he not throw the ball away right there?
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: You're right. I'm going to blame Dan Quinn because this
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: guy just happens to be on my dynasty team. I'm
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: going to blame Dan Quinn. Why are you even doing
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: anything there? Just send out the kicker. No, I'm just kidding.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: I think this is– everybody that's hating– because I've seen
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: people hating on Dan Quinn. I don't know why. They're wrong.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: But it might cost him his job. I'm not going
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: to lie.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Like for a whole it might and they're wrong like
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: everybody that is yeah and quinn is wrong like because
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: he called a pass play jayden daniels took off for
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: no reason.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: At all and then he was laying there he was
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: just chilling like he was just sitting.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: There i don't think it mattered anyways they weren't getting
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: the ball off either way but also the fact that
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: it's that they had 14 seconds he went down at
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: like At, like, what, 11 seconds left?
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: No, they had 50 seconds before they snapped the ball,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: so they got in the huddle and everything. Those, like,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: 20 seconds, like, went up to the line of scrimmage. Like,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Dan Quinn left you more than enough time to do
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: what you needed to do.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: And then on top of that, it's like, even after
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: he went down, they still had, like, I think it was, like,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: 10 or 11 seconds.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: You can't get lined back up and.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Throw it into the dirt in 10, 11 seconds. Like,
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: what the fuck? What are we talking about? You know
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: what it reminds me of?
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Go ahead and say it, bro.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: There's another NFC East team that couldn't do the same
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: thing a couple years ago. And the quarterback just happened
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: to be another potential MVP player. And Dak Prescott.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and get to that game right there. Oh,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: let's go. Let's go ahead. Let's go ahead. There's not
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: much to talk about with that blunder. But, yep. Cowboys
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: versus Bucks. Thursday night football. Cowboys are favored by 9.5.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: And we... I'm not going to say that on live.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: But the Cowboys, they lose 24-16. The Cowboys lose 24-16.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: And let me pull up this stat. I sent it
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: earlier in the group chat. I think you know which
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: one that I'm talking about. QBs, most fantasy points per
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: game since week one of 2025. Number one, Josh Allen,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: averaging 23 points a game. You know, respectable. You get that,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen, quarterback one. Number three, Brock Purdy, 21 fantasy
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: points a game. You know what? Been pretty good playing
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: like MVP candidate. Number four, Patrick Mahomes, 20 and a
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: half points. It's like, okay, Patrick Mahomes. Get explosive offense.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Number two, whichever quarterback is playing the Dallas Cowboys averages 22.9
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: points per game. Jalen Daniels. He is an undrafted free agent.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: And trust me, I love Jalen Daniels. I used to
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: play college football 25 with him, using him in the
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: spread offense with Devin Neal. This dude should not be
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: doing this. This Cowboys defense, like, genuinely, I don't watch
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: football games where I get pissed. Like, even if we're
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: getting blown out or it's a close game, like the Ravens,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: I was not pissed in that one. I was more like,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: holy crap, this is a great game. This is a blunder.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: This game had me fuming. This game had me fuming
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: right here. Like... and also that's another thing defense i
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: already expect this defense to be trash as hell and
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: then deron bland overpaid ass i can't stay on his
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: can't stay on his feet and all would have been
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: forgiven If you would have got the pick six. You know.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Tie game.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Or.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know why we went for two point conversion anyways.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Try to tie it. All would have been forgiven. But
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: you know what. Maybe you can't cover. But you know.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: You're a pick six king. You have the most pick sixes.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: In a season. You know how to at least get
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: the ball in zone. Apparently not. No you don't. You
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: can't even catch the ball. The one thing that you're
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: good at. You cannot do. No more. And. But this offense,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: where I'm more surprised at, CeeDee Lamb, after having 17 catches,
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: 189 yards, game-winning touchdown.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: OPOI.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: You didn't show up.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: OPOI.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: You didn't show up. Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott, after an
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: MVP-caliber performance, was an MVP talk. So even with odds, too,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: he was starting to rise up. Yes, he had 316 yards,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: a touchdown. But he had a terrible game. This is
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: where you have to go more than box score watching
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: because overthrow after overthrow after overthrow. The Jake Ferguson one,
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: don't get me started with that guy. That guy is
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: a terrorist. Like, that guy, that guy. Pretty much, 87.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: And he should, I mean, I've thought about it the
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: entire year. He's played really bad. And Brandon Spanford has
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: been a much better tight end overall blocking and even
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: catching the ball. but he should not even be playing.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: But the one to Ryan Flournoy, you cannot blame that
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: on Ryan Flournoy. That was a missile right there that
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: kind of hit the top of his head right there.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: So the times where you were driving.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: Dak Prescott would mess up time and time again. And
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: also one thing, we're running the ball well on the
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: first drive. And what does Brian Schettenheimer do? He decides
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: to get away from the run. You know what? Tyler
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: Guyton's been one of the best left tackles. Cooper Beebe's
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: been one of the best centers. Oh, we get Tyler
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Smith back, one of the best left guards in the
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: entire league, been an all-pro every single year.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: What do we do?
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: We stop running the ball. Don't ask me why. And
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Brian Schottenheimer is an older, more senile Kellen Moore. That
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: is all he is to me. And I already talked
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: to him about situational against the Ravens. Ryan and I
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: went back and forth on that.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: Why do you go for two?
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Why not kick the extra point? All the momentum that
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: you had kind of deflated. And you know what sucks
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: about this the same way that you were saying? This
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: division is so dog shit. This division is so bad.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: We are going to find a way to win this division.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: We're going to be 10-7 or we're going to be 11-6.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: I'm going to get my hopes up and then we're
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: going to make the divisional round. Somehow we're going to
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: beat the 5 seed because we're going to be in
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: a 4 seed. No, the NFC South. We're going to
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: be a 3 seed. We're going to be a 3
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: seed and end up facing... What, maybe the Rams, Niners,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: or Seattle? Find a way to win, then lose in
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: the division. I don't know. I'm done talking about the Cowboys.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: I'm done.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: I'm done.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Okay. That had my blood boiling. I'm not going to
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: lie to you. That had my blood boiling. I'm not
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: going to lie.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: I'm like an honorary Cowboys fan just because growing up
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: around it, grew up in Texas, all that stuff, I've
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: always watched the Cowboys, and I didn't go the route
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: of hating them kind of went the route of liking them.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: Cole Beasley, Sean Lee, Jason Witten, they were all my
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: guys growing up, right? And so going into this game, right,
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: I get to watch this team that I'm kind of
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: a fan of get to go up against the Buccaneers,
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: the shitty Pirates, right? Without Baker. So I'm like, hey,
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: fucking tee them up, right? These defensive ends for the
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: Cowboys have been, you know, they've been kind of impressive, right,
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: for these young bucks. Tee them up. Start going off
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: against this guy. What do they do? This UDFA rookie
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: puts belts to ass. And this has been the Cowboys.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: This has been whenever Overshawn's out, y'all's linebackers cannot tackle
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: a running quarterback. I mean, the Saints have the same problem.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: We've seen it with Kyler Murray. Yeah, we've seen it
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: with Kyler Murray. And this guy, a UDFA fucking, like,
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: rookie quarterback is doing the same thing. And it's so
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: annoying because he's not, like, going insane. Like, he's, like,
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: having a UDFA backup quarterback kind of game where he
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: just happened to not throw an interception because the corners
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: can't catch the fucking ball. Like, there's a reason why
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: they play defense, right? Right? There's a reason. But... Deron Bland,
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: you're going to get paid almost like a receiver because
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: you have talents like a receiver. You don't have the
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: quarterback talents as we've seen week in and week out.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: But you've shown us the receiver talent, right? That's what
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: we pay you for, right? Apparently not. Apparently not. Shit
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: hit him right in the face. A gimme pick six.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: One of those. And then that's, to be honest, that's
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: the play. That's the play. UDFA rookie quarterback. It's a
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: little bit of a close game. They cover the spread,
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: and you're like, what the fuck's going on? The Cowboys
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: are imploding. But guess what? They get bailed out by
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: this pick six. We all go to bed sleeping easy
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: because they win by, you know, three points. And it's like, oh,
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: we almost got hit by the trap game. But no,
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: what happens? Drops it. Drops it. And then Bucky Irving
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: proceeds to break off a 72-yard touchdown run. And it was,
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: let me tell you, it was nice. It was nice.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: Bucky was looking like rookie Bucky Irving in the backfield.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: He was reading those holes. That play in particular, I
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: was very impressed, right? Now, Bucky throughout the season hasn't
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: looked really great. Is he 100% back from his injury
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: from last year? This game, he looked like it. But
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: is that a product of the Cowboys? I think it's
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: a product. Yeah, so like, yeah, is it a product
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: of the Cowboys? Yeah. On that run in particular, that
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: is a product of Bucky, in my opinion. In my
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: personal opinion. He broke right, broke a tackle right. I've
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: seen somebody overlay the play with a Bijon run from
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: like two weeks ago. And it was like for like.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: And it was just, it was absolutely. And you want
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: to know what Bucky has that Bijon doesn't? A stiff arm.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: And a nasty ass one to get him into the
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: end zone. And, I mean, like you said, that was
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: the momentum shifter. Somehow, the worst linebacker in the NFL
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: got a pick with Alex Anzalone. Somehow caught a pick
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: off of Dak Prescott.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: And.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: I kind of figured CeeDee Lamb wasn't going to have
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: a really good game against this because the Bucs run
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: so much man coverage, and CeeDee Lamb eats in zone.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: He eats in zone compared to George Pickens, who eats
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: in man coverage, and you've seen it this game. Like,
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: he was getting targeted. He was covered, but he was
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: making the catches because he's George Pickens, right? And so
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: then there were some catches that he didn't make because
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: he's fucking blanketed. Like, am I right? CeeDee Lamb, you
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: take yourself out on a drive you guys go for
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: do you put yourself back in to fuck up the
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: two-point play that doesn't get converted right kind of your
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: fault you let that db get back there if you're
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: gonna run your flat route if you're gonna run a
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: quick out run it quickly run it quickly you're in
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: ryan florin always away and then um proceeds to not
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: go in for the game tying drive What are we doing, CD?
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's selfish or what's going on
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: with this injury.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: It was that quad injury, yeah.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: I've seen, but it's like, are you playing or are
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: you not playing? Like, what's going on? Why is Jonathan
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: Mingo getting targeted on a bomb, right? Like, you should.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. No, I understand that 100%, but I think
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: that was... I think that was an injury where it's like,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: you're playing three games in 12 days and you just got...
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: 21 targets like i'm not excusing cd lamb at all
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: like you should have not been back in the game
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: like let george pickens he's clearly eating more than enough
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: like he knows and then.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Especially against this like like this defense they were picking
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: on um they're they have like a rookie corner that
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: was trying to cover george pickens they were picking on
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: him they were picking on they were and i mean
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: that's the only thing that was working for deck george
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: how much did george pickens have he had 130 yards
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: in a touchdown. And it's like, yeah, it was working.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: And I called it out before the game because of
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: how much man coverage that they run and, and how
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: much that, you know, CD lamb compared to George Pickens.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: And I think this will happen every single week for
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: the Cowboys, by the way, fantasy, fantasy owners, by the way,
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: if you, for some reason have CD lamb and George Pickens,
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: and you need to pick who to start, look at
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: what coverage the defense runs most often. If it's zone,
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: throw CD in there. If it's man, throw Pickens in there.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: And this is a perfect example. Week, Last week to
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: this week is a perfect example of it. But other
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: than that, I mean, like you said, shoddy. What are
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: we doing? Figure it out. Dak Prescott. Shitty. Dak Prescott.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: Throw the ball on target. You started off. What was he?
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: He was like 5 for 17 to start the game.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: It was horrendous. It was something brutal. It was so bad.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: And like Alfonso was saying, dude, you were in MVP
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: talks before this game. I'm sorry. Your odds just went
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: out the window. Josh Allen has had really shitty games.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: Like this year, but at least it's against competent teams.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: Like this is a really shitty game against not a
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: good team. Like this team might get five wins this year.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: Maybe. Then that's best case scenario right there.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: Well, you know what's going to be so funny with
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys? I'm going to call it exactly right now.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: I'm going to call my shot in the dark.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: So.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: We're going to beat Green Bay Sunday night. We're going
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: to beat Philly. We're going to beat Arizona. We're going
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: to beat the Colts. So going against San Fran, we're
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: going to be, what's our record right now? We're two
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: and three. We're going to be six and three going
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: against San Fran. And, you know, that honestly, Philly, we're
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: going to talk about it right now with Philly. Philly,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: I'm not really concerned with them in all honesty. It
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: seems like they're kind of, Self-employed. We didn't get to
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: talk about it. Lane Johnson retired. They traded away Cam Jurgens.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Four new offensive linemen for them this week. It was just.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: And like, we talked about it as far as with
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: the whole with the Ravens. It's like, oh, should you
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: kick the ball deep or should you squib it? apparently
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if both your teams suck.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: So.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, okay, it.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: Was slightly different. It was slightly different. One team had
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: a timeout, one didn't. So in reality, they should have.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: They should have not let them return it.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they needed a switch.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: They needed a switch. They seen what the Cowboys did,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: and they're like, oh, fuck, we don't want to do that, dude.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: We do not want to do that. And then they're like, oh, shit,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: they didn't have a timeout.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, man, but like, You know, okay, one thing I'm
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: going to take away from this game, this Jaguars and
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Eagles game, all I got to say is, if you know,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: if you know, chop wood and carry water. Parker Washington season, man.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: Parker Washington, dude, I'm not going to lie. I know
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: we're going to get into fantasy maybe after this game. Dude,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: I think he's, I'm not even exaggerating. I think he's
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: top 15 rest of season. That's me being like, that's
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: like me being like, Like, conservative. You could easily argue him, like,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: top 12, maybe top 10 based on this offense. Top 8.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: Then you're getting into, like, wide receiver 1 on every
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: single team kind of talk. That's some high praise.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: He just dropped 30 points.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. 30 points. And it's crazy coming from a... You
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: know what he reminds me of? I say this on
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: every single receiver that I like that's, like, a little shorter.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: Steve Smith. He reminds me of Steve Smith, man.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: No, I actually buy this one.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: I say that about every single short receiver. Because I've
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: said it about Makai Lemon coming into the draft. I'm like,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, it's Steve Smith. Right, right? And then now
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: I'm saying it about Parker Washington. But he gives me
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: those vibes because he's a smaller wide receiver. But he's
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: not just a rack-em-up, short, quick route stuff. He's a...
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: throw the ball deep and let me make a play
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: kind of guy with that one handed snack. Both of
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: his touchdowns were amazing.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: They were insane.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, like Parker Washington. I mean, once again, Brecken,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you for giving me Tim for a third
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: round pick.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: Of course, brother. Of course. In between.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: So for the people listening, so Brecken, I think we're
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: talking on the phone or something. And like, we're just
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: talking like different trades or something like that. He's like,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: Oh man, I'll give you Parker Washington. He's been playing
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: all right. He's been playing all right so far. I
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: think that was the conversation. And I was like, well,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: what do you want from him? And he was like
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: a third-round pick. In my head, without knowing what Parker
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: Washington was going to be, I'm like, oh, that's kind
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: of a little steep. But you know what? I'm going
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: to do it. And....
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: In this fucker, he had his third-round pick and his dad's.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: His dad's third-round pick was the 11, and his was, what,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: the second?
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the second.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I get the third-round pick. I'm like, ah,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: it's basically a second. I'll accept it. No problem. And
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: then I go, like, it gets closer to draft season.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at what I have, and I'm like, yo,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: what the fuck is going on, dude? I feel like
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: I should get some reparation here. Am I right? Mm-hmm.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: You know, if you want that third-round pick now, I'll
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: give it to you now. After what I've got from
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: Parker Washington.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: We've all had our fleeces, brother. I got a first-round
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: pick for Brian Robinson Jr.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: Dude, no, your biggest fleece, I was looking on Roster Audit, J.J.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: McCarthy and a third-round pick for Drake Me.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: That.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: That was your best fleece right there.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: That was good. The timing of that is what made it.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: Right before guys with dynasties, all right? Guys, this is
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: how you handle dynasties. I wanted Drake May. It was
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: our startup draft was whenever they were rookies. I couldn't
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: get Drake May. I was like, I'll get J.J. McCarthy, right?
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: Another first-round quarterback, same draft class. He's got Justin Jefferson.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: Gets injured.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: What do I do? Drake May has a shit season. Hey,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: I love the prospect. I love this guy. I've called
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: him Josh Allen 2.0 since he was in North Carolina,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: and I trade him. Like a week before the draft,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, I'll give you JJ and a third
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: for Drake. Like he had a really shit season. What
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: does Drake May do? He goes out there and becomes
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: the second best quarterback in fantasy football history. Back-to-back games with,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: what is it, like 40-plus points? Yes. Absolutely insane.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: Drake May looks back.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: I changed his name to The Schedule. He's pretty much
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: not The Schedule.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: Ever since you've done that, Drake May has been.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: Balling, bro. He's been balling out.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: Ever since you've done that. Patriots offense is back, and
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: they don't even have A.J. Brown. Trev's going to be out,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: but A.J. Brown back in this offense.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: But this is how the offense has always operated. Or
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: at least last year, that's how this offense operated. is
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: they just spread the ball out to a bunch of
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: different people. And it's like, fuck, you can't really get
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: a one. You know what I'm saying? That's what makes
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: me think. Even whenever A.J. Brown comes back, I think
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: it will elevate this offense because it gives you that
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: big play capability. We know that they led the NFL
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: in explosive plays last year, but it was because it
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: was a bunch of random people. And then now I
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: feel like it will elevate it a little bit more
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: because you're getting a guy that will go up and
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: get the ball on these plays. So the explosive plays
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: will go up even more now.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: And they're going to roll coverage to AJ Brown too.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And so, and so in my opinion, it's like
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: for fantasy wise, I think AJ Brown can be a
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: wide receiver one. Maybe I feel like he's going to
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: be a more likely. He's going to be a solid
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: wide receiver too. Yeah.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I, I definitely, I definitely buy that right there.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, I, I mean, there's still going to be
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: those high– I feel like he's definitely going to have
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: a high floor, A.J. Brown. I think he's going to
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: be one of those guys when he gets back.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, get you like 12– almost like what Mike Evans
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: has been to start the year. Where like every single
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: week he's gotten you like 12 to 15 points. And
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: then this week he had an explosive game where he
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: caught a touchdown and he had 115, 120 yards. And
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: he scores 25, 26 for you. But then he'll go
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: back to 13 to 15, you know. And then, to
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: be honest, that's exactly what you want out of your
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: wide receiver, too. So if you could trade for him now, like,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: go for it, brother. Try and get a really good
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: wide receiver, too.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: I definitely buy that. But as far as– or I
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: don't think there's any other games, really. I mean, Patriots– Lions, no.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: All the other games were kind of like, Texans finally
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: got a win. It ended up resulting in Marvin Harrison
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: getting traded. In my opinion, I think it was literally
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: the Texans were like, if we don't find a way
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: to beat the Titans, we're not trading that second round pick. Like, yeah,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: our season's fucking over. We're not trading that second round
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: pick because it's a first, right?
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: And they beat the Titans and they're like, Okay, maybe
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: we still do have a chance, right?
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: Maybe you are back.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: You want to talk about a long shot. Last year,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: they were 1-3. No, they were 0-3.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: 0-3. They started off 0-3.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: And they were like one of two teams in the
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: last 35 years to make the playoffs starting off 0-3.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: Now they were 0-4, and this has never been done
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: where an 0-4 team ends up making the playoff to
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: end the season. So, yeah. We'll see. I mean, they were,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: I think they were my pick for like AFC championship
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: or something like that. Well, okay.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: Let me list this. They got Jags next in London.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: Jags are staying back-to-back weeks in London.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they are. That's their home field.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: But look, here are these next four. Giants, Chargers, Browns, Colts.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: And then that's when they have Ravens, Steelers, Commanders, Jags, Eagles, Packers, Titans.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: Their schedule is like 50-50. They could easily win.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: They could easily win these games. I could easily see
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: you saying, oh, the Texans, they could win all these games.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: The Chargers are the worst team in the NFL. Without
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: a doubt in my mind. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: The Chargers, we're going to talk about them. We're going
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: to talk about them. Yes. They look atrocious. Hey, Slater,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: one of the best left tackles in the NFL. You
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: know what the best ability is? Availability. Brother, you can't
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: stay healthy. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Hypotheticals, if man. It's
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: not working. It's not working. And I'm not kidding. I'm
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: not kidding. watching this team, like, okay, the first, you know, two,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: three weeks, you're like, I don't know what's going on.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on. Maybe it's, maybe, maybe
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: they're trying to draw this game.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: You know, this is a month and a half.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: If you can't figure it out, there's, there's the Buccaneers
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: that found a way to get a win. All right.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: The Chargers haven't gotten a win with Justin Herbert. Right.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: And it's like, Amarion Hampton.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: Yes. Amarion Hampton, Ladd McConkey, QJ, like one of the
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: best offensive coordinators in the NFL. It's like, dude, and
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: I'm seeing what really irritates me, bro, is I'm seeing
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: these people online being like, oh, Justin Herbert's wide receiver
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: room still isn't really good. Name me a wide receiver
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: room that has invest, like which organization has invested this
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: much money and this much capital into the wide receiver room.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: You have a first round pick, a second round pick,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: And then what was Trey Harris? Was he a second
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: or third round pick?
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: Second or third round pick, yeah.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: Amarion Hampton, early pick. First round pick. You go out
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: and you pick up Njoku, right? And it's like you
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: invest all these pieces around him. Now I get that, like, yes,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: just because this person was drafted in the first round
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean that they're a first round level talent. But, dude,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: you are giving him every single opportunity. I already went
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: on a rant, what was it, like two weeks ago
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: about Josh Allen, where it's like– The excuses are over.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: The excuses are 100% over. And he has looked worse
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: every single season. Right now, he's playing like a bottom 20,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: bottom 30 quarterback. Like, Jacoby Brissett looks better. Geno Smith
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: looks better. Like, these guys that are Journeyman Bridge-level quarterbacks
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: are playing better than you. And this shows why this
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: quarterback market... okay there's three quarter yes Jalen Hurts I
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: don't know dude Jalen Hurts.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: Okay I went too far okay I went too far.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: No I'm just kidding but Jalen Hurts does actually look
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: better which is insane but there's there's three quarterbacks in
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: the NFL that should be the highest paid quarterbacks in
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: the NFL and this is showing you why these guys
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be getting paid what they're getting paid this shouldn't
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: be next man up let me collect the highest paid
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: paycheck it should be It should be Mahomes, Allen, and Lamar.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: And then maybe, yeah, maybe Joe Burrow as the highest
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: paid quarterbacks in the NFL. All these other guys, I'm sorry, Baker, Herbert.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: Dak's like a borderline guy. But I don't think that
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: Dak should be getting paid like a Mahomes, like a
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen, like a Lamar Jackson. Because if we're, I
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: get that you're really high on Dak. You're a Cowboys fan.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: I'm high on Shuck. I'm a Saints fan. They're not
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: touching those three guys. They separate themselves. And then you
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: go back and look at history. It's like, yes, Tom Brady,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: Peyton Manning, Drew Brees were getting paid the fucking bag, right?
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: But after them, they weren't getting paid like that. There
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: was a drop-off. And this shows why. Like, Justin Herbert, yes, hypothetically,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: was he, oh, he's got the things to be a
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: top five guy. He hasn't done it. He hasn't proved himself.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: Why are we paying him like he's a top five guy?
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: It's multiple quarterbacks. Baker Mayfield is going to be due
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: for a contract. What's his name? Bryce Young is going
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: to be due for a contract. T-Law got paid. T-Law
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: has been playing really good since he got his contract.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: But like even him, I think he's a little bit overpaid.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of these quarterbacks, Jared Goff is,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: I think he plays extremely well. He's extremely overpaid. Brock Purdy,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: extremely overpaid. Now these guys I do think are extremely good.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're on the same level.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I buy that. I buy that.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: And it proves why. You need to be able to
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: spend money in other places. And the Chargers lost defensive
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: players in the offseason because they didn't have the capital.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: It's true. And I'm looking at their schedule. I'm not
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: even exaggerating when I say they could be 0-9. They
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: have the Chiefs in Kansas City. They have the Rams,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: the Texans, the Ravens.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: They are for sure 0-7. They're for sure 0-7.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to say I'll put my mortgage on it. Yeah,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: don't say that. But Texans and Ravens, I think they're
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: going to lose to both of those. Even the Jets,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: the sneaky Jets.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, it's either them or the Dolphins for
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: the worst team in the NFL. And the Dolphins have
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: more money spent in dead cap than they do on
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: their roster. Like, the Dolphins threw away this season.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: The Dolphins we knew. The Dolphins we knew.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: The Dolphins threw away this season before it even started. Like,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: the Chargers going into this season, people were talking about
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: them as contenders.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: They were talking about them as, I mean, I wasn't
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: saying it, but like Super Bowl contenders as far as, oh,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: they can make a run.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: I think I had them second in their division, which
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know what I was smoking.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: I had Broncos. I had Broncos, Chargers, and the Chiefs.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: Dude, I think I may have put Broncos last. I
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: think I had Raiders above the Broncos because I was hating.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I had Broncos. Yeah, man, this is brutal. But
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: all right, it's time to go to our infamous dynasty
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: check right here, Bracken, in which... We're both riding high
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: this week. Obviously, there's two guys that didn't get on
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: the pod. They didn't get on for a reason, and
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: we know why because they obviously lost in Dynasty. But
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: both of us feeling pretty good. I'm feeling amazing, which
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: I'll let you talk about your team, and then I'll
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: kind of go into my team in a little bit.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: Brother, let me tell you. Let me tell you something
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: about now, as we all know, The legend himself, Mike Ditka,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: passed away.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: What is my team name? I'm not going to say
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: it on here. But for the viewers, you can read.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: For the viewers, you can read. And in honor of
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: Mike Ditka, what did my team do? We went out
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: and performed. Preseason power ranked one. Going into this game,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: I was one and three. I called it out that
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: I was going to end up going one and five.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: I somehow found a way to beat. Better to be wrong. Now,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: you know, you look at the final score and you're like,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: holy wow, you put a whooping on this guy, right?
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: This is Damien. This is the guy that we typically
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: hate on this podcast.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: He's a punching bag this fantasy football season.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: He is the punching bag. And you see why. The
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: Cowboys fan has Jalen Hurts and his starting quarterback, who
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: he traded for, who he gave up a lot for.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and see. What did he trade for
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts? Ooh.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: He got Kyron.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not a horrible trade. He did get Kyron.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: He got a couple picks. Okay, maybe not that bad
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: of a trade. I thought he traded Jared Goff for this.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: That was for the Gibbs trade. Besides the fact, he
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: has Jalen Hurts. He has Gibbs. Now, whenever you hear
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: somebody has Gibbs on their fantasy roster, you think, God, bro,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: they got to be whooping it. You're telling me this player,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: this running back, has scored more fantasy points through the
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: first five weeks than any running back in the last
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: 26 years? Are you serious? Are you guys serious right now?
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: This guy's going absolutely nuclear, especially in our league where
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: it's six-point passing touchdowns. There's a little bit of boost
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: Dude, Gibbs is going absolutely crazy. He just scored me
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: 38 points. What happens? Jalen Warren goes out there and
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: takes care of business. Takes the trash out. He matches Gibbs. Yeah, just, yeah,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: you know, Jalen Warren's just going to match Gibbs, you know, whatever, whatever.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: Drake May, what did I just talk about? My pookie bear.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: My Drake. The schedule. Five touchdowns to five different people,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: including himself. Scampered around for 25 yards. Threw for 380.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: And this is against the Las Vegas Raiders, who had
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: one of the highest pressure rates in the NFL going
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: into this game. And the Raiders... They look pretty good.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: We were talking about it last week. Their defense isn't bad.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: Their defense is pretty solid. And we've seen Drake Mates
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: absolutely embarrass them. Now, you do got to remember this
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: is a Dynasty League. I have Jeremiah Love, all right?
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: Just give it a little bit. Just give it a
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: little bit, all right? And he was a little bit
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: banged up for this game. So I'll excuse it. I'll
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: excuse it. Kyron Williams, fantasy football darling, right? He's been
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: going absolute crazy. Eight targets here. He's already almost matched
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: his career targets on this season alone. Absolutely insane. Has
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: a really good game. yeah whatever it's okay because chris
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: alavi meh game he's been doing pretty good for me
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: this season had a meh a meh game i moved
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: him to my wide receiver spot over jamar chase because
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: he's been doing pretty damn good yeah almoner st brown
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: pretty average day now this is where the tom started
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: is this darius cooper.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: Yes, it is.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: This is Darius Cooper that proceeded to start. And it
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: wasn't a bad start. On Damien's lineup and put up 15.1
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: points on prayers. Hopes and dreams right here. And they
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: were answered. So God is on your side, Damien. Obviously
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: not enough because he gave me Malik Neighbors, baby. What
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: does Malik Neighbors do? Go out there and get 20 targets. Now,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: going into overtime, like before overtime, he wasn't doing that great. Post-overtime,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: guess who targets their wide receiver the most on the
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: first three target? Jameis Winston. Guess who's that first three target?
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: Malik Navers. Absolutely love this for the rest of the season.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: I don't care who his quarterback is. He's finally getting healthy.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: I think his shoulder's finally healed up. People were hating
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: on him because of the injury. I traded for him
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: while he was injured, and this is why you trade
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: for a player like this. He's a top 10, possibly
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: top 5 wide receiver the rest of the season.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: Romeo Dobbs, absolute dud. Now you would expect a lot
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: of people like to do this tactic where they start
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: the other team, like the other team has a quarterback
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: and you're like, ooh, I'm going to start their wide
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: receiver because if they do good, I have their wide receiver. One,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: doesn't fucking matter when you have Drake maybe. Romeo Dobbs, 2.6 points.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: What happens to Mark Chase? Another day. Another day, another dollar.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: 77 yards, a touchdown, 20 points. Tucker Craft, guy I
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: just traded for. Pretty good investment so far. And to
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: be honest, I think he's been underperforming. 11.6 points. Tight
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: end was my weakest position by far. I was starting
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts every single week. I benched him this week.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: What does he do? He has a touchdown. Fuck you,
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts. Anyways, Tyler Warren ran in a touchdown. He's
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: still an offensive freak for Damian. I get it. Monty
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: goes down. This guy, Damian, is extremely lucky whenever it
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: comes to backup running backs and stuff like this because
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: he has Emmanuel Wilson. He's had Emmanuel Wilson. This guy's
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: been a nobody all season and is on free agency
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: rosters for most teams. Somehow he gets the start here.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: Now my pookie bear, Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. Ja'Cory Kroski-Merritt.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: Goes absolutely crazy. Breaks off a big run that doesn't
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: get called back this week. A big run that did
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: not get called back. Oh my gosh, it's a miracle.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: What does he do?
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: Hangs up 15 points.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: Now Kalief Raymond. We're going to have a little bit
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: of a talking afterwards.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: I didn't even notice you started Kalief Raymond.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: I had to, dude. My team is injured. My team
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: is injured. Kalief Raymond, I can excuse it. We got
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: the dub anyways. Jaden Daniels, my QB2, just easily putting
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: up 32 points. Oh, you're telling me this is a
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: super flex league? And this guy's starting a wide receiver three? Yeah, buddy,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: you should have taken Deshaun Watson for that fourth-round pick
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: that I was asking for weeks ago. And then our
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: kickers basically match each other. Now, snipe of the week
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: for me, Tyler Shook. I love you, Pookie Bear. I
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: benched you for Jaden Daniels just because of the matchup.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: I didn't bench you in another league, and I should have.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: And I literally lost because of you. I still love you.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: It's okay. It's okay. The sale for my week? Kendra Miller,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: I was going to start you over Kalief Raymond. Didn't
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: last minute because of the Vikings. Should have done it.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I don't know why I doubted you.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: Dude, Tua had less fantasy points than Tyler Shuck.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh, he did. In Tua, we trust.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: For three snaps, Tua played. He had less points than...
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh yes.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: And there's injuries i've i've i've accepted that yes my
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: team my team is the definition of boom or bust
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: like my team will either go for 220 like they
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: did this week or they'll go for i mean we
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: could just look at last week right oh i did
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: 150 um 150 111 150 also i have been pretty
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: solid But not good enough. Not good enough. Not power
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: rankings number one good enough.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not for number one. Okay, yeah. Let's get to
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: this game in which it should have on paper be
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: match above the week. But what do you say about
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: things that are on paper, Brecken? What do you say
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: about things that are on paper?
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: The game is played on grass. Exactly.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: And that's what was said. You know, after last week,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: beating the champ in Brecken last week, my team, they
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: were riding a little high, and I was like, team,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: listen up. We got the number two power ranking from
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: the beginning of the season coming into town. We have
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: to know we're going to need to score points. Before
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: I get into the trade that I made before this,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: I had to call up another quarterback, Mariota. He was hurt.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: Still won last week. Caleb Williams wasn't going to be ready.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: Who's one guy that I get off the waiver wire, too?
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: I thought there was going to be more people that
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: bid for him, but they didn't. Tyler Huntley. If you
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: want to scroll down right there, I gave him a
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: pep talk. I was like, he has Zay Flowers, but
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: what does he do? Put up 28 points and not
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: target Zay Flowers. That was perfect for him. He followed
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: my plan perfectly. And also, I'm going to just go
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: ahead and say shout out to Spencer Schrader once again.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: One of the best pickups. Those two guys I picked
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: up the last two weeks and have been dominant for me.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: But just scroll a little bit up. Oh, you see
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: that Trey McBride for the people that have been watching.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: Wasn't Jawan Johnson? You were just talking about him. Penn
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: State legend, Oregon legend. Went to Grassboro High School in
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: New Jersey. Yes. Yes. I love me Jawan Johnson. He
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: has a very close place in my heart because he
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: beat Brecken last week. Yes, he does. But I had
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: to look very closely. It's like, okay, my team has
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: a real shot of winning. I need to go try
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: to get Trey McBride. So I traded Jawan Johnson and
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: a first round pick this year in the second-round pick
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: next year for Trey McBride. And what does he do?
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: He's like, Coach, I know it's a short week. I
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: barely got in. I'm learning the system. I'm like, just
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: do what you do. Drop me a cool 21 points.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: RJ Harvey, we're kind of going to ignore that. Kind
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: of have to pull him to the side a little bit.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: Arnold Fannin, he's also one of my darlings too, but
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: another reason why I needed Trey McBride, which Josh, Ryan, Damian,
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: anybody listen to this? Harnell Fannin's on the market. I
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: don't know if you guys want to know that. Let's
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: scroll up to these next to the darlings of my
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: team right here. Puka Nakua. Puka Nakua. This is exactly
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: why I traded for you. This is why I gave
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: up Christian Watson, who's actually been amazing this year. Jackson Dart.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: and a second-round pick. I did exactly that for this
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: reason right here. You know, you were projected 20 points.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: You know, that's some of the highest projections for a
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: wide receiver. He's like, Coach, I got you. I'll put
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: up another 17 just for you. Parker Washington, like I said,
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: chop wood and carry water. Now to go past that.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: We're the top four guys. We just had not too
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: good performances, but solid performances. Luther had 8.90. Game script
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: kind of got out of his hand. But as far
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: as going up right here with CJ Stroud, he had
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: 23 points. Jante kind of hasn't been the same since
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: week one, but just giving me a nice floor with 1070.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: Basho had 1160. And you know what we still scored?
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: We still scored 194 points. And that's with.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: Five guys in my lineups kind of giving dud performances games.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: And this is against the number one power rink team,
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: or number two rink power rink team, before the season started.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: He scored 170. That should be many teams across other leagues.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: But you know what? Scored 194 points. And that's exactly
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: why I went and got McBride. And also, I traded
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: Stripling for Jameis Winston in a second round pick. And
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying... You don't have to scroll down. But
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: you know some people who are rising up the board?
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: Dontavian Wicks. Been consistent. Has 11 points the last three weeks.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: And then Jeremy Bernard. Michael Pittman's going to be out.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: Now he's rising up the boards. Ryan Flournoy. Kind of
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: been rising up the board. Maybe CeeDee Lamb. Maybe he'll
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: miss some time. Makai Lemons. Actually been solid. Tajay Spears.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: Has the most targets of any running back in the
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: entire league right now. So... I'm just saying my team
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: is ascending upwards, and I still have the youngest team
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: in Dynasty. So we're competing for this year, and we
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: can still compete for many years to.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: Come. Josh lost this week to Eddie somehow. Eddie doesn't
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: have a great team, but you know what? He does
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: have Bajon Robinson.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: He did have a bunch of people on by. I
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: think he had Kate.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's got he's got a Chiefs themed team.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: This is what happens whenever you pick too many players
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: from your favorite team is you have probably the best team.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: in Dynasty and you proceed to only drop 150 because
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: you have four guys that all play for the same team.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: But I mean, whenever you're that good of a team,
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: you could lose one week, in my opinion.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. No, but it's time to get
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: to what we're going to talk about right here. The
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: whole keep, trade, cut, or buy, sell, hold with fantasy
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: football players. So this is fantasy football edition right here.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: And we're going to kind of go back and forth,
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: going to kind of give our reasoning on who we're
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: going to keep, trade, cut, or buy, sell, hold, however
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: you want to do it. But the first thing that
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: I wanted to present towards you, which I told you
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: it before the pod, and I want to hear it
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: on air because we didn't talk about it. So between
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: these three, you got to keep, trade, and cut. Javante Williams,
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: Chase Brown, and where's the other one? Where's the other one?
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: Who's the other one? It was Chase Brown, Javante Williams,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: and Kyron Williams, I believe. Out of those three.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: Wait.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: Who?
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: It was Chase Brown, Williams. Javante. giovante and kyron williams
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: all right yeah i dude chase brown just hasn't been
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: efficient which is absolutely insane because going into the season
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: he was so efficient last year and this offense looks
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: good like the team looks good team looks good so
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: i chase brown he's now if we're doing keep trade
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: cut he's he's the cut he's the cut right Like,
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: out of those guys, I'm starting the other two over
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: him right now. Now, if we're doing buy, sell, hold,
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: if he's on my team... If he's on my team.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: Let's do buy, sell, hold. Let's do buy, sell, hold.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: Buy, sell, hold. I'm buying. I'm buying Chase Brown. Because
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: I still believe in the potential, right? But yesterday's price
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: is not today's price, to be honest. I'm buying Chase
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: Brown still. but yesterday's price is not today's price. If
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: you could flip somebody like... Oh, dude, I'm trying to
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: think of a mid-tier. Like a Scataboo, right? Like a Scataboo. Now,
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: I know that he might have an injury or something
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: going on. Scataboo's been solid. He's an alright guy. If
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: you could flip somebody like Scat for somebody like Chase Brown,
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: I'm doing it.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: Just worth the potential right there. That's just.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: Actually, it wasn't Kyron. It was Jalen Warren. It was
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: Jalen Warren. That's what it was.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: Okay. So Jalen Warren, I'm buying. I'm all in on.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: Especially right now. I get that he had a boom week.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: But to be honest, I think even whenever Dowdle comes back,
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: it's his backfield. Like he's so efficient. He's averaging like
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: eight yards a touch or something like that. Like, it's
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: absolutely insane. And it's like, we've seen Jalen Warren be
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: super efficient. He's just never been the number one back.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: And I said this last week with these teams where
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: I'm like, if they consolidate the backfield, like, we see
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: what this team becomes. Like, we see what this guy
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 2: becomes at fantasy. And for me, Jalen Warren, I'm buying.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: I'm all in on. Now, do I own Jalen Warren already? Yes.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: Am I happy to see this happen? Yes. But. I'm
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: fully buying Jalen Warren. This offense is one of the
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: faster-paced offenses. This defense is meh, right, which is good.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: And then, you know, Aaron Rodgers is going to have
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: the running back that he trusts to block and catch
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: passes for him on third down. And that's exactly what
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: Jalen Warren is. Those are the money downs, right? Like
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: we just seen him take a screen pass, break two tackles,
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: take it 80 yards to the house. He doesn't have
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: the breakaway speed because, I mean, DK fetched his ass.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: But– I'm buying Jalen Warren. I'm fully in. Where are
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: you on him? Are you buy, sell, or hold?
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: Just off of what Jalen Warren did, I still think
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: he's a top 15 running back rest of season. But
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: with Javante, Chase Brown, and Jalen Warren, I feel like
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: if you sell him, this could be the time where
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: you trade up to that next tier gap.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: But who would you trade for?
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: If you're Jalen Warren... If Jalen Warren, just based on
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: how he's been playing, see if you could try to
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: crack into the top seven, maybe a Jonathan Taylor, maybe
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: a Derrick Henry.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: There's no way.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: You don't think there's somebody dominant.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: Maybe Derrick, not Jonathan. Not Jonathan Taylor. Maybe Derrick.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: You could say after a bad week, Jonathan Taylor. After
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: a bad week, Jonathan Taylor didn't do too good. Maybe
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: a C-Mac hasn't been performing as well as of late.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: I think in reality, you could trade up to an
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: Ashton Gentry, Kyron Williams, maybe James Cook. I feel like
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: you could trade up to that. But then once you
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: start getting into Derek Henry, CMC, JT, I don't think
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: that you could reach that far. I guess if you
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: can sell Jalen Warren for a.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. If you could sell him up,
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't sell down. I'd sell up.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. But if it's like Jalen Warren for Swift,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: who I'm high on, or like Basial Keaton, who I'm
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: high on, or like Brees Hall, somebody like that, I'm
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: not doing it.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. Okay, I know I'm supposed to,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: or you're supposed to list something next, but I want
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: to ask these three right here because I feel like
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: these are so nasty. Buy, sell, hold. Saquon Barkley. Jeremiah Love,
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: and Brees Hall.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: All the injured running backs. Okay. I am... Oh, man.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: I wanted to give you a nasty one right here.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: They're technically... To be.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: Honest, I'm selling Saquon. I'm selling Saquon. The whole line's
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: only gotten worse. Like, my only thing is, like, Okay,
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: who would I even be able to sell Saquon for?
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: Can I sell him for a Scataboo, a Judkins, an
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: Ollie Gordon?
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: I'd have Bucky over Saquon.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have Bucky over Saquon too, like easily.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: But like I'm saying like I would rather have Ramondre Stevenson.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: I'd rather have....
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's not crazy with Trev being out.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And then even whenever he's back, like, Romandre's
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: going to give you, like, 12 to 15 points, and
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: then he might get a touchdown. Cool, you have 19. But, like,
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: with Saquon Barkley, is he uber-talented? Yes. But it's like,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: we haven't seen that level of talent in a year
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: and a half now, right? Yeah. This offense looks anemic.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: This O-line, he has four new offensive linemen starting for him.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: And it looks... It looks like Philly is doing a reset.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: You don't rebuild in Philly. You do a reset. And
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: it looks like they're about to do a reset right now.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: And they already invested a lot in their wide receiver core.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: I just don't see a path for Saquon in the future.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: I'm selling him. If you can downgrade from Saquon to
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: a Judkins, Romandre Stevenson, Even Ollie Gordon, who's on a
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: shit offense, he's super efficient at least. And these guys
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: are like floor plays, in my opinion. If you could
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: trade him away for a floor play guy, I'm doing it. Now,
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: the other guy that you said, Brees Hall, I'm buying him.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: I'm all in on him.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm buying.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's, especially right now while he's injured, I think
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: he's out, what, two more weeks?
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just about, yeah.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: And whenever, if you have the luxury to buy him,
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: whenever he comes back, I mean, he's a receiving threat.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: This Jets offense actually does look like it has a
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: little bit of upside with it, and it looks like
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: he might be able to get into the end zone now.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: I do think Braylon Allen is still going to vulture
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: away some touchdowns, but that's just what you've got to take. Now,
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: would I trade Brees Hall for a Basial Tootin or
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: a Romandre Swift? I think I would rather have those
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: other two guys, especially with Menungai going down. I think
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: Swift's stock is super high. um and then who is
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: the other guy that you asked me.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: About jeremiah love i mean you're gonna have to i
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: will hold him i think this fits perfect yeah you
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: have to.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: You have to hold him you have to hold him
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: just because in reality he's he's you're not gonna get
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: the value for him that you should in reality because
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: it's like what would you even be able to trade
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: him for like i don't know like tony pollard etn
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: and jay like Blake Corum maybe JK Dobbins but it's
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: like I would rather have like that's that's whenever you're
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: taking into consideration the floor play way too much right
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: yeah and I would I would rather just have the
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: talent of love now has he produced no but you know,
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: and is he a little bit banged up right now? Yes.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: But like in reality, I think he'll come back. He'll
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: in the season off pretty good. He's too high of
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: a caliber talent and too high of a draft pick
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: to not see more usage and to break off some
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: of these runs. Like we've seen, we've seen what he
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: could do. And he's even shown it in the NFL
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: level where he's looked absolutely amazing. Yeah.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. I was wondering about that one, but.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: I'll let you go ahead and cook up yours. I'm
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: trying to look at different ones.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: I'm going to hit you with some receivers, all right?
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, with some receivers. Okay.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: Let's go with... Do you want some nasty ones or
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: just like some meh ones?
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: Give me some nasty ones.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: All right, all right, all right. It's going to go
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: Emeka Ibuka.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: Who?
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: Ladd McConkie.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, and who's this last guy going to be?
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: Those are so nasty right there.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: Jalen Waddle.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: I had a feeling you were going to say that
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: one right there.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: Those guys now, you can buy all of them if
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: you want, right?
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: Nah, I'll do one of each. I'll do one of
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: each because I'll just play the name of the game
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: right here. For sure, I'm going to say cut Ladd
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: McConkie right here. I think this is a buy by
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: far right here in all honesty. Like, this Chargers offense
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: is so, so bad. They can't get anything established. They
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: can't get anything established here. And not to mention, he's the.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: Most injury prone. If you trade Ladd, so if you're
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: trading away Ladd, right? Like you're trying to get rid
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: of him. Who are you pawning him off for? Let's
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: go one for one.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: Wasn't it keep trade cut? Or did I have it?
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: Or was it buy, sell, hold?
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: Buy, sell, hold. But with Ladd, I'm just curious with Ladd,
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: who would you, who would you like, be trying to
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: trade for, like either trade up or trade down from?
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing you could really, I mean, you can't, if,
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: if I was somebody say, for example, with like even
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: a Devon Bailey or Jordan Addison, I really wouldn't want lad, but.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: Like, that's okay. That's a little crazy. That's a little crazy.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, who's been more consistent this year, Devon Bailey or,
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: Or Ladd-McConkie. At least Tavon Bailey has.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: I was even going like... I was thinking like Rome,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: DK Metcalf, Scary Terry, Denzel Boston. Like those guys.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: I think people would rather have Denzel Boston than Ladd.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: Like by far.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: If you could trade... trade down from lad denzel boston
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: which sounds insane like denzel boston's on the browns with
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: not a great quarterback and he's.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 3: Out still producing more than the last separation rate is
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 3: absolutely insane denzel boston i mean i loved him coming
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 3: out of the draft and like his separation rate is
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 3: absolutely insane.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 2: But i mean what about what about what about like
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: jordan tyson.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's what I was thinking. I was looking at
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: Jordan Tyson. You better hope. If you have the luxury,
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: knowing most people who drafted Ladd in like the third,
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: fourth round, you probably don't have that luxury. I would
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: try my best to get Jordan Tyson, but most smart people,
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: they already know they wouldn't trade him. But I mean,
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: I would try my hardest to try to get Jordan Tyson.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, even Stephon Diggs has been more consistent. Rome.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: At least, like, it's nasty. I mean, just the Chargers
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: offense in general. I'm trying to get away from the
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: Chargers offense in general.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to get rid of Hampton right now, dude.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: I'm trying.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: Dude, I think, like. Honestly, at this point with the
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: Chargers offense, you can't do nothing, bro. Like, I don't
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: think anybody wants a Chargers offensive player right here. Like,
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: I saw something with Field Yates saying it's okay to
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: drop Justin Herbert. If you would have told me that, like,
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: before the season, the preseason, I would have said you
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: would have been a madman. But, like, now it's not
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: even that crazy.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: Hey, Justin Herbert, it's okay. We have Bryce Young now.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: We got Bryce Young.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: It's okay.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: If I had to do a buy and a hold,
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: I would buy Jalen Waddell. I would buy Jalen Waddell.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: I feel like this would be his cheapest right now.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: I would buy because I have faith in Sean Payton
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: more than the quarterback to manufacture touches to Jalen Waddell
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: and get him going. That's my reason right here compared
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: to these other three. And now I know the Sean
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: Payton experience first time back or first game back as
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: a play caller this season didn't go as well. But
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: I expect there to be some strides within this offense.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: I expect there to be. I mean, Bo Nix can't
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: play any worse than he's played. I mean, the only
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: way he could go is up. like at least in
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: the fourth quarters they look like they have a comparable
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: offense compared to the Chargers offense where there's been no
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: signs at all like you see glimpses of the Broncos
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: offense where it's like okay this is what we saw
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: last year I can see the vision you can see
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: this and with Emeka Igbuka at this point you're not
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: trying to trade for him you're not trying to you're
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: not trying to sell him You just have to hold.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: You just have to hold with the Mecca Ibuka because
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: you hope your reason if you have a Mecca Ibuka, okay,
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: Baker's going to be back. This defense, it's stingy enough
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: to keep us in games. He's going to eventually get
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: the ball. Obviously, he got inflated with the touchdown this
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: week against the Cowboys. But you just have to hope.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, in all honesty, a Mecca Ibuka after Mike
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: Evans– Or after he got hurt last year, he never
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: was really the same as far as fantasy football production. But,
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, you have to hold him. At least with Ladd,
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: you know he's not going to be good. With Jalen Waddle,
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: you see glimpses. But Emek Igbuka, you're just stuck with
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: him in all honesty.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: I'm not on the same boat as you whenever it
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: comes to Igbuka. I am holding on Waddle. and I'm
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: buying Igbuka because of the upside. If I'm a team
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: that's 4-1, 5-0, maybe if I'm 3-2 and I know
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 2: that my team's really good, I'd rather take the upside
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: play with Igbuka, right, where we've seen him last year
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: where he has 30-plus point games. And maybe whenever Baker
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: comes back, he's playing for that contract right now. He's
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: going to be slinging it, and I mean, You're telling
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: me Chris Godwin's going to be the guy? No, I'm sorry.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: It's going to be Ibuka. And compared to Waddle, with Waddle,
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: there's other mouths to feed. And with the Broncos offense
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: in general, with Sean Payton, there's other mouths to feed. Now,
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: can Waddle get in the role of Michael Thomas? Maybe. Maybe.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: I don't see it in reality. I just don't. I
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: just don't. Bo Nix is just not a high-level quarterback.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: And at least with Baker, it's like he's going to
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 2: give his guy a shot. Bo Nix and Jalen Hurts
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: are the same quarterback. They don't throw over the middle.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: And that's what Waddle's route tree is. It's slants. It's drags.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: And he takes them to the house, right? And we've
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: seen it, like, what was it, like two, three weeks ago?
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: Whenever Waddle had, like, 120 yards. And he had 60
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: yards running. From one dig route over the middle that
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: Bo Nix threw, he throws maybe one or two passes
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: over the middle a game. And, yes, I think the
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: coaching is better, right? But quarterback tendencies, I'm leaning Igbuka here.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, all three, you definitely did give nasty ones
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: right there. Let's go in a different route right here
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: where this is going to be A buy-sell hold with
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: Matthew Golden, Mike Evans, and Devonta Smith.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: I'm selling Smitty. I'm selling Smitty. He's on my team
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 2: right now. Get him on.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: Eagle stock is gone? All of Eagle stock is gone?
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 2: All Eagle stock is gone. Smitty is extremely talented. He
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 2: still gets open. He still catches these contested passes. Smitty
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: is not the problem. I am not worried about Smitty.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 2: Like how with Ladd and McConkie, it's like, fuck, man.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 2: Ladd doesn't look good. This whole team doesn't look good.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: Smitty looks good. Smitty hasn't changed. He looks like a
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: wide receiver one in the NFL. Sadly, his quarterback is
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts, and Jalen Hurts looks horrible. And this offense
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: looks horrible, right? And who's the other person? Matthew Golden
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: and Mike Evans. Mike Evans, who would I rather have
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: between them two?
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: I know these are good ones.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: With Matthew Golden, you get the targets, right? He's been
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: getting a lot of targets through these weeks.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: And the big play.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's showing why he's a first-round pick. He
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: had the second or third highest separation rate in the
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: NFL last year, and it was pissing me off because
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 2: all of his targets were these contested-ass targets, and he's
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: still getting them this year, and he's still coming down
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: with them. They're just at such a higher rate, and
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: this team can't run the ball. Josh Jacobs is not like, Like,
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 2: he's not coming back, right? My only thing is, I'm
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: going to take Mike Evans here, and I know that
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: there's a lingering two broken ribs that he's playing through.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: My thing is with Mike Evans is he's on a
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: better offense. He's on potentially the best offense in the NFL.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: He's the wide receiver one, and Stribling might be coming back,
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: but in all reality, he's getting every target. Like, he's
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 2: the pass catcher. He is the pass catcher for this team.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: Matthew Golden, I like him. If you were able to
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: get him somehow, I wouldn't trade for him strictly because
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: he's going to be so expensive right now. Mike Evans
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: is going to be dramatically cheaper, and I would rather
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: take him. If you have Rasheed Rice, I don't know
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: if you could trade up from Rasheed Rice to Mike Evans.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: Do you think you would trade down for a Mike
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: Evans and get another asset?
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: Who would a trade-down candidate be? Would it be like.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: Christian Watson? Nico Collins after Marv's coming back?
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: Or Marv's going into Houston? If I could trade down
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: from Tet, I really like Tet. And I think he's
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: super talented and stuff. I think he's just like Drake London.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: But in reality, I also really like Jalen Coker. And
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 2: if I could trade somebody like Tetero McMillan... Like, if
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: I'm struggling, I have Tedaro McMillan, and I need a
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: running back, I'm getting Mike Evans and a running back
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: like Basial Tootin or something like that. If you could
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: do that. If you could group together Tedaro McMillan and
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 2: some bum running back that you're kind of meh on, right,
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: and get a Tootin and a Mike Evans, I'm doing
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: that all day.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would definitely do that too. Or you know what?
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: Let's do something interesting. here I know there's something we
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: didn't discuss top five wide receivers rest of season.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: Rest of season oh man I really want to put
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 2: Olave up there but I don't think I will just
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 2: because I hate the Saints um right now um give
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 2: me give me JSN I'm I'm gonna give you the
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 2: pencil mark guys JSN Puka Jamar um To be honest.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: Those last two spots are where.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 2: I feel like Amon Raw is basically a penciled in.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 2: He's been top three guy for, what, four years now? Yeah.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 2: And he hasn't slowed down in reality. What is he
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: right now? He is... He's wide receiver four right now. So,
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 2: he's pretty good. So, I'm just... JSN, Amon Raw, Jamar, Puka.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 2: This is the rest of the season. Now, this is
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 2: where you get into the gray area between, in my opinion,
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 2: it's between like CeeDee, Chris Olave, Zay Flowers, Nico, Drake London, right?
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: Does Jettos kind of creep into that if the offense
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: gets playing a little better? I think he could creep
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: into it.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. Really? I don't think that they could.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 2: I don't think Kyler will elevate. Dude, I don't know
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: because he's so talented. He's so talented. We've seen him.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: He just mossed three players in the back of the
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 2: end zone. and it feels wrong to leave him out.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: But for fantasy football, like real life, I'm putting him
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 2: up there. But for fantasy football, in reality, I don't
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: think that they throw the ball enough, and I think
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: that their defense is too good. I think their defense
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 2: will win them too many games. Now, if you take
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 2: into mind that same concept, I almost feel the same
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: way about Nico Collins. So that kind of takes Nico
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 2: Collins out of the factor for me. I almost feel
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: the same way about Zay Flowers, but he's been so explosive.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 2: He's been so explosive. The game said he's been healthy.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: But I'm going to play it cautious. I'm going to
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 2: take him out. So in reality, it's between CeeDee Lamb,
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 2: Chris Olave, and Drake London for that five spot. Olave
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: does get so many targets because of how often we
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: throw the ball. CeeDee Lamb I'm taking out because of
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: George Pickens. I'm sorry. I think he's super talented. I
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 2: think he's going to be on potentially the best offense
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: in the NFL. But I think George Pickens is going
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: to demand too many targets that CeeDee's just going to
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 2: miss out on that top five in my personal opinion.
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 2: So it's between Olave and London.
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: I know you're not going to go Dirty Birds player.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: I know you're not going to go a Dirty Birds player.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 2: Dude, I'm picking Chris Olave at five.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: I knew it.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 2: Just because I hate the Falcons. But, dude, I could
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: totally see Drake lending me in the top. It's insane.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 2: But I could also see Malik Nabors. I could see
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 2: Malik Nabors being five. There's so many. Like, in reality,
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 2: I don't think Christian Watson I'm selling now, in my opinion.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 2: His price is so high. Yeah, he's wide receiver. He's
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 2: wide receiver three right now. And I get that he's
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 2: getting a lot of targets. But, like.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: The deep catches, the deep bombs.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, it's too hard to do this consistently. And
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 2: on top of that, we've seen this from Christian Watson.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 2: And then he turns around and gets injured or production
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 2: falls off a cliff or something like that. Or something happens.
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 2: Jordan Love gets injured. Something happens. And so if I'm
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 2: able to, I'm trading Christian Watson for Malik Neighbors Plus,
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 2: Drake London Plus. Because you actually might be able to
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 2: do that right now. Maybe even Justin Jefferson. I might
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 2: even trade him for Justin Jefferson straight up.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: You know who's one person that's been– I mean, I
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: know you talked about the Jets offense being good, but
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: I feel like Garrett Wilson's kind of been like flying
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: under the radar as far as like– Dude.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson's been– he's so consistent. He's so consistently nice.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: He's just been flying under the radar as like a
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: shoe-in start, wide receiver one. Like probably like back in
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: wide receiver one, probably like wide receiver 11 or 12. Yeah.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 2: He's wide receiver seven on the season.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: He's wide receiver seven.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 2: That's insane.
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, 13 points, 16 points, 26 points, 5 points,
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: 23 points. Yeah.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 2: Like I said, so consistent, so consistent.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 2: The thing with Olave is just like the injury, dude.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 2: I seriously, I said it last week, I'm seriously worried
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 2: with how often we're getting hit. that either him or
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 2: Shuck is going to end up missing time. And if
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 2: either of them miss time.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: And that would kill. Yeah, that would kill one of
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: the others.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 2: Because the drop-off is insane.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: Man, that would.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and like.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I still have Seedy. I mean, I'd
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: argue Seedy all the way in Jamar range just because
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: due to explosiveness on any given day. And I mean,
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: this was his first bad game. And even at that,
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: it's because he got hurt and just, I don't know,
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: funneled out of the offense. I don't know how this
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: exactly happened. But I think George Pickens and CU, they're
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: both top 15 rest of season.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: Just with how bad this defense is. I don't know. Jason, Puka, Olave, Jamar, Aminra, Seedy.
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: That's five right there. Drake London, Zay. Do you... I
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: feel like Nico might go down just because of Marv,
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: solely because of Marv.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was my thing. It's like we don't know
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 2: what this offense looks like with Marv in it.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: Because, like, both guys that shouldn't just play the X receiver,
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: now one of these guys are going to be shooting
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: to play the X receiver. I think just hurts one
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: of them so badly. I mean, I get CJ Stroud
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: play with Marv, but, like, I don't know. I mean,
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: we'll see, but. But, man, it's already 1 o'clock. Let's
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: just go to our so-called MVPs. I didn't even realize
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: how fast the time went by. But, yeah, so-called MVP.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: One guy that stood out throughout the week.
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 2: Who is my... Should I pick Yaya Diaby just to
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 2: piss you off?
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: No. Shout out Yaya Diaby, bro. You know what? Man,
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: I have to... I have like three separate candidates here. Obviously,
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: I have Puka here. I have Chop Wood, Kerry Water,
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: the legend himself, Parker Washington. But, you know, I'm gonna
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: go with my man the pro bowler himself tyler snoop
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: huntley for helping me once again winning dynasty winning dynasty
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: 201 yards two touchdowns or he had three total touchdowns
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: he had a russian touchdown and upset the falcons sunday
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: night football So shout out to Tyler Stoop Huntley. He's
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: my so-called MVP.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 2: Give my so-called MVP to Jameis Winston for finding a
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 2: way to not lose the game.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: He had the cleanest game, the cleanest, most reckless game
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: Brecken, I'm not even joking. I'm not even joking to you.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: I saw his stat line at the end. I'm like, wait,
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: he didn't throw a pick. I was genuinely shocked he didn't.
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 2: Throw a pick. But no.
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: Brecken, any last words before we get out of here?
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 2: No, man. I mean, God bless. I hope all y'all
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 2: have a great day. Hoot at till I die. I
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 2: don't know why I support this team. It's just pain
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 2: and suffering year over year. I hate it so much.
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 2: It's honestly aggravating. But anyways, who dat?
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: You know, I think the Cowboys and Saints are a
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: lot more alike than we think. I think they are.
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 1: I came to a realization on this pod. We both
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: went on our own rants, but all right, we're going
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 1: to go to get out of here. We'll see you
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: guys next week for week six. Hopefully both of our
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 1: teams win. We'll see you guys soon. Take care.