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- 0:00Tonight, we're going to start with, here he comes. Raise your hand if you didn't get one of those.
- 0:06I know we're pretty short. Plenty extra. Yeah.
- 0:14I would say the main reason is that we need to be humbled first to understand just how bad our condition is before you ever will be open to talking about election.
- 0:28That's like my, I learned it that way.
- 0:31And I think a lot of times when people will try to share about election with me, it would be like, come on, I'm not that bad.
- 0:39Like, come on. Like, I seem to think that sin wasn't as bad as it actually was.
- 0:44And so a few quotes for us.
- 0:48And these men likewise believed in what we're talking about.
- 0:52But Augustine in the fourth century, the whole humility of man consists in the knowledge of himself.
- 0:59Yep. So the more you actually learn about you, the more humble you will become through God's eyes. Right.
- 1:07And Calvin said, man is never sufficiently touched and affected by an awareness of his lowly state until he has compared himself with God's majesty.
- 1:19It is evident that man never attains a true self-knowledge until he has previously contemplated the face of God and come down after such contemplation to look into himself.
- 1:31So we all think much of ourselves. Right.
- 1:34But when compared to God, we tend to shrink and be very, very small.
- 1:38That's what Calvin's saying.
- 1:41We need to humble ourselves.
- 1:43If you want to look on your sheet, your handout here.
- 1:48Each week I'll begin with an example, a quotation.
- 1:54This was Spurgeon.
- 1:55And so and so one of the things that I guess experientially confirmed this truth for me.
- 2:05So I will tell you from the beginning, but your convictions have to come from Scripture first and then your experience after that,
- 2:12because your experience doesn't trump what's what's true and what lasts forever.
- 2:17But what happened to me was I read these things in the scriptures and then I began to kind of think about how I saw them in my life.
- 2:24And one of those realities is I'm aware of what God's pursuit of me before I was a Christian.
- 2:31I could see God tracking me.
- 2:34I could see him following me and pursuing me.
- 2:36Yeah, even though I was pursuing and doing my own thing, he was he was on my track.
- 2:41He was going to and he was going to catch me.
- 2:43He was going to run me to ground when he was ready to.
- 2:47And that's something I'm like thankful for because he didn't have to do that.
- 2:52And that's what Spurgeon said.
- 2:53So something I want you to think about is trace back the steps of your life and look at all the ways that God has shown you grace
- 3:02and all the ways that he has put people in your life.
- 3:05He's put Bibles in your life.
- 3:08He's put a church in your life.
- 3:10Maybe parents that have taught you about Christ.
- 3:13This is what Spurgeon did.
- 3:15So let's read this together.
- 3:16He said one one weeknight when I was sitting in the house of God, I was not thinking about the preacher's sermon for I didn't believe it.
- 3:25That's a nice start, right?
- 3:28The thought struck me.
- 3:30How did I come to be a Christian?
- 3:34I sought the Lord.
- 3:36But how did you come to seek the Lord?
- 3:39The truth flashed across my mind in a moment.
- 3:41I should not have sought him unless there had been some previous influence in my mind to make me seek him.
- 3:49I prayed, thought I.
- 3:51But then I asked myself, how came I to pray?
- 3:55I was induced to pray by reading the scriptures.
- 3:58How came I to read the scriptures?
- 4:00How did I read them?
- 4:02But led me to do so.
- 4:06Then in a moment I saw God was at the bottom of it all.
- 4:11That he was the author of my faith.
- 4:14And so the whole doctrine of grace opened up to me.
- 4:16And from that doctrine I have not departed to this day.
- 4:20I desire to make this my constant confession that I ascribe my change wholly to God.
- 4:26So I hope that that's encouraging to you to begin to think about, well, how did this happen?
- 4:32You keep looking back and you see that God was underneath every little bit of what was going on in your life at the time.
- 4:39So, let me see here.
- 4:47When we talk about these things, we're looking at them, most of us, from a post-Christian perspective.
- 4:53Most of us are believers in here.
- 4:55But we have to look back and see what our condition was before we were in Christ.
- 5:00And for a lot of us, we might have become a believer at a very early age.
- 5:02So that's awesome.
- 5:05Don't go any further.
- 5:07Right?
- 5:07Some of us will testify.
- 5:08Like, that's awesome.
- 5:10But if we look back, we don't really realize how bad our condition is until we see it in hindsight.
- 5:17And let me give you an example.
- 5:20So I had that lung transplant.
- 5:23I knew I was pretty sick.
- 5:24I knew I was very sick, actually.
- 5:27But I didn't realize how close to death I actually was, though.
- 5:30And after the transplant, the surgeon said to me,
- 5:34well, no, actually, he didn't say it to me.
- 5:36He said it to my family.
- 5:37He's like, those are the worst set of lungs I've ever seen.
- 5:42And I don't know how he was alive on those.
- 5:45I had no idea.
- 5:46Like, how he was still breathing on those.
- 5:47And so, you know, so thankful the Lord spared me.
- 5:54But what I have the impression of, if you're like me, you tend to think sin is bad.
- 5:59Sin is not desirable.
- 6:01Sin is, you know, to be walked away from.
- 6:04But it is really, really bad.
- 6:07Like, it is, like, so bad beyond our minds.
- 6:11And I think most of my early Christian life, I thought, yeah, sin's bad.
- 6:15I'm a sinner.
- 6:16Yep.
- 6:16And I never really knew how much the Scripture actually had to say about it.
- 6:22Until the doctrines of grace or Calvinism or Augustinism, whatever you want to call it, whatever label you want to put on it.
- 6:31My personal favorite is what John Newton called it, the doctrine or the gospel of amazing grace.
- 6:37That's what we're just going to call this.
- 6:38It's pretty easy to remember, right?
- 6:41It's the doctrines of amazing grace.
- 6:43And so I look back on my simple condition now and I see just how bad it actually was.
- 6:50And so if you don't realize how low you are, you're never going to be really willing to respond to anything from God.
- 6:57Like, until you really realize how bad it is.
- 7:00So, but one of the go-to passages for sin in the Bible, which we have been through on Sundays, is Romans chapter 1.
- 7:10And this idea that God gave us over to our sin.
- 7:17So let's just read this quickly.
- 7:18For although they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks to Him.
- 7:23But they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened.
- 7:29All right.
- 7:29Now, as we're going along tonight, think about, like, the anatomy.
- 7:35Have any of you kids had anatomy in your classes yet?
- 7:38A few of you have.
- 7:39Okay.
- 7:39Well, the human body, right?
- 7:41So think about, like, a spiritual anatomy.
- 7:44The mind, the heart, things like that.
- 7:48But you see right here, it kind of says this idea that our foolish hearts were darkened.
- 7:53Claiming to be wise, there's the mind idea.
- 7:56Right before that, futile in our thinking.
- 7:58We became fools.
- 7:59We exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.
- 8:05Therefore, God gave them up in the lust of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves,
- 8:14because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the creator who was blessed forever.
- 8:21Now, that is like the essence of what sin is.
- 8:24It's taking your love and your worship, the failure to fulfill the great commandment to love God and giving it to idols, giving it to the things of creation rather than the creator.
- 8:36And we all have done it.
- 8:39I could give you a list of mile long, the stuff that I have worshipped and put my value in that have let me down and destroyed me.
- 8:46So that's a great example.
- 8:49We worship and serve the creature rather than the creator who is blessed forever.
- 8:53For this reason, God gave them up to dishonorable passions.
- 8:57And jump forward to 28.
- 8:59And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.
- 9:08OK, so this idea of giving them up, if you were here on Sunday, we were doing Romans 9.
- 9:14It's God saying, all right, deal with the consequences of your sin.
- 9:19It's giving him over to all the terrible things that follow our rebellion.
- 9:22So it's an act of judgment for him to just go, OK, go do it.
- 9:29And that's what in essence what we're saying.
- 9:32So so in the doctrines of grace or Calvinism, whatever it is, we use this phrase total depravity.
- 9:40Right. We've heard that phrase.
- 9:41Anybody know what depravity means?
- 9:44Biblically speaking, anybody?
- 9:45I don't care.
- 9:47Ty, we give a shot.
- 9:50No, what you're eating.
- 9:51It seems like a syndrome of corruption.
- 9:56Yeah.
- 9:57And you get a depravity of the worst it could possibly be.
- 10:00Yeah.
- 10:00So back on history, we talk about the worst we could possibly be.
- 10:04Mm hmm.
- 10:05Yeah.
- 10:06That's all we're talking about.
- 10:08Literally.
- 10:09Look at that last verse, that debased word.
- 10:13That's the word we're going to look at.
- 10:15That's what depravity is.
- 10:17Other translations may actually say depravity.
- 10:19Let's just look at MacArthur here to define it for us.
- 10:24He says, a godless mind is a depraved mind whose predetermined inevitable disposition is to do the things that are not proper.
- 10:33The basic meaning of a dakamas, which is depraved, is that of notwithstanding the test.
- 10:41And the term was commonly used for metals that were rejected by refiners because of impurities.
- 10:47See that to the connection.
- 10:48These impure metals were discarded and a dakamas.
- 10:54Therefore, came to include the ideas of worthlessness and uselessness.
- 11:00That's what we just read, right?
- 11:01In Romans, it became worthless, became useless.
- 11:04In relation to God, the rejected mind becomes a rejected mind and thereby becomes spiritually depraved, worthless and useless.
- 11:15The mind that finds God worthless becomes worthless itself.
- 11:19It is debauched, deceived, deserving only of God's divine wrath.
- 11:22So, important to remember this.
- 11:27Like, the reason, and this is hard, okay?
- 11:30So again, it's humbling for me.
- 11:34Before you were in Christ, you are worthless.
- 11:37That's what this just said.
- 11:40And the reason why is because we were created, again, we're going back to the beginning, in God's image for a purpose.
- 11:46That purpose was, again, to walk with Him and to reflect His holy character in all that we do and to have that special relationship with God, to bring glory in Him in all our lives.
- 11:57And so, sin has flipped that.
- 11:59It means that you have not fulfilled your purpose of being created.
- 12:04Therefore, you are depraved, right?
- 12:07These metals have these impurities that are discarded.
- 12:10Also important to remember, don't let anybody tell you if you are in Christ that you are depraved.
- 12:18You're not.
- 12:19There's a change that happens, okay?
- 12:21Now you're accounted as God's family.
- 12:24Now you're accounted as adopted, valuable, loved, cherished.
- 12:28Alright?
- 12:29So, and we have that.
- 12:30We're having that image restored in us, as it says in the New Testament now.
- 12:34So, we're learning.
- 12:36We're following Christ and becoming more like Christ in the process.
- 12:41So, I think, before we go further, pause for like maybe two minutes.
- 12:48Any questions?
- 12:50Hard words.
- 12:52They suck.
- 12:53But, how it is.
- 12:56I mean, you saw it right there, right?
- 12:58The Lord is talking about the mind.
- 13:00Do you need to pray?
- 13:02Just a word to pray.
- 13:04But, he's referring specifically to verse 28 in this one.
- 13:08It talks about being a debased mind or a depraved mind.
- 13:11We're just taking the word depraved.
- 13:13Yeah.
- 13:13So, when you said that we're no longer depraved as a believer,
- 13:19you're not speaking specifically of the mind being something different,
- 13:24but rather something more fundamental.
- 13:28Sure, yeah.
- 13:29I was just giving you a biblical example where depravity is found in the Bible.
- 13:32But, really, it's applied to our whole being as fallen people.
- 13:36But, yeah.
- 13:37But, the mind is corrupted for sure.
- 13:40So, yeah.
- 13:42But, as believers, what is our mind doing now?
- 13:44Being transformed by the renewal of our mind.
- 13:47So, it's changing.
- 13:49So, this also should invoke pity and brokenheartedness for those who are around us, right?
- 13:57Because, if they knew Christ, they could have that image restored again, right?
- 14:02So, that's what leads us to share with other people.
- 14:08But, yeah.
- 14:08We're going to get to...
- 14:10When we do the saving work of the Spirit,
- 14:13we'll talk more about why missions and evangelism are so important
- 14:17and why this is actually, like, fuel behind going, not a hindrance to it.
- 14:23So, yep.
- 14:28Let's walk through this first,
- 14:30because it's important to go through the Scripture first.
- 14:32Then I have just some other stuff for you on the PowerPoint.
- 14:37But, for now, I want you to think about that anatomy idea.
- 14:44You know, as I do this...
- 14:46You know, let's do this first.
- 14:47It's more important than going through that.
- 14:49But, alright, so man is not sick.
- 14:53Man is not injured.
- 14:56He is dead spiritually.
- 14:58Alright?
- 14:59And there's a lot of Scriptures that say these things.
- 15:02I just picked a few.
- 15:04But, point number one, really,
- 15:06as a result of Adam's transgressions,
- 15:09men are born in sin
- 15:10and by nature are spiritually dead.
- 15:13Therefore, if they are to become God's children
- 15:16and enter His kingdom,
- 15:17they must be born anew by the Spirit.
- 15:20So, think about that connection.
- 15:23You've heard the phrase being born again.
- 15:26You have to be born again
- 15:27because your condition is dead.
- 15:29Like, that's the point.
- 15:30It's connecting the two.
- 15:32Same thing as, like,
- 15:33there's a need for us to be regenerated by the Spirit.
- 15:37Let's just...
- 15:38Let's just pick two of these.
- 15:41This is the idea of original sin, right?
- 15:44That Augustine kind of coined.
- 15:47Let's look at Romans 5 there.
- 15:48Just as sin came into the world
- 15:50through one man
- 15:52and death through sin.
- 15:53And so death spread to all men
- 15:55because all have sinned.
- 15:57And then Ephesians 2.
- 16:00You were dead in your trespasses and sin,
- 16:03to which you once walked,
- 16:04following the course of this world,
- 16:07following the prince of the power of the air
- 16:08and the Spirit that has not worked
- 16:09in the sons of disobedience.
- 16:11So...
- 16:12But...
- 16:14That's so important
- 16:16because dead means corpse.
- 16:18Dead means useless.
- 16:19You can't do anything.
- 16:20Like...
- 16:21I may have never been to a funeral before
- 16:23and seen the corpse there like I have.
- 16:26They can't do anything.
- 16:27I can't say,
- 16:28hey, jump up and fix yourself.
- 16:30Put yourself together.
- 16:32You know,
- 16:33my grandmother just went to be with the Lord
- 16:35a few...
- 16:37Like last summer.
- 16:39And I couldn't say,
- 16:41come on, Mildred,
- 16:42just stand up.
- 16:42Get yourself together.
- 16:43You know?
- 16:45She would have slapped me silly
- 16:46if she had heard me say that.
- 16:47But...
- 16:48The corpse can't do anything.
- 16:51That's the connection.
- 16:52You need to be born again by the Spirit.
- 16:56So...
- 16:57And a dead person has no ability
- 16:58to do anything for themselves.
- 17:00Now, our spiritual senses
- 17:02are likewise darkened.
- 17:04Okay?
- 17:04So think about your senses.
- 17:06Sight.
- 17:08Feel.
- 17:08Touch.
- 17:09Those sort of things.
- 17:11As a result of the fall,
- 17:13men are blind and deaf
- 17:14to spiritual truth.
- 17:17Minds are darkened by sin
- 17:18and hearts corrupted by evil.
- 17:21We just read that in Romans 1.
- 17:23We just read it.
- 17:24But to give you a few more,
- 17:26I mean, right out of the gate,
- 17:27right in Genesis,
- 17:28the Lord saw the wickedness of man
- 17:30was great on the earth
- 17:31and every intention,
- 17:33every intention
- 17:34of the thoughts of his heart
- 17:36was only evil continually.
- 17:42Right?
- 17:43That's the heart.
- 17:45Look at Jeremiah 17.
- 17:46We all know this one.
- 17:47The heart is deceitful above all else.
- 17:49Desperately sick.
- 17:50Who can understand it?
- 17:52Don't follow your heart.
- 17:54Right?
- 17:55So that's the heart.
- 17:56Then Jesus talks about how
- 17:58all sorts of evil
- 18:00proceed from the heart of men.
- 18:03Look at 1 Corinthians there.
- 18:05The natural person,
- 18:07or the person without God,
- 18:08the person that's without Jesus,
- 18:10the natural person
- 18:12does not accept,
- 18:13does not accept
- 18:15the things of the Spirit of God.
- 18:18For they are followed to Him
- 18:19and He is not able
- 18:20to understand them
- 18:21because they are spiritually discerned.
- 18:25Yeah.
- 18:26So,
- 18:28if you look at Ephesians,
- 18:29oh shoot,
- 18:29I have the wrong,
- 18:30wrong one on here.
- 18:32It's the right chapter,
- 18:33wrong verse.
- 18:34I found it in my bed.
- 18:34I apologize.
- 18:35But it says,
- 18:37don't walk as the Gentiles
- 18:38do in the futility
- 18:39of their minds.
- 18:41See that?
- 18:42Like our minds
- 18:43are directed towards them.
- 18:46The darkened
- 18:47in their understanding,
- 18:48alienated from the life of God
- 18:49because of the ignorance
- 18:50of the image
- 18:50and the hardness
- 18:51of their heart.
- 18:53So,
- 18:54just look at that kind of language
- 18:55that's there.
- 18:59So yeah,
- 18:59there's a lot of other verses
- 19:01that kind of go with this.
- 19:02But,
- 19:03this is the scary one.
- 19:04This one scared the death.
- 19:06You know what?
- 19:06I mean,
- 19:07when I first read it,
- 19:08I was like,
- 19:08wow,
- 19:09I never thought about that.
- 19:11But,
- 19:13before in Christ,
- 19:14we're in bondage to Satan
- 19:15and slaves to sin.
- 19:18Right?
- 19:18It's not made up language.
- 19:21Before sinners are born
- 19:22to God's kingdom
- 19:23through the regenerating
- 19:24power of the Spirit,
- 19:25they are children
- 19:26of the devil.
- 19:28Satan.
- 19:29And under his control,
- 19:31they are slaves to sin.
- 19:33Alright?
- 19:35What?
- 19:38You,
- 19:38so,
- 19:40in the context of John 8,
- 19:42y'all know what's going on
- 19:43in John 8?
- 19:44Anybody remember
- 19:45what's going on in John 8?
- 19:47Jesus is arguing
- 19:48with the crowd.
- 19:49He's arguing
- 19:50with the Jews
- 19:51who were there.
- 19:52And they're
- 19:52giving him
- 19:53a lot of stuff
- 19:54and
- 19:55they're rejecting him.
- 19:58They're rejecting
- 19:58his words.
- 20:00They're rejecting
- 20:00his truth.
- 20:01And I don't want you
- 20:02to think about it.
- 20:03Like,
- 20:04you could have one person
- 20:05share about Christ
- 20:07with your friends
- 20:07or your family.
- 20:08Who would you want?
- 20:09Jesus,
- 20:09probably,
- 20:10right?
- 20:11He himself.
- 20:11So he's standing there,
- 20:12the Son of God,
- 20:13and he's talking to them.
- 20:14They're going,
- 20:16nope,
- 20:17nope.
- 20:18So this is what he says to them.
- 20:19He says,
- 20:20you are of your father,
- 20:23the devil.
- 20:24And your wills
- 20:25do your father's desires.
- 20:27Wow.
- 20:29He was a murderer
- 20:30from the beginning
- 20:30and nothing to do
- 20:31with the truth
- 20:32because the truth,
- 20:34because there is
- 20:35no truth in him.
- 20:37When he lies,
- 20:37he speaks of his own character
- 20:39for he is a liar
- 20:40and the father of lies.
- 20:432 Timothy,
- 20:45he's talking about
- 20:46sharing,
- 20:47you know,
- 20:48the good news
- 20:49with unbelievers
- 20:50in verse 26
- 20:51and hopes that,
- 20:53right,
- 20:53they may come to their senses
- 20:54and escape the snare
- 20:56of the devil
- 20:56after being captured
- 20:58by him
- 20:59to do his will.
- 21:01I mean,
- 21:01we all have like
- 21:02made these connections
- 21:02like they're everywhere
- 21:03and Jesus,
- 21:05I tell you the truth,
- 21:06truly,
- 21:06truly,
- 21:07everyone who commits sin
- 21:08is a slave
- 21:08to sin.
- 21:10And then Titus,
- 21:12we ourselves
- 21:13are once foolish
- 21:13to disobedient,
- 21:14slaves
- 21:15to various passions
- 21:17and pleasures.
- 21:17Right?
- 21:19So,
- 21:19that's not language
- 21:20that no one likes to hear.
- 21:22I'm,
- 21:22you know,
- 21:23and again,
- 21:25I'm looking at it
- 21:25in Christ now,
- 21:27like,
- 21:27oh my gosh,
- 21:27I had no idea
- 21:28it was that bad.
- 21:29Like,
- 21:29I had no idea
- 21:30that I was that
- 21:31ensnared
- 21:32by sin.
- 21:35Alright?
- 21:36Important to know,
- 21:38when we use the phrase
- 21:40total depravity,
- 21:42it's different
- 21:43than using the phrase
- 21:44utter depravity.
- 21:46Okay?
- 21:46There's a reason
- 21:47why we use that.
- 21:49Tolerance means
- 21:50that all our faculties
- 21:51have been corrupted
- 21:51by sin.
- 21:53But,
- 21:53through God's grace,
- 21:55we are able
- 21:55to do some things
- 21:56for good.
- 21:58Right?
- 21:58We are able
- 21:58to do some things
- 21:59that somewhat
- 22:00look like
- 22:01the image of God,
- 22:02but those are
- 22:03distorted still.
- 22:05Utter depravity
- 22:05means that we are
- 22:06as evil as we could be
- 22:08all the time.
- 22:09And that's not the case.
- 22:10Like,
- 22:10there's restraints
- 22:11on us.
- 22:11Right?
- 22:12You see
- 22:13utter depravity
- 22:14inch a little bit
- 22:15further
- 22:16with,
- 22:16you know,
- 22:17police going away
- 22:20and,
- 22:20like,
- 22:20the authority
- 22:21of the state
- 22:22going away
- 22:22and people
- 22:23just can do
- 22:23whatever they
- 22:24want to do.
- 22:25You're seeing
- 22:25that go a step
- 22:26further.
- 22:27There was
- 22:27restraints on them.
- 22:29So,
- 22:29utter depravity
- 22:30is different
- 22:30than total depravity.
- 22:32This one doesn't
- 22:33need a lot of
- 22:34explanation,
- 22:35but,
- 22:35like,
- 22:36how bad is it?
- 22:37everybody.
- 22:37Because you may
- 22:38think,
- 22:39deep down,
- 22:40like,
- 22:41I know I'm bad.
- 22:42I know I'm really bad,
- 22:42but I don't think
- 22:43I'm that bad.
- 22:44Like,
- 22:45it puts us all
- 22:46under the same
- 22:46umbrella.
- 22:47It does.
- 22:49Sin's reign
- 22:49is universal.
- 22:50All men
- 22:51are under sin's
- 22:52power,
- 22:53and consequently
- 22:54all are guilty,
- 22:55none are righteous,
- 22:57none are even one.
- 22:59We read this morning,
- 23:01I think,
- 23:02TJ read
- 23:03Psalm 130,
- 23:05if you,
- 23:05O Lord,
- 23:06should mark
- 23:06iniquities,
- 23:07O Lord,
- 23:08who could stand?
- 23:10Right?
- 23:10Like,
- 23:11are any of you
- 23:11ready to face
- 23:12God's judgment
- 23:12on your own,
- 23:13apart from Christ?
- 23:14Like,
- 23:15no,
- 23:15we could not stand.
- 23:16We would just
- 23:17perish before Him.
- 23:19And,
- 23:20so,
- 23:20we all know,
- 23:22I think that's
- 23:23a pretty commonly
- 23:24accepted one,
- 23:24that we're all
- 23:25under the same
- 23:25curse.
- 23:28But,
- 23:29there was a
- 23:30rabbi
- 23:31many years ago
- 23:32who wrote
- 23:34a book called,
- 23:35some of you
- 23:36are all
- 23:37enough to
- 23:37remember this,
- 23:38why do bad
- 23:38things happen
- 23:39to good people?
- 23:41Remember that?
- 23:43Krishna?
- 23:44What's his name?
- 23:46Well,
- 23:48as humbly
- 23:49and as gently
- 23:50as I can say
- 23:51this to him,
- 23:51it would be
- 23:51because there
- 23:52are no good
- 23:53people.
- 23:54That's what
- 23:55this says,
- 23:55right here,
- 23:56right?
- 23:56no one is
- 23:58righteous,
- 23:59not even one,
- 24:00no one understands,
- 24:00no one seeks God,
- 24:02all have turned
- 24:03aside,
- 24:05all have become
- 24:05worthless,
- 24:06as we just read,
- 24:07no one does
- 24:08good,
- 24:08not even one.
- 24:10Alright,
- 24:10so that's
- 24:11the condition
- 24:13we all find
- 24:14ourselves in.
- 24:15And our mind
- 24:16is hostile
- 24:17to God.
- 24:18See that in
- 24:18Romans 8?
- 24:19The mind
- 24:20that's in the
- 24:21flesh,
- 24:21right,
- 24:21is hostile
- 24:22towards God
- 24:23and will not
- 24:23submit to God's
- 24:25law.
- 24:26Won't.
- 24:26Won't do it.
- 24:28Alright,
- 24:28so this leads
- 24:30to the next
- 24:31and last point
- 24:32which is
- 24:33controversial,
- 24:36right?
- 24:38Men,
- 24:38being blind
- 24:39in death
- 24:40to spiritual
- 24:41truth,
- 24:42are unable
- 24:43of themselves
- 24:44to repent,
- 24:47to believe
- 24:47the gospel,
- 24:48or to come
- 24:49to Christ.
- 24:50They have no
- 24:51power within
- 24:51themselves to
- 24:52change their
- 24:53natures or
- 24:54prepare themselves
- 24:55for salvation.
- 24:56So,
- 24:57is it like,
- 24:57excuse me,
- 24:59some of you
- 24:59say,
- 25:00well,
- 25:00yeah,
- 25:00yeah,
- 25:00of course,
- 25:01I couldn't
- 25:01say myself,
- 25:03duh,
- 25:04but I kind
- 25:06of met God
- 25:06halfway,
- 25:07right?
- 25:07Like,
- 25:08I used my
- 25:09abilities and
- 25:09my goodness
- 25:11that was in
- 25:12me and all
- 25:12and my free
- 25:13will and I
- 25:13met God
- 25:14kind of halfway
- 25:15and then he
- 25:16did his part.
- 25:17well,
- 25:18no,
- 25:18what we're
- 25:18saying here
- 25:19is that
- 25:21you couldn't
- 25:22even prepare
- 25:22yourself for
- 25:23it.
- 25:23Like,
- 25:24you were so
- 25:24low.
- 25:25Really
- 25:26motivational,
- 25:26right,
- 25:27people?
- 25:27Like,
- 25:27just enough.
- 25:29I feel like
- 25:29I'm getting
- 25:29hammered,
- 25:29you know,
- 25:30I feel like
- 25:30I'm getting
- 25:30roasted here.
- 25:32So,
- 25:32and this is
- 25:33important,
- 25:33no man can
- 25:34come to
- 25:35faith in
- 25:35Christ unless
- 25:36God grants
- 25:37him repentance
- 25:38resulting in
- 25:40faith.
- 25:40Jeremiah,
- 25:45y'all know
- 25:45the song
- 25:46Jesus
- 25:46Painted
- 25:47All,
- 25:48the leper
- 25:49spots the
- 25:50heart of
- 25:50stone.
- 25:51What about
- 25:52the Bible?
- 25:52What about
- 25:52that?
- 25:53Can the
- 25:53Ethiopian
- 25:54change his
- 25:54skin or
- 25:56the leper
- 25:56his spots?
- 25:58And also,
- 25:59you can do
- 26:00good who are
- 26:01accustomed to
- 26:02doing evil.
- 26:04So,
- 26:04yeah,
- 26:04like,
- 26:04again,
- 26:05when you have
- 26:05no power,
- 26:06I have no
- 26:06power to
- 26:06change myself.
- 26:08I can't
- 26:09just reform
- 26:09myself and
- 26:10prepare myself
- 26:11for God.
- 26:14I'll give
- 26:15you another
- 26:15one.
- 26:21You see
- 26:22that in
- 26:222 Corinthians
- 26:22there,
- 26:23that blinded
- 26:24the mind,
- 26:25Satan,
- 26:26the God
- 26:26of this age,
- 26:27has blinded
- 26:28the minds
- 26:29of unbelievers
- 26:30to keep
- 26:31them from
- 26:32seeing the
- 26:32light of
- 26:33the gospel.
- 26:35And then
- 26:352 Timothy,
- 26:38you've got
- 26:38the second
- 26:39part,
- 26:39God may
- 26:40perhaps,
- 26:42perhaps,
- 26:43grant them
- 26:44repentance,
- 26:45leading to
- 26:46a knowledge
- 26:46of the
- 26:47truth.
- 26:48They may
- 26:48come to
- 26:49their senses
- 26:49and escape
- 26:50the snare
- 26:50of the devil
- 26:51who have
- 26:51been captured
- 26:51by him
- 26:52to do
- 26:52his will.
- 26:53So,
- 26:54this idea
- 26:54that God
- 26:54has to
- 26:55grant it,
- 26:56it has
- 26:57to come
- 26:57from God
- 26:58himself.
- 27:01Those are
- 27:01just a
- 27:01handful.
- 27:02Like,
- 27:02people told
- 27:03me this
- 27:03stuff,
- 27:03I'm like,
- 27:04yeah,
- 27:04I don't
- 27:04believe it,
- 27:04whatever.
- 27:05they
- 27:05started
- 27:06saying,
- 27:06what about
- 27:06that one?
- 27:07What about
- 27:07that one?
- 27:07And I
- 27:07was like,
- 27:08ah,
- 27:09they're
- 27:09drowning
- 27:10me in
- 27:11scripture
- 27:12here.
- 27:13So,
- 27:14I guess I'm
- 27:14just going to
- 27:15have to
- 27:15bow the
- 27:15knee and
- 27:15say,
- 27:16man,
- 27:16I am
- 27:16more,
- 27:18I was
- 27:19more
- 27:19wretched
- 27:20than I
- 27:20ever dreamed
- 27:21I was.
- 27:22Like,
- 27:22it was
- 27:22much worse.
- 27:23Like,
- 27:23the surgeon
- 27:24being like,
- 27:24I don't
- 27:25know how
- 27:25you were
- 27:25alive.
- 27:26Like,
- 27:26that's
- 27:26crazy.
- 27:28Worst
- 27:28pair of lungs
- 27:28I've ever
- 27:29seen.
- 27:29Isn't it
- 27:29weird I
- 27:30want to
- 27:30actually see
- 27:30them?
- 27:31I mean,
- 27:32they got
- 27:32rid of
- 27:32them before
- 27:32I was
- 27:33conscious.
- 27:35But,
- 27:35we were
- 27:36not just
- 27:37bad,
- 27:37we were
- 27:38really,
- 27:39really bad.
- 27:41So,
- 27:42any questions
- 27:43before we
- 27:43move on
- 27:44to the
- 27:46next section
- 27:46of this?
- 27:48About how
- 27:48bad we
- 27:49are?
- 27:49We were
- 27:49really bad.
- 27:50That's
- 27:51really only
- 27:53understandable
- 27:54in the
- 27:55context of
- 27:56how good
- 27:57God is.
- 27:58Yep.
- 27:58Mm-hmm.
- 27:59Standing
- 27:59on our
- 28:00own,
- 28:01we can
- 28:01justify
- 28:02all kinds
- 28:03of good
- 28:04behavior.
- 28:06But,
- 28:06that's not
- 28:07what we're
- 28:07talking about.
- 28:08Nope.
- 28:09No,
- 28:09no,
- 28:10look,
- 28:10listen,
- 28:10you may
- 28:11be very
- 28:11good compared
- 28:12to some
- 28:13people you
- 28:13know.
- 28:14Right?
- 28:15Like,
- 28:15that's a,
- 28:16you hear the
- 28:17gospel people,
- 28:18most people,
- 28:20but that's
- 28:21changing now,
- 28:22most people
- 28:22have some
- 28:23morality,
- 28:24they're like,
- 28:24some sense
- 28:25of right and
- 28:25wrong,
- 28:27and they'll
- 28:27say,
- 28:27well,
- 28:27I'm not
- 28:28that bad.
- 28:29Nobody's
- 28:30perfect,
- 28:30right?
- 28:30I'm like,
- 28:31yeah,
- 28:31you have no
- 28:32idea how
- 28:32ironic that
- 28:33saying is.
- 28:34You're right,
- 28:34no one's
- 28:34perfect,
- 28:35and the
- 28:35standard is
- 28:36perfection.
- 28:37You're not
- 28:38there,
- 28:38and I'm
- 28:39not either.
- 28:40So,
- 28:41it's,
- 28:41so yeah,
- 28:44only after you
- 28:45contemplate who
- 28:46God is do you
- 28:47actually see this
- 28:48first.
- 28:49Probably could have
- 28:50it a whole other
- 28:50week,
- 28:50just talking about
- 28:51how great God
- 28:52was,
- 28:52and then we
- 28:52showed up here,
- 28:53and we're like,
- 28:53oh man,
- 28:54we're done.
- 28:54Colin,
- 28:56in his
- 28:56institutes,
- 28:57writes something
- 28:57like,
- 28:59like if you
- 29:01look down at
- 29:02the ground,
- 29:04and you can
- 29:04see things on
- 29:05the ground,
- 29:06like rocks,
- 29:08dirt,
- 29:08whatever,
- 29:09down near your
- 29:09feet,
- 29:10and very,
- 29:10very clear,
- 29:12right?
- 29:12Like your vision's
- 29:13very clear.
- 29:14You can see it
- 29:15perfectly,
- 29:17unless you have
- 29:17this bad eyesight,
- 29:18like me.
- 29:19And,
- 29:19he compares that
- 29:21with looking at
- 29:22your earthly
- 29:22righteousness.
- 29:24Like,
- 29:24as long as I'm
- 29:25focused on earth,
- 29:26it's good.
- 29:27He's like,
- 29:27as soon as you
- 29:28gaze,
- 29:28like straight into
- 29:29the sun,
- 29:30your vision just
- 29:31blurts,
- 29:32right?
- 29:33He's like,
- 29:33that's what it's
- 29:34like to compare
- 29:35your righteousness
- 29:35to God's.
- 29:36Like,
- 29:36you can't.
- 29:38And,
- 29:38your righteousness
- 29:39is skewed
- 29:40at that point.
- 29:42So,
- 29:44you know,
- 29:45but yeah,
- 29:45only after you
- 29:47have contemplated
- 29:48the face of God
- 29:48and come to
- 29:49look into
- 29:50yourself.
- 29:52Anybody else?
- 29:56We're all
- 29:56family here.
- 29:57I know nobody
- 29:58came here
- 29:59to hear from me,
- 30:00but I'll say
- 30:01that I
- 30:04oftentimes
- 30:04don't feel
- 30:06a great draw
- 30:08to get into
- 30:09the Word
- 30:09or to pray,
- 30:12but what I've
- 30:14learned is
- 30:14that if I
- 30:15open up the
- 30:15Psalms
- 30:16or go to
- 30:17the last few
- 30:18chapters of
- 30:18Job,
- 30:19start contemplating
- 30:21God and
- 30:22His holiness
- 30:23and mightiness,
- 30:25it doesn't take me
- 30:26long to be very
- 30:27affected and
- 30:28really want to
- 30:29pray.
- 30:30Yeah,
- 30:30turn the light
- 30:31to the roof.
- 30:31so I think
- 30:33that illustrates
- 30:35to a great point
- 30:36that even
- 30:38in my
- 30:38redeemed state,
- 30:40the reality
- 30:41is that
- 30:42the old man
- 30:43is still
- 30:44within me
- 30:44and those
- 30:45same things
- 30:46that are
- 30:46described in
- 30:47Scripture
- 30:48about the
- 30:49lost and the
- 30:50depraved,
- 30:50praise God
- 30:52that I'm not
- 30:52relieved with
- 30:54them,
- 30:54but at the same
- 30:55time,
- 30:56those things
- 30:56are still
- 30:56so present
- 30:58in me
- 30:59knowing the
- 31:02holiness and
- 31:02greatness of
- 31:03God is the
- 31:04only way
- 31:06that I can
- 31:07see myself
- 31:08as I am
- 31:09and the
- 31:09Lord.
- 31:10That's good,
- 31:11brother.
- 31:13Yeah,
- 31:13knowing what
- 31:14God's known in
- 31:14your life,
- 31:15I agree with
- 31:16you.
- 31:16That's awesome.
- 31:18So,
- 31:19I heard Aaron
- 31:20Menekoff at
- 31:21Mount Vernon.
- 31:21We were at
- 31:22that conference.
- 31:23What was really
- 31:25funny was,
- 31:26you know,
- 31:26I was preaching
- 31:26on election
- 31:27that Sunday
- 31:27and he taught
- 31:28on election
- 31:28at that
- 31:29pastor's
- 31:29conference.
- 31:31His main
- 31:31goal was
- 31:32that all
- 31:32doctrine is
- 31:33practical and
- 31:34all doctrine
- 31:34affects us.
- 31:35It's not like
- 31:35there's doctrine
- 31:36and there's
- 31:36practical.
- 31:37Look at all
- 31:38in Mary together.
- 31:40And he said
- 31:40these discussions
- 31:41on what we're
- 31:42talking about
- 31:42are in-house
- 31:43conversations.
- 31:46There's conversations
- 31:47you mainly
- 31:48talk to about
- 31:49with your family
- 31:50and they get it
- 31:51because they're
- 31:51your family.
- 31:52Right?
- 31:52That's kind
- 31:52of what
- 31:53the goal
- 31:54of this is.
- 31:57And Jay,
- 31:57why is that?
- 31:58You brought
- 31:58up a really
- 31:58good point.
- 31:59Why?
- 32:00Why is it so
- 32:00hard to focus
- 32:01on God?
- 32:01You can focus
- 32:02on a lot
- 32:02of other
- 32:02things easily.
- 32:04Why?
- 32:05It's so hard
- 32:06to think about
- 32:06God.
- 32:08It's like
- 32:09we've had a
- 32:10stroke spiritually.
- 32:11I can't do it.
- 32:12We need help.
- 32:13It's like
- 32:14loving
- 32:14of pride.
- 32:15Because he's
- 32:18holy.
- 32:19He's so
- 32:20other
- 32:20from anything
- 32:22else in our
- 32:23daily lives.
- 32:26I think
- 32:27about it
- 32:27as long as
- 32:28maybe
- 32:29a little bit
- 32:30we see more
- 32:32of our sin
- 32:32and then more
- 32:33of his
- 32:34greatness in it.
- 32:36It can be a little
- 32:36overwhelming.
- 32:37Yeah.
- 32:37Very overwhelming.
- 32:39Yeah.
- 32:40And that way
- 32:40to be careful
- 32:41not to get
- 32:41it away.
- 32:42Because we
- 32:42have to develop
- 32:43this sense
- 32:43of unworthiness
- 32:45where we're
- 32:45fearful to draw
- 32:46near to God
- 32:48through Christ.
- 32:50But yeah,
- 32:50it's just
- 32:52self-evident.
- 32:53Why is it so
- 32:54hard for us
- 32:55to do what
- 32:56God calls us
- 32:56to do sometimes?
- 32:58And why is it
- 32:58easy to do
- 32:59other things?
- 33:00I could focus
- 33:00on other
- 33:01things for hours
- 33:01and just lose
- 33:03myself in it.
- 33:04But when it
- 33:04comes to God,
- 33:05what is it
- 33:06that makes
- 33:06us just turn
- 33:07off sometimes?
- 33:08And we need
- 33:08that extra
- 33:09help by the
- 33:10Spirit to
- 33:11really engage
- 33:11our minds
- 33:12and engage
- 33:12our hearts.
- 33:13It's just
- 33:14self-evident.
- 33:15Again,
- 33:15we've had
- 33:16something go
- 33:16wrong spiritually,
- 33:18right?
- 33:19Even as
- 33:19believers,
- 33:20we have to
- 33:20fight it.
- 33:23Anything else?
- 33:28All right.
- 33:28Let's get
- 33:29into some
- 33:29other fun
- 33:30stuff.
- 33:32Oh,
- 33:33sorry.
- 33:33I guess
- 33:34I'd also
- 33:34choose to
- 33:35have
- 33:35believers
- 33:36there
- 33:36to
- 33:37still
- 33:37sin
- 33:37in us
- 33:38that
- 33:38first
- 33:39step
- 33:39because
- 33:39if
- 33:40we
- 33:40didn't
- 33:41still
- 33:41it
- 33:42wasn't
- 33:42still
- 33:42sin
- 33:42in us
- 33:44then
- 33:45we
- 33:46wouldn't
- 33:46have
- 33:47that
- 33:47issue.
- 33:47we
- 33:49were
- 33:49in the
- 33:50process
- 33:50of
- 33:51becoming
- 33:51perfect.
- 33:52We're
- 33:52not
- 33:52there.
- 33:52This is
- 33:53sanctification.
- 33:55But thank
- 33:55goodness,
- 33:56though,
- 33:56unlike Rome,
- 33:58Rome puts
- 33:58sanctification
- 33:59before
- 34:00justification.
- 34:01You know that?
- 34:02So only
- 34:02once you've
- 34:03reached a
- 34:04certain state
- 34:04of perfection
- 34:05or holiness
- 34:06then is
- 34:08right for
- 34:08God to
- 34:09justify you.
- 34:10So God
- 34:11helps those
- 34:11who help
- 34:12themselves.
- 34:12that's
- 34:13just not
- 34:14what
- 34:14Romans 5
- 34:14teaches
- 34:15at all.
- 34:15We were
- 34:16justified,
- 34:18right?
- 34:18Then
- 34:18sanctified.
- 34:20So to
- 34:22give you a
- 34:22few things
- 34:24here,
- 34:27over how
- 34:28has sin
- 34:29affected the
- 34:34will of
- 34:35man?
- 34:35because we
- 34:37use the
- 34:37term free
- 34:38will like
- 34:39like crazy.
- 34:41You know,
- 34:41we hear it
- 34:42in culture,
- 34:43we hear it
- 34:43from non-Christians,
- 34:44we hear it
- 34:44from Christians.
- 34:46What does it
- 34:46mean?
- 34:49My youth
- 34:50pastor,
- 34:51well,
- 34:52actually,
- 34:53I was already
- 34:53out of high
- 34:54school,
- 34:54but he was
- 34:56a new youth
- 34:56pastor when I
- 34:57was a freshman
- 34:57of college,
- 34:58and I was
- 34:58going to
- 34:59school close
- 34:59to home.
- 35:00So I
- 35:00helped out
- 35:01with the
- 35:01youth because
- 35:01I was kind
- 35:02of a young
- 35:02believer.
- 35:02I know a
- 35:03lot more
- 35:03than these
- 35:03schools.
- 35:04So I'll
- 35:05come here
- 35:05and try
- 35:05to help
- 35:06these younger
- 35:07people out.
- 35:08But he's
- 35:09the one who
- 35:09introduced me
- 35:10to all of
- 35:10this.
- 35:11And I
- 35:11loved him
- 35:12and I
- 35:12couldn't
- 35:12stand him
- 35:13because he
- 35:13would just
- 35:14shoot down
- 35:14what I
- 35:15believe just
- 35:15by saying
- 35:16some things.
- 35:18But one
- 35:20time he
- 35:21was just
- 35:23sitting back
- 35:23on the desk
- 35:24with his
- 35:24kind of
- 35:24smug face,
- 35:25kind of his
- 35:25feet propped
- 35:26up, and he
- 35:26was just
- 35:27like,
- 35:27so what is
- 35:27free will,
- 35:28Clay?
- 35:28And I
- 35:28was like,
- 35:31I don't
- 35:32know,
- 35:32I heard
- 35:33a movie.
- 35:34So,
- 35:35he's like,
- 35:36all right,
- 35:37go figure
- 35:37that out,
- 35:37then come
- 35:38back before
- 35:39we continue
- 35:39this.
- 35:40So,
- 35:41I just had
- 35:42to wear it.
- 35:44But in
- 35:45short,
- 35:47the will
- 35:48is the
- 35:50faculty or
- 35:51the power
- 35:51of making
- 35:52choices.
- 35:53Okay?
- 35:54There's a
- 35:54difference
- 35:55between choosing
- 35:55something and
- 35:57willing something.
- 35:58All right?
- 35:58our will
- 35:59is what
- 36:00governs our
- 36:01choices.
- 36:02Right?
- 36:03It controls
- 36:04what choices
- 36:05we make.
- 36:06Our wills
- 36:06do.
- 36:08So,
- 36:09let's go
- 36:10back over
- 36:10this a little
- 36:11bit.
- 36:13So,
- 36:13there's
- 36:14arguably
- 36:17more,
- 36:17but there's
- 36:18three major
- 36:19controversies.
- 36:21So,
- 36:21you had to
- 36:21see the
- 36:21scripture
- 36:22first.
- 36:23All right?
- 36:23Now,
- 36:24we're going
- 36:24to look at
- 36:24some church
- 36:25history.
- 36:26Not enough
- 36:27just to have
- 36:27church history.
- 36:28But there
- 36:29was a
- 36:30major
- 36:30controversy
- 36:31around
- 36:311418,
- 36:33the early
- 36:33part of
- 36:34the church
- 36:35where
- 36:35Augustine
- 36:38was the
- 36:38primary
- 36:39influence
- 36:40at that
- 36:41time.
- 36:42He coined
- 36:42the term
- 36:43original sin.
- 36:44You've
- 36:44heard that?
- 36:45Like we're
- 36:45born in a
- 36:46fallen sinful
- 36:47state.
- 36:47Thinking about
- 36:48what David
- 36:48said and
- 36:49others.
- 36:50And he
- 36:51wrote a
- 36:52prayer in
- 36:54his
- 36:54confessions.
- 36:55And it
- 36:55basically said,
- 36:56Lord,
- 36:57command what
- 36:58you will,
- 36:58but grant
- 36:59what you
- 37:00command.
- 37:01Meaning like,
- 37:02Lord,
- 37:02you've
- 37:02commanded us
- 37:04to do
- 37:04this,
- 37:04but give
- 37:05us your
- 37:05grace to
- 37:06do it.
- 37:06We need
- 37:07your grace
- 37:08to be
- 37:08faithful to
- 37:08you.
- 37:08We need
- 37:09your grace
- 37:09to keep
- 37:09your
- 37:10commandments.
- 37:10Right?
- 37:11And so,
- 37:12yeah,
- 37:13it makes
- 37:13sense to
- 37:13us.
- 37:15But there
- 37:15was a
- 37:15British
- 37:16monk
- 37:16named
- 37:17Pelagius.
- 37:18This is
- 37:18like Romanized
- 37:19Britain time.
- 37:21And he
- 37:21had an
- 37:22issue with
- 37:22that.
- 37:22He was
- 37:23like,
- 37:23God
- 37:23wouldn't
- 37:23command us
- 37:24to do
- 37:24something
- 37:24if we
- 37:25couldn't
- 37:25do it.
- 37:25And it
- 37:28just started
- 37:28this huge
- 37:29controversy
- 37:30in the
- 37:30church.
- 37:32And he
- 37:32was the
- 37:32one who
- 37:32talked about
- 37:33the idea
- 37:34of man's
- 37:34will being
- 37:35free.
- 37:37Alright?
- 37:38So look at
- 37:39the Augustinian
- 37:40view versus
- 37:41the Pelagian
- 37:42view.
- 37:43Alright?
- 37:45The
- 37:46Augustinian
- 37:46view,
- 37:47we're going
- 37:47to go
- 37:47from left
- 37:49to right
- 37:49here.
- 37:50Adam's sin
- 37:51affected the
- 37:51entire human
- 37:52race.
- 37:53That's what we
- 37:53just read out
- 37:54of Romans 5,
- 37:54right?
- 37:56Pelagius
- 37:57said sin
- 37:57affected only
- 37:58Adam.
- 38:00And he
- 38:00coined the
- 38:01phrase like
- 38:02tabula
- 38:02rosa,
- 38:03right?
- 38:03The clean
- 38:03slave.
- 38:04You're born
- 38:04a clean
- 38:05slave,
- 38:06untainted
- 38:06by sin.
- 38:08Adam messed
- 38:08up,
- 38:09but you
- 38:09don't have
- 38:09to mess
- 38:09up,
- 38:10right?
- 38:10That's kind
- 38:11of what he
- 38:11was basically
- 38:11saying.
- 38:13In short,
- 38:16Augustin
- 38:17taught man
- 38:17was born
- 38:18into a
- 38:18state of
- 38:19sin and
- 38:20spiritually
- 38:21dead,
- 38:21right?
- 38:22That's what
- 38:22we just
- 38:22read Ephesians
- 38:23to.
- 38:24He said,
- 38:25no,
- 38:25man is
- 38:25born into
- 38:26a state
- 38:26of righteousness
- 38:27and spiritual
- 38:28life.
- 38:29Clean
- 38:30slave.
- 38:31Alright?
- 38:32Now here's
- 38:32the deal.
- 38:34Third,
- 38:35man could
- 38:35not
- 38:36live or
- 38:38do any
- 38:39spiritual
- 38:39good apart
- 38:40from God's
- 38:41sovereign
- 38:42grace.
- 38:44Then Pelagius
- 38:45said,
- 38:46man could
- 38:47live and
- 38:48do spiritual
- 38:48good apart
- 38:49from God's
- 38:49grace.
- 38:51None of
- 38:51us would
- 38:51probably go
- 38:52that far,
- 38:52right?
- 38:53But basically
- 38:53if this is
- 38:54true,
- 38:54the man
- 38:55doesn't need
- 38:55a savior.
- 38:56He needs
- 38:56a teacher.
- 38:57He needs
- 38:58some moral
- 38:58assistance.
- 38:59He needs
- 38:59a life
- 39:00coach.
- 39:01He's got
- 39:01the ability
- 39:02within himself
- 39:04because he's
- 39:04not falling,
- 39:05he's not
- 39:05tainted.
- 39:07So he
- 39:07just needs
- 39:07a teacher
- 39:07to help
- 39:08him.
- 39:08Like,
- 39:08yeah,
- 39:09go that
- 39:09way,
- 39:09buddy.
- 39:10Do this.
- 39:10Live that
- 39:11way.
- 39:12And man
- 39:12has the
- 39:12ability.
- 39:13He could
- 39:13do it
- 39:14on his
- 39:14own without
- 39:15Christ's
- 39:16grace.
- 39:17But eventually
- 39:18the church
- 39:19kind of
- 39:20anathemaed
- 39:21and kicked
- 39:22Pelagius out
- 39:23of the
- 39:23official
- 39:24accepted
- 39:24church
- 39:25at that
- 39:25time.
- 39:27Probably
- 39:27for good.
- 39:29Augustine
- 39:30also taught
- 39:31this about
- 39:31the will
- 39:32of man.
- 39:32This is
- 39:32important
- 39:33because you're
- 39:33like,
- 39:33I make
- 39:34choices
- 39:34every day,
- 39:35so aren't
- 39:36I free?
- 39:36Like,
- 39:38I do this,
- 39:38I want to
- 39:39go home
- 39:40and do
- 39:40what I
- 39:41want to
- 39:41do and
- 39:41go to
- 39:41bed.
- 39:42Well,
- 39:42some of
- 39:42you.
- 39:43And so,
- 39:45but this
- 39:45is what
- 39:45he defined
- 39:46it as.
- 39:46Free will
- 39:47is the
- 39:47faculty or
- 39:48power by
- 39:49which choices
- 39:50are made.
- 39:51Right?
- 39:52Now,
- 39:53he made a
- 39:53distinction
- 39:54between
- 39:56earthly choices
- 39:57and spiritual
- 39:58choices.
- 39:58moral
- 40:01liberty,
- 40:02the ability
- 40:03to use
- 40:04that faculty
- 40:05of free
- 40:06will to
- 40:07embrace the
- 40:07things of
- 40:07God.
- 40:09Does that
- 40:09make sense?
- 40:11Right?
- 40:12After the
- 40:12fall,
- 40:13moral
- 40:13liberty was
- 40:14lost,
- 40:15but free
- 40:16will remained.
- 40:17Meaning,
- 40:17like,
- 40:18yeah,
- 40:18I can still
- 40:18make choices,
- 40:19but those
- 40:19choices don't
- 40:21include the
- 40:22things of
- 40:22God.
- 40:23It's like
- 40:23we can't
- 40:24do things
- 40:25spiritually.
- 40:26But we can
- 40:27make decisions
- 40:27every day
- 40:28but we're
- 40:29kind of like
- 40:29the walking
- 40:30dead,
- 40:31really.
- 40:31We don't
- 40:32have that
- 40:33ability to
- 40:34make any
- 40:35spiritual good.
- 40:36So he
- 40:36equated that
- 40:37with moral
- 40:37liberty.
- 40:38That was
- 40:38lost after
- 40:39the fall.
- 40:40Right?
- 40:41But not
- 40:41until
- 40:42regeneration
- 40:42occurs and
- 40:43man's,
- 40:44is man's
- 40:45moral liberty
- 40:46returned.
- 40:47Alright?
- 40:47Now,
- 40:47so when we're
- 40:48born again,
- 40:50that's restored.
- 40:51Right?
- 40:52God saves us.
- 40:53He gives us
- 40:53a new heart.
- 40:55Puts His
- 40:55spirit within
- 40:56us.
- 40:56Writes His
- 40:57law in
- 40:57our hearts.
- 40:57And so,
- 40:59so then,
- 41:00after regeneration,
- 41:02that moral
- 41:03liberty is
- 41:03restored where
- 41:04we can freely
- 41:04love God
- 41:05again.
- 41:06Alright?
- 41:06So we're
- 41:07not robots.
- 41:07We're not
- 41:07puppets.
- 41:08We'll shoot
- 41:08that,
- 41:08we'll beat
- 41:09that to
- 41:09the ground.
- 41:10Okay?
- 41:10That's not
- 41:10what this
- 41:11is.
- 41:13I think I
- 41:15mentioned
- 41:15that very
- 41:16few people
- 41:17that I
- 41:17respect that
- 41:18are on the
- 41:19other side of
- 41:20this debate
- 41:20at all.
- 41:22But one,
- 41:22I think most
- 41:23of us would
- 41:23have a measure
- 41:24of respect
- 41:24for BCS
- 41:25Lewis.
- 41:26Right?
- 41:26He won't
- 41:28the very
- 41:28few.
- 41:31But we
- 41:31would call him
- 41:32more of a
- 41:32writer and
- 41:33literary guy
- 41:34versus a
- 41:34Bible teacher
- 41:35and theologian.
- 41:36But he
- 41:37made a good
- 41:37argument.
- 41:38He said,
- 41:38for love,
- 41:40I'm paraphrasing,
- 41:41for love to
- 41:42be love,
- 41:43it has to be
- 41:44offered by
- 41:45both parties.
- 41:45Right?
- 41:46You can't
- 41:46force somebody
- 41:47to love you.
- 41:48You can't
- 41:48impose your
- 41:49love on them
- 41:49and say,
- 41:49love me.
- 41:50It has to be
- 41:51freely offered
- 41:52by both parties.
- 41:54Therefore,
- 41:55he saw,
- 41:55like God's
- 41:56election or
- 41:57God was
- 41:59forcing his
- 42:00love on
- 42:01somebody who
- 42:02didn't want
- 42:02it.
- 42:03I would
- 42:04say,
- 42:04I agree
- 42:05with you,
- 42:07C.S.
- 42:07Lewis.
- 42:07Like,
- 42:09for love
- 42:09to be
- 42:09loved,
- 42:10it has to
- 42:10be freely
- 42:11offered by
- 42:11both parties.
- 42:13Are we all
- 42:13on board
- 42:13with that?
- 42:15You know
- 42:16what the
- 42:16problem is?
- 42:17Anybody?
- 42:19Are you
- 42:19thinking about
- 42:19a fallen
- 42:20man?
- 42:21He doesn't
- 42:22have the
- 42:22ability.
- 42:22He won't.
- 42:23He won't
- 42:24love God.
- 42:25Like,
- 42:25cannot and
- 42:26will not
- 42:27love God
- 42:28unless God
- 42:29does something
- 42:30first.
- 42:30Unless God
- 42:31gives him
- 42:32a new heart.
- 42:34And so
- 42:34that's what
- 42:35he basically
- 42:36is saying
- 42:36in the idea
- 42:37is he gives
- 42:37him back
- 42:38moral liberty
- 42:39after he's
- 42:39born again.
- 42:40That's
- 42:41restore so
- 42:41we can
- 42:42freely love
- 42:42God,
- 42:43freely obey
- 42:44God,
- 42:45freely walk
- 42:46with him.
- 42:48Hey,
- 42:49girls,
- 42:50this is the
- 42:50chart I
- 42:51tried to
- 42:51draw you
- 42:51in the
- 42:52back of
- 42:52that
- 42:52napkin.
- 42:53Didn't
- 42:54work out
- 42:54real well.
- 42:55So,
- 42:56yeah?
- 42:57there he
- 43:02is.
- 43:02Yeah,
- 43:03I mean,
- 43:04you can
- 43:05just shoot
- 43:06it out
- 43:06all night.
- 43:07Yeah,
- 43:07it's all
- 43:07over the
- 43:07place.
- 43:08We love
- 43:08because he
- 43:09first loved
- 43:10us.
- 43:11Exactly.
- 43:13I want to
- 43:14take credit
- 43:14for this.
- 43:15I think it
- 43:15was out of
- 43:15one of
- 43:16R.C.
- 43:16Spurl's
- 43:17books a
- 43:17long time
- 43:18ago.
- 43:19But look
- 43:19at this.
- 43:20Pre-fall,
- 43:21Adam and
- 43:22Eve,
- 43:22we were
- 43:22able to
- 43:23sin and
- 43:24able to
- 43:25not sin.
- 43:26They
- 43:27sinned.
- 43:27So then it
- 43:28goes to
- 43:28the fallen
- 43:29depraved
- 43:30condition.
- 43:31Able to
- 43:31sin,
- 43:33unable to
- 43:34not sin.
- 43:35That's
- 43:35like all
- 43:35we can
- 43:36do.
- 43:38Regenerate.
- 43:38This is
- 43:38where we
- 43:39are right
- 43:39now.
- 43:41We're able
- 43:41to sin and
- 43:42we're able
- 43:42to not
- 43:43sin.
- 43:43We can
- 43:43do both.
- 43:44We can
- 43:45choose to
- 43:45please God
- 43:46and obey
- 43:47His commandments
- 43:48with a
- 43:48loving heart.
- 43:50And we
- 43:50can choose
- 43:51to go back
- 43:51to our
- 43:52vomit.
- 43:53As the
- 43:53scripture
- 43:53says.
- 43:54To which
- 43:55He promptly
- 43:56kicks us
- 43:58back out
- 43:59of love.
- 44:01But glorified,
- 44:02which we're
- 44:02all going
- 44:03towards.
- 44:04Able to
- 44:04not sin.
- 44:06Unable to
- 44:07sin.
- 44:08Yay!
- 44:09Can't wait
- 44:09until we
- 44:10get to
- 44:10that point.
- 44:13Whoa.
- 44:15Put the
- 44:16plagianism
- 44:16down.
- 44:17Step
- 44:18away.
- 44:19I don't
- 44:19know who
- 44:20put that
- 44:20in there.
- 44:20All right.
- 44:25So this,
- 44:25so in
- 44:26the
- 44:27Reformation,
- 44:28Luther
- 44:29wrote a
- 44:31book called
- 44:32Bondage of
- 44:34the Will.
- 44:34Anybody
- 44:34heard of
- 44:35that book?
- 44:36I worked
- 44:36my way
- 44:36through
- 44:37about
- 44:37maybe
- 44:37halfway
- 44:38of it
- 44:38and I
- 44:38let a
- 44:39prim bar
- 44:39and I
- 44:39never
- 44:39finished
- 44:40reading it.
- 44:40So,
- 44:41Rome was
- 44:48getting their
- 44:48clock
- 44:49cleaned
- 44:50by the
- 44:51reformers.
- 44:52Needless to
- 44:53say,
- 44:53they were
- 44:53losing a lot
- 44:54of support.
- 44:55And so
- 44:55they got
- 44:56their top
- 44:56deologian,
- 44:58their number
- 44:58one guy,
- 45:00Desiderius
- 45:01Erasmus.
- 45:03And they
- 45:04said,
- 45:04hey,
- 45:04we want
- 45:04you to
- 45:05take an
- 45:06aim
- 45:06at Luther.
- 45:08like,
- 45:09go after
- 45:09his
- 45:10teaching
- 45:10and like,
- 45:12you know,
- 45:14he did
- 45:14some
- 45:15valuable
- 45:16things.
- 45:16He actually
- 45:17wrote a
- 45:17Greek New
- 45:18Testament
- 45:18that he
- 45:21actually
- 45:21pointed out
- 45:22to the
- 45:22Pope,
- 45:23hey,
- 45:23the Latin
- 45:24Volgae
- 45:24actually has
- 45:25some errors
- 45:25in it.
- 45:26It's not
- 45:27consistent with
- 45:28the Greek
- 45:28and the
- 45:28Pope's
- 45:28like,
- 45:28yeah,
- 45:29thanks,
- 45:29thank you,
- 45:30good,
- 45:30go sit
- 45:31down,
- 45:32in short,
- 45:32kind of
- 45:32dismissed it.
- 45:34But yeah,
- 45:34he pointed
- 45:34out that the
- 45:35Volgae had
- 45:35many errors
- 45:36in it.
- 45:36Some people
- 45:37say,
- 45:37the Bible
- 45:37had errors
- 45:38in it.
- 45:38Yeah,
- 45:38it did.
- 45:39Well,
- 45:39a certain
- 45:39translation
- 45:40of it did.
- 45:41Not the
- 45:41original
- 45:41language
- 45:42that we
- 45:42have.
- 45:45But,
- 45:45what's really
- 45:46funny is that
- 45:47Luther loved
- 45:48Erasmus'
- 45:49Greek New
- 45:49Testament.
- 45:50He used it
- 45:51all the
- 45:51time.
- 45:52Then he
- 45:52used his
- 45:53own work
- 45:53against him
- 45:54in this
- 45:54debate,
- 45:55which is
- 45:55really
- 45:55funny.
- 45:57If you
- 45:58know anything
- 45:58about Luther,
- 45:59he was not
- 45:59like a nice,
- 46:00quiet,
- 46:00polite guy.
- 46:01He was more
- 46:01like the guy
- 46:02you might see
- 46:02in a tavern
- 46:02with a beer
- 46:03and a turkey
- 46:03leg.
- 46:05That's kind
- 46:05of more of
- 46:06his personality.
- 46:06bull in a
- 46:08china closet.
- 46:10Not real
- 46:10refined.
- 46:12That would be
- 46:12more like
- 46:12Calvin's
- 46:13personality.
- 46:14So what
- 46:14Erasmus did
- 46:15was that he
- 46:17took what
- 46:19Pelagius taught,
- 46:20but he just
- 46:20took it a step
- 46:20further.
- 46:21Right?
- 46:22Alright,
- 46:23man's not
- 46:23born clean.
- 46:26He's born
- 46:27sinful,
- 46:27but he
- 46:28hasn't lost
- 46:29all his
- 46:29ability yet.
- 46:30He still
- 46:31has some
- 46:31ability left
- 46:32in order
- 46:33to cooperate
- 46:34with the
- 46:34grace of
- 46:35God.
- 46:35Is that
- 46:35right?
- 46:35Follow that?
- 46:36He just
- 46:36took it
- 46:36a step
- 46:37further.
- 46:37So man
- 46:39is sick.
- 46:40That's
- 46:41basically what
- 46:41you could
- 46:41equate it
- 46:41to.
- 46:42Man is
- 46:43sick and
- 46:43he needs
- 46:44a physician.
- 46:45That physician
- 46:46shows up and
- 46:46says,
- 46:47hey,
- 46:47take my
- 46:47medicine,
- 46:48take my
- 46:48remedy,
- 46:49and you
- 46:49can use
- 46:50your free
- 46:50will at
- 46:51that point
- 46:51to say,
- 46:52okay,
- 46:52I'm on
- 46:52board,
- 46:53like
- 46:53Satan.
- 46:54Get this
- 46:54done.
- 46:56So that's
- 46:57where most
- 46:57people,
- 46:59probably in the
- 46:59evangelical church
- 47:00probably fall
- 47:01right?
- 47:01Most of
- 47:02us,
- 47:02that's
- 47:02why I
- 47:03grew up
- 47:03kind of
- 47:03thinking,
- 47:04I'm really
- 47:04sick and
- 47:05Jesus is
- 47:06going to
- 47:06give me
- 47:06my
- 47:06medicine,
- 47:07I'm
- 47:07going to
- 47:07get
- 47:07better.
- 47:09So that's
- 47:09the controversy.
- 47:11It's called
- 47:11the,
- 47:11in history,
- 47:13it's called
- 47:13the monergism,
- 47:14synergism.
- 47:14So monergism
- 47:15meaning God
- 47:16alone,
- 47:17and synergism
- 47:18meaning like
- 47:19two parts
- 47:21working together
- 47:22to achieve
- 47:23something,
- 47:24right?
- 47:24So meaning
- 47:24God and
- 47:25man working
- 47:26together to
- 47:27achieve
- 47:27salvation,
- 47:28right?
- 47:30So look at
- 47:30point number
- 47:30one,
- 47:31Luther,
- 47:32man's
- 47:33fall into
- 47:33sin brought
- 47:34spiritual death
- 47:35to man,
- 47:35and he
- 47:35taught the
- 47:36same thing
- 47:36that Augustine
- 47:37taught.
- 47:38Luther was
- 47:39in fact an
- 47:39Augustinian
- 47:40monk before
- 47:41he went
- 47:42to teach
- 47:42theology at
- 47:43Pittenberg.
- 47:45And then
- 47:45Erasmus said
- 47:47man's fall into
- 47:48sin disabled
- 47:50man's spiritual
- 47:51ability,
- 47:51okay?
- 47:52So it
- 47:52impaired him.
- 47:53It didn't
- 47:53wipe him
- 47:54out.
- 47:55So basically
- 47:55sick as
- 47:56opposed to
- 47:56dead.
- 47:56sin.
- 47:58Number two,
- 47:59man's will
- 47:59is in
- 48:00bondage to
- 48:01sin and
- 48:02must be
- 48:02set free
- 48:03by sovereign
- 48:06grace.
- 48:06So it's in
- 48:07bondage to
- 48:07sin,
- 48:08meaning it
- 48:09only can
- 48:09sin,
- 48:10which is what
- 48:10we just read
- 48:11a bunch of
- 48:11scriptures about.
- 48:13He said,
- 48:14no,
- 48:14it's free.
- 48:15Man's will
- 48:16is free to
- 48:16embrace sin
- 48:17or the
- 48:18things of
- 48:18God.
- 48:18It can go
- 48:19either way.
- 48:19then thirdly,
- 48:23salvation is
- 48:23completely the
- 48:24work of God
- 48:25alone.
- 48:26And salvation
- 48:27is achieved by
- 48:27God's work and
- 48:28man's exercising
- 48:29of free will.
- 48:30So it's
- 48:31synergistic.
- 48:33So,
- 48:34Luther really
- 48:36did win the
- 48:37day.
- 48:37He quoted
- 48:37so many
- 48:38scriptures in
- 48:39bondage to
- 48:39the will.
- 48:40Think about
- 48:40what he's
- 48:41saying.
- 48:41He's saying
- 48:41your will
- 48:41is in
- 48:42bondage and
- 48:42needs to
- 48:43be set free
- 48:44by God.
- 48:46But I
- 48:46couldn't resist.
- 48:47Like, if
- 48:48y'all know
- 48:48him, he's
- 48:48very sarcastic.
- 48:50He actually
- 48:50addressed Erasmus
- 48:51at the end
- 48:52of the book,
- 48:53just for fun.
- 48:54He's talking
- 48:55to Erasmus.
- 48:56He goes,
- 48:57it is sad
- 48:59to have to
- 48:59remind a
- 49:00theologian
- 49:00like you
- 49:01of these
- 49:01things.
- 49:02As if you
- 49:03were a
- 49:03pupil instead
- 49:04of one who
- 49:05ought to be
- 49:05teaching others,
- 49:07I owe you
- 49:07a small
- 49:08thanks,
- 49:09for you
- 49:09have made
- 49:09me far
- 49:10more sure
- 49:11of my
- 49:11position by
- 49:12letting me
- 49:13see the
- 49:14case for
- 49:14which free
- 49:15choice put
- 49:16forward with
- 49:17all the
- 49:17energy so
- 49:19distinguished
- 49:19and so
- 49:20powerful a
- 49:20mind,
- 49:21but with
- 49:22no other
- 49:22effect than
- 49:23that to
- 49:23make things
- 49:24worse than
- 49:25before.
- 49:26So he
- 49:27basically is
- 49:27saying,
- 49:28thank you for
- 49:28challenging me
- 49:30on this,
- 49:30because you
- 49:31really,
- 49:32you know,
- 49:33when your
- 49:33belief is
- 49:34challenged,
- 49:34you either
- 49:35retreat on
- 49:35that belief
- 49:36or you dig
- 49:36in deeper.
- 49:37He's like,
- 49:37yeah,
- 49:37I'm sure,
- 49:39because like,
- 49:40this may
- 49:41look stupid
- 49:41pretty much,
- 49:42and Luther's
- 49:44teaching on
- 49:45the bonds
- 49:46of the
- 49:46will carried
- 49:47the day,
- 49:48really.
- 49:50Yep.
- 49:51So the
- 49:51next,
- 49:52any questions?
- 49:53One last
- 49:53controversy
- 49:54here.
- 49:57I'll hold
- 49:57off.
- 49:59All right,
- 50:00so the
- 50:00next one,
- 50:02the one a
- 50:02lot of people
- 50:03know about,
- 50:03was the
- 50:05Calvinist
- 50:05Arminian
- 50:06controversy,
- 50:081618.
- 50:10What's the
- 50:11connection
- 50:11between Calvin
- 50:12and the
- 50:12year 1618?
- 50:13Anybody?
- 50:17Oh,
- 50:17come on.
- 50:18Think
- 50:18timeline.
- 50:20When did
- 50:20Calvin live?
- 50:231618?
- 50:26He did.
- 50:29He was
- 50:29dead a long
- 50:30time ago.
- 50:32So,
- 50:32so why is
- 50:33it called
- 50:34that?
- 50:36Shoot,
- 50:36he died in
- 50:37the 1500s.
- 50:39I don't
- 50:39remember the
- 50:39exact date.
- 50:41Like,
- 50:41mid to
- 50:41late 1500s.
- 50:43So,
- 50:44so,
- 50:45but the
- 50:45people that
- 50:46he taught,
- 50:47the people
- 50:47he had
- 50:47influence on,
- 50:49were the
- 50:49people who
- 50:50responded to
- 50:50Arminius.
- 50:51Does that
- 50:51make sense?
- 50:52So,
- 50:52that's why
- 50:53it's called
- 50:53that.
- 50:54So,
- 50:54Calvin didn't
- 50:55like sit
- 50:55down one
- 50:55day and
- 50:56like,
- 50:56you know
- 50:56what,
- 50:56I'm going
- 50:56to write
- 50:57up my
- 50:58theology
- 50:58in five
- 50:58points.
- 50:59So,
- 50:59he didn't
- 50:59actually
- 51:00work that
- 51:00way.
- 51:01This was a
- 51:02response to,
- 51:03what Arminius
- 51:04thought.
- 51:05So,
- 51:05Arminius
- 51:05wrote these
- 51:08points to
- 51:12basically state
- 51:13this
- 51:13surferiology,
- 51:14what he
- 51:14believed the
- 51:14scripture said,
- 51:16and he put it
- 51:16forward,
- 51:17and they took
- 51:17those scriptures
- 51:18at the
- 51:19Senate of
- 51:19Dort,
- 51:20D-O-R-T,
- 51:21if I don't know
- 51:21the funny name,
- 51:22and they
- 51:22examined them,
- 51:23like the
- 51:23Dutch
- 51:24church examined
- 51:25these scriptures,
- 51:27the Dutch
- 51:27Reformed
- 51:28church at that
- 51:28time.
- 51:29Oh,
- 51:29they examined
- 51:30his writings,
- 51:30excuse me,
- 51:32then they
- 51:32responded by
- 51:33saying,
- 51:33no,
- 51:33not okay,
- 51:35and here's
- 51:35where they
- 51:37kind of
- 51:37landed.
- 51:39So,
- 51:41let's just
- 51:43go from
- 51:43right to
- 51:44left this
- 51:44time,
- 51:44but basically
- 51:45Arminius was
- 51:46taking up
- 51:46the same
- 51:47position that
- 51:48Erasmus,
- 51:49man is sick,
- 51:51but his
- 51:52will is still
- 51:53somewhat free,
- 51:54and has some
- 51:55ability to
- 51:56choose God,
- 51:56as where they
- 51:58said no,
- 51:58like man's
- 51:59will is
- 51:59completely
- 52:00enslaved to
- 52:01sin,
- 52:01completely
- 52:01and totally
- 52:03depraved.
- 52:05Alright,
- 52:05conditional
- 52:05election.
- 52:07So,
- 52:08no one wants
- 52:08to fight the
- 52:09idea that
- 52:10God chose,
- 52:11right?
- 52:11We see that
- 52:11all in the
- 52:12Bible.
- 52:13So,
- 52:13people want
- 52:14to say,
- 52:15then,
- 52:16what was
- 52:16the condition
- 52:17in which God
- 52:19chose or
- 52:19didn't choose?
- 52:21And,
- 52:21we did the
- 52:22whole sermon
- 52:23on that
- 52:23a while back,
- 52:26two sermons
- 52:26on it,
- 52:27but,
- 52:28what he
- 52:30would say
- 52:30is that
- 52:32God used
- 52:33his foresight.
- 52:35They looked
- 52:35down in
- 52:36time and
- 52:38said,
- 52:38hey,
- 52:38you know
- 52:38what?
- 52:40That Ty
- 52:41Burnett,
- 52:41he's a
- 52:42silly boy,
- 52:42and he's
- 52:42going to
- 52:43do some
- 52:43bad things,
- 52:44but you
- 52:44know what?
- 52:44One day,
- 52:45he's going
- 52:45to place
- 52:45faith in
- 52:46me,
- 52:47so therefore,
- 52:48I'm going
- 52:48to choose
- 52:48him.
- 52:50So,
- 52:50that was
- 52:50the condition.
- 52:51Like,
- 52:51faith was
- 52:52the condition
- 52:52by which God
- 52:54chose,
- 52:55right?
- 52:55That's what
- 52:55they're going
- 52:56to say.
- 52:56Like,
- 52:56he,
- 52:56they'll
- 52:58want to
- 52:59try to
- 52:59use the
- 52:59word foreknowledge.
- 53:00That word
- 53:00has nothing
- 53:01to do,
- 53:01like,
- 53:02you know,
- 53:03this ability
- 53:03to,
- 53:04it's not
- 53:04foresight,
- 53:05it actually
- 53:05has to do
- 53:06with,
- 53:06like,
- 53:06relational
- 53:06knowledge,
- 53:07like,
- 53:07God knew
- 53:08who those
- 53:08people were,
- 53:09who he
- 53:10was going
- 53:11to elect
- 53:11and choose.
- 53:12So,
- 53:13that was
- 53:13the condition,
- 53:14that condition
- 53:14was faith,
- 53:15but what
- 53:15we'll look
- 53:15at in a
- 53:16few weeks
- 53:17is that
- 53:17faith itself
- 53:18is a gift
- 53:19from God.
- 53:20and,
- 53:21actually,
- 53:23what we
- 53:23taught on
- 53:23is actually
- 53:24election is
- 53:25unconditional.
- 53:26We read that
- 53:26right in
- 53:26Romans 9,
- 53:27like,
- 53:27that his
- 53:27purpose,
- 53:29his election
- 53:29might stand.
- 53:33Universal
- 53:33atonement,
- 53:35Jesus died
- 53:37on the cross
- 53:38for every
- 53:39single individual
- 53:40ever to walk
- 53:41the earth,
- 53:42period.
- 53:43He died
- 53:43for you,
- 53:44he died
- 53:44for Mother
- 53:44Teresa,
- 53:45he died
- 53:45for Hitler,
- 53:46he died
- 53:46for Stalin,
- 53:47he died
- 53:47for your
- 53:47best friend,
- 53:49he died
- 53:49for them all.
- 53:50We would
- 53:52say no.
- 53:54He died
- 53:55for the
- 53:56elect,
- 53:57he died
- 53:57for his
- 53:58people,
- 53:58he died
- 53:59for the
- 53:59ones that
- 53:59the Father
- 54:01shows,
- 54:02right?
- 54:03So,
- 54:03it's a
- 54:04limited
- 54:05atonement.
- 54:08I think,
- 54:10notice I said
- 54:10tulip,
- 54:11T-U-L-I-P,
- 54:14you know,
- 54:16limited
- 54:16atonements
- 54:17can be a
- 54:17bad phrase,
- 54:18but we'll
- 54:18just say
- 54:19this,
- 54:19like,
- 54:19Christ's
- 54:20atonement
- 54:20was limited
- 54:21in one
- 54:22way or
- 54:24another.
- 54:25If you
- 54:26believe that
- 54:26it was
- 54:27meant to
- 54:27save everybody,
- 54:28then it's
- 54:28limited in
- 54:29its power,
- 54:29because it's
- 54:30not going to
- 54:30save everybody,
- 54:31and we know
- 54:31that.
- 54:31Scripture
- 54:32says that,
- 54:32and we see
- 54:33it all
- 54:33around us.
- 54:34So it's
- 54:35limited in
- 54:35its power,
- 54:36if it's
- 54:36not going to
- 54:37save everybody,
- 54:38or it's
- 54:39limited in
- 54:40its extension.
- 54:42That's what I
- 54:42believe.
- 54:43That's what I
- 54:43think Scripture
- 54:44teaches,
- 54:44meaning that
- 54:45it saved
- 54:46exactly who
- 54:47it was meant
- 54:47to save,
- 54:48Christ bought
- 54:50us with
- 54:50His blood.
- 54:52That blood
- 54:53is precious,
- 54:53not just
- 54:54like wasted
- 54:54and thrown
- 54:55around on
- 54:55everybody,
- 54:56right?
- 54:57He gets
- 54:57what He
- 54:58died for.
- 54:59He gets
- 55:00His people.
- 55:00He gets
- 55:01the reward
- 55:01of His
- 55:02suffering.
- 55:04Yep.
- 55:05I had a big
- 55:06problem with
- 55:07that one back
- 55:07in the day.
- 55:08I was like,
- 55:08no.
- 55:09two.
- 55:10And there
- 55:11are a few
- 55:11Scriptures that
- 55:12may seem to
- 55:13say contrary,
- 55:14but like using
- 55:15the simple
- 55:15hermeneutic of
- 55:16let me use
- 55:17the 50 to
- 55:19understand the
- 55:19two or three,
- 55:20not the other
- 55:20way around,
- 55:21and that kind
- 55:22of worked
- 55:22for me.
- 55:23I understood
- 55:24it at that
- 55:24point.
- 55:25Then we get
- 55:27into the work
- 55:28of the Spirit.
- 55:30Arminius
- 55:30taught that
- 55:31when the
- 55:32Holy Spirit
- 55:33calls,
- 55:33you hear the
- 55:34Gospel,
- 55:34right?
- 55:35You hear the
- 55:35Holy Spirit
- 55:35pulling on you,
- 55:36that man
- 55:38has the
- 55:39free will
- 55:39to reject
- 55:41it or
- 55:41receive it
- 55:42on his own.
- 55:44Like to
- 55:44reject it or
- 55:45deceive it
- 55:45on his own.
- 55:48As where
- 55:49the Calvinists,
- 55:51I'd say,
- 55:52I guess taught,
- 55:53no,
- 55:54God's grace
- 55:54is irresistible.
- 55:55He makes it
- 55:56irresistible to
- 55:57the elect.
- 55:58And He makes
- 55:59it irresistible
- 55:59to those
- 56:00that the
- 56:00Father gave
- 56:01Him.
- 56:02And He
- 56:02overcomes
- 56:03all resistance.
- 56:04real quick.
- 56:08How many of
- 56:09you know
- 56:09the Scripture
- 56:10in Acts,
- 56:10you stiff-necked
- 56:11people always
- 56:13rejecting the
- 56:14grace of God?
- 56:16Well,
- 56:16that verse.
- 56:17That's a quote
- 56:17from the Old
- 56:17Testament,
- 56:18I think.
- 56:19Yeah.
- 56:20So there it
- 56:20is,
- 56:20right?
- 56:21We can
- 56:21reject God's
- 56:22grace right
- 56:22there in that
- 56:23verse.
- 56:25Well,
- 56:26it might be
- 56:27said of me
- 56:28at one point,
- 56:29I rejected
- 56:29the grace of
- 56:30God too,
- 56:31right?
- 56:31And you
- 56:31too.
- 56:33But there
- 56:33was a moment
- 56:33where God
- 56:34said,
- 56:34enough.
- 56:35And He
- 56:36overcame
- 56:37that resistance
- 56:38in your
- 56:39will.
- 56:40And He
- 56:40regenerated
- 56:41your heart.
- 56:42And He
- 56:42was hunting
- 56:42you down
- 56:43day and
- 56:43night.
- 56:44And that's
- 56:44what you
- 56:45see in
- 56:45the Scripture,
- 56:46right?
- 56:46You don't
- 56:46see God
- 56:47being like,
- 56:47come on
- 56:48guys,
- 56:48please follow
- 56:49me,
- 56:49somebody.
- 56:50You see
- 56:51Him hunting
- 56:51down people.
- 56:52He's like,
- 56:53that guy,
- 56:54that guy.
- 56:55Paul,
- 56:56Saul of
- 56:56Tarsus,
- 56:57you're mine.
- 56:58You don't
- 56:58have a choice
- 56:58in the matter.
- 57:00Right?
- 57:00That's what
- 57:00you see.
- 57:02You don't
- 57:02see God
- 57:02being a lonely
- 57:03old man,
- 57:03calling people,
- 57:04to himself,
- 57:05just hoping
- 57:05somebody will
- 57:06take up the
- 57:07Gospel.
- 57:09Alright?
- 57:09So then,
- 57:11Arminius
- 57:11consistently,
- 57:12okay,
- 57:12and if I
- 57:13think
- 57:13philosophically,
- 57:14logically,
- 57:16he thought,
- 57:16oh,
- 57:17okay,
- 57:17if man's
- 57:18free will
- 57:18is that
- 57:20God comes
- 57:22and he
- 57:22initiates,
- 57:23the man
- 57:23responds
- 57:24with his
- 57:24free will.
- 57:25And God
- 57:26is not
- 57:26going to
- 57:26take that
- 57:27faculty away.
- 57:28Free will
- 57:28is so
- 57:28valuable to
- 57:29God,
- 57:29right?
- 57:31Then he
- 57:32consistently
- 57:32taught that
- 57:34that same
- 57:34free will
- 57:35can lead
- 57:35you to
- 57:35damnation.
- 57:37You can
- 57:37walk away
- 57:38from the
- 57:38grace of
- 57:39God.
- 57:39You can
- 57:39lose
- 57:40your
- 57:41salvation.
- 57:42That's
- 57:42pretty scary.
- 57:44But he's
- 57:44consistent.
- 57:45He's being
- 57:46consistent.
- 57:46Like,
- 57:46yep,
- 57:47you can
- 57:47choose it,
- 57:48and you
- 57:48can
- 57:48unchoose it.
- 57:49You can
- 57:49come to
- 57:50grace,
- 57:51and you
- 57:51can fall
- 57:51away from
- 57:52grace.
- 57:54So today,
- 57:55you know,
- 57:57Methodists,
- 57:58Wesleyans,
- 57:58they consistently
- 57:59believe that.
- 58:01That's true.
- 58:01It's consistent.
- 58:02But what we
- 58:04have today is
- 58:05a new theology
- 58:05that nobody
- 58:06would agree
- 58:06with in the
- 58:07past.
- 58:07It's like,
- 58:07yeah,
- 58:08you initiate
- 58:08it,
- 58:09but then God
- 58:10finishes it
- 58:12for you,
- 58:12right?
- 58:13He's not
- 58:13going to
- 58:13let you
- 58:14go no
- 58:15matter
- 58:15what you
- 58:15do.
- 58:16That's
- 58:16not what
- 58:17is
- 58:17consistent.
- 58:18Both
- 58:18Wesley,
- 58:20Arminius,
- 58:20and Calvin
- 58:21would disagree
- 58:22with that.
- 58:23So God's
- 58:24not going to
- 58:24take that
- 58:25away from
- 58:25you if
- 58:25that's
- 58:25what's
- 58:26so valuable.
- 58:26But,
- 58:27if it
- 58:28started with
- 58:28God,
- 58:29it's going
- 58:29to finish
- 58:30with God.
- 58:30See that?
- 58:32Hey,
- 58:32that sounds
- 58:32like a
- 58:32Bible verse.
- 58:36Yep.
- 58:37Yep,
- 58:37author and
- 58:38finisher of
- 58:38faith,
- 58:38right?
- 58:39And,
- 58:40and another
- 58:41one.
- 58:43Yep.
- 58:45He started
- 58:45it,
- 58:46he finishes
- 58:47it.
- 58:48And man,
- 58:48I'm so
- 58:49glad for
- 58:49that one.
- 58:50Because I
- 58:50think I'd
- 58:51be unsaved
- 58:52every day.
- 58:53And that's
- 58:54what some
- 58:54traditions teach.
- 58:55That's what
- 58:55Rome teaches.
- 58:56That's what,
- 58:57in short,
- 58:59Methodists
- 58:59teach.
- 59:00And again,
- 59:01that's what
- 59:01Rome taught.
- 59:02I'm not
- 59:02trying to go
- 59:03along with
- 59:04that.
- 59:04But like,
- 59:04no,
- 59:04no,
- 59:04no.
- 59:05God keeps
- 59:06you.
- 59:06Like,
- 59:07He saved
- 59:07you.
- 59:08He shows
- 59:10you before
- 59:10the foundation
- 59:11of the world.
- 59:13His son
- 59:13died and
- 59:14shed his
- 59:15blood to
- 59:16cover your
- 59:16sin and give
- 59:17you his
- 59:17righteousness.
- 59:19And the
- 59:19Holy Spirit
- 59:19applies that
- 59:20work to
- 59:21you at
- 59:22the moment,
- 59:23right,
- 59:23that you're
- 59:24born again.
- 59:25And then by
- 59:25God's Spirit,
- 59:26He keeps you
- 59:27until the end,
- 59:28until you
- 59:28breathe your
- 59:28last.
- 59:29Like,
- 59:29you may
- 59:29struggle,
- 59:30you may,
- 59:31your faith
- 59:31may go like
- 59:31this a little
- 59:32bit,
- 59:32you know.
- 59:33Hopefully it's
- 59:34kind of going
- 59:34more like
- 59:35this,
- 59:35but we
- 59:37were persevered
- 59:38until the end
- 59:39and we are
- 59:39saved.
- 59:41All right?
- 59:43All my
- 59:44Irish friends
- 59:44sent me this
- 59:45about a few
- 59:46years ago.
- 59:47the five-point
- 59:48baconists,
- 59:50you don't like
- 59:50Calvinism.
- 59:51Bad people,
- 59:53already elected,
- 59:55completely atoned
- 59:56for,
- 59:57overwhelmingly
- 59:58called,
- 59:59never falling
- 59:59away.
- 1:00:00Yeah.
- 1:00:03And Spurgeon
- 1:00:05said,
- 1:00:08I have my
- 1:00:11own private
- 1:00:11opinion that
- 1:00:12there is no
- 1:00:13such thing as
- 1:00:14preaching Christ
- 1:00:15and Him
- 1:00:16crucified unless
- 1:00:17we preach
- 1:00:17what nowadays
- 1:00:19is called
- 1:00:19Calvinism.
- 1:00:21It has a
- 1:00:21nickname to
- 1:00:22call it
- 1:00:23Calvinism.
- 1:00:24Calvinism is
- 1:00:25the gospel
- 1:00:26and nothing
- 1:00:26else.
- 1:00:28So,
- 1:00:30Nathan was
- 1:00:31at
- 1:00:32Turret
- 1:00:33McConnell.
- 1:00:34I'm not going
- 1:00:34to know that.
- 1:00:35He worked at
- 1:00:35Turret
- 1:00:35McConnell for a
- 1:00:36while.
- 1:00:37They are not
- 1:00:37Calvinists there
- 1:00:38at all.
- 1:00:39He had a lot
- 1:00:40of stuff all the
- 1:00:41time.
- 1:00:41He said,
- 1:00:41okay,
- 1:00:42that's okay.
- 1:00:42Make fun of
- 1:00:43me.
- 1:00:44And I
- 1:00:44heard two
- 1:00:45professors
- 1:00:45laughing,
- 1:00:47kind of,
- 1:00:47ha,
- 1:00:48ha,
- 1:00:48ha.
- 1:00:48Isn't this
- 1:00:49so stupid
- 1:00:49that so many
- 1:00:50people think
- 1:00:50that Spurgeon
- 1:00:51was a
- 1:00:51Calvinist?
- 1:00:52And he
- 1:00:52wanted to
- 1:00:52be like,
- 1:00:53no,
- 1:00:54he did.
- 1:00:54He had a
- 1:00:54book call.
- 1:00:56Yes.
- 1:00:58Calvinism is
- 1:00:59the gospel.
- 1:01:00It was the
- 1:01:00name of the
- 1:01:00book that he
- 1:01:00wrote.
- 1:01:01So,
- 1:01:02yeah,
- 1:01:03just really
- 1:01:04funny.
- 1:01:05But,
- 1:01:05this is what
- 1:01:06we can talk
- 1:01:07about for a
- 1:01:08minute.
- 1:01:08But how
- 1:01:09has the
- 1:01:09depth and
- 1:01:10severity of our
- 1:01:11sin magnify
- 1:01:12the work
- 1:01:12of Christ
- 1:01:15in the
- 1:01:15gospel?
- 1:01:17What do
- 1:01:18you think?
- 1:01:20That's
- 1:01:21critical.
- 1:01:21This is why
- 1:01:22this is
- 1:01:22applicable.
- 1:01:24This isn't
- 1:01:24just theory.
- 1:01:27Anybody?
- 1:01:33Does the
- 1:01:34question make
- 1:01:34sense?
- 1:01:34I have a
- 1:01:35problem writing
- 1:01:35questions.
- 1:01:36People don't
- 1:01:36understand.
- 1:01:36I have to
- 1:01:37reword it.
- 1:01:41I think
- 1:01:43the
- 1:01:44parable.
- 1:01:46People
- 1:01:47will
- 1:01:48forget it.
- 1:01:49Sin was
- 1:01:49greater.
- 1:01:50Yeah.
- 1:01:52Yep.
- 1:01:52I think
- 1:01:57like the
- 1:01:58original
- 1:01:59intent in
- 1:02:00the
- 1:02:00garden.
- 1:02:01Ty's
- 1:02:02reference of
- 1:02:02this morning
- 1:02:03back in
- 1:02:04chapter 2,
- 1:02:06the design
- 1:02:07was that the
- 1:02:08glory of the
- 1:02:08Lord would be
- 1:02:09over the
- 1:02:11earth as the
- 1:02:12waters cover the
- 1:02:13sea.
- 1:02:14And like,
- 1:02:15I just think
- 1:02:16of how if
- 1:02:17that is God's
- 1:02:18greatest
- 1:02:19pursuit in
- 1:02:21this world,
- 1:02:22and we've
- 1:02:23broken it,
- 1:02:25we've
- 1:02:26rejected that
- 1:02:27plan,
- 1:02:28then like
- 1:02:29any credit
- 1:02:30to restore
- 1:02:31and to make
- 1:02:32things fulfill
- 1:02:34their purpose,
- 1:02:36and to credit
- 1:02:38man with any
- 1:02:39of it,
- 1:02:39when the only
- 1:02:39thing we have
- 1:02:40credit for is
- 1:02:41the disruption
- 1:02:43and the
- 1:02:44rejection of
- 1:02:44the Lord
- 1:02:45is a
- 1:02:46beautiful
- 1:02:46man.
- 1:02:47I think
- 1:02:48it's
- 1:02:50mind-boggling
- 1:02:51to think
- 1:02:55that the
- 1:02:55restoration of
- 1:02:56God's purpose
- 1:02:57could be
- 1:02:58credited to
- 1:02:58ourselves.
- 1:03:01I think it
- 1:03:02just gives a
- 1:03:02lot of hope
- 1:03:03that if God's
- 1:03:04purpose is to
- 1:03:04glorify Himself,
- 1:03:05He will do
- 1:03:07it through
- 1:03:08saving sinners,
- 1:03:10and not
- 1:03:10because of us,
- 1:03:12but despite
- 1:03:13us.
- 1:03:14Yes,
- 1:03:14despite us.
- 1:03:16Yep.
- 1:03:17For me,
- 1:03:19kind of going
- 1:03:19back to what
- 1:03:20Jeff said,
- 1:03:20I hear about
- 1:03:21the tendencies
- 1:03:22that we
- 1:03:23have to not
- 1:03:24want to be
- 1:03:25in the Word
- 1:03:25or not
- 1:03:26seek the Word,
- 1:03:27I think for
- 1:03:28me a lot
- 1:03:29of times that
- 1:03:30comes from
- 1:03:32the
- 1:03:32place in
- 1:03:34seeing my
- 1:03:38sin for
- 1:03:38what it is,
- 1:03:39and seeing
- 1:03:42it for
- 1:03:43how depraved
- 1:03:45that it
- 1:03:46really is,
- 1:03:46how much
- 1:03:48it screams
- 1:03:51in the
- 1:03:52face of
- 1:03:52God.
- 1:03:53The
- 1:03:53contrary to
- 1:03:54me,
- 1:03:55if I'm not
- 1:03:56seeing that
- 1:03:57and walking
- 1:03:58in that
- 1:03:59truth,
- 1:04:00then I
- 1:04:01don't
- 1:04:01put the
- 1:04:04value on
- 1:04:04what Christ
- 1:04:05is on,
- 1:04:06and continue
- 1:04:07just seeking
- 1:04:08for it,
- 1:04:09worshiping
- 1:04:10that.
- 1:04:10for us
- 1:04:19to
- 1:04:19understand
- 1:04:19this,
- 1:04:20we
- 1:04:20have all
- 1:04:22rebelled
- 1:04:22against God,
- 1:04:23and we've
- 1:04:25done so
- 1:04:26directly and
- 1:04:26indirectly.
- 1:04:27You know what I mean?
- 1:04:28of that.
- 1:04:28Like some
- 1:04:28people say,
- 1:04:30you know what
- 1:04:30God,
- 1:04:30I know you're
- 1:04:31there and I
- 1:04:31don't care.
- 1:04:32I want to give you
- 1:04:32the birds,
- 1:04:33I'm going to do
- 1:04:33what I want to do.
- 1:04:34I'm going to live
- 1:04:34my life and be
- 1:04:37the captain of my
- 1:04:38own destiny.
- 1:04:39And you quote the
- 1:04:39poem, right?
- 1:04:41So some people do
- 1:04:42that, but I
- 1:04:44don't say most
- 1:04:45people live in
- 1:04:46rebelling to
- 1:04:46God in an
- 1:04:47indirect way,
- 1:04:48meaning that they
- 1:04:48don't think about
- 1:04:49Him.
- 1:04:50They treat Him
- 1:04:50as if He's not
- 1:04:51there, which is
- 1:04:53to say that God
- 1:04:54is small, that He's
- 1:04:55insignificant, that
- 1:04:56He's not important,
- 1:04:57and He doesn't
- 1:04:57have the right to
- 1:04:58rule over your
- 1:04:58life.
- 1:04:59And so no matter
- 1:05:00what we do, we
- 1:05:01then rebel
- 1:05:02towards God.
- 1:05:04But when I
- 1:05:05asked that question
- 1:05:06about how is
- 1:05:08understanding our
- 1:05:09sin, the
- 1:05:09greatness of our
- 1:05:10sin, magnify the
- 1:05:12work of Christ, I
- 1:05:13think about what
- 1:05:13John Newton said.
- 1:05:15He said,
- 1:05:16and in his old
- 1:05:17age, my memory
- 1:05:18is nearly gone,
- 1:05:19but I remember
- 1:05:19two things.
- 1:05:20I'm a great
- 1:05:21sinner in Christ,
- 1:05:23and that Christ
- 1:05:23is a great Savior.
- 1:05:26So the greater
- 1:05:27our sin, the
- 1:05:27greater the Savior.
- 1:05:28That's kind of
- 1:05:29the point of
- 1:05:29this.
- 1:05:30So if Pelagius
- 1:05:31was right, Christ
- 1:05:33wasn't that great
- 1:05:33of a Savior.
- 1:05:35If Erasmus was
- 1:05:37right, Christ
- 1:05:38wasn't that great
- 1:05:39of a Savior
- 1:05:39either.
- 1:05:39He was like,
- 1:05:40yeah, a little
- 1:05:41bit, not really.
- 1:05:42But if we are
- 1:05:43really fallen, like
- 1:05:44we just read in
- 1:05:45the Scripture,
- 1:05:45then man, he
- 1:05:46is like an
- 1:05:47incredible Savior
- 1:05:48then.
- 1:05:49Like, we have
- 1:05:50to have one
- 1:05:50because our
- 1:05:51condition is that
- 1:05:52bad.
- 1:05:53We have to have
- 1:05:53somebody that
- 1:05:54great to save
- 1:05:55us.
- 1:05:56This is what was
- 1:05:57written on his
- 1:05:58tombstone.
- 1:06:01John Newton,
- 1:06:02once an infidel
- 1:06:04and libertine,
- 1:06:06a servant of
- 1:06:06slaves in Africa,
- 1:06:08was by the rich
- 1:06:09mercy of our
- 1:06:10Lord and Savior
- 1:06:11Jesus Christ
- 1:06:12preserved,
- 1:06:12restored,
- 1:06:13pardoned,
- 1:06:13and appointed
- 1:06:15to preach
- 1:06:15the faith
- 1:06:16that he had
- 1:06:16long labored
- 1:06:17to destroy.
- 1:06:19Yeah, I feel
- 1:06:21that, you know,
- 1:06:22very much so.
- 1:06:24But we'll have
- 1:06:26some close by
- 1:06:27Newton in the
- 1:06:27future here.