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Credlin | 3 April · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Kranblad live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, welcome to show. What a hectic day today,
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Speaker 2: goodness made. Don't know where to start. Here's what's coming
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Speaker 2: up the show tonight. Plenty of action out of the
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Speaker 2: hustings today. More obnoxious climate protesters this time though taggeting
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister and Anthony Albanize's later slip up. Literally,
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Speaker 2: I'll show you that in a moment. Migration it's got
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Speaker 2: to be a big focus.
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Speaker 3: On the campaign.
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Speaker 2: We'll get into that as well, not just easing housing
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Speaker 2: price pressure but also socio coesion, but just center price.
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Speaker 2: Now she's a weapon for the Coalition. I can't be
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Speaker 2: alone in wanting to see more of her out on
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Speaker 2: the national stage to give Conservatives extra firepower.
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Speaker 3: So where is she last?
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Speaker 2: The regional community is bearing the brunt of labors failed
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Speaker 2: climate and energy modeling. They're not going down without a fight.
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Speaker 2: Tonight I'll show you exclusive footage from a fight up
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Speaker 2: town hall meeting and we'll be joined by the MP
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Speaker 2: who organized it. And we know now while we're in
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Speaker 2: for with Donald Trump's later as tariffs, it's dominated today's
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Speaker 2: campaign with Peter Darton again bringing into question the PM's.
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Speaker 4: Strength and I don't resolve from that.
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Speaker 5: I just don't think the Prime Minister has the strength
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Speaker 5: or the ability to stand up to a situation that
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Speaker 5: is unacceptable to us.
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Speaker 4: This is a bad day for our country, but first.
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Speaker 2: Day seven of the election campaign, getting through almost our
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Speaker 2: first full week, and amidstore the noise and static, just
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Speaker 2: remember this, there is still a cost of leaving crisis.
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Speaker 2: It's still Anthony Albanese's fault because his government has made it.
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Speaker 3: Worse and will make it worse.
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Speaker 2: And instead of seventy cents a day in fifteen months
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Speaker 2: time from labor, Peter Darton is going to take fourteen
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Speaker 2: dollars off the cost of filling up your car from
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Speaker 2: day one now. Inevitably, the election took the back seat
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Speaker 2: today to the US tariff announcement. We may up like
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Speaker 2: it as Australians. If you're an econoe purists, you'll argue
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Speaker 2: it takes free trade back a decade or more. But
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Speaker 2: the American people voted for Trump to do this. That's
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Speaker 2: the reality, and doing what he promised is why he'll
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Speaker 2: be rewarded at home now. If you listen to him
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Speaker 2: during the campaign in any event, none of this can
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Speaker 2: come as a surprise.
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Speaker 6: If I'm going to be president of this country, I'm
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Speaker 6: going to put a one hundred two hundred two thousand
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Speaker 6: percent tariff.
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Speaker 7: I'm going to immediately impose a twenty five percent tariff
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Speaker 7: on everything they send in to the United States of America.
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Speaker 2: Today, Trump said he loved Australia. Perhaps that's why our
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Speaker 2: tariff hit is just ten percent, the lowest of any
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Speaker 2: of the new tariffs.
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Speaker 8: Australia bands and they're wonderful people and wonderful everything, but
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Speaker 8: they ban American beef. Yet we imported three billion dollars
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Speaker 8: of Australian beef them just last year alone. They won't
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Speaker 8: take any of our beef.
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Speaker 3: And he's right there.
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Speaker 2: Despite the USFDA, our trade deal that the Howard government
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Speaker 2: finalized in two thousand and four, which essentially abolished tariffs,
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Speaker 2: we do ban US beef inports into Australia.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: We do it on biosecurity grounds, mainly our worries about
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Speaker 2: mad cow disease. Their experts say, now all these years on,
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Speaker 2: that's largely unfounded. Our experts or they disagree. Now, as
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Speaker 2: for the president's chart indicating that he'll impose a ten
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Speaker 2: percent tariff on American goods on Australian goods. That we
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Speaker 2: sorry that we impose ten percent tariff on American goods.
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Speaker 2: That's not accurate. The President of his advisors seem to
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Speaker 2: think that our ten percent GST is the equivalent of
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Speaker 2: a tariff, but that's not true because our GST applies
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Speaker 2: to everything sold in Australia, not just US goods.
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Speaker 3: Coming into the country. Now.
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Speaker 2: In announcing the new tariffs ten percent on the UK
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Speaker 2: as well twenty percent on the EU, twenty six on India,
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Speaker 2: thirty four percent on China, the President said he was
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Speaker 2: still prepared to negotiate down on the basis of reciprocity.
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Speaker 6: Common sense, reciprocal tariffs again, reciprocal, back and forth, back
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Speaker 6: and forth. Likewise, to all of the foreign presidents, prime ministers, kings, queens,
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Speaker 6: ambassadors and everyone else who will soon be calling to
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Speaker 6: ask for exemptions from these tariffs, they say, terminate your
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Speaker 6: own tariffs, drop your barriers.
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Speaker 2: So this is where our prime minister's non existent relationship
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Speaker 2: with Trump's quite the obstacle, because the US remains our
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Speaker 2: most important ally and security partner by far, and what
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Speaker 2: anyone thinks of the President. It's not a relationship we
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Speaker 2: can afford to weaken, let alone jeopardize. From Anthony Albanezi
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Speaker 2: and Kevin right all the way down to Pennywong and others,
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Speaker 2: labor figures must now deeply regret that ill, disciplined and
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Speaker 2: indulgent political swipes at Donald Trump.
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Speaker 4: The United States in the last.
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Speaker 9: Four years has been run by a village idiot.
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Speaker 10: We have an alliance with the US, We're going to
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Speaker 10: deal with him, But that doesn't mean that you're uncritical
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Speaker 10: about it.
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Speaker 2: He scared out of me, village idiot, Kevin, you won
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Speaker 2: a way you can't get in the door, and the
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Speaker 2: PM refuses to try and even mend the fences here
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Speaker 2: via a trip in person to the White House. Now,
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Speaker 2: to me, that's diplomacy one oh one. But because Trump's
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Speaker 2: so unpredictable, labor handlers are always going to be scared
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Speaker 2: about any meeting between Trump and alban Easy that they
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Speaker 2: couldn't control in front of the cameras. That's why he
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Speaker 2: hasn't gone. So it's no wonder Anthony Albanezi still has
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Speaker 2: not been able to get that phone call that the
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Speaker 2: president with the President that he's asked for if he'd
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Speaker 2: had that phone call, we might have been able to
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Speaker 2: put our side for our exporters directly to the President
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Speaker 2: Anthony Albanez. He says he's got the strength stand up
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Speaker 2: for Australia. But notice how he's happy to be critical
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Speaker 2: of America, our friend, but never China. To twenty billion
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Speaker 2: dollars in an export hit from the Chinese. I've never
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Speaker 2: heard him criticize that once, and he allows all those
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Speaker 2: Chinese leaders doesn't need to keep patronizing him. I'll get
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Speaker 2: back into those tariffs little later in the show with
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Speaker 2: Ross Greenwood. All right, let's get out onto the campaign
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Speaker 2: trail that's been busy right across the country. Joining me
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Speaker 2: now from the Labor of Us our senior political reporter
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Speaker 2: Trudy Macintosh.
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Speaker 3: Trudy the PM.
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Speaker 2: As we know, he started his day in the Victorian
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Speaker 2: seat of Wills. This is Inner City in Melbourne. There's
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Speaker 2: a labor in comment there facing fierce attack from the Greens.
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Speaker 2: He's also the Greens opponent is also being backed in
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Speaker 2: by this new political Muslim movement. He left Victoria has
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Speaker 2: gone then up to those new South Wales Hunter Valley
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Speaker 2: seats of Patterson and the seat of Hunters, So right
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Speaker 2: in the middle of coal country. You've had one hectic
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Speaker 2: day by the look of it.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, well, I'm getting well acquainted, Peter with the coaches
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Speaker 11: of Australia really as we make a Whistlestop mystery tour
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Speaker 11: around the country. We're currently stuck in traffic in Sydney
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Speaker 11: at that time of day as we head towards the city.
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Speaker 11: It's been a busy day and an unusual one.
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Speaker 3: I'd have to say.
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Speaker 11: In covering campaigns, Peter felt more like, you know what
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Speaker 11: we'd normally see at Parliament House, the Prime Minister addressing
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Speaker 11: that serious issue of the tariffs. It then comes all
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Speaker 11: the way to the Hunter and we saw again another
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Speaker 11: protests are able to get there. We're pretty close to him.
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Speaker 3: I'd have to say.
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Speaker 11: Inside that hospital in Maitland, the PM making the points
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Speaker 11: as a climate protest, that group rising tide that they
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Speaker 11: shouldn't be shouting inside hospitals.
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Speaker 3: Have a look at what played out for cast companies.
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Speaker 12: It's on the line I want to say.
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Speaker 3: Is that crazy.
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Speaker 5: Crisis is the greatest hell threat the huture of Australia.
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Speaker 2: Honestly true, I think there's idiots are just driving more
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Speaker 2: of that vote over to the Liberal Party of the
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Speaker 2: National Party when they see that sort of carry on.
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Speaker 2: I've got to ask you what you thought it felt
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Speaker 2: like on the ground in Wills. Because Peter Khalil, the
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Speaker 2: Labor guy in that seat, there's a serious push on
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Speaker 2: by the Greens.
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Speaker 3: I reckon they're going to get that seat.
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Speaker 11: What did you think, Well, Peter, a little bit of
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Speaker 11: behind the scenes. Actually at the main press pack was
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Speaker 11: not taken with the Prime Minister to Wills. We were
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Speaker 11: at the press conference and then taken separately to the airport.
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Speaker 11: Just a smaller contingent just with cameras and a few
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Speaker 11: pool journals would take them to that event. But Will's,
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Speaker 11: seriously is a seat in play. The Prime Minister is
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Speaker 11: not going there by accident. A big target from the Greens.
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Speaker 11: Adam Band the leader targeting that seat. Peter Khalil I
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Speaker 11: considered to be a good performer in the Labour team.
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Speaker 11: He's a part of the Albanezy outer ministry when you
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Speaker 11: look at his portfolio, so a real potential threat there
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Speaker 11: inner city Greens challenges. At the same time, the PM
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Speaker 11: must offend off those outer suburban Melbourne contests against the Liberals.
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Speaker 3: Hey look at a bit of a Joe Biden moment
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Speaker 3: for the PM today.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, a little fall. That's not a fall according to
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Speaker 11: the Prime Minister. He says it was just one foot
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Speaker 11: that went down on the ground. It wasn't an actual
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Speaker 11: fall off the back of that stage at this mining
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Speaker 11: event that was in the seat of Hunter. A lot
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Speaker 11: of the cameramen were in the room. Decide for yourself.
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Speaker 11: This was the PM's fall, non fall off the back
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Speaker 11: of the stage.
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Speaker 13: In photos with everyone.
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Speaker 2: Okay, oh I reckon, if you're not upright, it's a
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Speaker 2: fall truly. I'll let you get back to the traffic
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Speaker 2: in Sydney. Thank you, got top me you next week.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the Peter Dutton campaign. Our
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Speaker 2: media team currently in the air. They're on the move.
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Speaker 2: Before they took off our Cabra reporter camp.
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Speaker 3: Right. Redden filed this report or Peter.
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Speaker 14: We've arrived for a quick pitstop in Busseleton in southwest WA,
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Speaker 14: the liberal seat of Forest where the incumbent Nola Marino
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Speaker 14: is retiring and a former Senator Ben Small is looking
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Speaker 14: to re enter federal parliaments.
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Speaker 5: This is an incredibly thriving part of Western Australia.
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Speaker 4: At a drilling company in Hasluck.
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Speaker 14: Earlier, Peter Dutton pledging six hundred million dollars for mining
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Speaker 14: and agricultural road projects, also revealing he won't roll back
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Speaker 14: Labour's same job say pay laws. Having told Skyne News
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Speaker 14: he's up for a fight with Donald Trump, Peter Dutton
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Speaker 14: now says he'd leverage critical minerals and defense industry to
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Speaker 14: secure tariff exemptions. Are you concerned that some Australians might
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Speaker 14: not want a fight with the United States?
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Speaker 5: Well, you bet that we're going to get the best
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Speaker 5: deal for our country and we can do that through
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Speaker 5: strong leadership.
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Speaker 14: From here, Peter, it's back off to the East Coast
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Speaker 14: for a Daily Telegraph event in west in Sydney, where
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Speaker 14: the two leaders will likely be in the same room
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Speaker 14: together for the first time on this campaign.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to head up to that event too on
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Speaker 2: Tuesday night into the seat of Paramount. I'm going to
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Speaker 2: get out on the ground, have a look through the
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Speaker 2: seat and give you some observations before I go to
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Speaker 2: air before the big event. Plenty of other things to
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Speaker 2: get across. Now joining me in Daily Telegraph reporter James Willis. James,
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Speaker 2: We're going to start actually in Victoria. I know you're
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Speaker 2: in New South Wales, but Victoria absolutely is the state
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Speaker 2: in play along with your own. And it's a Basker
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Speaker 2: case again today proven under labor and that's why there's
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Speaker 2: such a drag on the labor vote. There's a few
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Speaker 2: stories I want to draw to our viewers' attention tonight.
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Speaker 2: They've got an acting chief of Police. I've got a
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Speaker 2: crime crisis of course, or the bloke now says I
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Speaker 2: don't want the job, please please bring me it, do
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Speaker 2: not give me the job. We learn today too that
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Speaker 2: there's four hundred empty beds in Victorian prisons. This is
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Speaker 2: the two maximum security prisons. The beds have been left
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Speaker 2: empty because basically they are rotting.
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Speaker 3: They are rotting.
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Speaker 2: And we've got new data out from the IPA, the
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Speaker 2: Institute of Public Affairs. It shows Victoria's the highest taxed
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Speaker 2: state in the country. Any wonder the PM doesn't want
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Speaker 2: to stand next to the Premier, isn't it.
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Speaker 4: Well that's right, Peter, and good evening to you.
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Speaker 15: And it's no surprise perhaps that there's labor MPs in
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Speaker 15: Victoria at the state level, saying that if there's a
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Speaker 15: bad poll for Prime Minister ALBERSI that could be the
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Speaker 15: end of Premier Allen, who is on the ropes. I
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Speaker 15: think it is worth pointing out in fairness a lot
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Speaker 15: of this is the ongoing legacy of Lockdown Dan Chairman
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Speaker 15: Dan Andrews, who was the Premier of Victoria for a
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Speaker 15: long period of time, responsible for some of the largest
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Speaker 15: lockdowns and the most frequent lockdowns in the world during
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Speaker 15: the coronavirus.
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Speaker 4: But some of these details are.
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Speaker 15: Just shocking now the current Police Commissioner, My understanding is
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Speaker 15: the Police Commissioner was potential for a five year deal
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Speaker 15: worth seven hundred and fifty dollars per year. That'd be
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Speaker 15: one of the leading public servants in the country, certainly
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Speaker 15: outside of Canberra.
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Speaker 4: Now for him to be knocking.
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Speaker 15: It back just forty forty five days into the job
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Speaker 15: indicates and is a metaphor for just how big the
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Speaker 15: crisis is with Victorian policing. They've obviously got recruitment issues,
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Speaker 15: as you say, enormous crime issues on the ground. Peter
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Speaker 15: Dutton has identified those as part of the election campaign
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Speaker 15: so far. But I think certainly given the treatment of
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Speaker 15: the previous Police commissioner and the way that Premier Allen
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Speaker 15: withdrew support for him, and he was also effectively turfed
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Speaker 15: out by the unions and other senior labor ministers. Well,
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Speaker 15: in my mind, who would want the job.
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Speaker 4: The other issue with the prison.
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Speaker 15: I mean, we're talking about a seven hundred and fifty
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Speaker 15: million dollar expansion of Victoria's prisons, hundreds of beds available,
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Speaker 15: literally covered in mold. What on earth is happening in
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Speaker 15: your home state at the moment, Peter, not enough.
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Speaker 2: Sat, I mean that's a problem. I don't think she
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Speaker 2: will be there at the camp. Just into Allen, I'll
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Speaker 2: say that now. I mean they're just waiting to get
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Speaker 2: through the federal campaign and the knives will be out,
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Speaker 2: and I think it'll be Ben Carroll who takes over.
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Speaker 3: But we'll leave that there.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to the Gucci Greens, the Teals. The Limbs
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Speaker 2: are about to launch a massive blitz against them, exposing
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Speaker 2: their record of voting with the Greens and Layman. Now,
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Speaker 2: I know from personal experience out on the hustings in
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Speaker 2: some of these seats have been out to Kurt in
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Speaker 2: Wa and others. The Teals hate you, knowing that seventy
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Speaker 2: percent of the time they have voted with the Greens.
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Speaker 3: Because there's no Green vote in most of these seats,
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Speaker 3: it's virtually non existent.
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Speaker 2: John Howard has got out there. He's been in the
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Speaker 2: seat of curtain. He says the voters are turning against
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Speaker 2: the incumbent Kate Cheney. She's walked both sides of the
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Speaker 2: street on gas, on mining, on live Sheep. She's even
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Speaker 2: tried to blame today Kerrie Stokes and Seven West Media,
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Speaker 2: saying it's terrible they're running a campaign against me. Now
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Speaker 2: and tell you what you start, you know, whinging about
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Speaker 2: the media that tells me you're in a panic and
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Speaker 2: winging about the media.
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Speaker 3: It's not going to help her as a Jane.
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Speaker 13: Well.
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Speaker 4: It blows me away.
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Speaker 15: Peter that a lot of the tier MPs are often
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Speaker 15: shielded somewhat by the media and have been told not
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Speaker 15: to comment when someone puts a camera or microphone in
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Speaker 15: front of them, and I actually, in fairness, find that
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Speaker 15: hard to believe because most of them are articulate. I mean,
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Speaker 15: they had careers before they got into politics. They can
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Speaker 15: all string a sentence together. But the media performance from
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Speaker 15: some of them has been far from unimpressive. Look, it's
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Speaker 15: actually really fascinating in Sydney and I know you've mentioned Wa.
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Speaker 15: We've obviously got Coujong and Gold seen in Victoria and
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Speaker 15: a couple of other seats there. But in Sydney the
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Speaker 15: amount of core flutes for the Liberal Party which are
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Speaker 15: scattered across the Northern Beaches and we're there last week
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Speaker 15: and maybe even the week before. I mean they have
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Speaker 15: been there well before this election was even called. I'm
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Speaker 15: not sure if that's within the rules, but that was
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Speaker 15: certainly the case. But the Liberal Party got the jump
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Speaker 15: on the Teals. They're trying to win back Manly w'aringa
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Speaker 15: Zali Segal's seat, Tony Abbot's old seat, with Jamie Rogers
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Speaker 15: on the north side of the Northern Beaches, Bromwin Bishop's
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Speaker 15: old seat. You've got James Brown, who I think is
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Speaker 15: a very good candidate up against Sophie Stomps from the
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Speaker 15: Teals who has a tiny margin at this point in time,
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Speaker 15: and of course a Legraspender and Roeknox in the east.
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Speaker 15: But the grassroots support is fascinating. I've heard rumors of
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Speaker 15: hundreds of thousands of dollars of Liberal resources.
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Speaker 4: Pumped into these seats.
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Speaker 15: And the tricky thing of course with that, as you know,
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Speaker 15: is that when you're pumping it all into those couple
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Speaker 15: of areas, what are you giving up as a result,
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Speaker 15: You're giving up other parts of Western Sydney and as
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Speaker 15: we know sadly, even though Peter Dutton has united the
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Speaker 15: party on a federal level, the big issue out of
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Speaker 15: the last election was boots on the ground that grassroot
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Speaker 15: volunteer support.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope they're putting pretty the effort into the
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Speaker 2: central Coast, Western Sydney and other sort of target seats
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Speaker 2: in New South Wales, not just the ones they love
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Speaker 2: that are held by the tials.
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Speaker 3: Hey, just really quickly. The worst time.
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Speaker 2: For this sort of stuff, particularly in the health area,
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Speaker 2: is during a federal campaign. But there's talk of a
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Speaker 2: big strike by doctors in New South Wales.
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Speaker 3: What can you tell me?
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Speaker 4: This is just coming to hand.
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Speaker 15: But it is off the back of effectively a failing
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Speaker 15: medical system here, Peter, which is quite ironic because Chris
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Speaker 15: Mins and the Labor government have lifted the public service
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Speaker 15: wage cap and have done everything possible to entice nurses
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Speaker 15: and doctors and paramedics to stay in the field. But look,
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Speaker 15: I don't have the full details at this point in time.
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Speaker 4: Apart from the.
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Speaker 15: Surface level level suggestion that there is potentially a strike
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Speaker 15: in regards to doctors and this is going to be
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Speaker 15: another one for Chris Mins to handle. A couple of
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Speaker 15: years after lifting the wages cap and claiming that would
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Speaker 15: be enough to keep the health system under control, we've
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Speaker 15: still got ramping. We'll still got massive issues in emergency
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Speaker 15: departments and this will be something that continues in the
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Speaker 15: days ahead.
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Speaker 4: Keep in mind all.
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Speaker 15: The psychiatrists retired resigned all at once as well, so
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Speaker 15: they've got big issues in New South Wales and the
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Speaker 15: health space.
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Speaker 2: So I hope for journalists that are with the Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister next week call him out if he dares hold
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Speaker 2: up his Medicare card and claim that he's responsible for
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Speaker 2: a perfect system and only labor can have a perfect system.
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Speaker 2: If he does that in New South Wales, James Willis,
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Speaker 2: I want you to call him out right.
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Speaker 3: Thank you. We'll leave it there all right. Let's get into.
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Speaker 2: Tariffs, because across the board countries have been hit, some
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Speaker 2: countries forty percent, some thirty like China. Here in Australia,
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Speaker 2: most would argue we've been spared just ten percent, but
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Speaker 2: it is a ten percent hit on our exporters. Let's
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Speaker 2: get to the bottom of it now, Business Enator Ross Green,
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Speaker 2: who joins me. Now, let's start at the very beginning, right,
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Speaker 2: because we have this problem with the petrol tax, you know,
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Speaker 2: excise versus petrol tax. Paul voters have got you know,
18:43
Speaker 2: steam coming out of their ears. Why is it called
18:46
Speaker 2: a tariff? Why don't we just call it a tax
18:48
Speaker 2: on imports? Because essentially, Ross, that's what it is.
18:52
Speaker 1: It is it's a tax on any important moving across
18:56
Speaker 1: a border.
18:56
Speaker 9: So that's broadly what it has always been. A tariff.
18:59
Speaker 1: And fact of the matter is there are tariffs and quotas,
19:02
Speaker 1: So there are different ways in which you can change
19:04
Speaker 1: the trade that comes across your borders. One is to
19:07
Speaker 1: impose attacks or a tariff as it comes in. There
19:11
Speaker 1: are also duties, remember, and excises that also hit them.
19:14
Speaker 1: They're all essentially the same thing, and that is that
19:17
Speaker 1: they're tariffs. But then on top of that there are quotas,
19:20
Speaker 1: and quotas are that we are going to allow you
19:22
Speaker 1: to send x amount of that good to our shores.
19:26
Speaker 1: And that's another way that you can limit the amount
19:28
Speaker 1: of trade, which therefore can also suppress competition in your
19:32
Speaker 1: home and therefore improve your local industry.
19:35
Speaker 9: So that's what this is about.
19:36
Speaker 1: And so what Donald Trump right now is seeking to
19:39
Speaker 1: do is a couple of things. What he's seeking to
19:41
Speaker 1: do is to bring more business to America. He wants
19:45
Speaker 1: more plants, more factories, he wants more industry in America.
19:49
Speaker 1: What that does, long term, and it's long term to
19:51
Speaker 1: be able to get those factories on the ground, is
19:54
Speaker 1: to basically create more trade coming from America to the
19:58
Speaker 1: world rather than the opposite.
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Speaker 9: So what he says is.
20:02
Speaker 1: Really, over a period of time, America has given up
20:05
Speaker 1: its strength in industry and that has come at a
20:08
Speaker 1: cost to the US economy, which means it's wracked up
20:11
Speaker 1: trillions of dollars in debt and indeed with deficits.
20:14
Speaker 9: To other countries. And that's what he's seeking to overcome.
20:19
Speaker 3: Now.
20:19
Speaker 2: Of course, that's what he was elected to do. He
20:21
Speaker 2: promised he would reindustrialize the United States. He wants it
20:25
Speaker 2: to be manufacturing strong, so they're not relying on China.
20:29
Speaker 2: They can scale up their military because got the skills
20:32
Speaker 2: based back in their country. So no one should be
20:35
Speaker 2: surprised by this. But just on the issue of the
20:38
Speaker 2: ten percent tariff for tax on Australian exports. He's saying
20:43
Speaker 2: it's reciprocal because we do that to them. But the
20:46
Speaker 2: ten percent figure is just the application of our GST
20:50
Speaker 2: when goods come into Australia.
20:52
Speaker 3: Isn't that.
20:52
Speaker 2: And of course if you buy goods in Australia, there's
20:54
Speaker 2: a ten percent GST. It's not just hit on us.
20:58
Speaker 1: Involves on everything, right, But then you've got to remember
21:02
Speaker 1: that if you go.
21:02
Speaker 9: To the United States, there are taxes.
21:04
Speaker 1: That you will be imposed on your goods when you
21:07
Speaker 1: go into the United States. There's all sorts of sales taxes,
21:09
Speaker 1: but there's three taxes that really can be identified, almost four.
21:13
Speaker 1: So I've got a little list just to show you.
21:15
Speaker 1: So the GST is first and foremost. The reason why
21:18
Speaker 1: that's so important is because you know it's an obvious
21:21
Speaker 1: tax on any goods that are coming into the country,
21:24
Speaker 1: so to sell in Australia, whether.
21:26
Speaker 9: You're a local manufacturer important. That is one.
21:28
Speaker 1: The next one is the luxury car tax. That's another
21:32
Speaker 1: important one. So that also, if you like, stifles competition
21:36
Speaker 1: for cars being sold in Australia.
21:39
Speaker 9: But broadly we don't bring cars in.
21:41
Speaker 1: From America because of the whole left hand drive, right
21:44
Speaker 1: hand drive situation. They don't make them suit our specifications.
21:48
Speaker 1: The third one is the wine equalization tax. So in
21:52
Speaker 1: other words, if we're importing wine from California, say under
21:56
Speaker 1: those circumstances, there's an extra tax that will come on
21:59
Speaker 1: board there. And then finally, if you have a look
22:01
Speaker 1: at this, they're dumping and countervailing taxes. So these taxes
22:06
Speaker 1: are the reason for justification for Australia being hit with
22:10
Speaker 1: that ten percent sort of tariff and why we were
22:13
Speaker 1: not exempted by.
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Speaker 9: The United States administration.
22:18
Speaker 2: So just to keep that numbers up on the screen
22:20
Speaker 2: there because people can see they're, you know, luxury car
22:22
Speaker 2: tax thirty three percent. I get your point about the
22:25
Speaker 2: wrong side of the car and the wheel and all
22:27
Speaker 2: that stuff get ten and not the highest numbers. We
22:31
Speaker 2: should think, how lucky does But I got to say,
22:33
Speaker 2: you know, I was watching both the leader of the
22:35
Speaker 2: Opposition and the Prime Minister today bang on about how
22:38
Speaker 2: represent reprehensible these tariffs are. But given we had the
22:43
Speaker 2: luxury car tax under the pretext of trying to protect
22:47
Speaker 2: the domestic car industry in Australia, we haven't had one
22:49
Speaker 2: here for about a decade. Why the heck are we
22:52
Speaker 2: still being paid hit with that charge ross.
22:55
Speaker 1: Well, because the government collects tax from wealthy people, that's why.
23:00
Speaker 1: And so as a result, if you've got an ordinary
23:03
Speaker 1: vehicles about eighty thousand dollars.
23:04
Speaker 9: If you've got to what they'd call an efficient fuel vehicle,
23:09
Speaker 9: call an.
23:09
Speaker 1: Electric vehicle if you like, or a hybrid, then it
23:12
Speaker 1: gets up to about ninety one thousand dollars, and that's
23:14
Speaker 1: when you hit that extra tax of thirty three percent.
23:17
Speaker 9: Now, the reality is that's.
23:18
Speaker 1: A barrier to anybody, and it's also a real message,
23:23
Speaker 1: if you like, to consumers as to how.
23:26
Speaker 9: They will buy vehicles. So you're right about that.
23:29
Speaker 1: They should have just dumped it because that was there
23:31
Speaker 1: to protect the local car industry, which is gone.
23:34
Speaker 9: So you know.
23:35
Speaker 1: The one thing, of course, is the beef industry. That's
23:37
Speaker 1: the big one, four billion dollars. Just one little thing
23:40
Speaker 1: about this as a curious thing which I didn't quite understand,
23:43
Speaker 1: and that was originally we had sort of, if you like,
23:46
Speaker 1: restrictions on us beef. Now, if we had had that
23:50
Speaker 1: beef coming across our borders, there was issues in regards
23:54
Speaker 1: to mad count disease. But as part of the free
23:57
Speaker 1: trade agreements back in twenty nineteen that was lifted. And
24:00
Speaker 1: so if a cow is raised, slaughtered, processed and brought
24:05
Speaker 1: to Australia, no duties whatsoever, no restrictions. But if it's
24:09
Speaker 1: actually then brought across the border from Mexico and fattened
24:13
Speaker 1: in America, there can be issues and problems with mad
24:17
Speaker 1: cow disease. And that's the reason why those limitations on
24:21
Speaker 1: the beef that can come into Australia from the US.
24:24
Speaker 1: There's a final one about that American beef is more
24:26
Speaker 1: expensive than Brittany than Australian beef. That's a reason why
24:29
Speaker 1: you've got more beef going to America than what you've
24:32
Speaker 1: got beef coming from America to Australia.
24:37
Speaker 2: Anyone to be mad to eat us beef by Australian
24:40
Speaker 2: beak's absolutely fantastic, so.
24:42
Speaker 3: We should be. Don't worried about a bit of competition
24:44
Speaker 3: on that score. Thank you very much. Ross.
24:47
Speaker 2: Hey ya are well done two on getting the first
24:49
Speaker 2: Treasurer's debate here too is left better. I'll tell you
24:52
Speaker 2: Sky next week next Wednesday, seven thirty pm fig Jam
24:58
Speaker 2: Jim up Againstangus got off be something to watch, won't
25:01
Speaker 2: it all?
25:01
Speaker 10: Right?
25:01
Speaker 2: After the break, I've been joined by another former chief
25:03
Speaker 2: of staff, a labor One. We're going to bring you
25:06
Speaker 2: a new segment during this campaign. Two former campaigners. We're
25:09
Speaker 2: going to get into the nitty gritty. We're going to
25:11
Speaker 2: talk about a whole lot of stuff that's happened this
25:13
Speaker 2: week and help you sort of get behind the closed door.
25:17
Speaker 2: Plus more in the rise of influence too. I think
25:19
Speaker 2: they're pretty obnoxious, but they're going to make a difference
25:21
Speaker 2: in this campaign. I'm told we'll talk about that as well.
25:27
Speaker 3: Welcome back.
25:28
Speaker 2: We're sending the cameras out to a massive town hall
25:30
Speaker 2: meeting in regional Victoria as the community gets very very
25:35
Speaker 2: angry against Labour's reckless renewables only energy plan. I've got
25:39
Speaker 2: your exclusive footage on that in a moment. The first
25:41
Speaker 2: My next guest is the only other person you'll see
25:44
Speaker 2: in the media in this campaign along with me, has
25:46
Speaker 2: actually been the chief of staff to a national party leader.
25:49
Speaker 3: Now, because of that.
25:50
Speaker 2: Because of that behind the scenes experience, we're going to
25:52
Speaker 2: bring you a special segment in the campaign that gets
25:55
Speaker 2: into the details that others in the media are either
25:57
Speaker 2: aren't picking up or don't understand because they've never been
26:01
Speaker 2: on the inside like both of us have. Joining me
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Speaker 2: now Bill Shorton's former chief of staff now of course
26:06
Speaker 2: g XO Strategies director Cameron Milner. Well, this is a
26:10
Speaker 2: turn up for the books made. But I'm delighted to
26:12
Speaker 2: have you on because I want to get into the
26:13
Speaker 2: campaign nitty gritty. I want to start with how volatile
26:17
Speaker 2: electricity is. Right, we know the vote, we know the
26:20
Speaker 2: vote is soft. Every polster is telling us that. We
26:23
Speaker 2: also know there's a hell of a lot of undeciders
26:25
Speaker 2: out there. Now we've got just two weeks clear though
26:29
Speaker 2: before prepoles open, and that means the race is really
26:32
Speaker 2: on to get them, to get them.
26:33
Speaker 3: In your corner.
26:37
Speaker 16: It absolutely is, Peter, and I think your article today
26:39
Speaker 16: in Australian absolutely nailed it, and it nails the experience
26:41
Speaker 16: in the campaign when everywhere on early on the campaign
26:44
Speaker 16: saying the.
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Speaker 13: Pollings, this, the pollings that we're very early on this campaign.
26:47
Speaker 16: But you're right, voters will start to vote in two
26:49
Speaker 16: weeks time, so both sides have to set their policies
26:52
Speaker 16: and get some get some momentum back into the campaign.
26:54
Speaker 16: But let's not forget those soft voters often vote late,
26:57
Speaker 16: so the soft voters are probably three or four weeks
26:59
Speaker 16: away from voting, so they're very gettible. And to your point,
27:02
Speaker 16: I've not seen a campaign like this, Peter from the
27:04
Speaker 16: inside like you have as well. With the soft votes
27:06
Speaker 16: at forty five percent, I mean normally be about twenty
27:09
Speaker 16: percent and we get down about ten by polling day,
27:12
Speaker 16: but starting out at forty five percent is a massive
27:14
Speaker 16: soft vote, So it's a massively gettible campaign for either side.
27:20
Speaker 2: We know in a campaign polls are going to bounce around.
27:22
Speaker 2: They did this week, laborhead in one coalition, ahead in
27:26
Speaker 2: another nil or drawer and another right. We also know
27:28
Speaker 2: the campaign polls will always tighten, right, This always happened.
27:33
Speaker 2: You mentioned my column. I went through this the other
27:35
Speaker 2: night with my viewers. We were behind in every single
27:39
Speaker 2: poll all the way through the year and the election
27:41
Speaker 2: in twenty ten we've got more seats in the end
27:43
Speaker 2: of Labor. We lost the negotiation. Of course, the same
27:46
Speaker 2: there for Scott Morrison too. He was behind throughout twenty
27:49
Speaker 2: nineteen and he had that miracle win. So in many respects,
27:53
Speaker 2: it's a long way to play out what we've seen
27:56
Speaker 2: this week, though, cam is a fight for the dominant narrative,
28:00
Speaker 2: who has the dominant narrative, and then with the dominant narrative,
28:04
Speaker 2: who picks up the momentum into the second week.
28:07
Speaker 3: I think that's where it's critical.
28:10
Speaker 16: Look it is, Peter, and I think and I said
28:12
Speaker 16: the same thing about twenty sixteen. I mean, no one
28:14
Speaker 16: thought Shorten could win. And Shorten started from a very
28:16
Speaker 16: similar position to Peter Dutton and came within one seat
28:18
Speaker 16: of beating Malcolm turmbule So. And you obviously were served
28:21
Speaker 16: up the first labor minority government in twenty ten as well,
28:25
Speaker 16: So it's doable within one term from the previous election.
28:28
Speaker 16: So Dutton's very much still able to do this. But
28:32
Speaker 16: I think the critical thing here is that we're not
28:33
Speaker 16: talking about cost of living any longer, and that's probably
28:35
Speaker 16: taken the wind out of Peter Dutton and the Liberals campaign.
28:38
Speaker 16: As soon as we get back to cost of living,
28:40
Speaker 16: I think it's game on and it tightens for Albanie.
28:42
Speaker 16: But it's also why Albo's very happy to talk about
28:44
Speaker 16: Trump and anything else but his cost of living crisis.
28:47
Speaker 2: Peter, So you make a really good point there. He
28:51
Speaker 2: is often picking the Trump fight, not just because he
28:54
Speaker 2: wants to put and we know it's popular with some
28:58
Speaker 2: segments of the voting population. We know you wants to
29:00
Speaker 2: put Peter Dutton in.
29:01
Speaker 3: The Trump camp.
29:02
Speaker 2: Yes, but it's also about stealing oxygen. Right the moment,
29:05
Speaker 2: he keeps talking about Trump and forces Dart into a
29:08
Speaker 2: defensive position. He's not trying to defend his lack of legacy,
29:11
Speaker 2: lack of first term.
29:12
Speaker 3: That's what the Trump fights.
29:14
Speaker 13: About, Absolutely, Peter. It's a look squirrel moment.
29:18
Speaker 16: It's talking about anything else but the Albo cost a
29:20
Speaker 16: living crisis, and that's his media strategy, and for the moment,
29:23
Speaker 16: it's working.
29:24
Speaker 13: But I'm not sure it's going to work next week.
29:25
Speaker 13: It's not going to work over the next two days either.
29:27
Speaker 16: I think the things are going to get back to
29:29
Speaker 16: cost of living, because that's actually.
29:30
Speaker 13: Where voters are telling posters.
29:31
Speaker 16: They want to hear some answers, and that's the number
29:33
Speaker 16: one issue of concern still to them to this day.
29:38
Speaker 2: Everyone I've spoken to in seats, labor seats and liberal seats,
29:41
Speaker 2: incumbent seats at the moment are telling me that.
29:43
Speaker 3: The petrol price cut, the Dutton's.
29:46
Speaker 2: Gone on the table, immediate fed income half attacks is gone.
29:51
Speaker 2: That's more attractive because the more you drive, and the
29:53
Speaker 2: target seats are in areas where people drive more or
29:56
Speaker 2: their tradees. That's more attractive than seventy to day, fifteen
30:01
Speaker 2: months down the track.
30:03
Speaker 3: What's that play out there? Do you think? For like?
30:05
Speaker 3: But what are they telling you?
30:08
Speaker 16: Look, it's a definite problem and they don't want to
30:10
Speaker 16: talk about the petrol tax. They don't want talk about
30:12
Speaker 16: real cost of living relief, especially for those out of suburbs. Peter,
30:15
Speaker 16: I mean, look, we're going to get down to election night.
30:17
Speaker 16: We'll look at the n C seats and they'll be
30:19
Speaker 16: kind of Greens and Labor, the Genian regional seats and
30:22
Speaker 16: we won by National Party people. Again, this is being
30:24
Speaker 16: one in the suburbs in selection. Every state has marginal
30:27
Speaker 16: voters and voters under massive cost of living pressure in
30:30
Speaker 16: those middle to outer suburbs, which is exactly why Peter
30:33
Speaker 16: Dutton's tax target is bang on and the five dollars
30:36
Speaker 16: a week so you know in fifteen months time doesn't
30:39
Speaker 16: really touch the sites. So the only thing I think
30:42
Speaker 16: structured about the tax cut, which we've talked about, is
30:44
Speaker 16: if the Liberals go to the polls wanting to repeal
30:48
Speaker 16: a tax cut for people. I think that gives labor
30:50
Speaker 16: a big, big stick. But there's lots of time to
30:52
Speaker 16: go and lots of time for Angus Taylor and Peter
30:54
Speaker 16: Dutton to actually have a tax plan and income tax
30:57
Speaker 16: policy for the electors before election day.
31:01
Speaker 2: A couple of other quick ones for me, Why is
31:03
Speaker 2: the pmso week on China? I mean he's got out
31:06
Speaker 2: there at the moment week on this spyship. He's got positive,
31:09
Speaker 2: positive media coming out of the Chinese press. I think
31:12
Speaker 2: that's a bit of a death knell to anybody else.
31:16
Speaker 3: What's the game here?
31:17
Speaker 2: And does it play into the Chinese diaspora here? You know,
31:21
Speaker 2: voters have a Chinese heritage, but they're voting in the
31:24
Speaker 2: Australian election.
31:27
Speaker 13: Look, look they do.
31:28
Speaker 16: But equally, the Hong Kong government sent out, you know,
31:31
Speaker 16: letters to try to pick up someone and get spy
31:33
Speaker 16: intelligence on an Australian citizens. So the Chinese government helping
31:36
Speaker 16: themselves necessarily with the Chinese asper.
31:38
Speaker 13: But look at the polling the other day.
31:40
Speaker 16: Everyone said, oh that people are more fearful about Trump
31:42
Speaker 16: than Russia, but China was still the number one security
31:45
Speaker 16: concern for Australian voters. So I think if you've got
31:48
Speaker 16: spy ships on our coastline, you got live far exercises.
31:51
Speaker 16: I mean the Prime Minister had to divert a virgin
31:53
Speaker 16: pilot to go and find out out this one. Probably again, Peter.
31:55
Speaker 16: I mean that's the level of our national security under
31:59
Speaker 16: elbow and a weak elbow. And I think Australian voters
32:02
Speaker 16: see that and they're genuinely concerned that we could be
32:04
Speaker 16: this bad on Albow's watch.
32:08
Speaker 3: And this is a kick to my side.
32:09
Speaker 2: But I've got to say, just send a nampajin for
32:10
Speaker 2: Price and the most popular politician in the country. Why
32:15
Speaker 2: wouldn't the Libs have a buy and Dutton's side every
32:18
Speaker 2: single day because I think punters out.
32:20
Speaker 3: There have a lot of trust in her and it
32:23
Speaker 3: brings back the voice even obliquely.
32:25
Speaker 2: Don't even have to mention it, just have just senter there.
32:27
Speaker 2: Why aren't they doing that.
32:30
Speaker 16: Old Peter, I mean, you know, that's a big mistake
32:33
Speaker 16: because to Centerprise is a fantastic spokesperson on any issue,
32:36
Speaker 16: but especially on the voice and Peter Dutt needs to
32:38
Speaker 16: get back to that voice position again. He needs to
32:40
Speaker 16: be the person who's standing up for values that he's
32:43
Speaker 16: concerned about, explaining the vote is what he wants to
32:45
Speaker 16: do and actually being that strong voice and the way
32:48
Speaker 16: Jacinta was on the voice as well.
32:49
Speaker 9: That was great.
32:50
Speaker 16: No, that's what he needs to channel over the next
32:53
Speaker 16: thirty odd days through a polling day if he's going
32:56
Speaker 16: to be a chance at this election.
32:59
Speaker 2: Now, my campward just before we go, goes to a
33:01
Speaker 2: merely a Hamer seed of Couyong that hit back with
33:04
Speaker 2: you know, don't steal this core flute, moniqu Ryan. I
33:07
Speaker 2: thought that was fantastic. I love to see that quick
33:09
Speaker 2: campaigning on the ground. I love to see local campaigns.
33:12
Speaker 3: Do a hit.
33:13
Speaker 2: So keep your eyes out next week. We'll see what
33:15
Speaker 2: we can turn up for our chat every Thursday during
33:18
Speaker 2: the s federal campaign.
33:19
Speaker 3: Thank you camp. Great Toaby on the show.
33:21
Speaker 2: All right, after the break, we're going to get into
33:22
Speaker 2: some issues with farmers. We've got cameras at a very
33:25
Speaker 2: feisty public meeting.
33:27
Speaker 3: We'll talk about that.
33:28
Speaker 2: And what's going on with Elon Musk and the White House.
33:36
Speaker 13: Welcome back.
33:37
Speaker 3: We've talked about tariffs here in Australia.
33:38
Speaker 2: How they've gone down or not. But we're going to
33:41
Speaker 2: cross into America and catch up there. How have they
33:43
Speaker 2: gone down with the voters. We'll get to that at
33:45
Speaker 2: the moment. But after three years are promising to get
33:48
Speaker 2: your power bill down by two hundred and seventy five
33:50
Speaker 2: dollars a year. This week the Prime Minister finally forced
33:53
Speaker 2: to come clean, forced to admit that he's modeling. The
33:56
Speaker 2: Reputech's modeling isn't worth the paper it's printed on. Instead,
34:00
Speaker 2: it now says the modeling on which all his power
34:03
Speaker 2: bill promises are based on, has got nothing to do
34:06
Speaker 2: with him.
34:07
Speaker 4: It's reputexas modeling. It's reputexas model ownership of that modeling.
34:12
Speaker 4: It's reputexas modeling from that time.
34:14
Speaker 10: It's reputexas modeling based upon the circumstances at that time.
34:19
Speaker 2: Now, for most of us, this power bill hit is crippling,
34:22
Speaker 2: and we know it's going to keep going up if
34:24
Speaker 2: Labour's return to office because of their emissions reduction targets.
34:28
Speaker 2: But if you live outside of our capital cities, it's
34:31
Speaker 2: not just powerbill pain ahead of you. It's your community
34:35
Speaker 2: and your farming livelihood at stake. With Labour's renewables only
34:39
Speaker 2: energy plan, massive wind turbines on some of Australia's best
34:43
Speaker 2: farming land or along our coast solar panels too and
34:47
Speaker 2: ripping through paddocks, whether you agree to it or not,
34:50
Speaker 2: new transmission towers to get this so called green power
34:53
Speaker 2: from their land the bush.
34:55
Speaker 3: To the city.
34:56
Speaker 2: And this is happening across the country. But as I've
34:58
Speaker 2: reported from the ground, no where is it more pronounce
35:00
Speaker 2: than in Victoria, where a massive cross border transmission lines
35:04
Speaker 2: being rolled out, with both the state and federal labor
35:07
Speaker 2: governments riding roughshod over locals out in these communities.
35:12
Speaker 3: The anger is palpable.
35:14
Speaker 2: They're being ignored, treated as people with very little rights
35:17
Speaker 2: by labor. And it's my last Friday, when there was
35:20
Speaker 2: a massive town hall meeting held in the small town
35:23
Speaker 2: of Kenya in Victoria's northwest. Sky News was there to
35:27
Speaker 2: support them. There to give voice for these locals too
35:31
Speaker 2: were National's MP for the federal seat of Malann Webster,
35:34
Speaker 2: State Shadow Energy Minister David Davis, and the federal counterpart,
35:39
Speaker 2: Energy Shadow Minister Ted O'Brien. Now, unlike Chris Bowen or
35:43
Speaker 2: anyone else from labor, these pollies fronted up and they
35:46
Speaker 2: were happy to hear from concerned residents.
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Speaker 10: Hello everyone, I'm Ted O'Brien. I'm not Chris Bowen and
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Speaker 10: with that, I'm going to leave now.
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Speaker 2: Surely, as part of cutting the Rewiring the Nation plan,
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Speaker 2: your government would not follow the current government's folly and
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Speaker 2: will acts the and I West immediately.
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Speaker 10: We reject Labour's plan for up to twenty eight thousand
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Speaker 10: kilometers of transmission lines to Therefore, Peter Dutton announced last
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Speaker 10: night that we intend to scrap Labour's twenty billion dollar
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Speaker 10: rewiring Australia plan. I'm very proud and I'll stand by it.
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Speaker 13: I'll fight it all the way to the election.
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Speaker 10: The decision we've made to cancel that funding for rewiring
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Speaker 10: the Nation we.
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Speaker 17: Are currently considered an inconvenience to be manipulated, patronized, misled
36:42
Speaker 17: and most disgracefully, the last people that the board and
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Speaker 17: management of a EMO.
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Speaker 13: Thought should be informed.
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Speaker 17: Will the Coalition commit to a wholesale review and proper
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Speaker 17: inquiry into the role and functions of an EMO when
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Speaker 17: you get into government.
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Speaker 10: Thank you Reform and change.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 10: I think system plan is one thing. I think another
37:03
Speaker 10: issue is governance. A EMAIL doesn't report to the federal government,
37:09
Speaker 10: so we can't call them into senateed estimates, but David
37:13
Speaker 10: can't call them in either.
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Speaker 13: This is a thing, right, we're really interested. Why is
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Speaker 13: government subsidizing this renewable build? These things wouldn't be built
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Speaker 13: without government support.
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Speaker 18: Can you cancel these projects? Are you prepared to? Don't
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Speaker 18: do what Daniel and Anders did and wipe up the
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Speaker 18: project and suffer the consequences the loss of money? At
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Speaker 18: what point and how hard is it to unwind these projects?
37:38
Speaker 18: At what stage can they be unwound?
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Speaker 10: You through those words have put us on notice that
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Speaker 10: we must deliver on the words we've spoken today, and
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Speaker 10: we expect nothing less.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now are the Victorian mp who organize this
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Speaker 2: meeting and Webster.
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Speaker 3: Good on you particularly.
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Speaker 2: Forgetting the shadow ministers, both of them there, because both
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Speaker 2: of them can end up being the energy ministers after
38:08
Speaker 2: the state election in Victoria, of course, the one we're
38:09
Speaker 2: currently fighting here in Victoria federally Chris Bow and nowhere
38:13
Speaker 2: to be seeing no one else from Labor bothering to
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Speaker 2: turn up. But I would hope you've given your community
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Speaker 2: some heart.
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Speaker 19: Look, it was an incredibly important meeting and took months
38:26
Speaker 19: to organize. Of course, it was very rewarding to have
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Speaker 19: the community able to speak to the shadow ministers face
38:34
Speaker 19: to face and to hear their responses. So I am
38:38
Speaker 19: very grateful that both shadow ministers came and I certainly
38:44
Speaker 19: will continue to bat for my community because it's our
38:47
Speaker 19: communities out in Mali who are being impacted by these
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Speaker 19: disastrous plans by Labor.
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Speaker 20: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I'll stand with you, honestly because this is my whole
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Speaker 2: stumping ground and these people have not been heard for
39:02
Speaker 2: so long. I know you fought for them, but it's
39:05
Speaker 2: taken a long time for this to be in the
39:06
Speaker 2: national issue. It should be one of the biggest issues obviously,
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Speaker 2: is this transmission line, the V and I line for GreenPower.
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Speaker 2: For people in the city, it will desecrate their land,
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Speaker 2: these farmers and their land. They won't get any benefit
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Speaker 2: from this. This is for Green voters in Sydney and Melbourne.
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Speaker 2: It's not just an easy question of what you scrap
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Speaker 2: and where I wouldn't play a bit of what Ted
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Speaker 2: O'Brien had to say to explain to viewers that this
39:31
Speaker 2: is deliberately locked up by Labor.
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Speaker 10: Have a listen then, in terms of your question as
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Speaker 10: to what happens V and I West is they're funding
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Speaker 10: from rewiring the nation. Why wouldn't we make a commitment here?
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Speaker 13: And now.
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Speaker 10: We do not have access to the information of knowing
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Speaker 10: where the money from rewiring the nation has been allocated,
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Speaker 10: how much, under what contract terms.
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Speaker 2: I guess he's being honest there, and we want that
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Speaker 2: from our politicians. And but I guess that the good
40:04
Speaker 2: news is the two hundred billion dollars of money for
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Speaker 2: rewiring the nation. You're not going to proceed with that.
40:10
Speaker 2: The twenty eight thousand dollars of transmission lines. Pet it
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Speaker 2: up and says in his Budget reply speech, not going
40:15
Speaker 2: to proceed with that. If we have nuclear power for Australia,
40:19
Speaker 2: if we up our gas until the nuclear is ready.
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Speaker 2: All of this stuff is not negative at anywhere near
40:25
Speaker 2: the scale as Chris Bowen an for THEILM and easier planning.
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Speaker 19: Absolutely and for farmers who just want to grow food
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Speaker 19: and fiber to export, and it's a hot topic today
40:40
Speaker 19: to the world and to feed our nation and to
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Speaker 19: clothe our nation. This is a really important failure by
40:49
Speaker 19: Labor to understand just how these transmission lines and the
40:52
Speaker 19: wind turbines and the solar farms at industrial scale impacts
40:57
Speaker 19: growing that food and fiber, and my hope and prayer
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Speaker 19: before this election, Peter, is that the people in the
41:05
Speaker 19: city would begin to understand what these plans and what
41:09
Speaker 19: these proposals are doing to our regional communities because they
41:14
Speaker 19: are hurting. There are so many people who cry on
41:17
Speaker 19: my shoulder. There are so many community communities who are
41:21
Speaker 19: divided over this, and it's just tragic.
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Speaker 2: We spoke to some of the people that were there,
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Speaker 2: they had this to say.
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Speaker 11: I understand policy and legislation's a complex machine to work within,
41:35
Speaker 11: but there are some very clear projects and.
41:39
Speaker 3: Policies that need to be introduced.
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Speaker 21: We'll certainly be looking at the federal election at the moment,
41:43
Speaker 21: but we're also turning our head towards the state election,
41:46
Speaker 21: trying to help support the Dutton government and the Little
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Speaker 21: Proud National Party to get through this election hopefully with
41:54
Speaker 21: a clear majority.
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Speaker 9: It's been great.
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Speaker 22: We definitely wouldn't have got the two people here today
41:59
Speaker 22: if it wasn't for both David and Ted. There was
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Speaker 22: great per efforts to get them here. Is Buddy, let's
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Speaker 22: ripper to have someone like that out in this area
42:06
Speaker 22: and it's basically for man's efforts. There's people in that
42:09
Speaker 22: sharing shed right there who are prepared to go to
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Speaker 22: jail for this cause.
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Speaker 23: The strengths there to unite and fight from now and
42:17
Speaker 23: from the start all the way through. We know we're
42:19
Speaker 23: getting listened to, which is probably quite not quite enough.
42:23
Speaker 23: But we have been in Parliament, we've been into the offices,
42:26
Speaker 23: and we need to make sure that none of these
42:29
Speaker 23: policies go ahead on our land.
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Speaker 2: Part of the reason, and we'll leave it here, but
42:35
Speaker 2: part of the reason why they're trying to run over
42:36
Speaker 2: the top of your communities is because you are in
42:39
Speaker 2: a relatively safe seat because Labor thinks you don't matter.
42:43
Speaker 2: Your people don't matter because they don't vote Labor.
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Speaker 19: It's hard to deny that. That's what it feels like.
42:55
Speaker 19: It certainly feels like that to my constituents, and you
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Speaker 19: know it's my call for shadow ministers to come to
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Speaker 19: Mali and speak to my constituents and give them hope
43:07
Speaker 19: because if we don't have hope going forward the whole
43:11
Speaker 19: country Wilfare will feel the brunt.
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Speaker 3: Of this.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely and we've got to grow more and more in
43:21
Speaker 2: Australia not to send our farms to the wall.
43:24
Speaker 3: Thank you, and coming to a stair as you can
43:25
Speaker 3: see from the beautiful halls Gap region. All right, quick break,
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Speaker 3: after the break.
43:29
Speaker 2: Elon Musk is he out in his ear with the
43:31
Speaker 2: Trump administration is about to leave the big job of
43:34
Speaker 2: the doge. We'll get into that after the break. All right,
43:41
Speaker 2: it's time now for my international panel. Sky and his
43:43
Speaker 2: contributed Kosher Garda joins me and Michael Danby, Pasture of
43:47
Speaker 2: Parliament's Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee.
43:49
Speaker 3: So this is right up his alley. Welcome to you both.
43:52
Speaker 2: Hey, I did think no putting myself outside of Australia
43:57
Speaker 2: for the moment. Kosher today, when Trump did what he did,
44:01
Speaker 2: this is exactly what he said he would do before
44:03
Speaker 2: the election. It's what he was elected by Americans overwhelmingly
44:07
Speaker 2: to do. And they will be watching that saying, well,
44:11
Speaker 2: we pay on results. We pay for or elect politicians
44:14
Speaker 2: to do what they promise they will do. I suspect
44:17
Speaker 2: to not in America, they're cheering this result, even if
44:19
Speaker 2: we're not happy.
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Speaker 20: That is a key point. So look, tariffs are controversial.
44:23
Speaker 20: They are untested in modern economic history to this scale
44:27
Speaker 20: in this way, and there are certainly factions, including from
44:30
Speaker 20: the right in America that don't like it.
44:31
Speaker 3: Or uneasy by it.
44:32
Speaker 20: However, he has telegraphed this for forty years, even as
44:36
Speaker 20: a private citizen. There are clips of him on Oprah, Winfrey,
44:39
Speaker 20: on David Len, Larry King on CNBC where he has long.
44:42
Speaker 3: Held this view.
44:42
Speaker 13: Larry King, Wow, Yes.
44:44
Speaker 20: And he got elected twice, did a little bit of
44:46
Speaker 20: it the first time, did at this time, and it
44:48
Speaker 20: really is no surprise. He just has a different worldview.
44:50
Speaker 20: He believes that America's most desirable consumer market in the world.
44:54
Speaker 20: You want to shift it to thanks from the consumer
44:57
Speaker 20: oriented to a producer oriented societ. Addy, it won't all
45:01
Speaker 20: trickle down into consumer placing or infleetion for that reason,
45:04
Speaker 20: because people want in too that market, and even if
45:06
Speaker 20: it does, that's a price worth paying for that re
45:09
Speaker 20: orientation that he's trying to do. So he's doing it,
45:11
Speaker 20: and people that elected him are very happy to know.
45:14
Speaker 2: And staying with the point that we all agree free
45:17
Speaker 2: trade is a good thing if there's a level playing field,
45:20
Speaker 2: and I don't think there is one with places like China.
45:23
Speaker 2: But I guess his end objective in these very uncertain times,
45:26
Speaker 2: in these I guess war times, particularly with China, Michael,
45:32
Speaker 2: the reindustrialization of the US manufacturing base is a good thing.
45:39
Speaker 24: It is especially for American workers.
45:41
Speaker 22: They love it.
45:43
Speaker 3: And it really is means preparedness.
45:45
Speaker 24: It's a national security issue with China, with Iran, and
45:50
Speaker 24: even with Russia. The Russians are not actually going along
45:53
Speaker 24: with the Donalds plans. So you know, we'll have to
45:57
Speaker 24: see where that all turns out. The tariff thing is
46:00
Speaker 24: designed to reindustrialize America. I don't know whether it will
46:05
Speaker 24: because a lot of the freight trade agreements he had
46:08
Speaker 24: with Canada and Mexico did seem to actually work. He
46:11
Speaker 24: renegotiated them will last time. So this is a bit
46:14
Speaker 24: of a puzzle where this will all end up.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it's a real mistake if anyone's
46:18
Speaker 2: trying to see this through the prism of just straight
46:19
Speaker 2: economics tonight or trade policy.
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Speaker 3: I think there's lots of elements to it. Hey, what
46:24
Speaker 3: is going on with the alumusk So it really.
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Speaker 20: Is fascinating just the role that he's played and came
46:29
Speaker 20: out of the Silicon Valley character to being a meetingful
46:33
Speaker 20: person who helped with the election, and.
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Speaker 3: Everything he's doing with a doge.
46:36
Speaker 20: He's become very divsive, burning Tesla's there's acts of terrorism,
46:41
Speaker 20: that there's.
46:42
Speaker 2: People around that you signaled by buying a Tesla.
46:47
Speaker 20: That rich signal outranks the other one. And it's as
46:50
Speaker 20: a branding study. It's really fascinating because Tesla was the
46:52
Speaker 20: most valuable brand on Earth, more than Apple, more than
46:54
Speaker 20: as really a few short years ago, and now the
46:57
Speaker 20: stock is plummeting. There are consequences for this, but I
47:00
Speaker 20: think he just is looking at the bigger picture. He
47:02
Speaker 20: really thinks that he can play a role to help
47:04
Speaker 20: raip the country and help Trump in some way. So
47:07
Speaker 20: he's in there for now. I don't think he'll be
47:08
Speaker 20: there forever. He's got many other things on his fleet
47:11
Speaker 20: to take care of. But for now, I think he
47:13
Speaker 20: was making a price only.
47:14
Speaker 24: A temporary role, and I think he's going to go
47:17
Speaker 24: the way vivik Ramaswami and do something else, particularly.
47:20
Speaker 2: Look after his own business demise today. You know those
47:24
Speaker 2: leagus and then they'll sort of hose down. You think
47:26
Speaker 2: that's premature, and.
47:27
Speaker 24: Michael, I think it's premature, but I think it's a
47:29
Speaker 24: natural process. He's a businessman. Surely he wants the stock
47:34
Speaker 24: price of Tesla to go back up, and maybe he'll
47:38
Speaker 24: work out that he needs to be seen as a
47:39
Speaker 24: bit less divisive. I mean, I think generally people in America,
47:43
Speaker 24: like in Australia, in favor of less government inefficiency. So
47:47
Speaker 24: that's a generally good concept. But some people think that
47:50
Speaker 24: he's given the image of being, you know, having two
47:53
Speaker 24: wider elbows and going in too hard.
47:55
Speaker 2: I also think, though, don't you think that the Corporate
47:57
Speaker 2: America walls through in America and all of these people
48:00
Speaker 2: that have been grifting off the US foun so so long,
48:04
Speaker 2: they're invested in seeing him off. They want the plummet
48:08
Speaker 2: in the Tesla share price to send him back to
48:10
Speaker 2: his day job. They don't want him looking any harder.
48:13
Speaker 2: I mean, there are all these allegations about the Clintons
48:15
Speaker 2: and their funds, and you know, there's a whole lot
48:17
Speaker 2: of people, perhaps lots of protected money for a long
48:21
Speaker 2: time interest its don't want that.
48:23
Speaker 20: He's in a special position, like a special government employee
48:27
Speaker 20: that has one hundred and thirty d cap to it
48:29
Speaker 20: that can be extended. But the point is he is
48:31
Speaker 20: meant to be like a swat team and in there
48:32
Speaker 20: for the short term.
48:33
Speaker 3: Get this show on the road with doors. She's brought
48:35
Speaker 3: and very smart.
48:36
Speaker 20: People underneath him, and then he's got five companies to run,
48:38
Speaker 20: so I'm sure he's not gonna be there forever.
48:40
Speaker 2: I have lost sight of the fact that Cardinn Peerel
48:42
Speaker 2: was doing the same thing in the Vatican, and then
48:45
Speaker 2: the allegation is they went after him. We know what
48:47
Speaker 2: happened there, So we'll see, Michael, what on earth is
48:50
Speaker 2: happening in France.
48:52
Speaker 24: What's the perfect example of defend people who you disagree
48:56
Speaker 24: with is right to say what they say. I mean,
48:59
Speaker 24: takeing a corruption allegation and then ruling out a person
49:04
Speaker 24: who's the front runner, however much I disagree with her
49:07
Speaker 24: politics from being involved in running for the presidency of France. Again,
49:12
Speaker 24: it's a terrible democratic deficit.
49:15
Speaker 3: People at home. Marine Lapan is accused of doing what
49:18
Speaker 3: Daniel Landras did.
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Speaker 24: I thought you'd remember that.
49:21
Speaker 3: Basically using government funded staff to do politicking.
49:25
Speaker 24: That's exactly it. And you know she should be fined
49:28
Speaker 24: and she should have the public odium of that. But
49:31
Speaker 24: being ruled out, I mean, some of these judges are crazy,
49:33
Speaker 24: that crazy with power, and you know we saw that
49:37
Speaker 24: in the United States where they tried to stop Trump
49:39
Speaker 24: running through all of this lawfare.
49:42
Speaker 3: For all coming on the right stick to politics, be.
49:44
Speaker 24: People by political difference.
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Speaker 3: We'll see you next week. That's it for me.
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Speaker 2: Busy week week one of the first full week of
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Speaker 2: the campaign. Waiting to get back into it with you
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Speaker 2: on Monday night Sea at an six o'clock