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Patriots–Seahawks Super Bowl Preview And Sheduer Sanders is a Pro Bowler? · Fanatically Speaking with Kent

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All right, what's up, everybody? Welcome to another
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episode of Fanatically Speaking. I'm Kent, the
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cohost and promoter. I am log off the log off
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legend, the hater of all things social media.
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I am the cohost and producer of the show. And
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after a quick break from the NFL, our one NBA
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episode, we're right back to the NFL because
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we got to talk about these conference championship
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games that just happened last weekend and do
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a little Super Bowl preview. and what it all
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means, those games that happened, the conference
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championships and what this all means on what
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the possibilities of this, what could be the
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outcome of a Superbowl. Yeah. And I mean, it
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was a good, I enjoyed the games over the weekend.
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I mean, the thing that makes the NFL so great
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and it's so much bigger than other sports is
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because the games are so huge. They get massive
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ratings. They get big numbers. The world kind
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of stops. you know in a lot of ways and it's
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one game three hours and the fate of a franchise
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is resting on that one game you know and the
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outcome of it it's nothing else like it in sports
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i mean you could try to say like march madness
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and you know the nba and in a lot of ways college
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football playoffs somewhat but the the nfl is
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just different it's next level so um yeah man
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i'm ready to get into it let's see what we can
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do okay so if we look back at the conference
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championship games Let's start with the Broncos
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and the Patriots. Okay. All right. No, hold on
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now. Stay consistent. Remember what you said
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about this game. And I don't, I can't remember
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if you said it on air. If you just said it to
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me, remember what you said about the Broncos
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and remember what you said about Jared Stidham.
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Okay. You might have to remind me. I don't, I
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don't know what I said. You said, you, you said
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you could not, you did not care about the Broncos
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and Jared Stidham and you did not want to see
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them win in advance. Oh, yeah, that is for sure.
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And yeah, I don't remember if we recorded that
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or we text that or what we talked about. I think
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we were just talking. I think that was right
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after the show. Maybe we were just talking. Yeah,
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yeah, yeah. I did not want to see that, right?
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And I think you were like, well, what if he lights
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it up and they win it? And then it would have
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been like, well, I don't know. I mean, I guess
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that'd make it more interesting that he, you
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know, the one game that he's played well in his
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life was the biggest one. You know would be in
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his career in that weather like it would have
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been it would have been an all -time performance
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if he pulled it off Unfortunately, he didn't
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but true. Yeah, I mean cuz he was cooking early
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He early he looked Formidable he did Tony Romo
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Tony Romo was as the kids say glazing the hell
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out of them Oh, yeah, but every on everything
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that he did but You know, he he looked okay And
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then he also looked like there's a reason why
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he's the backup, right? And again, in the weather,
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the weather is a different story, right? I mean,
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if anyone would have scored a touchdown in the
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weather, you'd have been like, well, that's the
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ballgame. You know what I mean? It would have
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been over. And I think, you know, and I, you
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know, I texted you as well with the, I was like,
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man, if this thing goes over time, they could
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play forever. That was a really good point too.
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Well, yeah, because they got to play until somebody
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scores. Yeah. Yeah. And that weather was getting
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so bad. I'm like, if they tied up, I mean, we,
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we could just look at a bunch of bad punts and
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bad field goal misses and slippery, you know,
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it could be just ugly and it may, they may play
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until halftime of the next game. So luckily that
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didn't happen because I don't know that I could
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have watched it. Um, not even It wouldn't even
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have been suspenseful for me. But yeah, so we
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lucked out. We're not gonna get Jared Stidham.
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You know, we're gonna get the Drake May and the
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New England Patriots as they pulled it out 10
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to seven. And again, really the game was about
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three quarters and it was still boring because
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the Broncos defense, which has been really good
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all season. Was really good Drake made did not
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you know, he looked shaky They got the benefit
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of a Jared Stidham turnover to give them about
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ten yards to score which they did so Props to
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them for scoring off the turnover. That's gonna
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come in key again and then You know It was the
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coaching decision right as the last been made
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of Sean Payton not kicking the field goal going
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for it And a lot could be said to that. And again,
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Tony Romo did say something smart on TV. He did
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say like you got to get points and in this game
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with the backup. I don't know about the weather
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at the time if they knew what was coming, but
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I know he just was like, hey, you got to get
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points when they're there. And Sean Payton didn't
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do that. And it cost him. But yeah, it was just
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an ugly game. You could call it a defensive battle.
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I would call it more, you know, pretty good defenses,
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you know, pretty good defense. But again, again,
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you're talking about a backup and he showed,
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you know, he had, I think the one big play, big
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pass for about 50, 54 yards that set them up.
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And then after that, it was, it was pretty mediocre.
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And, and like I said, then when the weather came,
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it was, that was basically like whoever's winning
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then, but I believe the Broncos had a field goal
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blocked. that it looked like it might have would
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have went in and that was in the snow. And then
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I think both teams missed a few field goals,
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so. It was one of the least impressive conference
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championship games I've watched in awhile. That
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and that may be true. It wasn't anybody's fault
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though, and I've well not in the fourth quarter.
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No, no, I, so I don't think, well, no, I mean,
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just in terms of how bad the game turned out,
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I'm not putting that on any, like there's no
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one's fault. And no, it just turned out that
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way. Yeah. It just ended that way. And the weather
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certainly didn't help. But my, my thing, and
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I know, I know this is what sports is and I,
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and here I am, you know, I always you know, to
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no disrespect to anybody, no, anyone on the planet.
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I always feel like the adult in the room when
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the game is over, because the first thing people
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do is try to, you know, find the person to blame
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for the reason for the loss. And, you know, so
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the Sean Payton thing, I actually did send that
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to you at the beginning of the game, at the very
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end of the game. I'm like, yeah, Sean Payton
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is kicking himself out that field goal. And I'm
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sorry for not taking that field goal in the first
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half. And this is the main reason. I don't have
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a problem with you going forward on fourth down
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when you're that close and you're in your red
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zone and you may be able to steal some points
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but you don't do it with a backup. Like if you
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had your starting quarterback even with even
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Bo Nix as an inexperienced playoff quarterback
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I'm fine because that dude has been in those
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types of situations all year. You got Jared Stidham
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who is your starting backup quarterback in a
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game to go to the fucking Super Bowl. Like, what
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are you thinking? And I know Sean Payton said
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and did all the right things leading up to the
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game. After the game, I'm going to give him credit.
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He was as professional as you could be. But the
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thing that disturbed me the most was when Jared
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Stidham started doing Jared Stidham type things.
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I don't think Sean Payton did what a head coach
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is supposed to do, is reel that guy in. Because
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we gotta talk about the forward pass, I'm sorry,
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the backward pass slash fumble thing. It was
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so wonky and weird looking. And by the way, I
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thought it was an incomplete pass. I'm just gonna
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say that. It didn't look like it went backward
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to me. So maybe it was a bad angle and I know
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they did the overhead shot and they did the side
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shot. To me, it looked like a forward pass, intentional
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grounding, whatever. But the thing that bothered
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me about it is it was such an unnatural quarterback
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thing to do. I don't know what the hell he was
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thinking. Like, if I'm the head coach in that
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situation, I might have hit you in the face with
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a clipboard the second you got to the sideline.
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I would have hit you in the face with one of
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those eye pads that they'd be, you know, looking
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at plays and stuff on. I don't know what he was
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doing. It was so bizarre. That's one thing. And
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then obviously the interception that he threw,
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I don't know who the hell he was throwing the
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ball to. I don't know why he thought throwing
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a duck in that type of weather into triple coverage
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was a good idea, but he just floated the ball
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up there nowhere near the sideline. His receiver
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didn't even have a shot, gets picked off, and
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it's like, all right, what the hell are we doing?
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I also put that on Sean Payton, too, mainly because
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you don't even put him in position to throw that
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pass, to throw it that poorly. to have it intercepted
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to begin with. So chance after chance, I think
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the game kind of flipped on those three decisions.
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It was the lack of going for a field goal. It
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was the two -handed chest pass that he threw,
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the chest pass that he threw, and then that duck
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just floating the ball up there. I mean, it felt
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like it was in the air for 20 minutes. But, you
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know, hats off to New England. They didn't make
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the mistakes that they you know, that a young
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team could make with a young quarterback. And,
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you know, they, they held their own and they
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were able to, you know, to punch their ticket,
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to go to the Superbowl, winning a road game in
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those types of weather conditions. And I, you
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know, I take my hat off to them. So, um, obviously,
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I mean, we got to look at their, who their opposition
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in the Superbowl is going to be. Yeah. I was
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just going to one more, I was just going to piggyback
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on a few things you mentioned there, like, Yeah,
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the shovel pass to nobody. The only problem,
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again, that's that inexperience and that's that
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deer in the headlights moment for him. I just
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didn't like, you said you thought it was an incomplete
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pass. The biggest thing was the refs, they let
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the play run out and then they went and said
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an incomplete pass. I'm like, well, if it was
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an incomplete pass, then you blow it dead. Yeah,
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bullet dead and they don't even give the defense
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an opportunity to scoop the ball up and run it
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back. So, so, so the refs nearly screwed the
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Patriots because they had to spot it where it
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happened because they ruled it wrong. But we
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can't, you know, we're not, but we're not going
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to do that because the Patriots went right down
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and scored like they should have. Oh, I get it.
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I just, you know, I just want to say again, referee
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and an NFL. I'm like, that's basic right there
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is you know, blow the whistle. And if you read
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Vrabel's lips to the referee, he said, you know,
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again, he was like, yeah, blow the effing whistle.
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Like, what are we doing here? So that was my
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thought on that play. And then, yeah, I thought,
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like you said, we talked about the field goal,
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not trying to field goal and just going for it,
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but, and you're exactly right on that. You don't
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do that with a backup. Get points. When you can
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three points right there for you. Yeah, just
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get points Yeah, and then the duck the duck ball.
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I just thought I was way too soon to throw it
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up I thought at some point maybe because you
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know, it is snow and maybe you get a defender
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to fall and Miracle miracles happen, but at that
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point I thought it was way too early to do that
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I thought just you know They should have been
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throwing like short passes trying to gain yards
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And do whatever they can to get as close as possible
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for a field goal or whatever So that's all I
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got on that. Yeah, the so they will play the
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they they play the winner of the NFC and that
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game was the Seahawks and the Rams in Seattle.
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Another close game, perfect weather. And it really
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came down to. One a turnover. and the Seahawks
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cashed in on that turnover. Dude for the Rams,
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I don't even know his name. He barely dropped
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one punt and then managed to catch another one
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and then that one he tripped on his own feet,
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fell down and obviously disaster set up the Seahawks.
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And again, like the Patriots, the Seahawks cashed
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in, scored credit to them, right? You get the
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ball that close on the turnover. Punch it in
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for a touchdown and they they did exactly that.
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And then ultimately the game came down to the
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Rams having the ball in the six yard line. And
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third and four. And they ran two plays. Where
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they threw into the end zone? And neither pass
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went to Devante Adams or Puka Nakua. And that
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ultimately cost the Rams. They had a golden opportunity
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to take the lead, put a lot of pressure on Seattle,
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and they didn't do it. And I don't think they
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should have kicked a field goal there because,
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again, I don't think their defense was going
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to stop Seattle. So I don't mind them going for
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it. It was just, you know, throw to your best.
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When the game's on the line, a trip to the Super
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Bowl, go to the guys, you know, go to the all
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-time great Devonte Adams and go to top... top
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five receiver right now Puka Nakua who catches
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about everything just throw it up if you're gonna
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throw it up just throw it up to one of them so
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and the Seahawks won if you didn't know they
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uh yeah Sam Darnold overcame so far well he hasn't
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he hasn't overcame his ghost yet but he has overcome
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some things right to to get past the Rams who
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blasted them last year in the playoffs and just
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to prove a lot of doubters wrong, including myself.
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But I did say in the previous episode, I am starting
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to believe more and more in Sam Darnold. Okay.
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It was funny. You started this off saying that
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Seahawks Rams was in perfect weather. The interesting
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thing is not only was it perfect weather, it
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was perfect quarterbacks. Both Darnold and Stafford
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were cooking. Both of them had three touchdowns.
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Both of them threw for almost 350 yards. Stafford
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threw for 374. Neither of them threw an interception.
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Darnold fumbled the ball once, was able to scoop
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it up, no big deal. Sam Darnold was only sacked
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three times. Stafford only sacked once. And interesting
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thing, I don't know if you noticed this, their
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quarterback ratings for the game were almost
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identical. I do know that, yeah. 127 .8 for Darno,
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127 .6 for Stafford. It was insane, right? So
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you sit there and you look at the game, and I
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know it was a back and forth game, but two things
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really stood out to me. One, I know you kind
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of co -signed them going for the touchdown at
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the end there. I thought they should have kicked
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the field goal. Now the reason why is for the
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very reason that we saw the end result to the
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game And the fourth quarter when they got the
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ball back and they were just trying to advance
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the ball down to score because they needed six
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points They were moving the ball pretty easily
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now the coverage was soft Just to kind of just
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just not to give up the big play So the DB's
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and every in the safety's were back linebackers
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are playing off the linemen press forward And
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Puka was able to make that catch going to the
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sideline, you know, knee lands in down, in bounds,
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clock runs out, no big deal. However, if you
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give them that same, those same possessions and
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all they got to do is get in a field goal range,
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I trust Matthew Stafford to be able to do it.
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So now you get those six points, you get that
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field goal that they would have gotten in, you
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know, in the previous possession. And then you
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give your kicker, even if he's got to kick a
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70 yarder to win it. you still give him an opportunity
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to get you those three points to be able to get
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the win. So that's just here nor there. But in
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my eyes, it's like you're that close. Yeah, you're
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down by one point. Your defense has been great.
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You've been able to slow everything down. And
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the second thing that was the most glaring to
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me was no points were scored in the fourth quarter
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other than that. So the Rams in a lot of ways
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figured out Seattle. They figured out how to
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stop them from scoring. Both defenses gave up
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two touchdowns in the third quarter. But in the
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fourth quarter, everything came to a halt. Everybody
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bunkered down and they were playing lights out
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defense on both sides. Even with the Rams making
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their way down, the Seahawks made that stop.
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And I think you got to kind of read the, it's
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like, hey, you got an opportunity to score. you
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know, there was the timeout situation. I think
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McVeigh was kind of kicking himself, you know,
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because he was able to, he had to use some timeouts
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earlier in the half. But at the same time, go
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ahead. He used one to think about challenging
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the spot of a ball. Well, and that's another
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thing. It's a, it's a lot of, there was a lot
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of second guessing that went on. And by the way,
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I don't think you would have won that spot anyway,
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just based on the fact that they'd called it.
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You've mentioned it. You've been mentioning this
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all years. Are these games about the players
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and the coaches or these games about the refs?
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The refs aren't going to admit a lot of fault
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and especially in a situation like that where
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the world is watching. They called it on the
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field and it was too close. And even if it was
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a millimeter where they were off and they could
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have overturned it, they probably wouldn't have.
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Um, it got to be irrefutable evidence for them
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to go against a call that was made on the field.
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Um, so with that, I, I think that they should
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have just went ahead and just took it and said,
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you know what, we're going to trust our defense.
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And if, if the Seahawks were to come down and
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score or if the Seahawks would have come down
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and that's another thing. they stopped Seattle
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and all Seattle would have had to do is get in
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the field goal range and kick the ball to win.
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But at that, but at some point the Rams may have
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gotten the ball back earlier and then they still
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only would have been down by seven. And then
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it still would have given them an opportunity
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to have a much more of a clock bigger field with
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more time on it. So that way they can get the
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ball down and maybe score a touchdown. Then it
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puts you in the situation where do you kick the
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field, go tight and go into OT? or do you go
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for two to go to the Super Bowl? So it just,
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I don't know. It was a great game. You know,
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it was a great game. You know, we talked about,
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I think every single game that they played this
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year, three games, you know, obviously they're
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two division matchups. And then this game, I
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think it was a difference of six or seven points
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total with all games combined. That was the margin
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of victory for both teams. So, you know, hats
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off to Seattle, man. They did everything they
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needed to do. And I'm going to revisit some things
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about Sam Darnold at the end of the show that
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I don't think you again, I'm gonna kind of come
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out of nowhere with some takes on this but He
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did what he needed to do To to win the game.
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He didn't damage them and I don't know if he
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kind of got rid of the you know just kind of
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the ghosts of Sam Darnold, but he hung in there
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and he showed that he can be a starting quarterback
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for a team I bet Minnesota's kicking themselves
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right now that they let that man go. I'm sure
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there's other teams in the NFL, the Panthers,
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you know, the Jets that let that man go. And
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it shows you what can happen when you have a
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coaching staff and a team. And I'm going to give
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credit to that to that locker room, dude. They
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have galvanized. It's been hard on Sam Darnold
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all year. It's been tough for him, even with
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all the winning they've been doing. The only
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negative. On that entire team, all season has
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been Darnold. All the trash talking has been
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on Darnold. And the turnovers have been an issue.
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So I'm not saying that, you know, it's not for
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good measure. He's earned that reputation as
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a, you know, being a turnover prone quarterback,
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but they've wrapped their arms around him. It
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was like, no, that's our dude. And, you know,
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luckily it's paid off, man. And it's gotten them
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to a playoff berth. I'm sorry. Super bowl berth.
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For sure. I think the Vikings are probably kicking
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themselves the most because they had success
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with Sam Darnold. They did. And let him walk.
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And I want to say, when did they win last year?
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When did they win like 13 games last year? No,
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they won 14. 14, that's what I mean. And clearly,
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what was happening, and listen, and now, and
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I know, I know that there's a lot of things that
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come into that. They wanted to, it was one year
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and he needed, he had to get paid. Like you had
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you had to break them off. So it's like so do
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we hitch our wagon to this guy? They chose not
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to and yeah, I bet they're regretting it right
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now Yeah, they're the teams kicking themselves.
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No nothing works for the New York Jets You know
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I mean Tom Tom Brady could clone himself like
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he did his dog and Come back as a 20 year old
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with the Jets and he would still uh, not lead
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them anywhere. Yeah. The jets are, you know,
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and the Panthers are the Panthers. I, you know,
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it just didn't work. They, they were going through
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a lot of transition from being a winning football
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team to not, you know, to whatever they, you
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know, were at the time coaching changes quarterback,
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you know, changes. So I get it. Um, yeah. So
22:35
looking To the Super Bowl without making picks.
22:41
I Tried to look at I've been looking at some
22:43
stats to say okay. How does this match up? You
22:45
know and and also been hearing some stuff talking
22:49
about oh Drake may had an easy path, you know
22:54
Sam Darnold Kind of kind of did too. I mean he
22:59
didn't have like like the Rams are really good
23:01
team. They're really good offense I even admitted
23:05
their defense not great They're pretty good.
23:08
The 49ers were decimated. So you could argue
23:13
that Sam Darnold, not Sam Darnold so much, but
23:15
the Seahawks had an easy path to the Super Bowl.
23:21
At the same time, they earned that easy path
23:23
because they were the one seed. You get home
23:24
field advantage. You get a buy. You only had
23:27
to play two games. So that's a part of the deal,
23:30
right? So that's not a knock on them. But RG
23:34
3 put out there about the Patriots They had three
23:38
games to get to the Super Bowl They played the
23:41
Chargers top five defense number five actually
23:44
the Texans the number one defense and the Broncos
23:48
the number two defense now Now they're now they're
23:53
faced with the Seahawks another top five defense
23:57
Right, and I don't have the exact number of where
24:00
they're at, but I know they're in the top five,
24:02
right? they're up there. So the interesting thing
24:06
is I actually, I actually thought the Seahawks
24:08
was, was the number one defense in the NFC. So
24:12
I think, I think he was making mentioning like
24:14
the, the defenses within the conferences, but,
24:19
but, but you're right. Either way, right? Yeah.
24:21
We know they kill the Seahawks. They're killers.
24:24
Yeah. I'm with you. But if, but if you look at,
24:27
if you match up and you look at their defense
24:29
yards per game, things like that, passing Russian
24:34
Both team Patriots Seahawks have pretty even
24:37
defenses Offenses pretty even too. It's it's
24:43
I mean, it's minimal right? Like yeah, yeah,
24:46
yeah slight one is slight white one You know
24:49
like Seattle defense is like slightly better
24:51
than New England, but they're right there I think
24:54
New England's offense is like slightly better
24:56
in Seattle. It's just like they're really tight
24:58
there, right? The special teams, Seattle is better.
25:06
Turnovers, New England is better. We talk about
25:09
Drake May has the fumbles. He likes to fumble,
25:13
but he doesn't lose, right? I think he doesn't
25:16
lose a lot of them. Where Sam Darnold, a lot
25:20
of interceptions, a lot of turnovers. Does that
25:22
come into play in this Superbowl, right? Because...
25:27
Darnold's considered the veteran and going to
25:28
be the veteran in the Super Bowl You know both
25:32
are you know high draft picks? Meant to you know
25:36
carry their teams obviously Darnold's now on
25:38
his fifth team so it's taking a while like we've
25:41
mentioned all the teams and all the eternal,
25:44
you know, he just had to find his spot and Right
25:47
now it's working. So I consider him the veteran
25:50
Obviously Drake mate. It's his second year But
25:53
I believe both will have the Super Bowl nerves.
25:58
It's really just a tough matchup at the moment
26:00
when you're looking at it. At the moment, and
26:04
I said, I'm glad we're not making picks right
26:06
now because I think I got to look into it a little
26:08
more. I am leaning one way, but I'm not going
26:14
to mention that. But I'm just saying, they're
26:15
pretty even matchups. It's an interesting Super
26:18
Bowl. I think the biggest thing that I think
26:21
we sent that to, I mean, it's crazy to think
26:24
that Sam Darnold, out of that draft class, made
26:28
it to a Super Bowl before Baker Mayfield, Josh
26:33
Allen, Lamar Jackson. That's crazy to me because
26:40
this Seattle team's good, but think about those
26:42
Buffalo Bill teams. Think about those Baltimore
26:44
Ravens teams. Hell even Baker had you know, a
26:49
few years of good Tampa Bay Buccaneers teams
26:51
So it's kind of crazy. It's just though. It's
26:54
a weird. It's a weird NFL season and this is
26:57
just kind of a part of it Yeah, and I Mean I
27:04
guess I could see that my my bigger thing and
27:09
just in terms of the matchup and and you're right
27:11
i'm leaning i know exactly who i'm going to pick
27:14
to go to the like i'm not going to say it but
27:16
i know who who i got when the super bowl went
27:19
to me it's super easy like it's not much of a
27:22
question um yeah we we'll dive into that another
27:25
episode but yeah the other thing is i think just
27:29
kind of like you said like in terms of the matchups
27:31
the defenses are are solid for both teams i'd
27:35
clearly i'd still give the edge to Seattle's
27:38
defense over New England's. But you know, you
27:42
still got two, you've got two quarterbacks that
27:45
you've got questions about. And the one thing
27:49
that was rampant this entire NFL season, there
27:52
was a lot of comeback wins for a lot of teams.
27:55
And I was actually looking into that. There was
27:58
one week, I think it was like the first week
28:00
in October where there were six double digit
28:05
comebacks. in one week in the NFL. And it's been
28:10
a lot of them. Like, it's been a lot of teams
28:12
down 12, teams down 13, teams down 17, and then
28:16
they end up losing. I mean, I'm sorry, end up
28:18
coming back to win it. Fourth quarter comebacks,
28:20
you know, they have a huge second half. And,
28:23
you know, we've seen that with a lot of teams
28:25
where it's like you come out of the locker room
28:27
at halftime. We know in the Super Bowl, really
28:32
long halftime, teams actually practice with the
28:36
long gap due to the halftime show. And the funny
28:42
thing is I think that that's gonna be, that the
28:47
double -digit comebacks are gonna be an outlier.
28:49
I think if a team goes up by 10, 12, I don't
28:52
care who they are, I think they trust their defenses
28:55
so much that no matter what, if you're Seattle,
28:58
you know what? Bring the house. Let's see what
29:02
the kids got. If you're the Patriots and you
29:05
go up by 13, bring the house. Let's see if Sam
29:09
Darnold, Sam Darnold. You know what I mean? And
29:12
just make it such a ugly, messy, nasty game.
29:17
And not even to the point where, not even to
29:20
the point where it's like you're getting sacks,
29:22
but you're just getting pressures and you're
29:23
making contact with them. You're just getting
29:25
them rattled. It's like, yeah, man, you just
29:27
got hit five times in a quarter in the Superbowl.
29:30
Get up, dust yourself off. What you gonna do?
29:32
You know, so to me that's kind of what stood
29:35
out the most to me Looking at the matchup on
29:38
paper. I think it's something interesting to
29:41
where if a team goes up I can see it getting
29:44
out of hand and It won't be a back -and -forth
29:48
type game. I want to say it may be reminiscent
29:51
to You know kind of Eagles Chiefs where it was
29:54
the same thing where it's like, oh, we know the
29:56
Chiefs Oh line isn't that great, but the Eagles
29:59
are like, you know what we're gonna go up And
30:01
now it's like we're going to unleash the Cooper
30:05
Dejean show and we just go start laying the wood
30:08
and start forcing the mistakes. And here goes
30:11
the interception. Oh, Kelsey's dropping passes.
30:14
There goes the fumble. I think that's what's
30:17
going to happen. But it really could go either
30:20
way if a team goes up big. And I think the score
30:24
could get out of hand pretty early, probably
30:26
leading into halftime. You say you think it can
30:31
get out of hand? I think if a team goes up by
30:34
double digits, I don't see them letting up. Because
30:38
that's another thing that happens. And you have
30:39
to understand, like in Super Bowls, typically
30:42
teams try to play it safe. Like you start running
30:45
the ball. I mean, just think about it. If the
30:47
Seahawks are having success, do you think they're
30:49
going to stop throwing the puka? You know what
30:52
I'm saying? I just don't see it. So just looking
30:59
at these, the two teams scheduled this year,
31:02
neither one got blown out. They're all, you know,
31:05
they have a combined six losses. They both are
31:07
14 and three. One just happened to get the one
31:10
seed. The other got the two in their respective
31:13
conferences, but they didn't get blown out. They're
31:17
all, their losses were within a score. So obviously
31:23
the Super Bowl, anything can happen. I would
31:26
put my money on if a team goes up, the first
31:29
team to go up by double digits. Is going to hold
31:33
on. And here's, and not even hold on, but I see
31:37
them pour. I got my foot on your neck. Yeah.
31:41
Pouring it out. Yeah. I try. Like I said, I try
31:44
to, I've been trying to match these teams up
31:47
and say, okay, well this, this team's quarterback
31:49
running back defense, this, that, and the other,
31:51
uh, you speak of that long halftime. Again, Mike
31:55
Vrabel, you know, he played in Super Bowls, so
31:59
he's all about that. He's going to know how to
32:00
coach the Patriots to get ready for that. That's
32:04
an advantage for them. Again, you know, again,
32:09
I mentioned special teams. I mean, if Shahid
32:12
breaks loose, that could be a game changer. That
32:14
could be something. That's really something to
32:16
watch out for. That's the thing about Seattle.
32:19
Again, they can just. If Sam Darnold don't Sam
32:23
Darnold. you know, they can really, you know,
32:27
get you, they can really beat you in every phase
32:29
of the game. And that's what is going to be really
32:32
important to watch. And again, turnovers again,
32:36
Sam Darnold turns the ball over, but I believe
32:38
the, the Seahawks defense has more turnovers
32:41
than the Patriots. So like I said, it's really
32:44
balanced. It's really close. Super balanced,
32:46
really close. And to your point, to your point,
32:49
that's what I mean about a team going up big.
32:52
You bring that pressure. Yeah. Cause you got
32:56
them in a position where they can't run the ball.
32:58
And if Drake Mase fumbles, like you mentioned
33:00
the fumbles, I mean, he's been, it's been grace
33:04
of God that he hasn't been losing those fumbles
33:06
and they've turned into turnovers. You can't
33:09
take those chances in the Superbowl. We talked
33:11
about Sam Darnold's turnover issues all year,
33:14
which is why people didn't have faith in him.
33:17
If the Patriots go up and they start bringing
33:18
that heat, And he starts making those flimsy
33:21
ass passes. Passes get tipped in the line of
33:23
scrimmage. He's getting hit on the release. That's
33:26
all I'm saying. I can just, that's just how I
33:28
see it. But I think it'll be a great game either
33:31
way. I don't think it's going to be a dud. Like
33:32
I think this is going to be a banger ass Super
33:34
Bowl we got. I really do. I really do too. And
33:37
like I said, just talking about the quarterbacks
33:39
again, if Drake May plays like he just did, which
33:42
people can say, oh, well he didn't play great.
33:44
And it's like, well the weather, whatever. And
33:46
he didn't play. He didn't play as great. Or as
33:50
good as he's been all season right to be most
33:52
likely the runner -up for the MVP But he didn't
33:57
turn the ball over. I don't even think he had
33:59
a moment where it was like Almost a turnover
34:02
right and in Denver against that defense even
34:05
in the weather Drake may protected the ball Way
34:09
better than he had in the previous two playoff
34:11
games, and then we talked about how great Sam
34:14
Darnold was so You know if you get those two
34:19
Where Sam Darnold is is playing like that Drake
34:23
may is not turning the ball over Yeah, I still
34:26
have the advantage on you know one way but still
34:29
it's just such a toss -up But you know, it's
34:34
gonna be I know Seattle wants to win in that
34:36
stadium because that's San Francisco so They'll
34:41
have a little motivation There's always motivation,
34:44
you know extra, you know find that extra motivation
34:46
to win uh but like you said no picks today just
34:50
um that'll probably that'll be coming next week
34:53
and uh we'll we'll narrow it down to an exact
34:57
pick yeah reasoning pick picks and scores yeah
35:01
oh yeah yeah because i'm ready like i said i
35:03
already got it i don't even have to put any thought
35:05
into it man i already got it unless something
35:06
changes unless something falls from the sky yeah
35:10
i mean like i said i'm leaning away Yeah, we
35:13
just don't want to give it out too early. I ain't
35:15
giving it out yet. We're going to give it out
35:17
Super Bowl week. Alright, what do you want? Uh
35:25
let's go to something else. A hot story. What
35:27
you got? Oh for me? Yeah. What do you what do
35:31
you want next? Which I mean I I mean I I mean
35:35
if if we want to talk about you know the The
35:39
we want to talk about the Pro Bowl spot that
35:43
should do this is earned if you want to go there
35:45
We go there. Yeah, let's talk about it Okay,
35:50
so I saw it came through the group chat. I didn't
35:52
know until it came through the group chat I've
35:57
you gave kind of some of your thoughts and opinions
36:00
on it Mine is all flames So but I am curious
36:05
to hear what it is you have to say and it's nothing
36:08
negative by the way So I'm just I'm more curious
36:11
what your insight on that is so so first a friend
36:15
of mine on Facebook Posted about this and I and
36:19
I'm not I'm not gonna quote it word -for -word.
36:21
I can't remember it word -for -word but it basically
36:24
said I wasn't planning on watching the Pro Bowl
36:29
and Then I saw the news that Shador Sanders was
36:32
selected to play Okay, now wait a minute. No,
36:35
wait a minute now now now I want you to keep
36:38
in mind when it hit the group chat Isn't that
36:40
exactly what I said? Yeah, and then he said Since
36:46
this is the news. I still don't plan on watching
36:49
the pro Which is my thoughts exactly so yeah,
36:56
so that's my thoughts it's like It was weird,
36:59
but I started looking at him thinking, well,
37:00
you know, like I said, guys, uh, they, they,
37:03
they choose not to play in it all the time. Now
37:06
they say, you know, they're like either had a
37:08
long playoff run, their body's tired. They don't
37:10
want, not even if it's flag football, they don't
37:11
want to play. And then I found out, you know,
37:14
they keep bringing up Trevor Lawrence. Well,
37:16
he chose not to go. Uh, you know, I also learned
37:18
in the pro bowl, they pick three and then they
37:20
have four alternates. Well, everybody's hurt
37:22
from Bo Nix to my homes to Daniel Jones. And
37:26
then Lawrence said, no. So you was kind of stuck
37:29
with Herbert and Alan and then you know, I started
37:33
looking at stats and we're like well statistically
37:36
And I don't know if they asked anybody else.
37:38
I just said, you know statistically like Who
37:41
else could they have asked besides Shador Sanders?
37:45
And again, by the way, we're fans of Shador me
37:48
and you both are It's just weird to see him be
37:51
picked for the Pro Bowl with his numbers and
37:54
being a rookie and so again, I look and I'm like
37:57
Aaron Rodgers had better numbers, better season.
38:01
Even CJ Stroud. Even rookie top pick Cam Ward
38:06
had better numbers. Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow.
38:10
Hell, I even put in Joe Flacco. And then I was
38:13
like, like I told y 'all, not good, but better
38:17
numbers. And I mean, we'd have still said something,
38:20
but if Geno Smith or Tua Tukavalo got a pick,
38:23
I think we'd have been like, well, it's not a
38:25
great pick, but I mean, you know. At least they
38:28
have more touchdowns and interceptions And again,
38:31
I'm not net. I don't like I said, I don't want
38:33
to sound negative but again when you're when
38:35
you're talking about something like this and
38:38
It matters it matters. It goes on you again.
38:42
It's like we talked about all -star game with
38:44
the with the NBA I mean Pro Bowl it goes on your
38:46
resume forever to say you are a pro bowler So
38:51
it says I think more about the Pro Bowl game
38:54
in the process and like we talked You know these
38:58
all -star games the process and it is an exhibition
39:01
it is for the fans And again, if that's the case
39:06
then obviously, you know haven't should order
39:08
there Bringing some energy to the to the flag
39:12
football game will will be fun Yeah, it will
39:17
and it'll definitely have more eyes I bet it
39:20
will be the high the one of the higher rated
39:22
Pro Bowls in recent years. I'm confident in saying
39:26
that. And, you know, to the point that you made
39:31
in terms of, you know, being a pro bowler and
39:32
it going on a resume, I am going to backtrack
39:35
a little bit to something that we talked about
39:36
the last episode when we were talking about the
39:39
NBA All -Star games and all that stuff. I think
39:43
the accolades have faded in terms of what are
39:47
the shiny golden achievements. of an athlete's
39:50
career, much like an all star appearance in the
39:54
NBA. Same thing has faded with Pro Bowl appearances
39:57
in the NFL. It just is what it is. The games
40:01
just aren't as important as they used to be.
40:03
The players for either sport don't take them
40:05
as seriously as they should. And the respect
40:08
that they used to get, they don't get from the
40:11
fans, the players, the organizations. No one
40:14
cares. So. it now he was made the all pro team
40:18
I think people would start flipping over tables
40:20
and chairs and we know that's not gonna happen
40:23
but you know but for him to get the Pro Bowl
40:26
nod like it's a it's a television event it's
40:28
a spectacle it's like you said it's a fan event
40:31
and he is a controversial quarterback for a lot
40:35
of reasons yeah that being said my perspective
40:41
on Shador Sanders making The Pro Bowl isn't doesn't
40:47
have anything to do with him actually being at
40:50
the Pro Bowl or participating in the Pro Bowl
40:53
Should door Sanders is was a other than him being
40:59
a late round quarterback pick He was very popular
41:08
as a player He was very popular in college He
41:16
had a lot of eyes on him. A lot of people were
41:19
shocked that he fell into draft the way that
41:21
he did. And the first thing he did is he gets
41:24
to Cleveland and he gets humbled by the league.
41:27
He gets humbled by the front office. He gets
41:29
humbled by the coaching staff to the point where
41:32
people were, I mean, doing full on. dissertations
41:39
and triptychs and science projects on why is
41:43
it that Shadoura Sanders isn't the starting quarterback
41:45
for the Cleveland Browns. Everyone kind of, the
41:50
perception was that the team didn't want him
41:54
to do well to the point where we know where he
41:57
got picked in the fifth round. And I mean, he's
42:01
getting the prank phone calls and all of that
42:03
saying he didn't pick it. You know, just all,
42:05
it was bad. But what I want to do is I want to
42:09
take everything that I just said about Shador
42:11
other than the fact that he was a fifth round
42:14
pick and I am going to mention him in the same
42:18
breath as a quarterback that is starting in the
42:21
Super Bowl in a couple of weeks and that's Sam
42:22
Darnold. Shador's track record is starting off
42:25
the same way Sam Darnold's did. Coaches don't
42:29
believe in you. Dude, you're not that good. We
42:32
don't think you can win in this league. to the
42:34
point where the dude's been shipped around and
42:37
moved around, stayed afoot, kept his head on
42:41
straight, stayed likable. As bad as a quarterback
42:46
as Sam Darnold has been, nobody said any bad
42:48
words about him as a player. I just went off
42:51
about how much that locker room loves Sam Darnold,
42:55
even through his mistakes and his, you know,
42:58
his potential inefficiencies. He's not a perfect
43:01
quarterback. But he found a way to make it to
43:06
a team in his first year with the Seahawks. And
43:09
yeah, he's riding a great defense, but you saw
43:12
those stats that dude put up a couple days ago.
43:16
Shador Sanders should be looking at Sam Dardorn
43:18
and say, you know what, man, I can do that. Let
43:20
me stay the track. Stop making it about everything
43:24
else that you're doing. This league will give
43:27
you opportunities if people like you. Now, I
43:32
don't think anybody has loved Sam Darnold. I
43:34
don't know all these people walking around with
43:37
Sam Darnold jerseys, but he wasn't hated either.
43:41
He wasn't hated. The only people who didn't believe
43:44
in him were the people whose jobs were on the
43:46
line, which were the coaches, which is the same
43:49
thing you could say about Shador. We could say
43:51
you're talking about, you know, Stefanski all
43:53
day. He felt like he would have had to hitch
43:56
his wagon to whether or not Shador was successful
43:59
or not. I think this is a huge, this should be
44:04
a gigantic sign for Shador because I'm not going
44:07
to go tit for tat and say who's more talented
44:09
as a quarterback. But I think the things that
44:12
Sam Darnold is doing is Shador was to stay on
44:16
the track and work hard and understand what it
44:19
is that it takes to be a starting franchise quarterback
44:22
in the NFL. He could do the same thing that Sam
44:25
Darnold did. but all the extra stuff has to go
44:29
out the window. Just go play ball, man. Go play
44:33
ball, make sure that that locker room loves you,
44:36
do what you can to get along with your coaches,
44:38
be coachable, and step outside of being Deion's
44:41
son. And you'll have an opportunity just like
44:44
this, but you gotta go out there and get it,
44:46
because we can say whatever we want to about
44:47
Sam Darnold, that dude earned this spot. He earned
44:51
what he's gonna represent, starting for the Seahawks
44:54
and the Super Bowl, he went out and got that
44:56
shit. Let's see if Shador has that in him because
44:59
I don't know if he does. Show me. Let me see
45:01
if you've got that in you. Yeah. And since you're
45:05
comparing and like, you know, a little bit of
45:08
the path that Shador is going to have to take,
45:11
I think it'll take Shador having to get out of
45:13
Cleveland too. I agree with you. And by the way,
45:16
if we're being honest with one another, he's
45:18
got what? Maybe one or two more years there.
45:20
It just depends. I mean, they're looking for
45:22
a head coach. They're still, they still haven't
45:24
hired one. It's not like the greatest job in
45:29
the world because it is the Browns So I don't
45:33
know that they're getting the the best of the
45:35
best candidates coming in I've read where some
45:39
guys have turned it down and know, it is what
45:43
it is. They are what they are. They operate the
45:45
way they operate. So, hey, hey, hey, hey, if
45:48
you want to make these correlations, this is
45:50
really too easy. If you want to, if you want
45:52
to name the two worst franchises in the NFL,
45:55
who are you going to name? You're going to name
45:56
the Browns and the Jets. It's the Browns and
45:59
the Jets. That's what I'm saying. Like, that's
46:00
why the correlations are there. Yeah, they're
46:03
both doodoo. So, and we know that and we, you
46:06
know, I sent the text today and you know about
46:08
Aaron Glenn has fired seven assistants. Because
46:12
all his coaching staff is the blame that they
46:15
suck this year. So yeah, you know, yeah everybody
46:18
else Yeah, it's always the thing. I was like
46:20
I was like so, you know, it's just I'm not gonna
46:23
go on a rant on this It was just funny that one
46:25
he kept his job and that's cool Even though they
46:28
were just the worst team in the NFL besides the
46:31
Raiders Who fired their head coach for being
46:34
bad after one season? But it's funny like you
46:38
normally see coaches point the finger right the
46:40
bit I'm gonna get rid of this coordinator or
46:43
this guy right because that was the problem which
46:46
he did that during the season when he fired Steve
46:49
Wilkes the defensive coordinator and then in
46:52
the offseason he continues to fire just everybody
46:55
I'm like So the guys you hired like almost your
47:00
entire coaching staff with a problem, but you
47:02
didn't have a hand in it I I got you But the
47:05
Jets are going to Jets, the Browns are going
47:08
to Browns. And like I said, I think if you said
47:11
if Shador is going to make that step to be like
47:13
a Sam Darnold, even a even a Baker Mayfield who
47:16
made it out of Cleveland, right, and got kicked
47:18
around a little bit before he found success,
47:20
not to the Super Bowl success. But like you said,
47:23
I think that's another good, you know, another
47:26
good example of Shador following the footsteps
47:29
of like a Baker Mayfield who just keep your head
47:31
down, keep playing, you know. If you change coaches,
47:36
coordinators, just keep doing you work hard.
47:40
Again, get rid of the other stuff. Like you said,
47:43
everybody likes Sam Darnold. I think he's a likable
47:46
guy. I don't think he's ever given, he just gave
47:48
us the quote that he was seeing ghost. And I
47:51
brought that up because he's playing the Patriots
47:52
and that was the team he was seeing ghost against.
47:56
So, he's overcome all that. And yeah, I think
47:59
Shador, like I said, his path I think would not
48:01
come in Cleveland. unless they hired Deion Sanders
48:07
as their head coach. That would just make them
48:09
more interesting to me. But yeah, I think it'll
48:13
have to happen somewhere else and he'll have
48:16
to find his right fit, right coach, right team,
48:19
right system to do that. But like you said, just
48:23
work hard. Well, there's one simple thing that
48:27
Shador could do and he could just follow in the
48:29
footsteps of those that came before him. The
48:32
only thing he needs to do to have a like a resurgence
48:35
and a successful career. is to promptly leave
48:38
the Cleveland Browns and sign his contract with
48:40
the Carolina Panthers because that's that's what
48:42
happened with Sam Darnold and that's what happened
48:44
with Baker Mayfield. So so if he just if he if
48:48
he becomes and I don't know what's going to happen
48:49
with Bryce Young who knows he had a great year
48:51
this year but you know that seems to be the ticket
48:54
it's like hey man leave your terrible team and
48:56
come sign with the Panthers and then after that
48:58
you'll get some success. So they will bring you
49:01
into a winner. They'll turn you into a winner
49:03
after you leave. Just for somebody else. Yeah,
49:07
for somebody else. Yeah. And Tepper won't be
49:09
able to reap the benefits of that. But yeah,
49:11
man, I just, I want to see the kid do well. You
49:14
know, personality matters in the NFL and you
49:18
know, you just don't see a lot of outwardly cocky,
49:21
arrogant quarterbacks that make it is not a lot
49:24
of them. And there's a reason for that because
49:26
the league will humble you. I've said that before.
49:28
So hopefully Shandor keeps his head on straight.
49:31
Keeps working and gets better and I do think
49:33
he'll naturally get better as he understands
49:36
He'll probably have a slump this year because
49:37
most quarterback sophomore slumps it happens
49:40
and we saw that with um We saw that in Washington
49:42
this year Where it's like your quarterbacks are
49:45
gonna have issues in the second year when people
49:46
start to figure you out But you know stay consistent
49:51
Yeah, work hard. We'll see what happens for him.
49:54
But yeah if his agent gives him a call and say,
49:57
Hey man, the Panthers are looking at picking
49:58
you up. I think he should sign that without even
50:01
looking at the numbers. All right. So let's go
50:10
to one more topic. One hits home for us because
50:14
we're patiently waiting. Do you have any takes
50:19
or thoughts on the Philadelphia Eagles not being
50:22
able to hire offensive coordinator yet? Like
50:25
13 candidates. That's a lot for an OC job. So
50:29
I think there's a lot of things that come into
50:32
play. I think so there and I'll rattle them off.
50:36
I'm not going to sit here and break everything
50:37
down. There's culture fit, meaning culture fit
50:41
within the organization in the front office.
50:43
There's culture fit with with Sirianni as a head
50:46
coach. Again, he's a he's a firecracker, man.
50:51
He's not for everybody. But, you know, the guy
50:53
the guy wins games. There's also the trickiness
50:57
of Jalen Hurts being your starting quarterback.
51:00
We don't know what's going to happen with AJ
51:02
Brown. There's a lot of things that are just
51:04
kind of question marks. And I actually give them
51:07
credit for waiting to see who is the best fit
51:12
for how the season is going to pan out coming
51:17
next year. We want the good name. We want the
51:22
nice name. I mean, Mike McDaniel would have been
51:24
great hire. I don't think anybody would have
51:27
scoffed at that. We know he can call offenses,
51:29
but I don't know what it is specifically that
51:34
they're looking at. Going through all the candidates
51:35
doesn't really alarm me. To me, it just shows
51:38
that they're actually going through their due
51:39
diligence and they're trying to find somebody
51:41
that's a good fit because you could have just
51:43
thrown some money at anybody. and just giving
51:45
them, you know, and just giving them a job. We
51:49
know that Hertz has had what, what is it? Six
51:52
OCs, seven OCs since college. Like, I'm sorry,
51:56
including college. Like every year he has to
51:58
learn a new offensive system. He's getting his
52:00
place called from someone new. There, there's
52:04
options for him. I think he should step into
52:08
the room and say, guys, you guys got to give
52:10
me some stability here. I understand this is
52:12
the game. and you know they let Kellen Moore
52:15
go you know if I was them I would have done whatever
52:18
I could to keep Kellen Moore in that building
52:20
like we saw the success that he had and clearly
52:22
he's going to do some good things in New Orleans
52:24
but I'm not at I'm not going to point the finger
52:28
at anybody I'm not that rattled by it I think
52:31
they're taking their time trying to make the
52:33
right decision and it doesn't it doesn't bother
52:36
me as much as it bothers you honestly I think
52:38
I think you just want it to be over I think you
52:40
just want to know who it is so that you can sleep
52:42
better at night? Well, well, that and you know,
52:46
when your team gets knocked out of the playoffs,
52:48
it's like, okay, what's next for us? You know
52:51
what I mean? Like I'm on to like, I'm still watching
52:54
the playoffs and the Superbowl and all that.
52:56
And obviously have our takes, but obviously as
52:59
an Eagles fan waiting on what's next for our
53:01
team. But it's only been a couple of weeks, but
53:03
it's only been a couple. It's not, it's not April.
53:07
Yeah, but you know, I'm just patiently waiting,
53:10
man. I just wanna know who's gonna be running
53:12
this offense, which I told someone, I'm like,
53:17
if they've ever called plays or been an offensive
53:20
coordinator, they're already better than Kevin
53:23
Petula, because they know how to call plays,
53:26
they've done the job. So anybody to me has done
53:29
it at an NFL level, I'm okay with, actually.
53:35
But like you said you brought up, you know, I
53:36
think Sirianni is a big Part of it of the you
53:41
know, what does the OC what can he control? What
53:44
can he not you mentioned Kellen Moore? I mean
53:47
he got a head coaching job. You can't fault him
53:48
there same thing happened with Shane Steichen
53:52
So I think also Sirianni is trying to like you
53:56
said the team but I think Sirianni because this
53:59
is now the second time that they've had to go
54:02
through this where Again, he promoted a guy.
54:04
It didn't work out and you got to get it right.
54:06
And he did get it right with Kellen Moore. They
54:08
won a Super Bowl. But now it's happened again.
54:10
So let's do this. I'm just going to put you on
54:13
the spot. And because I know we're running low
54:16
on time and give me who do you want them to get?
54:21
Give me the name. Give me the name. Well, I'm
54:23
saying the guy you want. Well, originally, I
54:26
said Brian Dayball, but now he's going to be
54:29
OC in Tennessee. Which is weird. Well, right
54:31
now, so realistically, of who's available, who
54:34
do you want? I don't even know. Out of the names
54:40
that have come out lately? I mean, the Broncos
54:43
just fired Joe Lombardi. You want Joe Lombardi?
54:46
OK, I mean, do you want Jim Leonard? Out of the
54:53
names that are out there now that haven't turned
54:56
us down or back down or whatever the case, right?
55:01
I mean, for fun, it would be fun to always say
55:03
Jim Bob Cooper, but such a great name, but such
55:09
a good name and I think he, you know, but you
55:11
know, and if they hire him, that's fine. Like
55:13
he's been an offensive coordinator in this league
55:15
and you give him the talent that the Eagles have.
55:18
I think he'll do fine. Matt Nagy, I think is
55:21
top of my list and I know I've heard about Well,
55:25
the Chiefs offense this that and the other look
55:28
he was on that staff for two Super Bowls He coached
55:31
the Chicago Bears. He wasn't that bad with the
55:34
Bears, right? He wasn't great, but he wasn't
55:36
bad. I think it went in record so He knows how
55:41
to coach again. He had Patrick Mahomes He had
55:43
that team with the Chiefs as an OC involved in
55:47
the offense. I think Matt Nagy would be great
55:50
Again all the stuff, you know, you hear like
55:52
the there's like issues also with I'm giving
55:55
that's my name Matt Nagy But I want to get back
55:57
to like Jeff Stoutland the offensive line coach
55:59
They say he's involved in the run game and they
56:01
don't want to he won't give that up And you brought
56:03
up Jalen hurts. I don't want to listen to anything
56:06
about the everybody these people talking about
56:08
Jalen hurts That these guys don't want to work
56:10
with Jalen hurts Right, like we've mentioned
56:14
before Go look at his resume. Go look at what
56:17
he's done you know the It's amazing, right? Like
56:21
we talk about if Jalen Hurts would have played
56:24
like some of these guys in the playoffs recently,
56:26
the criticism he would have got. Again, we've
56:29
seen him playing two Super Bowls. We've seen
56:32
him ball out in two Super Bowls, one in which
56:34
he won. He was the MVP. You could argue he was
56:37
the MVP and the one he lost. Again, he can throw
56:41
downfield. He can do what he can do. Get an offensive
56:45
coordinator that knows how to call plays. Look
56:47
at those plays the Seahawks were drawing up.
56:50
They were drawing up plays the other night that
56:53
it didn't involve like super great route running.
56:57
It was like a diversion route where the defense
57:01
didn't know who to cover and one guy ended up
57:03
wide open. That's the kind of stuff we need,
57:05
not for verticals. So again, I'm okay with anybody
57:08
who has called offense. I'm not, I'm not, I'm
57:11
not too big on guys who are like quarterback
57:13
coaches and things like that, right? They're
57:15
interviewing guys like that. No, give me a guy
57:17
who's been an offensive coordinator in this league.
57:19
And I promise you, he will be better than Kevin
57:21
Patula. Okay. So, and this is what you got to
57:24
understand. And I asked you this, I asked you
57:27
who you wanted for a specific reason. I did.
57:30
I put you in a corner here on purpose. You have
57:33
to understand that if you get somebody and they
57:37
have success, chances are they're gone in a year
57:40
anyway. That's okay. So, I'm going to give you
57:43
a name because I got a name and I'm shocked you
57:46
haven't mentioned it yet. What about Cliff Kingsbury?
57:50
Okay. What is he doing though? Right? I think
57:55
I don't know what he's doing. I heard his name
57:57
early. My question is, do you want Cliff Kingsbury
58:00
as your OC? Would you want him as your OC? Yes.
58:04
No, I mean, and I like that. But here's the thing.
58:07
I mean, I don't care if they leave after a year.
58:10
If they get you, help you make the Super Bowl,
58:13
win the Super Bowl, have success, and look like
58:15
you know how to play football in an NFL office.
58:18
That's all I need. All right. No, I mean, it's
58:21
all right. Like I said, it's just taking a while.
58:23
I think Siriano is trying to get it right so
58:25
he don't get fired. okay yeah i mean you know
58:27
i i like kingsbury but if he has any success
58:31
at all someone will give him a head coaching
58:33
job next year and they just haven't interviewed
58:37
him that's all i i didn't mention him because
58:38
he hasn't been on the list of people they've
58:41
got it no and that's fair yeah but yeah for sure
58:43
bob cooter's a great name i love saying it too
58:46
yeah yeah that's just and and you know real quick
58:50
they should call byron lefwich and give him an
58:52
interview too wow yeah i know that i i agree
58:56
there's no reason that uh you know, he won a
58:59
Super Bowl in Tampa and then got fired the next
59:01
year. So and hasn't worked since in the NFL.
59:04
That's that's ridiculous. Yeah and and and that's
59:06
the thing and and it was there was a lot of things
59:09
that were said about him too. Just kind of even
59:12
even with all the winning. I don't get it. No.
59:15
So, at least give him an interview but anyway,
59:18
anybody that's done it before I'll take um yeah.
59:21
So, that's that's our little We like to dive
59:25
into our team every now and then. But also, it's
59:28
a big story in NFL. I mean, they said they are
59:31
kind of interviewing a lot of people, and everybody's
59:33
trying to wonder why. All right. Well, that is
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