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S2 E20 _ Midday Missing _ Lisa Irwin & Jesus Carlos Quinones-Flores _ Missing in Kansas & Missouri · True Crime and Wine Time

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  Speaker 1: get into why we're here. Okay. Today we are going
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  Speaker 1: to travel to Kansas and Missouri. Guys, E live in Texas.
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  Speaker 1: I've been the both of these great states, and I
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  Speaker 1: love everything about them. And I have forgiven Kansas because
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  Speaker 1: it's not their fault. The Max husband is from there. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I did enjoy my time there when we would go
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  Speaker 1: visit his family. But I will say not a fan
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  Speaker 1: of all their tornadoes. They get way more than we
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  Speaker 1: do here in Texas. Not a fan of that. But
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  Speaker 1: let's get started with today, okay. Now, Kansas sits in
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  Speaker 1: the heart of the American Midwest and is often known
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  Speaker 1: for its wide open prairie, agricultural roots, and historic role
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  Speaker 1: in westward expansion. Now, one common point of confusion involves
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  Speaker 1: Kansas City. Many people assume Kansas City is located in Kansas.
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  Speaker 1: But guys, there is a Kansas City, Kansas, but the
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  Speaker 1: more known is Kansas City, Missouri. Okay. And what's interesting
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  Speaker 1: is Kansas City, Kansas. It's directly across the state line.
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  Speaker 1: So the two these are actually part of the same
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  Speaker 1: metropolitan area, but they are in different states, which leads
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  Speaker 1: to people getting confused, even people like me. So in Kansas,
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  Speaker 1: the Kansas Bear of Investigation currently lists five hundred and
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  Speaker 1: two active missing person cases, with one hundred and thirty
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  Speaker 1: six of them being juveniles. What that's too many? Okay?
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  Speaker 1: In Missouri shows six hundred and five missing adults and
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  Speaker 1: five hundred missing juveniles. Guys, I am hoping that that
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  Speaker 1: data somehow is a typo because that's a lot of kids,
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  Speaker 1: lots of kids, lots of kids, and I don't like
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  Speaker 1: that at all. Okay, our first case, Oh, look at
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  Speaker 1: this sweet baby. Lisa and I are inch just ten
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  Speaker 1: months old when she vanished from her home in Kansas City, Missouri.
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  Speaker 1: She was born November eleventh, twenty ten. Lisa was a
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  Speaker 1: white female with blonde hair and blue eyes. Feet six
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  Speaker 1: inches tall and weighed about thirty pounds at the time
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  Speaker 1: of her disappearance. Now, Lisa had a birthmark on her
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  Speaker 1: right outer thigh, two bottle teeth that had just popped out,
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  Speaker 1: and she had a small bug bite under her left ear.
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  Speaker 1: Her nickname was Pumpkin Pie, and when she was last seen,
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  Speaker 1: she was wearing purple sports and a shirt decorated with
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  Speaker 1: images of white kittens. Guys, this breaks my heart even more.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, pumpkin pie for a nip nip?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, And she was wearing white kittens on
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  Speaker 1: her outfit. Okay. Now, Lisa was lasting at her home
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  Speaker 1: in the thirty six hundred block of Avenue in Kansas City, Missouri,
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  Speaker 1: on October third, twenty eleven. That evening, her mother, Deborah Bradley,
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  Speaker 1: put her to bed in her with her past fire
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  Speaker 1: and blanket and some toys. Deborah later stated that she
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  Speaker 1: saw Lisa at either six forty or ten thirty PM.
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  Speaker 1: Counts everywhere I look and differed on the exact time.
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  Speaker 1: That night. Deborah was also caring for Lisa's two older
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  Speaker 1: half brothers, who are asleep in the other room. Deborah
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  Speaker 1: later admitted she had been drinking wine that evening and
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  Speaker 1: she had become intoxicated, and she was drinking and taking
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  Speaker 1: prescription medication for anxiety. Probably why she can't tell us
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  Speaker 1: the exact time, okay. Lisa's father, Jeremy Irwin, was an electrician.
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  Speaker 1: He returned home from work at about four am on
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  Speaker 1: October fourth. At that time, Lisa was discovered missing. Okay, guys,
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  Speaker 1: stop and think about that. Can you imagine coming home
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  Speaker 1: from work four am, going in to make sure all
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  Speaker 1: of your little ones are tucked in and safe, and
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  Speaker 1: your baby's gone. I can't. I can't even imagine it now.
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  Speaker 1: According to the family, several lights inside the home were on,
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  Speaker 1: Lisa's room window was open, the front door was unlocked.
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  Speaker 1: People locked your doors, lock your doors and windows, and
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  Speaker 1: three cellular phones were missing. I don't know why they
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  Speaker 1: had three phones. They could have been old phones just
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  Speaker 1: not be in use now. Lisa's parents, Dear Debordge called
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  Speaker 1: nine one one shortly after he got home and realized
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  Speaker 1: she wasn't there. They reported her missing now. An extensive
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  Speaker 1: search of the surrounding area began immediately, but guys investigators
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  Speaker 1: found no trace of the infant. During the investigation, authority
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  Speaker 1: stated that Lisa's parents were less than cooperative with an investigators,
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  Speaker 1: something Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin denied. At the time
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  Speaker 1: of Lisa's disappearance, the couple were engaged to be married. Deborah, however,
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  Speaker 1: was still legally married to a married another man, but
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  Speaker 1: they had been separated for four years. She had a
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  Speaker 1: six year old son with him and he was serving
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  Speaker 1: in the army. Desper's husband stated that he did not
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  Speaker 1: believe Deborah would have harmed Lisa or have been involved
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  Speaker 1: in her disappearance. Guys, to me, that says a lot,
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  Speaker 1: because here they're separated, they're getting divorced, she's had a baby,
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  Speaker 1: bust somebody else, she's engaged. Perfect time to bash your
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  Speaker 1: ex right now. Three different witnesses reported seeing a man
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  Speaker 1: walking down the road amongst approximately three miles from Lesea's
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  Speaker 1: home around four in the morning. The man was carrying
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  Speaker 1: a baby dressed only in a diaper. Has never been
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  Speaker 1: confirmed whether these settings were connected to Lisa's disappearance. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna need you to second because I got questions.
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  Speaker 1: This is twenty eleven, Okay, it's twenty twenty six. How
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  Speaker 1: could a man walking at four a m with a
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  Speaker 1: baby when a baby just went missing three miles away?
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  Speaker 1: Has it been confirmed or proven to be false? After
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  Speaker 1: all these years, I'm telling myself that law enforcement just
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  Speaker 1: hasn't come out and said, oh, yeah, that was another guy.
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  Speaker 1: Because how many men are walking down street with a
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  Speaker 1: baby at four am? How many? I need to know
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  Speaker 1: because I would have thought that by putting that out there,
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  Speaker 1: that person would have come forward and said, Hey, it
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  Speaker 1: was me. I was just gone down to the corner
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  Speaker 1: store of the bodego whatever you call it, because I
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  Speaker 1: needed to get up or I needed to get formula.
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  Speaker 1: I was out of diapers. How has there been no
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  Speaker 1: other update? Okay, I'm sorry, I just I need to know, Okay. Now.
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  Speaker 1: On October nineteenth, twenty eleven, investigators executed a search warrant
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  Speaker 1: at the court. Documents later revealed that a Kuldaver dog
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  Speaker 1: indicated the scent of a dead body near Deborah's bed
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  Speaker 1: that could possibly have been Lisa. So indicate doday have
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  Speaker 1: any reason to explain that. I couldn't find any other
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  Speaker 1: explanation than that. Now. During that search, authorities removed several
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  Speaker 1: items from the home, including a multicolor comforter, purple shorts,
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  Speaker 1: a multicolored Disney character shirt, a glow worm toy. Do
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  Speaker 1: you remember glowworms? Oh my gosh, my boys had them,
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  Speaker 1: a Car's themed blanket, rolls of tape, and a tape dispenser. Okay, guys,
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  Speaker 1: I don't find that odd because they could to my house.
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  Speaker 1: I have lots of rolls of tape. During an interview
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  Speaker 1: with The Associated Prow, Deborah Bradley stated that police had
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  Speaker 1: accused her of being involved in Lisa's disappearance. She said
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  Speaker 1: investigators told her you did it, you did it, and
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  Speaker 1: we have nothing. They claimed she felt a lied detector test. Okay, now, guys,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you, as somebody who's in the
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  Speaker 1: true crime world, that is a common tactic they are
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  Speaker 1: trying to spontaneously to confess. Do I always agree with it? No,
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  Speaker 1: but doing it because first of all, you're the mother
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  Speaker 1: at home with the child. Okay, that's why. Now. Deborah
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  Speaker 1: and Jeremy did later announce that they were organizing a
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  Speaker 1: reward and hopes that it would generate new information. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Jeremy and Deborah even appeared on the Today Show. Okay
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  Speaker 1: with Jeremy, we just want to make sure that we
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  Speaker 1: tell everybody that we are still cooperating. We're still talking
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  Speaker 1: to the police. We are doing everything we can to
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  Speaker 1: try to find Lisa and bring her home. So in
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  Speaker 1: October twenty eleven, the family reported that an anonymous benefactor
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  Speaker 1: had hired a private investigator and issued a one hundred
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars reward for Lisa's return. Guys, that's a big
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  Speaker 1: freaking deal. Okay. Now, Lisa's half brothers had been scheduled
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  Speaker 1: to provide DNA samples and participate in interviews interviews with investigators.
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  Speaker 1: Let those investigators say the parents canceled the interviews the
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  Speaker 1: night before. Investigators also said that parents denied them access
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  Speaker 1: to the boys. However, Guys, the children were later Intervember tenth,
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  Speaker 1: twenty eleven, okay, and a police request for warrant later
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  Speaker 1: stated that inconsistent stories from individuals involved in the case
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  Speaker 1: may have hampered the early stages of investigat Now, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna be honest and say, I don't know why they
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  Speaker 1: need a DNA from the boy. Couldn't they have just
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  Speaker 1: gotten it from the dad. They're Lisa's half brothers. Only
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  Speaker 1: the dad do they have in common? So instead of
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  Speaker 1: making kids gift DNA, couldn't they have just done the dads?
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  Speaker 1: So here's something kind of interesting. In May twenty twelve,
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  Speaker 1: Deborah Bradley and Jeremy are When reported that their debit
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  Speaker 1: card had been fraudularly website that provides false birth certificates. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't find their debit card had ever been stolen,
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  Speaker 1: so that I found interesting. Now the Today Show in
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  Speaker 1: America Life confirmed that the website existed. Okay, but I
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  Speaker 1: still am like, did they get your debit card? Was
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  Speaker 1: it somebody close to the family? I got questions? Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Police have said that the investigation remains ongoing and they
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  Speaker 1: believe don't be alive. Okay. In October twenty thirteen, and
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  Speaker 1: authorities investigated a lead after a girl believed to possibly
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  Speaker 1: be Lisa was discovered living in a Romania camp in Greece. However,
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  Speaker 1: after looking into this, they determined that child was not Lisa.
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  Speaker 1: No suspects have been officially named in Lisa Rene Irwin's disappearance.
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  Speaker 1: Our parents have stated they believe she was abducted home
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  Speaker 1: sometime late on October third or early on October fourth,
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  Speaker 1: possibly right after midnight, by someone who wanted to raise
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  Speaker 1: a baby more than a I mean guys. More than
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  Speaker 1: a decade later, this case still remains unsolved. Anyone with
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  Speaker 1: information about Lisa Rene Orwin's disappearance is asked to contact
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  Speaker 1: the Kansas City Police Department at eight one six four
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  Speaker 1: seven four eight four seven seven. Also, please be sure
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  Speaker 1: to go to our Facebook page midday missing where a
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  Speaker 1: poster will drop of Lisa that also has the age
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  Speaker 1: progressed photo on it. Share that let's get it out there, okay.
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  Speaker 1: And it's cases like these guys that make me happy
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  Speaker 1: that we have DNA Okay, because just Lisa will take
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  Speaker 1: a DNA test as an adult if she's still alive,
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  Speaker 1: and then she'll hopefully figure out that she is baby
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  Speaker 1: Lisa and she's not who she's being raised to think
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  Speaker 1: she is. Okay. That brings me a lot of hope
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  Speaker 1: because I can't imagine what her family has gone through
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  Speaker 1: and is still going through, or what Lisa has gone
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  Speaker 1: through or is going through. Okay, It's enough to make
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  Speaker 1: me hopeful that at least that will help break the case. Okay. Now,
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  Speaker 1: before I get into the second case, I just want
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  Speaker 1: to say, in case anyone from James Cole's family sees this.
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  Speaker 1: We originally we're going to cover James Cole as our
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  Speaker 1: second case. Today he is no longer listed as missing
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  Speaker 1: because I was out after having surgery. I did not
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  Speaker 1: get all of that. I saw it, but it just
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  Speaker 1: didn't register. I just made that change this morning. So
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  Speaker 1: social media's did go up for a short time with
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  Speaker 1: the wrong information. So I just wanted to quickly say
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  Speaker 1: that before we get into our next case. Okay, our
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  Speaker 1: next case is Jesus Carlos Quinos Flores. I think I did, okay,
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  Speaker 1: who is twenty nine years old when he disappeared on
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  Speaker 1: September fourteenth, twenty ten, from Topeka, Kansas. I have been there.
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  Speaker 1: He is described as a Hispanic male. He's about five
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  Speaker 1: foot singstons just tall, weighs about one hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 1: five pounds, with black hair and brown eyes. The day
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  Speaker 1: he vanished, Jesus left Topeka driving a gray nineteen ninety
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  Speaker 1: seven Dodge Caravan with temporary Kansas license plates. He was
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  Speaker 1: headed to Mexico, where his wife lived. He was not
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  Speaker 1: traveling alone. Another individual was making the trip as well,
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  Speaker 1: but they were driving a separate vehicle. Now, according to reports,
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  Speaker 1: this person regularly traveled between the United States and Mexico,
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  Speaker 1: transporting items like clothing, furniture, and money for family members. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: two boxes had even been placed inside Hayesu's van for
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  Speaker 1: that trip. But guys, he never made it to Mexico.
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  Speaker 1: He never made it to see his wife. He's never
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  Speaker 1: been seen again, and there has been no nothing, nothing. Okay. Now,
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  Speaker 1: his wife in Mexico stated that she believes he has deceased,
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  Speaker 1: and she said she did not wish to receive updates
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  Speaker 1: on the case, which I found interesting, not saying she's involved.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody handles stuff like this trauma differently. It's just the
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  Speaker 1: first time I've heard that. So when I say it's interesting,
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  Speaker 1: it's not good interesting or that interesting. Now, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: his disappearance remained solved, and there's a lot of questions
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  Speaker 1: around what happened. So if you have any information about
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  Speaker 1: the disappearance of Jesus Carlos Quininus Flores, please call the
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  Speaker 1: know they're not alone. So see you next week, guys.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: He present to that fam