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Mental Health in Comedy: What Life on Tour Really Looks Like with Marc-Anthony Sinagoga · Recovering Out Loud

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  And we're back live with recovering out loud.
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  Fuck, you're busy, eh? What do you mean?
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  Like I've looked at. So I opened my phone and I see
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  your beautiful face. By the way, I love your espresso
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  videos. They're.
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  Oh, thank you. They fucking crack me up.
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  Appreciate that makes me use with my charm, yeah.
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  Makes me have more espresso though, so fuck you for that,
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  no? That's no it's so good you can
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  never have enough. I agree.
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  I agree. But so I opened up my phone this
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  morning, I saw your beautiful face.
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  And you were in Montreal last night.
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  Yeah, in front of a sold out crowd.
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  A week before that, you were in Disneyland.
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  Yeah, Disney World. Sorry.
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  What's the difference again? Orlando, LA.
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  That's a pretty big difference. It's a huge difference.
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  Yeah, I'm like pretending it's. Not in terms of the heat.
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  It's the worst, yeah. Yeah, I saw your beautiful face
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  sweating. Oh my God, dude.
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  Jesus. OK, that's better.
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  Sorry. I don't like hearing my voice
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  too loud. Yeah, I saw your beautiful face.
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  And so you're a busy guy. I, you know, I asked you to do
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  this. And we had this booked for a
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  while. And I was like, I'm going to be
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  honest. I was like, man, he looks.
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  I wouldn't even be mad if he said no.
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  So I appreciate it. And thanks so much for coming
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  on. Of course, man, anytime.
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  So I. Appreciate the the praise.
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  The busier the better, dude. Or else I fucking start eating
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  more than what I do. You know?
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  You get too, you know, then you just like things slow down too
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  much and then you feel like you gotta work even harder to get it
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  going. You know what I mean?
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  And then I feel like for for me. So I'm newly getting into this.
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  I hate this word but like creator space I will never use
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  the word influencer because that word drives me nuts and I hope
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  I'm not influencing anybody in this world.
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  Do not live like me. You do, though.
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  It's crazy, yeah. Yeah, I mean, like, yeah.
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  And I, I always hope that somebody watches something that
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  I put out one day. And it was like, huh, I never
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  thought about it like that. Because that's what social media
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  does for me when I'm like, I'm gonna try that in my life today.
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  And specifically with addiction and mental health.
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  I I came in here, I had to be, came into recovery.
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  I mean, like I had to be willing because my life was such a shit
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  show that I was just wrong on so many things.
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  So it's like OK, I need answers now.
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  Yeah, and that's the problem where like so many people, just
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  the term influencer, it's like this is the world we live in,
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  dude. Like everyone's on their phones.
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  Everyone's trying to make someone buy something or make
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  someone do something, in my case, laugh or whatever, and
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  guide them somewhere, you know, mine's ticket sales, see me
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  live, whatever. O it's kind of justice.
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  Like, you know what people, I feel like people get just
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  jealous when they do that. Yeah.
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  And they're just like, bro, you're an influencer.
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  You're a fucking loser. Yeah.
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  It's like, well, it's a living for me now.
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  Like, what do you, you know what I mean?
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  Like, what do you want me to do? Not succeed?
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  Is that the plan? Yeah, You know what I mean?
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  Yeah. Well, no.
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  Well, for you, it's different, bro.
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  Like, you know what I mean? Like you have to because it's
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  part of your thing. But like, fuck, I could never
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  fuck that. I could never do it.
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  And then you start talking to them and you're like, yeah, you
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  could totally. Do you think so, man?
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  You think I could do that? You know, that'd be fucking
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  sick. And you're like, yeah, OK.
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  You just don't want to do it, that's all.
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  Yeah. Or you don't like seeing people,
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  right? That's the other thing I'm
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  really, really realizing. I heard a podcast yesterday
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  where someone was like Alex from Mosey, Of course.
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  Yeah, he's he's great. He was talking about how here.
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  You go, Alex, from Rosie. Let's go.
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  Yeah, let me get my thighs out for her, Mosey.
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  You need to, he's like, you need to have people in your life that
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  have that have bigger dreams for you than you do, right.
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  And it's true. Like the people I surround
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  myself with today are like, oh, yeah, you could do that.
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  Yeah, do it. Like you could grow the podcast.
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  Why not? Why not you?
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  Why not you? You could be fucking Joe Rogan.
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  Why not? You know, why not?
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  And. You know what, dude, there's so
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  many people being Italian like us.
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  We, there's so much in our culture that's very limiting in
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  terms of being successful. There is a lot of Italians that
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  are like, well, no, you can't be, you can't be Joe Rogan.
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  Like that's crazy. Like, you know what I mean?
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  Or like, you know you what? You're gonna charge that much
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  money for this? Like, that's ridiculous.
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  Like that. That's way too much.
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  And what are you thinking? But then you hang out with other
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  people who are in the space and know the game and they're like,
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  buddy, you should be charging 10 times the one that you're
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  charging, you know what I mean? And then you go back and say
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  that to like, let's say your dad or your mom or fuck, God forbid.
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  You're not. No, they're like, are you out of
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  your mind, dude? Like that's insane.
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  No one's going to buy that. No, like, they just don't.
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  You can't talk to people who don't get it, you know what I
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  mean? You just don't get what you're
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  doing. No, it's a good point.
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  And so you're a stand up comic, you How long you been doing it?
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  For 12, My entire life. Legit since I was like 20 so 34
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  so. 13 years. 14 years dude, I was saying this to my wife this
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  morning and I truly mean this what I'm about to say.
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  I'm not just blowing smoke up your ass.
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  Come on, blow me. Let's go bring it.
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  Bring my smoke, yeah. We we went to elementary school
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  together, yes. And you were the kind of guy
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  that everybody would kind of a hint and myself especially, like
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  you still make me laugh today, but you made us all laugh back
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  then. And it was one of those like,
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  man, that guy should be Mark, should be a stand up comedian
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  one day. That's wild.
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  I don't remember anybody saying that at all.
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  We were all thinking it. Yeah, that's.
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  Insane. Yeah.
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  I mean, I was the funnier person in class and going to the office
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  for it, so. Was there?
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  Yeah. I know there was that I had a
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  lot. Of that too, but I don't have.
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  I remember seeing you in there I.
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  Don't have anything to show for it though.
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  Hey, how's it going? Good to see you buddy.
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  Same thing. Yeah, exactly.
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  Yeah, we give props in the office.
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  Yeah, Mom brings us lunch. Back to the fucking.
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  Back at it. Yeah, exactly.
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  How did you get into comedy? When did you know this?
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  Was there a moment that you're like, I'm going to be a fucking
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  comedian? Yeah, I mean, I went to that
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  Humber program, did that. So that's clown college
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  basically, Humber. Comedy.
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  Yeah, exactly. They give you a nose and
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  everything. For real, though, they give you
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  a nose and everything. But that was sort of like, OK,
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  let me try and take comedy seriously.
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  And I didn't really know what to do with that.
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  Like the goal was like, yeah, I wanted to be Mike Myers, Jim
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  Care, like those guys. And I was like, OK, what did
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  they do? They went to Second City.
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  They went to something and developed this skill.
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  So found Humber audition got in there.
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  But once I did stand up was never like, dude, doing speeches
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  in school was like hell, like, oh fuck, I would like be sick.
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  Everything. They're like, Mark, you're
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  tomorrow. I'm like, I won't be here.
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  I can guarantee you. So that was brutal for me.
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  But when I did stand up for the first time, that was like the
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  big defining, reassuring moment where I was like, OK, I'm going
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  to be doing this forever. I feel like I'm in the right
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  place. I feel like this is what I'm
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  supposed to be doing. And then just went 100% and that
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  was nice. That's been it.
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  Never. Looked back, what about it
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  excites you? Why do What about it makes you
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  happy? It's very much a solo game, so
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  like, there's no one else to blame but yourself.
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  Do you know what I mean? Like both ways, it goes both
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  ways. So it's kind of like if a joke
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  didn't work or you know, like it's just you and your thoughts.
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  So like, if the joke doesn't work, there's a billion reasons
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  why every decision you made while you were before and while
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  on stage effects what you're going to do next and affects the
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  outcome. And there's no like you can't
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  really stand on anybody else. You can't be like, Oh well,
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  fucking buddy showed up like a fucking like it's because of
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  you, bro. Like you can't blame anybody
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  else, you know? And there's like, it's very much
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  like working out. I'll relate that to you, not me,
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  but like the work you put into it is the results you're going
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  to get out of it and the consistency of it.
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  So that's the only thing I've ever done where I've given that
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  type of commitment to and that kind of thing.
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  So. And seeing the results.
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  And seeing the results and also like, you know, you see the
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  growth, these are your chops get better.
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  Like you know what I mean? You you're navigating it on your
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  own. There's no, there's no one in
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  charge of it. There's no rules.
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  There's no journey to like. There's a journey, but like
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  every, each person's different. There's no way of doing.
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  It there's no template there. You go yeah, no template and no
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  right or wrong way. So it's very much like yeah well
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  I do this because this works for me when I do it, you know what I
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  mean? I don't do 1 liners because I
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  can't fucking write them and when I do them they don't work
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  or I fucking hate it. Like, I just don't write that
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  way and it doesn't work out that way, and that's that.
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  So you're gonna have a different path than I will, even if we're
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  both storyteller comics, you know what I mean?
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  Yeah, that is cool. It's like you can kind of mold
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  this whole, you know, you're kind of like making a movie,
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  honestly, every single time you go on stage and you're
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  presenting it and you're like, this could either flop or land
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  and you kind of learn from it every single time.
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  The really cool part about it is like being in the pocket.
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  Like what excites me about it the most is when you're on stage
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  and like I'm saying something to the audience, but my brain is
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  thinking about something else. Most of the time when you're
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  crushing and you're actually like, that's when you're in it
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  the most and there is no, you're not thinking about anything
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  after whatever. It's only when you start to
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  tank, you're like, OK, this didn't work.
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  This usually works right here and it didn't work right here.
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  Now I'm starting to lose them. The next joke that I'm going to
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  say is very similar to this one, so I should probably move that
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  later and put something else here.
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  Do you know what I mean? So you're doing that in your
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  head to guide the rest of the show.
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  Do you know what I mean? So like that part is, let's call
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  it exhilarating because like it's fun and it's nerve wracking
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  at the same time, you know what I mean?
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  So. I've I've always wondered this
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  and I hear, I hear a lot of comics say this.
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  I listen to a lot of podcasts, but I hear a lot of comics say,
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  you know, and you just said it there when the audience doesn't
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  like it or when it starts to turn.
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  How the fuck do you know when, when it starts to turn?
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  Because like, to me, I don't know the difference when I'm, I,
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  I go to watch a lot of stand up when I travel, especially every
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  time I go to Lai always try to go to comedy.
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  No New York Comedy Cellar. And I, I'm like, I don't, you
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  know, the guy starts talking about bombing on stage.
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  He's like, oh, this isn't going so well.
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  And I'm like, look, I'm like, I didn't really feel that.
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  How do you know? Oh dude, like when OK, you know
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  when you're watching someone and it really is bad.
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  Yeah, yeah. Like, really?
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  Bad and they can't tell the the comic yeah thinks he's crushing
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  or isn't changing. The way he's acting at all.
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  Yeah, and all of you are like getting real uncomfortable.
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  That's that moment when you can feel and you start looking at
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  other people and they know when you know that sort of, let's
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  call it fuck. Brutal word here, but that
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  energy in the room and like you guys all feeling a certain way,
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  we can all feel that in any room we go to with any scenario.
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  So he 90% of the time, like a lot of comics try to just blow
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  through it and not address it because addressing it is like,
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  like when I address it, it has to be going very badly.
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  And when it is, I'm like, I have to address this.
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  Like I've tried everything at this point and now it's so bad.
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  It's like the elephant in the room.
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  Yeah, exactly. And you have to address it, or
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  at least you're trained to. But we are our worst critics.
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  So there is a problem with addressing it because sometimes,
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  a lot of the times anyways, they don't know how it's supposed to
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  go. So yeah, sure, maybe at this
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  line, you know, because you've done this joke 1000 times, you
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  know that it's going to get a big pop here.
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  So if it doesn't get a huge pop that you're used to, but it gets
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  like a laugh that's just not as big, and you go, oh, this isn't
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  going well. It doesn't mean it's not going
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  well. You're just used to it
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  murdering, right? And it's not in this moment, you
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  know? But a lot of times they still
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  are paying attention and like, are still, you know, locked in,
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  you know. Yeah, that's wicked.
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  What's your creative process like writing?
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  How do you write? How do you get inspired?
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  It's brutal. I bet you had changes too over
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  time. Well, yeah, like it's never the
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  same per joke, you know, for a lot of the times, like for
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  example, I have a joke that I have about dinosaurs, about my
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  wife not believing in dinosaurs, which is a true story.
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  And the way I wrote that was we got into an argument live in
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  person, right? All arguments are live in
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  person, Mark. Fuck.
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  We got into an. Argument.
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  I thought you were on stage for a second.
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  With her, no, we got into an argument and then I had a show
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  the next day and I just said the argument back and forth like
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  what we actually said. I said it on stage and they
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  crushed. And I was like, OK, so then I
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  never wrote it. I just kept, every time I went
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  on stage, I was like, let me tell that story about me and my
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  wife arguing about dinosaurs. And then it started to hone
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  itself as you work it on stage. And then after, you know, you
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  start to remember the parts that work and don't work.
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  And then it starts to shape itself into a joke or into a
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  full story bit where it's like, you know, then from there you
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  kind of you draft that out and be like, OK, these are the main
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  points that work. And then you try and build it
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  and like punch it up or try to find alternatives for certain
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  parts or whatever. That's really cool.
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  I've. Never heard that.
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  The other side is like, you know, I have a joke about food
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  basics where like the whole thing was I wrote the whole
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  thing out and then went to go and perform it and then you go
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  back and you just keep editing it as you go. 90% of the time my
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  stuff is based on something that has happened.
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  I go on stage, I tell it and then it, I tweak it as it goes.
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  You find new tags on stage, you know, you write new tags for it.
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  You know, this part is funny, but this line didn't work, so I
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  got to change this part and then you change it to something that
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  works. So look, a lot of family come
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  and see me and they go, Oh well fuck, I remember when Nona did
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  that, but this part never happened.
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  It's like, well, the real part doesn't fucking work.
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  So you know what I mean? Like some parts you have to add
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  some salt and pepper, you have some seasoning and stuff.
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  So, but like, it all comes from like a premise that has happened
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  at some point, you know? So we talked about bombing a
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  little bit. Tony Monaco, did you get any of
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  the live luxy nightclub I'm. Going to clip that.
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  Do it. Didn't Joe Rogan get his podcast
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  thing from some UFC fighter like yelling it on stage?
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  I I learned that the other day, some UFC fighter in an interview
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  said Joe Rogan I got or whatever he said and he clipped it from
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  that interview after the fight. I know I didn't even know that.
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  Either I. Didn't know that either.
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  Yeah. So I wanted to ask you.
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  This is a sensitive topic, but have you ever bombed before?
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  No. It's not sensitive at all.
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  Yeah, so bombing is a part of the process, much like relapsing
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  in. I just made that up right now.
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  But how on earth does one recover from bombing, even
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  either in the moment? Does it stay in your head for a
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  while after? How do you get over it?
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  I mean, I feel like you get a little better with it over time.
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  Like the bombs stick out less and less now.
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  It's almost like jokes bomb themselves rather than whole
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  performances at this point in the game for me anyways.
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  I mean, that's not true. There's I've had sets this year
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  where it's like from start to finish, it's like complete
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  silence. And I'm like, I don't know
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  what's going on here. And these are people who paid to
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  see me. Like on my tour I had one show,
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  dude was like silence the entire hour and a half opener and me
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  and I was like, but then the meet and greet line is 100
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  people deep. They're all taking photos.
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  They're all like, this was incredible.
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  I'm like, I'm like, were we in the same?
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  Room. Yeah.
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  Like, was there a sound barrier? Yeah.
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  Dude, and I literally, I watched the footage and I was like, no,
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  there's no laughs like at all. I and I don't know what I I
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  honestly have no idea what happened.
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  But yeah, man, it's like you sweat more, you hate it, you
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  hate yourself, you hate your bits, you blame your own
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  preparation, you know, because there is a such thing as over
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  preparing and stuff. But like, what is that?
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  How does that like, you don't know until it's all over and you
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  go fuck. I was too worried about
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  memorizing this part because you know, like sometimes, for
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  example, in a set list, you'll I have this whole part about going
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  to Italy and like the different things that I'm grateful for in
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  Canada when I go to Italy, I'm not really Italian.
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  When I'm here, I feel like I'm the most.
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  Italian. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  That's good. Yeah, But I finally found like a
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  structure for it that works. So I really wanted to remember
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  the structure because the, you know, it works so smoothly,
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  right? And transitioned into my other
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  stuff. So I was like, so focused on
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  remembering that. But then when I went out there,
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  I wasn't really in the moment and connecting with the audience
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  for the first minute or two that like I was focused on hitting
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  those points that I was just like a fucking, you know, you're
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  not in the bit. You're just like, what do you
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  call it? Like in robot mode, you're just
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  saying, yeah, you're just reciting the bit, which never
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  works. And then you're like, well,
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  fuck, man, you can't. That's over rehearsing.
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  That's being over stressed out and fucking, you know, worried
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  about bullshit. I'm not finding the words in my
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  brain for the things I'm trying to describe on this entire
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  podcast. It's hot.
• 16:49
  In here and it's it's very fucking hot here that's how I
• 16:52
  bomb when I bomb dude you want to see me sweat bro yeah come
• 16:56
  watch me bomb dude that's fucking my low back that's.
• 16:59
  I'll be the guy standing up and cheering.
• 17:01
  No, you won't. You'd be sweating too.
• 17:02
  You'd be like this is a mess. Yeah, well, there's such a thing
• 17:05
  as second hand embarrassment, right?
• 17:06
  And like people, you know, I was always told whenever I gave a
• 17:09
  public speech in certain areas, people are like, no one wants
• 17:12
  you to do bad. Nobody.
• 17:13
  It's kind of true in comedy too, right?
• 17:16
  Dude, nothing, I can't watch comedy like I never watch the
• 17:19
  people before me because if I watch someone who's eating it,
• 17:23
  it fucks me up. Like I I get out of my head
• 17:26
  space like, and I know I like a lot of times you should watch,
• 17:29
  you know, because if someone's going to do crowd work, you want
• 17:31
  to make sure that you either, you know, there's a birthday in
• 17:33
  a room, you know that this guy's celebrating.
• 17:35
  So you don't want to be like, Hey, buddy, what do you
• 17:36
  celebrate? And the whole room.
• 17:37
  We just told you, yeah. Exactly right.
• 17:39
  There's that type of thing. But when someone starts to bomb
• 17:42
  dude, I get the fuck out of that room immediately.
• 17:44
  I'm like I can't be a part of this, this is brutal cuz you're
• 17:46
  just you. Like you soak in the energy a
• 17:48
  little bit and it fucking. I don't know.
• 17:51
  But that's why I try and do like breath work before shows to get
• 17:56
  out of my head and shit too. You know some Wim Hof.
• 17:59
  Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, that's that's becoming a lot more
• 18:02
  prevalent now and, and mainstream is this kind of
• 18:04
  meditation breath work. Yeah, I try to do it every
• 18:06
  morning and it wavers. But yeah, before you do any
• 18:10
  public speaking, it's funny you bring up Second City because I
• 18:12
  did a public speaking course there and I really enjoyed it.
• 18:16
  I had a good time and a lot of what she was talking about, it
• 18:19
  was a good experience. I feel like my public speaking
• 18:24
  has gotten a little bit better, but I don't know.
• 18:27
  Have you ever gone up? Because this, this has happened
• 18:30
  to me before. I've had to lead some, you know,
• 18:32
  in recovery. We have to share our story once
• 18:35
  in a while. And I've been up like, you know,
• 18:38
  probably I could say probably 3 or 4 times in front of like I've
• 18:42
  been up a lot, but I've been up three or four times in the seven
• 18:44
  or eight years in front of like 200 people.
• 18:46
  And for me that was, that was a lot.
• 18:48
  You know, you have a podium, you have a microphone, everyone's
• 18:50
  looking at you. No one wants to do bad.
• 18:53
  What? Is that fucking podium dude?
• 18:54
  Yeah. Well, you don't like well
• 18:56
  because you, but you guys like to move back and forth, right
• 18:59
  like. We don't like to necessarily.
• 19:01
  Work the but you have to engage everybody.
• 19:04
  Yeah, but like, you don't like just the podium is blocking 90%
• 19:08
  of your body, Yeah. And body and we communicate what
• 19:12
  90% yeah yeah of like through. Like next time just pull the mic
• 19:16
  out and walk around. No, I'm serious.
• 19:19
  That would literally engage everybody.
• 19:21
  Oh, 100. Percent.
• 19:22
  If you went up there and been like fucked this podium shit and
• 19:24
  pulled the mic out and just and walked in front and just stood
• 19:28
  in front of it and stood at the front of the tip of the stage
• 19:31
  automatically, dude, you'll do 20 times better just from that.
• 19:33
  Yeah, I know you've got the notes and stuff like that.
• 19:36
  No, no, there's no notes. You just oh fuck dude, then get
• 19:38
  rid of that thing. Because you're telling your
• 19:40
  story, so it's like I I'm the only one that knows it.
• 19:43
  So yeah, I can say whatever I want.
• 19:46
  Yeah, you just have to be careful when you're talking when
• 19:49
  and you're holding the mic, you're not doing this.
• 19:51
  Yeah, sometimes you're like, so so then I was talking.
• 19:53
  You know what I mean? You.
• 19:54
  Oh, because then. Oh, yeah.
• 19:55
  Then no one can. And everyone here.
• 19:57
  Exactly. Yeah.
• 19:58
  Yeah. So you, you know, you talk about
• 20:02
  bombing. Is there What?
• 20:03
  What's the weirdest place you've ever done a gig at?
• 20:06
  At. There's quite a few weird how I.
• 20:10
  Don't know, just like strange. I mean, the the one where you
• 20:13
  just literally told me about the people not laughing like that
• 20:16
  would be that's, that's like a Twilight Zone moment.
• 20:19
  I mean I've done some at like sex clubs where people are
• 20:21
  getting like their Dick sucked in the front room.
• 20:23
  Really. You ever just bomb and buddies
• 20:26
  getting this Dick sucked? No.
• 20:27
  I can't say. Yeah, that's brutal.
• 20:30
  Is anyone paying attention? Everyone's paying attention and
• 20:33
  everyone's naked and everyone's got a boner.
• 20:35
  Dude, I was dude, I was performing.
• 20:38
  Dude. This is the crazy 'cause it's
• 20:41
  like I feel this way about sex in general.
• 20:45
  Not like everybody. If you see two people fucking
• 20:48
  right there, we're both looking. Everyone is like, I can't you
• 20:52
  see animals fucking like. Yeah, you can't look away.
• 20:54
  You can't look away. So when you're performing and
• 20:57
  there's like, you know, 200 people in there, they're all
• 21:00
  naked or summer in robes and they're like feeling each other.
• 21:04
  And this is like the preamble to their night.
• 21:07
  It's like you can't not see what's going on and not look.
• 21:12
  So this one guy sitting in the front row waiting for his date,
• 21:15
  cock ring on dude. Full fledger.
• 21:17
  Like, just so like a rock. Ready to go?
• 21:20
  Like just sitting there like this was he making front row
• 21:24
  just like watching my stand up cock ring on looking at me like
• 21:32
  into the bits and I'm I can't stop looking at his fucking is
• 21:36
  solid Dong and I'm like looking around.
• 21:38
  I'm like, OK, brother, like I can't do this.
• 21:40
  Like you have to like this is you're like either start jerking
• 21:44
  off, which is really weird, but it's par for the course you.
• 21:48
  Know at least you're doing something.
• 21:49
  Do something with this or or take a walk, like you know what
• 21:52
  I mean? And he's just like, I'm just
• 21:53
  waiting for my my plus one. I'm like, they're not coming.
• 21:56
  Like, I don't like we're an hour into the show here.
• 21:59
  Like they're not here. Or like, you know, can you just
• 22:01
  not be solid? Yeah, I call the doctor.
• 22:04
  It's been a while. It's been a long time.
• 22:06
  You have had a boner that's full tilt for this long.
• 22:08
  It's unbelievable. It's very weird.
• 22:10
  Like, and that was like, I addressed it.
• 22:12
  I said all this to him. He started laughing and then he
• 22:15
  got up. He's like, would you feel better
• 22:17
  if I like got up and left? I'm like, I want you to enjoy
• 22:20
  the show, but like, like do whatever you want, but I just
• 22:24
  want you to know that this is fucking me up.
• 22:25
  I'm like then I go to the bar dude and he comes to me and
• 22:30
  still full tilt boner butt naked and he's like, man, that was
• 22:34
  really funny. Sorry if I like interrupted you.
• 22:36
  He orders a drink. I'm like, oh don't worry about
• 22:38
  it. Orders a drink dude.
• 22:39
  As he turns to walk away, his Dick.
• 22:41
  Just. Just hits my leg.
• 22:42
  I'm like I'm done dude. Get me the fuck out of here man.
• 22:45
  His boner just fucking gets caught on my leg.
• 22:48
  Like how? Does that gig come about?
• 22:51
  Dude, there's like there's all these sex club have all the they
• 22:54
  have like, you know, themed nights and they have like big
• 22:56
  entertainment rooms where like shrimp dancing, burlesque,
• 22:59
  whatever, right? Like, but yeah, it gets, you
• 23:02
  know, then at a certain time, like after the show, like 11:00
• 23:05
  PM, you either have to get in a robe and get naked to stay in
• 23:08
  there or you got to go. So I always go obviously, you
• 23:13
  know, but like I, it was funny. I forgot my bag in one time.
• 23:17
  So I, I went back, I forgot like I had like a little fucking side
• 23:20
  satchel bag or whatever, crossbody Fanny pack and I left
• 23:25
  it side stage. And like now, the stage at this
• 23:28
  point was like an apparatus where you strap people to it and
• 23:33
  whip them and shit. There's a different kind of show
• 23:35
  going on after. You, yeah, there was like a, you
• 23:37
  know, feel free to use the stage and whip your pal.
• 23:39
  And that's what it was, dude. Like, I come back to get my bag
• 23:43
  and, like, picture just like your standard, like anybody in
• 23:47
  your brain, Like, they look like a bunch of school teachers, just
• 23:49
  like getting whipped and, you know, doing everything you can
• 23:54
  think of. And I just could not believe
• 23:56
  what people were doing in there blowing me away.
• 23:59
  Wow. People are into some crazy
• 24:00
  stuff. Wow.
• 24:01
  And they were like, you're just not tapped into your sexual
• 24:04
  side. I'm like, yeah, for sure, dude.
• 24:05
  Yeah, Sorry, I didn't want to get pegged tonight.
• 24:08
  Yeah, that wasn't in my bingo card for today.
• 24:10
  You know what I mean? Like.
• 24:11
  Come on. And I don't think my wife and
• 24:13
  child would appreciate. It Yeah, I don't think my wife
• 24:15
  wants me here at all, to be honest.
• 24:16
  If I wasn't getting paid, I would not be here.
• 24:19
  You know what I mean? So it's crazy the gigs that you
• 24:22
  end up doing. Man, I mean, so mental health is
• 24:27
  a big part of stand up, obviously.
• 24:29
  Yeah, so I so I hear, man. Yeah, there's, you know,
• 24:32
  there's, there's a stigma in mental, in comedy.
• 24:36
  You know, you've seen, we were talking about before the show,
• 24:38
  you've seen a couple of people who are now in recovery, which
• 24:40
  is good. That kind of, we're going
• 24:42
  through it in in the throes of addiction and alcoholism and
• 24:45
  you, you, it's kind of a thing, right?
• 24:47
  Like you. Hear A.
• 24:48
  Lot of people going through it, but how does I guess, how does
• 24:52
  like mental health, how do you deal with your mental health and
• 24:55
  around comedy, traveling, you know, being on the road a lot,
• 24:58
  being away from your family, What's that like?
• 25:00
  I I swear to do, the short answer is I eat, I swear to God.
• 25:04
  Like I not to make a joke about it, but like everybody deals
• 25:08
  with so many things and everyone had like, and certain things
• 25:12
  affect people differently. And what fucks me up more than
• 25:16
  anything is being on the road for long periods of time.
• 25:18
  Like, you know, you find your threshold.
• 25:20
  Like sometimes you book a bunch of stuff and you're like, oh,
• 25:22
  this is great. I've got like 2 months ready to
• 25:24
  go. And then you're like at like a
• 25:27
  month thing. Like buddy, I can't do this.
• 25:29
  Like I got to go back. Like you, you're just like,
• 25:32
  you've been on 22 different beds, you've been in 10
• 25:35
  different hotels. Like you know what I mean?
• 25:36
  Like it just it wear and tear on your body alone, the flying a
• 25:40
  bunch, you can get sick way easier.
• 25:43
  And like the last two I did, I got like I got bronchitis, I got
• 25:46
  walking pneumonia, I got strep throat, I fucking had a fever.
• 25:50
  Like you know what I mean? You're like, this isn't a 2
• 25:52
  month span because you're sleeping like shit.
• 25:55
  You're on to the next, you're on to the next and you think you
• 25:57
  can do it. I noticed earlier on ANYWAYS
• 26:00
  that my threshold was about like 3 weeks.
• 26:02
  I was like OK, after three weeks I'm like almost sick of it, you
• 26:06
  know what I mean? You're like, OK, mentally and
• 26:08
  physically I'm drained and I need a reset.
• 26:12
  I got to go back home. I got to eat my own food that I
• 26:15
  make. And you know what I mean?
• 26:16
  Because like you're eating late after a show, you sleep in maybe
• 26:20
  you go to the gym, you're on a plane, you go to the next spot,
• 26:23
  you're eating on the road, you're eating in a car.
• 26:25
  Like especially in Canada, it's like it's really long drives
• 26:29
  where you're, you know, you'll wake up in Edmonton, you'll do a
• 26:32
  show, wake up the next morning and you're driving 8 hours to
• 26:35
  fucking wherever you do the show that night, you sleep the next
• 26:37
  day, you're driving 4 hours somewhere else.
• 26:39
  Like when you do that for even a week, you're like, OK, you know,
• 26:44
  fuck, we got a slot of gig in here where we're here for three
• 26:46
  days or something. You know what I mean?
• 26:47
  To really break it up and the wear and tear can get a lot,
• 26:50
  which keeps you it keeps you busy, but it also you lose a
• 26:55
  little bit of like, I don't want to say reality because you're
• 26:59
  not really in touch with what's going on in your personal life
• 27:02
  in like mainstream life. You're just like, I'm going to
• 27:05
  this town to entertain these people with the stuff that I
• 27:07
  think works. You're working on some bits,
• 27:09
  you're crafting an hour, whatever.
• 27:12
  But the having a kid is like way worse.
• 27:16
  Dude. You're like, you go home.
• 27:18
  Like I was in Montreal for the weekend, dude, was it gone four
• 27:20
  days? I come home, I'm like my
• 27:22
  daughter is taller. She looks like I'm like, what
• 27:25
  the fuck? Like you just feel like you
• 27:27
  missed out on like a growth period, right?
• 27:30
  And like because you're so busy and you're moving a lot, the
• 27:33
  kids schedule is so much different, which is terrible
• 27:35
  when you come home, you know? But let me try and gather my
• 27:38
  thoughts here on, like what I'm trying to say.
• 27:39
  But like, you know, you come home, you feel like you missed
• 27:43
  stuff. The schedule is different when
• 27:44
  you're away. You try to FaceTime call and be
• 27:46
  a part of it. But you know, they have nap
• 27:48
  times, they have bed times. They wake up at a certain time,
• 27:50
  which is completely the opposite of your clock when you're on the
• 27:54
  road. So like, you know, 8:00, my
• 27:57
  daughter's going to bed. That's prime time Showtime.
• 28:00
  OK, so I'm missing good nights. OK, let me try and get good
• 28:03
  mornings. I've been up till 3:00 in the
• 28:06
  morning. I'm up at 10:11 AM, You know
• 28:10
  what I mean? I wake up, I have like half an
• 28:13
  hour. She's going in for a nap.
• 28:14
  It's like, you know, and then when you get home, the kids
• 28:18
  like, for example, I got home at like 1:00 in the morning last
• 28:22
  night. The kid was up at 6:30.
• 28:24
  So like you're not getting the sleep you're.
• 28:26
  And then when you are with her in the morning, like it's
• 28:28
  incredible. She's so happy to see me.
• 28:30
  She's throw whatever. You know, my wife's like every
• 28:33
  morning she runs to like your side of the bed and thinks
• 28:36
  you're there, which is like soul crushing.
• 28:38
  Yeah, you're like, that's fucking awful.
• 28:40
  So like all you want to do is be there.
• 28:42
  So like I'm trying to do things in my life now to just manage my
• 28:46
  time better and buy my time back so I can do whatever the fuck I
• 28:49
  want. So I'm trying to outsource
• 28:51
  everything I can. I'm trying to have editors,
• 28:53
  videograhers, like I just want to show U and do what I do.
• 28:57
  Everything else, everybody else can fucking deal with it because
• 28:59
  I don't want to deal with anybody but my child and that's
• 29:04
  that, you know what I mean? So like, tell me where I got to
• 29:06
  be, at what time, deposit the money in my account.
• 29:08
  If I have to take half my money and give it to other people so
• 29:11
  that I can do fuck all in my backyard with my kid when she's
• 29:15
  home and available to do it perfect, no problem.
• 29:18
  You know what I mean? Like, I don't mind losing a
• 29:20
  chunk of my money to other people if it's going to make
• 29:24
  this journey or my career run smoother, you know, give it up
• 29:28
  to Diddy. That's the one thing he said
• 29:29
  that made sense. He was like outsource man as
• 29:32
  soon as you can, which he was like, 'cause then you can have
• 29:36
  more oil parties, right? Like that was this whole thing.
• 29:39
  But so many, I think Jay-Z said that, too.
• 29:42
  It was just like the sooner that you can get people to take on
• 29:45
  the hats that you're wearing that can just do it better than
• 29:49
  you. Like I'm at the point, dude,
• 29:50
  where like everyone you're dealing with does this pretty
• 29:53
  well. Like does other things really
• 29:55
  well. So like, why am I going to try
• 29:57
  and learn how to use lenses and cameras and spend 2 weeks with a
• 30:02
  camera trying to figure it the fuck out?
• 30:05
  Let me pay this kid who literally sleeps next to his
• 30:07
  lenses and would like bury me in any conversation with this
• 30:12
  stuff. Like why am I bothering?
• 30:14
  Pay him his fee, have him show up.
• 30:16
  It's going to look 20 times better.
• 30:17
  It's going to runway smoother. We're gonna have no headaches,
• 30:20
  you know what I mean? So I've learned the hard way
• 30:23
  many times by hiring people who don't know what the fuck they're
• 30:24
  doing. So, you know, that was very
• 30:27
  long. No, it's a.
• 30:28
  It's a good point. I mean and.
• 30:29
  I don't know if I dealt with how I deal with the mental health,
• 30:32
  but you don't man like you like you know you.
• 30:36
  Sorry, I got to get the sweat. Oh my God.
• 30:38
  Yeah, dude, look at. This this water.
• 30:40
  This is the water bottle just dripping sweat.
• 30:43
  I'm wearing fucking. My thighs are out anyways.
• 30:48
  I love it. Sorry, I don't like dude, you
• 30:53
  binge eat. That's my biggest problem in
• 30:55
  life. I binge eat and I do everything
• 30:57
  in excess so I'm not a big drinker.
• 31:00
  I've tried to cut alcohol almost entirely because like if me and
• 31:03
  you were sitting here having beers, I'd be like 6 beers deep
• 31:06
  because I drink it to finish it. Do you know what I mean?
• 31:09
  I eat to finish it. I don't do blow on certain drugs
• 31:12
  because if I do, we're doing it until it's done, you know?
• 31:16
  What I'm saying that was me, yeah.
• 31:17
  Yeah, yeah, Like you, just that's the culture we come from
• 31:20
  is like, you must finish this plate of food because the war
• 31:23
  happened and it might happen again.
• 31:25
  And if you don't eat these potatoes, you might never see a
• 31:27
  potato again. That's my no, no, you know.
• 31:29
  Yeah, well, the kids across the world don't get it, so, you
• 31:31
  know, right. Should be grateful that you have
• 31:33
  it right. Yeah, so that's where, you know,
• 31:36
  after shows, dude, it's fucked. Like I just, I eat enough for a
• 31:40
  lot of people. Yeah.
• 31:42
  So you know, what's your go to? I love diners, dude.
• 31:45
  I just, they're the fucking best.
• 31:47
  Like greasy spoons? Greasy spoon diners do where
• 31:49
  ladies triceps are taking your orders like the swinging fucking
• 31:55
  triceps. Yeah, Bertha.
• 31:58
  Yeah, fucking Betty. Luanne Sue.
• 32:00
  Like she's got a the shorter haircut than me and shit.
• 32:04
  Like I love that her triceps swinging, her hands feel like
• 32:08
  fucking Basel. Like, you know, this is the shit
• 32:12
  I like because you can get anything you want, bro.
• 32:14
  Like I love fucking yeah this at night, you know what I mean?
• 32:17
  Yeah. So like I'm basically just
• 32:18
  having a construction plate. I love I fuck with the
• 32:22
  construction plate all the time. Yeah, give me the lumberjack,
• 32:25
  whatever you guys call it. Yeah, you know what I mean.
• 32:26
  Like. Do you do you have any places
• 32:28
  that you love to play like where the fans just kind of, you know,
• 32:32
  feel more receptive to your jokes or.
• 32:34
  Yeah, I mean, I love Alberta. Alberta's great.
• 32:37
  Like in Canada, Yeah, Alberta seems to be awesome.
• 32:39
  I mean, I've been going there for a long time, so that helps.
• 32:41
  But like the audiences are just fucking, they're loving it, man.
• 32:45
  They're like they're there to fucking laugh and they get it.
• 32:49
  They're no, they are a very conservative province.
• 32:54
  It's a. Pretty blue over there.
• 32:55
  It's very blue, but where if you take a place like Ottawa that's
• 33:02
  very red Liberal, let's say, I can tailor my bits to really
• 33:10
  anyone can be more racist, you know what I mean?
• 33:12
  Or like more stereotypically this or that, or push these
• 33:15
  buttons or play more conservative.
• 33:17
  We can all do that. It's harder to play more left,
• 33:20
  I'd say, which is, let's call it cleaner.
• 33:23
  But I've been doing corporate clean comedy for fucking since I
• 33:25
  started. So.
• 33:27
  But you just find that the audience member is more nervous
• 33:31
  to laugh at stuff because of how they they will be perceived if
• 33:36
  they will get in trouble. Oh, they're there with their
• 33:39
  government staff party and they're always like, like they
• 33:41
  always feel like they have to hide their laughs, which is the
• 33:44
  complete opposite of what a liberal is, which makes me like
• 33:47
  my brain baffle. But in Alberta, they're just
• 33:51
  like, yeah, sure, they want you to go this way.
• 33:55
  But regardless, they're just open for like, yeah, man, let's
• 33:58
  fucking do it tonight. You know what I mean?
• 34:00
  Regardless of what you say. So if you drop a little bit of
• 34:03
  this or that, they love it, they eat it up.
• 34:06
  Now I don't, I try not to do that.
• 34:08
  I do my shit the same everywhere.
• 34:10
  But you know, you play to your audience and fuck, Alberta's
• 34:13
  just ready to go, man. Yeah, yeah, it seems like that,
• 34:16
  you know, they just, they're just want to have a good time,
• 34:18
  right? They they know what they came
• 34:19
  for Yeah, Cuz when I go to a comedy show, I want to laugh,
• 34:22
  right? I want I you know I'm AI like
• 34:25
  dark jokes right? And some people don't want to
• 34:27
  laugh. Why they come to comedy clubs?
• 34:30
  I know this sounds insane, but like you can feel it where they
• 34:32
  come in nervous. They're like, I hope they don't
• 34:35
  make fun of me. I hope they don't see this.
• 34:37
  I really hope that that doesn't like you see people being like
• 34:40
  nervous on. Guard.
• 34:41
  Their their guards up. That's the whole first half of
• 34:44
  the show is to be like fucking relax, man.
• 34:46
  It's like even people who sit in front row like oh fuck, it's
• 34:49
  like, dude, what am I going to say?
• 34:51
  That's going to really shatter your day here.
• 34:53
  Hey, you're a loser. Hey, you're a fat bald fuck.
• 34:56
  Like what am I going to say? And like, and if I say that
• 34:58
  you're going to be like feel like you're just going to cry
• 35:01
  and breakdown. Like I don't get it why people
• 35:03
  get so nervous, but a lot of them don't like being around
• 35:06
  people or being the center of the tension or picked on.
• 35:10
  Like it's triggering for some people to be like a man.
• 35:12
  You look like a fucking hey, you know, you look like this guy.
• 35:15
  Everyone can see you from behind you.
• 35:17
  You can't see anybody else. You feel picked on or whatever.
• 35:20
  So like, I get it, but like no one's there.
• 35:23
  Be the butt end of the joke for half a second, dude.
• 35:25
  Be part of the greater cause for just literally 10 seconds 'cause
• 35:29
  I am going to be for the next hour and a half and you're
• 35:32
  paying to see it so fuck, just relax.
• 35:34
  You know, easier said than done. I know things can be trigger for
• 35:37
  some people, but anyways I talk a lot.
• 35:40
  Do you do it's OK feel? Free to be like OK mark yo, but
• 35:43
  listen. I have people in here so that we
• 35:46
  can hear them. I talk too much anyways on this
• 35:48
  podcast so don't even. Worry.
• 35:49
  No, I feel like you don't talk enough.
• 35:50
  I mean, you should be like Mark, OK, that's enough.
• 35:53
  Yeah, I need a guy to just like, hey.
• 35:55
  Yeah, I have a guy right on the other side.
• 35:56
  I can't be like, OK, yeah, shut the fuck up, dude.
• 36:00
  I feel like so the thing with do you do crowd work yeah, cuz a
• 36:04
  lot yeah. I feel like it could go either
• 36:07
  way, right. But the thing I like about crowd
• 36:10
  work, at least from the clips that I cuz I don't, I don't
• 36:12
  know, being an being a viewer of that like, so it's a taped
• 36:17
  special. You know, live is different.
• 36:19
  Live anything goes for me. Live.
• 36:21
  I like whatever I'm there to see.
• 36:22
  It's your show. But I, I kind of I'm a little
• 36:24
  more picky with my, my stand up that I watch recorded.
• 36:30
  You see a lot of things go in places that you don't
• 36:32
  necessarily think that they're gonna go.
• 36:34
  Do you have any good stories about like that Working the
• 36:36
  crowd and you know how it ended up?
• 36:40
  Oh, like it going somewhere and it's like turns into a gem
• 36:43
  moment type thing. Like it turns out, man, this was
• 36:46
  such a good moment like a month ago and I have the clip.
• 36:49
  It's going to come out soon. Perfect.
• 36:50
  Once I edit it, which might not be for another five years.
• 36:54
  Like fucking editors. So this guy was in this girl was
• 37:01
  in the front row. Beautiful, beautiful woman
• 37:04
  sitting front row. No one next to it was a theater
• 37:07
  show in Hamilton. No one's sitting next to her.
• 37:11
  And the guy on her left, like on her right side.
• 37:13
  So I looked at them as if they were oh, no, right.
• 37:16
  And I was like, oh, you guys are together.
• 37:17
  She's like, no, no, no, I'm. I'm not with him, all right.
• 37:20
  And his wife was next to him. I was like, oh, sorry, whatever.
• 37:23
  Did some crowd work on these two?
• 37:24
  Whatever. And I was like, is this seat
• 37:27
  next to you empty? Like, where are they?
• 37:29
  Like, where is this person? And they were like, oh, he's
• 37:32
  here. He's just going to get drinks.
• 37:33
  I was like, oh, nice. I was like, what does he do for
• 37:36
  a living? She was like, I have no idea.
• 37:38
  I'm like, do you know this person?
• 37:40
  And she's like, yeah, yeah. This is like our, like, third
• 37:42
  date. I'm like, oh, what's his name?
• 37:45
  I'm like, we should do something fun.
• 37:46
  Like when he comes in, we'll like, boom at the same time or
• 37:48
  like, cheer or say something right?
• 37:49
  Or chant his name. I was like, what's his name?
• 37:51
  We'll chant his name. She's like, I have no idea.
• 37:55
  I was like, you don't know what he does.
• 37:57
  You don't know his name, and he's buying you drinks.
• 37:59
  He bought tickets to the show. Yes.
• 38:01
  Have you put out? No, what's been going on?
• 38:04
  I was like these last three days, he's paid for everything.
• 38:06
  I'm like, so this guy is wine and dining you for the last two
• 38:10
  months, taking you on like 3 or 4 dates.
• 38:12
  You don't know his name. She's like, no, as I say that
• 38:17
  dude. This guy comes walking.
• 38:19
  Oh my God. Perfect.
• 38:20
  And I'm like, Boo, like we all start booing him.
• 38:23
  OK, I shouldn't have done that. I felt so bad.
• 38:25
  But he's into it. He's got his beers.
• 38:27
  He's like, fuck yeah, fuck you guys, whatever, right?
• 38:29
  He sits down and I'm like, hey, buddy, what's your name?
• 38:32
  And he's like Steve. And I look at him like, you
• 38:34
  know, I give her a head nod. I'm like, what do you do for a
• 38:38
  living? Blah, blah, blah.
• 38:38
  I get all this information out, dude, about him.
• 38:41
  And she looks at me. She's like, thank you.
• 38:43
  And I look at the audience. I'm like, I'm doing the Lord's
• 38:45
  work. And he had no idea.
• 38:48
  No clue, I'm like saving relationships one day at a time.
• 38:50
  You're like, this guy's a poor. SAP was she embarrassed while
• 38:54
  you were doing that? Oh, she was dying, dude.
• 38:56
  She was dying. Yeah.
• 38:57
  It was such a funny moment because, like, the whole
• 38:58
  audience was in on something. Like that's what I like about
• 39:01
  crowd workers. Like if when you get good
• 39:02
  moments, man, they're fucking, they're the best moments of the
• 39:05
  show 'cause they know it's organic, you know?
• 39:08
  Then there's parts where you have duts who fucking say
• 39:11
  nothing or try to like out joke you and you're like just answer
• 39:14
  me dude. Like you know, what do you do
• 39:15
  for a living? Your mom, You're like OK my mom,
• 39:19
  you fucked my mom out of shit like.
• 39:21
  You got me. You got me dude.
• 39:22
  Now what? Like now this sucks and you're a
• 39:24
  loser have. You ever had a Heckler?
• 39:26
  Oh yeah, yeah. How do you deal with that?
• 39:27
  I I find it interesting how everyone kind of deals with it,
• 39:30
  but. I just try to engage with them
• 39:32
  as little as possible. Like you talk to them, you try
• 39:35
  and shut it down a little bit, you know what I mean?
• 39:38
  Give them their true seconds of fame, you know, and then try and
• 39:42
  flip it and make it funny somehow.
• 39:43
  I don't try to go like roast for roast because I'm not the best
• 39:49
  roast comic unless I'm angry. And when I get angry and I'm
• 39:52
  like going at you, it's hard for me to like revert back to like
• 39:56
  my usual self on stage, you know what I mean?
• 39:59
  And I feel like it takes away from the rest of the show.
• 40:01
  And I hate when people come and we get side railed by this
• 40:04
  bullshit for like 10 minutes. But that being said, I've been
• 40:08
  like out roasted to death. Oh really?
• 40:10
  Oh. This one lady, dude, she was
• 40:12
  hammered in Kingston, bro. She roasted me so bad where I
• 40:16
  started laughing, being like you're on fire, like you're
• 40:18
  killing. Come up here.
• 40:19
  Yeah. Like she was, and I was hosting
• 40:22
  the show, so like I got on stage and she was standing up chirping
• 40:26
  how I was looking and I was like, buddy, the show isn't even
• 40:28
  fucking started yet, whatever. And the crowd is dying 'cause
• 40:31
  like she said something about like, like I look like Patrick
• 40:34
  from SpongeBob, like something like this.
• 40:36
  And I started laughing. I start chirping her.
• 40:39
  They're laughing. I'm like, OK, I won, we're good.
• 40:41
  She does it again. I can't even remember.
• 40:43
  I haven't recorded somewhere, but we go back and forth a few
• 40:46
  lines and then she gives me like fucking three or four in a row.
• 40:49
  Just darts. Like every one of them crushing
• 40:52
  the audience is like hyperventilating.
• 40:55
  And I'm just standing there. I'm like, OK, you win.
• 40:57
  Like I, I lost Like this is fucked.
• 40:59
  You are unbelievable. Like, you know, and I made them
• 41:03
  start the show over again. Like I was like, I'm going to
• 41:05
  get off stage. We're going to play music again.
• 41:08
  Like I'm getting on stage and I'm coming back on and we're
• 41:11
  starting the show again. Like I can't, I'll die like
• 41:13
  this. You know what I mean?
• 41:16
  Maybe she was a a comic. No, no, she was just like your
• 41:19
  standard. It was a construction company's
• 41:22
  concrete construction company's Christmas party that was in the
• 41:25
  audience. And she was like, you know, the
• 41:28
  bra who smoked fucking 40 packs. Edition.
• 41:30
  Oh yeah. Yeah, she's like, yeah, yeah.
• 41:32
  It'll just like your fucking, you know?
• 41:33
  She's like, I bet you have gout like, you know what I mean?
• 41:35
  Like. How about you come back with
• 41:37
  that? I'm like, fuck, I don't.
• 41:38
  Yeah, yeah, sure. You got a sleep apnea machine in
• 41:41
  the hotel. Like they're like oh fuck dude.
• 41:42
  Like and like she just sounds hilarious and like she's the
• 41:46
  fucking ball Buster in the. Office who?
• 41:48
  Deals with guys that look like me all day.
• 41:49
  She's she's already got a one up on you.
• 41:53
  Yeah, she's got credibility. She's got credibility around the
• 41:56
  office. Yeah, VIP ball Buster.
• 41:57
  Oh my God, Where do you see your future going, Mark?
• 42:01
  Like, what do you, what do you want to do?
• 42:03
  What's next for you? I don't.
• 42:05
  Know dad, like fuck, what's your five year plan?
• 42:10
  I love you. You're gonna make money doing
• 42:13
  what? Yeah, sorry.
• 42:14
  What's this? What's the whole thing here?
• 42:15
  You're charging how much? Yeah.
• 42:18
  What's next for you? I mean, my goal is to get out of
• 42:21
  this couch as soon as possible because I'm sweating.
• 42:24
  I'm sorry. About that, No, no, I'm joking.
• 42:26
  I'm hoping the goal for stand up.
• 42:28
  I'd love to, you know, be selling out theaters across
• 42:31
  North America. That'd be great.
• 42:33
  I'd like, I only want to do 1 stadium and that's fucking ours,
• 42:36
  you know what I mean? I'd love to do Air Canada
• 42:38
  Center. That's what I call it still.
• 42:41
  Scotia Bank. Yeah, I'd like to do Scotia.
• 42:42
  Bank Yeah, ACC it's way better. Yeah, even Roger Center, like,
• 42:46
  you know, no one, no comedian has done that.
• 42:48
  I know it's completely unnecessary and not ideal for
• 42:50
  comedy. Why the the acoustics are all
• 42:52
  fucked up. I guess, yeah.
• 42:53
  Yeah. Well, it's also like you're
• 42:54
  watching the screen the whole time, you know what I mean?
• 42:56
  Like, have you been in any comedy shows at the Scotia Bank?
• 42:59
  Yeah, Dean Cook, a long time ago.
• 43:01
  Yeah, like you watch the screen the whole time or?
• 43:02
  Yeah, I know. I watched.
• 43:03
  I watched the screen. Yeah, like I saw Sebastian.
• 43:05
  I was like, I was in the lower bowl, but I was watching the
• 43:07
  screen the whole time. Like, yeah, he's funny.
• 43:09
  When you're that physical in your fate, like you want to, you
• 43:12
  got to be pretty close. So I feel like theaters is as
• 43:14
  big as it can get without feeling too distant.
• 43:18
  And some theaters that are in like the, you know, 5 like 6-7
• 43:23
  thousand range, it still feels like when you're in the back on
• 43:25
  the balcony, like you're like, I can't believe they don't have a
• 43:28
  screen here. Like this is, you know, they're
• 43:30
  so small and so far away. You feel really detached, like
• 43:33
  it sucks. I I would hate to buy it like
• 43:36
  someone buy a ticket to my show and feel that disconnected.
• 43:39
  So, but I do feel like there's a good happy medium and there's
• 43:42
  some good venues out there to be at that nice, you know, like
• 43:44
  sound. Center Meridian.
• 43:45
  Yeah, I mean, Meridian is fucking huge.
• 43:47
  Like, is it? Yeah.
• 43:48
  And I, I love Meridian Hall, but that's the show I'm talking
• 43:51
  about. Like I was in like, you know,
• 43:52
  row 30 on the balcony. And I was like, I'm just like, I
• 43:56
  don't even, they're like miniature.
• 43:59
  There's no screens. I felt really out of it, you
• 44:00
  know what I mean? But yeah, I think I saw Theo Von
• 44:04
  there one time. Yeah, I think it was at that
• 44:06
  one, but. But I mean, the price reflected
• 44:09
  like I paid like 30 bucks was like, whatever.
• 44:10
  Yeah, I don't even remember who the fuck I saw, to be honest.
• 44:13
  Jim Gaffigan. Jim Gaffigan?
• 44:14
  Nice. But I love Jim Gaffigan and my
• 44:16
  wife hates Jim Gaffigan. Yeah, yeah.
• 44:18
  You either love him or you. Hate him, my wife's like this is
• 44:19
  the worst show I've ever seen. And like, too dark or just.
• 44:22
  No, she was just like, I don't even know what the fuck this is
• 44:24
  like. Yeah, she's just like, I don't
• 44:25
  like, it's not funny. That's.
• 44:27
  Outrage. There's nothing worse than when
• 44:28
  you go to a comedy show someone and you're the only one laughing
• 44:31
  and you're like, are we gonna have to break up now?
• 44:33
  Oh yeah. Oh, my wife's the worst.
• 44:35
  Like for her style of comedy, I'm like, I don't even know what
• 44:38
  you find funny at all. Like she's like, you're
• 44:40
  hilarious. I'm like, OK, but like, that's
• 44:42
  not good. That's good.
• 44:43
  Yeah, right. But like, I've taken her to see,
• 44:45
  like, a lot of the greats and she's like, I don't know, dude.
• 44:47
  Like that was OK. You know, I get it.
• 44:50
  Some venues, like, like I said, you know, you see Chappelle at
• 44:52
  Scotiabank, you're like, you know, it's hard to get into it.
• 44:56
  You know, we went to see Kevin Hart.
• 44:58
  I was Scotiabank fucking like last row just.
• 45:01
  Bleeding. Yeah, I'm nose just drenched and
• 45:04
  I'm like, this wasn't great, but you know.
• 45:09
  It's all on the venue. It's all on the venue.
• 45:10
  And where you're sitting. Yeah, I mean, I'd like to do
• 45:13
  some movies or some TV or something too, like, you know,
• 45:15
  do some comedy, acting and. Yeah, sure you were.
• 45:18
  Yeah, you were in a Canadian Tire commercial.
• 45:20
  I meant to bring that up to you. Yeah, that was funny it.
• 45:22
  Was whatever dude, I did like 900 takes.
• 45:25
  They chose the worst one. I liked it.
• 45:27
  It was just like an. Yeah, whatever.
• 45:28
  It was fun. We did a bunch of takes.
• 45:30
  A lot of great people on that shoe.
• 45:31
  That was fun. But you know, commercials, I
• 45:33
  don't love them. I'm also the Planet Fitness
• 45:35
  Sasquatch. I don't know if you.
• 45:36
  Know. Oh no.
• 45:38
  Wow. Have you seen those commercials?
• 45:39
  Yeah, I'm going to watch those differently now with a different
• 45:41
  mindset, Yeah. So.
• 45:43
  That's my friend, yeah. The more, dude, I love the
• 45:46
  comedy, acting stuff, you know, like all the sketches.
• 45:49
  That's what I get to do on social media, you know, except
• 45:51
  low budget. But yeah, like, you know, that's
• 45:53
  why I got into it. You know, I wanted to be fucking
• 45:56
  Chris Farley and Mike Myers and do 50 characters and shit.
• 45:59
  So that'd be fun to do something like that.
• 46:01
  Yeah, I love your stuff man appreciate it.
• 46:04
  I I want to close with this and I usually on my podcast with
• 46:07
  with something some. I feel like I have not talked
• 46:10
  about mental health at all like and how I deal with it, which is
• 46:15
  like. You complained a lot.
• 46:17
  No, I'm kidding. Yeah, exactly.
• 46:18
  That's all I do, dude. That's I rant.
• 46:20
  I complain. You know what's funny?
• 46:21
  My wife would say this. My wife would say Mark deals
• 46:24
  with mental health by calling people during the day and saying
• 46:28
  the same story to 40 people. That's good.
• 46:31
  That's that's helpful. That works.
• 46:32
  Man, yeah. Yeah, it's the science.
• 46:34
  There I do find that it works and you get different
• 46:36
  perspectives. It's kind of what I do with
• 46:38
  jokes, like I'll call like 4 different comics to run bit the
• 46:41
  same bit by them, but they're all very different.
• 46:43
  So I'm getting a wide range of, you know?
• 46:45
  Yeah, I mean, in recovery it's the same thing.
• 46:48
  So whenever, every time I relapsed, it was always because
• 46:51
  I had a great idea that I didn't bounce off anybody, right.
• 46:55
  And I always make this joke, but when I have good ideas, like,
• 46:58
  and when I mean good idea, I mean about specifically like,
• 47:01
  I'm feeling this way and I want to fix it.
• 47:05
  And I know what's going to work, right?
• 47:06
  That alcohol, that Band-Aid, that quick solution.
• 47:09
  And then immediately you might have heard this one might not
• 47:11
  have heard this. This is common across all of us.
• 47:13
  Immediately it's like you, you just 100% forget about all the
• 47:18
  bad times. Like it just, it just escapes
• 47:20
  your memory all of a sudden. And you just remember that one
• 47:23
  fucking quick moment that you had where you're like, that was
• 47:26
  fun. Yeah, let's do it.
• 47:27
  That was fun. Luckily I'm I'm further away
• 47:30
  from that now, but it's because I talk to people and I call.
• 47:32
  So I always make the joke that whenever I have this idea of and
• 47:37
  I, I'm like, Nope, that's good. I'm going to do it.
• 47:38
  I'm going to I'm going to start taking ADHD medication again.
• 47:41
  That was one for me. I'm going to get on steroids.
• 47:42
  That was another one for me. And it's just like it's a
• 47:44
  seemingly small thing that kind of grows into this, you know,
• 47:48
  smoking mess again, right? Eventually, right.
• 47:51
  So. Eventually you're like, I'll get
• 47:53
  there. It's coming.
• 47:55
  Yeah, No. It's coming.
• 47:57
  Yeah. So, yeah, just quickly, the the
• 47:59
  thing, the analogy that I like to give is like, it's like me
• 48:02
  performing to an audience of myself.
• 48:04
  And I'm just like, this is my idea.
• 48:05
  And everyone's like, yeah, do it, man.
• 48:07
  That's great, right? It's not a good way to live.
• 48:10
  No, I hear you. I'm trying to think of the
• 48:12
  things that I actually do to cope with stuff.
• 48:15
  Blasting music at an uncomfortable level in my car is
• 48:18
  definitely one. I love long drives.
• 48:22
  Like everyone's like, Oh, I can't believe you.
• 48:23
  I'm like, I want to drive and I would prefer if you weren't in
• 48:26
  the car. You know what I mean?
• 48:27
  Like it's all like like when I'm people like, oh, you're going to
• 48:31
  you want a hotel for the gig? I'm like, no, it's like a four
• 48:33
  hour drive back home at like midnight.
• 48:35
  I would love that. Oh fuck, dude.
• 48:37
  And I'm like have the volume maxed out and just have music
• 48:40
  going. I'll bawl my eyes out sometimes.
• 48:42
  Like, you know, you just you go through your head quite a bit.
• 48:46
  That's great. Or something to really like
• 48:50
  going to the movies. Like the movie theater is one of
• 48:53
  my favorite things on the planet.
• 48:54
  Me too, because you don't you're not looking at your phone.
• 48:57
  You're fully submerged into this piece of art, if you will.
• 49:00
  Couldn't agree with anymore for that period of time and it
• 49:02
  really pulls you out of it. It's like any live stuff.
• 49:04
  Like I go see bands all the time.
• 49:06
  Like anytime I go see something live where you got to be in it
• 49:10
  is the best because it it pulls you out of it.
• 49:12
  You have to pay attention, you get submerged into it, you go on
• 49:15
  this journey that they mean for you to go on, and then all of a
• 49:18
  sudden you're like, oh, I forgot 2.
• 49:19
  Hours. You're not thinking about
• 49:20
  yourself. Yeah, and you know what's funny?
• 49:22
  One of the best. I have to sit up because this is
• 49:25
  fucking. Impressive, I mean.
• 49:27
  Fuck, by the end of it my chin's eating my neck.
• 49:30
  But this conversation, one of the best messages I've ever
• 49:35
  gotten in my life. This guy sends me a message
• 49:37
  being like hey man don't mean to bother you but it was like a
• 49:41
  fucking essay of a thing. Doesn't matter.
• 49:44
  He goes. I was planning on killing myself
• 49:45
  today and I was taking a shit this morning to have my whole
• 49:51
  day planned out of exactly how I was going to do it.
• 49:54
  I had letters pre written and ready to go, but on the toilet I
• 49:58
  got doom scrolling on your page and laughed at like a bunch of
• 50:03
  videos and I totally forgot to go and kill myself.
• 50:07
  And I was like, all right, that's sick.
• 50:10
  And he was like, yeah, he's like I I like my plan was to get up
• 50:14
  and go to like Home Depot and buy stuff.
• 50:17
  You know what I mean? He's like, I was going to go and
• 50:18
  like execute this plan that I had.
• 50:21
  But when I got off the shooter, like I just started my day like
• 50:23
  a normal day. Like I, I laughed, I got up and
• 50:25
  then just like unconsciously made a coffee and then made
• 50:28
  breakfast and then went to the gym.
• 50:29
  Like, and like, it hit me while I was at the gym that, like, I
• 50:33
  didn't kill myself today because I got sucked into your videos.
• 50:37
  Wow. And I was like, it's pretty
• 50:39
  powerful. Oh, dude, it blew me away.
• 50:40
  I was like, OK, this is a message that, like, I put on my
• 50:44
  wall. And when my dad says you're a
• 50:46
  loser, I go, yeah, yeah. Have you stopped anybody?
• 50:52
  No, but like have you prevented suicide today?
• 50:54
  Yeah, you have never. So you probably encouraged it by
• 50:57
  a few people at your work. You know, that I think you suck,
• 51:00
  but no, but I like, I've gotten quite a few messages like that,
• 51:04
  not that detailed, quite a few people being like, hey, I've
• 51:07
  been in a dark place. Your videos helped me out,
• 51:10
  whatever, you know? So that's half the reason why I
• 51:12
  do what I do. And those moments when things
• 51:16
  are in a dark place or whatever, you're like, OK, A, I'm grateful
• 51:20
  that I do what I like to do in the 1st place.
• 51:23
  B It helps a lot of people see a lot of people feel inspired for
• 51:28
  some reason. And I that sounds like the most
• 51:30
  egotistical thing I've ever said.
• 51:32
  But like I stumbled in on a conversation at STL, actually at
• 51:35
  our old high school and like the teachers were using me as an
• 51:39
  example of like monetizing something that you're interested
• 51:43
  in and turning it into a career and like things take time and
• 51:47
  whatever. Just using me as an example of a
• 51:49
  road less traveled, if you will, as if I'm like some great
• 51:52
  success story and I'm like, I live with my none the dude.
• 51:56
  Don't listen to these guys, whatever, you know, and like as
• 51:59
  much as I joked about it, I was like, I was blown away that
• 52:02
  like, you know, a lot of these kids followed me, their families
• 52:06
  friend, like follow me and family and friends follow me.
• 52:08
  And so like, I don't know, I was just blown away by that.
• 52:11
  And I was like, OK, when shit gets tough, it could be so much
• 52:14
  fucking worse. Like, you see what you open up
• 52:16
  your Instagram in the last two weeks, you're like, it's crazy
• 52:20
  how many people are dying and going through the craziest shit
• 52:22
  on the planet. So the fact that I'm at The Keg
• 52:25
  at midnight in Montreal and their kitchen is staying open
• 52:29
  for us because they're fans or they came to the show.
• 52:34
  What the fuck am I complaining about?
• 52:36
  You know what I mean? Yeah, you're like, life is
• 52:38
  great, so I can't complain. I have a podcast, buddy.
• 52:43
  I'm done to complain and rant all day long, which is my
• 52:47
  therapy. Nice.
• 52:48
  I also have had a life coach and multiple therapists over the
• 52:52
  years, so you know what I mean. There you go, talking to people
• 52:54
  and listening to music, drowning myself home.
• 52:57
  Have you answered that quickly? You answered that very well.
• 53:01
  So yeah, I do. Hope so, my God.
• 53:06
  I I I'm being honest when I say like, I don't laugh out loud a
• 53:10
  lot at Instagram videos, but whenever I watch yours,
• 53:12
  especially the nono stuff, because it's so relatable.
• 53:15
  I think so relatable. A lot of comedy is like, can the
• 53:18
  audience relate to what I'm what I'm saying?
• 53:20
  For sure could do they yeah, me too.
• 53:23
  Like and dude, that's me too. That's hilarious.
• 53:27
  But I that's all of it. Like there's a stupid movie.
• 53:31
  I can't believe I'm going to reference this.
• 53:33
  There's a movie called August Rush.
• 53:34
  Have you seen that? No.
• 53:36
  Is it August Rush? Gold I.
• 53:39
  Think it's called August Rush? Should I watch it?
• 53:42
  No. Yeah.
• 53:43
  It's OK. It's about a kid who's like a
• 53:45
  musical genius, whatever, and he makes music based off the sounds
• 53:48
  he has like a hyper hearing disability.
• 53:51
  But like he's in like he's sitting on the subway train and
• 53:54
  he's like listening to traffic and like noises and he notices
• 53:58
  that they go in patterns and rhythms and then creates music
• 54:00
  out of it. And this whole thing is like the
• 54:03
  music's all around us. Comedy's the exact same way.
• 54:06
  We're like, I'll go through something and I'm like, I know
• 54:10
  because this is literally everything.
• 54:11
  I know that 9000 other people have gone through this exact
• 54:15
  thing. It's all been talked about.
• 54:17
  And like you, I noticed that when I got married and I had a
• 54:20
  kid, specifically when I got married, when I got married, so
• 54:23
  many things fell into place with like other comments when I would
• 54:27
  watch comedy before I got married about guys talking about
• 54:30
  their wives. Like all the premises are like
• 54:32
  the same 10 premises really. And they're all taking their
• 54:36
  take on it. And you like you can listen to
• 54:38
  comics from like the 50s, dude. Like you listen to Richard Pryor
• 54:41
  talk about marriage and kids. You're like, I'm going through
• 54:45
  this exact same thing. Do you know what I mean?
• 54:46
  So it's all relatable. Everyone has family, everyone's
• 54:49
  got a grandfather, grandmother, whatever, you know what I mean?
• 54:51
  It's like the more I don't know, people are like, I struggle with
• 54:55
  finding content or what to do. I'm like, what did you do today?
• 54:58
  Did you stub your toe getting out of bed Good. 10 million
• 55:01
  people have done that. Start with that.
• 55:03
  Start with that. Like.
• 55:04
  It's just it's all around you at all times.
• 55:06
  You just have to find a way to display it.
• 55:10
  In in your perspective, I don't know if you've ever read Rick
• 55:12
  Rubin's book Creative Way. He talks about that a lot and I
• 55:16
  love it. I'm reading it right now.
• 55:17
  I'm like halfway through. He talks about like, we're all
• 55:19
  kind of this like. Yeah, nothing's been done.
• 55:22
  Just. Experiencing and everything
• 55:24
  you've ever done has been done. Before, Yeah, sorry,
• 55:25
  everything's been done and nothing's.
• 55:27
  New and nothing's new. And you, it's just you're
• 55:29
  putting your perspective on it. What you're creating is not for
• 55:31
  the audience, it's for you. And you're just taking in the
• 55:33
  world and then regurgitating it. It's it's so true.
• 55:36
  Your content is all around you. You know your inspiration is all
• 55:39
  around you, right? I can't listen to him talk much
• 55:43
  so his. Audio book.
• 55:44
  I listen to the audio book. I didn't read the book book
• 55:46
  because I'll never get through it, but like I was listening to
• 55:48
  his audio book. I hate when it's the guy I know.
• 55:51
  Like really? I used to love that.
• 55:53
  Yeah, you hate when it's the guy reading his own book.
• 55:55
  Yeah, because I'm like, this sounds so much more pretentious.
• 55:57
  Or they'll try to read it. Yeah, yeah, A.
• 56:00
  Reader, I'm like, no, man, you don't sound like that, you know,
• 56:03
  because I listen to him in interviews and I love it.
• 56:05
  I've watched every Rick Rubin interview ever.
• 56:07
  But then in his audio book, I'm like, OK, dude, stop narrating
• 56:10
  Harry Potter here. Like, you're killing me.
• 56:12
  Like, you know what? Like, you just end up putting me
• 56:14
  to bed, you know? So I try to like, you know, when
• 56:17
  they do it. Like I think Jordan Peterson
• 56:19
  does that too. Where he tries to read his own
• 56:22
  kind of in, in the way that you that he thinks it should be
• 56:24
  read. Yeah, and I know that's the
• 56:26
  point, but like have some like, you know, some British guy who
• 56:30
  was just like, you know, just I was walking down the street and
• 56:32
  I know just like whatever, you know, you have to shit.
• 56:35
  Oh, you don't have to. Just saying like all together.
• 56:38
  Oh, OK, OK. Yeah, I'm good.
• 56:39
  I don't give a shit. I'll do stuff to the camera
• 56:42
  myself. What else do I do about mental
• 56:47
  health? Talk to people on the phone.
• 56:54
  I doom scroll, man. Fuck.
• 56:57
  Scrolling is one of those things that really just gets you.
• 57:02
  You ever noticed that where you're like you're scrolling and
• 57:05
  all of a sudden it's like an hour and a half later?
• 57:07
  You ever dropped the phone on your face?
• 57:10
  What a fuck. That's when I know I'm like,
• 57:12
  you're not in bed. You're going to bed and you're
• 57:15
  like elbow and like hands go numb completely and you're like,
• 57:20
  wow, I've been doing this for two hours.
• 57:22
  But it's it's the same thing as going to the moves.
• 57:23
  Like, you just feel like, OK, let me find something to either
• 57:28
  learn or laugh at. Like I don't go to bed until
• 57:31
  I've like laughed out loud because there's some nights,
• 57:33
  dude, you try to replicate it every night.
• 57:35
  Like I'll be scrolling and I'll find something that makes me
• 57:40
  laugh harder than I've laughed in like a month.
• 57:43
  Then the next night you're like, OK, I got to find that again.
• 57:47
  Or you watch the same meme dude. You ever watch the same meme
• 57:50
  over and over again? I watch this one meme dude where
• 57:53
  like this guy comes, his wife and him are taking the dog for a
• 57:57
  walk and then he trips over the dog and falls into the fucking
• 58:02
  garden and like crashes the garden table over.
• 58:05
  It's one of the funniest things ever and he's like sham it.
• 58:09
  You ever seen that? No, I'm talking to the camera
• 58:11
  about other ways. Talking to the audience.
• 58:13
  Talking to the audience about how I cope with things, I was
• 58:16
  saying doom scrolling is one of those things.
• 58:18
  Yeah, that's a, that's a rough one because hours will go by and
• 58:21
  you just. Hours.
• 58:22
  Yeah, but like I was saying, like, I love it when you find a
• 58:24
  gem. Like I'll find something where I
• 58:25
  laugh at it. Yeah, harder than I've laughed
• 58:27
  all month. Yeah.
• 58:28
  So then that's like the next night I'm like fuck I hope I
• 58:31
  find a fucking gem dude. You know you're like addicted to
• 58:34
  the the next laugh, right? You're like, it has to be
• 58:36
  better. That's my whole career, dude.
• 58:39
  Yeah, my career in a nutshell. Wait, you?
• 58:42
  You mean you you'd want to find a gem for yourself?
• 58:45
  No, I want to find a gym to like, laugh.
• 58:47
  I laugh harder. Yeah, yeah, but my career in a
• 58:49
  nutshell is the next laugh. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 58:52
  It's a good comedy name. Like that on your shirt?
• 58:54
  No. Yeah.
• 58:55
  It's a good comedy album. Yeah, there.
• 58:57
  You go. You're welcome the.
• 58:58
  Last laugh, the next laugh. Yeah, and when you're famous,
• 59:00
  you can all tribute to recovering a Loud podcast.
• 59:02
  Oh, 100. Percent, yeah.
• 59:04
  You know who you look like? You kind of look like a.
• 59:07
  Fergie's boyfriend. Who?
• 59:10
  Who's that? Josh Duhamel.
• 59:14
  No, I. See, I've been, I've been told
• 59:16
  that before, but also I think I'm better than I am, so.
• 59:20
  You look like like if your brother was an alcoholic it
• 59:27
  would be Strombo George Strombo Lavas.
• 59:29
  Oh yeah, like an older brother, Yeah.
• 59:31
  Like Strombo could easily be your older brother that used to
• 59:34
  just bully the shit out of you and like.
• 59:36
  Well, he's doing well so. He's doing really well, but he
• 59:38
  looks like he's. Been strung out?
• 59:41
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. He looks like unfortunate
• 59:43
  because I don't think he ever was.
• 59:44
  No, sorry, George, if you're watching this, he follows me.
• 59:46
  We've chatted before. George, listen, I don't think
• 59:50
  that you look like that, all right?
• 59:51
  I'm just saying it's. OK, he'll never see this, don't
• 59:53
  worry. He'll see it.
• 59:54
  I'm going to make him. I'm going to send this to him.
• 59:56
  Don't clip this out. Yeah, I don't, I don't think.
• 1:00:01
  Thank you though. That's a compliment.
• 1:00:02
  He's a good looking guy. Yeah, and if I could be half as
• 1:00:06
  popular, no wrong word. If I could be half as successful
• 1:00:09
  as him, I'd be happy. I don't want to be popular.
• 1:00:11
  I don't like limelight. I don't, but a part of me does.
• 1:00:15
  It's. Such a weird balance because
• 1:00:17
  it's like it goes hand in hand. It's like, well, if you're
• 1:00:21
  popular, you'll get all the other things, you know what I
• 1:00:24
  mean, that come with it that you probably want.
• 1:00:26
  Yeah, it should be a bonus, right?
• 1:00:27
  It should be a a result, you know?
• 1:00:29
  Do you get noticed in public? It's ridiculous really, eh?
• 1:00:33
  I hate I that was the worst, like the most egotistical answer
• 1:00:36
  ever, but like it's it's great to.
• 1:00:38
  Be honest so. It's quite a bit.
• 1:00:40
  I'm grateful, but also sometimes it's like you're at the kids
• 1:00:44
  park waiting for me. Yeah, that's crazy.
• 1:00:46
  So what do they want? Like a selfie or?
• 1:00:48
  Yeah. Which is fine.
• 1:00:49
  Like I don't. I love meeting everybody.
• 1:00:50
  I'm blown away that it even happened.
• 1:00:52
  Yeah, I know. Like.
• 1:00:52
  Like, it's insane. It's like I feel like I'm a
• 1:00:54
  nobody and I don't think I'm anybody at all.
• 1:00:58
  But it's like especially when I'm with people who've known me
• 1:01:01
  forever and they and it happens, they're like, what the fuck is
• 1:01:03
  this? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:04
  I'm like, I know, dude. It's ridiculous.
• 1:01:06
  Like I'll be at the mall with my kids and like someone will see
• 1:01:08
  my kid and notice my kid. Jesus.
• 1:01:11
  Yeah, they'll be like, Oh my God.
• 1:01:12
  Oh, and see my wife and I'm like, is your husband here?
• 1:01:15
  Like my wife has been getting noticed, she tells me.
• 1:01:17
  And I'm like, what the fuck? You're not in anything, you
• 1:01:20
  know. This isn't what I wanted.
• 1:01:21
  Yeah, and I mean, like, it's fine, dude.
• 1:01:23
  Like, I love it. Again, it all goes back to that
• 1:01:27
  DM dude. It's like for them, dude, it's
• 1:01:29
  changing their day. They're excited to meet me just
• 1:01:32
  because I make videos. Like incredible, dude.
• 1:01:34
  Like, it's incredible. Yeah, that's great, man.
• 1:01:37
  If you could, if you could say something to a, you know, a
• 1:01:40
  comic that's just starting out or a creator or somebody that
• 1:01:44
  you know is struggling right now with with where they're going to
• 1:01:47
  go next with their career and what they're going to do.
• 1:01:49
  They want to do this full time. What would you say to that
• 1:01:51
  person? In comedy specifically.
• 1:01:52
  Or, or any general, but yeah, let do comedy because I think
• 1:01:56
  that's pretty unique. And don't do it, buddy.
• 1:02:00
  Yeah, turn around. Yeah.
• 1:02:03
  No, no, do it. Don't take it too seriously
• 1:02:07
  'cause you have to have fun. You know what I mean?
• 1:02:09
  When people take it too seriously and they're too in the
• 1:02:11
  weeds of things, like they're like get too.
• 1:02:15
  You get lost in the minutia of things.
• 1:02:19
  Big word is it? I don't even know how to spell
• 1:02:21
  it. Yeah.
• 1:02:21
  Neither do I. Minutia.
• 1:02:23
  I'd ask tragedy to you. Talk to minutia anyways, so you
• 1:02:28
  just like I know, just have fun and don't take it too seriously.
• 1:02:30
  Sounds like the most like it sounds like a fucking Robin
• 1:02:32
  Williams book cover. Like do that.
• 1:02:36
  Like do that. Because if the audience is
• 1:02:38
  coming to see you and have fun, if you're not having fun, how
• 1:02:43
  are they supposed to have fun? If you take things too
• 1:02:46
  seriously, you won't progress. You know what I mean?
• 1:02:49
  Like, you can't. You got to let the haters roll
• 1:02:52
  off your back. If you have a bad set, it's got
• 1:02:55
  to roll off your back. You have to do the next one.
• 1:02:58
  Like you just can't, you know, don't.
• 1:03:00
  You're a comedian. Everything's a joke.
• 1:03:03
  That's the problem that we face with regular people.
• 1:03:07
  Let's call it non comms. That's what we call non comms.
• 1:03:10
  That's great. Yeah.
• 1:03:12
  Oh, I've never heard that. Yeah, non comms.
• 1:03:14
  The problem is we take we find the joke everywhere and we're
• 1:03:18
  like, that's a muscle you work at all the time.
• 1:03:21
  It's like let's find the funny everywhere.
• 1:03:23
  So like when I'm at a funeral and I'm laughing at something or
• 1:03:26
  like I can't compose myself or like I say a joke to my brother
• 1:03:29
  and he's fucking like vibrating next to me laughing to tears and
• 1:03:34
  people think he's crying. Like it gets you in trouble.
• 1:03:37
  But like, you know, that's the point, right?
• 1:03:38
  Like we're always trying to find that.
• 1:03:41
  So if you're taking things too seriously, you're you're going
• 1:03:44
  to limit yourself. So nice.
• 1:03:47
  Where can we find you, Mark? Everywhere and anywhere, baby at
• 1:03:51
  not Mark Anthony on all platforms.
• 1:03:53
  Mark with AC, not with AK. Yeah, don't.
• 1:03:56
  Fuck that up. Don't.
• 1:03:57
  Fuck that up. But if you type it in with AK,
• 1:03:58
  it will still come up, which is great.
• 1:03:59
  So, yeah, Mark anthony.com. Any shows coming up?
• 1:04:04
  Nah dude, not. Yet.
• 1:04:06
  I got a big tour coming up in the fall, another big, it's
• 1:04:10
  coming up. I got a lot of things coming up
• 1:04:12
  like, but nothing like Set in Stone that I can release at the
• 1:04:15
  moment. So, but yeah, I'm always posting
• 1:04:18
  about stuff. So if you want to see me live
• 1:04:20
  there, I will be always promoting to see me.
• 1:04:24
  Beautiful dude. I appreciate you so much.
• 1:04:26
  Thanks for coming down. Appreciate you.
• 1:04:27
  It's hot as fuck. Thank you.
• 1:04:29
  You're a good dude. It's 38° in the studio guys, but
• 1:04:34
  it's actually shocking. Like it's, it's crazy because
• 1:04:36
  I'm not sweating much here, but like I'm going to get up.
• 1:04:38
  My back is going to be just. You're like a duck.
• 1:04:40
  It's all happening under the water.
• 1:04:42
  Everything looks good. Up to That's hilarious.
• 1:04:44
  But everything but you're fuck. Yeah, that seems like an analogy
• 1:04:47
  at a mental health place. How'd you know?
• 1:04:49
  It has to be, yeah. Everything's OK except I'm
• 1:04:51
  drinking like crazy and I can't stop smoking meth.
• 1:04:54
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