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The Fever Report with John Robertson & Michelle Garmon (2.283.1) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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[SPEAKER_02]: You are listening to the fever report with John Robertson and Michelle Garmin, every week on the Central Indiana Sports Report.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Warning, there is a tiny bit of adult language and themes in this podcast.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You've been more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome fever fans to the Central Indiana Sports Report for this week's fever report with John Robertson and Michelle Garmin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm Greg Mingele.
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[SPEAKER_02]: here to talk some fever basketball after three straight wins, including we're recording late Saturday after an 85 75 win in Connecticut over the sun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Also wins over Washington, and Chicago all three dramatic wins.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Competitive games late into the fourth quarter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All three games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we're starting to see the real Caitlyn Clark and Alia Boston that we come to expect winning streak aside.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's their good signs that we're seeing from
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like the fact that we've won three in a row.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a little nervous about how we're winning these games against teams we should be beating by more than we are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to take away from the positive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's very positive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm likely that we're winning, but we should not have been only three points ahead with two minutes to go against Connecticut.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We shouldn't have had, we shouldn't have blown a double
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[SPEAKER_01]: It shouldn't have taken a Caitlyn Clark long bomb at the last second to win against Washington, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's exciting basketball and I like that we're winning and like the teams finding a way to make it happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is very positive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to sound like a negative Nancy, but with the level of talent we have, we shouldn't be in this scrappy games against these teams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I agree with you, there's positives, but I'm having a little bit of a concern.
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[SPEAKER_00]: John, I totally agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The positive thing is, they've won through an arrow, but this inconsistency, and I'm sorry, but I think the sun's the worst team I've seen in a long time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just not very good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And to be up like they were, and then to let a team like that back in, that's very concerning to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the sun doesn't have definitely the Achilles heel of the fever, and the fact like Brittany Griner is big tall on like clogs up the pain, and the fever is struggling in size.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, agree with you that they are terrible, but the fever did a nice job of a lot of offense and rebounds today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What makes a son terrible, they don't have any guards to challenge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's why I'm really disappointed that the fever kind of lost that lead like that because.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's been there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's been there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's been happened all three games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They'll get up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they just let they just stop playing when they get a lead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's a mentality thing, maybe I'm just imagining it, but it feels like they're playing down to or up to their competition every single game, rather than just playing their game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When they're playing a team against that's above 500 or a solid team, they play against Atlanta, they came out and they played hard and fast and decisive dominant game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They play against Washington, Connecticut, and Chicago, and they're just barely scraping by.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, it just, it feels like they're just matching the level of whoever their opponent is, and that's all there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I might, it might be that, as far as the mystics and the sky are concerned, they do have guards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the mystics, they do have guards that can shoot and they have some guards that are good at off the dribble drive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think Sonya Citron is got to be a very tough matchup just because of her size as a guard and she's
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[SPEAKER_00]: very physical, but very talented.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's got a lot of tools in her tool belt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And in Keke's good, I like Washington a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think in the next couple of years, they're going to be a problem.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're right there with Dallas as far as good young talent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: for the future.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I miss.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Need a last second long month.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm that game concerns me a little just because of the way the fever are our plan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're blowing leads.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Letting teams back in late and things like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They just can't sustain a level of play for four quarters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't even sustain a level of play for three and a half quarters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you maybe write it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They do play down to their competition, but you can't do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And think you're going to be a WNBA champion when it's all said and done.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, guys, I don't, I think that the way they're playing right now is not going to be the point until we get late in the season and I still think they're working through kinks of being a fairly new team together.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What I see this positive is a Caitlyn Clark that's coming out every night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're not hearing about any injuries.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's looking to like herself more and more all the time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's taken charge more and more all the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but John, I don't know about you, but 13 13 turnovers by guards tonight, including 10 by our two night parking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a theory on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a theory on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the sun, bother me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a theory on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a theory on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a theory on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a theory on that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but here's my thing with the turnovers with the fever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's their style of play is going to lead to more turnovers no matter what, because they take risky passes and they make their, they're running fast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So sometimes those came late when they were blowing that lead and that should never happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's when you, that's when you don't take the
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's when you play smart time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're just risky passes that if they get there, it's like an easy to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I actually like that they're going for those because when they work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, you're speaking like a fan and not like a coach.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a gambler, Mitchell.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And sometimes the gamble pays off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's getting to the playoff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't be having those kind of gamblers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to gamble the Caitlin Clark and Kelsey Mitchell are good enough to figure out the turnover situation and fix it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's, that's why I'm not concerned about it at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and I want to mention that Kelsey had some really good assists in the Chicago game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you guys saw the highlights.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But Kelsey had, I was actually frustrated.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't give her the assist of the game on the jumbo trot because it was literally the assist of the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She does, you guys remember when Larry Bird did that no look behind his head to somebody trail in him?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kelsey did that, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was Kiki.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was Kiki.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, it was the gorgeous since she didn't get
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, they're they're they're working on I think the biggest struggle really if we went out like they're look they're getting better I agree with you Greg they're getting better and there's a lot of positives I just think the things that are are holding them back is the ball security There's too many just like dropped passes miss dribbles whatever whatever just given them all the way for silly reasons That's one and they struggle when they get slowed down on a half-court offense because
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think in Chicago, maybe I figured which game it was, there was at least four Shot Clock Violations.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Four or five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Sophie said it best in her post game interview tonight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I liked what she did tonight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I loved her post game because she said, you always have to be ready for when your numbers called and take a man at, you know, for your opportunity to step up, she did that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But she also said that,
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[SPEAKER_00]: The fever and she's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The offense is much better when the ball's moving around and that's great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do think that our guards, Caitlin and even Kelsey, to some extent, the last couple games have got when they get into that hot court, they tend to dribble around too much and then they go for passes that you don't like and then they get turned over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, or they dribble around too much and they get a pass and then you have to hurry a shot because it's you're deep into deep into the shot clock.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I just feel like they don't realize how the shot clock they are sometimes because like even as fans we started counting down at five or like you know we're in the balcony but we started on the five four three just so they always kneel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like I don't want it to be a negative podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm with you Greg.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We definitely need to keep it positive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of good to take away here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Lots of good
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[SPEAKER_01]: there's just some concerns that I hope that they pull out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, questionally move forward.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've put a pretty easy schedule and they've had a hard time getting date and five.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They have not been a good team to this point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just think the things that are causing the issues are not going to be major issues later in the year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, but defense is still causing them an issue and that I, I think, I think the defense has gotten way better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the ex, it's been a point in a quarter last week in the Chicago game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not good defense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It has gotten better for sure, but it's never going to be the strength of this team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and you're right, and it's not because you have two guards that are best adequate on defense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're great offensive players, but on the defensive floor, on the defensive end, they're adequate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Caitlyn's best when she can do it when the other team doesn't have a guard it really has to be guarded and she can go double team or playoff ball and snap passes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's never, she's a good help defender.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She, and a good, she, she, she, she have a good voice on hold of vendor for guarding a top person that can shoot out slide as far as denying in that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's not a denial type of defense of player and really are completely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mitchell is an either but Mitchell is just a little bit quicker than Caitlin so when she takes a gamble defensively sometimes, she can do it because she's so quick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like it because she does it because it you can get burned as often as you can come up with that but at least she has the quickness to make it work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But hey John, I want to talk about your point your favorite player because I thought really until those couple of those late turnovers that
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I love her stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you guys know I love her, but I love her style of puzzle and she's always fighting for a rebound or a steal or just a disrupt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's on the ground almost as much as Pascal Siakim though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you that much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She is, but I love, I mean, like 11 offensive rebounds in the last two games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's really good because she's one of those perimeter players that doesn't, you know, which shows how she's reading the ball and just getting down underneath when the shot goes up to grab those boards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's a difference maker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It may not always show up in the points, which she's definitely a difference maker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I also think that it helps having a Lea Boston sometimes it bothers me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She plays so far out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: on the offense, but I've come to realize it's because I think really, she may be their second best passer outside.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like that her three has been consistent actually lately.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like, I don't want her to take a ton, but I like that it's been there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to actually say the thing about Leah Boston lately, her inside shot has looked awful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's made of these amount of points, so I don't want to rip on her, but she's almost shooting from the hip angel restyle the last couple of games
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[SPEAKER_01]: Boston.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to quit that looks terrible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, she's playing well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't take the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't it doesn't look good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's missed some shots that I didn't think she should miss.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's shooting from real low, which she normally didn't need to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's playing fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's playing good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think part of that may be her trying to adjust because of the out trouble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like tonight, she really didn't lower her shoulder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She used her shoulder, well, how I call it legally to get a little bit of a bump and, you know, separation to make that shot instead of lowering it and then going up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, but I noticed because of that, not trying to create that separation, she's also, and part of it, I'm sure is because it was Brittany Griner at six seven, but she's fading away and she's, and she's fading away at times,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'll take that over there was one in Washington where the vendor had like stopped and was just looking at her and then Boston dropped her shoulder into her and got the offense of foul and I'm like, why did there wasn't even necessary you could have just pulled up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, let's not forget.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, none of these are like super criticisms.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, of course.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We all know, I obviously love pretty much everybody on the team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't think of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like now, but I think about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like my shines, Alan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's exactly what I'm saying, John.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know I curr a ton.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man, where is she?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dude, she and Sophie have got a connection now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: it is funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like here's the thing I noticed the other night is Hind's Allen gets that block on Sheldon and like does this like monster scream right like and like Sophie you could tell because Sophie was a plan that night she was like oh I love it that was sick maybe insert an expletive in there and then so tonight oh yeah it's the standard over yeah yeah
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was, they were like, they took her, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Caitlyn and Lexi both stood over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So then after that happens, tonight Sophie goes off, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sophie goes off for 10 points in the last minute and 10 seconds or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Heinz Allen comes over and says, do it, flex for me, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is the like roar face and, and it's so competitive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I love the connection that they have got to, that they're both like we're not gonna take anything, we're gonna be defenders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nine o'clock.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And even if she has a 10 trillion in the box court tonight, 10 followed by a bunch of zeros, she's still valuable because of those kinds of things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hi, I agree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the energy she brings is fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you know, I love Sophie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I highly, I like her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think she struggles against certain types of teams, but then there's other types of teams that she flourishes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and is really good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the types of team she struggles against is just a maybe a couple.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's she's so valuable in the others.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's not out there to score, but like so any time she like the other night, I think she had a decent amount of points.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I'm talking about there's a couple of team she struggles to guard defensively.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When you're in there, you're job like in that spot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not necessarily a score, but it is to defend and to rebound.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's a very good
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[SPEAKER_01]: 25 against Chicago just fired.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's a matchup player.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not saying that wasn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's not one of the teams I was thinking about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I can't think of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But there is a team out there that they're just really quick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They have quick guards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have super big forwards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It kind of run a lot like the fever up and down and run.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not a team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not she that's not a post.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, then that's where we have to trust Coach White to actually know how to do good rotation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I think she has and she's done some pull back some on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to go back real quick and give Kudos to both Caitlin and Alia for their games against the sky to become the first set of teammates to record double doubles with, uh, I believe Alia's was 34 points and 12 rebounds and Caitlin's was 32 points and 10 assessed and that's just that's outstanding.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Boston had 34, Katelyn had 32, and then Kelsey had almost 20, she had 19.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was like the big three had massive games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A couple more roster things, and we're going to talk a little bit about the commissioner's cup and the situation there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I assume it's a pretty good situation since they won three games in a row.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll get that update from John.
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[SPEAKER_02]: very encouraged by Michaela Timpton starting to get consistent with tonight in a night out and a little concerned about Raven Johnson and why she's not playing more minutes of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thoughts on those two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like something had to be up with Raven tonight because she had been playing more minutes and coach why they've been using her in defensive situations.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's sub-cate one out and put which I like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like that for into game defensive stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's smart.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you'll see the Caitlyn stands, not understand why they're
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a much raving is a much better defender.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Caitlyn's obviously the better player and the one we went in all the time, but like, you know, raving is a much better defender.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She had three minutes tonight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Something had to have happened for her to be only three minutes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did notice after you guys talked about it in the group thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She had her warm up jacket on on the bench.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Something had to have happened to like stop her from continuing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and John, I thought I'd may have seen Volky, like she maybe had that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the back, the back thing that they're using, you know, there's like pulse things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's not a heavy girl and I don't I shouldn't say heavy, but she's slender and you could tell that the shirt was kind of tight over something and it looked like it might have been a some type of brace.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She probably took a shoulder from Brittany Griner to the face that we didn't get called.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's been doing that since her days at Baylor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of the reasons I have never liked her as a player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Timston minutes I like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've enjoyed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the thing I would like to see more out of Timston is just confidence in her play because her play has been pretty solid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The minute she's getting, she's doing good work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's just a little timid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the only the only slight nitpick I have for because, honestly, her production has been pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, I think she's got better defensively almost each game when she's out there in the minute situations.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's nice because the fever have got whether it's timpsy coming off the bench or whether it's buildings or whatever, it would be nice to find that fourth option.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Especially the second kind of post-type score, especially since Boston plays out top so much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think, again, it's because she's a good pastor and a ball handler.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm hoping, Timson can step into that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And even, you know, maybe it gets some of those teams where they're small and quick and they go up and down because Timson can get up and down the floor pretty well herself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she's not great at it, but if they have one post and Boston's on the bench, she's good enough to do that.
19:12
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, John, I believe the fever now four and one and the commissioner's cover is at three and one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Four and one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: the sun and the mystics, but they lost in New York.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They play on Tuesday versus the tempo after the last commissioner's come game, but they're going to need New York to lose their next two games, somehow to the sky and the mystics because New York owns the tie break.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's very, very unlikely that Indiana is going to get to advance to the commissioner cup finals this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The one lost in
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[SPEAKER_01]: And also just the fact that the every favorite game has been close right like they've all been close in the standings for this the type rate comes down to differential and the head to head.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if New York loses both.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Somehow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe that the fever will beat the tempo on Tuesday and be at five and one.
20:07
[SPEAKER_01]: But they just have to have New York lose to and I just don't see it happening.
20:12
[SPEAKER_02]: And as we record this late Saturday the score is 57 51 aces a half time so interesting in the west as well.
20:21
[SPEAKER_02]: So it looks like a few teams have kind of separated themselves right now.
20:25
[SPEAKER_02]: It didn't look like they're going to early now they really have.
20:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Minnesota, Olivia Miles has looked so, so good.
20:34
[SPEAKER_01]: If you think about it in the last three years, there's been one definitive standout rookie, Caitlin, and last year with Paige, and now Olivia Miles.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I know Michelle is a big Olivia Miles fan going way back.
20:48
[SPEAKER_00]: She's an outstanding point garden, there's no fear.
20:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Olivia Miles has since she's been playing basketball, she's never like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: confidence.
20:59
[SPEAKER_00]: At least since I've watched her, that would have been from her freshman year at Notre Dame, until she finished their TCU and you wouldn't know now.
21:08
[SPEAKER_00]: She missed like two years or a year and a half with the injuries.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's healed well and she has not really lost a step.
21:17
[SPEAKER_00]: She's really good.
21:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I knew she would be good in the WNBA and when the links got her, I think it could walk.
21:26
[SPEAKER_00]: That team didn't really need her.
21:28
[SPEAKER_01]: See, I was just gonna say I think the links being at 10 and 2 is a surprise.
21:32
[SPEAKER_01]: With the Feesa out, I did not expect the links to be leading the WNBA this early.
21:40
[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, down 11 in the third quarter now to Vegas.
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[SPEAKER_02]: late Saturday night as we're recording.
21:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, those are those are top two teams in the league.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, you're looking at potential finals match up potential.
21:58
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a little early for deciding that.
22:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I've seen enough to declare that everyone's buying for second place to the fever.
22:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the liberty is going to be interesting is I and Esco back yet last time I saw she wasn't back yet.
22:14
[SPEAKER_01]: They have the they have the refs though so the refs will play for them so it's all.
22:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I think an Esco probably helps too.
22:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I don't know how many free stars can she suit a game?
22:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen we haven't talked about the refs at all and I normally don't
22:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we almost never do, but I have to tell you this Chicago game, I have not seen a more hated ref in Gamer's fieldhouse than I, if for a Pacer's or fever, then I did number 44 of the ref squad.
22:50
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a blonde lady with a ponytail and oh my lord, if I've heard some take his whistle calls and I've heard the ref you suck calls, but I'm telling you, if that arena
23:05
[SPEAKER_01]: She would have been dead multiple times because to be fair, she deserved the hate she was getting.
23:11
[SPEAKER_01]: The calls were terrible.
23:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I know refs are supposed to be unbiased, but you could tell that she was pissed off at Caitlin and Stephanie and a couple others.
23:19
[SPEAKER_02]: They'd need to be emotionless and they're just not.
23:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there's human.
23:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I get it.
23:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I get it.
23:24
[SPEAKER_01]: It's impossible.
23:25
[SPEAKER_01]: But you're a professional.
23:26
[SPEAKER_02]: You need to remain fair.
23:29
[SPEAKER_01]: But that one was bad.
23:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Number 44 was bad.
23:33
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll give her a chance for redemption.
23:35
[SPEAKER_01]: If she comes back, maybe she'll be better.
23:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but that night was like, I have not seen anything that's blatantly bad and bias in a long time.
23:45
[SPEAKER_01]: The hatred was strong that night.
23:48
[SPEAKER_01]: It was bad.
23:52
[SPEAKER_01]: But I will say, like as far as the officiating goes, it feels,
23:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Weird if like I think they're trying to call more fouls and not let it be as rough in which is what the player's asked for it was gotten too violent but like.
24:07
[SPEAKER_01]: There's just so much stuff that's getting missed and then the way they were calling the New York game was terrible.
24:16
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not that much better in any other.
24:19
[SPEAKER_01]: WWE games to be honest, you know, I've watched other teams besides just the fever.
24:22
[SPEAKER_01]: The official has not been spectacular, but it's been pretty bad against the fever.
24:28
[SPEAKER_02]: They need to increase their level on a fish eating for sure.
24:31
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just not good enough.
24:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
24:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we'll see what happens.
24:35
[SPEAKER_01]: And in case I haven't said it on this podcast yet, the next.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry for the harsh language, but I mean that from the bottom of my soul.
24:48
[SPEAKER_02]: It is now like the 25, 26 NBA season never happened to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Gonna forget that it ever happened.
24:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks so much to John Amishel.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much for listening.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Go fever.
25:17
[SPEAKER_02]: go paces, man, I hate the mix.
25:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Giant asterisk, maybe you can win a championship, but still can't beat the paces.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Depressing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just depressing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and imagine much worse in life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure do love you, Susie.