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Examined by Extraterrestrials: Seven Shocking Onboard UFO Encounters · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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  Speaker 1: Hello everyone, My name is Preston Dennett. Thank you for
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  Speaker 1: joining me for a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. Today,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to be talking about my absolute favorite aspect
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  Speaker 1: of UFO research, and that is onboard UFO encounters. I
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  Speaker 1: call this episode Examined by Aliens seven Shocking onboard UFO Encounters.
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  Speaker 1: This is perhaps the most controversial aspect of UFO research.
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  Speaker 1: There's quite a lot of debate about it, but the
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  Speaker 1: fact is many people are reporting these experiences. It used
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  Speaker 1: to be thought of as quite rare. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: researchers are now reversing their opinions about that. I know
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  Speaker 1: Jay allen Heinik is quoted as saying as many as
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  Speaker 1: one in forty people have been on board a UFO,
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  Speaker 1: and in nineteen ninety one the Roper Organization did a
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  Speaker 1: poll which found that it could be as many as
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  Speaker 1: one in fifty, very to what Jay allen Heinek says.
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  Speaker 1: At any rate, it's certainly a lot more common than
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  Speaker 1: most people think. Now I've chosen seven cases today, most
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  Speaker 1: I think of which are not well known, and some
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  Speaker 1: are really well verified with some astounding evidence. These cases
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  Speaker 1: come from all over the world, from nineteen sixty eight
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  Speaker 1: to nineteen ninety. But the locations are Italy, Hungary, Australia, Brazil, Colombia,
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  Speaker 1: and two from the United States, including Minnesota and Florida.
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  Speaker 1: What's also really interesting about these cases is that not
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  Speaker 1: one of them has used hypnosis. These are fully conscious encounters,
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  Speaker 1: So we can lay aside any explanations that onboard encounters
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  Speaker 1: are the result of hypnosis or even sleep paralysis, because
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  Speaker 1: these cases show that that explanation certainly does not fit.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, these cases, I think really have a lot
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  Speaker 1: to teach us. They have the most information, far more
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  Speaker 1: information than a sighting or even a landing or a
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  Speaker 1: face to face encounter with a humanoid. People are literally
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  Speaker 1: surrounded by the phenomena they are inside these craft, so
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  Speaker 1: that alone makes these cases very important and certainly very interesting.
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  Speaker 1: So let's just get started. And the first case I'd
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  Speaker 1: like to talk about today I call turned Transparent the
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  Speaker 1: onboard UFO encounter of Pedro Dima. This occurred in July
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  Speaker 1: of nineteen sixty eight in Rio dej Nio, Brazil, and
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  Speaker 1: this is a really interesting case because this gentleman was
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  Speaker 1: taken on board, physically examined by ETS, had a long
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  Speaker 1: conversation with them. In many ways, it is a typical
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  Speaker 1: on board UFO encounter, but some very strange things happened
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  Speaker 1: that I don't know that I've ever heard before. This
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  Speaker 1: extraordinary case first appeared in the July twenty first, nineteen
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  Speaker 1: sixty eight issue of the Brazilian publication Gazetta de Notissius.
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  Speaker 1: The witness is Pedro Dima, who at the time of
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  Speaker 1: his encounter lived at Rua Conciasso twelve in Rio desian Aio, Brazil.
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  Speaker 1: He worked as a civil servant. But it was around
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  Speaker 1: eleven pm on July twenty first, nineteen sixty eight, when
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  Speaker 1: Pedro was walking along the Saul Paolo Highway the Estrada
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  Speaker 1: dos Bandierantes near a Catholic seminary known as Educandario dom Basco,
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  Speaker 1: when suddenly, coming from above his head, he heard a loud,
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  Speaker 1: humming noise. It very quickly began to increase in intensity,
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  Speaker 1: when suddenly he was blinded by a powerful beam of light.
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  Speaker 1: At that moment, two green lights appeared next to him,
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  Speaker 1: apparently attached to a craft of some kind, and he
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  Speaker 1: saw that it had actually landed right next to him
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  Speaker 1: on the street. The door quickly opened and four humanoids
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  Speaker 1: stepped out. They were very short, just under two feet tall,
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  Speaker 1: he said, the head strangely shaped heads, and appeared to
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  Speaker 1: have greenish skin or perhaps clothes, and were wearing what
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  Speaker 1: looked like headphone like devices on their heads. They immediately
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  Speaker 1: ran towards Pedro, who, now terrified, found himself unable to move.
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  Speaker 1: He was held, as he said quote as though by
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  Speaker 1: hypnotic force. He said that at this point his arms
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  Speaker 1: and legs felt cold, his muscles felt strange, his head
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  Speaker 1: was spinning, and he was unable to speak, though he
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  Speaker 1: still remained fully conscious of what was happening around him. Now,
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  Speaker 1: although he saw no mouths on the being's faces, they
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  Speaker 1: began to speak to him in his native language of Portuguese,
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  Speaker 1: and he realized that they were communicating telepathically. They immediately
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  Speaker 1: grabbed him by his arms and dragged him to the craft,
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  Speaker 1: which was now silent, and pulled him in through the doorway.
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  Speaker 1: He very quickly found himself in a room which looked
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  Speaker 1: to him quote like a complicated laboratory. Now still speaking
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  Speaker 1: telepathically in Portuguese, the beings began to question him at
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  Speaker 1: length and in great detail, about every aspect of his life,
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  Speaker 1: about human habits, about cultures and customs, about the physiological
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  Speaker 1: functions of his body, about how humans reproduce, and more.
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  Speaker 1: They then had him undressed and he allowed them to
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  Speaker 1: conduct a detailed physical examination of his body. Two of
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  Speaker 1: the beings worked on him while the other two seemed
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  Speaker 1: to be making notes on what looked to Pedro like
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  Speaker 1: a sheet of aluminium as he recording the results of
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  Speaker 1: his exam. Now, this examination, at one point included the
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  Speaker 1: placement of what looked to Pedro like a strange, glowing,
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  Speaker 1: fine wire, which they inserted into his mouth, and this
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  Speaker 1: caused his entire body to turn completely transparent, like an
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  Speaker 1: X ray. Was shortly later that lights began to flash
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  Speaker 1: silently across the walls of the craft, and it seemed
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  Speaker 1: to Pedro that this was an order of some kind
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  Speaker 1: coming from somewhere, because immediately the examination ended, the eties
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  Speaker 1: quickly dressed Pedro and took him outside through the doorway,
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  Speaker 1: telling him that after their departure, the whole experience would
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  Speaker 1: remain in his mind quote like a dream. Still terrified
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  Speaker 1: and dumbfounded, Pedro stood on the road as the beings
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  Speaker 1: returned into the craft. The door closed and the craft
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  Speaker 1: took off and flew off so quickly it left a
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  Speaker 1: bright trail of light behind it. There you go, ye,
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  Speaker 1: in many ways your typical onboard UFOE encounter. The one
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  Speaker 1: single thing that most people report when taken on board
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  Speaker 1: a craft is being physically examined, and that's certainly true
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  Speaker 1: in his case. But seeing his body turn completely transparent, ooh,
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  Speaker 1: that is strange. A really interesting case all around. But
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  Speaker 1: let's move to this next one, which is probably my
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  Speaker 1: favorite in this compilation. This one is not that well known,
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  Speaker 1: which is surprising considering how well verified it is. I
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  Speaker 1: call this the Alien wand the onboard UFOE encounter of
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  Speaker 1: Laslo Bacco. This took place primarily in mid August of
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  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy four near Debrason, Hungary. It's actually a series
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  Speaker 1: of events, but the onboard encounter took place at that point.
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  Speaker 1: But what's so interesting about this encounter is that this
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  Speaker 1: gentleman was given an et artifact what appears to be
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  Speaker 1: a wand that we so often hear about in so
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  Speaker 1: many cases. With ETI's holding this little rod like device,
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  Speaker 1: little wand which ends up paralyzing a person or levitating
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  Speaker 1: them or doing all kinds of things healing, and he
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  Speaker 1: has this actual artifact, so that makes this case profoundly important.
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  Speaker 1: This fascinating, important and profound case was researched by the
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  Speaker 1: Hungarian UFO Research Network HUFAN, primarily by Gabor Tarkali and
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  Speaker 1: Loaslow Kiss. The primary witness is a man by the
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  Speaker 1: name of Laslo Bako. He was born in nineteen forty
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  Speaker 1: eight in the small village of Tisasgae, Hungary. It was
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  Speaker 1: a sunny morning and early summer of nineteen fifty three
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  Speaker 1: when five year old Loslow was in the fields with
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  Speaker 1: his grandparents. They were cutting sugar beets while he played
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  Speaker 1: along the nearby railroad tracks. Suddenly, he felt an odd
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  Speaker 1: sensation and looking around, saw a strange little quote person
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  Speaker 1: who was walking towards him. This person was humanoid in form,
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  Speaker 1: but Pearlslow, had an oversized head and was the same
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  Speaker 1: height as five year old Loslow. His entire body was
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  Speaker 1: very smooth, gray in color, and he appeared to have
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  Speaker 1: no clothes on, or perhaps was wearing a skin tight jumpsuit.
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  Speaker 1: At any rate, the figure approached slowly and stopped about
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  Speaker 1: three feet away from Loslow. This little man then smiled
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  Speaker 1: at him. Loslow felt a warm, friendly feeling coming from
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  Speaker 1: this being and pearlslow. This little man began to communicate
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  Speaker 1: with him mentally telepathically for about one minute, and then
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  Speaker 1: just walked off to the right about fifteen feet away
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  Speaker 1: and promptly disappeared. This puzzled and upset Loslow, who knew
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  Speaker 1: very good and well that people normally don't just disappear.
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  Speaker 1: He searched for the little man, but he was gone.
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  Speaker 1: That was the beginning of his experiences, but it certainly
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  Speaker 1: wasn't the end, because twenty one years later, Laslow, now
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  Speaker 1: twenty six, was lying in bed on a terrace of
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  Speaker 1: a small cottage on the outskirts of Debrason, Hungary. Was
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  Speaker 1: eleven p m. One evening in mid August of nineteen
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  Speaker 1: seventy four. He was listening to the radio and fell asleep.
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  Speaker 1: But just moments after he fell asleep, he woke up
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  Speaker 1: to find that he was no longer on his terrace.
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  Speaker 1: He was someplace else, inside a strange, bright room. He
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  Speaker 1: was sitting in a type of armchair, he said, and
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  Speaker 1: in front of him was a desk with what looked
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  Speaker 1: like white, gray and black stripes. To his right there
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  Speaker 1: was a humanoid of some kind. He didn't get a
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  Speaker 1: good look at this person, but he saw that this
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  Speaker 1: figure was holding a fourteen and a half inch long
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  Speaker 1: metallic rod or wand, and was moving it along the
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  Speaker 1: desk as if to display it to Loslow, placing its
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  Speaker 1: fingers along small bumps that were situated along the side
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  Speaker 1: of this rod. And he communicated to Loslow, saying all
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  Speaker 1: kinds of things. Unfortunately, Loslow could only remember little bits
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  Speaker 1: and pieces of this. He remembered that the man told him, quote,
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  Speaker 1: we have left the earth, and something about distance. That's
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  Speaker 1: all he could remember. But Loslow's next memory was waking
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  Speaker 1: up in bed in a sitting position with his feet
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  Speaker 1: on the floor. He certainly hadn't been in that position
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  Speaker 1: when he went to bed. He was upset by the encounter,
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  Speaker 1: but at the same time felt quote full of very
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  Speaker 1: wonderful feelings. And this is when he noticed a paper
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  Speaker 1: box near his bed which was all lit up with
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  Speaker 1: a strange green light, and looking inside he found this
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  Speaker 1: weird metallic rod that he had seen in this strange
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  Speaker 1: room being held by this being, and it was now
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  Speaker 1: emitting green light from one end. Was clear to him
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  Speaker 1: that this strange being on board the presuming UFO had
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  Speaker 1: given him this quote present, so he brought it inside
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  Speaker 1: stored it in his apartment. But following this incident, Loslow
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  Speaker 1: did become quite ill. He recovered and he realized that
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  Speaker 1: this alien rod, whatever it was, this artifact, had to
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  Speaker 1: be of incalculable worth, so he hid it. He wrapped
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  Speaker 1: it in a cloth, put it into an iron hype,
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  Speaker 1: closed both ends, and buried it in his garden, where
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  Speaker 1: it would remain for the next several years. Now you
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  Speaker 1: can see this object here. It is a silvery white
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  Speaker 1: metallic color fortune and a half inches long, about one
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  Speaker 1: inch in diameter. The ends are rounded. It has a
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  Speaker 1: rough surface with nine raised kind of gold brown hemispherical
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  Speaker 1: knots or bulges along the side. Also in isosceles triangle
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  Speaker 1: shape with an oval indentation or hole at one end,
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  Speaker 1: which is apparently made of a different material, and continually
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  Speaker 1: emitted flashes of colored lights, including red, blue, green, and violet.
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  Speaker 1: There's another sort of weird protrusion on the other end
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  Speaker 1: of this wand or rod. The end with the triangle
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  Speaker 1: and in line with the nodules has a small circle
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  Speaker 1: which emits a green light. This is at the very end.
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  Speaker 1: So meanwhile, events were still in progress. In May of
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  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six, Loslow was working as a truck driver.
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  Speaker 1: He was one of the drivers of a convoy of
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  Speaker 1: Zil Trucks, a cargo truck, and was driving along Highway
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  Speaker 1: four near Debrason transporting slag sand. Loaslow was the last
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  Speaker 1: in line on the highway of this convoy. It was
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  Speaker 1: just after two am when suddenly he felt his truck
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  Speaker 1: begin swerving of its own accord. He wasn't doing it.
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  Speaker 1: It moved first to the left and then to the
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  Speaker 1: right for a duration of about twelve to twenty seconds,
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  Speaker 1: when suddenly, for no reason that he could fathom, his
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  Speaker 1: truck rose up into the air and then dropped down
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  Speaker 1: on its side on the highway. As the truck hit
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  Speaker 1: the road, the slag sand he was carrying spread out
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  Speaker 1: in this shape of a symmetrical pyramid, which was quite
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  Speaker 1: odd for slagsand which should have been spewed everywhere. Now
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  Speaker 1: the truck was not damaged, but Laslo, of course was
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  Speaker 1: unable to open the driver's side door, which was against
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  Speaker 1: the ground, so he hopped out through the other window,
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  Speaker 1: and it turned out that the drivers in front of
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  Speaker 1: him actually saw his truck rise up in the air
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  Speaker 1: through their mirrors. Police were called, tow trucks were called.
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  Speaker 1: The truck was towed back to the company office. Nobody
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  Speaker 1: saw any UFO or anything like this, but neither did
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  Speaker 1: anybody have any explanation as to how the truck had
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  Speaker 1: risen into the air. There was a police report on
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  Speaker 1: this case, but it has apparently remained seal. It was
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  Speaker 1: about fifteen years after this event that Loslow decided to
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  Speaker 1: take action with this et artifact, this alleged et artifact.
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  Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety one, he dug up the rod in
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  Speaker 1: his backyard and decided to contact the Hungarian UFO network.
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  Speaker 1: They wanted him to hand over the rod, but Loslow
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  Speaker 1: was understandably reluctant to part with it. What he ended
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  Speaker 1: up doing, and this is so unfortunate, He cut it
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  Speaker 1: up into three equal portions and sent the middle portion,
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  Speaker 1: which had no real markings except for these little bumps
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  Speaker 1: along one edge, to them. This was the simplest portion
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  Speaker 1: of this et artifact. But later in nineteen ninety four
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  Speaker 1: he did present the entire object, still in three pieces,
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  Speaker 1: at the International UFO Congress in nineteen ninety four in Hungary.
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  Speaker 1: After much persuasion, he did permit these pieces to be
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  Speaker 1: subjected to three separate scientific laboratory analyzes. Now, the first
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  Speaker 1: analysis was done secretly in Deborson, Hungary, and it showed
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  Speaker 1: something interesting. It showed that this object, the central section
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  Speaker 1: was made up of one hundred percent ultra pure magnesium,
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  Speaker 1: of a purity that really stunned the scientists doing the analysis,
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  Speaker 1: as normally the highest possible rate of purity not naturally
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  Speaker 1: achieved or through a laboratory is about ninety nine point
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  Speaker 1: five percent. No, this was closer to one hundred. Two
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  Speaker 1: additional analyzes and separate labs also produced the same results.
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  Speaker 1: These two other separate analyzes were done in nineteen ninety five,
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  Speaker 1: one in France and one in Slovakia, and yeah got
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  Speaker 1: the same Guarden results. As researcher Gabor Tarcali says, on
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  Speaker 1: the basis of the facts detailed above, we consider Laslobacco
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  Speaker 1: to be the owner of an object whose origin is
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  Speaker 1: probably extraterrestrial. Our researchers did note some other strange effects
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  Speaker 1: and properties of this rod. When a light was shown
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  Speaker 1: on the end with this green luminescence, it would increase
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  Speaker 1: in brilliance. The rod was of course X rayed, which
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  Speaker 1: showed that the hole in the triangle section was emitting
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  Speaker 1: colored lights and showed the presence of what appeared to
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  Speaker 1: be an eight to nine millimeter long, four to five
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  Speaker 1: millimeter wide rod pointing towards the center of this oval
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  Speaker 1: eye within the triangle, and unlike the other sections, X
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  Speaker 1: rays could not fully penetrate this particular section. Our researchers
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  Speaker 1: suspected that this rod did have a function, which became
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  Speaker 1: disabled the Loslow cut it into three pieces. Researchers did
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  Speaker 1: determine that these fluorescent colors coming from the eye section
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  Speaker 1: were not normal light, but were probably more accurately described
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  Speaker 1: or produced as coming from subatomic radiation or particle radiation
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  Speaker 1: of some kind, creating more of a holographic type effect.
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  Speaker 1: They speculated that these nodules along side of this rod
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  Speaker 1: may have been the controls, and that the device could
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  Speaker 1: have had a number of purposes, such as healing or
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  Speaker 1: creating weightlessness, emitting a paralyzing beam, the other effects so
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  Speaker 1: often described by contactees. But of course this was pure speculation,
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  Speaker 1: and from here the story ends with only rumors. Reportedly,
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  Speaker 1: sections were sent to Japan and were never returned, nor
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  Speaker 1: was the analysis. Others say that Laslow was first open
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  Speaker 1: to more research, but then became somewhat paranoid and shunned
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  Speaker 1: all inquiries and cut off all contact with everyone. Some
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  Speaker 1: say the pieces of this object were stolen. Whatever the case,
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  Speaker 1: recent efforts by researchers to locate Laslow or the rod
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  Speaker 1: have proven fruitless. It's such a shame that that case
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  Speaker 1: just kind of disappeared off the radar. Nobody really knows
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  Speaker 1: what happened to Laslow, but it's absolutely an important addition
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  Speaker 1: to the whole catalog of onboard UFO encounters, so unusual.
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  Speaker 1: It's not the only case involving an ET artifact, but
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  Speaker 1: it's certainly one of the best verified out there. When
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  Speaker 1: a shameey chopped this thing up into three pieces, because
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  Speaker 1: that had so much potential to really change the way
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  Speaker 1: everyone feels about this subject, and let's face it, they
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  Speaker 1: still weren't able to even explain what this artifact was.
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  Speaker 1: So again, a very very important case. I think. Now
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  Speaker 1: let's move to the next one, which I call intimate
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  Speaker 1: relations with an ET, the onboard UFO encounter of Liberato
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  Speaker 1: Annabel Quintero. This took place in nineteen seventy six in Albanco, Colombia.
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  Speaker 1: Of all the cases in this compilation, this one is
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  Speaker 1: probably the best known. It is one of a number
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  Speaker 1: of cases in which the witness reports having intimate relations
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  Speaker 1: with ets, So that is a very interesting aspect to
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  Speaker 1: this case, because we know ets are very interested in
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  Speaker 1: human reproduction. There's the whole hybrid baby phenomena, and this
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  Speaker 1: case certainly speaks towards that. But it's pretty well verified too,
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  Speaker 1: with some witnesses outside witnesses who saw the craft as
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  Speaker 1: well as landing traces, and an all around really interesting
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  Speaker 1: and unusual case. This case was originally published in the
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  Speaker 1: Colombian newspaper Vea and quickly spread to other newspapers, various
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  Speaker 1: UFO publications and books. It became quite well publicized. The
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  Speaker 1: sole witness is a rancher by the name of Liberato
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  Speaker 1: Annabelle Quintero. It was just after midnight one evening in
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  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six when Liberato was awakened by a thunderstorm,
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  Speaker 1: and upon awakening, he felt an unusual premonition, as he says,
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  Speaker 1: as though something odd was going to happen to me.
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  Speaker 1: He felt nervous, he was sweating and felt strangely compelled
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  Speaker 1: to walk out of the house, almost as if he
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  Speaker 1: was quote controlled by some inexplicable external force. Now, his wife, Brunilda,
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  Speaker 1: also noticed his strange behavior, said he was snoring, which
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  Speaker 1: he never does. He went to bed much earlier than
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  Speaker 1: he normally would, so she noticed something strange also was
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  Speaker 1: going on, but did not follow him out of the house.
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  Speaker 1: Moments later, after leaving the house and going outside, a
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  Speaker 1: brilliant light appeared overhead, frightening him enough that he threw
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  Speaker 1: himself down to the ground to protect himself. This light
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  Speaker 1: quickly approached. Liberrato tried to get up and run away,
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  Speaker 1: but could only manage to crawl into a bush and
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  Speaker 1: try to hide. And, as he says, everything seemed strange.
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  Speaker 1: At first I thought I must be dreaming, But soon
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  Speaker 1: I realized that none of it was a hallucination, but
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: all real enough. A big luminous craft shaped like a
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: hen's egg was slowly descending from the sky, vividly lighting
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: up the whole area all around. Now, although it was
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: quite a cool evening, he now felt quote in absolute
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: unbearable heat. He said that this craft landed in silence
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: a short distance away and was blazing with a blinding light,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: too bright to even look at at first, But then
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: he heard him at tell scraping noise, and looking at
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: this object, saw that an opening had appeared in the
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: craft and a ladder type device was extending to the ground.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: As Liberato says, I was by now more scared than ever.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I wanted to run for it, that was impossible. I
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: was simply nailed to the spot. However much I wanted
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: to run, I simply couldn't do it. At one point
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: I felt I was about to swoon. Then I felt
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: a new access of strength and just sat there where
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: I was. But I nearly let out a yell when
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I saw a number of people coming down out of
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: the machine. Now he could see that each of these
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: figures was holding a kind of flashlight. They were all
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: about four feet tall, he said, pale skinned, with flatish faces,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: high cheekbones. They had round, protruding eyes tipped with thick eyebrows.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: There were both men and women. The woman had long hair.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: They came out after the men. All the figures looked
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: around the environment with apparent great interest. One of the
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: men then walked over to Liberato and began to pull
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: him up very quickly. The others came and surrounded him,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: at which point he started fighting them, and, as Liberato says,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: I knocked at least four or five of them down,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: but they were too many for me and my strength
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: was soon exhausted. So these little figures grabbed a hold
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: of Liberato and began to pull him towards the craft.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: He lost consciousness and found himself inside the craft in
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: a well lit room. This is interesting because he has
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: no memory of actually entering the craft. This is something
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: researchers called doorway amnesia and is quite commonly reported. Inside
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: the craft, he immediately noticed a strange mark on his arm.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: He said his body was cramping with pain. Three of
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: the women were massaging his back, and he was amazed
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: to see that they had no clothes on, and neither
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: did he. Now was at this point that these women
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: became very seductive, and before he knew it, Liberato found
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: himself having intimate relations with them. He somewhat initiated this,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: but they were very aggressive about it. He didn't notice
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: a few strange things about their bodies. They appeared to
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: have no navel, no belly button, Their bodies were hairer
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: than normal, and as he had relations with them. He
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: says that they would make kind of barking noises like
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: a dog. This went on for a pretty long time,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: and his attempts to stop this were thwarted, as he says,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: they were quote insatiable and wanted to continue. Eventually, after
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: what he estimated was about three hours of intimacy, they stopped.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Liberato found himself utterly exhausted. At this point, the beings
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: gave him a drink, which, as he says, quote restored
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: me physically as though nothing had happened. This really astonished him,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: and the next thing he knew, he lost consciousness. As
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Liberato says, I awoke again finally to find myself lying
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: on the grass. Dawn was just breaking. I managed to
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: get to my feet and make a dash for home
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: to tell my wife about what happened. Soon everyone on
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: the ranch gathered around to hear Liberato's account, and afterwards
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: they rushed to the spot where he said it occurred.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: There they found marks on the ground where the craft
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: had rested. Liberato says that following this experience, for quite
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: a long time afterwards, he suffered from terrible headaches. Now
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Liberato's wife again she had noticed Liberato's strange behavior prior
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: to this encounter, but it turns out that she had
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: seen what is apparently the same UFO hanging around their
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: ranch in the days before. As she says, and I quote,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: I never used to put faith in all that talk
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: about men and women from other planets, but now I've
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: got to believe it in view of what has happened
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: to my husband. And there's another thing too, I myself
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: have seen a strange machine, just like my husband described it,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: flying about around here these last few days. Now. Liberato's
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: employer and owner of the farm, a lawyer by the
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: name of Miguel Antonio Pina Vega, says, and I quote
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Liberato Annabelle Quintero is a man whom I consider to
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: be totally trustworthy. He is a serious, hardworking fellow who
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: drinks very little. He has no vices like narcotics or
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: that sort of thing. He doesn't even smoke cigarettes. One
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: of the best men I've ever had. I was able
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: to see that Liberato was clearly telling the truth. I
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: think you'll agree. That's an amazing case and sounds very
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: much like the very first reported abduction of Antonio villez
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Boas the details are extraordinarily similar all the way from
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: how the ets are described to their behavior, to the
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: series of events that occurred. That alone, I think provides
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: a level of corroboration here. So I don't know. These
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: kinds of events again, are very controversial, but given that
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: there are so many reports of this, it's hard to
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: just deny or ignore or explain away as hoaxes, hallucinations,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: misperceptions or mental illness, which is really where the debunkers go.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Those explanations just don't hold water anymore. There are far
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: too many cases, far too many witnesses, far too much evidence,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: far too many profound similarities between these cases. So clearly
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: something very profound is going on here, and it behooves
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: us all to take these reports seriously because so many
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: people are having these experiences. Let's move to the next one.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I call this one they mean us no harm, The
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: onboard UFO encounter of Wayne Farkwhire. This one occurred over
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: a series of years actually, nineteen seventy six, seventy eight
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: and eighty two, primarily in New South Wales, Australia. I
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: have to give kudos to Wayne for coming forward. He
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: was initially anonymous, but ultimately decided that he doesn't care,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: that it's time he just speaks publicly about this, that
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: it's important that people know these things do happen, and yeah,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: his case is profoundly interesting and really unusual. This case
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: comes from the first hand testimony of the witness himself,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: a gentleman by the name of Wayne Farquhar, again employed
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: as a security guard, but also a certified lay minister.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: He was initially anonymous, but decided to go public because,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: as he says, I don't care anymore. I only kept
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: my identity secret because of the work I do now.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: His experiences first began one evening in nineteen seventy eight.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: He woke up in his bed to find that the
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: room was all lit up, and coming through the open
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: bedroom doorway was what he describes as quote a thick
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: stream of dense smoke. But it was clear to him
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: that this wasn't smoke. There was no smell. It was
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: kind of reddish in color, and it seemed to move
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: as if alive. He immediately tried to wake up his wife,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: who was asleep in bed next to him, and although
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: she did wake briefly, she immediately went back to sleep.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: He could not wake her up. This concerned him because
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: the smoke was kind of roiling towards the cot where
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: his infant daughter was sleeping. At this point, a bright
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: beam of light came through the ceiling and hit the
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: cot where his daughter was sleeping, and Wayne found himself
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: losing consciousness. He woke up the next morning, but his
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: wife had no memory of anything strange and his daughter
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: was fine. Just a few months later, Wayne again woke
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: up in the middle of the night to find that
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: he was no longer in his bedroom. Instead, he lay
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: on a hard steel bed which appeared to be attached
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: to a wall in a strange room. He saw an
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: old man standing over him. This man looked human. He
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: was bald except for some curly gray hair along the
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: side of his head. He had a large nose, and
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: yeah looked like a normal person, but as Wayne says,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: I knew he was not. So this man proceeded to
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: place a small elongated steel bull with instruments inside of
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: it on top of Wayne's chest, and then put a
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: piece of cloth over Wayne's eyes and told him stay
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: put and don't move until I come back. This man
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: proceeded to walk out through a weird sliding door. Wayne
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: felt no fear at this point, but really couldn't move
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: his body very much. He finally did manage to lift
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: his head, and this caused the bull to crash to
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: the floor, making a very loud sound. And this old man,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: who Wayne perceived to be a doctor of some kind,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: came rushing in and chided him, said, I told you
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: not to move. At this point, Wayne passed out. He
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: woke up, and he was fine, and his experiences continued,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: because it was just a couple of years later when
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: he again found himself waking up lying on what appeared
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: to be this same steel bed, with that same old
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: man standing over him. But this time the man told
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: him to sit up, and Wayne got a good look
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: of where he was at. As Wayne says, I sat
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: up and noticed that the room was circular and immensely clean.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Nothing on the floor, nothing on the walls. The whole
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: room and everything in it was as though it was
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: stainless steel, resembled that type of metal. If I had
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: to guess the size of the room, I would say
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: it was around sixty meters diameter. Now at this point
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: he blacked out, and the next thing he knew, and
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: this is so strange, He found himself waking up in
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: a small, weird craft with three men flying through what
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: appeared to be outer space. As Wayne says in his
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: own words, it seemed to the three men that I
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: woke up unexpectedly and it startled them. The vehicle I
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: was in was very similar to a small car. I
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: was sitting up in the back seat on the left side,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: with a man on my right and two men in
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: the front, one driving and the other a passenger. As
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: soon as I opened my eyes, I looked at the
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: guy seated next to me. Then, with a raised voice,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: he said, he's awake. The driver said impossible. The two
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: in the front both turned their heads to look at me,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: and with surprised looks, one said, he is supposed to
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: be asleep. The front passenger said, you're awake and you
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: should be asleep. How do you feel I'm okay, I said, well,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: while you are awake, you might as well have a
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: look around. Definitely, I was in outer space and flying
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: at great speed. The vehicle was just like a little car,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: and it moved incredibly and was silent. We spoke for
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know how long about what's taking place, why
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: I am here, and who they were. I remembered everything
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: they told me. Then I woke up in my bed
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: with all the information gone except for the memory of
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: being with them. So this experience was very positive for him.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: It provided confirmation of his prior experiences. It let him
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: know that we are not alone in this universe. But
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: still he kept most of its secret from everyone, telling
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: only his wife parts of what happened, but his experiences continued.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty two, at age twenty seven, employed his
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: security guard for war Maulde Security Wollongong in New South Wales.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: He was up at the top of Mount Kembla. This
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: is a lookout not far from the coal mine in
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: the area, when, as he says, I noticed something strange
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: in the sky. It looked to him like a bright star,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: but it was ascending upwards slowly, and then it remained
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: stationary in the sky for hours. He thought it could
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: be a star, but the other stars were moving and
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: this one stayed in place, so clearly not a star.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: And this was not the only time he saw this.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: This happened, he says, for several nights in a row. Finally,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: one night he flashed his flashlight at it, trying to
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: get its attention. There was no response, so he did
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: it again on the next night, and he didn't think
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: much of it, and was just sitting in the front
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: seat of his car drinking coffee when the next thing
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: he knew he was no longer in the front seat.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: He had apparently passed out, but he was now lying
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: in the back of his car. Was very obvious to
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: him that something had just happened. He had to struggle
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: to get up. And I'll just let Wayne describe in
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: his own words happened. As he says, I forced hard
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: in raising my head, turned it slightly, and saw a
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: large UFO with an open doorway and seeing clearly two
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: alien entities standing on the ground in front of the
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: open door. I was looking straight at them, and they
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: were both looking at me from roughly ten to twelve
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: meters away. I again forced myself to raise my arm
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: and I gave a little wave. I smiled at them,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: and I noticed one of the beings turned his head
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: towards the older one. Now remember clearly, I saw this
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: in crystal clarity. Never did I see him move his lips,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: but I saw the older one nod his head in disagreement,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: as if to say no. Their appearance was humanoid, but
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: nothing like us. They had two eyes, nose, mouth, but
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: nothing human like. Their color was totally gray. Their skin
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: was absolutely gray in color. Who they were and where
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: they come from? I have no idea, only that they
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: were not from Earth. The only thing I do know
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: is they are not from Earth. They meant me no harm,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: and I truly felt no fear with them. I guess
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: they saw my flashing light, so they came to investigate.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: But then again, with their technology, I am very sure
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: that they would have seen who it was from where
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: they were. After I waved to them, I remembered no more.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: So his experiences were beginning to add up. His last
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: strange experience that he can consciously recall, occurred in twenty ten.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: He had gone to bed early and woke up to
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: find his entire room filled with this blazing blue light
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: and not a normal light. Again, as Wayne says in
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: his own words, I turned on my back and just
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: lay there in complete amazement, trying to comprehend what was happening.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: I was immersed in absolute confusion. To say it mildly,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: as you can imagine, I was in total shock, and
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do. Because this, this has
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: never happened before ever. It was like something out of
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: a movie, and I was completely lost in it. After
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: my eyes began to adjust to this incredible brightness, a
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: beautiful blue light with great intensity. Every corner of the
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: room was filled with this beautiful light. Its intensity was
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: so strong I believe it would have even penetrated the
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: inside of the wardrobes. It was not only bright, but
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: it was powerful beyond words of description. There was nowhere
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: this light was not truly. It lasted a few long
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: minutes before it suddenly went out, leaving me once again
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: in complete darkness. So Wayne jumped up told his wife.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: They returned to the room and inspected it. They could
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: find nothing out of order. So after talking about it
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: for a little while, Wayne lay back down in bed
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: and asked mentally, who are you who caused this light?
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: And he got a response, and the response was amazing.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: He saw this figure of a being on his ceiling,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: As Wain says, his image was on my ceiling, and
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: I was blown away by it. Please do not think
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: I am making this up, because I am not. This
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: is the total truth, I swear before God. He was
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: dressed in shiny, black, tight fitting overalls which looked to
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: be plastic but was not plastic. He was very much
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: human in appearance, with pale skin and had long, straight
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: white hair. He said nothing but continued smiling and blinking, blinking,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: probably for my benefit to show that this was not
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: a picture but a real life image of him. Not
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: a word was said to help me understand why he
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: came and why the light. But he is what we
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: term alien on Nordic. So that was his last experience.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Though Wayne does report quite a few psychic experiences and
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: he believes this is one of the reasons he was
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: contacted by ets, and eventually he decided to go public.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: As Wayne says, I have had numerous encounters and experiences
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: from other beings. This is absolutely truthful, no exaggeration, but
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: as it occurred. He did at one point try to
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: go under hypnosis, but it was not successful, so he
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: just has the encounters that he remembers, and as he says,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I have so often kept things to myself out of
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: fear of what others may think. I am sharing these
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: stories because I believe it is near time that things
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: must come out and be discussed openly. I only want
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: to share what I've learned and experienced, and through this
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: bring a little better understanding of those we class as alien.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: I do know for sure they the aliens as we
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: call them, mean us no harm, but are here to
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: help us in becoming a much better people, a much
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: better humanity, an amazing series of experiences by any measure.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I like that case because he's a good witness, a
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: security guard, so many security guards have encounters, but also
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: a minister, very well respected, a family man, and I
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: think his case is important because he's very lucid about it. Never,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: when under hypnosis, tried but recalled his experiences, primarily fully consciously.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: This is true with every case in this compilation. So again,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: you can try to explain these cases away as false
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: memories produced by hypnosis, but it would not be accurate
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: because none of these people used hypnosis and had fully
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: conscious encounters. So there you go, try to explain that away.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Let's move to the next case. This one is also
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: super interesting. Didn't get a whole lot of attention here
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: in the United States, but certainly was fairly whitely publicized
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: when it occurred. I call this one invited the onboard
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: UFO encounter of Antonio Kant. This occurred on January eighteenth,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight, in Luciana. This is in Vicenza, Italy.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: And this is another extraordinary case involving a gentleman who
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: received an et artifact, and it's just a really interesting
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: encounter in some other ways considering what actually happened to
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: him when he was on board this craft. This case
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: comes from Italian researcher Paolo Furino and was published both
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: in UFO Universe the October November nineteen ninety one issue
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: and the Italian publication UFO Revista de informacion Eupologica number
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: thirty eight, and in the July August nineteen eighty nine
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: issue of the International UFO Reporter, and actually in many
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: other publications. Was eleven thirty pm on January eighteen, nineteen
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: seventy nine. As the primary witness, Antonio Kant, a forty
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: two year old man who worked as a woodcutter, was
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: driving his Renault automobile through the Luciana area of Vicenza, Italy, when,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: without warning and by no actions of his own, his
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: car came to a sudden stop. The lights went out
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  Speaker 1: and the car doors opened by themselves. Needless to say,
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  Speaker 1: this astonished him. But even more astonishing. Ahead of him
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  Speaker 1: on the road, he saw a large quote orange ball
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  Speaker 1: with a flattened base. Immediately, a door slid open on
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: the side of this sphere, and a humanoid about three
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  Speaker 1: feet tall, very slender, wearing a copper colored, scaly looking
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  Speaker 1: metallic uniform, leaped out immediately behind it. A second identical
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  Speaker 1: looking figure followed. The witness at this point got out
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  Speaker 1: of his car and stared in absolute amazement, leaning against
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: his car, as he says, quote in order not to
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  Speaker 1: faint from fright, and was at this point the beings
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  Speaker 1: began to approach him. He wanted to run away, but
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  Speaker 1: found that he was absolutely paralyzed by fear or otherwise,
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  Speaker 1: he is not sure now. When these little figures got closer,
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  Speaker 1: Antonio could see that they had long hands, looked like
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  Speaker 1: they ended with pointed nails where their ears would be.
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  Speaker 1: He saw what looked like twisted wires which appeared to
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  Speaker 1: be vibrating and humming, and he says, these beings began
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: to gesture at him, inviting him in a very friendly
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  Speaker 1: way to go on board the craft, and he was
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  Speaker 1: convinced by this that they meant no harm. And he
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: saw what he described as a quote friendly sparkle in
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: their eyes. So of his own volition, he walked up
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  Speaker 1: to the door of this craft and entered. The little
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: beings followed him inside, and Antonio now found himself inside
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: a very small room about six feet wide, and he
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: says it was filled with electronic looking gadgets that he
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: really couldn't describe. They were on all four sides at
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  Speaker 1: about waste level upwards. There was also what looked like
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: a computer like screen with quote, luminous balls on it
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: that were following a horizontal path. In front of him
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: was another glowing glass screen, behind which he saw additional figures.
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  Speaker 1: He really didn't have time to observe anything else because
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: at this point one of the two beings approached him
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  Speaker 1: and began to undress him, first taking off his jacket
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: and then starting to unbutton his shirt. This frightened Antonio.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: He began to resist them, trying to make them understand
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: using gestures that it was cold outside, he didn't want
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: to undress, that he wanted them to leave him alone. Now.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: It was at this point the other being gestured or
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: signaled in some way at the one attempting to undress Antonio.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Undressing Antonio touched the wall and this is so strange.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: A metallic suit, just like the ones the beings were wearing, appeared,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: and Antonio had the distinct impression that the beings wanted
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: him to put this suit on. This frightened him even more.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: In fact, it frightened him so badly his legs gave
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  Speaker 1: a way and he fell to the floor and began
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: imploring the beings to just let him go. At this point,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: one of the beings opened a kind of drawer and
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: lifted out a very small metallic box which seemed to
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  Speaker 1: have writing on it, or he was writing something on it,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: this was Antonio's impression, and then signaled the witness to
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: put it around his neck actually handed it to him.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: It was at that moment a door opened on the
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: side of the craft, and the witness, very relieved and
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: still holding this small box shaped object that the ets
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: had given him, crawled out of the UFO on his
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: hands and knees. He said his legs were shaking so
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: badly that he would unable to stand up. Once he
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: got out of the craft. He lay down on the ground,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: completely overcome. Immediately the environment around him was plunged into darkness.
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  Speaker 1: And he realized that this glowing spherical craft had disappeared.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: His car headlights immediately came back on. It took him
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: quite a few minutes to calm down, but then Antonio
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: went back to his car and drove home. Arriving home,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: Antonio's mother immediately noticed his frightened expression and asked him
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: what was wrong, But Antonio found that he was still
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: in such a state of shock that he was unable
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: to even talk about what had happened to him. He
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: did take this object given to him by the ets
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: and hid it in a little crack in the wall.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: The next morning, he met with a friend who found
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: him still distraught, and his friend encouraged him to explain
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: what happened, and this is when Antonio revealed his story.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Now living in this small village, news spread very very
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: quickly about his ordeal, and Antonio found himself the object
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: of ridicule and scorn, with some people calling him crazy
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: or a drunk, or a liar or mentally ill. Those
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: who knew him best, though, did testify for his honesty, sincerity,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: and mental stability. The police were called. They interviewed the witness.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: They became convinced he was telling the truth, and this
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: is where the case ends. What happened to the alleged
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: et artifact remains unknown. Apparently the witness, because of the
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: way he was treated, refused any further interviews or examinations.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: I really feel for Antonio. That was clearly a traumatic
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: experience for him, But even more traumatic was the reaction afterwards,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: all the ridicule and scorn that was heaped upon him.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: So unfair. So many people having these encounters. I think
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: we should treat witnesses with respect and take a serious
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: interest in their case and study it without bias, without preconceptions.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: I think if that had been done, this case would
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: have held a lot more potential to answer a lot
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: of these questions surrounding this subject, and we would have
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: found out what happened to this apparent et artifact, which,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: as you can see, we don't know what happened to it.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Such a shame because there was such potential in that case.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: This happens over and over again. This subject is still
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: not treated with the seriousness it deserves. It's one of
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: the reasons I do this research and put out these episodes.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: So let's move to another really extraordinary case. I call
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: this one the messages from the ETS the onboard UFO
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: encounter of Roger R. This involves a very young witness
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: ten years old, who had a fully unconscious encounter that
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: was incredibly complex, interactive with a whole lot of information,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: And while the witness is quite young, he was given
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: information that his father, who is also a contactee, was
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: able to corroborate, which really in effect proved the validity
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: of his case. And it was also professionally researched by
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: an experienced investigator, which raises the level of credibility. You
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: can make up your own minds about it. Pretty sure
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: you haven't heard of this case before. I know I hadn't,
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: so that alone makes it pretty darn interesting. But as
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: you'll see, yes, incredibly extensive. This one occurred on April
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: twenty nine, nineteen eighty nine, in Orlando, Florida, and wow
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: is it a strange one. This case was thoroughly researched
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: by a Florida based Muffan Field investigator, Jim Greenan, who
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: you can see here. He's also the state Section director
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  Speaker 1: at that time, and the primary witness is a ten
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  Speaker 1: year old boy by the name of Roger R. He
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: is anonymous at the time, he lived with his mother, stepfather,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: also an experiencer, and his younger brother. He is a
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: fan of Star Trek and on the night of April nineteenth,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine, at eleven pm, he had just finished
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: watching the show, it ended and he was sent to
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: bed and per Roger sometime in the middle of the night,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: a weird sound that sounded like voices woke him up.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Sitting up in bed, he could hardly believe his eyes.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: He saw four entities, he said. They were each about
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: five and a half feet tall. They had bald, kind
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: of heart shaped heads, giant dark eyes, no reheal nose,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: just two holes and a slit for a mouth, a
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: kind of goldish brown skin complexion. If they pulled him
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: out of bed and placed him on this weird floating
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: platform that was in his room, they clearly had brought
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: it in there. It was opaque, white, kind of glass like,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: and per Roger about two feet wide and six feet long.
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  Speaker 1: So after these beings placed him on this platform, they
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: began to move it towards the closed windows, and they
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: started to actually open the window, at which point Roger
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: told them that there was a security alarm and if
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: they opened the windows, this alarm would go off. The
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: beings assured him telepathically that it would not go off,
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: and they proceeded to open the windows, take off the screen,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: and guided Roger, still on the platform, out the window.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Of course, the alarm did not go off. Roger found
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: himself being carried along the side of the apartment and
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: out to a small field next to the apartment. He
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: could now see that there was a smallish craft sitting
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: in the field. He described it as looking like two
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: plates placed end to end, a door swung open on
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: the side. He said. It was flat and lined with
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: lights and kind of formed a ramp up into the interior.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: And at this point Roger's memory lapped briefly and he
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: doesn't remember going inside the craft again, another example of
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: what researchers called doorway amnesia. His next memory is finding
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: himself inside the craft in a small room which had
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: a black glass table with what looked like buttons on it.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: He said, on one side of the room there was
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: what looked like a control panel with a large screen
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: above it. One of the beings pressed a button on
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: the table which caused the floor of this craft to
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: light up. Then another one of the beings pressed a
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: button on the control panel along the wall, and this
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: really surprised Roger because the screen showed the outside of
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: the craft, and Roger saw that the craft was now
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: moving straight upwards. He was surprised because he could feel
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: no sensation whatsoever of any movement. And this is when
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: the beings began to speak telepathically to Roger, asking him
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: what he was. Said he was a human boy. They
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: asked his name and he told them. They told him
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: that they knew his parents. They took him to another room,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: showeding a moving image of his friend Nancy and what
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: looked to Roger like a hospital, and they said that
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: they couldn't show him the whole film because equipment was
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: causing some interference. He asked them where Nancy was, and
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: they told him that she was on another ship and
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: that this was her last lifetime and she would not
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: be reborn because she had already been born too many times.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: They said that people are reborn a thousand times and
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: that some of them, meaning the ets, also incarnate on Earth.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: They then gave him some predictions, told him his mother
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: was going to get a high paying job, actually showed
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: him the building. They showed him many things, a boy
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: he did not know, another young girl going into a ship.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: They told him that they were studying her. They took
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: him to another room. This point, Roger noticed a small
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: red orb following him. He said, another device floated over
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: to him and appeared to take a skin sample from
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: his finger. Roger at this time had a few sores
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: on his body. He is a ten year old, rambunctious kid.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: But he found that all his sores were healed. They
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: then had him push a button on a device. He
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: asked them why. They said that this was to take
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: a blood sample. They showed him another man sitting on
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: a table who was also apparently being examined. They then
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: took him to yet another room. He felt a kind
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: of weird vibration and a door opened, and he now
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: saw that this smaller craft had apparently been placed inside
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: a much larger craft, which he described as being four
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: times the size of his own apartment building. Said it
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: was mostly white inside. They removed his clothes. They gave
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: him a red suit to wear, which he said clung
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: to his skin and had weird hieroglyphic like symbols. Eyes
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: it said, a new reddish orb started floating over him,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: setting down occasional beams of light onto him, which the
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: ETS explained was scanning him. The ets then told him
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: that they are able to present any appearance they want
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: to people, but that the form that he was looking
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: at was their true form. They told him that they
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: are not only contacting him, but his three year old brother.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: They showed him a weird map. They said that they
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: contacted the man in Alaska, but had to leave him
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: alone when the man tried to shoot at them and
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: called him the devil, and they explained that they are
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: peaceful people. Now, Roger's father, again a contact. De had
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: recently bought books by Shirley McLane and the book Communion
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: by Whitley Strieber, and a few weeks before this experience
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: that Roger was now describing, Roger's father had found the
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: books moved and rearranged and hidden, and Roger's father thought
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: that Roger was responsible for this. But now the etes
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: told Roger that it was actually them who had purposefully
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: hidden the book by Shirley McLane as the contents were
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: not accurate. They told him that she had written this
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: for money. They then said that they had actually rearranged
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: the book communion, opening it specifically to page one hundred
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: and twelve and leaving it open on the bookshelf because
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: they wanted his father to read this page. They said
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: that they had to leave quickly because they didn't want
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: their father to see them. At that point, they now
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: showed him something else which was astonishing. They showed an
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: image of his father going into Roger's room and checking
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: on him sleeping in bed, and they told Roger that
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: this was happening now at the present moment, that Roger
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: was both on the ship and at home at the
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: same time that they had this ability. This is interesting
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: because so many contactees talk about having an hour's long
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: experience like Roger did and being returned only minutes later,
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: so that's apparently what's going on here. At one point,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: Roger said he was taken to a closet size room
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: where a red laser like light scanned over his body.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Some of these events aren't perhaps in the correct order,
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: because a lot happened. At one point, they asked him
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: what he would like to do with his life, and
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: he said he wanted to go skiing. They showed him
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: a very lifelike image of him skiing at age thirteen.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: He said it was so real he could actually feel
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: the cold from the snow. They showed him something else,
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: an incident at Daytona Beach which had occurred much earlier,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: where his father had almost gotten into a car accident,
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: and they said that they had actually swerved the vehicle
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: themselves to prevent this accident. And they said that the
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: plane that Rogers's father saw was actually their craft. Now
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Roger's father later verified these events as being one hundred
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: percent true. This is a very complicated experience. Many other
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: events happened. Roger described seeing other ets. At one point,
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: they took him to a room with alien looking animals
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: and what appeared to be glass cages. They also told
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: him this is interesting, that the history his teachers were
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: teaching him at school was not true, and that at
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: one time people actually lived on Mars, that another planet
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: in the Solar System had been destroyed in a terrible catastrophe,
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: and that it was now part of the asteroid belt.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: And they said that they were responsible for bringing people
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: to live on Earth. They also showed him images of
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: a room and what he perceived to be NASA because
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: he saw the words NASA, where aliens were being examined
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: and autopsied by scientists. This was the most upsetting segment
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: of his experience, said it was the worst part. They
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: also told Roger that his father was a contact team
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: was being taken and that this was the reason he
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: often woke up tired, and that at this point he
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: did not remember these events, but that in time he would. Finally,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: after a few more events, Roger was returned to the
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: smaller craft. It landed on the same spot in this
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: field or hovered just above it. Roger was placed on
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: the same weird platform which floated him, this time to
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: the front door of the apartment. They brought him inside
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: and put him back in bed. Now Roger woke up
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: the next morning with full memory of this. He also
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: noticed that there was a black government car parked outside. Now,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: per Roger's father, he noticed that following this experience, many
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: government helicopters were flying around the house. He also said
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: that two weeks before this incident, he saw a man
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: wearing a dark suit looking into his window. He rushed outside,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: saw the man actually jump the fence of the property,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: jump into a car which was waiting for him, and
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: drove off. So researcher Jim Greenan, of course, interviewed all
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: the witnesses, got character references for both rogers and his father,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: interviewed his mother, friends, co workers, and became absolutely convinced
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: of the veracity of this case. He writes, this case
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: is considered an unknown of great significance because the ten
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: year old boy apparently had no memory block while on
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: board two UFOs, and his father seems convinced he could
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: not have made it up. The father said they showed
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: him many things about the past that the boy could
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: not have known normally. A truly amazing case. And I
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: know skeptics will say, listen, he's just a young kid.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: He's a fan of Star Trek, watched Star Trek that
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: night before he had his experience. This must have been
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: a dream. Not so sure that holds water because of
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: the information this child received certainly matches up with many
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: other cases as well, beyond I think the ability of
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: a ten year old to make up. And most importantly,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: his father is a content as well and says that
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: some of the information given to this child is absolutely
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: true and could not have been known by him, so
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: that brings a whole new aspect to this that is
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: very very hard to explain away as simply a child's
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: imagination or a dream or sleep paralysis or anything like this.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: So there's a lot to learn, I think from this
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: particular case. Wish I could talk to this witness. It's
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: been some years since he's had this encounter. Would be
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: interesting to know if the prediction given to him by
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: the ETS came true. Don't know, but again another important
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: addition to this really massively growing database of people who
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: claim to have been taken on board et craft. All right,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: let's move to our last and final case in this bunch.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: This one is another one of my favorites. All of these,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: to me are so interesting, but this one is particularly profound.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: I call this one Cured of Depression, the onboard UFO
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: Encounter of Jade. This involves a young teenager who was
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  Speaker 1: suffering from severe depression prior to his experience, and as
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  Speaker 1: you'll see, this encounter really affected him, majorly transformed him
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  Speaker 1: and cured his depression. This one occurred on November twenty seven,
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  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety, in Plymouth, Minnesota. It was investigated very thoroughly,
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  Speaker 1: and I think you'll find this case of particular interest
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  Speaker 1: because he remembers this fully, consciously and in incredible detail.
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  Speaker 1: This very poignant case comes from muffan Field investigator Craig
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  Speaker 1: r Lang. You can see him here. It involves a
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  Speaker 1: man by the name of Jade. He is anonymous. He
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  Speaker 1: was six ten years old at the time of his encounter,
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  Speaker 1: later employed as a freelance graphic artist and draftsman. Immediately
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  Speaker 1: prior to his encounnor, he was suffering from some pretty
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  Speaker 1: severe depression, and in fact he had been hospitalized, released
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  Speaker 1: and given a prescription of prozac some weeks later. Around
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  Speaker 1: eight pm on November twenty seven, nineteen ninety, Jade had
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  Speaker 1: a huge fight with his parents. This caused him to
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  Speaker 1: become depressed. He left the house and walked over to
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  Speaker 1: a girlfriend's house into the house of another friend, but
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  Speaker 1: neither of them were home, so he was still depressed
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  Speaker 1: and was walking back to his home feeling quite upset.
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  Speaker 1: Who was heading west on forty fifth Street at the
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  Speaker 1: intersection of Larch, which you can see here. He was
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  Speaker 1: keeping his eyes on the ground when he felt a
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  Speaker 1: sudden sense of disorientation. Looking up, he was shocked to
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  Speaker 1: see that his surroundings did not look familiar. He quickly
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  Speaker 1: reoriented himself and he realized that he was now face
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  Speaker 1: eastbound going away from his house. Also, it was a
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  Speaker 1: very cold night. He now felt strangely warm, as if
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  Speaker 1: he had just stepped out of a warm room. But
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  Speaker 1: most significantly, he noticed a strange sense of positivity. His
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  Speaker 1: previous depression had vanished. He felt in a real good mood.
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  Speaker 1: He ran home. His parents were still angry with him,
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  Speaker 1: but weirdly, he didn't care, as he felt something very
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  Speaker 1: profound had happened to him that lifted his depression, but
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  Speaker 1: as of yet he had no memory of what. Following this,
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  Speaker 1: he did begin suffering from insomnia, and it was some
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  Speaker 1: months later he started having vivid flashbacks of seeing the
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  Speaker 1: silhouette of a dark circular object hovering over his head
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  Speaker 1: and shining down a very bright light. You can see
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  Speaker 1: the drawing of that he produced. And it was one
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  Speaker 1: day shortly later he was attending a youth group at
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  Speaker 1: his church when the coordinator asked everyone to discuss when
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  Speaker 1: they first quote felt God. Jade instantly thought of that
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  Speaker 1: night when he was severely depressed from the fight with
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  Speaker 1: his parents and this light shone down on him, lifting
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  Speaker 1: his depression, and he talked about that, and this seemed
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  Speaker 1: to open a doorway to his memories, really break down
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  Speaker 1: the walls of amnesia of what had happened, and he
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  Speaker 1: began having dreams about this event, which he realized was
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  Speaker 1: much more than dreams, and that this was much more
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  Speaker 1: than just a sighting. And over the next few years,
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  Speaker 1: dreams and flashbacks filled out fully what had happened on
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  Speaker 1: that momentous November night. So what here is what Jade
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  Speaker 1: says happened to him. Feeling depressed quite cold, he was
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  Speaker 1: walking slowly home, trying to avoid dragging his feet through
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  Speaker 1: the freshly fallen snow, when suddenly a circle of lights
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  Speaker 1: shone down on him at an angle. Looking up, he
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  Speaker 1: saw was coming from a dark oval object hovering a
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  Speaker 1: short distance away, aparently over nearby Schmidt Lake. He said
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  Speaker 1: it was no more than one hundred feet high, but
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  Speaker 1: it quickly moved straight over him, lowering to about treetop
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  Speaker 1: level and becoming blindingly bright. In fact, it was so
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  Speaker 1: bright he had trouble looking at it. He covered his
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  Speaker 1: eyes and looked down, but peered back up he could
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  Speaker 1: see it was about twenty to thirty feet long, maybe
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  Speaker 1: six feet wide, and he could see that the light
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  Speaker 1: was actually coming from the center of this object. Now
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  Speaker 1: the next thing he recalls is he's inside this object.
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  Speaker 1: He's fully alert but unable to move, and he felt
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  Speaker 1: someone pulling him backwards into a dark room, very large,
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  Speaker 1: black or dark blue in color, with rounded walls and
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  Speaker 1: a domed ceiling. He felt as if someone was dragging
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  Speaker 1: him from behind by his chest. He was pulled about
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  Speaker 1: four feet onto a table or a platform in the
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  Speaker 1: center of the room, which rose from the floor and
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  Speaker 1: with cold and hard with a sort of smooth, slippery
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  Speaker 1: texture that he found difficult to describe. Kind of like plastic,
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  Speaker 1: he said, covered with chrome, smooth and rounded and squarish
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  Speaker 1: in shape quote, almost like a large pan. He said.
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  Speaker 1: It seemed to contour to his body, rising up for
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  Speaker 1: the back and legs, as if to prevent sliding. He said.
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  Speaker 1: A cone of lights shone down on him from above, narrowing.
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  Speaker 1: As it came down towards his body, he saw a
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  Speaker 1: weird quote mobile like object within the light, sort of
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  Speaker 1: hanging down. Said. It was solid black and structured with
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  Speaker 1: several different branching posts which ended in black spheres, but
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  Speaker 1: yeah reminded him of kind of a child's mobile. Jade
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  Speaker 1: now found himself lying on his right side facing a
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  Speaker 1: strange being. He could see it only from the chest upwards,
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  Speaker 1: and the first thing he noticed was the being's eyes,
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  Speaker 1: which he said were shaped mostly like a normal person's
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  Speaker 1: eyes eyes, but slightly Asian looking and much larger and
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  Speaker 1: very penetrating. He said that there were whites in the eyes,
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  Speaker 1: but the pupils were much larger than a normal person's,
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  Speaker 1: and he also saw or sensed another identical looking creature
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  Speaker 1: on the other side of the table. He said that
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  Speaker 1: they had large bald heads that flared out backwards from
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  Speaker 1: the temples, prominent cheekbones, and a very small chin, and
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  Speaker 1: that they had a slightly yellowish cast to their complexion,
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  Speaker 1: so their faces looked strangely hollow, and he wondered briefly
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  Speaker 1: if it could have been a mask. He didn't notice
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  Speaker 1: that their hands had fewer fingers than the normal person's.
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  Speaker 1: He said both were wearing gray jumpsuits, one with a
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  Speaker 1: v neck. Said the texture of these jumpsuits looked kind
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  Speaker 1: of like thinly brushed leather with a metallic appearance. Looking
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  Speaker 1: around the room, he noticed a cylindrical post to his
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  Speaker 1: right which contained a kind of mechanical arm, rectangular with
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  Speaker 1: a beveled edge two to three three feet long six
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  Speaker 1: inches wide, and it was extending towards him. On the
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  Speaker 1: underside of it. It had two dull prongs of unequal
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  Speaker 1: lengths quite short. He also noticed what seemed to be
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  Speaker 1: like pillars around the outer edge of the room. He
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  Speaker 1: thinks there may have been a third entity standing there,
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  Speaker 1: holding a cylindrical type object into a hole in one
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  Speaker 1: of the pillars. He also saw a porthole or window
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  Speaker 1: he could see outside, and he didn't also see what
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  Speaker 1: appeared to be a control panel of some sort. It
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  Speaker 1: had no buttons or lights, but jutted out like a table,
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  Speaker 1: so he assumed this was a panel of some kind.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't notice a few open doorways or openings between
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  Speaker 1: the pillars leading to apparently other rooms, and on the
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  Speaker 1: floor he saw what look like a dark hole or
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  Speaker 1: an opening of some kind. So at this point the
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  Speaker 1: beings were holding him still with their hands. One grabbed
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  Speaker 1: the bill of his baseball cap, which he wore backwards off.
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  Speaker 1: The other one behind Jade braced his head and neck,
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  Speaker 1: while the one in front of him had his hand
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  Speaker 1: on Jade's shoulder. They then proceeded to speak to him telepathically.
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  Speaker 1: The one facing him looked deep into his eyes and
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  Speaker 1: mentally asked him, who are you and why are you
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  Speaker 1: so depressed now. Although Jade did not recognize this being,
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  Speaker 1: he says he felt a very strong sense of relationship
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  Speaker 1: with him, and he felt that they were very much
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  Speaker 1: sympathetic to his feelings of depression. The beings then seemed
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  Speaker 1: to turn to each other, and he thought were communicating
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  Speaker 1: with each other. He says that there might be a
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  Speaker 1: disagreement or some sort of discussion concerning him, and that's
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  Speaker 1: really all he can remember. The next thing he recalls
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  Speaker 1: is being back on the street, finding himself facing the
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  Speaker 1: wrong direction, feeling warm despite the cold outside, and his
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  Speaker 1: depression completely gone. When he started having dreams and flashbacks
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  Speaker 1: of being and onboard a craft and being examined by
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  Speaker 1: the big eyed short figures and having insomnia, he decided
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  Speaker 1: to contact Muffon. He did admit to a prior interest
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  Speaker 1: in UFOs and had red material on the subject, and
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  Speaker 1: while the investigator, Craig r Lang, was convinced of the
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  Speaker 1: authenticity of his case, he did raise the possibility that
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  Speaker 1: Jade's prior reading on this subject may have contaminated his
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  Speaker 1: recall of what happened to some extent. There was one
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  Speaker 1: detail that was difficult to reconcile because Jade had recall
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  Speaker 1: of being at another location near Schmidt Lake, just west
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  Speaker 1: of I four ninety four. At this location, which does exist,
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  Speaker 1: there is a large metallic spherical building which is used
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  Speaker 1: as a test lab by a local aerospace engineering company.
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  Speaker 1: It's a very technological location, which is interesting because ets
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  Speaker 1: do show an interest in human technology. But whether this
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  Speaker 1: somehow fits in with his November twenty seven experience or
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  Speaker 1: is perhaps another separate encounter remains unclear now. As of
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  Speaker 1: the time of the investigation into this case, which was
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety seven. Jade reports that his health is
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  Speaker 1: fine and that since his encounter, he no longer suffers
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  Speaker 1: from depression and feels that this encounter cured him of
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  Speaker 1: his depression. How amazing is that. I always love it
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  Speaker 1: when an artist is having experiences, because they are able
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  Speaker 1: to make drawings that really accurately describe what they experience.
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  Speaker 1: It's often been said that a picture is worth a
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  Speaker 1: thousand words. I think that's especially true when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to UFOH encounters because it's so hard for people to
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  Speaker 1: use words to describe what they've experienced when having a
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  Speaker 1: ufone encounter. So this has been an important case in
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  Speaker 1: that regard alone, But also I think is a real
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  Speaker 1: accurate representation of what it's like to go on board
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  Speaker 1: et craft. While it can be quite scary, ultimately he
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  Speaker 1: feels this was a fully benevolent and positive experience. And
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  Speaker 1: I think these seven cases that I presented today really
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  Speaker 1: give an accurate cross section a representation of what it's
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  Speaker 1: like to be taken on board a UFO. So this,
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  Speaker 1: I think is a phenomenon that word an experience that
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  Speaker 1: should be taken much more seriously. It's not, as Jalen
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  Speaker 1: Heinek said, it's really not part of the scientific method
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  Speaker 1: to ridicule people and treat them so heinously, And I
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  Speaker 1: think that's so true. These are important experiences that have
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  Speaker 1: a lot to teach us. A lot of people are
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  Speaker 1: having these experiences, and again, as you can see, they're
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  Speaker 1: happening all over the world. It's been going on for
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  Speaker 1: a very long time, and to me, they're just incredibly fascinating.
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  Speaker 1: I said at the beginning of this episode, but I
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  Speaker 1: think it bears repeating these cases. While they may be controversial,
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  Speaker 1: still represent the cutting edge of UFO research. Pretty Much
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  Speaker 1: everything we know about extraterrestrials, who they are, where they
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  Speaker 1: come from, and why they're here comes from one single source,
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  Speaker 1: and that is the people who've had these experiences. It's
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  Speaker 1: not from government scientists who have never had an experience
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  Speaker 1: or really haven't even done research. You know, these pundits
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  Speaker 1: on TV talking heads who are speculating wildly about what's
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  Speaker 1: going on here, certainly not coming from our intelligence agencies
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  Speaker 1: who have a very long and heinous history of lying
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  Speaker 1: about this subject. It's coming from the contact ees, so
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  Speaker 1: we should take them seriously. I think there are a
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  Speaker 1: lot of them. Most remain completely silent and private about
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  Speaker 1: their experiences because of this really hostile climate of fear
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  Speaker 1: and ridicule and skepticism. Thankfully that's changing. This subject is
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  Speaker 1: going mainstream. People are taking this subject seriously, and I
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  Speaker 1: think we're at a turning point where this could actually
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  Speaker 1: result in disclosure at some point. I don't know kin
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  Speaker 1: of two minds about that. I'm not sure our governments
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  Speaker 1: will ever fully disclose, certainly not voluntarily. But on the
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  Speaker 1: other hand, I think it's inevitable that the truth will
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  Speaker 1: come out and maybe one day we'll have open official contact.
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  Speaker 1: Who knows. Either way, the future should be pretty interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks very much you guys for tuning in. Truly appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: It's because of you I do these episodes. So thank you,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, and until next time, keep asking
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  Speaker 1: those hard questions, keep searching for the truth, and most
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  Speaker 1: important to all, keep having fun. I will see you
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  Speaker 1: next Friday. Bye for now.