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Monkeys on My Back: Debbie Kasper's hilarious story of surviving stand-up comedy, alcoholism, and working for Rosanne. · Phil and Ted's Sexy Boomer Show

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  Boomer
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  Ted
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  Bonnitt.
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  Phil
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  Proctor
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  and
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  house
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  by
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  the
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  sea
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  in
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  Lewis,
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  Delaware.
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  Today
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  I
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  was
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  trying
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  to
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  find
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  a
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  corner
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  in
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  the
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  house
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  where
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  I
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  could
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  make
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  this
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  call
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  and
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  there
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  is
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  no
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  corner.
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  So
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  I'm
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  actually
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  calling
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  from
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  the
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  bedroom.
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  I
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  hope
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  that's
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  all
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  right.
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  I
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  don't
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  know
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  if
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  the
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  FCC
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  is
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  going
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  to
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  be
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  unnerved
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  by
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  that.
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  Well,
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  you're
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  not
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  on
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  camera,
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  that's
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  a
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  plus.
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  Good.
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  Yeah.
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  Well,
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  that's
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  really
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  good
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  because
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  I'm
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  wearing
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  my
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  jammies.
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  That
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  probably
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  would
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  unnerve
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  our
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  viewers.
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  And
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  our
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  guest.
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  Who
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  is
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  our
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  guest
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  today?
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  Our
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  guest
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  is
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  Debbie
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  Casper.
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  She's
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  a
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  stand
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  up
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  comedian
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  and
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  a
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  writer.
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  She
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  has
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  a
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  one
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  woman
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  show
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  right
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  now
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  called
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  Monkeys
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  on
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  my
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  Back
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  and
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  everywhere
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  else.
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  It's
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  playing
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  at
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  the
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  Odyssey
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  theater
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  in
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  west
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  la.
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  She
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  is
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  a
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  two
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  time
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  Emmy
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  nominated
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  writer
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  and
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  multiple
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  award
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  winning
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  comedian.
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  Hi,
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  Debbie,
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  how
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  are
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  you?
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  Well,
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  I'm
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  good,
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  how
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  are
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  you?
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  I
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  was
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  wondering
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  when
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  I
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  was
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  gonna
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  be
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  a
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  part
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  of
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  this.
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  Yeah.
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  Hey
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  Phil.
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  What?
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  Is
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  there
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  a
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  TV
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  on
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  at
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  your
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  house
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  or
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  something?
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  Oh,
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  no,
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  that's
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  Adele
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  talking,
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  doing
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  her
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  webinar.
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  Can
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  you
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  hear
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  it?
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  Yes.
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  All
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  right,
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  let
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  me
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  go
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  into
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  the
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  bathroom
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  and
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  see
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  if
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  that
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  works.
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  Okay,
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  hold
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  on.
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  My
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  phone.
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  I
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  mean,
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  my
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  God.
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  Yeah,
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  go
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  to
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  the
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  bathroom.
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  Privacy.
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  No
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  flushing
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  anymore.
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  Flushing.
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  Oh,
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  no,
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  I'm
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  not
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  in
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  flushing.
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  I'm
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  in
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  Lewis,
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  Delaware.
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  As
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  soon
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  as
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  my
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  co
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  host
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  gets
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  in
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  the
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  toilet,
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  I'll.
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  All
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  right,
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  hold
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  on.
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  The
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  whole
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  show
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  is
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  going
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  in
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  the
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  toilet.
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  How's
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  this?
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  Much
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  better.
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  Debbie,
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  you're
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  so
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  patient.
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  Thank
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  you
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  so
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  much.
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  I'm
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  just
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  drunk.
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  It's
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  okay.
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  I
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  went
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  to
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  see
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  your
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  show,
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  which
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  I
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  highly
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  recommend.
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  It's
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  funny
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  and
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  pretty
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  heart
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  wrenching.
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  Monkeys
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  on
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  my
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  back
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  and
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  everywhere
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  else
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  kind
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  of
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  alludes
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  to
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  all
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  the
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  things.
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  That
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  I
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  can't
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  stop
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  doing.
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  All
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  the
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  things.
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  You
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  know.
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  The
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  actual
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  definition
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  of
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  monkeys
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  on
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  your
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  back
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  is
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  I
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  think
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  it's
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  from
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  like
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  the
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  days
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  of
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  the
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  heroin
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  addicts,
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  musicians
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  when
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  they
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  were
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  heroin
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  addicts.
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  But
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  it
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  has
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  since
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  come
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  to
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  mean
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  anything
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  that
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  you
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  can't
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  get
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  out
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  from
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  under,
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  including
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  a
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  mortgage.
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  So
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  for
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  me,
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  I'm
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  a
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  recovering
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  alcoholic,
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  so
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  I
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  experience
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  very
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  obsessive
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  compulsive
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  lifestyle
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  of
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  anything
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  that
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  isn't
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  alcohol
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  that
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  I
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  attached
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  to.
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  Shopping
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  too
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  much,
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  spending
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  too
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  much
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  money,
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  eating
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  too
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  much
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  sugar,
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  craving
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  too
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  many
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  laughs.
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  It's
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  just
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  nothing's
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  ever
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  enough.
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  So
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  that's
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  basically
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  what
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  I'm
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  trying
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  to
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  say.
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  With
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  the
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  title.
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  Does
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  it
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  say
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  it,
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  do
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  you
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  think?
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  Yeah.
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  Well,
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  particularly
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  when
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  you
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  see
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  the
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  show.
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  You
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  grew
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  up
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  in
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  New
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  Jersey.
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  Exit
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  4.
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  Yeah,
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  we
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  talked
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  about
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  this.
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  Yeah,
• 2:43
  yeah.
• 2:43
  Cherry
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  Hill,
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  South
• 2:44
  Jersey.
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  Yeah.
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  You
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  were
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  a
• 2:45
  child
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  of
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  the
• 2:46
  50s
• 2:46
  and
• 2:47
  60s.
• 2:47
  You
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  are
• 2:48
  a
• 2:48
  classic
• 2:48
  boomer.
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  I
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  am.
• 2:50
  You
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  open
• 2:51
  up
• 2:51
  the
• 2:51
  show
• 2:51
  talking
• 2:52
  about
• 2:52
  your
• 2:52
  upbringing
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  and
• 2:53
  your
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  parents
• 2:54
  seem
• 2:54
  to
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  be
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  fairly
• 2:55
  proud.
• 2:55
  Alcoholics.
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  Oh,
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  they
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  were
• 2:58
  what
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  I
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  call
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  white
• 2:59
  collar
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  alcoholics.
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  You're
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  not
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  supposed
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  to
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  call
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  somebody
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  an
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  alcoholic
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  because
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  it's
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  a
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  self
• 3:04
  diagnosed
• 3:05
  disease.
• 3:05
  However,
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  they're
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  both
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  dead
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  and
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  gone
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  and
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  they
• 3:09
  were
• 3:09
  just
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  alcoholics.
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  So
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  I
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  can't
• 3:11
  help
• 3:11
  it.
• 3:11
  I
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  can't
• 3:12
  help
• 3:12
  but
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  say
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  it.
• 3:13
  I
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  gotta
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  say,
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  you
• 3:15
  know,
• 3:15
  Debbie,
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  what
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  you
• 3:16
  said
• 3:16
  is
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  so
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  true.
• 3:17
  Middle
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  class
• 3:18
  alcoholics.
• 3:19
  Both
• 3:19
  of
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  my
• 3:20
  parents
• 3:20
  would
• 3:21
  end
• 3:21
  their
• 3:22
  day
• 3:22
  sitting
• 3:23
  in
• 3:23
  chairs
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  or
• 3:24
  with
• 3:24
  glasses
• 3:25
  of
• 3:25
  scotch
• 3:26
  in
• 3:26
  their
• 3:26
  hand
• 3:27
  smoking
• 3:27
  cigarettes.
• 3:28
  Yeah.
• 3:29
  My
• 3:29
  girlfriend
• 3:29
  Adele
• 3:30
  comes
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  from
• 3:31
  West
• 3:31
  Orange,
• 3:32
  New
• 3:32
  Jersey
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  and
• 3:34
  she
• 3:34
  was
• 3:34
  telling
• 3:34
  me
• 3:35
  just
• 3:35
  today
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  about
• 3:36
  her
• 3:37
  parents
• 3:38
  sitting
• 3:38
  and
• 3:38
  having
• 3:39
  cheese
• 3:39
  and
• 3:39
  crackers.
• 3:41
  Her
• 3:41
  mom
• 3:41
  had
• 3:41
  an
• 3:41
  Old
• 3:42
  Fashioned.
• 3:42
  She
• 3:43
  used
• 3:43
  to
• 3:43
  dip
• 3:43
  her
• 3:43
  cheese
• 3:44
  and
• 3:44
  crackers
• 3:44
  into
• 3:45
  the
• 3:45
  Old
• 3:45
  Fashioned.
• 3:45
  Oh
• 3:46
  my
• 3:46
  God,
• 3:47
  that's
• 3:47
  classic.
• 3:48
  Yeah,
• 3:49
  well,
• 3:49
  she
• 3:49
  was
• 3:49
  taking
• 3:49
  good
• 3:50
  care
• 3:50
  of
• 3:50
  herself.
• 3:51
  Cause
• 3:51
  she
• 3:51
  was
• 3:51
  eating
• 3:52
  while
• 3:52
  she
• 3:53
  was
• 3:53
  drinking.
• 3:53
  But
• 3:53
  there
• 3:53
  are
• 3:54
  consequences
• 3:54
  of
• 3:55
  being
• 3:55
  raised
• 3:55
  by
• 3:56
  two
• 3:56
  alcoholics.
• 3:57
  That's
• 3:57
  right.
• 3:57
  You're
• 3:58
  gonna
• 3:58
  become
• 3:58
  a
• 3:58
  comedian.
• 4:01
  It's
• 4:01
  so
• 4:01
  true.
• 4:01
  You're
• 4:01
  gonna
• 4:02
  become
• 4:02
  an
• 4:02
  alcoholic.
• 4:03
  That's
• 4:03
  gonna
• 4:03
  lead
• 4:04
  you
• 4:04
  down
• 4:04
  many
• 4:04
  roads
• 4:05
  you
• 4:05
  may
• 4:05
  not
• 4:05
  have
• 4:05
  gone
• 4:06
  down
• 4:06
  to.
• 4:06
  No.
• 4:07
  The
• 4:07
  interesting
• 4:07
  thing
• 4:08
  about
• 4:08
  that
• 4:08
  era
• 4:09
  is
• 4:09
  that,
• 4:10
  to
• 4:10
  me
• 4:10
  anyway,
• 4:11
  is
• 4:11
  that
• 4:13
  almost
• 4:13
  everybody
• 4:14
  I
• 4:14
  knew,
• 4:15
  parents
• 4:16
  drank
• 4:17
  too
• 4:17
  much
• 4:17
  alcoholically.
• 4:18
  Starting
• 4:19
  at
• 4:19
  3
• 4:19
  o'
• 4:19
  clock
• 4:19
  in
• 4:19
  the
• 4:19
  afternoon,
• 4:20
  my
• 4:20
  mom
• 4:20
  and
• 4:20
  her
• 4:20
  friends
• 4:21
  would
• 4:21
  gather.
• 4:22
  So
• 4:22
  when
• 4:22
  the
• 4:22
  kids
• 4:23
  came
• 4:23
  home
• 4:23
  from
• 4:23
  school,
• 4:23
  we'd
• 4:24
  all
• 4:24
  have
• 4:24
  to
• 4:24
  come
• 4:24
  to
• 4:24
  one
• 4:24
  house.
• 4:25
  Cause
• 4:25
  that's
• 4:25
  where
• 4:25
  the
• 4:25
  mothers
• 4:26
  would
• 4:26
  be
• 4:26
  drinking
• 4:27
  and
• 4:27
  they'd
• 4:27
  be
• 4:27
  having
• 4:28
  their
• 4:28
  high
• 4:28
  balls,
• 4:29
  you
• 4:29
  know,
• 4:29
  their
• 4:29
  bourbon
• 4:30
  and
• 4:30
  water,
• 4:30
  their
• 4:31
  Manhattans.
• 4:32
  And
• 4:32
  if
• 4:32
  you
• 4:32
  walked
• 4:33
  in
• 4:33
  and
• 4:33
  you
• 4:33
  needed
• 4:34
  something,
• 4:34
  it
• 4:34
  was
• 4:34
  like,
• 4:35
  mommy,
• 4:35
  I
• 4:36
  need.
• 4:36
  Well,
• 4:36
  have
• 4:36
  a
• 4:37
  cookie,
• 4:37
  honey.
• 4:37
  You
• 4:38
  know,
• 4:38
  have
• 4:38
  a
• 4:38
  cookie.
• 4:38
  Have
• 4:39
  a
• 4:39
  cookie.
• 4:39
  She
• 4:40
  would.
• 4:40
  The
• 4:41
  cookie
• 4:41
  drawer
• 4:41
  was
• 4:41
  my
• 4:42
  mother
• 4:43
  for
• 4:43
  many,
• 4:43
  many
• 4:44
  years,
• 4:44
  until
• 4:44
  I
• 4:45
  was
• 4:45
  old
• 4:46
  enough
• 4:46
  to
• 4:46
  drink.
• 4:46
  But
• 4:47
  I
• 4:47
  started
• 4:47
  to
• 4:47
  say
• 4:47
  something
• 4:48
  else,
• 4:48
  which
• 4:48
  was
• 4:49
  everybody
• 4:50
  was
• 4:50
  drinking
• 4:50
  like
• 4:50
  that.
• 4:51
  To
• 4:51
  my
• 4:52
  knowledge.
• 4:52
  When
• 4:53
  I
• 4:53
  looked
• 4:53
  back
• 4:53
  at
• 4:54
  my
• 4:54
  upbringing,
• 4:54
  I
• 4:55
  realized
• 4:55
  not
• 4:56
  everybody
• 4:56
  was
• 4:56
  drinking.
• 4:57
  My
• 4:57
  parents
• 4:58
  attracted
• 4:59
  the
• 4:59
  drinkers.
• 5:00
  That's
• 5:00
  who
• 5:00
  they
• 5:00
  hung
• 5:01
  with.
• 5:01
  So
• 5:02
  all
• 5:02
  of
• 5:02
  my
• 5:03
  childhood
• 5:03
  friends,
• 5:04
  they
• 5:05
  were
• 5:05
  all
• 5:05
  raised
• 5:05
  by
• 5:05
  alcoholics
• 5:06
  too.
• 5:06
  So
• 5:07
  we're
• 5:07
  all
• 5:07
  like
• 5:08
  insane.
• 5:09
  Wow.
• 5:10
  And
• 5:10
  it
• 5:10
  came
• 5:10
  with
• 5:10
  the
• 5:10
  territory.
• 5:11
  I
• 5:11
  remember
• 5:11
  growing
• 5:11
  up,
• 5:12
  everybody
• 5:12
  smoked
• 5:13
  cigarettes
• 5:14
  and
• 5:14
  had
• 5:15
  drinks
• 5:15
  and
• 5:16
  they
• 5:16
  go
• 5:16
  to
• 5:16
  the
• 5:16
  diner
• 5:17
  and
• 5:17
  have
• 5:17
  Cigarettes
• 5:17
  and
• 5:18
  have
• 5:18
  coffee.
• 5:18
  Yeah.
• 5:19
  And
• 5:19
  our
• 5:19
  mothers
• 5:19
  all
• 5:19
  smoked
• 5:20
  cigarettes
• 5:21
  carrying
• 5:22
  us
• 5:22
  in
• 5:22
  their,
• 5:23
  you
• 5:23
  know,
• 5:24
  in
• 5:24
  their
• 5:24
  wombs.
• 5:24
  And
• 5:25
  my
• 5:25
  mother
• 5:25
  was
• 5:25
  like,
• 5:26
  well,
• 5:26
  I
• 5:26
  was
• 5:26
  smoking
• 5:27
  for
• 5:27
  two,
• 5:27
  you
• 5:28
  know.
• 5:30
  Did
• 5:30
  she
• 5:30
  drink
• 5:31
  while
• 5:31
  she
• 5:31
  was.
• 5:32
  Oh,
• 5:32
  they
• 5:32
  all
• 5:32
  did.
• 5:33
  Wow.
• 5:33
  So
• 5:33
  did
• 5:34
  if
• 5:34
  your
• 5:34
  parents
• 5:34
  drank.
• 5:35
  Yeah.
• 5:35
  They
• 5:36
  did
• 5:36
  not
• 5:36
  know
• 5:37
  about
• 5:37
  alcohol.
• 5:38
  Fetal
• 5:38
  syndrome.
• 5:39
  They
• 5:39
  didn't
• 5:39
  know
• 5:39
  anything.
• 5:40
  They
• 5:40
  all
• 5:40
  smoked
• 5:41
  and
• 5:41
  drank
• 5:41
  all
• 5:42
  the
• 5:42
  way,
• 5:42
  and
• 5:42
  then
• 5:42
  they
• 5:43
  all
• 5:43
  just
• 5:43
  barraged.
• 5:45
  I
• 5:46
  grew
• 5:46
  up
• 5:46
  in
• 5:46
  a
• 5:46
  house
• 5:47
  that
• 5:47
  had
• 5:47
  five
• 5:48
  packs
• 5:48
  of
• 5:48
  cigarettes
• 5:49
  a
• 5:49
  day,
• 5:49
  smoked
• 5:49
  in
• 5:50
  it
• 5:50
  and
• 5:50
  blown
• 5:51
  in
• 5:51
  my
• 5:51
  face.
• 5:52
  And
• 5:52
  then
• 5:52
  we
• 5:52
  would
• 5:52
  get
• 5:53
  in
• 5:53
  the
• 5:53
  car,
• 5:53
  and
• 5:53
  we
• 5:53
  would
• 5:53
  drive
• 5:54
  from
• 5:54
  New
• 5:54
  Jersey
• 5:54
  to
• 5:55
  Florida
• 5:55
  with
• 5:55
  the
• 5:56
  windows
• 5:56
  up.
• 5:56
  And
• 5:57
  five
• 5:58
  packs
• 5:58
  of
• 5:58
  cigarettes
• 5:59
  smoked
• 5:59
  in
• 6:00
  one
• 6:00
  day
• 6:00
  with
• 6:01
  the
• 6:01
  windows
• 6:01
  up.
• 6:02
  Hey,
• 6:02
  Phil,
• 6:03
  does
• 6:03
  that
• 6:03
  bathroom
• 6:04
  have
• 6:04
  a
• 6:04
  door?
• 6:05
  Because
• 6:05
  we
• 6:05
  can
• 6:05
  still.
• 6:06
  Can
• 6:06
  you
• 6:06
  still
• 6:06
  hear
• 6:06
  it?
• 6:07
  Yes.
• 6:07
  How
• 6:08
  about
• 6:08
  a
• 6:08
  gag?
• 6:09
  The
• 6:09
  only
• 6:10
  other
• 6:10
  thing
• 6:10
  I
• 6:10
  could
• 6:10
  do
• 6:11
  is
• 6:11
  I'm
• 6:11
  getting
• 6:11
  into
• 6:12
  the
• 6:12
  shower.
• 6:13
  I
• 6:13
  told
• 6:13
  you
• 6:13
  to
• 6:14
  do
• 6:14
  that.
• 6:14
  All
• 6:14
  right.
• 6:14
  And
• 6:15
  I'm
• 6:15
  going
• 6:15
  to
• 6:15
  close
• 6:15
  the
• 6:15
  shower.
• 6:16
  Shower
• 6:16
  door.
• 6:16
  Here
• 6:17
  we
• 6:17
  go.
• 6:17
  I
• 6:17
  think
• 6:17
  if
• 6:17
  you
• 6:18
  just
• 6:18
  close
• 6:18
  the
• 6:18
  door
• 6:18
  to
• 6:19
  the
• 6:19
  bathroom,
• 6:19
  it
• 6:19
  would
• 6:20
  be
• 6:20
  fine.
• 6:20
  No,
• 6:20
  don't
• 6:21
  risk
• 6:21
  close
• 6:21
  to
• 6:21
  the
• 6:21
  bathroom.
• 6:22
  Okay.
• 6:22
  What
• 6:22
  I'm
• 6:23
  trying
• 6:23
  to
• 6:23
  tell
• 6:23
  you.
• 6:23
  Okay.
• 6:24
  Part
• 6:24
  of
• 6:24
  the
• 6:24
  shower
• 6:25
  just
• 6:25
  fell
• 6:25
  down
• 6:26
  on
• 6:26
  me.
• 6:26
  Yeah,
• 6:26
  don't
• 6:27
  turn
• 6:27
  on
• 6:27
  the
• 6:27
  water.
• 6:28
  Part
• 6:28
  of
• 6:28
  this
• 6:28
  just
• 6:29
  fell
• 6:29
  down.
• 6:29
  Oh,
• 6:30
  boy.
• 6:30
  And
• 6:30
  I'm
• 6:30
  actually
• 6:31
  standing
• 6:31
  in
• 6:31
  water.
• 6:32
  Welcome
• 6:33
  to
• 6:33
  the
• 6:33
  Boomer
• 6:33
  show.
• 6:33
  This.
• 6:34
  This
• 6:34
  is
• 6:34
  the
• 6:35
  sacri.
• 6:35
  I
• 6:36
  hope
• 6:36
  our
• 6:36
  listener
• 6:36
  enjoys
• 6:37
  the
• 6:37
  sacrifice
• 6:38
  that
• 6:39
  I'm.
• 6:39
  I'm
• 6:39
  going
• 6:39
  through
• 6:40
  here.
• 6:40
  All
• 6:41
  right,
• 6:41
  now
• 6:41
  I
• 6:41
  am
• 6:41
  in
• 6:42
  this
• 6:43
  enclosed
• 6:44
  shower,
• 6:45
  standing,
• 6:46
  stand
• 6:46
  up
• 6:46
  shower.
• 6:47
  Fantastic.
• 6:48
  Oh,
• 6:48
  much
• 6:48
  better.
• 6:49
  Okay.
• 6:50
  All
• 6:51
  right.
• 6:51
  I'll
• 6:51
  do
• 6:51
  the
• 6:52
  rest
• 6:52
  of
• 6:52
  the
• 6:52
  show
• 6:52
  from
• 6:53
  the
• 6:53
  shower,
• 6:53
  but
• 6:53
  I'm
• 6:54
  not
• 6:54
  gonna
• 6:54
  turn
• 6:54
  it
• 6:54
  on
• 6:55
  to
• 6:55
  prove
• 6:55
  that
• 6:55
  I'm
• 6:55
  here.
• 6:56
  You're
• 6:56
  not
• 6:56
  gonna
• 6:56
  get
• 6:56
  washed
• 6:57
  up
• 6:57
  on
• 6:57
  this
• 6:57
  show,
• 6:57
  Phil.
• 6:58
  No,
• 6:59
  I'm
• 7:00
  already
• 7:00
  washed
• 7:00
  up,
• 7:01
  and
• 7:01
  I
• 7:01
  deserve
• 7:02
  it.
• 7:02
  We
• 7:02
  are
• 7:03
  gonna
• 7:03
  get
• 7:03
  to
• 7:03
  our
• 7:03
  guest
• 7:03
  today,
• 7:04
  Debbie
• 7:04
  Casper.
• 7:05
  We're
• 7:05
  having
• 7:06
  our
• 7:06
  own
• 7:06
  thing.
• 7:06
  We're
• 7:07
  all
• 7:07
  in
• 7:07
  the
• 7:07
  same
• 7:07
  boat.
• 7:08
  But
• 7:09
  I
• 7:09
  never
• 7:09
  really
• 7:10
  got
• 7:10
  into
• 7:10
  the
• 7:10
  single
• 7:11
  standup
• 7:12
  scene,
• 7:12
  and
• 7:13
  I
• 7:13
  am
• 7:13
  cur.
• 7:15
  Transitioned
• 7:16
  to
• 7:16
  that.
• 7:17
  I
• 7:17
  started
• 7:17
  as
• 7:18
  an
• 7:18
  actress,
• 7:19
  and
• 7:19
  then
• 7:19
  I
• 7:19
  got
• 7:19
  into
• 7:20
  improv.
• 7:21
  I
• 7:21
  did
• 7:21
  comedy
• 7:22
  improv,
• 7:22
  and
• 7:23
  I
• 7:23
  just
• 7:24
  loved
• 7:24
  getting
• 7:24
  the
• 7:25
  laughs,
• 7:25
  and
• 7:25
  I
• 7:26
  couldn't
• 7:26
  get
• 7:26
  enough.
• 7:27
  And
• 7:28
  I
• 7:28
  started
• 7:28
  hanging
• 7:29
  out
• 7:29
  at
• 7:29
  the
• 7:29
  comedy
• 7:30
  clubs,
• 7:31
  and
• 7:31
  I
• 7:31
  couldn't
• 7:32
  get
• 7:32
  enough
• 7:32
  of
• 7:32
  them.
• 7:33
  It
• 7:33
  was
• 7:33
  the
• 7:33
  mid-80s,
• 7:34
  and
• 7:34
  comedy
• 7:35
  was
• 7:35
  exploding.
• 7:37
  Every
• 7:37
  pizzeria
• 7:38
  and
• 7:39
  bowling
• 7:39
  alley
• 7:39
  in
• 7:39
  America
• 7:40
  had
• 7:40
  a
• 7:40
  comedy
• 7:40
  club
• 7:41
  in
• 7:41
  it.
• 7:41
  That's
• 7:42
  right.
• 7:42
  Yeah.
• 7:42
  You'd
• 7:43
  pull
• 7:43
  up
• 7:43
  to
• 7:43
  do
• 7:43
  a
• 7:43
  gig,
• 7:44
  it
• 7:44
  would
• 7:44
  say,
• 7:44
  fish
• 7:44
  fry,
• 7:45
  $4.99
• 7:45
  live
• 7:46
  comed
• 7:47
  all
• 7:47
  you
• 7:47
  can
• 7:47
  Eat.
• 7:47
  You
• 7:48
  know,
• 7:48
  that
• 7:48
  was.
• 7:49
  And
• 7:50
  I
• 7:50
  was
• 7:51
  hanging.
• 7:51
  This
• 7:51
  is
• 7:52
  a
• 7:52
  true
• 7:52
  story.
• 7:52
  I'm
• 7:53
  bottoming
• 7:53
  out
• 7:53
  as
• 7:53
  an
• 7:54
  alcoholic.
• 7:54
  And
• 7:54
  I'm
• 7:54
  hanging
• 7:55
  out
• 7:55
  at
• 7:55
  the
• 7:55
  comedy
• 7:56
  clubs,
• 7:56
  and
• 7:56
  I
• 7:57
  got
• 7:57
  a
• 7:57
  bill
• 7:57
  one
• 7:58
  night,
• 7:58
  a
• 7:58
  bar
• 7:59
  tab
• 7:59
  that
• 7:59
  was
• 8:00
  $50
• 8:01
  in
• 8:01
  1984.
• 8:03
  I'm
• 8:03
  gonna
• 8:03
  let
• 8:03
  you
• 8:03
  do
• 8:03
  the
• 8:04
  math
• 8:04
  on
• 8:04
  that.
• 8:04
  That's
• 8:05
  gotta
• 8:05
  be
• 8:05
  like
• 8:05
  150
• 8:06
  now.
• 8:07
  Okay.
• 8:08
  Beer.
• 8:08
  Just
• 8:09
  drink
• 8:09
  anyway.
• 8:10
  And
• 8:10
  then
• 8:11
  I
• 8:11
  find
• 8:11
  out
• 8:11
  that
• 8:12
  comedians
• 8:12
  drink
• 8:13
  for
• 8:13
  free.
• 8:13
  And
• 8:14
  I'm
• 8:14
  like,
• 8:14
  wow,
• 8:15
  I'm
• 8:16
  funny.
• 8:17
  I'm
• 8:17
  pre.
• 8:19
  And
• 8:19
  the
• 8:19
  next
• 8:19
  thing
• 8:19
  I
• 8:20
  knew,
• 8:20
  I
• 8:20
  was
• 8:20
  signing
• 8:21
  up
• 8:21
  for
• 8:21
  an
• 8:21
  open
• 8:21
  mic,
• 8:22
  and
• 8:23
  it
• 8:23
  got
• 8:23
  me
• 8:23
  on
• 8:24
  stage
• 8:24
  so
• 8:25
  I
• 8:25
  didn't
• 8:25
  have
• 8:25
  to.
• 8:26
  You
• 8:26
  know.
• 8:26
  I
• 8:27
  loved
• 8:27
  the
• 8:27
  control
• 8:27
  of
• 8:28
  it.
• 8:28
  I
• 8:28
  loved
• 8:28
  not
• 8:29
  having
• 8:29
  to
• 8:29
  wait
• 8:29
  for
• 8:29
  somebody
• 8:30
  to
• 8:30
  cast
• 8:30
  me
• 8:30
  in
• 8:31
  a
• 8:31
  play
• 8:31
  as
• 8:31
  an
• 8:31
  actress.
• 8:33
  And
• 8:33
  that
• 8:33
  started
• 8:34
  me
• 8:34
  writing
• 8:34
  Phil.
• 8:35
  I
• 8:35
  said,
• 8:35
  well,
• 8:35
  I
• 8:36
  guess
• 8:36
  at
• 8:36
  first
• 8:36
  I
• 8:37
  didn't
• 8:37
  know
• 8:37
  you
• 8:37
  had
• 8:37
  to
• 8:37
  write
• 8:38
  your
• 8:38
  own
• 8:38
  material.
• 8:38
  So
• 8:38
  I
• 8:39
  used
• 8:39
  to
• 8:39
  steal
• 8:40
  people's
• 8:40
  material,
• 8:41
  and
• 8:41
  I'd
• 8:42
  get
• 8:42
  on
• 8:42
  stage
• 8:42
  and
• 8:43
  I'd
• 8:43
  be
• 8:43
  doing
• 8:43
  Jerry
• 8:43
  Seinfeld's
• 8:44
  act,
• 8:45
  and
• 8:45
  some
• 8:45
  comedian
• 8:45
  pulled
• 8:46
  me
• 8:46
  aside
• 8:46
  and
• 8:46
  said,
• 8:47
  you
• 8:47
  can't
• 8:47
  do
• 8:48
  Jerry
• 8:48
  Seinfeld's
• 8:49
  material.
• 8:49
  I'm
• 8:49
  like,
• 8:49
  ah.
• 8:50
  The
• 8:50
  open
• 8:51
  mic
• 8:51
  led
• 8:51
  you
• 8:51
  to
• 8:52
  an
• 8:52
  open
• 8:52
  bottle.
• 8:53
  Or
• 8:54
  vice
• 8:54
  versa.
• 8:54
  It
• 8:54
  was
• 8:55
  the
• 8:55
  same.
• 8:55
  Or
• 8:56
  vice
• 8:56
  versa.
• 8:56
  Right?
• 8:57
  Simultaneous.
• 8:58
  So
• 8:58
  you
• 8:58
  were
• 8:58
  raised
• 8:59
  in
• 8:59
  an
• 8:59
  alcoholic
• 9:00
  environment.
• 9:00
  When
• 9:00
  did
• 9:01
  you
• 9:01
  start
• 9:02
  drinking
• 9:02
  yourself?
• 9:03
  I
• 9:03
  was
• 9:03
  mixing
• 9:04
  my
• 9:04
  parents
• 9:05
  drinks
• 9:06
  at
• 9:06
  about
• 9:06
  age
• 9:06
  7
• 9:07
  and
• 9:07
  tasting
• 9:08
  them
• 9:09
  copiously.
• 9:10
  They
• 9:10
  had
• 9:10
  you
• 9:11
  mix
• 9:11
  the
• 9:11
  drinks?
• 9:11
  Oh,
• 9:12
  yes.
• 9:12
  We
• 9:13
  weren't
• 9:13
  children.
• 9:13
  We
• 9:13
  were
• 9:14
  bartenders
• 9:14
  with
• 9:15
  no
• 9:15
  tip
• 9:15
  jar.
• 9:16
  They
• 9:16
  wanted
• 9:16
  to
• 9:16
  make
• 9:16
  you
• 9:16
  a
• 9:16
  mixologist.
• 9:17
  Yeah.
• 9:18
  Instead
• 9:18
  of
• 9:18
  a
• 9:18
  Girl
• 9:18
  Scout.
• 9:19
  That's
• 9:19
  true.
• 9:20
  It's
• 9:21
  true.
• 9:21
  So
• 9:22
  at
• 9:22
  about
• 9:23
  age
• 9:23
  12,
• 9:24
  we
• 9:24
  had
• 9:24
  a
• 9:24
  game
• 9:24
  room
• 9:25
  in
• 9:25
  the
• 9:25
  house.
• 9:25
  It
• 9:25
  was
• 9:26
  called
• 9:26
  the
• 9:26
  game
• 9:26
  room
• 9:26
  in
• 9:27
  everybody
• 9:27
  else's
• 9:27
  house
• 9:27
  in
• 9:28
  the
• 9:28
  neighborhood.
• 9:28
  Ours
• 9:29
  was
• 9:29
  called
• 9:29
  the
• 9:29
  bar
• 9:30
  room.
• 9:30
  My
• 9:31
  parents
• 9:31
  had
• 9:31
  this
• 9:32
  gorgeous
• 9:32
  bar
• 9:33
  installed
• 9:33
  in
• 9:33
  this
• 9:33
  room
• 9:34
  with
• 9:34
  a
• 9:34
  brass
• 9:34
  rail.
• 9:35
  And
• 9:35
  they
• 9:35
  had
• 9:36
  tons
• 9:36
  of
• 9:36
  parties.
• 9:37
  And
• 9:37
  we
• 9:37
  were
• 9:38
  having
• 9:38
  a
• 9:38
  Fourth
• 9:38
  of
• 9:39
  July
• 9:39
  party.
• 9:39
  I
• 9:39
  think
• 9:40
  I'm
• 9:40
  12,
• 9:41
  and
• 9:41
  I
• 9:41
  was
• 9:42
  the
• 9:42
  bartender.
• 9:42
  I
• 9:42
  was
• 9:42
  mixing
• 9:43
  drinks.
• 9:43
  So
• 9:43
  it
• 9:43
  was
• 9:44
  one
• 9:44
  for
• 9:44
  you,
• 9:45
  one
• 9:46
  for
• 9:46
  me.
• 9:46
  My
• 9:46
  first
• 9:47
  drink
• 9:47
  was
• 9:48
  vodka
• 9:49
  and
• 9:49
  coke.
• 9:50
  Oh,
• 9:50
  my
• 9:50
  God.
• 9:51
  I
• 9:51
  know.
• 9:51
  Disgusting.
• 9:52
  Oh,
• 9:52
  wait
• 9:52
  a
• 9:52
  minute.
• 9:52
  That's
• 9:53
  not
• 9:53
  disgusting.
• 9:53
  My
• 9:54
  first
• 9:54
  drink
• 9:54
  was
• 9:54
  BlackBerry
• 9:55
  brandy
• 9:56
  and
• 9:56
  Pepsi
• 9:56
  Cola.
• 9:58
  Your
• 9:59
  folks
• 9:59
  condoned
• 10:00
  this?
• 10:00
  They
• 10:00
  didn't.
• 10:02
  Were
• 10:02
  they
• 10:02
  oblivious?
• 10:03
  They
• 10:03
  were
• 10:03
  pretty
• 10:03
  oblivious.
• 10:04
  They
• 10:04
  didn't
• 10:05
  know
• 10:05
  they
• 10:05
  got
• 10:05
  drunk
• 10:06
  whenever
• 10:06
  their
• 10:07
  friends
• 10:07
  were
• 10:07
  over.
• 10:07
  It
• 10:07
  was
• 10:08
  the
• 10:08
  Fourth
• 10:08
  of
• 10:08
  July,
• 10:09
  big
• 10:09
  picnic,
• 10:10
  lots
• 10:10
  of
• 10:10
  boozers
• 10:11
  over,
• 10:11
  they're
• 10:12
  all
• 10:12
  drinking.
• 10:13
  They
• 10:13
  finally
• 10:13
  figured
• 10:14
  out
• 10:14
  how
• 10:14
  drunk
• 10:14
  I
• 10:15
  was
• 10:15
  when
• 10:15
  they
• 10:15
  asked
• 10:15
  me
• 10:16
  to
• 10:16
  go
• 10:16
  get
• 10:16
  the
• 10:16
  salad.
• 10:17
  My
• 10:17
  parents
• 10:17
  had
• 10:17
  this
• 10:18
  huge
• 10:18
  salad
• 10:18
  bowl.
• 10:19
  And
• 10:19
  they
• 10:20
  told
• 10:20
  me
• 10:20
  to
• 10:20
  get
• 10:20
  the
• 10:21
  watermelon
• 10:21
  in
• 10:22
  the
• 10:22
  salad.
• 10:22
  And
• 10:22
  I
• 10:22
  picked
• 10:23
  up
• 10:23
  the
• 10:23
  watermelon,
• 10:24
  and
• 10:24
  I
• 10:24
  put
• 10:24
  it
• 10:24
  in
• 10:24
  the
• 10:25
  salad
• 10:25
  and
• 10:25
  crushed
• 10:26
  the
• 10:26
  entire
• 10:26
  salad.
• 10:27
  And
• 10:27
  I
• 10:27
  walked
• 10:27
  downstairs
• 10:28
  going,
• 10:28
  here
• 10:29
  it
• 10:29
  is.
• 10:31
  And
• 10:31
  my
• 10:31
  parents
• 10:31
  went,
• 10:34
  you
• 10:34
  know,
• 10:35
  and
• 10:35
  they
• 10:36
  went,
• 10:36
  well,
• 10:36
  you
• 10:36
  learned
• 10:36
  how
• 10:37
  to
• 10:37
  speak.
• 10:37
  You
• 10:37
  learned
• 10:38
  how
• 10:38
  to
• 10:38
  speak
• 10:38
  drunk.
• 10:39
  I
• 10:39
  learned
• 10:39
  how
• 10:39
  to
• 10:39
  speak
• 10:39
  Heinekense
• 10:41
  very
• 10:41
  early
• 10:41
  age.
• 10:44
  You
• 10:45
  started
• 10:45
  drinking
• 10:45
  fairly
• 10:46
  heavily
• 10:46
  right
• 10:46
  off
• 10:46
  the
• 10:47
  bat.
• 10:47
  You
• 10:47
  know,
• 10:47
  you
• 10:47
  hear
• 10:48
  alcoholics
• 10:48
  tell
• 10:48
  their
• 10:49
  stories,
• 10:49
  and
• 10:49
  many
• 10:50
  people
• 10:50
  are
• 10:50
  like
• 10:50
  me,
• 10:51
  from
• 10:51
  the
• 10:51
  minute
• 10:51
  you
• 10:51
  have
• 10:52
  your
• 10:52
  first
• 10:52
  drink,
• 10:53
  you
• 10:53
  already
• 10:53
  can't
• 10:54
  control
• 10:54
  it.
• 10:55
  You
• 10:55
  just
• 10:55
  drink.
• 10:55
  And
• 10:56
  I
• 10:56
  drank
• 10:56
  that
• 10:57
  night
• 10:57
  until
• 10:57
  I
• 10:58
  passed
• 10:58
  out.
• 10:58
  I
• 10:59
  just
• 10:59
  drank
• 10:59
  until
• 10:59
  I
• 11:00
  passed
• 11:00
  out.
• 11:00
  My
• 11:01
  parents
• 11:01
  sent
• 11:01
  me
• 11:01
  to
• 11:01
  my
• 11:02
  room,
• 11:02
  and
• 11:02
  I
• 11:02
  just
• 11:02
  snuck
• 11:03
  a
• 11:03
  Coke
• 11:03
  and
• 11:03
  vodka
• 11:04
  up
• 11:04
  there
• 11:04
  and
• 11:04
  drank
• 11:05
  more
• 11:05
  until
• 11:05
  I
• 11:06
  passed
• 11:06
  out.
• 11:07
  Because
• 11:07
  now
• 11:07
  you're
• 11:07
  shamed
• 11:08
  at
• 11:09
  first.
• 11:09
  You
• 11:10
  know,
• 11:10
  it's
• 11:10
  like,
• 11:10
  ugh,
• 11:10
  I'm
• 11:11
  doing
• 11:11
  what
• 11:11
  I.
• 11:11
  And
• 11:12
  then
• 11:12
  you
• 11:12
  get
• 11:12
  caught.
• 11:13
  And
• 11:13
  then
• 11:13
  you
• 11:13
  drink
• 11:14
  around
• 11:14
  the
• 11:14
  shame.
• 11:14
  I
• 11:15
  mean,
• 11:15
  there's
• 11:15
  always
• 11:15
  a
• 11:15
  million
• 11:15
  reasons
• 11:16
  to
• 11:16
  have
• 11:16
  a
• 11:16
  drink.
• 11:17
  How
• 11:17
  often
• 11:17
  were
• 11:18
  you
• 11:18
  drinking
• 11:18
  at
• 11:18
  the.
• 11:18
  Oh,
• 11:19
  just
• 11:19
  weekends.
• 11:20
  I
• 11:20
  mean,
• 11:20
  I
• 11:20
  was
• 11:20
  still
• 11:20
  in
• 11:21
  high
• 11:21
  school,
• 11:21
  Right.
• 11:23
  I
• 11:23
  didn't
• 11:23
  go
• 11:23
  to
• 11:24
  skid
• 11:24
  row,
• 11:24
  for
• 11:25
  God's
• 11:25
  sake.
• 11:26
  Hey,
• 11:26
  Debbie.
• 11:27
  Debbie.
• 11:27
  Out
• 11:28
  here
• 11:28
  in
• 11:28
  Los
• 11:28
  Angeles,
• 11:29
  it's
• 11:29
  called
• 11:30
  Skid
• 11:30
  Drive.
• 11:31
  Is
• 11:31
  it
• 11:32
  Skid
• 11:33
  Drive.
• 11:33
  Thank
• 11:34
  you.
• 11:37
  He's
• 11:37
  in
• 11:37
  the
• 11:37
  bathtub
• 11:38
  all
• 11:38
  week.
• 11:38
  You
• 11:39
  took
• 11:39
  what
• 11:40
  eventually
• 11:40
  became
• 11:40
  painful
• 11:42
  and
• 11:42
  turned
• 11:43
  it
• 11:43
  into
• 11:43
  comedy,
• 11:44
  right?
• 11:45
  Yes.
• 11:46
  I
• 11:46
  went
• 11:46
  to
• 11:46
  college
• 11:47
  in
• 11:47
  Vermont,
• 11:47
  which
• 11:47
  was
• 11:48
  during
• 11:48
  the
• 11:48
  70s.
• 11:49
  It
• 11:49
  was
• 11:49
  a
• 11:49
  really
• 11:49
  liberal
• 11:50
  time,
• 11:50
  as
• 11:50
  I
• 11:50
  know
• 11:51
  you
• 11:51
  guys
• 11:51
  remember.
• 11:52
  Cause
• 11:53
  everybody
• 11:53
  talks
• 11:53
  about
• 11:54
  the
• 11:54
  60s,
• 11:55
  but
• 11:55
  the
• 11:55
  70s
• 11:56
  made
• 11:56
  the
• 11:57
  60s
• 11:57
  look
• 11:57
  like
• 11:58
  the
• 11:58
  50s.
• 11:59
  The
• 11:59
  70s
• 12:00
  were
• 12:00
  insane.
• 12:01
  Insane.
• 12:02
  We
• 12:02
  were
• 12:03
  allowed
• 12:03
  to
• 12:04
  smoke
• 12:04
  pot
• 12:04
  in
• 12:05
  our
• 12:05
  dorm
• 12:05
  rooms,
• 12:06
  and
• 12:06
  we
• 12:07
  did.
• 12:07
  People
• 12:07
  were
• 12:08
  dying
• 12:08
  from
• 12:09
  drug
• 12:09
  overdoses
• 12:10
  all
• 12:10
  over
• 12:10
  the
• 12:10
  world.
• 12:11
  So,
• 12:12
  you
• 12:12
  know,
• 12:12
  then
• 12:12
  the
• 12:13
  drugs
• 12:13
  come
• 12:13
  into
• 12:14
  the
• 12:14
  scene.
• 12:14
  And
• 12:15
  cocaine
• 12:15
  in
• 12:15
  the
• 12:16
  mid-70s,
• 12:16
  before
• 12:17
  it
• 12:17
  was
• 12:17
  stigmatized
• 12:18
  with
• 12:18
  crack,
• 12:19
  it
• 12:19
  was
• 12:19
  a
• 12:20
  party
• 12:20
  favor.
• 12:20
  Oh,
• 12:21
  not
• 12:21
  just
• 12:21
  a
• 12:21
  party
• 12:21
  favor.
• 12:22
  It
• 12:22
  was
• 12:22
  everybody's.
• 12:23
  Boy,
• 12:24
  I
• 12:24
  wish
• 12:24
  I
• 12:24
  could
• 12:24
  afford
• 12:25
  more.
• 12:25
  I
• 12:25
  mean,
• 12:26
  it
• 12:26
  was
• 12:26
  a
• 12:26
  thing.
• 12:26
  We
• 12:27
  all
• 12:27
  aspired
• 12:28
  to
• 12:28
  it.
• 12:28
  Yeah.
• 12:29
  Remember
• 12:29
  Robin
• 12:30
  Williams
• 12:30
  said,
• 12:30
  cocaine
• 12:31
  is
• 12:31
  God's
• 12:31
  way
• 12:32
  of
• 12:32
  telling
• 12:32
  you
• 12:32
  you're
• 12:32
  making
• 12:33
  too
• 12:33
  much
• 12:33
  money?
• 12:35
  Exactly.
• 12:35
  And
• 12:36
  it's
• 12:36
  true.
• 12:37
  So
• 12:37
  I
• 12:37
  would
• 12:38
  have
• 12:38
  to
• 12:38
  date
• 12:38
  coke
• 12:39
  dealers.
• 12:40
  That
• 12:40
  was
• 12:40
  the
• 12:40
  only
• 12:41
  way
• 12:41
  I
• 12:41
  could
• 12:41
  afford.
• 12:41
  Oh,
• 12:41
  my
• 12:41
  God.
• 12:42
  All
• 12:42
  right,
• 12:42
  how
• 12:43
  did
• 12:43
  this
• 12:43
  morph
• 12:43
  into
• 12:43
  comedy?
• 12:44
  I
• 12:44
  moved
• 12:45
  to
• 12:45
  New
• 12:45
  York
• 12:45
  City.
• 12:45
  I
• 12:45
  was
• 12:46
  a
• 12:46
  theater
• 12:46
  actress.
• 12:47
  I
• 12:47
  mean,
• 12:47
  when
• 12:47
  you're
• 12:47
  a
• 12:48
  new.
• 12:49
  A
• 12:49
  new
• 12:49
  alcoholic,
• 12:50
  you
• 12:51
  still.
• 12:52
  You
• 12:52
  don't
• 12:52
  have
• 12:52
  any
• 12:52
  control.
• 12:53
  Once
• 12:53
  I
• 12:53
  picked
• 12:54
  up
• 12:54
  my
• 12:54
  first
• 12:54
  drink,
• 12:54
  I
• 12:55
  had
• 12:55
  no
• 12:55
  control.
• 12:56
  But
• 12:56
  I
• 12:56
  Didn't
• 12:56
  pick
• 12:56
  my
• 12:57
  first
• 12:57
  drink
• 12:57
  up
• 12:57
  every
• 12:58
  single
• 12:58
  day.
• 12:58
  You
• 12:59
  know,
• 12:59
  I
• 12:59
  was
• 12:59
  doing
• 12:59
  shows.
• 13:00
  I
• 13:00
  became
• 13:00
  an
• 13:00
  actress.
• 13:01
  I
• 13:01
  went
• 13:01
  to
• 13:01
  grad
• 13:02
  school,
• 13:02
  I
• 13:02
  learned
• 13:03
  theater,
• 13:04
  and
• 13:04
  I
• 13:04
  moved
• 13:04
  to
• 13:05
  New
• 13:05
  York
• 13:05
  City
• 13:05
  to
• 13:05
  become,
• 13:06
  you
• 13:06
  know,
• 13:07
  Broadway
• 13:07
  star.
• 13:08
  I
• 13:08
  couldn't
• 13:08
  dance
• 13:09
  or
• 13:09
  sing,
• 13:10
  and
• 13:10
  apparently
• 13:10
  I
• 13:11
  wasn't
• 13:11
  a
• 13:11
  very
• 13:11
  good
• 13:11
  actress
• 13:12
  at
• 13:12
  that
• 13:12
  point
• 13:13
  either.
• 13:13
  But,
• 13:13
  you
• 13:14
  know,
• 13:14
  I
• 13:15
  had
• 13:15
  highfalutin
• 13:16
  ideas.
• 13:16
  Cause
• 13:17
  that
• 13:17
  went
• 13:17
  with
• 13:17
  my
• 13:17
  alcoholism.
• 13:19
  It's
• 13:19
  the,
• 13:20
  you
• 13:20
  know,
• 13:20
  reach
• 13:20
  for
• 13:21
  the
• 13:21
  stars,
• 13:21
  but
• 13:21
  you
• 13:22
  deserve.
• 13:23
  You
• 13:23
  deserve
• 13:24
  the
• 13:24
  dregs
• 13:25
  kind
• 13:25
  of
• 13:25
  syndrome.
• 13:26
  What
• 13:26
  do
• 13:26
  I
• 13:26
  say
• 13:27
  in
• 13:27
  my
• 13:27
  show?
• 13:27
  I'm
• 13:27
  a
• 13:28
  narcissist
• 13:29
  with
• 13:29
  low
• 13:29
  self
• 13:30
  esteem,
• 13:30
  which
• 13:30
  means
• 13:31
  I
• 13:31
  don't
• 13:31
  think
• 13:32
  much
• 13:32
  of
• 13:32
  myself,
• 13:32
  but
• 13:33
  I'm
• 13:33
  all
• 13:33
  I
• 13:33
  think
• 13:34
  about.
• 13:35
  So
• 13:35
  you
• 13:35
  drink.
• 13:36
  Oh,
• 13:36
  that's
• 13:36
  a
• 13:36
  good
• 13:36
  one.
• 13:37
  Yeah,
• 13:37
  it
• 13:37
  is.
• 13:38
  So
• 13:38
  that's
• 13:39
  the
• 13:39
  syndrome.
• 13:39
  You
• 13:39
  think
• 13:40
  you
• 13:40
  have
• 13:40
  a
• 13:41
  couple
• 13:41
  drinks
• 13:41
  and
• 13:41
  you
• 13:41
  think
• 13:42
  you're
• 13:42
  God
• 13:43
  because
• 13:43
  you
• 13:44
  don't
• 13:44
  see
• 13:45
  the
• 13:45
  faces
• 13:46
  people
• 13:46
  are
• 13:46
  making
• 13:47
  at
• 13:47
  you.
• 13:47
  One
• 13:47
  of
• 13:47
  the
• 13:48
  big
• 13:48
  takeaways
• 13:48
  from
• 13:48
  your
• 13:49
  show
• 13:49
  was
• 13:49
  that
• 13:50
  effect
• 13:50
  that
• 13:50
  the
• 13:51
  alcoholism
• 13:51
  in
• 13:51
  your
• 13:52
  household
• 13:52
  had
• 13:52
  on
• 13:52
  you.
• 13:53
  The
• 13:53
  things
• 13:53
  your
• 13:53
  parents
• 13:54
  would
• 13:54
  say
• 13:54
  to
• 13:55
  you.
• 13:55
  Oh,
• 13:55
  yeah,
• 13:56
  just
• 13:57
  destroyed
• 13:57
  your
• 13:58
  self
• 13:58
  esteem.
• 13:59
  Harsh
• 13:59
  criticism.
• 14:00
  How
• 14:00
  did
• 14:00
  you
• 14:00
  get
• 14:00
  over
• 14:01
  that?
• 14:01
  I
• 14:01
  haven't.
• 14:03
  You
• 14:03
  still
• 14:03
  haven't.
• 14:04
  Yeah,
• 14:04
  shut
• 14:05
  up.
• 14:08
  I'll
• 14:08
  never
• 14:08
  get
• 14:08
  over
• 14:09
  it.
• 14:09
  And
• 14:09
  that's
• 14:10
  my.
• 14:11
  That's
• 14:11
  bad.
• 14:12
  I
• 14:12
  mean,
• 14:12
  a
• 14:12
  lot
• 14:12
  of
• 14:12
  people
• 14:13
  said
• 14:13
  to
• 14:13
  me,
• 14:13
  get
• 14:13
  over
• 14:14
  it.
• 14:14
  And
• 14:14
  I'm
• 14:14
  like,
• 14:14
  all
• 14:15
  right,
• 14:15
  well,
• 14:15
  tell
• 14:15
  me
• 14:15
  how
• 14:15
  to
• 14:16
  do
• 14:16
  that.
• 14:16
  I've
• 14:17
  gotten
• 14:17
  over
• 14:17
  a
• 14:18
  lot
• 14:18
  of
• 14:18
  it.
• 14:18
  I
• 14:18
  think
• 14:18
  it's
• 14:19
  funny.
• 14:19
  Now,
• 14:20
  listen,
• 14:20
  I
• 14:20
  loved
• 14:21
  my
• 14:21
  parents,
• 14:21
  and
• 14:21
  my
• 14:22
  show
• 14:22
  is
• 14:22
  a
• 14:23
  pretty
• 14:23
  big
• 14:24
  exaggeration.
• 14:25
  Sure.
• 14:26
  You
• 14:26
  know,
• 14:26
  it's
• 14:26
  like
• 14:26
  Mark
• 14:27
  Twain
• 14:27
  says,
• 14:28
  nonfiction
• 14:29
  is
• 14:29
  the
• 14:29
  truth,
• 14:30
  but
• 14:31
  better.
• 14:32
  So
• 14:32
  I
• 14:32
  don't
• 14:34
  pat
• 14:34
  my
• 14:35
  boyfriend
• 14:35
  who
• 14:36
  sadly
• 14:36
  dies,
• 14:36
  and
• 14:36
  I
• 14:37
  talk
• 14:37
  about
• 14:37
  that
• 14:37
  in
• 14:37
  the
• 14:38
  show.
• 14:38
  His
• 14:38
  mother
• 14:38
  read.
• 14:39
  I
• 14:39
  wrote
• 14:39
  a
• 14:39
  book
• 14:40
  about
• 14:40
  a
• 14:40
  lot
• 14:40
  of
• 14:40
  the
• 14:41
  same
• 14:41
  stuff.
• 14:41
  And
• 14:41
  she
• 14:42
  read
• 14:42
  it
• 14:42
  and
• 14:43
  she
• 14:43
  said
• 14:44
  to
• 14:44
  me,
• 14:44
  I
• 14:44
  feel
• 14:45
  so.
• 14:45
  I
• 14:46
  feel
• 14:46
  so
• 14:46
  sorry
• 14:47
  for
• 14:47
  you.
• 14:47
  You
• 14:48
  know,
• 14:48
  what
• 14:48
  horrible
• 14:49
  childhood
• 14:49
  you
• 14:49
  had?
• 14:50
  I
• 14:50
  went,
• 14:50
  it
• 14:50
  was
• 14:51
  not
• 14:51
  a
• 14:51
  horrible
• 14:51
  childhood.
• 14:52
  I
• 14:52
  had
• 14:52
  a
• 14:52
  blast.
• 14:53
  I'm
• 14:53
  just
• 14:54
  not
• 14:54
  writing
• 14:54
  about
• 14:54
  the
• 14:55
  good
• 14:55
  parts
• 14:55
  because
• 14:55
  that's
• 14:56
  not
• 14:56
  particularly
• 14:57
  interesting.
• 14:58
  My
• 14:58
  parents
• 14:58
  were
• 14:59
  alcoholics,
• 14:59
  but
• 15:00
  they
• 15:00
  loved
• 15:00
  me.
• 15:01
  The
• 15:01
  problem
• 15:02
  with
• 15:02
  alcoholism
• 15:03
  is
• 15:03
  you
• 15:03
  don't
• 15:03
  feel
• 15:04
  love.
• 15:04
  You
• 15:05
  don't
• 15:05
  feel
• 15:05
  it
• 15:06
  so
• 15:06
  intellectually.
• 15:07
  Growing
• 15:08
  up,
• 15:08
  I
• 15:08
  knew
• 15:08
  I
• 15:08
  was
• 15:08
  loved.
• 15:09
  My
• 15:09
  parents
• 15:09
  were
• 15:10
  very
• 15:10
  good
• 15:10
  to
• 15:10
  me.
• 15:10
  I
• 15:10
  had
• 15:11
  everything
• 15:11
  I
• 15:11
  wanted,
• 15:12
  and
• 15:12
  they
• 15:13
  support
• 15:14
  immensely.
• 15:14
  But
• 15:15
  there
• 15:15
  was
• 15:15
  no
• 15:16
  emotional
• 15:16
  infrastructure.
• 15:17
  So
• 15:18
  if
• 15:18
  I
• 15:18
  had
• 15:18
  a
• 15:18
  problem,
• 15:18
  I
• 15:19
  had
• 15:19
  no
• 15:19
  one
• 15:19
  to
• 15:19
  talk
• 15:19
  to.
• 15:20
  And
• 15:20
  the
• 15:20
  way
• 15:21
  we
• 15:21
  interacted
• 15:22
  with
• 15:22
  each
• 15:22
  other
• 15:22
  was
• 15:23
  barbs.
• 15:23
  Chris.
• 15:24
  Everybody
• 15:24
  was
• 15:24
  really
• 15:25
  witty,
• 15:25
  and
• 15:26
  you
• 15:26
  better
• 15:26
  be
• 15:26
  on
• 15:27
  your
• 15:27
  feet.
• 15:27
  Cause
• 15:28
  if
• 15:28
  you
• 15:28
  were,
• 15:28
  if
• 15:29
  it
• 15:29
  was
• 15:29
  your
• 15:29
  turn
• 15:30
  to
• 15:30
  get
• 15:30
  taken
• 15:30
  down,
• 15:31
  you
• 15:31
  know,
• 15:31
  hey,
• 15:32
  hey,
• 15:32
  you
• 15:33
  got,
• 15:33
  you
• 15:33
  gained
• 15:33
  weight.
• 15:34
  Hey.
• 15:34
  You
• 15:34
  know,
• 15:35
  my
• 15:35
  father
• 15:35
  would
• 15:35
  look
• 15:36
  at
• 15:36
  my
• 15:36
  brother
• 15:36
  and
• 15:36
  say,
• 15:37
  what
• 15:37
  are
• 15:37
  you,
• 15:37
  girl?
• 15:37
  Now
• 15:38
  cut
• 15:38
  the
• 15:38
  hair.
• 15:38
  Cut
• 15:39
  your
• 15:39
  hair.
• 15:39
  You
• 15:39
  know,
• 15:40
  it
• 15:40
  was
• 15:40
  just.
• 15:40
  It
• 15:40
  was
• 15:41
  ruthless.
• 15:41
  A
• 15:42
  tough
• 15:42
  Jersey
• 15:42
  upbringing.
• 15:43
  It
• 15:43
  was
• 15:43
  a
• 15:43
  very
• 15:43
  tough
• 15:44
  Jersey.
• 15:45
  But
• 15:45
  educated,
• 15:45
  you
• 15:46
  know,
• 15:46
  my
• 15:46
  parents
• 15:46
  were
• 15:47
  educated
• 15:47
  and
• 15:48
  they
• 15:48
  had
• 15:48
  money.
• 15:49
  We
• 15:49
  didn't
• 15:49
  have
• 15:49
  a
• 15:49
  lot
• 15:50
  of
• 15:50
  money,
• 15:50
  but
• 15:51
  we
• 15:51
  certainly
• 15:51
  had
• 15:51
  money
• 15:52
  growing
• 15:52
  up.
• 15:52
  And
• 15:53
  my
• 15:53
  parents
• 15:53
  were
• 15:54
  like
• 15:54
  intellectual,
• 15:56
  atheistic
• 15:57
  alcoholics.
• 15:58
  Interesting.
• 15:59
  But
• 15:59
  your
• 15:59
  show
• 16:00
  does
• 16:00
  say
• 16:00
  there
• 16:01
  is
• 16:01
  heart.
• 16:01
  You
• 16:01
  squared
• 16:02
  it
• 16:02
  up
• 16:02
  with
• 16:02
  your
• 16:02
  mom.
• 16:02
  You
• 16:03
  weren't
• 16:03
  raised
• 16:03
  by
• 16:03
  monsters.
• 16:04
  No,
• 16:04
  I
• 16:04
  squared
• 16:05
  up
• 16:05
  with
• 16:05
  both
• 16:05
  of
• 16:06
  them,
• 16:06
  actually.
• 16:06
  Yeah.
• 16:07
  Eventually
• 16:08
  you
• 16:08
  come
• 16:08
  out
• 16:08
  to
• 16:08
  Los
• 16:09
  Angeles
• 16:09
  to
• 16:10
  seek
• 16:10
  fame
• 16:10
  and
• 16:10
  fortune.
• 16:11
  Yeah.
• 16:12
  And
• 16:12
  you
• 16:12
  end
• 16:12
  up
• 16:13
  writing
• 16:13
  for
• 16:13
  Roseanne.
• 16:14
  Right.
• 16:15
  How
• 16:15
  did
• 16:15
  that
• 16:15
  happen?
• 16:16
  Wow,
• 16:16
  that's
• 16:17
  pretty
• 16:17
  cool.
• 16:17
  Well,
• 16:17
  when
• 16:18
  I
• 16:18
  sobered
• 16:18
  up
• 16:18
  in
• 16:19
  New
• 16:19
  York,
• 16:19
  I
• 16:19
  had
• 16:19
  all
• 16:20
  this
• 16:20
  energy.
• 16:20
  I
• 16:21
  mean,
• 16:21
  I
• 16:21
  was
• 16:21
  drinking
• 16:21
  hard
• 16:22
  for
• 16:22
  20
• 16:22
  years,
• 16:23
  so
• 16:23
  I'm
• 16:23
  already
• 16:23
  like
• 16:24
  35
• 16:24
  at
• 16:24
  this
• 16:25
  point
• 16:25
  when
• 16:25
  I
• 16:25
  sober
• 16:25
  up.
• 16:26
  And
• 16:27
  when
• 16:27
  you
• 16:28
  take
• 16:28
  the
• 16:28
  alcohol
• 16:28
  away,
• 16:29
  you
• 16:29
  have
• 16:29
  a
• 16:30
  lot
• 16:30
  of
• 16:30
  angst
• 16:30
  left.
• 16:31
  You
• 16:31
  don't
• 16:32
  know
• 16:32
  what
• 16:32
  to
• 16:32
  do
• 16:32
  with
• 16:32
  your
• 16:33
  hands.
• 16:33
  You
• 16:33
  don't
• 16:34
  know
• 16:34
  what
• 16:34
  to
• 16:34
  do
• 16:34
  with
• 16:34
  your
• 16:34
  thoughts.
• 16:36
  Just
• 16:36
  cause
• 16:36
  you
• 16:36
  take
• 16:36
  the
• 16:37
  alcohol
• 16:37
  away
• 16:37
  doesn't
• 16:38
  mean
• 16:38
  you
• 16:38
  take
• 16:38
  the
• 16:38
  alcoholism
• 16:39
  away.
• 16:39
  And
• 16:40
  you
• 16:40
  were
• 16:40
  able
• 16:40
  to
• 16:40
  stop
• 16:40
  because
• 16:41
  of
• 16:42
  friend
• 16:42
  support,
• 16:42
  Right?
• 16:43
  I
• 16:43
  went
• 16:43
  to
• 16:43
  a
• 16:43
  support
• 16:44
  group.
• 16:44
  You
• 16:44
  went
• 16:44
  to
• 16:44
  a
• 16:44
  support
• 16:45
  group
• 16:45
  in
• 16:45
  Manhattan?
• 16:46
  Yes.
• 16:46
  You
• 16:47
  didn't
• 16:47
  have
• 16:47
  an
• 16:47
  intervention?
• 16:48
  No.
• 16:49
  Nobody
• 16:49
  cared
• 16:50
  enough
• 16:50
  to
• 16:50
  intervene.
• 16:51
  In
• 16:52
  fact,
• 16:52
  we
• 16:53
  intervened.
• 16:53
  My
• 16:54
  brother.
• 16:54
  We
• 16:55
  did
• 16:55
  an
• 16:55
  intervention
• 16:55
  on
• 16:56
  my
• 16:56
  brother.
• 16:56
  My
• 16:56
  whole
• 16:57
  family
• 16:57
  did.
• 16:57
  And
• 16:58
  we
• 16:58
  did
• 16:58
  it
• 16:58
  drunk.
• 16:58
  We're
• 16:59
  all
• 16:59
  like,
• 16:59
  you
• 16:59
  can't
• 16:59
  drink
• 17:00
  anymore.
• 17:01
  The
• 17:01
  whole
• 17:01
  family
• 17:01
  had
• 17:02
  a
• 17:02
  drink
• 17:02
  in
• 17:02
  their
• 17:02
  hand
• 17:03
  because
• 17:03
  he
• 17:03
  was
• 17:04
  bottoming
• 17:04
  out
• 17:04
  faster
• 17:05
  than
• 17:05
  the
• 17:05
  rest
• 17:05
  of
• 17:05
  us.
• 17:06
  And
• 17:06
  then
• 17:06
  he
• 17:06
  kind
• 17:06
  of
• 17:07
  turned
• 17:07
  around.
• 17:07
  He
• 17:07
  didn't
• 17:08
  intervene,
• 17:08
  but
• 17:08
  he
• 17:08
  was
• 17:09
  a
• 17:09
  power
• 17:09
  of
• 17:09
  example
• 17:10
  for
• 17:10
  me.
• 17:11
  You
• 17:11
  were
• 17:11
  talking
• 17:11
  about
• 17:11
  the
• 17:11
  New
• 17:12
  York
• 17:12
  scene
• 17:12
  in
• 17:12
  the
• 17:12
  70s
• 17:13
  and
• 17:13
  80s,
• 17:13
  which
• 17:13
  was
• 17:14
  wild.
• 17:15
  Going
• 17:15
  down
• 17:15
  to
• 17:15
  clubs
• 17:16
  three,
• 17:16
  four
• 17:16
  nights
• 17:16
  a
• 17:16
  week,
• 17:17
  dancing.
• 17:17
  And
• 17:18
  it
• 17:18
  was
• 17:18
  just
• 17:18
  wonderful.
• 17:20
  There
• 17:20
  was
• 17:20
  a
• 17:20
  lot
• 17:21
  of
• 17:21
  drinking,
• 17:21
  there
• 17:21
  was
• 17:21
  a
• 17:22
  lot
• 17:22
  of
• 17:22
  drugging.
• 17:23
  Then
• 17:23
  it
• 17:23
  went
• 17:23
  away.
• 17:24
  And
• 17:25
  I
• 17:25
  missed
• 17:26
  that
• 17:26
  crowd.
• 17:26
  Like
• 17:27
  what
• 17:27
  happened
• 17:27
  to
• 17:27
  all
• 17:27
  these
• 17:27
  people?
• 17:28
  And
• 17:28
  a
• 17:29
  dear
• 17:29
  friend
• 17:29
  of
• 17:29
  mine
• 17:30
  got
• 17:30
  sober
• 17:30
  and
• 17:31
  she
• 17:31
  took
• 17:31
  me
• 17:31
  to
• 17:32
  a
• 17:32
  church
• 17:32
  on
• 17:32
  Houston
• 17:33
  street
• 17:33
  in
• 17:33
  the
• 17:34
  middle
• 17:34
  of
• 17:34
  the
• 17:34
  afternoon.
• 17:34
  And
• 17:34
  we
• 17:35
  walked
• 17:35
  into
• 17:35
  the
• 17:35
  basement
• 17:35
  and
• 17:36
  it
• 17:36
  was
• 17:36
  like
• 17:36
  almost
• 17:36
  a
• 17:36
  football
• 17:37
  sized
• 17:37
  field,
• 17:38
  like
• 17:39
  downstairs
• 17:40
  room
• 17:40
  to
• 17:41
  this
• 17:41
  church.
• 17:42
  And
• 17:42
  there
• 17:42
  was
• 17:42
  the
• 17:43
  crowd.
• 17:43
  There
• 17:43
  were
• 17:43
  hundreds
• 17:44
  of
• 17:45
  people
• 17:45
  who
• 17:45
  used
• 17:46
  to
• 17:46
  be
• 17:46
  in
• 17:46
  the
• 17:46
  clubs
• 17:47
  with
• 17:47
  that
• 17:47
  music
• 17:48
  blaring,
• 17:49
  but
• 17:49
  they
• 17:49
  were
• 17:49
  all
• 17:50
  sober
• 17:50
  and
• 17:51
  they
• 17:51
  all
• 17:51
  Had
• 17:51
  Tupperware.
• 17:52
  They
• 17:52
  brought
• 17:52
  food.
• 17:53
  I
• 17:53
  went
• 17:53
  out
• 17:53
  onto
• 17:54
  the
• 17:54
  floor
• 17:54
  and
• 17:54
  danced
• 17:54
  a
• 17:54
  little
• 17:55
  bit
• 17:55
  and
• 17:55
  found
• 17:56
  myself
• 17:56
  in
• 17:56
  front
• 17:56
  of
• 17:56
  a
• 17:56
  woman
• 17:57
  who
• 17:57
  I
• 17:57
  knew,
• 17:57
  who
• 17:57
  did
• 17:57
  not
• 17:58
  want
• 17:58
  anybody
• 17:58
  to
• 17:58
  know
• 17:58
  that
• 17:59
  she
• 17:59
  was
• 17:59
  an
• 17:59
  alcoholic.
• 17:59
  And
• 18:00
  she
• 18:00
  says,
• 18:00
  what
• 18:00
  are
• 18:00
  you
• 18:00
  doing
• 18:01
  here?
• 18:02
  And
• 18:02
  I
• 18:02
  left.
• 18:03
  Yeah.
• 18:03
  But
• 18:04
  it
• 18:04
  was
• 18:04
  very
• 18:04
  interesting
• 18:05
  to
• 18:05
  see
• 18:06
  where
• 18:06
  that
• 18:06
  scene
• 18:07
  in
• 18:07
  New
• 18:07
  York
• 18:07
  went.
• 18:09
  It
• 18:09
  was
• 18:09
  good
• 18:09
  to
• 18:09
  see
• 18:10
  all
• 18:10
  those
• 18:10
  people
• 18:10
  sober
• 18:11
  and
• 18:12
  surviving.
• 18:13
  There's
• 18:13
  a
• 18:13
  whole
• 18:14
  society
• 18:14
  of
• 18:14
  sober
• 18:15
  people,
• 18:15
  very
• 18:16
  large
• 18:16
  one,
• 18:16
  as
• 18:16
  a
• 18:17
  matter
• 18:17
  of
• 18:17
  fact,
• 18:18
  just
• 18:18
  sober
• 18:18
  drunks,
• 18:19
  you
• 18:19
  know.
• 18:20
  So
• 18:20
  I'm
• 18:21
  doing
• 18:21
  comedy.
• 18:21
  I've
• 18:22
  started
• 18:22
  writing.
• 18:22
  Cause
• 18:23
  I
• 18:23
  can't
• 18:23
  do
• 18:23
  Jerry
• 18:24
  Seinfeld's
• 18:24
  act
• 18:25
  anymore.
• 18:25
  Nor
• 18:25
  did
• 18:26
  it
• 18:26
  really
• 18:26
  work
• 18:26
  for
• 18:26
  me.
• 18:27
  Hey,
• 18:27
  where's
• 18:28
  the
• 18:28
  partner
• 18:28
  of
• 18:29
  this
• 18:29
  sock?
• 18:30
  It
• 18:30
  just
• 18:30
  didn't
• 18:30
  work
• 18:30
  for
• 18:31
  me.
• 18:31
  Anyway,
• 18:33
  I
• 18:33
  got
• 18:33
  one.
• 18:33
  So
• 18:34
  I
• 18:34
  started
• 18:35
  writing.
• 18:35
  And
• 18:35
  it
• 18:36
  turned
• 18:36
  out,
• 18:36
  unbeknownst
• 18:37
  to
• 18:37
  me,
• 18:38
  that
• 18:38
  I
• 18:38
  was
• 18:38
  at
• 18:38
  my
• 18:39
  heart
• 18:39
  a
• 18:39
  writer
• 18:40
  I
• 18:40
  didn't
• 18:40
  know
• 18:41
  because
• 18:41
  I
• 18:41
  had
• 18:41
  been.
• 18:42
  Once
• 18:42
  you
• 18:43
  got
• 18:43
  clarity.
• 18:43
  Once
• 18:43
  I
• 18:44
  had
• 18:44
  clarity,
• 18:44
  but
• 18:45
  I
• 18:45
  had
• 18:45
  insane
• 18:45
  clarity.
• 18:46
  And
• 18:46
  I
• 18:46
  literally
• 18:47
  started
• 18:47
  writing
• 18:48
  hours
• 18:48
  and
• 18:48
  hours
• 18:49
  every
• 18:49
  night.
• 18:50
  Every
• 18:50
  night
• 18:50
  I
• 18:50
  would
• 18:50
  write
• 18:51
  and
• 18:51
  write
• 18:51
  and
• 18:51
  write.
• 18:51
  And
• 18:52
  I
• 18:52
  wrote.
• 18:52
  I
• 18:53
  started
• 18:53
  writing
• 18:53
  sitcom
• 18:54
  spec
• 18:54
  scripts,
• 18:55
  which
• 18:55
  is
• 18:55
  what
• 18:55
  you
• 18:55
  need
• 18:56
  to
• 18:56
  get
• 18:56
  on
• 18:56
  a
• 18:56
  sitcom
• 18:57
  staff.
• 18:58
  And
• 18:58
  I
• 18:58
  wrote
• 18:58
  a
• 18:58
  one
• 18:59
  woman
• 18:59
  show.
• 18:59
  And
• 19:00
  I
• 19:00
  did
• 19:00
  my
• 19:00
  show
• 19:00
  and
• 19:01
  it
• 19:01
  got
• 19:01
  good
• 19:01
  reviews.
• 19:02
  And
• 19:02
  I
• 19:02
  moved
• 19:02
  out
• 19:03
  to
• 19:03
  LA
• 19:04
  to
• 19:04
  get
• 19:04
  my
• 19:04
  own
• 19:05
  sitcom.
• 19:05
  Got
• 19:06
  my
• 19:06
  big
• 19:06
  plans,
• 19:07
  you
• 19:07
  know,
• 19:08
  and
• 19:08
  I
• 19:08
  put
• 19:09
  my
• 19:09
  show
• 19:09
  up
• 19:09
  out
• 19:10
  here
• 19:10
  in
• 19:10
  Los
• 19:11
  Angeles.
• 19:12
  And
• 19:12
  at
• 19:13
  the
• 19:13
  time,
• 19:13
  there
• 19:14
  was
• 19:14
  very
• 19:14
  few
• 19:15
  women
• 19:15
  writing
• 19:16
  for
• 19:17
  sitcoms.
• 19:18
  Roseanne
• 19:18
  was
• 19:18
  already
• 19:19
  on
• 19:19
  the
• 19:19
  air
• 19:20
  and
• 19:20
  no
• 19:20
  one
• 19:20
  else
• 19:21
  that
• 19:22
  had
• 19:22
  artistic
• 19:23
  control.
• 19:23
  I
• 19:24
  mean,
• 19:24
  you
• 19:24
  know,
• 19:24
  Sybil
• 19:25
  had
• 19:25
  a
• 19:25
  show
• 19:25
  and
• 19:26
  Grace,
• 19:27
  Brett
• 19:27
  Butler
• 19:27
  had
• 19:28
  a
• 19:28
  show,
• 19:28
  but
• 19:28
  they
• 19:28
  didn't
• 19:29
  have
• 19:29
  control.
• 19:29
  Roseanne
• 19:30
  had
• 19:30
  creative
• 19:31
  control
• 19:33
  pretty
• 19:33
  early
• 19:33
  on.
• 19:34
  But
• 19:34
  anyway,
• 19:35
  they
• 19:35
  were
• 19:35
  looking
• 19:35
  for
• 19:36
  women.
• 19:37
  It
• 19:38
  was
• 19:38
  the
• 19:38
  first
• 19:38
  time
• 19:38
  in
• 19:39
  my
• 19:39
  life,
• 19:40
  the
• 19:40
  right
• 19:40
  time,
• 19:40
  the
• 19:41
  right
• 19:41
  place.
• 19:42
  And
• 19:42
  all
• 19:42
  these
• 19:43
  industry
• 19:43
  people
• 19:44
  just
• 19:44
  start
• 19:45
  coming
• 19:45
  out
• 19:45
  to
• 19:45
  see
• 19:45
  my
• 19:46
  show
• 19:46
  because
• 19:46
  I
• 19:46
  had
• 19:47
  good
• 19:47
  reviews
• 19:48
  and
• 19:48
  I
• 19:48
  won
• 19:48
  an
• 19:48
  award
• 19:49
  and
• 19:50
  I
• 19:50
  was
• 19:50
  getting
• 19:51
  really
• 19:51
  great
• 19:51
  reviews
• 19:52
  and
• 19:52
  they
• 19:52
  were
• 19:53
  all
• 19:53
  coming
• 19:53
  out.
• 19:54
  And
• 19:54
  I
• 19:54
  had
• 19:54
  an
• 19:54
  agent
• 19:55
  call
• 19:55
  me.
• 19:55
  I
• 19:55
  mean,
• 19:56
  I
• 19:56
  was
• 19:56
  only
• 19:56
  in
• 19:57
  LA
• 19:57
  for
• 19:57
  like
• 19:57
  two
• 19:58
  months.
• 19:58
  And
• 19:59
  she
• 19:59
  called
• 19:59
  me
• 19:59
  up
• 20:00
  and
• 20:00
  she
• 20:00
  goes,
• 20:01
  hi,
• 20:01
  I'm
• 20:02
  with.
• 20:03
  I
• 20:03
  forget
• 20:03
  the
• 20:03
  agency.
• 20:04
  And
• 20:05
  she
• 20:05
  goes,
• 20:05
  I'm
• 20:05
  an
• 20:05
  agent.
• 20:05
  I'm
• 20:06
  a
• 20:06
  writing
• 20:06
  agent.
• 20:06
  Do
• 20:06
  you
• 20:06
  want
• 20:07
  to
• 20:07
  write
• 20:07
  for.
• 20:07
  Do
• 20:07
  you
• 20:07
  happen
• 20:08
  to
• 20:08
  have
• 20:08
  a
• 20:08
  spec
• 20:08
  script?
• 20:09
  And
• 20:09
  I
• 20:09
  said,
• 20:10
  do
• 20:10
  I
• 20:11
  hair
• 20:11
  lip?
• 20:12
  You
• 20:12
  know,
• 20:12
  of
• 20:13
  course
• 20:13
  I
• 20:13
  have
• 20:13
  a
• 20:13
  spec
• 20:14
  script.
• 20:14
  And
• 20:15
  I
• 20:15
  sent
• 20:16
  it
• 20:16
  to
• 20:16
  her
• 20:16
  and
• 20:17
  she
• 20:17
  said,
• 20:17
  and
• 20:17
  it
• 20:17
  was
• 20:18
  of
• 20:18
  course
• 20:18
  a
• 20:18
  Seinfeld
• 20:19
  spec
• 20:19
  script.
• 20:20
  And
• 20:20
  she.
• 20:20
  Because
• 20:21
  he
• 20:21
  was
• 20:21
  our
• 20:21
  big.
• 20:22
  He
• 20:22
  was
• 20:22
  our
• 20:22
  big
• 20:22
  role
• 20:23
  model.
• 20:23
  Because
• 20:23
  he
• 20:24
  was
• 20:24
  the
• 20:24
  first
• 20:24
  one
• 20:24
  to
• 20:24
  get
• 20:25
  his
• 20:25
  own
• 20:25
  show,
• 20:26
  and
• 20:27
  he
• 20:27
  was
• 20:27
  the
• 20:27
  best
• 20:28
  comic
• 20:28
  around,
• 20:28
  and
• 20:29
  he
• 20:29
  was
• 20:29
  exemplary,
• 20:30
  and
• 20:30
  he
• 20:30
  wrote
• 20:31
  eight
• 20:31
  hours
• 20:31
  a
• 20:31
  day
• 20:31
  and
• 20:32
  he
• 20:32
  talked
• 20:32
  about
• 20:32
  it.
• 20:33
  So
• 20:34
  she
• 20:34
  takes
• 20:35
  me
• 20:35
  on
• 20:35
  immediately.
• 20:37
  And
• 20:38
  she
• 20:38
  called
• 20:39
  me
• 20:39
  up
• 20:39
  like
• 20:39
  God,
• 20:40
  a
• 20:40
  month
• 20:40
  later,
• 20:40
  and
• 20:41
  she
• 20:41
  goes,
• 20:41
  you
• 20:41
  have
• 20:41
  an
• 20:41
  interview
• 20:42
  the
• 20:42
  day
• 20:42
  my
• 20:43
  mother
• 20:43
  died.
• 20:45
  Oh,
• 20:45
  my
• 20:45
  God.
• 20:46
  I
• 20:46
  get
• 20:46
  a
• 20:46
  call
• 20:46
  from
• 20:46
  her.
• 20:47
  My
• 20:47
  mother's
• 20:47
  dying
• 20:48
  of
• 20:48
  lung
• 20:48
  cancer
• 20:48
  back
• 20:49
  in
• 20:49
  New
• 20:49
  Jersey.
• 20:50
  She
• 20:50
  lets
• 20:50
  me
• 20:50
  move
• 20:51
  to
• 20:51
  LA
• 20:51
  knowing
• 20:52
  she's
• 20:52
  dying
• 20:52
  because
• 20:53
  she
• 20:53
  didn't
• 20:53
  want
• 20:53
  to
• 20:53
  hold
• 20:54
  my
• 20:54
  plans
• 20:54
  up
• 20:54
  any.
• 20:55
  Yeah,
• 20:56
  she
• 20:56
  wasn't
• 20:56
  a
• 20:56
  monster
• 20:57
  at
• 20:57
  all.
• 20:58
  And
• 20:59
  my
• 20:59
  agent
• 21:00
  called
• 21:00
  me
• 21:00
  up
• 21:00
  on
• 21:01
  a
• 21:01
  Monday
• 21:01
  morning.
• 21:01
  She
• 21:02
  goes,
• 21:02
  you
• 21:02
  have
• 21:02
  an
• 21:02
  interview
• 21:03
  with
• 21:03
  Roseanne
• 21:04
  tomorrow
• 21:04
  with
• 21:05
  Dan,
• 21:05
  who
• 21:06
  runs
• 21:06
  Roseanne.
• 21:07
  I
• 21:07
  said,
• 21:07
  well,
• 21:07
  I
• 21:07
  have
• 21:07
  to
• 21:07
  fly
• 21:08
  home
• 21:08
  tomorrow
• 21:08
  and
• 21:08
  bury
• 21:09
  my
• 21:09
  mother.
• 21:09
  She
• 21:09
  goes,
• 21:09
  oh,
• 21:10
  my
• 21:10
  God,
• 21:10
  I'm
• 21:10
  so
• 21:10
  sorry.
• 21:11
  We'll
• 21:12
  reschedule
• 21:12
  your
• 21:13
  thing.
• 21:13
  And
• 21:13
  I
• 21:13
  said,
• 21:13
  no,
• 21:14
  no,
• 21:14
  don't.
• 21:15
  No,
• 21:15
  I
• 21:16
  don't
• 21:16
  want
• 21:16
  to
• 21:16
  write
• 21:16
  for
• 21:16
  Roseanne.
• 21:17
  Let
• 21:17
  me
• 21:17
  go.
• 21:17
  It'll
• 21:18
  be
• 21:18
  a
• 21:18
  good
• 21:18
  experience.
• 21:19
  She
• 21:19
  goes,
• 21:20
  what
• 21:20
  do
• 21:20
  you
• 21:20
  mean
• 21:20
  you
• 21:20
  don't
• 21:20
  want
• 21:20
  to
• 21:20
  write
• 21:21
  for
• 21:21
  Roseanne?
• 21:21
  I
• 21:21
  said,
• 21:21
  I
• 21:22
  want
• 21:22
  to
• 21:22
  write
• 21:22
  for
• 21:22
  Roseanne.
• 21:23
  I
• 21:23
  heard
• 21:23
  she's
• 21:24
  nuts.
• 21:24
  And
• 21:24
  he
• 21:25
  goes,
• 21:25
  she
• 21:25
  said,
• 21:26
  yeah,
• 21:26
  but
• 21:26
  it's
• 21:27
  Roseanne.
• 21:27
  Yeah,
• 21:28
  but
• 21:28
  it's
• 21:29
  the
• 21:29
  number
• 21:29
  one
• 21:30
  show
• 21:30
  in
• 21:30
  America.
• 21:31
  Debbie,
• 21:31
  maybe
• 21:32
  you
• 21:32
  and
• 21:32
  I
• 21:32
  need
• 21:32
  to
• 21:33
  have
• 21:33
  a
• 21:33
  talk.
• 21:34
  And
• 21:34
  I'm
• 21:34
  like,
• 21:34
  maybe
• 21:35
  you
• 21:35
  and
• 21:35
  I
• 21:35
  need
• 21:36
  to
• 21:36
  have
• 21:36
  a
• 21:36
  talk
• 21:36
  because
• 21:37
  I'm
• 21:37
  not
• 21:37
  writing
• 21:38
  first.
• 21:38
  She
• 21:38
  goes,
• 21:38
  all
• 21:38
  right.
• 21:39
  So
• 21:39
  I
• 21:39
  insist
• 21:40
  on
• 21:40
  the
• 21:40
  interview,
• 21:41
  even
• 21:41
  though
• 21:41
  my
• 21:41
  mother
• 21:42
  died
• 21:42
  the
• 21:43
  day
• 21:43
  before.
• 21:44
  But
• 21:44
  I
• 21:45
  walked
• 21:45
  in
• 21:46
  not
• 21:47
  caring,
• 21:47
  not
• 21:48
  wanting
• 21:48
  the
• 21:48
  job.
• 21:48
  I
• 21:49
  walked
• 21:49
  in
• 21:49
  with
• 21:49
  such
• 21:49
  an
• 21:50
  attitude,
• 21:51
  and
• 21:51
  I
• 21:52
  sat
• 21:52
  down
• 21:52
  and
• 21:52
  I
• 21:53
  took
• 21:53
  over
• 21:53
  the
• 21:55
  interview
• 21:55
  and
• 21:56
  I
• 21:56
  said
• 21:56
  to
• 21:56
  the
• 21:56
  head
• 21:57
  writer,
• 21:58
  tell
• 21:58
  me
• 21:58
  why
• 21:58
  I
• 21:59
  would
• 21:59
  want
• 21:59
  to
• 21:59
  write
• 21:59
  for
• 22:00
  Roseanne.
• 22:00
  And
• 22:00
  he
• 22:01
  went,
• 22:01
  excuse
• 22:01
  me.
• 22:03
  Because
• 22:03
  they're
• 22:03
  supposed
• 22:03
  to
• 22:04
  say,
• 22:04
  tell
• 22:04
  me
• 22:05
  why
• 22:05
  we
• 22:05
  should
• 22:06
  hire
• 22:06
  you.
• 22:06
  You
• 22:07
  know,
• 22:07
  And
• 22:08
  I
• 22:08
  sit
• 22:08
  there
• 22:08
  and
• 22:08
  I
• 22:09
  go,
• 22:09
  why
• 22:09
  would
• 22:09
  I
• 22:09
  possibly
• 22:10
  want
• 22:10
  to
• 22:10
  write
• 22:10
  for
• 22:11
  Roseanne?
• 22:11
  I
• 22:11
  hear
• 22:11
  the
• 22:12
  worst
• 22:12
  things.
• 22:13
  And
• 22:13
  the
• 22:13
  entire
• 22:14
  interview
• 22:14
  was
• 22:15
  him
• 22:15
  playing
• 22:15
  offense.
• 22:16
  Not
• 22:16
  intentionally.
• 22:17
  I
• 22:17
  didn't
• 22:17
  know
• 22:18
  anything.
• 22:19
  You
• 22:19
  know,
• 22:19
  I
• 22:19
  wasn't
• 22:20
  a
• 22:20
  kid,
• 22:20
  but
• 22:20
  I
• 22:21
  knew
• 22:21
  nothing
• 22:21
  about
• 22:21
  what
• 22:21
  I
• 22:22
  was
• 22:22
  doing.
• 22:22
  Well,
• 22:22
  I
• 22:23
  walked
• 22:23
  out
• 22:23
  the
• 22:23
  door,
• 22:23
  and
• 22:24
  he's
• 22:24
  already
• 22:24
  hiring
• 22:24
  me.
• 22:25
  He
• 22:25
  calls
• 22:25
  my
• 22:25
  agent,
• 22:25
  says
• 22:26
  she's
• 22:26
  h.
• 22:27
  Just
• 22:27
  cause
• 22:28
  he
• 22:28
  knew
• 22:28
  I
• 22:28
  didn't
• 22:29
  want
• 22:29
  the
• 22:29
  job,
• 22:30
  so
• 22:31
  he
• 22:31
  hired
• 22:31
  me.
• 22:31
  Isn't
• 22:31
  it
• 22:31
  interesting?
• 22:32
  It's
• 22:32
  the
• 22:32
  ones
• 22:33
  you
• 22:33
  don't
• 22:33
  want.
• 22:33
  Those
• 22:34
  are
• 22:34
  the
• 22:34
  ones
• 22:34
  that
• 22:34
  come
• 22:34
  through.
• 22:34
  We're
• 22:35
  talking
• 22:35
  to
• 22:35
  Debbie
• 22:35
  Casper,
• 22:36
  standup
• 22:36
  comedian
• 22:37
  and
• 22:37
  comedy
• 22:38
  writer
• 22:38
  who's
• 22:38
  doing
• 22:39
  a
• 22:39
  show
• 22:39
  right
• 22:39
  now
• 22:39
  at
• 22:40
  the
• 22:40
  Odyssey
• 22:40
  theater
• 22:41
  in
• 22:41
  West
• 22:41
  Los
• 22:41
  Angeles
• 22:42
  called
• 22:42
  Monkeys
• 22:42
  on
• 22:42
  my
• 22:43
  back
• 22:43
  and
• 22:43
  everywhere
• 22:44
  else.
• 22:44
  Basically
• 22:45
  the
• 22:45
  story
• 22:45
  of
• 22:46
  your
• 22:46
  very
• 22:46
  interesting
• 22:47
  and
• 22:47
  funny
• 22:47
  life
• 22:48
  working
• 22:49
  for
• 22:49
  Roseanne.
• 22:49
  Was
• 22:50
  it
• 22:50
  just
• 22:50
  as
• 22:50
  joyful
• 22:51
  as
• 22:51
  you
• 22:51
  thought
• 22:51
  it
• 22:51
  would
• 22:51
  be?
• 22:52
  It
• 22:52
  was
• 22:52
  joyful,
• 22:53
  just
• 22:53
  as
• 22:54
  horrific.
• 22:56
  I
• 22:56
  have
• 22:56
  a
• 22:56
  friend
• 22:57
  that
• 22:57
  when
• 22:57
  I
• 22:57
  bump
• 22:57
  into
• 22:58
  him,
• 22:58
  we
• 22:58
  wrote
• 22:58
  on
• 22:58
  the
• 22:58
  show
• 22:59
  together.
• 22:59
  And
• 22:59
  to
• 22:59
  this
• 23:00
  day,
• 23:00
  if
• 23:00
  you
• 23:00
  bump
• 23:01
  into
• 23:01
  him,
• 23:02
  he
• 23:02
  kind
• 23:02
  of
• 23:03
  shields
• 23:03
  his
• 23:03
  eyes
• 23:04
  and
• 23:04
  say,
• 23:04
  I'm
• 23:05
  not
• 23:05
  ready
• 23:05
  to
• 23:05
  talk
• 23:05
  about
• 23:06
  it.
• 23:06
  It's
• 23:06
  like
• 23:06
  Vietnam.
• 23:07
  I'm
• 23:07
  still
• 23:07
  not
• 23:07
  ready
• 23:08
  to
• 23:08
  talk
• 23:08
  about
• 23:09
  it.
• 23:10
  We
• 23:10
  worked
• 23:10
  18
• 23:11
  hour
• 23:11
  days.
• 23:12
  You
• 23:12
  know,
• 23:12
  the
• 23:12
  Seinfeld
• 23:13
  people
• 23:13
  were
• 23:14
  on
• 23:14
  the
• 23:14
  same
• 23:14
  set.
• 23:14
  It
• 23:15
  was
• 23:15
  the
• 23:15
  Carsey
• 23:15
  Warner
• 23:16
  lot,
• 23:17
  and
• 23:17
  all
• 23:17
  the
• 23:17
  Carsey
• 23:18
  Warner
• 23:18
  shows
• 23:18
  were
• 23:18
  there,
• 23:18
  plus
• 23:19
  Seinfeld.
• 23:19
  So
• 23:19
  it
• 23:20
  was
• 23:20
  grace
• 23:20
  under
• 23:20
  fire,
• 23:21
  Ferguson
• 23:22
  rock,
• 23:22
  you
• 23:22
  know,
• 23:22
  they
• 23:22
  were
• 23:22
  all
• 23:23
  there.
• 23:23
  Roseanne
• 23:24
  Seinfeld
• 23:25
  and
• 23:25
  all
• 23:25
  these
• 23:25
  other
• 23:26
  writers
• 23:26
  were
• 23:26
  going
• 23:26
  home
• 23:27
  at
• 23:27
  5:00
• 23:27
  at
• 23:28
  night,
• 23:28
  and
• 23:28
  at
• 23:28
  5:00
• 23:29
  at
• 23:29
  night,
• 23:30
  they
• 23:30
  were
• 23:30
  ordering
• 23:30
  in
• 23:31
  our
• 23:31
  dinner
• 23:31
  because
• 23:31
  we
• 23:32
  had
• 23:32
  another
• 23:32
  eight
• 23:32
  hour
• 23:33
  shift.
• 23:33
  Because
• 23:33
  we
• 23:33
  would
• 23:34
  finish
• 23:34
  the
• 23:34
  script.
• 23:35
  Oh,
• 23:35
  no,
• 23:36
  trust
• 23:36
  me.
• 23:37
  We
• 23:37
  would
• 23:37
  finish
• 23:38
  the
• 23:38
  script
• 23:38
  all
• 23:39
  week
• 23:39
  long.
• 23:39
  We
• 23:39
  write
• 23:40
  it
• 23:40
  and
• 23:40
  write
• 23:40
  it
• 23:40
  and
• 23:40
  write
• 23:41
  it.
• 23:41
  And
• 23:41
  Roseanne,
• 23:42
  who
• 23:42
  had
• 23:42
  signed
• 23:43
  off
• 23:43
  on
• 23:43
  the
• 23:43
  script
• 23:43
  the
• 23:44
  whole
• 23:44
  time
• 23:44
  because
• 23:45
  she
• 23:45
  had
• 23:45
  control
• 23:46
  at
• 23:46
  this
• 23:46
  point,
• 23:47
  she
• 23:47
  would
• 23:47
  call
• 23:47
  us
• 23:48
  on
• 23:49
  Friday
• 23:49
  night
• 23:49
  at
• 23:50
  7
• 23:50
  o'.
• 23:51
  Clock.
• 23:51
  We're
• 23:51
  all
• 23:51
  waiting
• 23:52
  all
• 23:52
  day
• 23:52
  for
• 23:52
  her,
• 23:53
  and
• 23:53
  we're
• 23:54
  all
• 23:54
  sitting
• 23:54
  around
• 23:54
  the
• 23:54
  table
• 23:55
  wanting
• 23:55
  to
• 23:55
  go
• 23:55
  home.
• 23:56
  We've
• 23:56
  already
• 23:56
  worked
• 23:57
  60
• 23:57
  hours.
• 23:58
  And
• 23:58
  she
• 23:59
  gets
• 23:59
  on
• 23:59
  the
• 24:00
  speakerphone
• 24:01
  in
• 24:01
  the
• 24:02
  middle
• 24:02
  of
• 24:02
  the
• 24:02
  conference
• 24:03
  room
• 24:03
  and
• 24:03
  she
• 24:04
  goes,
• 24:04
  I
• 24:05
  hate
• 24:05
  it,
• 24:06
  snowball.
• 24:09
  And
• 24:09
  we
• 24:10
  would
• 24:10
  trash
• 24:10
  the
• 24:11
  entire
• 24:11
  thing.
• 24:12
  And
• 24:12
  the
• 24:13
  head
• 24:13
  writer
• 24:13
  would
• 24:13
  look
• 24:14
  at
• 24:14
  us
• 24:14
  and
• 24:14
  he
• 24:14
  would
• 24:15
  go,
• 24:15
  all
• 24:15
  right,
• 24:16
  we're
• 24:16
  ordering
• 24:17
  dinner.
• 24:18
  And
• 24:18
  I'm
• 24:18
  new,
• 24:19
  so
• 24:19
  I'm
• 24:19
  like,
• 24:19
  what's
• 24:20
  going
• 24:20
  on?
• 24:20
  They're
• 24:20
  like,
• 24:21
  we're
• 24:21
  gonna
• 24:21
  be
• 24:21
  writing
• 24:21
  all
• 24:22
  weekend.
• 24:22
  Because
• 24:23
  the
• 24:23
  table
• 24:23
  read
• 24:23
  would
• 24:24
  be
• 24:24
  Monday
• 24:24
  morning.
• 24:25
  And
• 24:25
  a
• 24:25
  table
• 24:25
  read
• 24:26
  is,
• 24:26
  you
• 24:26
  know,
• 24:26
  the
• 24:27
  actors
• 24:27
  reading
• 24:27
  the
• 24:27
  script
• 24:28
  for
• 24:28
  the
• 24:28
  first
• 24:28
  time
• 24:28
  and
• 24:29
  then
• 24:29
  they're
• 24:29
  shooting
• 24:29
  it
• 24:29
  that
• 24:30
  week.
• 24:30
  So
• 24:30
  it
• 24:31
  was.
• 24:31
  It
• 24:31
  was
• 24:32
  pretty
• 24:32
  bad.
• 24:32
  And
• 24:32
  the,
• 24:33
  you
• 24:33
  know,
• 24:33
  and
• 24:34
  everybody's
• 24:34
  attitude
• 24:35
  was
• 24:35
  bad
• 24:35
  and
• 24:36
  people.
• 24:36
  And
• 24:37
  then
• 24:37
  the
• 24:37
  head
• 24:37
  writer
• 24:37
  got
• 24:38
  fired
• 24:38
  and
• 24:38
  nobody
• 24:39
  wanted
• 24:39
  to
• 24:39
  take
• 24:40
  over
• 24:40
  the
• 24:40
  show.
• 24:41
  And
• 24:41
  the
• 24:41
  guy
• 24:41
  that
• 24:42
  ended
• 24:42
  up
• 24:42
  taking
• 24:42
  over
• 24:42
  the
• 24:43
  show
• 24:43
  was
• 24:44
  a
• 24:44
  hoodlum.
• 24:45
  He
• 24:45
  had
• 24:45
  guns.
• 24:46
  It
• 24:46
  was
• 24:46
  just
• 24:46
  insane.
• 24:47
  What?
• 24:48
  Yeah,
• 24:49
  there's
• 24:50
  guns
• 24:50
  in
• 24:50
  the
• 24:50
  writer's
• 24:51
  point.
• 24:52
  She
• 24:52
  came
• 24:52
  from
• 24:52
  an
• 24:52
  abusive
• 24:53
  household.
• 24:53
  She
• 24:53
  grew
• 24:54
  up
• 24:54
  in
• 24:54
  Salt
• 24:54
  Lake
• 24:54
  City.
• 24:54
  Yep.
• 24:55
  And
• 24:56
  what
• 24:57
  I'm
• 24:57
  not
• 24:57
  clear
• 24:57
  on
• 24:57
  is
• 24:58
  whether
• 24:58
  or
• 24:58
  not
• 24:58
  she
• 24:58
  threw
• 24:59
  herself
• 24:59
  in
• 24:59
  front
• 24:59
  of
• 24:59
  a
• 25:00
  car
• 25:00
  when
• 25:00
  she
• 25:00
  was
• 25:00
  in
• 25:00
  high
• 25:00
  school
• 25:01
  or
• 25:01
  she
• 25:01
  got
• 25:01
  hit
• 25:01
  by
• 25:02
  a
• 25:02
  car,
• 25:02
  but
• 25:03
  she
• 25:03
  got
• 25:03
  traumatic
• 25:03
  brain
• 25:04
  injury.
• 25:04
  I
• 25:05
  don't
• 25:05
  know.
• 25:05
  That
• 25:05
  and
• 25:06
  multiple
• 25:06
  personality
• 25:06
  disorder.
• 25:08
  And
• 25:08
  these
• 25:08
  were
• 25:09
  fairly
• 25:09
  credible
• 25:09
  sources.
• 25:10
  I
• 25:10
  don't
• 25:10
  know
• 25:10
  firsthand.
• 25:11
  Evidently,
• 25:12
  she
• 25:13
  really
• 25:13
  got
• 25:13
  hurt
• 25:14
  horribly,
• 25:15
  and.
• 25:16
  Now
• 25:16
  I
• 25:16
  feel
• 25:17
  bad.
• 25:17
  Thanks.
• 25:18
  Doesn't
• 25:19
  she
• 25:19
  live
• 25:19
  on
• 25:19
  a
• 25:19
  nut
• 25:20
  farm
• 25:20
  in
• 25:20
  Hawaii?
• 25:22
  I
• 25:22
  know
• 25:23
  she
• 25:23
  owns
• 25:23
  one.
• 25:23
  I
• 25:23
  don't
• 25:24
  know
• 25:24
  if
• 25:24
  she
• 25:24
  lives
• 25:24
  there.
• 25:26
  I'm
• 25:26
  just
• 25:26
  drawing
• 25:27
  a
• 25:27
  little
• 25:27
  parallel.
• 25:28
  Of
• 25:28
  course.
• 25:28
  Johnny
• 25:29
  Goodman.
• 25:29
  Johnny
• 25:30
  Goodman
• 25:30
  was
• 25:30
  our
• 25:31
  guest
• 25:32
  last
• 25:32
  week,
• 25:33
  and
• 25:33
  he
• 25:34
  told
• 25:34
  me
• 25:34
  that.
• 25:34
  That
• 25:35
  after
• 25:35
  doing
• 25:36
  a
• 25:36
  show
• 25:36
  with
• 25:37
  her,
• 25:37
  before
• 25:37
  he
• 25:37
  could
• 25:38
  go
• 25:38
  home,
• 25:38
  he'd
• 25:39
  pull
• 25:39
  into
• 25:39
  a
• 25:39
  parking
• 25:40
  lot
• 25:40
  and
• 25:40
  cry
• 25:41
  for
• 25:41
  10
• 25:42
  minutes.
• 25:43
  It
• 25:43
  was
• 25:43
  so
• 25:44
  hard
• 25:44
  on
• 25:44
  him.
• 25:44
  Wow.
• 25:45
  Wow.
• 25:45
  It
• 25:46
  proves
• 25:46
  what
• 25:46
  a
• 25:46
  great
• 25:46
  actor
• 25:47
  he
• 25:47
  was
• 25:47
  because
• 25:47
  he
• 25:48
  really.
• 25:48
  It
• 25:48
  was
• 25:48
  a
• 25:49
  very,
• 25:49
  very
• 25:49
  toxic
• 25:50
  set.
• 25:51
  You're
• 25:51
  credited
• 25:52
  for
• 25:52
  writing
• 25:52
  Hoi
• 25:52
  Polloi
• 25:53
  meets
• 25:53
  Hoity
• 25:54
  Toity.
• 25:54
  Yeah.
• 25:55
  They
• 25:55
  gave
• 25:55
  you
• 25:55
  random
• 25:56
  credits
• 25:56
  because
• 25:57
  everybody.
• 25:57
  It
• 25:57
  was
• 25:57
  a
• 25:57
  team
• 25:58
  effort.
• 25:58
  Yes.
• 25:58
  We
• 25:59
  gang
• 25:59
  banged
• 25:59
  it
• 25:59
  is
• 25:59
  what
• 26:00
  they
• 26:00
  call.
• 26:00
  We
• 26:00
  all
• 26:00
  wrote
• 26:01
  all
• 26:01
  the
• 26:01
  way.
• 26:02
  And
• 26:02
  then
• 26:03
  they
• 26:03
  would
• 26:03
  assign
• 26:04
  people
• 26:05
  scripts
• 26:06
  just
• 26:06
  so
• 26:06
  you
• 26:06
  would
• 26:06
  get
• 26:07
  that
• 26:07
  money
• 26:07
  and
• 26:07
  that
• 26:07
  credit.
• 26:08
  I
• 26:08
  mean,
• 26:08
  I
• 26:08
  still
• 26:08
  get
• 26:09
  residuals
• 26:09
  from
• 26:10
  that
• 26:10
  show.
• 26:11
  Wow.
• 26:11
  Good
• 26:11
  for
• 26:11
  you.
• 26:12
  Yeah.
• 26:12
  Then
• 26:13
  you
• 26:13
  worked
• 26:13
  for
• 26:14
  Rosie
• 26:14
  o'.
• 26:14
  Donnell.
• 26:15
  Yes.
• 26:16
  And
• 26:16
  that
• 26:16
  was
• 26:16
  a
• 26:16
  better
• 26:16
  experience.
• 26:17
  It
• 26:17
  was
• 26:17
  a
• 26:18
  great
• 26:18
  experience.
• 26:18
  I
• 26:18
  love
• 26:19
  Rosie.
• 26:19
  She
• 26:20
  was,
• 26:20
  you
• 26:20
  know,
• 26:21
  people
• 26:21
  have
• 26:21
  their
• 26:22
  thing
• 26:22
  with
• 26:22
  Rosie.
• 26:23
  You
• 26:23
  know,
• 26:23
  the
• 26:23
  thing
• 26:23
  is
• 26:24
  when
• 26:24
  a
• 26:24
  woman's
• 26:24
  in
• 26:25
  charge,
• 26:25
  and
• 26:25
  I
• 26:26
  don't
• 26:26
  want
• 26:26
  to
• 26:26
  turn
• 26:26
  this
• 26:26
  into
• 26:27
  a
• 26:27
  big
• 26:27
  feminist
• 26:28
  soapbox,
• 26:29
  but
• 26:29
  the
• 26:29
  truth
• 26:29
  is,
• 26:30
  maybe
• 26:31
  not
• 26:31
  anymore,
• 26:31
  but
• 26:31
  at
• 26:32
  that
• 26:32
  time,
• 26:32
  if
• 26:32
  a
• 26:33
  woman
• 26:33
  was
• 26:33
  in
• 26:33
  charge
• 26:34
  and
• 26:35
  she
• 26:35
  took
• 26:35
  control
• 26:36
  or
• 26:36
  she
• 26:36
  did
• 26:37
  anything
• 26:37
  that
• 26:37
  was
• 26:37
  tough
• 26:38
  or
• 26:38
  tough
• 26:39
  love
• 26:39
  or
• 26:39
  anything
• 26:40
  that
• 26:40
  she
• 26:40
  had
• 26:40
  to
• 26:41
  do
• 26:41
  to
• 26:42
  make
• 26:42
  this
• 26:43
  multimillion
• 26:44
  dollar
• 26:44
  venture
• 26:45
  that
• 26:45
  she's
• 26:45
  suddenly
• 26:46
  running
• 26:47
  go
• 26:47
  smoother,
• 26:48
  she
• 26:48
  gets
• 26:49
  deemed,
• 26:50
  you
• 26:50
  know,
• 26:52
  awful
• 26:52
  difficult.
• 26:53
  Yeah,
• 26:54
  yeah.
• 26:55
  Cosby,
• 26:56
  we
• 26:56
  all
• 26:56
  know,
• 26:57
  was,
• 26:57
  you
• 26:58
  know,
• 26:58
  he
• 26:58
  was
• 26:58
  horrific.
• 26:59
  He
• 26:59
  was
• 26:59
  a
• 26:59
  megalomaniac
• 27:00
  on
• 27:00
  his
• 27:01
  set.
• 27:01
  But
• 27:01
  you
• 27:02
  never
• 27:02
  heard
• 27:02
  those
• 27:02
  stories
• 27:03
  until
• 27:03
  much
• 27:03
  later.
• 27:04
  But
• 27:04
  you
• 27:04
  always
• 27:05
  heard
• 27:05
  the
• 27:05
  stories
• 27:05
  about
• 27:06
  the
• 27:06
  women.
• 27:07
  Fran
• 27:07
  Drescher.
• 27:08
  Yeah.
• 27:08
  I
• 27:09
  knew
• 27:09
  someone
• 27:09
  that
• 27:09
  worked
• 27:09
  for
• 27:10
  her
• 27:10
  as
• 27:10
  a
• 27:10
  writer,
• 27:11
  and
• 27:11
  it
• 27:12
  beat
• 27:12
  her
• 27:12
  up
• 27:12
  so
• 27:12
  badly,
• 27:13
  she
• 27:13
  left
• 27:13
  town.
• 27:14
  She
• 27:14
  went
• 27:14
  back
• 27:14
  home.
• 27:15
  Well,
• 27:15
  Ellen,
• 27:16
  the
• 27:17
  worst
• 27:17
  reputation
• 27:18
  of
• 27:18
  anybody.
• 27:18
  I
• 27:19
  have
• 27:19
  a
• 27:19
  girlfriend
• 27:19
  who
• 27:20
  wrote
• 27:20
  for
• 27:20
  Ellen
• 27:21
  and
• 27:21
  was
• 27:22
  horrif.
• 27:23
  And
• 27:23
  that's.
• 27:23
  That's
• 27:24
  more
• 27:24
  current.
• 27:25
  That's,
• 27:25
  you
• 27:25
  know,
• 27:26
  that's
• 27:26
  way
• 27:26
  more
• 27:27
  current.
• 27:28
  So
• 27:28
  it's
• 27:29
  also,
• 27:29
  and
• 27:30
  again,
• 27:30
  not
• 27:30
  to
• 27:30
  be
• 27:30
  a
• 27:30
  feministic
• 27:32
  soapbox
• 27:33
  screamer,
• 27:34
  but
• 27:34
  it's
• 27:34
  hard
• 27:35
  to
• 27:36
  figure
• 27:36
  out
• 27:36
  how
• 27:36
  to
• 27:36
  wield
• 27:37
  that
• 27:37
  power
• 27:37
  without
• 27:38
  being
• 27:38
  considered
• 27:39
  difficult.
• 27:40
  It
• 27:40
  just
• 27:40
  is.
• 27:40
  If
• 27:41
  you're
• 27:41
  a
• 27:41
  woman,
• 27:42
  the
• 27:42
  sitcom
• 27:42
  era
• 27:42
  is
• 27:43
  gone,
• 27:43
  essentially.
• 27:44
  How
• 27:44
  do
• 27:44
  you
• 27:44
  see
• 27:44
  the
• 27:45
  world
• 27:45
  now?
• 27:45
  The
• 27:45
  entertainment
• 27:46
  world?
• 27:47
  Yeah.
• 27:48
  I
• 27:48
  don't
• 27:48
  really
• 27:48
  know
• 27:49
  because
• 27:49
  you
• 27:49
  saw
• 27:50
  the
• 27:50
  show.
• 27:50
  You
• 27:50
  know
• 27:50
  that
• 27:51
  I
• 27:51
  got
• 27:51
  out
• 27:51
  of
• 27:51
  showbiz
• 27:52
  for
• 27:53
  10
• 27:53
  years
• 27:54
  because
• 27:54
  my
• 27:54
  partner
• 27:55
  died
• 27:55
  and
• 27:55
  we
• 27:55
  were
• 27:56
  broke
• 27:56
  and
• 27:56
  I
• 27:56
  just
• 27:57
  got
• 27:57
  a
• 27:57
  job
• 27:57
  job
• 27:58
  because
• 27:58
  I
• 27:58
  was
• 27:58
  just
• 27:59
  fed
• 27:59
  up
• 27:59
  with
• 27:59
  everything.
• 28:00
  This
• 28:00
  is
• 28:01
  my
• 28:01
  comeback
• 28:01
  show.
• 28:02
  This
• 28:02
  is.
• 28:03
  Oh,
• 28:03
  good
• 28:03
  for
• 28:03
  you.
• 28:03
  That's
• 28:04
  great.
• 28:04
  Yeah.
• 28:05
  You
• 28:05
  do
• 28:05
  talk
• 28:06
  about
• 28:06
  how
• 28:07
  your
• 28:07
  parents
• 28:08
  seem
• 28:08
  to
• 28:08
  discourage
• 28:09
  you
• 28:10
  in
• 28:10
  your
• 28:10
  self
• 28:10
  esteem
• 28:11
  issues
• 28:11
  as
• 28:11
  far
• 28:12
  as
• 28:12
  you
• 28:12
  weren't
• 28:12
  pretty
• 28:13
  enough,
• 28:13
  you
• 28:14
  don't
• 28:14
  have
• 28:14
  kids,
• 28:14
  it's
• 28:15
  not
• 28:15
  worth
• 28:15
  it,
• 28:15
  or
• 28:16
  something
• 28:16
  like
• 28:16
  that.
• 28:17
  Like
• 28:17
  any
• 28:17
  kid,
• 28:18
  it
• 28:18
  impresses
• 28:19
  you.
• 28:19
  Right?
• 28:20
  Yeah.
• 28:20
  So
• 28:20
  you
• 28:21
  found
• 28:21
  yourself
• 28:21
  in
• 28:21
  a
• 28:21
  situation
• 28:22
  where
• 28:22
  you
• 28:22
  hadn't
• 28:23
  had
• 28:23
  kids,
• 28:23
  you
• 28:23
  hadn't
• 28:23
  gotten
• 28:23
  marri.
• 28:24
  And
• 28:25
  then
• 28:25
  as
• 28:25
  you
• 28:25
  talk
• 28:26
  in
• 28:26
  the
• 28:26
  show,
• 28:26
  which
• 28:26
  struck
• 28:27
  me
• 28:27
  the
• 28:27
  most
• 28:28
  was
• 28:28
  this
• 28:28
  story
• 28:28
  about
• 28:29
  how
• 28:29
  you
• 28:30
  then
• 28:30
  were
• 28:31
  set
• 28:31
  up
• 28:31
  to
• 28:31
  meet
• 28:31
  somebody
• 28:32
  who
• 28:33
  you
• 28:33
  had
• 28:33
  no
• 28:34
  interest
• 28:34
  in
• 28:34
  whatsoever
• 28:35
  and
• 28:35
  then
• 28:35
  fell
• 28:36
  head
• 28:36
  over
• 28:36
  heels
• 28:36
  for
• 28:37
  him
• 28:37
  because
• 28:37
  he
• 28:37
  put
• 28:37
  up
• 28:38
  with
• 28:38
  everything
• 28:38
  you
• 28:38
  threw
• 28:39
  at
• 28:39
  him.
• 28:39
  He
• 28:39
  must
• 28:39
  have
• 28:39
  been
• 28:40
  something.
• 28:40
  He
• 28:40
  was
• 28:41
  something.
• 28:41
  He
• 28:41
  had
• 28:42
  a
• 28:42
  good
• 28:42
  10
• 28:42
  years
• 28:43
  together.
• 28:43
  20.
• 28:45
  Yeah.
• 28:45
  But
• 28:45
  this
• 28:46
  first
• 28:47
  cancer
• 28:47
  was
• 28:47
  shaving
• 28:47
  one
• 28:48
  day
• 28:48
  and
• 28:48
  felt
• 28:48
  a
• 28:48
  lump
• 28:48
  on
• 28:49
  his
• 28:49
  neck.
• 28:49
  And
• 28:49
  so
• 28:50
  began
• 28:50
  a
• 28:51
  with
• 28:51
  throat
• 28:51
  cancer,
• 28:52
  which
• 28:52
  he
• 28:53
  fought
• 28:53
  back.
• 28:54
  And
• 28:54
  then
• 28:55
  he
• 28:55
  gets
• 28:55
  struck
• 28:56
  with
• 28:56
  pancreatic
• 28:57
  cancer.
• 28:58
  And
• 28:58
  as
• 28:58
  you
• 28:58
  say
• 28:58
  in
• 28:59
  your
• 28:59
  show,
• 28:59
  you
• 28:59
  finally
• 29:00
  had
• 29:00
  a
• 29:00
  chance
• 29:00
  to
• 29:00
  be
• 29:00
  a
• 29:01
  mother.
• 29:01
  You
• 29:01
  mothered
• 29:01
  him.
• 29:02
  Yeah.
• 29:02
  Yeah.
• 29:03
  It
• 29:03
  sounded
• 29:04
  like
• 29:04
  such
• 29:04
  a
• 29:04
  beautiful
• 29:04
  relationship.
• 29:05
  It
• 29:05
  sounds
• 29:05
  like
• 29:05
  you
• 29:05
  paid
• 29:06
  attention.
• 29:06
  I
• 29:06
  did
• 29:07
  pay
• 29:07
  attention.
• 29:09
  I
• 29:10
  think
• 29:10
  it's
• 29:10
  a
• 29:10
  great
• 29:10
  show.
• 29:10
  And
• 29:11
  it's
• 29:11
  not
• 29:11
  a
• 29:11
  big
• 29:11
  depressing
• 29:12
  show
• 29:12
  about.
• 29:12
  No,
• 29:13
  not
• 29:13
  at
• 29:13
  all.
• 29:13
  It's
• 29:14
  a
• 29:14
  funny
• 29:14
  show
• 29:14
  about
• 29:14
  grief,
• 29:15
  which
• 29:15
  apparently,
• 29:17
  and
• 29:17
  this
• 29:17
  was
• 29:17
  totally
• 29:18
  unbeknownst
• 29:18
  to
• 29:18
  me,
• 29:18
  I
• 29:19
  didn't
• 29:19
  intend
• 29:19
  to
• 29:20
  do
• 29:20
  this.
• 29:20
  People
• 29:20
  are
• 29:20
  like,
• 29:21
  well,
• 29:21
  did
• 29:21
  you
• 29:22
  know?
• 29:22
  And
• 29:22
  I'm
• 29:22
  like,
• 29:23
  no,
• 29:23
  I
• 29:23
  had
• 29:23
  no
• 29:23
  idea.
• 29:24
  I
• 29:24
  just
• 29:24
  wrote
• 29:24
  what
• 29:24
  I
• 29:24
  wanted
• 29:25
  to
• 29:25
  write,
• 29:25
  which
• 29:26
  is
• 29:26
  one
• 29:26
  of
• 29:26
  the
• 29:26
  reasons
• 29:27
  I
• 29:27
  like
• 29:27
  one
• 29:27
  person
• 29:27
  shows.
• 29:28
  But
• 29:29
  one
• 29:29
  of
• 29:30
  the
• 29:30
  byproducts,
• 29:31
  and
• 29:31
  I'm
• 29:31
  really
• 29:31
  grateful
• 29:32
  for
• 29:32
  it,
• 29:32
  is
• 29:33
  that
• 29:33
  so
• 29:33
  many
• 29:34
  women
• 29:34
  and
• 29:35
  men
• 29:35
  who
• 29:35
  have
• 29:36
  lost
• 29:36
  someone,
• 29:36
  because
• 29:37
  we're
• 29:37
  at
• 29:37
  that
• 29:37
  age,
• 29:38
  we're
• 29:38
  all
• 29:39
  grieving,
• 29:39
  we're
• 29:40
  all
• 29:40
  losing
• 29:40
  people
• 29:40
  to.
• 29:40
  Cancer
• 29:41
  left
• 29:41
  and
• 29:42
  right.
• 29:42
  Left.
• 29:42
  Yeah.
• 29:43
  I
• 29:43
  feel
• 29:43
  like
• 29:43
  I'm
• 29:43
  in
• 29:43
  an
• 29:43
  Agatha
• 29:44
  Christie
• 29:44
  novel.
• 29:45
  You
• 29:45
  know,
• 29:46
  every
• 29:46
  week
• 29:46
  somebody
• 29:46
  else
• 29:47
  is
• 29:47
  gonna
• 29:47
  die,
• 29:47
  and
• 29:48
  I
• 29:48
  don't
• 29:48
  know
• 29:48
  who
• 29:48
  it
• 29:48
  is.
• 29:49
  True.
• 29:50
  It
• 29:50
  is
• 29:50
  true.
• 29:51
  But
• 29:51
  I
• 29:51
  talk
• 29:51
  about
• 29:52
  grief
• 29:52
  with
• 29:53
  humor
• 29:54
  because
• 29:54
  I
• 29:55
  can't
• 29:55
  not.
• 29:56
  Well,
• 29:56
  the
• 29:57
  thing
• 29:57
  that
• 29:57
  hit
• 29:57
  me
• 29:57
  emotionally
• 29:58
  the
• 29:58
  hardest
• 29:58
  of
• 29:58
  the
• 29:59
  show
• 30:00
  was
• 30:00
  when
• 30:01
  the
• 30:01
  love
• 30:02
  of
• 30:02
  your
• 30:02
  life
• 30:02
  became
• 30:03
  ill
• 30:03
  and
• 30:04
  suddenly
• 30:04
  your
• 30:05
  freedom
• 30:05
  was
• 30:05
  gone,
• 30:06
  because
• 30:07
  now
• 30:07
  it
• 30:07
  was
• 30:07
  all
• 30:07
  about
• 30:08
  survival.
• 30:09
  Here
• 30:10
  you
• 30:10
  are
• 30:10
  happy
• 30:10
  in
• 30:11
  a
• 30:11
  marriage
• 30:11
  and
• 30:11
  then
• 30:11
  suddenly,
• 30:12
  boom.
• 30:13
  I
• 30:13
  mean,
• 30:13
  you're
• 30:13
  still
• 30:13
  together,
• 30:14
  but
• 30:15
  the
• 30:15
  travel
• 30:16
  plans,
• 30:16
  all
• 30:16
  the
• 30:17
  ideas
• 30:17
  just
• 30:17
  change
• 30:18
  overnight.
• 30:18
  And
• 30:19
  that
• 30:19
  can
• 30:19
  happen
• 30:19
  anytime.
• 30:20
  It's
• 30:21
  so
• 30:21
  important
• 30:21
  to
• 30:22
  live
• 30:22
  now.
• 30:23
  Absolutely.
• 30:24
  And
• 30:24
  most.
• 30:25
  So
• 30:25
  many
• 30:25
  people
• 30:25
  don't
• 30:26
  realize
• 30:26
  that
• 30:27
  when
• 30:27
  someone
• 30:27
  is
• 30:28
  dying
• 30:28
  or
• 30:29
  sick
• 30:30
  for
• 30:30
  elongated
• 30:31
  period
• 30:31
  of
• 30:32
  time,
• 30:32
  it's
• 30:33
  so.
• 30:33
  It's
• 30:34
  almost
• 30:34
  harder
• 30:35
  on
• 30:35
  the
• 30:35
  caregiver
• 30:36
  than
• 30:36
  it
• 30:36
  is
• 30:37
  the
• 30:37
  person.
• 30:38
  It
• 30:39
  is
• 30:39
  so
• 30:39
  hard
• 30:40
  to
• 30:40
  be
• 30:40
  there
• 30:40
  for.
• 30:41
  That
• 30:41
  is
• 30:41
  so
• 30:42
  hard,
• 30:43
  you
• 30:43
  know,
• 30:43
  and
• 30:43
  you
• 30:43
  can
• 30:44
  only.
• 30:44
  For
• 30:44
  me,
• 30:44
  I
• 30:45
  could
• 30:45
  only
• 30:45
  possibly
• 30:46
  do
• 30:46
  it
• 30:46
  one
• 30:46
  day
• 30:46
  at
• 30:47
  a
• 30:47
  time.
• 30:47
  I
• 30:47
  never
• 30:48
  stopped
• 30:48
  and
• 30:48
  thought
• 30:48
  about
• 30:48
  what
• 30:49
  I
• 30:49
  was
• 30:49
  doing.
• 30:49
  I
• 30:49
  just
• 30:50
  did
• 30:50
  it.
• 30:50
  You
• 30:50
  know,
• 30:50
  you
• 30:51
  just
• 30:51
  have
• 30:51
  to.
• 30:51
  I
• 30:52
  have
• 30:52
  to
• 30:52
  make
• 30:52
  sure
• 30:52
  this
• 30:52
  guy's
• 30:53
  taken
• 30:53
  care
• 30:53
  of.
• 30:54
  What
• 30:54
  do
• 30:54
  you
• 30:55
  envision
• 30:55
  now
• 30:55
  for
• 30:55
  your
• 30:56
  future
• 30:57
  since
• 30:57
  you've
• 30:58
  got
• 30:58
  another
• 30:58
  show
• 30:58
  on.
• 30:58
  The
• 30:58
  show
• 30:58
  on
• 30:59
  you?
• 30:59
  I'm
• 30:59
  not
• 30:59
  going
• 30:59
  to
• 30:59
  die,
• 30:59
  that's
• 30:59
  for
• 31:00
  sure.
• 31:01
  I
• 31:01
  would
• 31:02
  really
• 31:02
  like
• 31:02
  to
• 31:02
  take
• 31:02
  the
• 31:03
  show
• 31:03
  to
• 31:03
  other
• 31:03
  cities.
• 31:04
  I
• 31:04
  would
• 31:04
  love
• 31:05
  to
• 31:05
  take
• 31:05
  it
• 31:05
  to
• 31:05
  New
• 31:05
  York.
• 31:06
  But
• 31:06
  if
• 31:06
  I
• 31:07
  can't
• 31:07
  pull
• 31:07
  that
• 31:07
  off,
• 31:08
  you
• 31:08
  know,
• 31:08
  I'd
• 31:09
  like
• 31:09
  to
• 31:09
  get
• 31:09
  this
• 31:09
  show
• 31:09
  booked
• 31:10
  around
• 31:10
  the
• 31:10
  country.
• 31:11
  Cause
• 31:11
  I
• 31:11
  think
• 31:11
  it's.
• 31:12
  Besides
• 31:12
  the
• 31:12
  fact
• 31:12
  that
• 31:13
  I
• 31:13
  just
• 31:13
  love
• 31:13
  to
• 31:14
  do
• 31:14
  that.
• 31:14
  It
• 31:14
  was
• 31:14
  always
• 31:15
  on
• 31:15
  my
• 31:15
  bucket
• 31:15
  list.
• 31:16
  I
• 31:17
  think
• 31:17
  that
• 31:17
  it's
• 31:18
  a
• 31:18
  very
• 31:18
  healing.
• 31:18
  I
• 31:18
  know
• 31:18
  it's
• 31:19
  a
• 31:19
  healing
• 31:19
  show.
• 31:20
  I
• 31:20
  hear
• 31:20
  it
• 31:20
  after
• 31:21
  every
• 31:21
  single
• 31:21
  show.
• 31:22
  The
• 31:22
  women
• 31:22
  come
• 31:23
  up.
• 31:23
  To
• 31:23
  me,
• 31:24
  it's
• 31:24
  mostly
• 31:24
  women
• 31:25
  in
• 31:25
  the
• 31:25
  audience.
• 31:25
  Cause
• 31:25
  that's
• 31:26
  who
• 31:26
  mostly
• 31:26
  goes
• 31:26
  to
• 31:26
  the
• 31:27
  theater.
• 31:27
  But
• 31:27
  these
• 31:28
  women
• 31:28
  are
• 31:28
  like,
• 31:29
  oh,
• 31:29
  my
• 31:29
  God,
• 31:30
  I
• 31:30
  just
• 31:30
  lost
• 31:30
  my
• 31:31
  husband.
• 31:32
  Nobody
• 31:32
  is
• 31:32
  talking
• 31:33
  about
• 31:33
  grief
• 31:34
  with
• 31:34
  humor
• 31:34
  at
• 31:35
  all.
• 31:35
  Everybody.
• 31:36
  You
• 31:36
  know,
• 31:36
  the
• 31:37
  way
• 31:37
  we
• 31:37
  talk
• 31:37
  about
• 31:37
  grief
• 31:38
  in
• 31:38
  this
• 31:38
  country
• 31:39
  is
• 31:39
  like.
• 31:41
  Is
• 31:41
  just
• 31:42
  dire.
• 31:42
  Like,
• 31:42
  you're
• 31:43
  gonna
• 31:43
  die.
• 31:44
  And
• 31:45
  so
• 31:45
  that's
• 31:45
  one
• 31:45
  of
• 31:45
  the
• 31:46
  happy
• 31:46
  byproducts
• 31:47
  is
• 31:47
  I'm.
• 31:47
  I
• 31:47
  had
• 31:47
  a
• 31:48
  woman
• 31:48
  say,
• 31:48
  I
• 31:48
  haven't
• 31:48
  left
• 31:49
  in
• 31:49
  six
• 31:49
  months
• 31:50
  since
• 31:50
  my
• 31:50
  husband
• 31:51
  died.
• 31:51
  Thank
• 31:51
  you.
• 31:52
  She's,
• 31:52
  like,
• 31:52
  hugging
• 31:53
  me
• 31:53
  way
• 31:53
  beyond
• 31:53
  comfort.
• 31:54
  And
• 31:54
  I'm
• 31:54
  like,
• 31:55
  all
• 31:55
  right,
• 31:55
  all
• 31:55
  right.
• 31:55
  Thank
• 31:56
  you.
• 31:58
  How
• 31:58
  many
• 31:58
  days
• 31:58
  a
• 31:58
  week
• 31:59
  are
• 31:59
  you
• 31:59
  doing
• 31:59
  the
• 31:59
  show?
• 32:00
  Three
• 32:01
  to
• 32:01
  four.
• 32:01
  Thursday,
• 32:02
  Friday,
• 32:02
  Saturday,
• 32:03
  Sunday,
• 32:03
  matinee,
• 32:04
  generally.
• 32:05
  How
• 32:05
  exhausting
• 32:05
  is
• 32:06
  that?
• 32:06
  It's.
• 32:07
  You
• 32:07
  know,
• 32:07
  it's
• 32:07
  not
• 32:08
  so
• 32:08
  exhausting
• 32:09
  performing
• 32:09
  the
• 32:10
  show.
• 32:10
  It's
• 32:10
  emotionally
• 32:11
  exhausting
• 32:12
  because
• 32:12
  I
• 32:12
  go
• 32:12
  through.
• 32:13
  I
• 32:13
  relive
• 32:13
  his
• 32:14
  death
• 32:14
  every
• 32:14
  single
• 32:15
  night.
• 32:15
  Which
• 32:15
  is
• 32:16
  like,
• 32:16
  oh,
• 32:16
  boy.
• 32:16
  I
• 32:16
  hadn't
• 32:17
  thought
• 32:17
  how
• 32:17
  unpleasant
• 32:18
  that
• 32:18
  was
• 32:18
  gonna
• 32:19
  be.
• 32:19
  During
• 32:19
  rehearsals,
• 32:20
  my
• 32:20
  director
• 32:21
  would
• 32:21
  say
• 32:21
  to
• 32:21
  me,
• 32:22
  it's
• 32:22
  way
• 32:22
  too
• 32:23
  soon
• 32:23
  for
• 32:23
  you
• 32:23
  to
• 32:23
  cry.
• 32:24
  Just,
• 32:24
  Deb,
• 32:24
  you
• 32:24
  can't
• 32:24
  cry
• 32:25
  at
• 32:25
  this
• 32:25
  point.
• 32:25
  I'm
• 32:25
  like,
• 32:26
  hey,
• 32:26
  buddy,
• 32:26
  I'm
• 32:27
  not
• 32:27
  acting.
• 32:27
  You
• 32:27
  know,
• 32:28
  this
• 32:29
  is
• 32:29
  what
• 32:29
  just
• 32:29
  happened.
• 32:30
  Sorry.
• 32:31
  But
• 32:32
  the
• 32:33
  exhausting
• 32:33
  part
• 32:34
  is
• 32:34
  that
• 32:34
  I'm
• 32:34
  also
• 32:34
  producing
• 32:35
  It.
• 32:35
  You
• 32:36
  know,
• 32:36
  I
• 32:36
  heard
• 32:36
  a
• 32:36
  great
• 32:36
  interview
• 32:37
  once
• 32:37
  with
• 32:37
  Michelle
• 32:38
  Pfeiffer
• 32:39
  years
• 32:39
  ago
• 32:39
  in
• 32:39
  the
• 32:39
  80s,
• 32:40
  when
• 32:40
  she
• 32:40
  was
• 32:40
  like,
• 32:40
  the
• 32:41
  hottest
• 32:41
  actress.
• 32:42
  And
• 32:42
  I
• 32:42
  think
• 32:42
  it
• 32:43
  was
• 32:43
  Barbara
• 32:43
  Waters
• 32:44
  saying,
• 32:44
  what
• 32:44
  do
• 32:44
  you
• 32:45
  say
• 32:45
  when
• 32:45
  people
• 32:45
  say
• 32:46
  you're
• 32:46
  being
• 32:46
  overpaid
• 32:47
  for
• 32:47
  your
• 32:48
  talent?
• 32:48
  And
• 32:48
  she
• 32:48
  goes,
• 32:49
  well,
• 32:50
  I
• 32:50
  say
• 32:50
  that
• 32:50
  I
• 32:51
  act
• 32:51
  for
• 32:51
  free.
• 32:52
  The
• 32:53
  money
• 32:54
  is
• 32:54
  for.
• 32:54
  This
• 32:55
  is
• 32:55
  for
• 32:55
  doing
• 32:55
  the
• 32:56
  interviews.
• 32:56
  That's
• 32:57
  what
• 32:57
  I
• 32:57
  get
• 32:57
  paid
• 32:58
  for,
• 32:59
  all
• 32:59
  the
• 32:59
  work
• 32:59
  I
• 33:00
  have
• 33:00
  to
• 33:00
  do.
• 33:00
  And
• 33:00
  I've
• 33:00
  always
• 33:01
  loved
• 33:01
  that
• 33:01
  quote,
• 33:02
  because
• 33:02
  the
• 33:03
  work's
• 33:03
  the
• 33:03
  easy
• 33:04
  part.
• 33:04
  It's
• 33:04
  everything
• 33:05
  you
• 33:05
  have
• 33:05
  to
• 33:05
  do
• 33:06
  to
• 33:06
  get
• 33:06
  the
• 33:07
  word
• 33:07
  out
• 33:07
  and
• 33:08
  to
• 33:08
  get.
• 33:08
  People
• 33:08
  out
• 33:08
  of
• 33:09
  their
• 33:09
  homes.
• 33:09
  Oh,
• 33:10
  my
• 33:10
  God.
• 33:10
  Nobody
• 33:11
  wants
• 33:11
  to
• 33:11
  come
• 33:11
  out
• 33:11
  anymore.
• 33:12
  How
• 33:12
  do
• 33:12
  you
• 33:13
  do
• 33:13
  it?
• 33:13
  I
• 33:13
  don't.
• 33:14
  I
• 33:14
  mean,
• 33:14
  you
• 33:14
  saw.
• 33:14
  It
• 33:15
  was
• 33:15
  a
• 33:15
  small
• 33:15
  crown
• 33:16
  the
• 33:16
  night
• 33:16
  you
• 33:16
  saw
• 33:16
  it.
• 33:17
  Yeah.
• 33:18
  I
• 33:18
  mean,
• 33:18
  we've
• 33:19
  had
• 33:19
  good
• 33:19
  crowds,
• 33:20
  but
• 33:20
  not
• 33:20
  every
• 33:21
  night,
• 33:21
  not
• 33:21
  by
• 33:21
  a
• 33:21
  long
• 33:22
  shot.
• 33:22
  It's
• 33:22
  so
• 33:23
  difficult,
• 33:23
  and
• 33:23
  it's
• 33:24
  worthy
• 33:24
  of
• 33:24
  people's
• 33:25
  time
• 33:25
  to
• 33:25
  go
• 33:25
  see
• 33:25
  this
• 33:25
  show.
• 33:26
  Thank
• 33:26
  you.
• 33:26
  And
• 33:26
  especially
• 33:27
  because
• 33:27
  you
• 33:28
  can't
• 33:28
  see
• 33:28
  something
• 33:28
  like
• 33:29
  this
• 33:29
  on
• 33:29
  tv,
• 33:29
  you're
• 33:30
  not
• 33:30
  gonna,
• 33:31
  you
• 33:31
  know,
• 33:32
  the
• 33:32
  experience,
• 33:33
  you
• 33:34
  know,
• 33:34
  for
• 33:34
  me,
• 33:34
  I'm
• 33:34
  a
• 33:34
  theater
• 33:35
  person,
• 33:35
  and
• 33:35
  I
• 33:35
  know
• 33:36
  Phil
• 33:36
  is,
• 33:36
  too.
• 33:36
  I
• 33:37
  don't
• 33:37
  know
• 33:37
  about
• 33:37
  you,
• 33:38
  but
• 33:38
  the
• 33:38
  experience
• 33:39
  of
• 33:40
  the
• 33:40
  connection,
• 33:40
  which
• 33:40
  is
• 33:41
  why
• 33:41
  one
• 33:41
  of
• 33:41
  the
• 33:41
  themes
• 33:41
  of
• 33:42
  the
• 33:42
  show,
• 33:42
  the
• 33:42
  human
• 33:43
  connection,
• 33:44
  is
• 33:44
  the
• 33:44
  only
• 33:45
  thing
• 33:45
  in
• 33:45
  the
• 33:45
  world
• 33:46
  that
• 33:46
  heals,
• 33:46
  in
• 33:47
  my
• 33:47
  opinion.
• 33:48
  This
• 33:48
  is
• 33:49
  your
• 33:49
  life
• 33:49
  story.
• 33:50
  What's
• 33:50
  the
• 33:50
  takeaway?
• 33:51
  What
• 33:51
  did
• 33:51
  it
• 33:51
  do
• 33:52
  for
• 33:52
  you?
• 33:52
  Does
• 33:53
  it
• 33:53
  clarify?
• 33:54
  It
• 33:54
  has
• 33:54
  clarified.
• 33:55
  But
• 33:55
  it's
• 33:55
  very
• 33:56
  interesting
• 33:56
  because
• 33:56
  when
• 33:57
  you're
• 33:57
  a
• 33:57
  storyteller,
• 33:59
  Phil
• 33:59
  probably
• 34:00
  knows
• 34:00
  this.
• 34:00
  You
• 34:01
  probably
• 34:01
  know
• 34:01
  this
• 34:02
  when
• 34:02
  you're
• 34:02
  a
• 34:02
  storyteller
• 34:03
  and
• 34:04
  you
• 34:04
  remember.
• 34:05
  I
• 34:05
  mean,
• 34:05
  I've
• 34:05
  gotten
• 34:05
  to
• 34:05
  the
• 34:06
  point
• 34:06
  where
• 34:06
  my
• 34:06
  story,
• 34:07
  which
• 34:07
  is,
• 34:08
  you
• 34:08
  know,
• 34:09
  90%
• 34:10
  true,
• 34:11
  10%
• 34:12
  beefed
• 34:13
  up
• 34:13
  just
• 34:13
  for
• 34:13
  dramatic
• 34:14
  sake,
• 34:15
  you
• 34:15
  start
• 34:16
  remembering
• 34:17
  the
• 34:17
  version
• 34:17
  you've
• 34:18
  written
• 34:18
  instead
• 34:19
  of
• 34:19
  the
• 34:19
  version
• 34:20
  you've
• 34:20
  lived,
• 34:22
  and
• 34:22
  you
• 34:23
  kind
• 34:23
  of
• 34:23
  forget.
• 34:24
  And
• 34:24
  I.
• 34:25
  And
• 34:25
  my
• 34:25
  brother's
• 34:25
  always
• 34:26
  saying
• 34:26
  to
• 34:26
  me,
• 34:27
  that
• 34:27
  is
• 34:27
  not
• 34:28
  the
• 34:28
  way
• 34:28
  it
• 34:28
  went,
• 34:28
  Debbie.
• 34:29
  I'm
• 34:29
  like,
• 34:29
  well,
• 34:29
  that's
• 34:29
  the
• 34:30
  way
• 34:30
  it
• 34:30
  went
• 34:30
  to
• 34:30
  me.
• 34:30
  And
• 34:30
  he's
• 34:31
  like,
• 34:31
  nope.
• 34:32
  But
• 34:32
  my
• 34:32
  big
• 34:33
  ten
• 34:33
  takeaway
• 34:34
  is
• 34:34
  that
• 34:35
  my
• 34:35
  job
• 34:35
  in
• 34:35
  this
• 34:36
  planet.
• 34:36
  I've
• 34:36
  always
• 34:36
  known
• 34:37
  that
• 34:37
  my
• 34:37
  job
• 34:37
  in
• 34:37
  this
• 34:38
  planet
• 34:38
  is
• 34:39
  to
• 34:39
  entertain
• 34:39
  people.
• 34:40
  I've
• 34:40
  always
• 34:40
  been
• 34:40
  an
• 34:41
  entertainer.
• 34:42
  And
• 34:42
  my
• 34:43
  big
• 34:43
  takeaway
• 34:43
  is
• 34:44
  how
• 34:44
  much
• 34:45
  the
• 34:46
  world
• 34:46
  needs
• 34:47
  to
• 34:47
  be
• 34:47
  able
• 34:48
  to
• 34:48
  get
• 34:48
  some
• 34:48
  perspective
• 34:49
  on
• 34:49
  grief
• 34:50
  and
• 34:50
  death
• 34:50
  in
• 34:51
  this
• 34:51
  world.
• 34:51
  That
• 34:52
  was
• 34:52
  never
• 34:52
  what
• 34:52
  I
• 34:52
  wanted,
• 34:53
  the
• 34:53
  show.
• 34:53
  I
• 34:53
  thought
• 34:53
  this
• 34:54
  show
• 34:54
  was
• 34:54
  about
• 34:54
  alcoholism.
• 34:55
  But
• 34:55
  then
• 34:55
  the
• 34:56
  PAT
• 34:56
  story
• 34:57
  came
• 34:57
  out,
• 34:57
  and
• 34:57
  then
• 34:58
  everybody
• 34:58
  said,
• 34:58
  you
• 34:59
  got
• 34:59
  to
• 34:59
  build
• 34:59
  up
• 34:59
  the
• 34:59
  pat
• 35:00
  story.
• 35:00
  That's
• 35:00
  the
• 35:01
  story.
• 35:01
  And
• 35:01
  there
• 35:01
  is
• 35:01
  plenty
• 35:02
  of
• 35:02
  humor.
• 35:02
  It's
• 35:02
  funny.
• 35:03
  Oh
• 35:03
  yeah.
• 35:04
  Some
• 35:04
  of
• 35:04
  the
• 35:04
  biggest
• 35:05
  laughs
• 35:05
  are
• 35:05
  as
• 35:06
  he's
• 35:06
  dying.
• 35:07
  You
• 35:07
  know,
• 35:07
  it's
• 35:08
  true.
• 35:08
  It's
• 35:09
  true
• 35:10
  because
• 35:10
  he,
• 35:11
  you
• 35:11
  know,
• 35:11
  we
• 35:11
  laughed,
• 35:12
  we
• 35:12
  had
• 35:12
  to.
• 35:13
  That's
• 35:13
  what
• 35:13
  they
• 35:14
  say,
• 35:14
  right?
• 35:14
  Dying
• 35:15
  is
• 35:15
  easy,
• 35:15
  comedy
• 35:16
  is
• 35:16
  hard.
• 35:18
  But
• 35:19
  I
• 35:19
  also
• 35:19
  have
• 35:19
  to
• 35:19
  say
• 35:20
  that
• 35:20
  you
• 35:20
  just
• 35:20
  articulated
• 35:22
  so
• 35:22
  beautifully
• 35:23
  what
• 35:24
  it
• 35:24
  is,
• 35:25
  why
• 35:25
  we
• 35:25
  do
• 35:26
  what
• 35:26
  we
• 35:26
  do
• 35:27
  and
• 35:28
  why
• 35:28
  we
• 35:28
  feel
• 35:29
  the
• 35:29
  calling
• 35:30
  to
• 35:30
  perform
• 35:31
  and
• 35:32
  tell
• 35:32
  stories
• 35:33
  to
• 35:33
  people.
• 35:34
  You
• 35:34
  know,
• 35:34
  it's
• 35:35
  a
• 35:35
  healing
• 35:35
  force.
• 35:36
  It
• 35:36
  is.
• 35:36
  And
• 35:36
  it
• 35:37
  both.
• 35:37
  It
• 35:37
  heals
• 35:38
  us
• 35:38
  and
• 35:38
  it
• 35:39
  heals
• 35:40
  those
• 35:40
  who
• 35:41
  connect
• 35:41
  with
• 35:41
  us.
• 35:42
  And
• 35:42
  God
• 35:43
  bless
• 35:43
  you
• 35:43
  for
• 35:43
  that.
• 35:44
  God
• 35:44
  bless
• 35:44
  you
• 35:44
  guys
• 35:45
  too.
• 35:45
  And
• 35:45
  I
• 35:45
  think
• 35:46
  it's
• 35:46
  definitely
• 35:46
  gotta
• 35:47
  help
• 35:47
  your
• 35:47
  self
• 35:47
  esteem
• 35:47
  because
• 35:48
  you
• 35:48
  seem
• 35:48
  to
• 35:48
  have
• 35:48
  plenty
• 35:49
  of
• 35:49
  it
• 35:49
  now.
• 35:50
  I
• 35:50
  don't.
• 35:52
  Well,
• 35:52
  you're
• 35:53
  acting
• 35:53
  very
• 35:53
  well.
• 35:55
  No,
• 35:56
  I'm
• 35:56
  a
• 35:56
  better
• 35:57
  than
• 35:57
  I
• 35:57
  used
• 35:57
  to
• 35:57
  be.
• 35:58
  Yeah.
• 35:59
  Trust
• 35:59
  me,
• 35:59
  if
• 36:00
  one
• 36:00
  person
• 36:00
  that
• 36:01
  came
• 36:01
  to
• 36:01
  the
• 36:01
  show,
• 36:02
  waited
• 36:02
  in
• 36:02
  the
• 36:02
  audience
• 36:03
  and
• 36:03
  said
• 36:03
  to
• 36:03
  me
• 36:04
  that
• 36:04
  was
• 36:04
  awful,
• 36:05
  I
• 36:05
  would
• 36:05
  probably
• 36:06
  go
• 36:06
  home
• 36:06
  and
• 36:07
  drink.
• 36:07
  Oh
• 36:07
  God,
• 36:08
  who
• 36:08
  wouldn't
• 36:08
  though?
• 36:09
  That's
• 36:10
  not
• 36:10
  true,
• 36:11
  you
• 36:11
  know.
• 36:12
  You
• 36:12
  know,
• 36:12
  there's
• 36:13
  a.
• 36:13
  I
• 36:13
  always
• 36:14
  tell
• 36:14
  this
• 36:14
  story.
• 36:14
  There
• 36:15
  was
• 36:15
  a
• 36:15
  documentary
• 36:16
  about
• 36:16
  Madonna
• 36:16
  when
• 36:17
  she
• 36:17
  was
• 36:17
  at
• 36:17
  her
• 36:17
  peak.
• 36:17
  It
• 36:18
  was
• 36:18
  called
• 36:18
  Truth
• 36:18
  or
• 36:18
  Dare,
• 36:19
  right?
• 36:19
  And
• 36:20
  she's
• 36:21
  sitting
• 36:21
  backstage
• 36:22
  and
• 36:22
  Warren
• 36:22
  Beatty's
• 36:23
  her
• 36:23
  lover
• 36:23
  and
• 36:23
  he's
• 36:23
  there
• 36:24
  and
• 36:24
  her
• 36:24
  manager
• 36:25
  there.
• 36:25
  And
• 36:26
  she
• 36:26
  said
• 36:26
  to
• 36:26
  everybody,
• 36:27
  who
• 36:27
  was
• 36:27
  that
• 36:28
  guy
• 36:28
  down
• 36:28
  front?
• 36:29
  Because
• 36:29
  he
• 36:29
  didn't
• 36:30
  like
• 36:30
  me.
• 36:30
  I
• 36:30
  told
• 36:31
  you,
• 36:31
  I
• 36:31
  don't
• 36:31
  want
• 36:31
  people
• 36:32
  down
• 36:32
  front
• 36:32
  that
• 36:32
  don't
• 36:33
  like
• 36:33
  me.
• 36:34
  And
• 36:34
  if
• 36:35
  it
• 36:35
  can
• 36:35
  happen
• 36:35
  to
• 36:36
  Madonna,
• 36:36
  it
• 36:36
  can
• 36:36
  certainly
• 36:37
  happen
• 36:37
  to
• 36:37
  debonna.
• 36:39
  We're
• 36:39
  speaking
• 36:39
  to
• 36:39
  Debbie
• 36:40
  Casper,
• 36:40
  stand
• 36:41
  up
• 36:41
  comedian
• 36:41
  and
• 36:41
  writer
• 36:42
  and
• 36:42
  her
• 36:42
  one
• 36:42
  woman
• 36:43
  show
• 36:43
  is
• 36:43
  called
• 36:43
  Monkeys
• 36:44
  on
• 36:44
  My
• 36:44
  Back
• 36:45
  and
• 36:45
  everywhere
• 36:46
  else.
• 36:46
  It's
• 36:46
  a
• 36:47
  great
• 36:47
  story
• 36:47
  with
• 36:48
  its
• 36:48
  roots
• 36:48
  in
• 36:48
  South
• 36:49
  Jersey,
• 36:49
  Manhattan
• 36:50
  and
• 36:50
  then
• 36:50
  Hollywood.
• 36:51
  People
• 36:51
  can
• 36:51
  go
• 36:52
  to
• 36:52
  your
• 36:52
  website,
• 36:52
  Debbie
• 36:53
  Kasper
• 36:53
  with
• 36:53
  a
• 36:54
  k
• 36:54
  dot
• 36:54
  com.
• 36:55
  Debbie,
• 36:56
  thank
• 36:56
  you
• 36:56
  so
• 36:56
  much.
• 36:56
  Good
• 36:57
  luck
• 36:57
  with
• 36:57
  the
• 36:57
  show.
• 36:57
  Thank
• 36:58
  you
• 36:58
  guys
• 36:58
  so
• 36:58
  much.
• 36:59
  So
• 36:59
  good
• 36:59
  to
• 36:59
  have
• 36:59
  you.
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