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- 0:05Good morning. We are this is a sham starting
- 0:10with us Ribis start again from the beginning just to make it a
- 0:14clean, clean start. Semi Kouston Tess Dvaratera
- 0:19multi lahavas of the Kochavan Dratara.
- 0:23It's motor to land to, to to a non Juba ribis.
- 0:28The Mahocus Richard name. Is it a mitzvah, A hiev, A
- 0:33mitzvah or just a Hatter? The Rumban says it's just a
- 0:40Hatter. The round bomb says it's a
- 0:43mitzvah, that it's unclear in the round bomb whether it is,
- 0:47whether whether it's a mitzvah, whether it's a mitzvah or a
- 0:52hive. It's a hive.
- 0:55Some say it's a name that they give him a free loan.
- 1:00It's like Los Sujanes. And so therefore, if that's the
- 1:02case, then you know, if you if you recognize it, if you're
- 1:05mocking him, then it would be OK.
- 1:07It would say it would be OK if you if you give him a give him a
- 1:10free loan. Other people learn their learn,
- 1:14learn the learn the Ramba. I think they're in balance.
- 1:16The Rambam that it's a few gamor that's right, that it's that's
- 1:21no, there's a big disaster. I think learns that it's a
- 1:23mitzvah. So it's just a mitzvah armor
- 1:26that of the but you're not you know, but you're not hive to the
- 1:32portion of the Mohabbar is mutter lahalvos, not
- 1:36mitzvahalvos. So it seems to be going like not
- 1:40not like the Rambam, but the in low if it's not, you know, fish.
- 1:48The issue is that you might come to learn from there, you know,
- 1:53get close to them and learn from them.
- 1:55So or or is not going to learn from them or rivers to Rabbanum
- 1:59or rivers to Rabbanum. We're not.
- 2:01So we're going to see there. I'll just speak a little couple
- 2:05column and rivers suit service the rices of suits, meaning that
- 2:10I give you, you know, is that I'll land, I'll lend, you know,
- 2:15100 and you're I'll you know, and you're going to give me back
- 2:18200 simple as sort of suits be there.
- 2:21Isa. It's planned.
- 2:22It it it's the it's the loan is planned like that.
- 2:30And that's sort of rivers there Isa a general discussion about
- 2:36what the reason what what the smart or the smart a little bit
- 2:39of smart over here that the Kashmul time client Salvatrix
- 2:47says that it's it's it's an idea of of it's this is part of the
- 2:53loan. You know, if this is this is
- 2:55something that it's it's it's something which is a it's part
- 3:01of the actual deal of the loan. The Rashba in different places.
- 3:06I don't know who says it in the Rashba says it's an idea of
- 3:10spirits that you're renting his money.
- 3:13You know, you're it's the idea of, well, you're using my money
- 3:15for a certain amount of time, so you're renting my money.
- 3:18So you have to go ahead and pay me for that for you're renting
- 3:22it, the use of it. So it's two different
- 3:26understandings. They're not convenience.
- 3:27I don't remember. As we go through, we'll keep
- 3:31that in mind. No, rib is oh, rib.
- 3:32Is there a button on rib? Is there a button is generally,
- 3:37but there are a few different bunch of the different ribbon.
- 3:41Those are the ones we are normally interact with.
- 3:44Well, one basic case is Derek Mecca homem card that if you're
- 3:49and you're buying and selling things and you and you and you
- 3:52and you let them have things on credit and then the you know,
- 3:57the price goes up and you give it back or things like that or,
- 4:00you know, that's ribbon in the motor.
- 4:06Behold Indian and we pass in nowadays it's motor because
- 4:09anyway, you're doing business withholding in the Ramos says.
- 4:14And so therefore, there's no there's no issues nowadays.
- 4:19The interesting side point just to even the creative that he
- 4:27does brings interesting is someone brings Araya discussion
- 4:34about Yoram. He says that the Vaja Valja da
- 4:38via Vaja. One of the things he borrowed
- 4:40money Beribius from Yoram and Yoram to support the support
- 4:46from Naveen. That's what says his widow.
- 4:49You know Almada. That's why Alicia came.
- 4:51He didn't she she couldn't pay it back because it kept them the
- 4:55Ribius kept them rising. So that's why he the whole
- 4:58miracle with the oil. So so yes, this is Ivan wasn't
- 5:05you know, wasn't your wasn't your Magoy.
- 5:07His mother was Ezevo, and then Ezevo didn't seem to be the most
- 5:12the best Chioris. So so he brings a right from
- 5:16there. That's Mucher Lahalvos is mucher
- 5:19to borrow money from Magoy to Ribis if you need to.
- 5:24But he does says that he does is the question about it.
- 5:28He says his Raya's Argaraya cause thesis in Vorozaro says
- 5:32that urine was the cause of Nisra al Mumur and so there and
- 5:36the reason why Avaja was supposed to to borrow from him
- 5:39was because of Koch Nafesh. So there's a bit of a discussion
- 5:43about whether you'd be allowed if Stan be allowed to go ahead
- 5:46and take loans from agora. I think the general we'll see
- 5:50that we'll see what the halacha is, but it's just not an
- 5:53interesting, it's not an interesting side point about the
- 5:59about the interaquerity about the about ribis.
- 6:03Sidbaye's mumur multer la havois of a ribis and mumur is is it's
- 6:08permitted to lend him the ribis, but also allows a man of a
- 6:13ribis. It's also to borrow from him
- 6:15from ribis. Now the question is why it's
- 6:19it's motor because they didn't have more reading, right, Just
- 6:22like we had just had the dinner of more reading.
- 6:24So Ribis is the same type of idea.
- 6:27It's serious enough to call it Meridian.
- 6:30It's the posit says and says that you get you learn someone
- 6:35Beribius, you're going ahead and destroying his life or it has
- 6:38the potential to destroy his life.
- 6:40As you know, people fall into debt and you know, we know, you
- 6:42know, it's it's a it's a it's a thing.
- 6:45And so therefore it's both. And so for Mummer, who's
- 6:50supposed to do Meridian and smoother to the Habos and
- 6:52Beribius because you're not Mitsuva say some set of because
- 6:59it says and a mummer. Mummer really doesn't have the
- 7:07dinner of Akifa. He has have a shame of it's only
- 7:11a bunch of whatever. However, it's also allows him to
- 7:15be Rebus because he's still a Jew and that's very you can't be
- 7:18over on this day either to Marshall him in in it's a Rebus.
- 7:22There's a general discussion about the liver.
- 7:25What's what's the issue of a liver to pay back Rebus?
- 7:29Is it like a is it? Is it a it's also for a Liva to
- 7:35pay Rebus or is it or is that it's just it's consure to the
- 7:38it's it's it's depends on the it's consure to the insert of
- 7:42the mall there that you're you're you're you are.
- 7:46You are Halek of his insert of lending by paying him back
- 7:49ribbies. You are just like we'll see
- 7:52later on that Adium and all these things are all.
- 7:55It's also for him to be involved in the transaction.
- 7:57You're also involved in the transaction by paying him back
- 8:00like Lopani over here. It's a it's definitely a the
- 8:03reason it's ulcers clearly because of the of of this Navy
- 8:06there Gavish Mahmirin after some say it's still also to to to
- 8:13lend them to the hacker and some say it's the hack mayor and also
- 8:22because it's he he has a shame. He he has a he's still the
- 8:25Israel and fully Israel. Therefore you should not he's
- 8:31not used to be a call. Therefore, it would be it would
- 8:34still be it would still be ulcer and I'm all says, therefore, you
- 8:37should you should be careful not to go ahead and lend to them.
- 8:40That's we're going to head to risk as much later on.
- 8:42But the Kopani doesn't especially here and there.
- 8:44It's as well doesn't we doesn't make a difference.
- 8:48You know, whoever you're lending to you should still miss a
- 8:50ribbons. You know Kusini Ishalam didn't
- 8:55No, no, because here it's OK. It's the main Childs are from
- 9:00going and throughout the Doris is about going air to swell and
- 9:04until and so therefore witness actually wasn't so learned so so
- 9:09strong because it's like, you know, basically, you know,
- 9:14whatever that but modern modern day with, you know, living in
- 9:20living with now we're doing dealing with business with other
- 9:23Jews. Jews are not from on a regular
- 9:25basis here here to swell. So therefore, if they're not
- 9:28from not this whatever, therefore you have to misiakage
- 9:31a lot to so say here and there to sell.
- 9:33It's it's still awesome. You know, you say, ah, he's a
- 9:35mummer. He's not from he's this whatever
- 9:38you want to call according to the rumor, he's still, you know,
- 9:41any transaction, you're a banker.
- 9:42You're this has to be done with has to be done with the
- 9:47guidelines of Ribbus Gilmo Kusini Ishalamdin Boomer levels
- 9:51Kuhavi here we're talking with the actual Kusim.
- 9:56They have a din of a mumer levels Kuhavim a Karayim Anlehem
- 10:01didn't mumrim. They don't have a din of of
- 10:03mumrim. They're also the voice of the
- 10:06Rebus. It's also to lend the money to
- 10:09the Rebus. The ain't also lavish also Lavos
- 10:12mahem Baribus. It's also, to borrow from them,
- 10:15the Rebus. Again, we're talking about the
- 10:18Karayim which are, which were from the time of the Rambam,
- 10:24which were a whole different sect and they're like the
- 10:26Stucchem and the whole question. Nowadays there's no Quran.
- 10:32Even if you heard of the Quran sect, apparently that the last
- 10:35actual Karan wiped out the those in the Crimea and they were
- 10:39killed in the Holocaust. The Nazis killed them.
- 10:42So they're like the nowadays. It's just they're not the real
- 10:45Koroi man, unless they're a few stragglers.
- 10:47Whatever the people in charge or not.
- 10:48It's just a weird cult. It's not it's not the actual
- 10:51Koroi that we're talking about over here, but we could talk
- 10:54about the similar thing is the Koroi is is is is used to also,
- 10:58you know, talk about people who didn't keep Torah missiles and
- 11:01their children and how do you miss the office to them?
- 11:04So therefore the din also so the the din would apply by that
- 11:07Hagava Ayan le comma. I in layers have designed
- 11:11Kukaftao din anusim. How do you done?
- 11:14How do you, you know, understand the dinner of Anusim with Tina
- 11:18Shinishba, the Ben of the Kukhovi and Tina Shinishba and
- 11:23he doesn't know anything about Thoris Israel Claude Dino
- 11:25Kukhoim is the same thing as a Koroim, but also the Havas of
- 11:29Arribis because you know, and you and you know he's Jewish,
- 11:32right? If he was, you know, you know,
- 11:34if you have to have proper useless of his mother, his
- 11:37mother, I don't know whatever, but I'll call Panim.
- 11:41He's called a teenage Chenishba and therefore it's answer to
- 11:48London Arabia. So the Haim Muteris mumeris as
- 11:53what it should be woman who became a change to a different
- 11:58religion and she has a son from Mary decoy Shahaban Harahu
- 12:03Kamoya, that he is Jewish. The Nikra Mummer, he's called a
- 12:08mummer also the Havaslo Baribis, it's also to lend him money
- 12:13Baribis, the Havocutina Shanishva, we know it's the same
- 12:17dinners like Shanishva, even though his father is not Jewish,
- 12:22he's still considered Jewish and therefore it's still it's still
- 12:25forbidden to to land him. One of the fiduciary over here
- 12:29is also we don't have to be that maybe you know that maybe you
- 12:33know that that that that we know that we can summit on her that
- 12:40it's it's her son and and therefore right.
- 12:50So like there was please go to Rabaz, who says he could take a
- 12:52sveka in Ben mumerzahu Mina ovskovim omumeris then muto la
- 13:01Havas verbius. It is a Suffolk.
- 13:03Let's say there's a mummer Mishuma who is married to, you
- 13:07know, he's married to Mishumedes, but there's a
- 13:09Suffolk about the parentage of the kid, about whether you know,
- 13:13whether he had another wife or whether he, whatever the case
- 13:16may be, says if there's a Suffolk.
- 13:19So then so then the he paskins that then you will be allowed to
- 13:23go ahead and lend the money with Rivas Fine Khusana, I'm going to
- 13:32start getting into the actual Hilfis Ribis olive.
- 13:36Sorry, Lazar be ribis. You have to we have to be very
- 13:39careful. If it was ribis a common lobby,
- 13:41never bone. There's many lobby which you
- 13:43mentioned feel hello. Even Hanois, not even the Liva
- 13:48who's giving the money, the RA and the RA via Aiden or even
- 13:53anyone who's involved in you go to a bank without a anteriska
- 13:57and you've signed on a loan. That's the person's over is over
- 14:00on a lav of of its erebius. And so therefore person should
- 14:04be has to be careful with that. There's no killer between
- 14:10whether you lend to an Oni or an usher.
- 14:16You still it's still over on a lav how the leyva ova daft could
- 14:21be ribis derisa. The lobe is only over the ribis
- 14:26derisa, ribis Durabanon and oeva elimination with naiver, but
- 14:30ribis durabanon he's only over because of loose naiver.
- 14:34So Lova has 2 has 2 Easter. He's over a lava of ribis in
- 14:39general and a lava if it's just this is Durabanon.
- 14:45So it's only it's only an isser. I was listening.
- 14:49I was listening either call, call Hanois saying call Hanois
- 15:01in the Rebus. Nahasov explained him.
- 15:03Anyone who learns the Rebus, he's not going to make money is
- 15:06Nahasim. Instead, he's only punished that
- 15:08his is Nahasim are going to fall apart.
- 15:11We're going to get lessened cough of a TSV trying it's
- 15:16Keeler who's Kaifen you'd see it's trying Obelo K Israel.
- 15:20It says any Hashem in the so came it's very strong iser 1 of
- 15:24the time. I I remember I I think that one
- 15:26of the reasons it's the time of the crowd a little bit why it's
- 15:29so it's so such a strong iser is that it's it's it shows a
- 15:35complete 100% lack of be tough on because a person you know,
- 15:39everything, every every business still has a bit of risk to it.
- 15:42So a certain amount of be tough on a person has or can have the
- 15:46that it should go through the Ribis is I have money and my
- 15:49money makes money. There's no, there's no and we'll
- 15:52see about this as we go along that if there's no potential
- 15:57loss by Ribis, if he doesn't pay back, but assuming he pays back,
- 16:01there's no potential loss by Ribis.
- 16:02It's complete. It's complete 100% Revah.
- 16:05So therefore, it's sort of kilu cutting out of the picture that
- 16:11you know that he's not he he you know that that you know that I I
- 16:16I have complete faith in my own money, in my own self.
- 16:20It's not and, and it's, it's, you know, it shows that he has
- 16:25no, he has no time of the crowd. A little bit.
- 16:31You'll see later on that there are issues of Ribis through a
- 16:35bottom where, where there is a, where one side, it has to, it
- 16:39has to be a, you know, if there's a, you know, if there's
- 16:42a point where there's only a little bit of risk, then it's
- 16:45called ribis where there's a lot of risk.
- 16:47It's not, we'll get into that much later.
- 16:49You know, the different types of types of deals.
- 16:53So therefore the IT you know the that does make a difference in
- 16:57the definition of of Ribis. That as as a lotion the lotion
- 17:08brings in the brace the brace in Indonesia.
- 17:11She was seeming motors what has been receiving motion being a
- 17:14hot home with the Russell Ms. Elu Elu Yoda.
- 17:20If motion new she revved up with over the hire closely.
- 17:24The lotion is is that if motion being a new how much money you
- 17:27can make off of Alpha rubies. He wanted to have written such a
- 17:30thing. It's the same it's it's a
- 17:34certain idea. So that that's the fear.
- 17:38That's the fear. Yeah, that's the fear.
- 17:43He does. I'm not just lending up the guys
- 17:46money. The marvel somebody from someone
- 17:49who lies and stuff. You know, whatever it says, he's
- 17:54going to turn his face towards him and and it's very, very it's
- 17:58a very Homoordan, but also because it says it's like a
- 18:00dash, it's like a it. It managed destroys people's
- 18:04lives. So that's why it's such a Hummer
- 18:07Hummerism, darling. I feel in my life in recently
- 18:10recently dietary Bishas Peron. Even if a lover gives extra,
- 18:15it's not it's not a deal, but you know, at the end, if you
- 18:17like, he gives he throws in a little bit extra Bishasapiro.
- 18:23So his e-mail wasn't wasn't mean.
- 18:26It wasn't an original part of the original loan.
- 18:30Ribis also here he is. I'm very easy from Ribis.
- 18:35I'm just gonna it's, you know, it's just a yeah, he has a
- 18:38little gift, you know, it's a little extra gift.
- 18:42You know, unless it's like we'll get into things, if it's, if
- 18:44it's something you normally give a gift to and that you can take
- 18:47a discussion and give it to your kids, things like that.
- 18:50But the guy who loans the money throws a little bit extra.
- 18:53It's also, it's also also Mitra Bonan that, that, you know,
- 19:02there's a Suffolk. I think if there's a, if there's
- 19:05a, if there's a Suffolk about how much if people don't realize
- 19:09how much you don't remember how much you owe, It's better to air
- 19:13like a little bit less than than more.
- 19:16But I do think that it's I don't think it's vomit or ulcer in
- 19:19that case is you're not you're doing it because of Suffolk
- 19:21Mama. We're going to get into that.
- 19:23You know that it's whether we'll get into a little bit later.
- 19:28But there's a Suffolk. I don't think it's ulcer, but I
- 19:31think it's better to to to give you know to put to put it.
- 19:37You know to put it lower for me. You in law.
- 19:40Hi, almost the other there Halva.
- 19:42If you didn't get the money there Halva rap there met her
- 19:45motor because I got now then it would be motor to go ahead
- 19:49'cause this is called ribis mujeres.
- 19:51Ribis mujeres on the ginder of banana.
- 19:53And so then it's like 00. Then we're not that.
- 19:59If he doesn't say that, I'm giving it to you because.
- 20:02You know, because he gave me a credit and you know, if he
- 20:05doesn't say anything, that's the thing, the Finnish isn't if he
- 20:08says it, it's also even still. But if he just said if he
- 20:12doesn't say anything, he just throws a little extra in, then
- 20:16that's going to be and that that would be OK.
- 20:20Hey, I feel you know, Amar Labi Shasta Ki has a ribis.
- 20:23I mean, there is still a Cabo Botana also the Cabo the menu
- 20:27guy says, listen, I'm not going to give you ribis.
- 20:29I'm going to give you a gift right, That's still also to take
- 20:33it as about to take it to take it from him in La Cucumena
- 20:37Ribis. It's our class 0 low.
- 20:41If if he actually took a loan to Ribis and like I said, he's
- 20:46tired because it's this is an actual monetary deal and a
- 20:50people should miss. But he's actually tired to
- 20:53return the money because this was the deal Aquaponium, but
- 20:56it's also to do it. No Ellis Machilo Lapatro.
- 21:00Come on, Poguezzo and Michaela. It's OK.
- 21:04You can be Michael the person. It's supposed to be Michael the
- 21:07the the Malva can be Michael the Loyva like any other gazzo that
- 21:13I'm sorry, he's allowed to. So the Loyva can can go ahead
- 21:19and be Michael Michael the money to the in the mouth, the
- 21:25lighter, the lighter can be money for the money.
- 21:27Just like any gazo. If he took the money already, he
- 21:29can be money for the money just like just like by Exela.
- 21:31And the law will give us extra money, right.
- 21:34So now the model needs to give it that No, even his no, even
- 21:40his no, even if they made it tonight.
- 21:43Well, it's gonna this is gonna be discussed later on more in
- 21:46detail is just a cloud that that also that the the the idea of
- 21:51Ribis is like gazel. The mark Pierce is a gazel
- 21:54taking ribis is like a Lakita. He's a gazel.
- 21:57He's taking money. He doesn't belong to him.
- 21:59So therefore he could still be my the love.
- 22:00He can still be Michael Matalama Sahabzir Ribis also even in
- 22:05Matalama Sahabzir, my Rebus is still awesome.
- 22:09So a person has to be careful never not to give any, not to
- 22:11give anything extra because Oh yeah, you know, as a just as an
- 22:16extra, he shouldn't toss him to give it.