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"25th Anniversary LIVE from Flight 93 Memorial" (FTTxJT Fri 091126 hr4) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 1: With your support, we will make our nation stronger, safer, richer, freer,
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  Speaker 3: Making mornings great again. First thing today on the Talk
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  Speaker 3: Media Network by Joe Thomas.
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  Speaker 4: Joe works at a steel mill, works damn near every day.
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  Speaker 4: Leaves for work when the sun comes up, drops the
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  Speaker 4: kids to school and on the way. Joe has everything
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  Speaker 4: he dreamed of, all the treasures that he needs. No
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  Speaker 4: wonder Joe's always smiling. He only aims to please you.
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  Speaker 5: Let me be your Joe.
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  Speaker 6: Bless you for letting me be of service to you.
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  Speaker 4: I want to be your Joe.
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  Speaker 2: Wherever we stick the.
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  Speaker 6: Flag into the ground, we're on the road this morning.
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  Speaker 6: A couple of on-location shows from the Big Ridge Guns
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  Speaker 6: and Archery Remote Studios.
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  Speaker 7: All right.
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  Speaker 6: He is our dear friend. He is a Waynesboro City Councilor,
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  Speaker 6: but also the owner of Big Ridge Guns and Archery
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  Speaker 6: and a veteran and actually just found out two-time veteran
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  Speaker 6: after September 11th went back to serve our country. Jim Wood. Jim,
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  Speaker 6: welcome back to the program. Thanks for supporting what we're
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  Speaker 6: doing here in Shanksville for the Flight 93 broadcast. And
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  Speaker 6: how are you doing? How's Big Ridge Guns now getting ready?
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  Speaker 6: I guess you're coming up on your first year anniversary soon.
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  Speaker 7: We are, and life is always good. God's been good
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  Speaker 7: to us, and business is good. People of Waynesboro have
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  Speaker 7: accepted us, and we're plugging right along.
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  Speaker 2: I had to chuckle.
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  Speaker 6: In Germany, they've had this alternative for Deutschland party. They
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  Speaker 6: didn't even win a majority. It's just they got a
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  Speaker 6: bunch of seats, so the press wanted to cover them.
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  Speaker 6: But the candidate or the chairman of the party said
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  Speaker 6: that Friedrich Merz is our best campaigner to get people
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  Speaker 6: to come out and vote for us. And I feel
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  Speaker 6: like Abigail Spanberger is still the best gun seller in Virginia,
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  Speaker 6: isn't she?
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  Speaker 7: Well, her and her 13 cohorts that got elected to
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  Speaker 7: the General Assembly this past time definitely increased gun sales
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  Speaker 7: in Virginia, without a doubt.
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  Speaker 6: Where is the case? Because I know that we've got
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  Speaker 6: the court case. New Jersey had it kind of struck down,
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  Speaker 6: and I'm just waiting for somebody in a robe to say, well,
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  Speaker 6: if New Jersey struck it down, so should we. Where
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  Speaker 6: is that case? Do you know anything more about it.
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  Speaker 2: Just as a tangent?
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  Speaker 7: Well, you know, everybody has their conspiracy beliefs and thoughts,
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  Speaker 7: you know, with the Supreme Court coming out and saying
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  Speaker 7: in their fall session that they would kind of definitively
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  Speaker 7: put where the AR or semi-automatics type rifles, where they're
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  Speaker 7: at in American history as the most popular firearm in
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  Speaker 7: America right now, that's going to take all the wind
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  Speaker 7: out of the sails of the anti-gun lobby saying that
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  Speaker 7: it is a military weapon. So I think because of that,
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  Speaker 7: a lot of the state officials and all have kind
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  Speaker 7: of backed off on it a little bit until we
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  Speaker 7: exactly hear what the Supreme Court has to say.
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  Speaker 6: So, Jim, let me follow up a little bit since
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  Speaker 6: we're here in Shanksville, September 11th and the 25th anniversary
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  Speaker 6: of it. Take us back to where you were, because
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  Speaker 6: I didn't realize that you had finished your military service
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  Speaker 6: and then went back again afterwards. So where were you
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  Speaker 6: and what kind of impact did it have to bring
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  Speaker 6: you back to active duty?
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  Speaker 7: Well, I was at home with my wife. We didn't
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  Speaker 7: even have a TV on at the time when it happened.
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  Speaker 7: My mother-in-law called and said, you need to turn it
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  Speaker 7: on now. And we turned it on just before the
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  Speaker 7: second plane hit the second tower. And, you know, my
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  Speaker 7: mind immediately went back to those old World War II
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  Speaker 7: vets who said wars are different now because, you know,
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  Speaker 7: in World War II, we were attacked.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 7: And I looked at that and saying, you know, thinking, well,
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  Speaker 7: here we are. Now we're being attacked. You know, where
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  Speaker 7: do we where do we go from here?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And people ask me, well, you know, what does terrorism
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  Speaker 6: look like? I said terrorism is planning to use two planes,
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  Speaker 6: one to get all the TV cameras turned on the
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  Speaker 6: on the towers and then the second one to make
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  Speaker 6: us all watch it live happen in.
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  Speaker 2: Front of us.
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  Speaker 6: You know, 25 years later, you know, a man who
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  Speaker 6: is a leader in his community and also a businessman
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  Speaker 6: in his community, selling firearms and self-defense and training. Is
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  Speaker 6: there a tangible difference in who we are? A lot
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  Speaker 6: of people like to make a lot of hay that
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  Speaker 6: we're different as a country than we were then. And
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  Speaker 6: some say for the better, some say for not.
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  Speaker 2: What is your view?
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  Speaker 6: Because I think you have a a finger on a
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  Speaker 6: particularly different kind of pulse in this country?
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  Speaker 7: Well, I kind of look at it as, you know,
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  Speaker 7: kind of two different chapters in a book. You know,
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  Speaker 7: folks who remember 9-11 and can remember where they're at
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  Speaker 7: and remember what they do, it did towards, you know,
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  Speaker 7: terrorism and, you know, our place on the world stage.
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  Speaker 7: But you got to keep in mind in the other chapter,
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  Speaker 7: there's a whole generation now that wasn't alive when 9-11 happened. And,
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  Speaker 7: you know, But the political attitudes have changed drastically because
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  Speaker 7: it seems like we go from one extreme to another. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 7: there is a large group of folks who are very
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  Speaker 7: focused on our place in the world, as well as
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  Speaker 7: them defending or being able to defend their family, because
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  Speaker 7: we've seen terrorism happen right here on our own soil.
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  Speaker 7: And unfortunately, in that other chapter, There's a lot of
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  Speaker 7: folks who kind of sided with, you know, the ones
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  Speaker 7: who really attacked us on September 11th. If you notice
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  Speaker 7: here recently in New York City, Mayor Bonboni, when he
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  Speaker 7: signed the resolution stating, you know, remembering 9-11, when he
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  Speaker 7: handed that ceremonial pen off that he signed it with,
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  Speaker 7: he handed it to someone who actually defended terrorists. a
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  Speaker 7: lawyer who defended terrorists. So it's two different mindsets in
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  Speaker 7: America right now.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I think a lot of it is that guilt
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  Speaker 6: trip that they're trying to sell, which is, you know,
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  Speaker 6: we did it to ourselves. Our support of Israel brought
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  Speaker 6: this on when really, you know, even if you go
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  Speaker 6: back to what Osama bin Laden wrote and said, it
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  Speaker 6: had nothing to do with that. It had to do
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  Speaker 6: with his, you know, zealotry and And the fact that
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  Speaker 6: his family had allowed Israeli pilots to fly out of
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  Speaker 6: Saudi Arabia. And it was just it was a personal
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  Speaker 6: vendetta wrapped in, I think, the raiments of something that
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  Speaker 6: was bigger than that. So to remember that and to
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  Speaker 6: think anything else of it, I watch these marches.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, gosh.
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  Speaker 6: In 2017, if you said anything bad about the Jewish community,
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  Speaker 6: you were expelled from UVA. And five years later, you
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  Speaker 6: say something bad about Jewish kids, and you're celebrated as
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  Speaker 6: a freedom fighter for the oppressed now.
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  Speaker 2: And so we can turn on a dime.
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  Speaker 6: Jim, as we battle with Iran, who is the mac
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  Speaker 6: daddy of all state sponsors of terrorism, isn't this the
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  Speaker 6: culmination of what I thought George Bush was going to
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  Speaker 6: do in 2002 when he said we're going to go
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  Speaker 6: find all the state sponsors of terrorism and bring them
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  Speaker 6: to justice?
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  Speaker 7: Oh, absolutely. I mean, you know, it amazes me. I've
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  Speaker 7: kind of jokingly in the past said that I think
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  Speaker 7: we're just nothing more than an experiment in somebody's Petri
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  Speaker 7: dish somewhere, you know, because of the way it can
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  Speaker 7: turn so fast. The fact that, you know, a so
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  Speaker 7: many thousands of, of young men. And, you know, when
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  Speaker 7: I went back into service after nine 11, you know,
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  Speaker 7: there was a lot of young men who couldn't wait
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  Speaker 7: to join and go and serve. Um, you know, and
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  Speaker 7: it just seems like while that portion of our citizens
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  Speaker 7: were going to do just that is to, to go
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  Speaker 7: root out the evil of terrorism. They took advantage of
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  Speaker 7: the void here in America and, you know, of corporate America,
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  Speaker 7: general society to set their motion, you know, set their
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  Speaker 7: plans into play to, you know, take over from the inside. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And it's, you know, the simplest truth. You know, you
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  Speaker 6: have a right to live your life. You just don't
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  Speaker 6: have a right to harm me while you're doing it.
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  Speaker 6: And it's the simplest concept of the United States. Jim
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  Speaker 6: Wood is on with us, owner of Big Ridge Guns
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  Speaker 6: and Archery, Big Ridge Guns. See something, do something is
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  Speaker 6: why we go to Shanksville. And I have certainly visited
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  Speaker 6: the Pentagon and I visited as a person, you know,
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  Speaker 6: the World Trade Center site. And they're both beautiful. And
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  Speaker 6: we don't choose Shanksville to diminish the losses and the sacrifices,
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  Speaker 6: certainly of the first responders that went into the towers
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  Speaker 6: and rescued people in the Pentagon. We go because it
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  Speaker 6: is a unique moment in America, at least modern America,
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  Speaker 6: where civilians of no particular unity or anything else realized
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  Speaker 6: what was about to happen with them and decided to
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  Speaker 6: do something about it reminder that in so many instances,
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  Speaker 6: something you do when you do gun training for civilians
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  Speaker 6: is we are our first responders more times than not, Jim.
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  Speaker 6: Talk about the impact of what those passengers did on
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  Speaker 6: Flight 93 and what should our lessons be from it?
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  Speaker 7: Let's roll up to be a war cry for everyone.
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  Speaker 7: You know, if people who don't know their history, who
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  Speaker 7: don't know what happened on that day, if you go back,
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  Speaker 7: one of the one of the phone calls that was
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  Speaker 7: made from the plane as they went to try to stop,
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  Speaker 7: because from everybody's understanding, that plane was originally intended for
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  Speaker 7: the White House. It was the White House or the Capitol.
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  Speaker 2: It was one of them.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah. And you could hear the man in the background yell,
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  Speaker 7: let's roll, because they were going to do whatever they
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  Speaker 7: had to do to stop it. And it foiled the plan,
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  Speaker 7: but it showed American spirit, what American spirit is when
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  Speaker 7: you're truly backed against the wall. And that should be
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  Speaker 7: the war cry everywhere. What those people sacrificed. for the
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  Speaker 7: safety of others, for our country, and in trying to
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  Speaker 7: save themselves as well. It shows when really tested what
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  Speaker 7: Americans can do. And we are going through such a
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  Speaker 7: test right now, a test no generation has ever seen
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  Speaker 7: in our country.
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  Speaker 6: It's a much slower moving one. And I think that's
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  Speaker 6: the problem. And people in my industry, we're We're profiting
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  Speaker 6: off of it. We're exacerbating it. I think we're wallowing
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  Speaker 6: in it in a lot of ways, and that's a problem.
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  Speaker 6: It was one thing to do a program and then
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  Speaker 6: have advertisers in it, but now the programs themselves are advertisements.
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  Speaker 6: Their narratives, their whole point for being out there, whether
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  Speaker 6: it's online or on TV or on radio, seems to
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  Speaker 6: be to sell you a point of view rather than
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  Speaker 6: just say, these are the great things about this country,
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  Speaker 6: let's get back to it.
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  Speaker 7: Well, we've lost such vision in that because of the
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  Speaker 7: education system. Our education system no longer teaches history. They
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  Speaker 7: don't teach some of the basic fundamentals that kids need
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  Speaker 7: every day to survive once they graduate high school and
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  Speaker 7: get out into the community. If we still taught some
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  Speaker 7: of those basic fundamentals, You know, we would probably see
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  Speaker 7: a lot different attitude in our country as far as
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  Speaker 7: the pride of what our country is. No matter the
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  Speaker 7: mistakes we've made, the gains have outweighed the losses in
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  Speaker 7: so many ways as what this country has done for
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  Speaker 7: the entire world.
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  Speaker 6: That's so well said. To that point, the gains outweigh,
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  Speaker 6: you know, and the gains that have been made even
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  Speaker 6: in response to the mistakes that were made 200 years
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  Speaker 6: years ago in compromises made, Jim, you know, you mentioned education.
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  Speaker 6: Somebody asked me about history classes and what they're teaching
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  Speaker 6: regarding September 11th. I said, at this point, I would
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  Speaker 6: be happy if they just took those 45 minutes out
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  Speaker 6: of the day and taught math longer and taught reading
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  Speaker 6: longer because, you know, we can teach September 11th and
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  Speaker 6: history if kids know how to read. If kids don't
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  Speaker 6: know how to read, I don't care what you tell
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  Speaker 6: them history is, they're not going to know it.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah. No, it's unfortunate now that our school system has
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  Speaker 7: gone to more of a social agenda rather than education.
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  Speaker 7: And we're seeing it every day. You know, there's always
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  Speaker 7: stories coming out from the big cities to the small towns.
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  Speaker 7: You know, the teachers who are with the social, you know,
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  Speaker 7: with the increase in social media, TikTok, Facebook, all that,
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  Speaker 7: that the teachers who are teaching their own social agenda
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  Speaker 7: in the classroom are And apparently they've lost the reason
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  Speaker 7: of why to be a teacher to begin with.
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  Speaker 6: You know, it's just I get the orders from on high.
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  Speaker 6: And here goes my part of that agenda. Jim, you're
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  Speaker 6: a younger fellow than I am, but I grew up
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  Speaker 6: in the 70s and early 80s. And it's amazing to me.
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  Speaker 6: And I've said this about the voting as well. You know,
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  Speaker 6: the more we make it easy to vote, the fewer
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  Speaker 6: people vote. the more we make this agenda about all
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  Speaker 6: these different lifestyles and things like that, I will testify
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  Speaker 6: under oath that we were a more accepting, more open-minded
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  Speaker 6: society in 1978 than we are in 2026. And that's
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  Speaker 6: the part that bothers me is all this time and
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  Speaker 6: treasure is being spent to try to, quote, make us
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  Speaker 6: more inclusive when I think we were a hell of
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  Speaker 6: a lot more inclusive in you know, 40 years ago.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, I couldn't agree more. You're not that much older
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  Speaker 7: than me. I hit a few of those decades myself,
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  Speaker 7: you know. And I agree with you 100%. You know,
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  Speaker 7: I came from a much more rural area, you know.
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  Speaker 7: And in the 70s and 80s, you know, when affirmative
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  Speaker 7: action came into play, it actually excluded people from being
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  Speaker 7: able to gain access to money for higher education. And,
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  Speaker 7: you know, you're seeing people who just– you know, who
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  Speaker 7: missed out on a lot as far as education goes.
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  Speaker 7: In my case, it was either the coal mines or
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  Speaker 7: the military, you know, because being a, being who I was,
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  Speaker 7: there wasn't, uh, and in a poor community, we just
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  Speaker 7: didn't have the, the, the government help that some people did, um,
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  Speaker 7: in order to get a higher education if we, if
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  Speaker 7: we took that route. So, um, you know, sitting back
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  Speaker 7: and being able to watch, um, how our country has, uh,
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  Speaker 7: devolved in some ways is so sad.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I think, you know, and if I may finish
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  Speaker 6: on this, just, and I'm not trying to get a
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  Speaker 6: penance for my industry. I think my industry covers the
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  Speaker 6: 5% that's on the fringes, and we're not seeing the
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  Speaker 6: 95% that is like you and me, just trying to
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  Speaker 6: get on with our day and, you know, serve our customers,
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  Speaker 6: whatever they may do or wherever they may are. So
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  Speaker 6: I think, again, it's on my industry to do a
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  Speaker 6: better job of talking about the other 95% than the
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  Speaker 6: 5% on the fringes.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I'll tell you, I heard somebody say one time
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  Speaker 7: that once upon a time, the great Walter Cronkite, speaking
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  Speaker 7: of your industry, made the comment on the nightly news,
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  Speaker 7: the war in Vietnam is lost. And the day after
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  Speaker 7: that was when things really started to change. And I
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  Speaker 7: think that was when people in the media really kind
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  Speaker 7: of got a view of how much impact they have
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  Speaker 7: and how they could skew that impact to the direction
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  Speaker 7: they wanted it to. And it was shortly after that,
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  Speaker 7: the advertisers then got into play, you know. And who
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  Speaker 7: was paying the most money in a lot of ways
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  Speaker 7: goes which direction. They're going to skew that story or
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  Speaker 7: get that next big... They want to be the big
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  Speaker 7: break when it comes to news and how they skew it.
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  Speaker 7: Because that brings the dollar.
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  Speaker 6: And as the great example, their ratings continue to drop
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  Speaker 6: and fewer and fewer and people watch and to their
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  Speaker 6: own peril. It's the way business goes. That's why radio
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  Speaker 6: still works because we're still right there with people. I
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  Speaker 6: think there's a compunction in radio to not lie because
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  Speaker 6: it's a little too immediate for that. And because it's immediate,
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  Speaker 6: people will immediately react to that manipulation. If they sense
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  Speaker 6: you're manipulating them, they hit a button and they're probably
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  Speaker 6: not coming back. So if I may blow my own
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  Speaker 6: industry's horn, it's that we are a little bit more
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  Speaker 6: responsive to not being you know, the pitch men for
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  Speaker 6: a narrative, you know, and when we become one, they
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  Speaker 6: get punished pretty quickly and then there's somebody new on
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  Speaker 6: the frequency. So if I may, but, you know, I
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  Speaker 6: appreciate everything that you've done for us, but, and hopefully,
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  Speaker 6: you know, we can always return and do as much
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  Speaker 6: for you at Big Ridge Guns and Archery, Jim, but
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  Speaker 6: you're in our thoughts. You know, when you went back,
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  Speaker 6: real quick, I didn't spend enough time talking about this.
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  Speaker 6: When you went back, You know, what what did you see?
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  Speaker 6: And you said you saw a lot of young people
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  Speaker 6: who signed up and said, you know, let's kick some
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  Speaker 6: ass there. And did you see that the the that
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  Speaker 6: enthusiasm that sort of the World War Two generation talks about?
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  Speaker 6: It's like, you know what? It's going to be hell.
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  Speaker 6: We're going to lose a lot of people, but we're
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  Speaker 6: going to overall make the goal happen.
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  Speaker 2: Did you see that when you were there, Jim?
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  Speaker 7: Absolutely. And that's something I've been working with locally. I'm
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  Speaker 7: actually speaking later this week on this in Harrisonburg, Virginia, about,
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  Speaker 7: you know, when I went back and honestly, I was
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  Speaker 7: I was thinking about it and I was thinking about
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  Speaker 7: it and heard a radio interview, funny enough. Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 7: of somebody talking about how they had met and talked
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  Speaker 3: Making mornings great again. First thing today on the Talk
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  Speaker 5: Joe works at.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you for enjoying a little bit of our visit
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  Speaker 6: with Jim Wood there as well. I'm not even sure
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  Speaker 6: what happened, but right at the end of our chat
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• 29:00
  Speaker 6: the same time at the Flight 93 airport. here in Shanksville.
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  Speaker 6: The ceremony is just getting underway. Prayers and folks are
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  Speaker 6: beginning the ceremonies that will lead up to, and we
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: will actually be in local break at 846 when the
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: first plane hit the tower, but we will commemorate with
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: a moment of silence before we finish this morning because
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: these planes are in the air and they're getting ready
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: to do the horrific things they did 25 years ago.
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  Speaker 6: Eddie was calling in earlier, uh so we figured we'd
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• 29:41
  Speaker 6: the 25th anniversary of september 11th uh eddie what's going
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  Speaker 6: on my friend.
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  Speaker 21: Uh good morning joe 25 years ago i was working
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  Speaker 21: morning of the 9-11 catastrophe, I was home planning on
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  Speaker 21: being in the office at 11. A friend of mine
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  Speaker 21: called me and said, have you heard the news? He said,
• 30:06
  Speaker 21: turn the TV on. So I turned the TV on,
• 30:09
  Speaker 21: and they were having a replay of the first plane
• 30:13
  Speaker 21: going in. And as I was watching it and talking
• 30:16
  Speaker 21: with him, the second one hit.
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  Speaker 2: That was the point.
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  Speaker 21: And it sent chills all over me.
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  Speaker 7: Well.
• 30:25
  Speaker 21: I was planning on being in the office at 11,
• 30:27
  Speaker 21: so I hit I-85 and started heading south. And just
• 30:33
  Speaker 21: as I got into the metropolitan area, we could see
• 30:37
  Speaker 21: Hartsfield Airport every day, incoming, outcoming. And the sky was empty.
• 30:47
  Speaker 21: And that sent the weirdest feeling over me that I'll
• 30:50
  Speaker 21: never forget.
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  Speaker 22: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 6: And that's the thing is that empty sky. We were
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: talking with the folks who were having the same issue
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: I was, which was that it was just such an
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: eerie feeling to not have any airplanes flying overhead. And
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: it just seemed like it was a longer period. And
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: it depended on where you were. The national grounding was
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: only two days long.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: But depending on.
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: Where you were, it was severely curtailed there. John, I
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: hope you're still listening. He said, why am I listening
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: to yesterday's broadcast? Which is good for me to know
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: that at least there was something on the air and
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: not just an eerie silence there.
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  Speaker 2: But, John, if you're still there, it was just.
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: The whole service went down right at 8 o'clock Eastern Time,
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  Speaker 6: so I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 2: But this is today's broadcast.
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  Speaker 6: And we were talking about, Eddie, you know, I feel like,
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  Speaker 6: and there's no way, you know, you can't go back
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: and say, well, what if this didn't happen, that didn't happen.
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: But I think we've allowed, especially as we don't have
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: intellectually honest conversations about Islam and about Israel, about the
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: United States, about, you know, what the American government is
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: supposed to do. We won't have those honest conversations because
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: everyone you try to have one with, you know, needs
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: to pick one side. I'll use that phrase. It's like,
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: you know, your family is from Ukraine. There isn't, you know,
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: all one side or another side in Ukraine. You have
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: to look at the whole thing. So, you know, my job,
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: my media people say, no, you just got to pick
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: the hashtag that you're going to march under and that's it.
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: And that's how, you know, these terrorists win is when
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: we allow ourselves to stop being able to have intellectually
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: honest conversations about life or death or, you know, even,
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: you know, what your rights are. Because as I said
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: to Bob Goode, It seems like political assassination is becoming
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: more and more popular, people getting beat up for their
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: political opinions. That's not the United States, and we can't
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: condone that. And too many people turn the.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Other way and say, well, that's their free expression.
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: And we have chicken little lawyers who won't stand up
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: for that stuff. Eddie, does that make any sense to you?
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: Because it makes a lot of sense to me inside
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: my head.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Yes, it does, Joe.
• 33:42
  Speaker 21: I tell you, there's one other thing I wanted to
• 33:43
  Speaker 21: add very quickly. 25 years after Pearl Harbor, I was
• 33:49
  Speaker 21: a sophomore at Albemarle High. All through my education, we
• 33:54
  Speaker 21: never learned anything about World War II at all. It
• 33:58
  Speaker 21: was almost, you know, current events because either the teachers
• 34:02
  Speaker 21: or the spouses that served in World War II.
• 34:05
  Speaker 7: So I feel exactly.
• 34:06
  Speaker 21: Like the people now that are in you know, in
• 34:10
  Speaker 21: that age group that never experienced it.
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: I had to educate myself.
• 34:14
  Speaker 21: And by doing so, I not only looked at the bombings,
• 34:19
  Speaker 21: but I went back and learned a lot about what
• 34:22
  Speaker 21: happened before and what happened after.
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: And that's the most important thing.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: You've got to do it yourself.
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, and that's when we were talking earlier
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: about the fact that there are schools that aren't teaching
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: September 11th. We were talking about that with George Allen,
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: who was a senator at the time, representing us up
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: there in Washington.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: And the idea that.
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: Schools, because they don't want to make it seem like
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: we're saying Muslims are bad. How have we lost the
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: ability to say these terrorists were bad? And they were hiding,
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: because to me, the point is they were doing greater
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: harm to the Islamic community because not only were they killing,
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: and they killed a lot of Muslims in the World
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: Trade Center towers, and they do across the Middle East anyway.
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: How is it we've lost, and I've talked to Zuhdi
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: Jasser about this, the ability to say by wrapping themselves
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: in this religiosity, this faux religion, We're doing this for jihad.
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: And I'm sure they believe it. I'm not saying they
• 35:35
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• 35:39
  Speaker 6: their chest. But how have we lost the ability to
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: say that's not the millions and millions of Muslims that
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: live in the United States that don't have a problem?
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: Every time something happens, I get calls from friends of
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: mine in the Islamic community saying, I'm afraid to go
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: out because people like me are up there saying, round
• 35:58
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  Speaker 7: Up, round them all up, send them out of the boat,
• 36:00
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• 36:01
  Speaker 6: And I'm like, okay, that is as idiotic as it
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: can possibly be. We need to look at what people
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: did on Flight 93 as the way you fight terrorism, Eddie.
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  Speaker 21: I'll tell you, that's some of the most heroic people
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  Speaker 21: in my lifetime. They made the first counterattack.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: But you can't, you know, see, the American way is
• 36:26
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• 36:29
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• 36:32
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• 36:35
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• 36:38
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• 36:44
  Speaker 6: If we want a country, and people talk all the time, oh,
• 36:46
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• 36:50
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• 36:54
  Speaker 6: soldiers on every corner saying, hey, where are you going?
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: Where are your documents saying you're allowed to go here?
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: They need to do that because of the nature of
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: what their world lives in. Their constitution is different than ours.
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: Ours is you are free to do what you want
• 37:11
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• 37:13
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• 37:16
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• 37:20
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• 37:31
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• 37:33
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• 37:38
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• 37:40
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• 37:45
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• 37:48
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  Speaker 3: First thing today by Joe Thomas on the Talk Media Network.
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  Speaker 6: That's what it sounded like 25 years ago today.
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  Speaker 8: Immediately there's speculation or cause for concern. This is the
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  Speaker 8: World Trade Center that was the center of a terrorist
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  Speaker 8: bombing some years ago. So the questions have to be asked,
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  Speaker 8: was this purely an accident or could this have been
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  Speaker 2: And then you got your answer. And then you knew.
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  Speaker 6: There really wasn't a question whether or not this was
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  Speaker 6: intentional when the second one... I remember being on the
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  Speaker 6: air and my news person came into the studio and
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  Speaker 6: said there was a private plane crash into the World
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  Speaker 6: Trade Center. And I said, there's not a flight pattern
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  Speaker 6: in America that has you flying over Manhattan Island.
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  Speaker 2: And I said it then.
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  Speaker 6: I said it at 8.49 or whatever it was. I said,
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  Speaker 6: that's intentional. There's no way a plane gets anywhere close...
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  Speaker 6: to the airspace over Manhattan. Kareem is on the line.
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  Speaker 2: Dr. Judy Kuriansky was supposed to join us.
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  Speaker 6: During that half an hour we were in the wilderness,
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: and I'm glad we had our Jim Wood chat to
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: get in on our local station, but I know that
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  Speaker 6: folks who were listening on the network, we were off
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: the bird for a little while, so we'll get everybody
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: in here before we have to go.
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  Speaker 2: Kareem, good morning, sir. How are you doing? It was
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: doing fine.
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  Speaker 6: Well, you know, traffic was pretty bad. I don't know
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  Speaker 6: if you were in northern Virginia, but it was pretty
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  Speaker 6: bad existentially on this day 25 years ago.
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  Speaker 3: It was.
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  Speaker 1: I remember hearing about the NSA being a traffic jam
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  Speaker 1: as they were told to evacuate on that day. It's
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  Speaker 6: Well, we didn't know where any more planes were. I mean,
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: that was part of the problem was we were trying
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: to get airplanes that were still two or three, even
• 46:33
  Speaker 6: after Flight 93 had crashed here in Shanksville, where we are,
• 46:37
  Speaker 6: that would take hours for us to finally get everyone
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  Speaker 6: on the ground.
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  Speaker 7: 4,000 flights a day, Joe.
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  Speaker 2: That is a lot to control.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: And thankful that we all have a common language that
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  Speaker 1: all the pilots and traffic controllers can communicate with.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. So what's on your mind before we go to Dr. Judy?
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  Speaker 1: Joe, I just wanted to say that, yes, we pass
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  Speaker 1: all those laws in a time of terror that we
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  Speaker 1: have closed bases on and come back from.
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  Speaker 7: We need to get rid of those laws. Anyway, Joe,
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  Speaker 7: you have a great day.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for taking my call. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, sir.
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  Speaker 6: A New York City police officer just.
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  Speaker 2: Went past us here. Dr.
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: Judy Kuriansky is on with us and a therapist, television
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  Speaker 6: host as well.
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  Speaker 2: Dr.
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  Speaker 6: Judy, I appreciate you taking some time out. And, you know,
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  Speaker 6: you've talked to a lot of people in the intervening
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  Speaker 6: 25 years. What is the most common thing that you
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: hear from people regarding how they feel, you know, their
• 47:41
  Speaker 6: mental state since 25 years ago?
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  Speaker 22: Their mental state, Joe, is still, I can't believe that
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  Speaker 22: this happened. It is infuriating, the sadness that I feel
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  Speaker 22: about all the people that were lost, the anger that
• 48:02
  Speaker 22: these wars are still going on, that there is still terrorism,
• 48:07
  Speaker 22: the frustration about what, this is a phrase I hear
• 48:11
  Speaker 22: so often, what is going on in this world? When
• 48:17
  Speaker 22: is this ever going to end? And then I still hear, interestingly, Joe,
• 48:25
  Speaker 22: from young couples arguing about whether they want to bring
• 48:31
  Speaker 22: a child into this world in the mess that we're in.
• 48:36
  Speaker 6: Well, we've seen historic drops in birth rates over the
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: past 25 years, but even the last five years, it's
• 48:44
  Speaker 6: ramped up. Judy, is there, you know, I've pointed to
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  Speaker 6: people who march under hashtags and think slogans are the answer.
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: And I caution people against looking for politicians who live
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: in the world of slogans and hashtags. You know, we
• 49:01
  Speaker 6: need to have broader conversations. I'll get calls from Muslim
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: listeners saying, every time something happens, I feel like I
• 49:09
  Speaker 6: have to watch out because people are going to blame
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  Speaker 6: me for what some radical did. There are ways I
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  Speaker 6: believe Americans can handle, and I think the reason we're
• 49:17
  Speaker 6: here at the Flight 93 Memorial is that the passengers
• 49:21
  Speaker 6: of Flight 93 taught us that when somebody tries to
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: do something, you know, we're the first responders. Is that
• 49:28
  Speaker 6: something you tell folks when you talk to them?
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  Speaker 22: Well, I'm very involved in the UN. You know, for
• 49:38
  Speaker 22: 22 years, Joe, I've been a representative there. And now
• 49:40
  Speaker 22: I'm actually an advisor to a government, the Sierra Leone.
• 49:45
  Speaker 22: So I'm very involved in all these issues at the
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  Speaker 22: Security Council about peace.
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  Speaker 7: And security.
• 49:53
  Speaker 22: And so I think that people have lost some sense
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  Speaker 22: of even trust in the system at the United Nations.
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  Speaker 22: But some of the things, in answer to your question,
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  Speaker 22: that I do every year is a World Interfaith Harmony Week.
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  Speaker 22: And even yesterday, there was a march in Brooklyn with
• 50:19
  Speaker 22: all faiths, Jewish and Protestant and Muslim. And I spent
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  Speaker 22: many years in the Middle East doing projects where people
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  Speaker 22: who are Arab and Israeli do things together, including children.
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  Speaker 22: So if there's a psychological principle that If you do
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  Speaker 22: something with someone you potentially think you hate or who
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  Speaker 22: is opposite from you or you blame and you do
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  Speaker 22: a project together, whether you clean the beach or you
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  Speaker 22: learn a computer or you make a movie or you
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  Speaker 22: cook a meal together, you drop everything. your hatred, and
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  Speaker 22: you really see that this is a person like me.
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  Speaker 22: So there's a lot of research about how that works,
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  Speaker 22: that hatred drops when you work together.
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  Speaker 2: That's so well said.
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  Speaker 7: And so I've seen, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Dr.
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  Speaker 6: Judy, unfortunately, we're up against the end of our program,
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  Speaker 6: but I wanted to get your thoughts on that. And
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  Speaker 6: that's so well said, and I appreciate your work with
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  Speaker 6: the U.N., And you echo something I said after the
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  Speaker 6: radio show host.
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  Speaker 7: Why?
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: Because he and I had started a relationship. We knew
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  Speaker 6: each other. He had been on my show. I had
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  Speaker 6: talked to him. We had exchanged conversations. So he knew
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  Speaker 6: I wasn't somebody that should be assaulted. I didn't think
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  Speaker 6: anyone should be assaulted, but it's exactly what you said.
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  Speaker 6: If we stay in our silos, we're going to get
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  Speaker 6: turned against each other more easily.
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  Speaker 2: Last thought?
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  Speaker 20: Ooh.
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  Speaker 22: Yes, you're absolutely right. I'm so glad you shared what
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  Speaker 22: that issue is. And one of the things, making music
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  Speaker 22: together is a really big thing. You know, one of
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  Speaker 22: my students and I wrote a song, Russell Daisy, who's
• 52:23
  Speaker 22: an international musician, and it's called The Towers of Light
• 52:26
  Speaker 22: that stands for the two towers, the light.
• 52:29
  Speaker 7: Beams that go up where the towers were.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: Where can we find it?
• 52:33
  Speaker 16: And there's a line in there.
• 52:35
  Speaker 22: There's a line in there that says, right now let's
• 52:38
  Speaker 22: honor the heroes who sacrificed all for our lives. There
• 52:41
  Speaker 22: must be a far greater purpose where love over hatred survives.
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