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#589 - K Camp Speaks on Being Independent, Atlanta, Putting a Face to His Brand & What’s Next · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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Speaker 1: into it, Butleg Cavs show Man. We got a special
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Speaker 1: guest here, my guy Fresh from Scottsdale, Arizona. Fresh literally
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Speaker 1: thank you for waking up today. Thank god, Kay Camp.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back, man.
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Speaker 2: I appreciate you. Man. What's head in?
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Speaker 1: How you doing man? New album, Just drop, Just drop.
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Speaker 2: Kiss six. I'm on tour right now, Kiss six Tour.
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Speaker 2: We selling dates out back to bad We got the
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Speaker 2: region tonight sold out.
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Speaker 1: We just yeah doing shit. It's crazy, man, Can you
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Speaker 1: kind of like I feel like you've kind of like
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Speaker 1: done this R and B hip hop thing at such
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Speaker 1: a high level and it's it's you know, I think
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Speaker 1: obviously like when you first came in, was you know,
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Speaker 1: cut Her Off and those type of records you like
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Speaker 1: kind of reinvented like what fans expectations of what they're
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Speaker 1: gonna get from K camp or facts.
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Speaker 2: I think I've been like that my whole career, even
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Speaker 2: with when Cutter Off and all that came out before I.
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Speaker 2: The records I had before that was a whole different
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Speaker 2: type of vibe, you know what I'm saying. So cut
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Speaker 2: Her Off was a whole new, whole new sound and
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Speaker 2: a whole new energy that I brought. And I just
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Speaker 2: always try to push the needle for it when it
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Speaker 2: comes to the music. So I feel like it's always
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Speaker 2: gonna change long as I'm in that studio. This shit
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Speaker 2: gonna always evolve and turn into something else.
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Speaker 1: Like I would say, like, would you say when you
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Speaker 1: do kiss like this, this, this this line of projects
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Speaker 1: that you have, is it something that you approach it
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Speaker 1: with where you're like, okay, is it a genre? Do
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Speaker 1: you feel like what you're doing is like it's is
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Speaker 1: that R and B slash hip hop? Like cause you're
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Speaker 1: obviously yeah, yeah, that I'm is such a vibe I appreciated, Bro.
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Speaker 2: I think I call it trapping B bro, trapping B.
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Speaker 2: I call it trapping B bro.
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Speaker 1: I like it.
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I just I just try
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Speaker 2: to blend all the world that I'm familiar with. You know,
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Speaker 2: I know I got a huge female fan base, so
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Speaker 2: I can't leave them out. And I've been doing this
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Speaker 2: kid serious, it's like two thousand and eleven, twenty ten
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Speaker 2: almost like so I feel like it just stuck with me,
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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, and is I couldn't even
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Speaker 2: get away from it if I wanted to, you know
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like, I feel like this is the
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Speaker 2: last one. I'm telling myself this is the last one,
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Speaker 2: like seriously, because I want to start something else. I
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Speaker 2: want to end it with a bang, like you know
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But we'll see where it go. So
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Speaker 2: this is the final one. Yeah, but I said that
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Speaker 2: about five to two though.
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Speaker 1: But I feel like once the fans start hitting you
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Speaker 1: and they're like yeah yeah.
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Speaker 2: But I'm gonna tell you why I dropped six though,
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Speaker 2: cause when I dropped five, I was within the scope
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Speaker 2: and I told myself I was gonna drop six when
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Speaker 2: I go independent. Now you're independent, yeah, I mean depend
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Speaker 2: I've been independence since twenty two, So I dropped that through.
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, my own situation, distrial situation
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Speaker 2: with Virgin Virgin. Yeah, shout out to Jack and shout
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Speaker 2: out Trent. You know what I'm saying. The whole team
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Speaker 2: over there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's big. So are you because I know
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Speaker 1: I know some folks who were kind of like working
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Speaker 1: with you behind the scenes in that uh deal? Was
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Speaker 1: that something? Because I'm sure you could have had your
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Speaker 1: picks from the Create music groups, they Foundation, every empires. Whoever,
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Speaker 1: what was it about the Virgin situation that was attractive
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Speaker 1: to you?
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Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie call that shit fell in my lab.
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Speaker 1: Bro.
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Speaker 2: You familiar with.
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Speaker 1: Music biers, Yeah of course, yeah yeah yeah.
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Speaker 2: So you know we was on tour with Gates, Well
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Speaker 2: we didfied, We did fied cities with Gates last year
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Speaker 2: and one of the last stops was like Knoxville, and
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Speaker 2: I had an at the party in Nashville, right, And
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Speaker 2: when we was in Nashville, my DJ was like, music
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Speaker 2: biz is in Nashville this year, and I remember he
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Speaker 2: went the year before and I wanted to go, but
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Speaker 2: I missed it. I think, I don't know what the
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Speaker 2: hell I was doing. So I was like, shit, let's
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Speaker 2: stay in Nashville. Let's the music bids, you know what
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Speaker 2: I'm saying. So we had no tickets, we had nothing.
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Speaker 2: We just put us to the hotel and finised our
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Speaker 2: way in the whole situation, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: New folks in the building and just got a room.
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Speaker 2: They was there, supposed to be sold out. We flirting
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Speaker 2: with the girl at the front there. She gave us
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Speaker 2: a room and ship. So we really finished our way
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Speaker 2: into music bids that year. And you know, going to
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Speaker 2: the seminars and shit, got a day passed and I
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Speaker 2: was walking upstairs in the ballroom and the guy stopped
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Speaker 2: me and saying, hey, UK Camp right, And I was
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Speaker 2: like yeah, He's like, I'm a fan of your music.
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Speaker 2: And I got an artist, and you featured one of
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Speaker 2: his songs and y'all doing it. Basically, it's the best
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Speaker 2: streaming song on aurum Me just dropped right and it
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Speaker 2: was ed. It was air Benicher was a Brian shafton.
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Speaker 2: You ran into Brian. Yeah, you know some you know something.
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Speaker 1: That's what I remember. I was on. I was on
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Speaker 1: a zoom holl with Brian about some shit and he's like,
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Speaker 1: I just got off a zoom call with the k
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Speaker 1: camp man. We're excited to be Yeah, I said, great for.
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Speaker 2: You, my dogs. So we ran into Brian and we
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Speaker 2: all connected, you know. You know what I'm saying, because
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Speaker 2: we was already working in independent play when I got
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Speaker 2: out of in the scope. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: Me and my business partner we running through our own distro.
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. We run the whole independent
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Speaker 2: play for reer, like on a serious level. So he
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Speaker 2: was impressed about what we was doing. Long story short
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Speaker 2: at the music bis, you know what I'm saying. He
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Speaker 2: kept in contact. He said, I want to help y'all.
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Speaker 2: He gave us three situations. Version was one of the situations.
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Speaker 2: I said, let's entertain it and we went back and
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Speaker 2: forth with the lawyers, and I got a great deal
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Speaker 2: out of that situation. I went up to La Jacqueline,
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Speaker 2: met the whole staff, and we've been running ever since.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy too, because like I feel like with
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Speaker 1: what they got going on, it's like, you know, if
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Speaker 1: you go to I won't even say names, but let's
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Speaker 1: say you go to Distribution Company A, they.
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Speaker 2: Might have a thousand artists, yeah for sure.
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Speaker 1: So for you to like really matter in the building,
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Speaker 1: like one to give you a project manager and probably
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Speaker 1: has like ten other things going. Oh god.
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Speaker 2: So it's like I think, I think I'm I wouldn'tay
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Speaker 2: I'm the priority, but I'm priority over there.
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Speaker 1: But I know, I know you are, Jacqueline and got
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Speaker 1: up out of there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jacqueline A. My I DN right now trying to
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Speaker 2: figure out what's the saying. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: So it feel good aheaded though, because I feel like
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Speaker 2: I ain't had it at Inoscope. For sure, I ain't
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Speaker 2: had it, you know what I'm saying. So this situation
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Speaker 2: feel better because you know what I'm saying. We plan
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Speaker 2: on were playing on levers this time. We already had
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Speaker 2: the foundation and levers so it's like at this point,
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Speaker 2: it's like a partnership, Like, you know, we know what
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Speaker 2: we're doing. We'd improve that. We can make money and
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Speaker 2: we can do this shit on our own. So now
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Speaker 2: this partner and just make this shit bigger.
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Speaker 1: What do you feel because you know you've done such
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Speaker 1: a good job of like building your flock. I say,
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Speaker 1: you have a pretty crazy fan base.
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Speaker 2: That's my floaters?
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Speaker 1: Is that what they call the call them your behaves?
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Speaker 2: I always wanted to be. It's just like it's working. Now.
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Speaker 1: feel like early on, like you had these bigger songs,
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Speaker 1: but the songs are bigger than you. Was it was
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Speaker 1: because you because you weren't like you weren't like running
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Speaker 1: around like around that time you had like fucking Migo's
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Speaker 1: running ruck get It shootouts like the world Star. You
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Speaker 1: were just you were just putting out hit record.
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Speaker 2: I was just putting out his and that.
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Speaker 1: Career songs were bigger than whoever k camp is. So
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Speaker 1: what was it that you were able to do that
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Speaker 1: you realized was making like traction and inroads when it
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Speaker 1: came to like grabbing these fans, and.
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Speaker 2: I had to get in front of it because that's
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Speaker 2: not that that wasn't the first time I heard it.
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Speaker 2: I heard that shit so many times, so it was
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Speaker 2: like one of them things like I had to you know,
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Speaker 2: you got to step back and figure out why the
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Speaker 2: hell is happening? You know what I'm saying? Why is
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Speaker 2: the song? Of course I make great music, but why
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Speaker 2: is the song bigger than me? And I had to
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Speaker 2: realize I wasn't in front of that camera enough, I
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Speaker 2: wasn't networking enough. I wouldn't be more personable, you know
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I'm a humble, low key too. I'm
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Speaker 2: a private nigga. I'll be at the crib, I'll be chilling,
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Speaker 2: I'll be vibed out, you know what I'm saying. So
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Speaker 2: I knew if I was gonna have to take if
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Speaker 2: I was gonna take the ship to another level, I
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Speaker 2: had to step in front of it. And that's what
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Speaker 2: I did. I start. If you go back to my
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Speaker 2: it's crazy because like a lot of my album covers,
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Speaker 2: I used to hide my face. I used to do
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Speaker 2: all type of ship. I used to be on some
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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Uh whatever they call it,
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Speaker 2: what they would writ intil the ship. You know when
10:23
Speaker 2: they what's it's a word.
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Speaker 1: But I can't think there you go or you just
10:27
Speaker 1: wouldn't be on it at all. You feel me and
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Speaker 1: hot chicks.
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Speaker 2: And I made the switch on I think the float cover.
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Speaker 2: I think that it's either before that or the Float cover.
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Speaker 2: I told myself each cover, if you go look at
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Speaker 2: all my covers, my face is on every single one,
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Speaker 2: like face face face face face face face face face,
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Speaker 2: And that was that was the thing. I was like, Okay, cool,
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Speaker 2: they gonna know who I am. I can't let these
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Speaker 2: records be bigger than me, and I think I I
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Speaker 2: think I caught up to it now, No, for sure,
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Speaker 2: I think I caught up to it. You know what
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Speaker 2: I'm saying. That's just time in the game for real.
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Speaker 1: Do you did you notice the difference between like the
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Speaker 1: hard ticket sales, like between this one. No, no, no, just
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Speaker 1: in general, like when you started to be more front facing.
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Speaker 2: Oh hell yeah, hell yeah, when I started stepping know
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, When I started moving around more and
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Speaker 2: just networking and popping out like when you know, the
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Speaker 2: fans start to see my personality a lot more and
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Speaker 2: they you know, of course, now obviously, shit, we in
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Speaker 2: real time right now. We don't tour right now. And
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Speaker 2: this ship, this ship selling how many dates you're doing
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Speaker 2: right now? We got twenty nine cities, I think a lot. Man. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 2: we only on day five, running it out, running it up, man,
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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. We sold out to read
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Speaker 2: like we were killing it Like I'm not surprised, but
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Speaker 2: I'm surprised because you know, I've been torn five years straight, bro,
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Speaker 2: and you know, it's been a process. It was at
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Speaker 2: a point where it was only fifty people in the
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Speaker 2: building and then turning one hundred people. You know what
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Speaker 2: I'm saying. You know, the process is just torn and
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Speaker 2: torn and putting that money up and not really coming
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Speaker 2: back with no financial results. But it's like, is it
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Speaker 2: shit working for real? You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: You If you come back it's a hundred one time,
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Speaker 1: the next time it's five hundred.
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You gotta but you gotta
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Speaker 2: keep You gotta keep putting that money. You gotta keep
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Speaker 2: taking that risk and betting on yourself. And you know,
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Speaker 2: I've been betting on myself this whole time, and I
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Speaker 2: fair find I finally feel like it's paying off.
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Speaker 1: One hundred for you? Man, is there anything that you
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Speaker 1: would You know a lot of artists they'll they'll sign
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Speaker 1: a deal and get their advance and you know, it
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Speaker 1: works out or it doesn't work out. I feel like
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Speaker 1: the major label versus independent thing, it's really just like
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Speaker 1: it's not a one, one shoe fits all type of situation.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: Sure, But what would be your advice to somebody who
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Speaker 1: maybe is contemplating whether or not they maybe they have
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Speaker 1: an option to sign to a major or they could
12:36
Speaker 1: continue to be independent and run it up with what
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Speaker 1: would be that piece of advice you could give give
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Speaker 1: someone like that.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna let these niggas know right now, this independent
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Speaker 2: space ain't sweet, or they selling on the internet making
12:47
Speaker 2: it shit seem like, Oh I just go independent. You
12:49
Speaker 2: can just pop off and make it mine, keep all
12:51
Speaker 2: the money. You know what I'm saying, That shit ain't sweet.
12:53
Speaker 2: Like I wake up every day every day and on
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Speaker 2: top of business and it's you know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 2: group check just it's it's it's a real business dog.
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Speaker 2: You got to really take yourself out of the artist's
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Speaker 2: mindset and become a real business man when it comes
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Speaker 2: to this shit. And if you don't got your business together,
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Speaker 2: if you can't really understand contracts and conversations that lawyers
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Speaker 2: are having or account is that like you can't, if
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Speaker 2: you can't understand the language, it's gonna be tough for you.
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Speaker 2: So my advice is, get on the internet, pick up
13:19
Speaker 2: a book, get on chat, GBT, figure out what publish
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Speaker 2: and mean, figure out what goddamn royalty splits, all this shit,
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Speaker 2: everything that come with this shit. You gotta really do
13:27
Speaker 2: your research. And it took me years to do. I'm
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Speaker 2: still learning shit like my lawyer text me some another
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Speaker 2: day and I was like, what the hell does that mean?
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying to put that shit in chat?
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Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying, Just it's a never
13:36
Speaker 2: ending process of learning, but if you get in this space,
13:38
Speaker 2: it can be very lucrative if you know what the
13:40
Speaker 2: hell you're doing. But independent spaces just not no just
13:43
Speaker 2: no layup, Like I'm about to just jumping the shit
13:45
Speaker 2: and just win.
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Speaker 1: How important is the pub side because I feel like
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Speaker 1: artists don't. It's like that's like trigonometry or yeah, arithmetic
13:52
Speaker 1: to a lot of artists. It's like the publishing shit
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Speaker 1: is so confusing.
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Speaker 2: It is, but it ain't. You know what I'm saying
13:57
Speaker 2: it Like it was confused to me at first, so
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Speaker 2: I can so I tell you point, it is confusing,
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Speaker 2: but once you figure it out, it's just extratreme and income.
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like it's just your songs.
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Speaker 2: There's like mechanical woryaltyaster but like yeah, the mechanical words,
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Speaker 2: Like I don't want to say it wrong, but it's
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Speaker 2: like you know radio then you got It's like it's
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Speaker 2: a whole bunch of shit, man, it's like it's it's confusing
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Speaker 2: as fun. You're right, that's your confusing hell. But you
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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, it's just you got to just
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Speaker 2: get somebody to collect and add in your ship and
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Speaker 2: just you know, have a good relationship with that person
14:27
Speaker 2: and she can like what I do with my publisher
14:29
Speaker 2: shout out to temmy. You know what I'm saying, Like anything,
14:31
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'd be like, hey, what what is this?
14:33
Speaker 2: What is it? What is it? What does that mean?
14:34
Speaker 2: What does that mean? How does that work? Just you
14:36
Speaker 2: just learned by day? But that check getting cleared, you
14:40
Speaker 2: damn well published me? You know check.
14:43
Speaker 1: You know a lot of artists have been selling catalog lately. Yeah,
14:46
Speaker 1: is that something that you've entertained it all or what? Yeah?
14:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had before, probably two or three years ago,
14:51
Speaker 2: but it wasn't enough for me. It wasn't enough to like,
14:54
Speaker 2: I want to get all my ship? Just be good.
14:56
Speaker 1: Did you tell anything? No?
14:57
Speaker 2: I got all my ship? Yeah? I was.
15:00
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I guess it really depends
15:01
Speaker 1: on where you are, right. It's if you need to
15:03
Speaker 1: hit a lick, That's what I'm saying.
15:04
Speaker 2: If you need it, yeah, sell it. You know what
15:05
Speaker 2: I'm saying, to use that money to flip it. But
15:08
Speaker 2: but if not, if you don't need it, like you
15:09
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Because I order the catalog the
15:11
Speaker 2: more it's worth. And I just went independent, what three
15:13
Speaker 2: years ago, so my kettle, my independent catalog only three
15:16
Speaker 2: years old. So I want at least wait till it's
15:18
Speaker 2: like eight or nine years old. You know what I mean.
15:20
Speaker 2: You keep running it, keep running out. You know, it's
15:22
Speaker 2: like compound interest. The more I dropped, the more, you
15:24
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. My next move is you know
15:27
Speaker 2: how that Jacqueline and you know what I'm saying, bringing
15:29
Speaker 2: some bringing some artists and really turning you know what
15:31
Speaker 2: I'm saying, turn the whole system up and creating a
15:33
Speaker 2: whole you know, whole little movie like some Quincy Jones shit,
15:37
Speaker 2: like I'm on some to Maine appreciate next, you know,
15:39
Speaker 2: just trying to turn the city up.
15:41
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, uh, I know, you know, working
15:43
Speaker 1: with Brian and those Virgin guys, but probably want you
15:46
Speaker 1: to do your own distribution company, knowing we already got
15:49
Speaker 1: our own. Sure are you bringing artists on board to
15:51
Speaker 1: kind of like help them out?
15:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I'm with it all. You know what
15:54
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, you know, this game get triggered. You
15:57
Speaker 2: know how hard this game is and ship so and
15:59
Speaker 2: I know how bad I had it in this motherfucker
16:01
Speaker 2: when I had my deal. So what I'm trying to
16:04
Speaker 2: do is just I need somebody who can just work
16:05
Speaker 2: harder than me. Man, and I understand the business. I
16:07
Speaker 2: don't want to babysit nothing, don't. I want somebody who
16:10
Speaker 2: just is Benes first, music, not business, well Benness first,
16:14
Speaker 2: for sure, business first, Benes first. You know what I'm saying.
16:16
Speaker 2: But talented as a motherfucker, know how to maneuver to
16:18
Speaker 2: this game because the ship get tricky, and it can
16:20
Speaker 2: it can it can fuck you over if you don't
16:21
Speaker 2: know what you're doing. So that's what really what I
16:23
Speaker 2: be looking for. Bro.
16:25
Speaker 1: You got some big features on this project. Shout Ari
16:27
Speaker 1: Lennox is on.
16:28
Speaker 2: There, y Hi. Yeah, those some last minute motherfuckers.
16:33
Speaker 1: That was Carolina Homie Joe true Font. Shout to him,
16:35
Speaker 1: Shout out Joe. You know Joe all time white white
16:38
Speaker 1: right there, Joe need to start cussing or something. It's
16:40
Speaker 1: a white guy was sold. We got to shout him out.
16:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, he need to start cussing. Joe, you
16:44
Speaker 2: need to start cussing, But you're gonna get all of him.
16:45
Speaker 2: You start cussing. He don't cuss.
16:47
Speaker 1: He doesn't cuss. Hell, Now, good for him. That's a
16:50
Speaker 1: tough thing to pull off from me.
16:51
Speaker 2: You don't, cause I ain't never heard Joe said cuse I.
16:53
Speaker 1: Mean my kids school letting fucks fly. And my wife
16:56
Speaker 1: looks at me like, are you fucking And I'm like, dude,
16:59
Speaker 1: my bad living fly for that's why you shouldn't bring
17:02
Speaker 1: me to this ship.
17:02
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying telling me, But nah, we
17:04
Speaker 2: got some great features.
17:05
Speaker 1: What was the last one that you said? There was
17:06
Speaker 1: something at the finish line? What was what? Ari?
17:11
Speaker 2: That was the last one? That was That was the
17:13
Speaker 2: last one that she had sent me the idea through
17:16
Speaker 2: a text and I was like, man, cut that. I
17:18
Speaker 2: want to put it on my album, and she cut
17:20
Speaker 2: it and sent it to me. I did that verse
17:21
Speaker 2: at the same day. I sent it to k the
17:23
Speaker 2: Ky engineer. He mixed the whole album. I sent it
17:25
Speaker 2: to Ky he mixed it up. That was the last one,
17:27
Speaker 2: and before that it was it was tie. Yeah. I
17:32
Speaker 2: had flew to La during what.
17:33
Speaker 1: Was the BT sounds about right June.
17:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, I seen him in I had seen him in
17:37
Speaker 2: that one club with Sean Baron and Leon Thomas, and
17:40
Speaker 2: I text Sean it's like, hey, set up a session.
17:42
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I'm in time trying to
17:43
Speaker 2: finish the album. And we put him on TI ship
17:45
Speaker 2: and I did that early morning. He noted his verse
17:48
Speaker 2: out like every feature was like clutch.
17:51
Speaker 1: But so you and Ari were texting. She's like, yeah,
17:53
Speaker 1: I got this idea and You're like, yeah, I need that.
17:56
Speaker 1: I need it because she wrote the song. It was
17:58
Speaker 1: called Floating.
17:58
Speaker 2: I was like, ship per you already know.
18:00
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19:01
Speaker 1: to the podcast. Are you pretty like, uh, you know
19:05
Speaker 1: accessible when it comes to like maybe for artists wanted
19:07
Speaker 1: the verse from you and they're dope, like.
19:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldnt tay, I wouldn't say too accessible, But
19:11
Speaker 2: if I fuck with it, I'm gonna find it. Yeah,
19:13
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I don't really if somebody
19:15
Speaker 2: send me some ship like hop on this, they gotta
19:17
Speaker 2: be just the cold of song.
19:18
Speaker 1: But take set up someone to say you meet meet
19:20
Speaker 1: somebody at an afterparty and they're like.
19:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually did that. I I I met somebody
19:23
Speaker 2: at a gun range. I'll be at the gun range
19:25
Speaker 2: all the time, ship, and I'm gonna tell you crazy
19:27
Speaker 2: as story. So you know I was. I was going
19:29
Speaker 2: to gun range like four five times a week, and
19:32
Speaker 2: there was this dude in there. You know, he say
19:34
Speaker 2: he was cousins with the artists from Atlanta that I'm
19:35
Speaker 2: real cool with. You know what I say, everybody wrap
19:37
Speaker 2: in the city. Of course, you know what I'm saying.
19:39
Speaker 2: So he was like, yeah, man, you gotta hear my ship.
19:40
Speaker 2: And I was like, yo, i'mna fuck with you. I'm
19:42
Speaker 2: gonna tap in. So after like two weeks of him
19:45
Speaker 2: saying that ship, I was just in a mood to
19:48
Speaker 2: hear the ship today. I was like, bro, just send
19:50
Speaker 2: it since my email so you know what I'm saying.
19:54
Speaker 2: Me and my security leaving the gun range, I get
19:55
Speaker 2: in the car, I just play it and we like
19:58
Speaker 2: getting the but I got doors open. I'm just playing
19:59
Speaker 2: a lot out and this ship came on. I was like, boy,
20:03
Speaker 2: this ship hardest fuck is that? Rolling and rolling and
20:06
Speaker 2: rolling and rolling. This ship was so all right. I
20:09
Speaker 2: went back in the gun range, like, hey, where he at?
20:11
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Where you at? But he
20:12
Speaker 2: was about to get off. I had to go find him.
20:14
Speaker 2: I said, I'm gonna do your verse a night, bro,
20:16
Speaker 2: and he was like, you for real? I did the verse.
20:19
Speaker 1: He charged him.
20:20
Speaker 2: I ain't charged him nothing, that's do. And he tried
20:22
Speaker 2: the project. He was probably he was about to try
20:24
Speaker 2: to put the song on the project. I said, don't
20:25
Speaker 2: put it on the project yet, just save it, do
20:27
Speaker 2: it right, and then put it out. But there's the
20:28
Speaker 2: song so hard, this project hard. His name tight shout
20:30
Speaker 2: out Tighten man.
20:31
Speaker 1: That's fire.
20:32
Speaker 2: You never know, You never know. There's a lot of
20:35
Speaker 2: talents in, you know, saying motherfuckers out here. You just
20:37
Speaker 2: got to take the time and just whatever you like
20:39
Speaker 2: is what you like.
20:40
Speaker 1: But I met an artist who was a waiter at
20:44
Speaker 1: outback See and then I ended up signing him. That's hard,
20:49
Speaker 1: And then I ended up selling his record deal to
20:50
Speaker 1: Matt Cook from Ethica, who ended up signing him.
20:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got something, he was fire, he was he
20:57
Speaker 2: got some right, But you just never know, never know,
21:00
Speaker 2: brocause pay for my whole bill.
21:02
Speaker 1: He's like he was our waiter and then he's like, oh,
21:04
Speaker 1: by the way, I took care of your bill, and
21:05
Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you mean? Yeah? Yeah, it's like
21:08
Speaker 1: I'm an upcoming artist. When you was you know, when
21:11
Speaker 1: you were in Saint Pete, h I used to listen
21:13
Speaker 1: to you. I was like, sem me your link, bro,
21:16
Speaker 1: you bought me dinner being my family dinner. It's like
21:18
Speaker 1: six of us.
21:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what he was doing. That's a good little.
21:24
Speaker 1: Let's strategic play right there, one hundred percent. Man, who
21:27
Speaker 1: in your opinion in Atlanta right now? Because I do
21:31
Speaker 1: feel like Atlanta is you know j I D just
21:34
Speaker 1: dropped offset album, just dropped, you just dropped? Who are
21:39
Speaker 1: you paying attention to?
21:40
Speaker 2: That?
21:40
Speaker 1: Just kind of on the younger side of things in
21:41
Speaker 1: the city.
21:43
Speaker 2: On the younger side in the city right now. You know,
21:49
Speaker 2: I'm gonna always do home team artists called a little
21:51
Speaker 2: crank from my side of town.
21:53
Speaker 1: Okay, tough might be the most Atlantic name of all time,
21:57
Speaker 1: Little crank for sure. Yeah, what do you listening to
22:00
Speaker 1: right now? Like, just in general albums, it's been dropping
22:03
Speaker 1: that you've been bump to.
22:04
Speaker 2: See what I got right now? Man, I'm always bumping.
22:06
Speaker 2: I got some little shimmy here. I got some Newty,
22:08
Speaker 2: I got some cash cot Bang, I got.
22:11
Speaker 1: That's a little shit.
22:12
Speaker 2: I got me. I got a Metro new I got
22:14
Speaker 2: the Money, I got Sniper, I got kodak.
22:16
Speaker 1: Yo the Metro album I love. I don't know what
22:18
Speaker 1: like like, I don't understand what the disconnect is from
22:22
Speaker 1: people loving this album. Disconnect Young DROs On there wrapping
22:27
Speaker 1: his fucking.
22:28
Speaker 2: Disconnected is if you wasn't part of that era in
22:31
Speaker 2: the city, you're not gonna get it.
22:32
Speaker 1: I just don't. I like, got on a plane the
22:35
Speaker 1: night had dropped out of a Red Eye and I
22:37
Speaker 1: downloaded the whole tape and I was on the plane
22:39
Speaker 1: and I was like, Jesus.
22:40
Speaker 2: This is like it's like it's like that old Atlanta.
22:42
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Speaker 1: so many artists that are from that era that like,
23:33
Speaker 1: you know, I just always wonder, like what happened to them?
23:38
Speaker 2: By business?
23:38
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Business, Like what happened to
23:41
Speaker 1: Like the shop Boys party hard. You know what I'm saying, Like.
23:46
Speaker 2: Cry Boys Hard, they still be around. I'll be saying them,
23:49
Speaker 2: I see you know what I'm saying, You still see
23:50
Speaker 2: everybody in the city. You know what I'm saying. Some
23:52
Speaker 2: of them ain't groups no more. Someone went solo, you
23:54
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like the Travis.
23:57
Speaker 1: Porter was so massive, Like they have so many big.
23:59
Speaker 2: Bucket They got a lot of big ones. I still
24:01
Speaker 2: quiz all of my dogs, like I see them. I
24:04
Speaker 2: think they're on that album there going crazy. They got
24:07
Speaker 2: some schooling on there. Everybody on there. Ship the whole
24:09
Speaker 2: city on that, not the whole city, but the majority
24:12
Speaker 2: of the city on the walk on there. Yeah, Rosco
24:15
Speaker 2: on the whole there. Yeah, I hold Atlanta. I love
24:19
Speaker 2: trying to Metro for doing that. Try to spins.
24:22
Speaker 1: Missing the Young l A feature though he on there?
24:25
Speaker 2: Is it? Yeah?
24:26
Speaker 1: I missed that's on there here on one of them,
24:29
Speaker 1: I don't know. And I did you see how like?
24:31
Speaker 1: And and I just got like and I.
24:32
Speaker 2: Turned them up and I put the money in there.
24:34
Speaker 1: Spend the block. Did you see? Yes?
24:35
Speaker 2: It did. I forgot how it went.
24:37
Speaker 1: Viraul, I don't know how.
24:38
Speaker 2: Actually I do know shout Nart and b Nar and
24:43
Speaker 2: b you know what I'm saying. They was working with
24:44
Speaker 2: uh uh l a. Who else was in there? Uh
24:51
Speaker 2: Young Ralph? They were They were just you know, I'm saying,
24:53
Speaker 2: putting content out every day with l A l A
24:56
Speaker 2: Alley boys. They were just they just had the content, man, Yeah,
24:59
Speaker 2: they had the content going. I think it just cracked over.
25:01
Speaker 2: I think the algorithm just cracked over and just ain't
25:04
Speaker 2: I just caught a whole another wave and you know,
25:06
Speaker 2: turned them back up. Shout out to that. I like that.
25:08
Speaker 2: Shout out to beating my brothers.
25:10
Speaker 1: You're somebody who worked with like the Maribas of the
25:12
Speaker 1: world pretty early, Maribas, Mariba the singer.
25:16
Speaker 2: Oh Mariva, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that.
25:19
Speaker 1: Whole crew out of Atlanta, the Spirit Village Crew. J
25:21
Speaker 1: I d It's black, It's Mariba Earth Gang, all these guys. Yeah,
25:26
Speaker 1: how dope? Is it kind of been to just see
25:28
Speaker 1: that movement like it's been.
25:30
Speaker 2: It's been. It's been cool to see because Atlanta got
25:32
Speaker 2: so many damn flavors and so many goddamn lanes that
25:36
Speaker 2: anybody can shine in their own right. Like with Mariva.
25:39
Speaker 2: We go back from a cons in the same writing camp.
25:43
Speaker 1: Crazy.
25:44
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. This is back when before
25:45
Speaker 2: I got signed, before I had anything going on, we
25:48
Speaker 2: used to all right together and you know, con used
25:50
Speaker 2: to take us to Orlando and in two weeks chefs
25:54
Speaker 2: writing camp students. That's a time lucky. They used to
25:58
Speaker 2: be there. Asian. I don't know if you know Asia,
26:02
Speaker 2: but she spelled it kind of different. There's a lot
26:04
Speaker 2: of folks that's in the game still. That was a
26:07
Speaker 2: part of that. Sorry the kid.
26:09
Speaker 1: He's fire man. Yeah, got a whole podcast. Shot.
26:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got, he got, he got. He was just
26:13
Speaker 2: with us last night that the club, your club with
26:15
Speaker 2: us was he was outside almost fluent for it. Man,
26:18
Speaker 2: he should have the show was crazy. That the show.
26:21
Speaker 1: Unlike you, I'm not capable of waking up and being
26:24
Speaker 1: in LA the next day.
26:25
Speaker 2: We gotta do it. Yeah, I got the glass and.
26:29
Speaker 1: Then I was supposed to do j I D after you,
26:31
Speaker 1: and then j I D is rescheduled the next week.
26:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jed my dog. When I first mate Jed, we
26:35
Speaker 2: was hooping with fairly failing them and Jed came in
26:38
Speaker 2: the gym with a patron bottle. Then he who drunk hell.
26:41
Speaker 1: On the sideline just drink and watch.
26:44
Speaker 2: At first I made shot je man. Proud of you, bro?
26:47
Speaker 1: Are you good at basketball?
26:48
Speaker 2: Yeah?
26:49
Speaker 1: Like how good?
26:49
Speaker 2: Though?
26:49
Speaker 1: Like did you play?
26:50
Speaker 2: Yeah? I play. That was basketball before I was music. Like, uh,
26:54
Speaker 2: I didn't play college ball. I brought my ankle twelfth grade, damn.
26:57
Speaker 1: In some of the league.
26:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that kind of.
26:59
Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy because like my son plays at
27:01
Speaker 1: AAU and I feel like these kids play so much basketball.
27:04
Speaker 1: By the time they get to wherever they're going, uh huh,
27:06
Speaker 1: they burned out. Well it's like China. It's you know,
27:10
Speaker 1: it's like I feel like, you know, like you see
27:12
Speaker 1: all these like dudes getting injured now by getting because
27:16
Speaker 1: they've been fucking playing they were eleven years old.
27:18
Speaker 2: That's true. It depends on how.
27:21
Speaker 1: Crazy basketball it used to be. Like you you make
27:24
Speaker 1: your middle school team, uh huh, and then it was over,
27:27
Speaker 1: uh huh. And then you'd be like, I'm a try
27:29
Speaker 1: out freshman year.
27:30
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
27:31
Speaker 1: Now it's like, ayo, you're eleven, I'm gonna put you
27:34
Speaker 1: with the.
27:35
Speaker 2: Team needs to be out of there about eighteen nineteen.
27:38
Speaker 2: But nah, it's a whole different game. Man. It's ship
27:40
Speaker 2: I don't demo tapped in to me.
27:42
Speaker 1: But now now that you're fully indy, are you already like,
27:46
Speaker 1: I mean, you could drop on you want so this album.
27:48
Speaker 1: You obviously put a lot of effort into this album.
27:50
Speaker 1: You're touring it, but are you like, like, are you
27:51
Speaker 1: able to kind of like are you playing out the
27:54
Speaker 1: next twelve months? You already have the next album figured out?
27:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got I got a lot of music, bro,
27:58
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, ain't not just the craft
27:59
Speaker 2: of music can put it all together. I stay in
28:02
Speaker 2: the studio, of course, I got to stay in the studio.
28:04
Speaker 2: But I want to take a different approach next year.
28:06
Speaker 2: I want to go just just more on the brand, inside, lifestyle,
28:09
Speaker 2: just front end side of it. You know, I be
28:11
Speaker 2: in the studio twenty four seven. I put my heart
28:13
Speaker 2: and soul into the projects. It's like, Okay, I want
28:16
Speaker 2: to take a different approach. Still stay in the studio. Still,
28:18
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, shop, I goddamn sword, but
28:21
Speaker 2: just be on the front end of it a little more,
28:23
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Like, like we were talking
28:24
Speaker 2: about earlier, just not letting these records be bigger than me.
28:27
Speaker 2: I'm trying to be bigger than I'm trying to the brand.
28:30
Speaker 2: Just push it out there even further. So that's my plan.
28:32
Speaker 1: What about Uh do you do writing for other artists? U? Nah?
28:38
Speaker 1: Like what You've never written this? I've written and been like, man,
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Speaker 1: I can't see this.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a lot of shit like that.
28:43
Speaker 1: I know someone who can.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't like writing. I just seen a
28:48
Speaker 2: clip pop up on my tip took the other day
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Speaker 2: when I said some shit like this. It was just
28:53
Speaker 2: I don't want to be in no studio session with
28:55
Speaker 2: a thousand riders trying to get a placement for Beyonce Rihanna.
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Speaker 1: Well you're definitely beyond that, yes.
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Speaker 2: Exactly, but still I got I got an r that
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Speaker 2: be calling me like camp, you come in and get
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Speaker 2: the writers camp. Like, bro, I'm not doing that ship.
29:07
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Compound in your room. I
29:11
Speaker 2: love writing camps and ship, but it's ours. It was
29:13
Speaker 2: mine and my my team is bringing your people and
29:16
Speaker 2: bringing my people and were working on this up.
29:18
Speaker 1: You tell me what you're looking for and then I'll
29:19
Speaker 1: handle it on my send you some options.
29:22
Speaker 2: But like, if I'm not in the studio with beyond
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Speaker 2: s and all these big artists like one on one
29:26
Speaker 2: and we're working, I don't want to do that ship, right,
29:28
Speaker 2: I don't do that ship. I'm past that, you know
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: I feel like the producer game is the same way.
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Speaker 1: I'll be telling these like these producers, I'm like, man,
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Speaker 1: don't chase placements, find the artists.
29:36
Speaker 2: Find artist and attached to them and grow with them
29:38
Speaker 2: and give them their sound, give they sound. That's what
29:40
Speaker 2: I'm doing next. No I produced too. I produce like
29:42
Speaker 2: five six on the album Fire. I produce my last
29:45
Speaker 2: thing I produce spend the Block. I've been on a
29:47
Speaker 2: whole different level when it comes to this music. What
29:49
Speaker 2: are you using your NPC? Oh?
29:52
Speaker 1: So you're on the.
29:54
Speaker 2: Playing It was tedious at first, but that'sh it fun.
29:57
Speaker 1: I just love just you ever take the there's like
29:59
Speaker 1: the portable one that you can trymall the one.
30:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need it, matter of fact, I might in it.
30:04
Speaker 2: I got the rail one the live too, but it's
30:08
Speaker 2: a smaller one though I didn't get the.
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Speaker 1: Small one that my guy books, the Beast too. He
30:12
Speaker 1: did Bodies but offset Jad. He's produced everything Kanye fucking
30:16
Speaker 1: these guy's, but he records everything on this tiny little Yeah,
30:20
Speaker 1: Chicago legend books.
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Speaker 2: Sim me that send that if you get the.
30:24
Speaker 1: Literally he's like yeah yeah, He's like, no, I don't
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Speaker 1: think you understand I any beat I play you no
30:29
Speaker 1: matter who it is. I bring in this little machine
30:32
Speaker 1: and we plugging in played off this machine.
30:34
Speaker 2: Man Simmony the Link. I might go buy this ship now.
30:36
Speaker 2: Because I'm tired of caring. My big is NBC. That
30:38
Speaker 2: nigga JD be caring around his NBC like it's a
30:40
Speaker 2: motherfucker cell phone.
30:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah man, in old school MP season.
30:44
Speaker 2: It's big man, I hate caring. Run that big box small.
30:47
Speaker 1: It's heavy for sure, but right with the new album
30:51
Speaker 1: is out, go get a kiss six uh and you
30:54
Speaker 1: got what twenty four more dates that you're performing tonight?
30:57
Speaker 1: L A region?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we had the region sold out. Shout to LA. Man.
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Speaker 1: What do you say like when you look at your
31:02
Speaker 1: back end on the streaming sites outside of Atlanta, what's
31:07
Speaker 1: like the most biggest city, the biggest and then what's
31:09
Speaker 1: your most surprised big market?
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Speaker 2: I feel like after Atlanta, it's like Chicago, Milwaukee, the
31:17
Speaker 2: whole Texas, LA up.
31:20
Speaker 1: There is there a place where you're like, yo, I
31:23
Speaker 1: can't believe I have this many fans out there.
31:25
Speaker 2: It beat them small ass markets, but I didn't beat
31:26
Speaker 2: up them market for so many years, so I ain't surprised.
31:28
Speaker 2: Like the damn Sioux Falls and ship like that and
31:31
Speaker 2: Lincoln's and shit like that. You know, Nebraska, you feel
31:34
Speaker 2: me like them type of markets. But when I was
31:36
Speaker 2: torn When I first started, Torn were doing the C
31:38
Speaker 2: and B markets, right, We did all C and B.
31:41
Speaker 2: Just that's like a presidential campaign. You know, when the
31:44
Speaker 2: motherfuckers trying to be president, they gonna do all the markets.
31:46
Speaker 2: And when it's time to come to the big ones,
31:48
Speaker 2: everybody gonna come to the big ones.
31:50
Speaker 1: There it is. Go out by yourself a concert ticket,
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Speaker 1: Appreciate your brother six right now, boom,